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2012-09-17 08:15:27 AM
Keeps teh childenz safe from those mean old xbox live 12 year olds on voice chat.
 
2012-09-17 08:16:47 AM
But I certainly anticipate that, as we're going deeper into the life of the Wii U and we're seeing more and more games from the first-party teams, we're going to start to see games that do have online play and things like that."

This guy is a visionary.
 
2012-09-17 08:17:16 AM
"I think for a while now our fans have considered the WiiU to be the chance for Nintendo to re-enter the console race and validate our saying that we want to appeal to the core gamers instead of casuals. We simply wanted to dispel those rumors."

/good luck selling Kerfuffle without online multiplayer
 
2012-09-17 08:20:02 AM
Meh. The last console game I played multiplayer was Gears of War 3 and that was for Horde mode with a few friends. And in fairness, everyone who plays on Live/PSN are total douche nozzles (John Gabriel's Greater Internet Dickwad Theory in Action) and matchmaking is shiat. Give me dedicated servers or give me death.
 
2012-09-17 08:24:18 AM

YodaBlues: Meh. The last console game I played multiplayer was Gears of War 3 and that was for Horde mode with a few friends. And in fairness, everyone who plays on Live/PSN are total douche nozzles (John Gabriel's Greater Internet Dickwad Theory in Action) and matchmaking is shiat. Give me dedicated servers or give me death.


You're going to have to come to the PC for that.
 
2012-09-17 08:24:45 AM
I hate everyone. The Wii-U's single player games will be more than enough to entertain me.
 
2012-09-17 08:27:17 AM
misleading headline is misleading. It is only the game NintendoLand that won't have online play....
 
2012-09-17 08:29:44 AM

thunderbird8804: YodaBlues: Meh. The last console game I played multiplayer was Gears of War 3 and that was for Horde mode with a few friends. And in fairness, everyone who plays on Live/PSN are total douche nozzles (John Gabriel's Greater Internet Dickwad Theory in Action) and matchmaking is shiat. Give me dedicated servers or give me death.

You're going to have to come to the PC for that.


Oh, I'm a Member of the Glorious PC Gaming Master Race, in fact it's my primary platform. :-D

I just farking hate matchmaking. Swear to god, you spend more time trying to get into in a game then you spend actually playing the game. Tried Gotham City Imposters on Steam when it went F2P, and it's not a bad game, but it has matchmaking and takes forever to get into a damn game. I don't want to spend friggin' 20 minutes trying to get into a game, I just want to play. 

/Look upon me with awe you dirty console gaming peasants!
 
2012-09-17 08:30:37 AM
I saw a display at a gamestop with what I assume were the launch titles. I can't remember all of them, but nothing stood out in the crowd.

Assassins Creed III - no need to buy a new console for that
Pikmin 3 - ok I guess
Tekken - still a bit surprised they were still making tekken games, but I don't keep up with fighting games
Scribblenaughts - I assume they're doing something more than just porting the ds version
Batman Arkham City - just in case you haven't played it yet I guess
FIFA - Again, this will probably be on every console, that is to say on a console people already own
Avengers - no screenshots on the box, no idea what that game will be like, probably another multi-console game

I wasn't impressed. I'm sure they have their regular exclusive Mario titles and the like, but for some reason they didn't have any advertisements for those. Maybe it was just that particular gamestop, but the release titles they had out there as an advertisement for the system were a huge miss. I wouldn't buy a new console for any of those games.

Combine that with huuuuge controllers that will probably be ultra expensive for people that want to play games with their friends and this no online thing... what's the main draw for wii u? Re-releases of Super Mario Bros. Wii with anti-aliasing?
 
2012-09-17 08:31:28 AM

YodaBlues: Meh. The last console game I played multiplayer was Gears of War 3 and that was for Horde mode with a few friends. And in fairness, everyone who plays on Live/PSN are total douche nozzles (John Gabriel's Greater Internet Dickwad Theory in Action) and matchmaking is shiat. Give me dedicated servers or give me death.


OK so you played a game featuring giant muscle bound men who engage in violence porn at minimum 5 times per minute and from the behavior of the young men who find that genre of game entertaining you determined that all console players are mouth breathers? Does this make sense to you?

Also why are dedicated servers necessary for horde mode? It's only 4 players at a time. Basically whats necessary for most of the games on consoles is a method for selecting the best possible host in any given game.

/I also enjoy Gears of War
//I just don't expect to have stimulating conversation with randoms when I play it
///then again I don't play with randoms
 
2012-09-17 08:35:25 AM

jbtilley: Combine that with huuuuge controllers that will probably be ultra expensive for people that want to play games with their friends and this no online thing... what's the main draw for wii u? Re-releases of Super Mario Bros. Wii with anti-aliasing?


IIRC there is only one huge controller and it comes with the console.
 
2012-09-17 08:39:26 AM

YodaBlues: thunderbird8804: YodaBlues: Meh. The last console game I played multiplayer was Gears of War 3 and that was for Horde mode with a few friends. And in fairness, everyone who plays on Live/PSN are total douche nozzles (John Gabriel's Greater Internet Dickwad Theory in Action) and matchmaking is shiat. Give me dedicated servers or give me death.

You're going to have to come to the PC for that.

Oh, I'm a Member of the Glorious PC Gaming Master Race, in fact it's my primary platform. :-D

I just farking hate matchmaking. Swear to god, you spend more time trying to get into in a game then you spend actually playing the game. Tried Gotham City Imposters on Steam when it went F2P, and it's not a bad game, but it has matchmaking and takes forever to get into a damn game. I don't want to spend friggin' 20 minutes trying to get into a game, I just want to play. 

/Look upon me with awe you dirty console gaming peasants!


Yeah, that P2P shiat is for the birds, can't stand it.

t1.gstatic.com

/For life
 
2012-09-17 08:40:03 AM

Egoy3k: YodaBlues: Meh. The last console game I played multiplayer was Gears of War 3 and that was for Horde mode with a few friends. And in fairness, everyone who plays on Live/PSN are total douche nozzles (John Gabriel's Greater Internet Dickwad Theory in Action) and matchmaking is shiat. Give me dedicated servers or give me death.

OK so you played a game featuring giant muscle bound men who engage in violence porn at minimum 5 times per minute and from the behavior of the young men who find that genre of game entertaining you determined that all console players are mouth breathers? Does this make sense to you?

Also why are dedicated servers necessary for horde mode? It's only 4 players at a time. Basically whats necessary for most of the games on consoles is a method for selecting the best possible host in any given game.

/I also enjoy Gears of War
//I just don't expect to have stimulating conversation with randoms when I play it
///then again I don't play with randoms


Wow champ, you kind went full retard there. From what I understand, you should never go full retard.

Let me highlight the important part of that sentence for you : The last console game I played multiplayer was Gears of War 3 and that was for Horde mode with a few friends.

I played Horde with friends, not pubs. I was speaking in generalities regarding the other game modes. Perhaps not clear, but I think anyone whose spent more than 5 minutes playing deathmatch or any versus-type game mode on Live can vouch for the vileness and retardation of the average user.

Never said dedicated servers were necessary for Horde either, I'm talking about other game modes like CTF or deathmatch or whatever. And I'm not just talking about GoW3, these are general complaints regarding console gaming and why I wouldn't care if the WiiU (or other consoles) didn't have multiplayer. Multiplayer (unless it's co-op) on consoles kind of sucks for a multitude of reasons (random assholes, matchmaking, etc ), so it wouldn't bother me to not have it.

Clear?
 
2012-09-17 08:43:23 AM

Egoy3k: IIRC there is only one huge controller and it comes with the console.


I'm sure it comes with one, but does player 2 need a huge controller as well? if so that's a separate, and likely expensive purchase.
 
2012-09-17 08:43:45 AM

Egoy3k: jbtilley: Combine that with huuuuge controllers that will probably be ultra expensive for people that want to play games with their friends and this no online thing... what's the main draw for wii u? Re-releases of Super Mario Bros. Wii with anti-aliasing?

IIRC there is only one huge controller and it comes with the console.


Yeah I think I read it could support 2 of those potentially, but I'm hoping more developers will be using the more traditional looking Wii U Pro controller. I'm all for trying new things, but the controller we've all been using for years has stuck around because it works.
 
2012-09-17 08:45:05 AM

jbtilley: Egoy3k: IIRC there is only one huge controller and it comes with the console.

I'm sure it comes with one, but does player 2 need a huge controller as well? if so that's a separate, and likely expensive purchase.


I believe only one of the big controllers is supported off the bat, other players use nunchuks/Wii controllers.
 
2012-09-17 08:54:36 AM
So nintendo's coming out with "Crap" as their next console. Gotcha.
 
2012-09-17 08:56:18 AM
Can't wait for part 2, where they take out multiplayer entirely for the old-school 'Take turns' approach and they try to spin that into a better experience.

Then after that they can just ship you an empty case because the 'possibilty of a game is the best part, so we wanted to prolong that after we have your money'.

Take the 'Network' icon off the case dude, quit trying to justify a lie.
 
2012-09-17 08:57:45 AM

YodaBlues: I believe only one of the big controllers is supported off the bat, other players use nunchuks/Wii controllers.


Really not trying to be dense/argumentative (it comes natural ;) but that begs the question... does player 1 get some kind of advantage over player 2 then, or is the controller with the screen a largely unused and unnecessary gimmick? Like where they shoehorned wii motion controls in games that didn't need it and how you could have easily lived without a second screen on most DS games.

With the dreamcast I remember you could choose football plays and take the insert with you to play some mini game or other with sonic games. I can see how it would be nice to have but not required in those contexts. I'm assuming that this new controller is going to be very similar.
 
2012-09-17 09:01:47 AM
i fully expect nintendo's first party games to be few and far-between in online support, maybe mario kart... *crosses fingers*

it's getting call of duty black ops 2 at launch, so surely the network is developed enough that games will have online play, i just doubt nintendo themselves (outside of western devs like retro) will care when making their games
 
2012-09-17 09:02:24 AM

jbtilley: YodaBlues: I believe only one of the big controllers is supported off the bat, other players use nunchuks/Wii controllers.

Really not trying to be dense/argumentative (it comes natural ;) but that begs the question... does player 1 get some kind of advantage over player 2 then, or is the controller with the screen a largely unused and unnecessary gimmick? Like where they shoehorned wii motion controls in games that didn't need it and how you could have easily lived without a second screen on most DS games.

With the dreamcast I remember you could choose football plays and take the insert with you to play some mini game or other with sonic games. I can see how it would be nice to have but not required in those contexts. I'm assuming that this new controller is going to be very similar.


Honestly not sure, I believe it's going to developer based, so it'll be different on a game by game basis. I haven't really been following the WiiU stuff that closely. The only game that caught my eye so far is ZombieU and I think that's single player.
 
2012-09-17 09:06:19 AM

YodaBlues: I believe only one of the big controllers is supported off the bat, other players use nunchuks/Wii controllers.


I thought the other players used the pro controllers, and that the remote/nunchuks were only for backwards-compatible Wii titles. Have I been misled? There's a different number of inputs on the tablets vs remote/nunchuk.
 
2012-09-17 09:10:23 AM
I sorta wish Nintendo was traded someplace I was familiar with. I'd love to get LEAPS on Nintendo stock, with the expectation that the company will be NOTHING within three years.
 
2012-09-17 09:10:28 AM

GavinTheAlmighty: YodaBlues: I believe only one of the big controllers is supported off the bat, other players use nunchuks/Wii controllers.

I thought the other players used the pro controllers, and that the remote/nunchuks were only for backwards-compatible Wii titles. Have I been misled? There's a different number of inputs on the tablets vs remote/nunchuk.


Maybe, I'm definitely not the person to ask. I've only read a few articles on it over at PA Report and I thought they said only 1 of the big controllers was really supported, but I'm probably way off, sorry.
 
2012-09-17 09:13:54 AM

YodaBlues: Maybe, I'm definitely not the person to ask. I've only read a few articles on it over at PA Report and I thought they said only 1 of the big controllers was really supported, but I'm probably way off, sorry.


There's been a lot of conflicting reports about whether or not two tablets are supported, but I'm more interested in knowing what player 2 will use if not a second tablet. Not that I'd rush out to buy a second tablet anyway.
 
2012-09-17 09:21:47 AM
Wow, that headline is 100% misleading. As someone posted above. The article talks about NINTENDO LAND being offline only. The Nintendo Network supports ONLINE PLAY . People need to stop spreading rumors. Also, you can use up to TWO Wii-U control pads, it's up to developers to choose what games support that feature. Due to the hit in performance (i.e, streaming video to two screens) I assume most multi-player games will use 1 control pad for one player and the rest wii controllers/pro pads etc. for local multi-player. If you think about that, then you can see how Nintendo is really going to push the online capabilities of their machine, since it's built more for online multi-player than offline.
 
2012-09-17 09:25:15 AM
"We look at online play and we think that it's important, and obviously for games where it makes sense, we're going to leverage it."

One game doesn't have online play. Subby, you suck.


Gavin/Yoda: Multiple gamepads (tablets) are supported by the hardware. As of yet, not by the software.

And from what I've read, Nintendo is looking to minimize that potential until well after launch. At which point the hardware price can come down to alevel where only 70% of people online will biatch about having to buy another one.
 
2012-09-17 09:25:46 AM
Also, here is a link to an article talking about games using two Gamepads (for some reason I thought the term was Control Pad earlier).

Link
 
2012-09-17 09:27:33 AM
I really want to hate this decision and be all pissed off about it, but I just can't.

Buddy convinced me to go buy Battlefield 3 the other day, got it and a nice Turtle Beach headset, whole nine yards. We jumped into a game and of course I was getting my ass handed to me, but it transcended that. If I was just losing but still getting some kills, that'd be one thing; that was pretty much the whole Modern Warfare experience for me. But this was another level. There'd be 4 or 5 of us trying to hold some position, and dudes would just come running in, jump over the barricade, drop straight to the prone position, and circle-strafe, killing every one of us before we had time to even turn around and aim. There was some beach-storming map where a sniper on the deck of a battleship had the entire map on lock-down; you'd spawn, run over the crest of a hill trying to get to the objective you needed to defend, and *pop* oh look there are my brains. And don't even get me started about the helicopters.

And about 5 minutes before I put my controller through my plasma, it finally occurred to me: I can't game like this anymore. I don't have the 5 hours a night it takes to get that good at an online game. Hell I don't have 5 hours a month to devote to it. If I even tried to play this game seriously one night a week I'd feel guilty about it, because either something around the house wasn't getting done or I was ignoring my family. So why do I want to put myself through this meat grinder if there's not going to be a payoff at the end?
 
2012-09-17 09:30:10 AM

sidcart42:
Gavin/Yoda: Multiple gamepads (tablets) are supported by the hardware. As of yet, not by the software.

And from what I've read, Nintendo is looking to minimize that potential until well after launch. At which point the hardware price can come down to alevel where only 70% of people online will biatch about having to buy another one.


Ahh, cool, good to know. Like I said previously, I'm only marginally interested in the WiiU anyway, that ZombieU game looks pretty sweet, but nothing else really does anything for me.
 
2012-09-17 09:35:33 AM
Since I met someone and have actually been playing with boobies, I think I'll skip this generation. Have fun.
 
2012-09-17 09:48:07 AM
Subby, that's not what TFA says at all. It says that Nintendo Land won't have online play. It's already been confirmed that Wii U will have online play, using a streamlined version of the Wii's system (yes, that means Friend Codes, but Nintendo swears to Aquabuddha they'll be easier to use this time around).
 
2012-09-17 09:49:35 AM

sidcart42: Gavin/Yoda: Multiple gamepads (tablets) are supported by the hardware. As of yet, not by the software.

And from what I've read, Nintendo is looking to minimize that potential until well after launch. At which point the hardware price can come down to alevel where only 70% of people online will biatch about having to buy another one.


Check, thanks for the clarity. Much appreciated!
 
2012-09-17 09:50:54 AM

jayhawk88: So why do I want to put myself through this meat grinder if there's not going to be a payoff at the end?


I reached pretty much the same decision. But I was one of those assholes who had shiat on lockdown. And after a few months of that I realized, well, jeez. What's the point? It's fun yeah but there's no payoff unless I want to put in 12 hours a day to get as good as the REALLY good assholes who go to competitions. And chicks are only slightly impressed when they see you killing everyone. Some chicks hate you more for it cause "omg that's sooo violent!". And the ones who are into the killing are not the competitive-type. I had a gamer lady who was interested in me but then got SUPER pissed because she didn't like that I was better than her at the game. No farking point.
 
2012-09-17 09:53:34 AM
Something I think we can all agree on as of midnight tonight is that no one gives a shiat about Nintendo anyhow because it doesn't support Borderlands II.
 
2012-09-17 09:54:31 AM

sirgrim: Since I met someone and have actually been playing with boobies, I think I'll skip this generation. Have fun.


You came in to this thread to pull the "Look guys, I HAVE A GIRLFRIEND WITH BOOBS AND EVERYTHING". Think about that.
 
2012-09-17 10:04:05 AM
I am tempted to purchase a Wii U console at or near launch only because the likelihood of being able to modify the console for homebrew purposes decreases with newer revisions of the hardware and the firmware.
 
2012-09-17 10:06:01 AM
 
2012-09-17 10:06:11 AM
I see the "you can only be competent at a video game if you invest 25 hours a week in it" fallacy is in full force in this thread.
 
2012-09-17 10:09:22 AM
This system is gonna sell like haggis in Paris.
 
2012-09-17 10:10:58 AM

Jim_Callahan: Something I think we can all agree on as of midnight tonight is that no one gives a shiat about Nintendo anyhow because it doesn't support Borderlands II.


Is it better than the first? Original always sort of bored me.

/just put Dark Souls back in this weekend...holy sh*t the griefing community has gotten out of hand in this game...
 
2012-09-17 10:13:04 AM

Mike_LowELL: I see the "you can only be competent at a video game if you invest 25 hours a week in it" fallacy is in full force in this thread.


Well you know we aren't all born with natural video game skills and an 11 inch cock *eyeroll*
 
2012-09-17 10:17:05 AM
I hope this thing bombs horribly, for the simple reason I want nintendo to become a software company. I'm not buying their crappy systems for the handful of games I want to play.
 
2012-09-17 10:18:24 AM

Dimensio: modify the console for homebrew purposes


I never got in to homebrew. Are there really developers writing games for an audience that small, as opposed to writing for the PC they need to write the game?

I mean, I can understand wanting to write homebrew for the DS or iphone, but for a console?
 
2012-09-17 10:18:36 AM
You could write for Fox News, subtard
 
2012-09-17 10:23:47 AM

loser0: Dimensio: modify the console for homebrew purposes

I never got in to homebrew. Are there really developers writing games for an audience that small, as opposed to writing for the PC they need to write the game?

I mean, I can understand wanting to write homebrew for the DS or iphone, but for a console?


I employ "homebrew" applications for running old console emulators (because I refuse to re-purchase already owned games on the "Virtual Console"), SCUMMVM and USB Loader GX (used because running games off of hard drive rather than the original disc nearly entirely eliminates load times). I have not investigated other uses, though an extensive list is available.
 
2012-09-17 10:29:32 AM
The insecurities in this thread are amazing.
 
2012-09-17 10:33:27 AM
I hope it comes with a free cat.
 
2012-09-17 11:08:35 AM

wyltoknow: jayhawk88: So why do I want to put myself through this meat grinder if there's not going to be a payoff at the end?

I reached pretty much the same decision. But I was one of those assholes who had shiat on lockdown. And after a few months of that I realized, well, jeez. What's the point? It's fun yeah but there's no payoff unless I want to put in 12 hours a day to get as good as the REALLY good assholes who go to competitions. And chicks are only slightly impressed when they see you killing everyone. Some chicks hate you more for it cause "omg that's sooo violent!". And the ones who are into the killing are not the competitive-type. I had a gamer lady who was interested in me but then got SUPER pissed because she didn't like that I was better than her at the game. No farking point.


I have the opposite problem, I hate playing BF BC2 with my girlfriend cause she always mops the floor in online and when we play lol
 
2012-09-17 11:18:53 AM

moistD: misleading headline is misleading. It is only the game NintendoLand that won't have online play....


Yeah, really. I came here to unleash some serious rage on the headline. No way Nintendo is insane enough to not have any online multiplayer for a new console in 2012.
 
2012-09-17 11:21:02 AM

SacriliciousBeerSwiller: This system is gonna sell like haggis in Paris.


Depends how many of the casual gamers who own a Wii decide to upgrade. If they don't get that market, or those people decide their old Wii is good enough, then Nintendo can't depend on the hardcore gamer market, so it'll just be Nintendo fanboys who buy one. If the casual gamer market DOES decide to upgrade, then Nintendo will make a mint again. That partially depends on what games come out with launch and whether they get the same word of mouth that the Wii Sports did when the original Wii launched.
 
2012-09-17 11:23:27 AM

Tommy Moo: Yeah, really. I came here to unleash some serious rage on the headline. No way Nintendo is insane enough to not have any online multiplayer for a new console in 2012.


But do they have a consistent API for the developers to access that provides a nice interface, matching, friends list, etc... or will each game implement those features themselves in different ways like the last Wii largely did? From this interview it doesn't sound like they have that type of API in place.
 
2012-09-17 11:27:36 AM

SacriliciousBeerSwiller: Jim_Callahan: Something I think we can all agree on as of midnight tonight is that no one gives a shiat about Nintendo anyhow because it doesn't support Borderlands II.

Is it better than the first? Original always sort of bored me.

/just put Dark Souls back in this weekend...holy sh*t the griefing community has gotten out of hand in this game...


It hasn't been released yet.

But the borderlands games are designed to play with someone that's literally sitting on the couch next to you, and it's more fun than the nintendo titles that do the same, with the exception of maybe Smash brothers.

Not really talking about single-player titles here, which ultimately Dark Souls is despite the teleport into random games mechanic. Not that there's anything wrong with said mechanic, it's just not the same thing. My point was more that there are xBox/PS/PC titles that take on Nintendo in its one unique area of expertise and do it better, so there's no real reason to care anymore unless you just really love flash games where your character wears a red hat.
 
2012-09-17 11:36:43 AM

miscreant: Tommy Moo: Yeah, really. I came here to unleash some serious rage on the headline. No way Nintendo is insane enough to not have any online multiplayer for a new console in 2012.

But do they have a consistent API for the developers to access that provides a nice interface, matching, friends list, etc... or will each game implement those features themselves in different ways like the last Wii largely did? From this interview it doesn't sound like they have that type of API in place.


From this interview none of that was touched upon. The entire article is about one game. The last I heard Nintendo was outsourcing its online API to a 3rd party company, they didn't want to build the interface, only host it (and dictate rules). There were wild rumors that it would be Steam or Origin for a while. Still haven't been told who developed their online arena.
 
2012-09-17 11:41:48 AM

GavinTheAlmighty: I hate everyone. The Wii-U's single player games will be more than enough to entertain me.


I know that I was annoyed with various DS games, such as the Final Fantasy remakes and the Zelda games, that expected you to use the online feature to get goodies. Let me play my single player game in peace and not have to remind myself I'm playing a game for children.
 
2012-09-17 11:46:39 AM

miscreant: SacriliciousBeerSwiller: This system is gonna sell like haggis in Paris.

Depends how many of the casual gamers who own a Wii decide to upgrade. If they don't get that market, or those people decide their old Wii is good enough, then Nintendo can't depend on the hardcore gamer market, so it'll just be Nintendo fanboys who buy one. If the casual gamer market DOES decide to upgrade, then Nintendo will make a mint again. That partially depends on what games come out with launch and whether they get the same word of mouth that the Wii Sports did when the original Wii launched.


normally i'd agree with this binary approach any other gen but honestly this gen has been extremely cannibalized by the digital market and mobile devices as well as undervalued software prices and the move away from $60 games, people are more openly looking for other avenues to be entertained by video games and nobody's safe anymore - as such there's no guaranteed model for the hardware makers to fall back on

i wouldn't be surprised if all 3 console makers sell half the numbers they sold previously
 
2012-09-17 11:51:05 AM

jbtilley: YodaBlues: I believe only one of the big controllers is supported off the bat, other players use nunchuks/Wii controllers.

Really not trying to be dense/argumentative (it comes natural ;) but that begs the question... does player 1 get some kind of advantage over player 2 then, or is the controller with the screen a largely unused and unnecessary gimmick? Like where they shoehorned wii motion controls in games that didn't need it and how you could have easily lived without a second screen on most DS games.

With the dreamcast I remember you could choose football plays and take the insert with you to play some mini game or other with sonic games. I can see how it would be nice to have but not required in those contexts. I'm assuming that this new controller is going to be very similar.


Or even worse, games like the Castlevania that made you switch to the stylus in the middle of action to beat a boss.
 
2012-09-17 12:15:33 PM
Ah, so they want to go bankrupt.

Nice.
 
2012-09-17 12:23:52 PM
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Hi. I'm the Wii U Pro Controller. I can be used with most/all Wii U games so all you gamers don't have to use that scary tablet controller. And would you look at that, I look very familiar to that 360 controller the whole world is in love with. I'm also a spitting image of the Wii Classic Controller. Both are just variations of the Gamecube controller, the greatest controller ever made. You can use me in online gameplay with Ninja Gaiden 3: Razor's Edge (which has 8-player online deathmatch), Black Ops 2, Madden 13, Fifa 13, Aliens Colonial Marines, Sonic & All-Star Racing Transformer, Assassins Creed 3 and the sure to be terrible Marvel's Avengers Battle For Earth.

So fear not you bag of pussies, you can play with me instead of the Wii U Tablet controller, because what is gaming but a hobby where you never leave your comfort zone.
 
2012-09-17 12:28:25 PM

Egoy3k: jbtilley: Combine that with huuuuge controllers that will probably be ultra expensive for people that want to play games with their friends and this no online thing... what's the main draw for wii u? Re-releases of Super Mario Bros. Wii with anti-aliasing?

IIRC there is only one huge controller and it comes with the console.


It will support two "gamepad" controllers, though none of the launch titles support it. More than likely you'll have your friend bring over their gamepad rather than have two gamepads yourself.
http://www.gamezone.com/products/wii-u/news/wii-u-dual-gamepad-functi o nality-coming-next-year-says-nintendo
 
2012-09-17 12:55:43 PM
That wiiU controller reminds me of those knock-off Xbox controllers I always bought when I was younger. (Used to have a throwing-the-controller problem) This news definitely makes me think that I shouldn't waste my money on the WiiU, online play is essential, I cannot believe Nintendo doesn't see this.
 
2012-09-17 01:05:10 PM

lobtraun: That wiiU controller reminds me of those knock-off Xbox controllers I always bought when I was younger. (Used to have a throwing-the-controller problem) This news definitely makes me think that I shouldn't waste my money on the WiiU, online play is essential, I cannot believe Nintendo doesn't see this.


You can't believe it?

They didn't see it as essential with the last two generations of consoles...
 
2012-09-17 01:05:45 PM

lobtraun: That wiiU controller reminds me of those knock-off Xbox controllers I always bought when I was younger. (Used to have a throwing-the-controller problem) This news definitely makes me think that I shouldn't waste my money on the WiiU, online play is essential, I cannot believe Nintendo doesn't see this.


As pointed out above THE SYSTEM HAS ONLINE PLAY. The headline is misleading. Only the Nintendo Land mini-games deal using Miiverse will not have online play.
 
2012-09-17 01:08:14 PM
Also - here's one feature the WiiU has that Xbox and PS3 are sorely missing:

You can plug in an external USB hard drive of your choice for extra storage
 
2012-09-17 01:09:24 PM
I'm interested to see how Mini-ITX components and Windows 8 come together to work in living rooms. That's gonna be good.
 
2012-09-17 01:35:45 PM

fluffy2097: Keeps teh childenz safe from those mean old xbox live 12 year olds on voice chat.


Actually, that's a damn good reason.

fark those kids and the parents who buy them shiat.
 
2012-09-17 01:40:56 PM

Rising_Zan_Samurai_Gunman: Also - here's one feature the WiiU has that Xbox and PS3 are sorely missing:

You can plug in an external USB hard drive of your choice for extra storage


But you can do that. Though external HDDs are finicky and need a specific configuration to work with the PS3 (not sure about 360 in that regard).

They still haven't indicated if you can store full Wii-U games (not just eshop titles - but even then, is Reggie talking about basic media, or does he also mean eshop titles such as Gamecube games?) on external drives.
 
2012-09-17 01:48:25 PM

taxandspend: Hi. I'm the Wii U Pro Controller. I can be used with most/all Wii U games so all you gamers don't have to use that scary tablet controller. And would you look at that, I look very familiar to that 360 controller the whole world is in love with. I'm also a spitting image of the Wii Classic Controller. Both are just variations of the Gamecube controller, the greatest controller ever made.


I was with you until there...
 
2012-09-17 01:51:06 PM
Reading comprehension FAIL, subby. Fark U.
 
2012-09-17 02:06:17 PM

tomcatadam: Rising_Zan_Samurai_Gunman: Also - here's one feature the WiiU has that Xbox and PS3 are sorely missing:

You can plug in an external USB hard drive of your choice for extra storage

But you can do that. Though external HDDs are finicky and need a specific configuration to work with the PS3 (not sure about 360 in that regard).


Support for external USB devices is somewhat limited with the XBox 360.

Replacing the internal Playstation 3 hard drive is arguably a more reliable solution than is use of an external drive.
 
2012-09-17 02:18:17 PM

MindStalker: Egoy3k: jbtilley: Combine that with huuuuge controllers that will probably be ultra expensive for people that want to play games with their friends and this no online thing... what's the main draw for wii u? Re-releases of Super Mario Bros. Wii with anti-aliasing?

IIRC there is only one huge controller and it comes with the console.

It will support two "gamepad" controllers, though none of the launch titles support it. More than likely you'll have your friend bring over their gamepad rather than have two gamepads yourself.
http://www.gamezone.com/products/wii-u/news/wii-u-dual-gamepad-functi o nality-coming-next-year-says-nintendo


IIRC, they plan to release separate tablet controllers when they have games ready to take advantage of two, and may even pack a game in with them (similar to the Wii Play, Wii Sports Resort, and FlingSmash bundles on Wii).
 
2012-09-17 02:22:08 PM

tomcatadam: Rising_Zan_Samurai_Gunman: Also - here's one feature the WiiU has that Xbox and PS3 are sorely missing:

You can plug in an external USB hard drive of your choice for extra storage

But you can do that. Though external HDDs are finicky and need a specific configuration to work with the PS3 (not sure about 360 in that regard).


You can do that on the 360 as well, but you have to format the entire drive first and it's limited to 10GB (you can still use the rest of the drive for regular storage after setting it up).
 
2012-09-17 02:22:09 PM
Whatever, Borderlands 2 drops at midnight. See the rest of you Farkers in a week or two.
 
2012-09-17 02:28:11 PM

SacriliciousBeerSwiller: taxandspend: Hi. I'm the Wii U Pro Controller. I can be used with most/all Wii U games so all you gamers don't have to use that scary tablet controller. And would you look at that, I look very familiar to that 360 controller the whole world is in love with. I'm also a spitting image of the Wii Classic Controller. Both are just variations of the Gamecube controller, the greatest controller ever made.

I was with you until there...


True. He should have said SNES controller.
 
2012-09-17 02:31:23 PM
When did lego go all GTA on us?
 
2012-09-17 02:45:53 PM

HeartBurnKid: SacriliciousBeerSwiller: taxandspend: Hi. I'm the Wii U Pro Controller. I can be used with most/all Wii U games so all you gamers don't have to use that scary tablet controller. And would you look at that, I look very familiar to that 360 controller the whole world is in love with. I'm also a spitting image of the Wii Classic Controller. Both are just variations of the Gamecube controller, the greatest controller ever made.

I was with you until there...

True. He should have said SNES controller.


I preferred the N64 controller, but only because I have a prehensile cock.
 
2012-09-17 02:57:01 PM

YodaBlues: Meh. The last console game I played multiplayer was Gears of War 3 and that was for Horde mode with a few friends. And in fairness, everyone who plays on Live/PSN are total douche nozzles (John Gabriel's Greater Internet Dickwad Theory in Action) and matchmaking is shiat. Give me dedicated servers or give me death.


It's really not everyone. Having played a ton of Super Street Fighter IV, Mortal Kombat, Assassin's Creed 2: Brotherhood & Revelations, and Mass Effect 3, I can tell you that's just plain not true. I think I've only ever had 3 negative messages sent my way (one of which was HILARIOUS in that it hoped Hitler came back from the dead and killed my Jew mother). That and one unintelligible voice message that could've gone either way...
That said, anecdotal evidence, and a lack of interest, keeps me from playing shooters online for the very reason you mention, so maybe it's more concentrated in that genre.
 
2012-09-17 03:02:45 PM

Marine1: I'm interested to see how Mini-ITX components and Windows 8 come together to work in living rooms. That's gonna be good.


I've just priced up a Mini-ITX system. Core i3, Blu-Ray, 4GB Ram. 120GB SSD. Cost? Around £400.

This console will be around £225 in the UK.

Nearly double the price might sound like a lot, but I'll get blu-ray playback, be able to store legal/illegally downloaded movies, play games from Steam, often at pocket money prices. And it'll last for years because I'll be able to upgrade it, and PC gaming is going nowhere.
 
2012-09-17 03:12:10 PM

HeartBurnKid: SacriliciousBeerSwiller: taxandspend: Hi. I'm the Wii U Pro Controller. I can be used with most/all Wii U games so all you gamers don't have to use that scary tablet controller. And would you look at that, I look very familiar to that 360 controller the whole world is in love with. I'm also a spitting image of the Wii Classic Controller. Both are just variations of the Gamecube controller, the greatest controller ever made.

I was with you until there...

True. He should have said SNES controller.


Yep. To me the lineage goes SNES -> PS -> Xbox. Everything else is 90% modeled from one of those.
 
2012-09-17 03:15:57 PM

Empty Matchbook: YodaBlues: Meh. The last console game I played multiplayer was Gears of War 3 and that was for Horde mode with a few friends. And in fairness, everyone who plays on Live/PSN are total douche nozzles (John Gabriel's Greater Internet Dickwad Theory in Action) and matchmaking is shiat. Give me dedicated servers or give me death.

It's really not everyone. Having played a ton of Super Street Fighter IV, Mortal Kombat, Assassin's Creed 2: Brotherhood & Revelations, and Mass Effect 3, I can tell you that's just plain not true. I think I've only ever had 3 negative messages sent my way (one of which was HILARIOUS in that it hoped Hitler came back from the dead and killed my Jew mother). That and one unintelligible voice message that could've gone either way...
That said, anecdotal evidence, and a lack of interest, keeps me from playing shooters online for the very reason you mention, so maybe it's more concentrated in that genre.


Yeah, it's DEFINITELY more in the shooter games, which are the only ones I've admittedly tried one 360/PS3. And it's not just messages, it's the voice chat which is usually full of the most vile, racists, retarded language in the history of man. PC can get it too, but it's never as bad, and even if it is. most games allow you to just disallow voice comm right in the options menu instead of requiring you to manually mute every single player.

Obviously, everyone's experience will be different, but for me, this is pretty much how it's always been whenever I've tried multiplayer.
 
2012-09-17 03:28:35 PM
All I have to say is this: whenever Sony comes out with the PS4, I hope they market it well.

/PS3 and Vita are superior devices to every other console/handheld
//and yet they managed to drive them both straight into the ground
 
2012-09-17 03:58:23 PM

miscreant: Tommy Moo: Yeah, really. I came here to unleash some serious rage on the headline. No way Nintendo is insane enough to not have any online multiplayer for a new console in 2012.

But do they have a consistent API for the developers to access that provides a nice interface, matching, friends list, etc... or will each game implement those features themselves in different ways like the last Wii largely did? From this interview it doesn't sound like they have that type of API in place.


fast1.onesite.com

Christian Svensson, Sr. Vice President at Capcom, discussing online play for Monster Hunter 3 Ultimate: "For Wii U we're using Nintendo's servers (which I'm very happy about) and I'm not sure how they're set up. Candidly, we're still waiting for Wii U builds in our office to play with and there's still many moving parts that no one except for the team members has first hand experience with at this point."
 
2012-09-17 04:12:45 PM

YodaBlues: Empty Matchbook: YodaBlues:
Yeah, it's DEFINITELY more in the shooter games, which are the only ones I've admittedly tried on 360/PS3.


There's everyone's problem right there.

Shooters on consoles? I'm gonna go over here and laugh for a while.
 
2012-09-17 05:12:32 PM
I hope they monitor the online play and get rid of the cheaters and their pathetic hacks.

/still kicks their cheating arses in Mario Kart
 
2012-09-17 05:37:44 PM

YodaBlues: Empty Matchbook: YodaBlues: Meh. The last console game I played multiplayer was Gears of War 3 and that was for Horde mode with a few friends. And in fairness, everyone who plays on Live/PSN are total douche nozzles (John Gabriel's Greater Internet Dickwad Theory in Action) and matchmaking is shiat. Give me dedicated servers or give me death.

It's really not everyone. Having played a ton of Super Street Fighter IV, Mortal Kombat, Assassin's Creed 2: Brotherhood & Revelations, and Mass Effect 3, I can tell you that's just plain not true. I think I've only ever had 3 negative messages sent my way (one of which was HILARIOUS in that it hoped Hitler came back from the dead and killed my Jew mother). That and one unintelligible voice message that could've gone either way...
That said, anecdotal evidence, and a lack of interest, keeps me from playing shooters online for the very reason you mention, so maybe it's more concentrated in that genre.

Yeah, it's DEFINITELY more in the shooter games, which are the only ones I've admittedly tried one 360/PS3. And it's not just messages, it's the voice chat which is usually full of the most vile, racists, retarded language in the history of man. PC can get it too, but it's never as bad, and even if it is. most games allow you to just disallow voice comm right in the options menu instead of requiring you to manually mute every single player.

Obviously, everyone's experience will be different, but for me, this is pretty much how it's always been whenever I've tried multiplayer.


Yeah, something like Assassin's Creed, which actually prizes stealth (opponents can hear you if you're talking into your mic and your character is close to them) is PERFECT because the morons shouting into their headsets are just CONSTANTLY getting stabbed and/or evaded, but I just turn off the mic altogether in the system settings. The only things it locks me out of are games I wouldn't play anyway.
 
2012-09-17 05:43:07 PM

jbtilley: YodaBlues: I believe only one of the big controllers is supported off the bat, other players use nunchuks/Wii controllers.

Really not trying to be dense/argumentative (it comes natural ;) but that begs the question... does player 1 get some kind of advantage over player 2 then, or is the controller with the screen a largely unused and unnecessary gimmick? Like where they shoehorned wii motion controls in games that didn't need it and how you could have easily lived without a second screen on most DS games.

With the dreamcast I remember you could choose football plays and take the insert with you to play some mini game or other with sonic games. I can see how it would be nice to have but not required in those contexts. I'm assuming that this new controller is going to be very similar.


My dreamcast memory cards died before i ever had a chance to play a mini game.

I like mario and such, and i thought with the nunchuck theyd found a balance and come back to sane controllers. Evidentally not. I dont want a miniscreen.
Do not want.
 
2012-09-17 05:45:21 PM

taxandspend: [www.blogcdn.com image 530x300]

Hi. I'm the Wii U Pro Controller. [...]


Wow. I thought "Someone went through a lot of Photoshopping effort for a lame joke." Just to be sure, I Googled "WiiU Pro Controller".

Wow.
 
2012-09-17 05:58:57 PM
HOLY POOR READING COMPREHENSION BATMAN.

Wii U Network is online. The article is about the game NIntendo Land. One first party game doesn't have online mode. HOLY shiat. Wow.
 
2012-09-17 05:59:51 PM

torusXL: YodaBlues: Empty Matchbook: YodaBlues:
Yeah, it's DEFINITELY more in the shooter games, which are the only ones I've admittedly tried on 360/PS3.

There's everyone's problem right there.

Shooters on consoles? I'm gonna go over here and laugh for a while.


Because they're never successful, right?
 
2012-09-17 06:52:39 PM

moistD: misleading headline is misleading. It is only the game NintendoLand that won't have online play....

 
2012-09-17 06:56:06 PM
Nice to see Nintendo is still as out of touch with modern gaming as they were with the Wii. Too bad it won't make a difference in all the money they printed.
 
2012-09-17 06:57:48 PM

torusXL: YodaBlues: Empty Matchbook: YodaBlues:
Yeah, it's DEFINITELY more in the shooter games, which are the only ones I've admittedly tried on 360/PS3.

There's everyone's problem right there.

Shooters on consoles? I'm gonna go over here and laugh for a while.


You need to get out more, you may have heard of things like the Halo series, Call of Duty series, Battlefield series, stuff like that if you did.
 
2012-09-17 08:12:18 PM

Nezu Chiza: torusXL: YodaBlues: Empty Matchbook: YodaBlues:
Yeah, it's DEFINITELY more in the shooter games, which are the only ones I've admittedly tried on 360/PS3.

There's everyone's problem right there.

Shooters on consoles? I'm gonna go over here and laugh for a while.

You need to get out more, you may have heard of things like the Halo series, Call of Duty series, Battlefield series, stuff like that if you did.


you don't say
 
2012-09-17 10:29:45 PM

LindenFark: Wow. I thought "Someone went through a lot of Photoshopping effort for a lame joke." Just to be sure, I Googled "WiiU Pro Controller".

Wow.


Honestly, I'm happy about that. The best thing about the Xbox 360 was the fantastic controller, so implementing something strongly similar on another system that I enjoy? FANTASTIC.
 
2012-09-17 10:37:22 PM
Hard core gamers already have their PS360s, and seeing how this appears to be in the current gen hardware class, will see no need to buy one.

Casual gamers will see how the motion controls are taking a backseat to the standard control scheme of multiple buttons, triggers, and control sticks and will see no need to buy one.

/the next several years are not going to be fun for Nintendo...
 
2012-09-18 01:25:48 AM

Electrify: Hard core gamers already have their PS360s, and seeing how this appears to be in the current gen hardware class, will see no need to buy one.

Casual gamers will see how the motion controls are taking a backseat to the standard control scheme of multiple buttons, triggers, and control sticks and will see no need to buy one.

/the next several years are not going to be fun for Nintendo...


Maybe they plan to make a lot of Zelda games. And some great pokeymons and mario bros. People like that stuff. I hope they make a few donkey kongs, I'm sure they'll sell good.
 
2012-09-18 02:04:45 AM

Fano: Electrify: Hard core gamers already have their PS360s, and seeing how this appears to be in the current gen hardware class, will see no need to buy one.

Casual gamers will see how the motion controls are taking a backseat to the standard control scheme of multiple buttons, triggers, and control sticks and will see no need to buy one.

/the next several years are not going to be fun for Nintendo...

Maybe they plan to make a lot of Zelda games. And some great pokeymons and mario bros. People like that stuff. I hope they make a few donkey kongs, I'm sure they'll sell good.


Say what you want, but their zeldas are all fun, and mario galaxy one and two were phenomenal.
 
2012-09-18 02:22:13 AM

Rising_Zan_Samurai_Gunman: Also - here's one feature the WiiU has that Xbox and PS3 are sorely missing:

You can plug in an external USB hard drive of your choice for extra storage


I just favorited you based on your name. Badass game.
 
2012-09-18 02:47:25 AM

SacriliciousBeerSwiller: taxandspend: Hi. I'm the Wii U Pro Controller. I can be used with most/all Wii U games so all you gamers don't have to use that scary tablet controller. And would you look at that, I look very familiar to that 360 controller the whole world is in love with. I'm also a spitting image of the Wii Classic Controller. Both are just variations of the Gamecube controller, the greatest controller ever made.

I was with you until there...


Well, he isn't wrong. The only thing for what GameCube Controller wasn't good was fighting games. It was absolutely great for everything else. Perfect control for immersion. Play Metroid Prime on the GCN and tell me it'd feel the same with another controller. It has so many intuitive quirks.

A stick, a pad, a c-stick with programmable functions, a big green button that works as the primary input and in both size and color represents approval/action, a smaller red one that in both size and color represents rejection/cancel, two satellite grey buttons surrounding the big green one for side menus/options related to the main one, the shoulder triggers which were analog and had yet another function when you reached maximum pressing by revealing an inside secret button for each trigger (with different functions) and the absolute wild card that is the z-button in both placement and function.

That controller is a engineering marvel of ergonomics and intuitiveness.

And this is coming from the company that invented the layout for the modern controller with the SNES, which has been copied ad nauseaum by the rival companies.

While other companies invest like zero resources in controller innovation (looking at you, Sony), every single Nintendo console has featured a different controller. And each time the controller has become the standard.

1.- NES introduced the joypad and the two button configuration. In a world where "videogames = joystick". (BTW, the joypad was an invention of Gunpei Yokoi for the classic Nintendo Game&Watch electronic games. Which in turn were both the inspiration for the NES controller and decades later, for the Nintendo DS). This was adopted by Sega with the Master System, Atari with the Lynx and TurboGrafx.

2.- After Sega played "hardball" by adding a third action button for their systems with the Genesis (overall, it still had the same amount of buttons as the Nes since Genesis didn't have the "select" button :P) Nintendo DOUBLED their input and came with something that was almost unthinkable at the time: SIX BUTTONS! The layout went to be copied by Sega later on who added 3 more buttons to the Genesis (although they preferred to mirror Capcom's arcade layout since Street Fighter was the biggest thing ever back then), the 3DO, the Dreamcast, the Sony Playstation1/2/3, the Xbox/360, etc.

3,- With the N64 came yet another controller, this one went over the top with the buttons lol, had 9, including the most important features: both an analog stick and an analog button (z-trigger). Afterwards, Sony came out with an updated PS1 pad with analog sticks, Sega came out with a special Saturn pad with an analog stick, and controllers of the next generation portrayed both analog sticks as well as analog buttons/triggers (Dreamcast, PS2, GameCube, etc).

4.- The GameCube had a great controller, but sadly it didn't become a standard. But not because the controller wasn't quality. It was. But because Microsoft and Sony decided to keep being lazy and keep the same controller for the next generation. Until...

5.- Nintendo came up with the Wii and it's motion control. Ta-da! Microsoft and Sony scramble and start offering these features a couple of years later.
 
2012-09-18 03:00:05 AM
I'm with you Rocky, but I hated the N64's stick. Or maybe it was less the stick and more the way mario 64 expected you to do really fine movements in which the tiniest little flick from forward to stop and then an infinitesimal bit backwards made mario go WAHOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOO super flip jump surprise while the camera constantly swung ensuring that you couldn't merely hold one direction to keep going that direction and all you farking want to do is get that last coin on the clock level.

I especially like your timetable. People have loved shiatting all over the nintendo for everything its done since the wii came out. Yea, its hardware IS behind the others, but they went out of their way to make motion control too. The biggest wii flaw was game lack and the nunchuck should have been a thing at launch. It seems nintendo isn't making the overly-forced motion control mistake with the new system, and I've seen mixed claims on whether its hardware is good or not.
 
2012-09-18 04:31:53 AM
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2012-09-18 08:16:40 AM

Optimal_Illusion: [25.media.tumblr.com image 850x356]


Have you seen Wimp Lo anywhere?
 
2012-09-18 01:03:41 PM
it would have to be priced right and have a Legend of Zelda title for us to even consider buying one. everything else is kind of secondary.
 
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