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(Vanity Fair)   Reporter spends 6 months embedded with Barack Obama: "All the people who had been demanding intervention [in Libya] went nuts after we intervened and said it was outrageous. That's because the controversy machine is bigger than the reality machine"   (vanityfair.com) divider line 43
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2012-09-16 06:18:38 PM
6 votes:

SouthParkCon: slobbers on his Messiah's knob


You sound closeted.
2012-09-16 07:40:35 PM
5 votes:

simplicimus: tenpoundsofcheese: fta: "He prefers the F.B.I.'s because it is a bit smaller than a regulation court, which reduces also the advantages of youth"

what a surprise.

Really, Basketball ? That's the best you come up?


You go to war with the derp you have, not the derp you wish you had.
2012-09-16 08:38:22 PM
4 votes:

SouthParkCon: So a noted Liberal author slobbers on his Messiah's knob and the Fark Progressive Brigade heralds it as further proof of Dear Leader's right to rule.

Your tears will be so sweet come November...

/Flame On!


www.bitlogic.com
2012-09-16 08:32:50 PM
4 votes:

make me some tea: gopher321: Benevolent Misanthrope: Welcome to the "no shiat" files. Jesus - it's like people have no idea how politics works.

This is why I'm seriously considering moving to Canada. They may have the same lack of leaders the US does, but at least their leaders' little picayune arguments don't affect the entire farking world.

I work with an ex-pat Yank. Helluva nice guy, real smart, cute wife. Bit of a conspiracy freak. Though I have to admit some of the things he's told me about what your government is up to/what might be up to scare the shiat out of me.

After reading this entire piece, much like after reading "What Happened" about the Bush admin, I found that the man and how he operates are somewhat different than he's largely portrayed, even by sympathetic press.

I found the decision making process Obama employs particularly interesting, and reassuring. It'd be neat to see how that compares to other Administrations.


Obama does not compare to any administration in any way. He is the worst president and worst American in American history. (A title formerly held by Jiminy Carter.) The Fresh Prince of Bill Ayers also violated the War Powers Act with his actions regarding Libya.
2012-09-16 07:59:21 PM
4 votes:
www.sanfranciscosentinel.com 

The point guard laughed, turned to another guy on the bench, and said, "Remember Rey?"

"Who's Rey?" I asked.

"Rey pump-faked, turned, and just connected with the president right in the mouth," the other guy said. "Gave him 16 stitches."

"Where's Rey?" I asked.

"Rey hasn't been back."
2012-09-16 06:38:37 PM
4 votes:
This piece did an amazing job at showing Obama's love for the US and how seriously he would be at the job if he could legally be elected president.
2012-09-16 06:24:49 PM
4 votes:

Gyrfalcon: What is it with hard-right trolls and their fascination with fellating the Commander in Chief?


Once you go black...
2012-09-16 06:36:04 PM
3 votes:

fusillade762: Wow, it's like the trolls aren't even trying anymore.


How disheartened would you be if your job was to troll for Mitt Romney?
2012-09-16 06:25:17 PM
3 votes:

Gyrfalcon: themindiswatching: SouthParkCon: slobbers on his Messiah's knob

You sound closeted.

What is it with hard-right trolls and their fascination with fellating the Commander in Chief?


You have to understand that when they use the term, it means manly, non-homosexual fellating.
2012-09-16 06:06:20 PM
3 votes:

simplicimus: tenpoundsofcheese: fta: "He prefers the F.B.I.'s because it is a bit smaller than a regulation court, which reduces also the advantages of youth"

what a surprise.

Really, Basketball ? That's the best you come up?

Socialist

basketball. Worse than Hitler.
2012-09-16 09:15:15 PM
2 votes:

St_Francis_P: Gyrfalcon: themindiswatching: SouthParkCon: slobbers on his Messiah's knob

You sound closeted.

What is it with hard-right trolls and their fascination with fellating the Commander in Chief?

You have to understand that when they use the term, it means manly, non-homosexual fellating.


I think I understand.
2012-09-16 08:36:08 PM
2 votes:

armoredbulldozer: Obama does not compare to any administration in any way. He is the worst president and worst American in American history. (A title formerly held by Jiminy Carter.) The Fresh Prince of Bill Ayers also violated the War Powers Act with his actions regarding Libya.


Oh, is that so? I didn't know that. Thanks for the info.
2012-09-16 06:42:36 PM
2 votes:

Bocasio: Michael Lewis is a great writer.
M Lewis referenced there is an area on Air Force One for the Presidents Coffin.

President Obama (all Presidents) coffin is near the surgical area on the plane.
The President travels with his coffin.

Should be a great book


Wasn't that part of the original JFK conspiracy, why they had kept a coffin on board?

I wonder...dies he pick out his own coffin? Imagine...."congratulations on being elected, here is your wind breaker, coffee mug, and presidential basketball shoes, now if you'll just step over here for the coffin fitting......"
2012-09-16 06:40:33 PM
2 votes:

snowshovel: This piece did an amazing job at showing Obama's love for the US and how seriously he would be at the job if he could legally be elected president.


Ok, that's a little better than TPoC.
2012-09-16 06:13:17 PM
2 votes:

make me some tea: crazyeddie: Awesome article. Too bad subby put it in the one place where no one will ever read it: The Politics Tab.

You tend to get a better quality conversation the Politics tab, even if fewer will see it.


You must have a lot of people on ignore.
2012-09-16 05:55:42 PM
2 votes:

tenpoundsofcheese: fta: "He prefers the F.B.I.'s because it is a bit smaller than a regulation court, which reduces also the advantages of youth".


Romney.exe would hire other people to play basketball for him.
2012-09-16 05:55:09 PM
2 votes:

tenpoundsofcheese: fta: "He prefers the F.B.I.'s because it is a bit smaller than a regulation court, which reduces also the advantages of youth"

what a surprise.


See! He's not in favor of over-regulation!
2012-09-16 05:50:12 PM
2 votes:
Awesome article. Too bad subby put it in the one place where no one will ever read it: The Politics Tab.
2012-09-17 08:54:10 PM
1 votes:

Gyrfalcon: It's your own fault for engaging with someone named after a bottom-dwelling reject from the Devonian whose mouth is bigger than its body.


Glad you appreciate the subtle self-deprecating humor.
2012-09-17 07:40:13 PM
1 votes:

jso2897: Gunther: Gulper Eel: Gunther: That's incredibly common practice for an embedded reporter.

All the cool kids are doing it. Which makes it perfectly okay.

Well no, but it is a common and understandable practice for reporters who are given a lot of access. It doesn't make him a "propagandist".

When you reject any information that conflicts with your existing worldview, everything except selective "feed" liike Fox News, is "propaganda". The right-wing radical of today lives inside an airtight bublle of information.
To Gulper Eel, any information that presents the wicked Kenyan Muslim usurper as any sort of decent human being is false by definition - since it contradicts what he already holds to be the "truth".
That's how the "Stormfront" crowd process information.


It's your own fault for engaging with someone named after a bottom-dwelling reject from the Devonian whose mouth is bigger than its body.
2012-09-17 01:04:48 PM
1 votes:

simplicimus: Well yeah, cause everybody gets their own Basketball.


I just had a really amusing mental image of ten basketballs being in play in an NBA game. That would be a pretty interesting yet totally chaotic game.

HAMMERTOE: As for Guantanamo, Obama tried to close it. Unfortunately, he tried to do so by shipping all the prisoners into the U.S. proper. Not the best of his ideas. It's understandable that Congress would shut him down on this. Perhaps the only thing I can give the GOP credit for in the past four years.


No, it's not understandable at all, unless you also believe that Gitmo prisoners can break out of supermax facilities with their laser eyes like the Illinois GOP does.
2012-09-17 03:53:33 AM
1 votes:

gopher321: Benevolent Misanthrope: Welcome to the "no shiat" files. Jesus - it's like people have no idea how politics works.

This is why I'm seriously considering moving to Canada. They may have the same lack of leaders the US does, but at least their leaders' little picayune arguments don't affect the entire farking world.

I work with an ex-pat Yank. Helluva nice guy, real smart, cute wife. Bit of a conspiracy freak. Though I have to admit some of the things he's told me about what your government is up to/what might be up to scare the shiat out of me.


Chemtrails don't actually exist.
2012-09-17 03:48:07 AM
1 votes:

propasaurus: shower_in_my_socks: You would think that with the 100's of millions of dollars rich Republicans are throwing into this race, they could buy better trolls. I guess the Fark Politics tab gets the "he's my retarded cousin and I need to give him something to do during the day" trolls, and they save the A-list for other sites.

What's even sadder is the guys who get stuck working the graveyard shift.


We need to be nicer to them, otherwise there's going to be a massive amount of suicide reports for the cops to write on the morning of November 7th, and those things take FOREVER to write.
2012-09-17 03:33:47 AM
1 votes:
You would think that with the 100's of millions of dollars rich Republicans are throwing into this race, they could buy better trolls. I guess the Fark Politics tab gets the "he's my retarded cousin and I need to give him something to do during the day" trolls, and they save the A-list for other sites.
2012-09-17 12:30:11 AM
1 votes:

Savage Belief: Mrtraveler01: SouthParkCon: Your tears will be so sweet come November...

Why is that?

I think he means tears of joy?


Maybe he's expecting us to all play VVVVVV in November?

yctag.com
2012-09-16 11:17:59 PM
1 votes:

Bocasio: Michael Lewis is a great writer.
M Lewis referenced there is an area on Air Force One for the Presidents Coffin.

President Obama (all Presidents) coffin is near the surgical area on the plane.
The President travels with his coffin.

Should be a great book


"Memento mori, Mr. President."
2012-09-16 11:08:55 PM
1 votes:
This wasn't bad. day in the life sort of thing, there was an equally interesting one done for GW and Clinton and that's as old as I am. this is par for the course. plenty of access, nothing really mindblowing despite the fact this dude spent 6 mo in the White House. a simon-pure valentine., ought to be in textbooks.

But I think we can all be grateful for one thing, and that's that Matt Taibbi wasn't involved. I shudder to think what this bowl of mush would have been like if he had the byline.
2012-09-16 10:23:02 PM
1 votes:

Gunther: /yes, I'm calling Greenwald farking crazy.
//because he is.


Glenn Greenwald is invaluable for pointing out civil liberties violations. It's a shame that he only has one gear and that gear is breathless hyperbole.
2012-09-16 10:22:40 PM
1 votes:

simplicimus: snowshovel: This piece did an amazing job at showing Obama's love for the US and how seriously he would be at the job if he could legally be elected president.

Ok, that's a little better than TPoC.


I liked it.. I give 6/10
2012-09-16 10:22:35 PM
1 votes:

Dwight_Yeast: make me some tea: I would like to have seen more of a discussion on how he feels about some of his failures, and his more controversial actions (drone strikes, choosing not to close Guantanomo, etc)

Are You High?

And drone strikes go right along with the foreign policy he outlined in the debates and speeches before the 2008 election: he said he'd go into other countries to get bin Ladan other members of al Qaeda, but do it in the least invasive war possible, and we're still technically in a war in (but not with) Afghanistan.

Was I the only one who actually paid attention to what Obama said in 2008?


No.

But then we're probably the only ones who realize that often a president can't deliver on those McDonald's cheeseburgers, too.
2012-09-16 10:19:32 PM
1 votes:

sparkeyjames: When this article goes wide spread, which it will, I look forward to mountain of stupid knee jerk
republican reactions.


1. "If he's so open to competition, then what happened to Rey?"

2. *Basketball related dog whistle*

3. Churchill bust!

4. He uses the royal we and refuses to watch cable news. OMG Boy King!
2012-09-16 09:54:44 PM
1 votes:

buster_v: \talking points that didn't work in 2008 Drinking Game


Will those talking points be part of the presidential debate drinking game? And if so, has anyone yet assembled a complete list of them?

I have a pint bottle of Lagunitas "Wilco Tango Foxtrot" that I'm thinking I'll break out for at least the first debate.
2012-09-16 07:43:26 PM
1 votes:
I'll say. The reality machine I live in is the one where qualified people undergo credit and background checks and have to write code in order to get temp jobs.
2012-09-16 07:01:24 PM
1 votes:
Oh well, I thought, at least I can guard the president. Obama played in high school, on a team that won the Hawaii state championship. But he hadn't played in college, and even in high school he hadn't started. Plus, he hadn't played in several months, and he was days away from his 51st birthday: how good could he be?

This is how I know, without reading further, that he's about to get his ass beat by the President.
2012-09-16 07:01:01 PM
1 votes:
"No one held back, no one deferred. Guys on [Obama's] team dribbled past him and ignored the fact he was wide open. . . .

"'No one seems to be taking it easy on [Obama],' I said.

'If you take it easy on him, you're not invited back,' he explained.


Somehow I can't imagine Romney taking a similar tack.

I can imagine Romney not inviting someone back for not letting him win though.

Maybe even a good firing. Mitt likes to fire people.
2012-09-16 06:46:50 PM
1 votes:

propasaurus: How disheartened would you be if your job was to troll for Mitt Romney?


Are we sure those are actual humans trolling? Maybe they're using some sort of troll mad libs program.

/we should run Turing tests on them.
2012-09-16 06:44:12 PM
1 votes:

I_Hate_Iowa: First impressions while reading: The guys Obama plays basketball with don't treat him differently just because he's the President. I imagine guys playing cribbage with Romney losing on purpose.


Someone here mentioned at story (don't know if its true or not) that Romney frequently changed the rules mid-game on various board games on family game night.

/he doesn't like to lose
//and he's not about to let rules stop him winning
2012-09-16 06:41:21 PM
1 votes:

SouthParkCon: So a noted Liberal author slobbers on his Messiah's knob and the Fark Progressive Brigade heralds it as further proof of Dear Leader's right to rule.

Your tears will be so sweet come November...

/Flame On!


The obsession continues.
2012-09-16 06:20:40 PM
1 votes:

themindiswatching: SouthParkCon: slobbers on his Messiah's knob

You sound closeted.


What is it with hard-right trolls and their fascination with fellating the Commander in Chief?

/also, why does Fark spellcheck not think "fellating" is a word?
2012-09-16 06:20:24 PM
1 votes:

SouthParkCon: Your tears will be so sweet come November...


Why is that?
2012-09-16 06:11:54 PM
1 votes:
Well duh! Just look at that pretend war on women. No one understood that. Least of all women. But controversy sells.
2012-09-16 05:58:49 PM
1 votes:

themindiswatching: tenpoundsofcheese: fta: "He prefers the F.B.I.'s because it is a bit smaller than a regulation court, which reduces also the advantages of youth".

Romney.exe would hire other people to play basketball for him.


He would change the rules by executive order.
2012-09-16 05:57:40 PM
1 votes:
There's a difference between presenting yourself and your ideas in the most positive light (and, conversely, putting your political opponent and their ideas in a negative light) and outright lying and just making reality up as you go along.

The GOP crossed that line a long time and just kept going.

Their narrative is now become so laughably self contradictory and devoid of any relationship to reality it's a wonder any of their paid shills can still mouth the words without breaking up.

"They weren't against it until they found out Obama was for it" pretty much sums them up.

Like Mitt famously (or infamously depending on how one views these things) saying GM should go bankrupt then after the fact trying to claim credit these mental midgets who originally gave Obama crap for not doing enough in Libya and then crying that he did too much when he did act have absolutely no credibility.

ZEE-RO.

/You read that last part in Bubba's voice, didn't you?
 
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