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2012-09-17 12:32:54 AM
I wonder if the Humane Society would agree
 
2012-09-17 12:44:28 AM
Romney's campaign is saying that Stuart Stevens isn't going anywhere, but I would wager that there will be a big chorus of deep pockets giving Romney a ring tomorrow and telling him that if he wants any more money, Stevens has to go.
I would also guess that the reason they are not wanting to dump him is because of fear of what he will say once he's let go.
 
2012-09-17 12:56:12 AM

Hollie Maea: Romney's campaign is saying that Stuart Stevens isn't going anywhere, but I would wager that there will be a big chorus of deep pockets giving Romney a ring tomorrow and telling him that if he wants any more money, Stevens has to go.
I would also guess that the reason they are not wanting to dump him is because of fear of what he will say once he's let go.


Yeah, ask Richard Grenell how loyal Mitt is when the guys with the money want someone gone.
 
2012-09-17 12:59:48 AM

propasaurus: Yeah, ask Richard Grenell how loyal Mitt is when the guys with the money want someone gone.


Exactly. Also, Richard Grenell wasn't around long enough to learn anything embarrassing that he could chat about with the press, so he was safe to sacrifice.
 
2012-09-17 02:51:51 AM
So. . .there'll be dog fighting on car roofs now?
 
2012-09-17 02:53:00 AM
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2012-09-17 02:56:34 AM
So the same guy who cut Afghanistan out of Mitt's speech also was the push behind Clint's unvetted weirdness?

The same guy who previously compared Mitt to Micheal Vick without even a hint of awareness of how dumb that was?

And Mitt still isn't gonna fire him?

Well, um okay then. Carry on!
 
2012-09-17 02:57:27 AM
That is an...unfortunate comparison. One that is completely lost in the echo chamber of the Romney campaign. They seriously need to just hire some normal people to hang around and listen to the campaign staff. Maybe they could even make that dog whisperer noise when one of the staff says something completely...unfortunate.
 
2012-09-17 03:00:08 AM
It's McCain/Palin all over again, but they aren't waiting to get all the biatching out there.

There are a bunch of people wanting to make sure the right wing knows "this trainwreck wasn't my fault"...
 
2012-09-17 03:02:34 AM
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2012-09-17 03:03:05 AM

quatchi: So the same guy who cut Afghanistan out of Mitt's speech also was the push behind Clint's unvetted weirdness?

The same guy who previously compared Mitt to Micheal Vick without even a hint of awareness of how dumb that was?

And Mitt still isn't gonna fire him?

Well, um okay then. Carry on!


Mitt's a sticker

fta A Romney official explained: "Mitt is a sticker - he stays with you. He had a reputation at Bain for sticking with people. They made a bad investment, he hung with them. ... None of this is going to be fixed. This is the organization, and this is who Mitt is betting on to win. There aren't going to be further changes."
 
2012-09-17 03:06:06 AM
I wonder if the Republicans can convince Stuart Stevens to help out with some of their Senate campaigns, too.
 
2012-09-17 03:07:21 AM
I wish Hunter Thompson was around to see this campaign.
 
2012-09-17 03:13:07 AM
I knew this election season would be entertaining, but I severely underestimated just how entertaining it would be.
 
2012-09-17 03:16:53 AM

mediablitz: It's McCain/Palin all over again, but they aren't waiting to get all the biatching out there.
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Romney/Ryan makes McCain/Palin look like Clinton/Gore.


If you take Palin out of the picture, McCain ran a very good, disciplined campaign (which one would expect from a sitting Senator with 20 years experience).

Romney/Ryan has been amateur hour from the very beginning. This lack of discipline and early scapegoating is just one more indication of how poor his campaign is - which is really sad because he's going to get at least 45% of the popular vote anyway by virtue of not being an incumbent Dem.
 
2012-09-17 03:25:19 AM
Hot damn. If campaign sources are pissed enough to shiat on this guy in farking September, their internal polling must paint a really dire picture. This is gonna get ugly.

/and by "ugly," I mean "awesome"
 
2012-09-17 03:25:46 AM

quatchi: So the same guy who cut Afghanistan out of Mitt's speech also was the push behind Clint's unvetted weirdness?


No, he didn't push Clint at all - he just ensured that Clint's speech wasn't vetted. A bad call after the fact, certainly, but had you asked ten random strangers beforehand if any of them thought Clint would do something like that, I doubt any of them would have thought it likely. Guess he knows for next time.
 
2012-09-17 03:35:24 AM
Geez, Mittens. The one guy you SHOULD fire, and.......
 
2012-09-17 03:44:33 AM
Don't worry Mitt, no one can fire you. What we can do to help you out is to not hire you.
 
2012-09-17 03:50:05 AM
This sounds like a damage control scapegoating. Doesn't matter.
 
2012-09-17 03:53:19 AM

Snapper Carr: mediablitz: It's McCain/Palin all over again, but they aren't waiting to get all the biatching out there.
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Romney/Ryan makes McCain/Palin look like Clinton/Gore.


If you take Palin out of the picture, McCain ran a very good, disciplined campaign (which one would expect from a sitting Senator with 20 years experience).Romney/Ryan has been amateur hour from the very beginning. This lack of discipline and early scapegoating is just one more indication of how poor his campaign is - which is really sad because he's going to get at least 45% of the popular vote anyway by virtue of not being an incumbent Dem.


No. McCain suspended his campaign to try to ride into DC and save the economy, and almost upset the entire applecart when he insisted Paulson scrap his plan so McCain could put his name on something else and become a hero. He either picked Palin, or allowed his advisors to pick her for him, which is not a sign of someone running a "very good, disciplined campaign." As the economy crumbled around him, his most memorable statement about it was that the fundamentals of the economy are strong. He tried to blame the Russians for the trouble in Georgia, and said on tape that he was ok with us occupying Iraq for a hundred years.

Palin was the final nail in his coffin, but he already had one foot squarely in the grave before she came along.
 
2012-09-17 03:53:42 AM
"Stuart was educated at Colorado College, Middlebury College, Oxford University and the UCLA Film School, [and] is also a former Fellow of the American Film Institute."

Whiskey
Tango
Foxtrot
?????

That's who they've got running the most critical campaign in recent GOP history??? A FILM MAJOR???
 
2012-09-17 03:56:02 AM

Tor_Eckman: Snapper Carr: mediablitz: It's McCain/Palin all over again, but they aren't waiting to get all the biatching out there.
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Romney/Ryan makes McCain/Palin look like Clinton/Gore.


If you take Palin out of the picture, McCain ran a very good, disciplined campaign (which one would expect from a sitting Senator with 20 years experience).Romney/Ryan has been amateur hour from the very beginning. This lack of discipline and early scapegoating is just one more indication of how poor his campaign is - which is really sad because he's going to get at least 45% of the popular vote anyway by virtue of not being an incumbent Dem.

No. McCain suspended his campaign to try to ride into DC and save the economy, and almost upset the entire applecart when he insisted Paulson scrap his plan so McCain could put his name on something else and become a hero. He either picked Palin, or allowed his advisors to pick her for him, which is not a sign of someone running a "very good, disciplined campaign." As the economy crumbled around him, his most memorable statement about it was that the fundamentals of the economy are strong. He tried to blame the Russians for the trouble in Georgia, and said on tape that he was ok with us occupying Iraq for a hundred years.

Palin was the final nail in his coffin, but he already had one foot squarely in the grave before she came along.


People forget how much he was treading water before they picked Palin. He would have lost regardless because his campaign was painful to watch.
 
2012-09-17 03:56:56 AM

Bonanza Jellybean: Hot damn. If campaign sources are pissed enough to shiat on this guy in farking September, their internal polling must paint a really dire picture. This is gonna get ugly.


I'm betting money that EVERYONE in both campaigns is following Nate SIlver obsessively, and his numbers have had Obama ahead with enough electoral votes to win. The popular vote is still in flux, but barring a major, career-ending mistake, there's no way Romney can win the states he needs (OH, PA, FL, and VA in some combo) to win the election.

What's funny is of Romney's notional home states (MA, MI, NH, UT and CA), he's only going to win one: Utah, while Obama will take both HI and IL.
 
2012-09-17 03:59:11 AM
Yes, go with that, guys. Go with "Mitt isn't to blame because all his decisions are made for him and unlike other politicians he doesn't have the social or empathy skills to know when to override his campaign manager's decisions."

That's a winner right there.
 
2012-09-17 04:01:24 AM
I can't get this site at work. Can someone clue me in on what was said?
 
2012-09-17 04:02:58 AM

Sabyen91: This sounds like a damage control scapegoating. Doesn't matter.


Yeah, but usually people who are working a losing campaign wait until AFTER the election to engage in this sort of ass-covering.
 
2012-09-17 04:04:02 AM

Dwight_Yeast: Bonanza Jellybean: Hot damn. If campaign sources are pissed enough to shiat on this guy in farking September, their internal polling must paint a really dire picture. This is gonna get ugly.

I'm betting money that EVERYONE in both campaigns is following Nate SIlver obsessively, and his numbers have had Obama ahead with enough electoral votes to win. The popular vote is still in flux, but barring a major, career-ending mistake, there's no way Romney can win the states he needs (OH, PA, FL, and VA in some combo) to win the election.

What's funny is of Romney's notional home states (MA, MI, NH, UT and CA), he's only going to win one: Utah, while Obama will take both HI and IL.


Silver's numbers have been surprisingly steady. In the past there were more peaks and valleys. I am guessing it is because the country is more divided than ever (between smart people and morons (and a few rich people)).
 
2012-09-17 04:05:13 AM

Dwight_Yeast: Sabyen91: This sounds like a damage control scapegoating. Doesn't matter.

Yeah, but usually people who are working a losing campaign wait until AFTER the election to engage in this sort of ass-covering.


I know. That is definitely the surprising part. I would laugh if Romney threw in the towel and said "fark it, I don't need to be embarrassed on election night."
 
2012-09-17 04:07:59 AM

dudemanbro: I wish Hunter Thompson was around to see this campaign.


Oh man, he would piss vitriol aaaaalll over this whole campaign. It's truly a loss to the ages that we won't get to hear what he says about this one.
 
2012-09-17 04:13:08 AM

Dwight_Yeast: Bonanza Jellybean: Hot damn. If campaign sources are pissed enough to shiat on this guy in farking September, their internal polling must paint a really dire picture. This is gonna get ugly.

I'm betting money that EVERYONE in both campaigns is following Nate SIlver obsessively, and his numbers have had Obama ahead with enough electoral votes to win. The popular vote is still in flux, but barring a major, career-ending mistake, there's no way Romney can win the states he needs (OH, PA, FL, and VA in some combo) to win the election.

What's funny is of Romney's notional home states (MA, MI, NH, UT and CA), he's only going to win one: Utah, while Obama will take both HI and IL.


This just in: Republicans that can afford to live in a blue state, do.
 
2012-09-17 04:13:28 AM

Sabyen91: Silver's numbers have been surprisingly steady. In the past there were more peaks and valleys. I am guessing it is because the country is more divided than ever (between smart people and morons (and a few rich people)).


Plenty of smart, rich people voting for Obama come November. It's always interesting to look at the ward maps for NYC, SF, LA, Chicago, etc. Democrats almost always carry all the richest areas, and all of the well-educated areas in major cities.

But you've hit on the point: by making the country more and more divided and being less willing to compromise on all issue (even things they've supported in the past), the GOP has reduced the margin to a tiny number of independent swing voters, and there aren't enough of them that will move to Romney in important states to win it for him.

The sad thing is that the media will pretend that this is still a horse race down to the wire, as the POPULAR vote is so close. I haven't run the numbers, but I think Obama could lose the popular vote and still win the election.
 
2012-09-17 04:15:23 AM

amindofiron: dudemanbro: I wish Hunter Thompson was around to see this campaign.

Oh man, he would piss vitriol aaaaalll over this whole campaign. It's truly a loss to the ages that we won't get to hear what he says about this one.


He'd either shoot himself again, or shoot Romney and Ryan.
 
2012-09-17 04:17:58 AM

Dwight_Yeast: The sad thing is that the media will pretend that this is still a horse race down to the wire


They also will not be accountable for lying about it being a horse race. It is not even close right now but every major outlet is claiming they are neck and neck. When is one farking network going to tell the truth and say the chances of Romney winning are slim and none?
 
2012-09-17 04:19:53 AM
FTA: As mishaps have piled up, Stevens has taken the brunt of the blame for an unwieldy campaign structure that, as the joke goes among frustrated Republicans, badly needs a consultant from Bain & Co. to straighten it out.

So someone needs to take the campaign over, bleed its bank accounts dry for personal profit, and let the shrivelled husk wither and die?

Sounds fine to me. I'd wait until I was sure Adelson's given all he's going to, though.
 
2012-09-17 04:41:18 AM
Is there a documentary filmmaker embedded in the campaign like Alexandra Pelosi was during '08? Because when all is said and done I'd really love to see a documentary about what's gone down in the Romney camp during this campaign.

The inevitable HBO documentary will be awesome, as will the tell all books.
 
2012-09-17 04:47:48 AM
Like Michael Vick...........spends all day turning the ball over but still inexplicably has a chance to win?
 
2012-09-17 04:49:03 AM

Sabyen91: Dwight_Yeast: Sabyen91: This sounds like a damage control scapegoating. Doesn't matter.

Yeah, but usually people who are working a losing campaign wait until AFTER the election to engage in this sort of ass-covering.

I know. That is definitely the surprising part. I would laugh if Romney threw in the towel and said "fark it, I don't need to be embarrassed on election night."


But wait- aren't all the far right wingers thinking Romney is a shoe-in at this point? We just covered this in another thread. The cognitive dissonance and utter divorce from reality is amazing to watch.

It seems to me the recent strategy by Romney is to appeal to the far right and try to get as many of them out to vote as possible. He's not going to get any Democrats. He's not going to get any reasonable Independents. So he's doubling down on the Derp and trying to motivate the few extra mouth-breathers that might have stayed home on election to mount their Rascals and turn out to vote for him.
 
2012-09-17 04:49:44 AM

Dwight_Yeast: He'd either shoot himself again, or shoot Romney and Ryan.


I think he'd feel pretty good about it.
 
2012-09-17 04:53:24 AM

Dwight_Yeast: amindofiron: dudemanbro: I wish Hunter Thompson was around to see this campaign.

Oh man, he would piss vitriol aaaaalll over this whole campaign. It's truly a loss to the ages that we won't get to hear what he says about this one.

He'd either shoot himself again, or shoot Romney and Ryan.


It'd be far more entertaining than watching Rmoney shoot himself in the repeatedly. Someone needs to invent a time machine and bring his ass here.
 
2012-09-17 04:56:35 AM
Mmm... why are we linking to a story about an article instead of just featuring the original Politico piece? I see that happening quite a lot. Is this part of some greater click-through conspiracy, or are the submitters merely too lazy to bother?
 
2012-09-17 05:03:43 AM

A Terrible Human: Dwight_Yeast: amindofiron: dudemanbro: I wish Hunter Thompson was around to see this campaign.

Oh man, he would piss vitriol aaaaalll over this whole campaign. It's truly a loss to the ages that we won't get to hear what he says about this one.

He'd either shoot himself again, or shoot Romney and Ryan.

It'd be far more entertaining than watching Rmoney shoot himself in the repeatedly. Someone needs to invent a time machine and bring his ass here.


Maybe someone did, and that's why he shot himself
 
2012-09-17 05:34:39 AM

DrBenway: Mmm... why are we linking to a story about an article instead of just featuring the original Politico piece? I see that happening quite a lot. Is this part of some greater click-through conspiracy, or are the submitters merely too lazy to bother?


Often the actual article had already been submitted with a headline the admins didn't see fit to approve. TFers can resubmit the same link with a different headline, but not Liters.
 
2012-09-17 05:49:33 AM
Michael Vick wasn't born rich. he has had to actually fight for things, and earn things in his life. He's a shiatty man, but at least he's a man - and the comparison is an insult to him.
 
2012-09-17 05:53:20 AM

ox45tallboy: TFers can resubmit the same link with a different headline, but not Liters.


We can? I've been here since forever. I can't.
 
2012-09-17 05:53:47 AM
I think Mitt is a lot like the bad guy from UHF.
 
2012-09-17 05:58:18 AM

khhsdude: I think Mitt is a lot like the bad guy from UHF.


Mitt Romney is a perfect blend of Gordon Gekko, Paulie Walnuts and Joe Isuzu.
 
2012-09-17 06:00:28 AM

Snapper Carr: [imageshack.us image 527x393]


Rmoney did a campaign stop (a few months back) where I work in downtown Dunedin. Dunedin is nicknamed Dogedan as the businesses are all dog friendly and the business community supports the local dog rescue group rather enthusiastically.

There were bunches of the Dogs Against Romney people there and they were awesome. I assume the majority were Obama supporters. But, they were more than gracious to us Paulbots.

In case you were wondering, Rmoney said nothing of any value during his speech. Believe in America and American Exceptionalism ad nauseum.
 
2012-09-17 06:02:46 AM

ox45tallboy: DrBenway: Mmm... why are we linking to a story about an article instead of just featuring the original Politico piece? I see that happening quite a lot. Is this part of some greater click-through conspiracy, or are the submitters merely too lazy to bother?

Often the actual article had already been submitted with a headline the admins didn't see fit to approve. TFers can resubmit the same link with a different headline, but not Liters.


Actually you can. All you need to do is put a ? at the end of the URL, then put in any text you want.

So like ?Blablabla ?Dogs etc. Each time, it's a unique URL but it still takes you to the same place.
 
2012-09-17 06:12:51 AM

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I believe that should be Who Left the Dog Out
 
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