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(Vanity Fair)   Reporter spends 6 months embedded with Barack Obama: "All the people who had been demanding intervention [in Libya] went nuts after we intervened and said it was outrageous. That's because the controversy machine is bigger than the reality machine"   (vanityfair.com) divider line 182
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2012-09-16 03:45:53 PM
It's a repeating pattern. The latest gotcha was when Obama issued waivers for welfare-to-work requirements for GOP governors.
 
2012-09-16 03:50:03 PM
Welcome to the "no shiat" files. Jesus - it's like people have no idea how politics works.

This is why I'm seriously considering moving to Canada. They may have the same lack of leaders the US does, but at least their leaders' little picayune arguments don't affect the entire farking world.
 
2012-09-16 03:54:57 PM
Welcome to January, 2009.
 
2012-09-16 03:56:47 PM

Benevolent Misanthrope: Welcome to the "no shiat" files. Jesus - it's like people have no idea how politics works.

This is why I'm seriously considering moving to Canada. They may have the same lack of leaders the US does, but at least their leaders' little picayune arguments don't affect the entire farking world.


I work with an ex-pat Yank. Helluva nice guy, real smart, cute wife. Bit of a conspiracy freak. Though I have to admit some of the things he's told me about what your government is up to/what might be up to scare the shiat out of me.
 
2012-09-16 04:10:52 PM

gopher321: Benevolent Misanthrope: Welcome to the "no shiat" files. Jesus - it's like people have no idea how politics works.

This is why I'm seriously considering moving to Canada. They may have the same lack of leaders the US does, but at least their leaders' little picayune arguments don't affect the entire farking world.

I work with an ex-pat Yank. Helluva nice guy, real smart, cute wife. Bit of a conspiracy freak. Though I have to admit some of the things he's told me about what your government is up to/what might be up to scare the shiat out of me.


After reading this entire piece, much like after reading "What Happened" about the Bush admin, I found that the man and how he operates are somewhat different than he's largely portrayed, even by sympathetic press.

I found the decisionmaking process Obama employs particularly interesting, and reassuring. It'd be neat to see how that compares to other Administrations.
 
2012-09-16 04:14:48 PM
This piece did an amazing job at showing Obama's love for the US and how seriously he takes his role as President.
 
2012-09-16 05:02:49 PM

St_Francis_P: It's a repeating pattern. The latest gotcha was when Obama issued waivers for welfare-to-work requirements for GOP governors.


You mean proposed waivers months after the House GOP had passed a bill that would do away with them entirely.
 
2012-09-16 05:16:03 PM

make me some tea: gopher321: Benevolent Misanthrope: Welcome to the "no shiat" files. Jesus - it's like people have no idea how politics works.

This is why I'm seriously considering moving to Canada. They may have the same lack of leaders the US does, but at least their leaders' little picayune arguments don't affect the entire farking world.

I work with an ex-pat Yank. Helluva nice guy, real smart, cute wife. Bit of a conspiracy freak. Though I have to admit some of the things he's told me about what your government is up to/what might be up to scare the shiat out of me.

After reading this entire piece, much like after reading "What Happened" about the Bush admin, I found that the man and how he operates are somewhat different than he's largely portrayed, even by sympathetic press.

I found the decisionmaking process Obama employs particularly interesting, and reassuring. It'd be neat to see how that compares to other Administrations.


I haven't read the piece, but I listened to an interview with the guy on Leonard Lopate and I liked how he talked about how Obama views everything with a 52-48% chance of success (or vice-versa). In other words that there are multiple contingencies and things can easily go a different way. What a complex mind and what a change from Dubya.
 
2012-09-16 05:49:26 PM
Politics, unfortunately, is about being contrarian, at least now. It Has been ridiculous under Obama, how insane republicans have gone just disagreeing about anything and everything, Obamacare being the biggest example I can think of, you know, considering they came up with it.
 
2012-09-16 05:50:12 PM
Awesome article. Too bad subby put it in the one place where no one will ever read it: The Politics Tab.
 
2012-09-16 05:51:41 PM
Obvious
 
2012-09-16 05:51:49 PM
fta: "He prefers the F.B.I.'s because it is a bit smaller than a regulation court, which reduces also the advantages of youth"

what a surprise.
 
2012-09-16 05:55:09 PM

tenpoundsofcheese: fta: "He prefers the F.B.I.'s because it is a bit smaller than a regulation court, which reduces also the advantages of youth"

what a surprise.


See! He's not in favor of over-regulation!
 
2012-09-16 05:55:23 PM

tenpoundsofcheese: fta: "He prefers the F.B.I.'s because it is a bit smaller than a regulation court, which reduces also the advantages of youth"

what a surprise.


Wow. Way to give a little context there, Sparky.
 
2012-09-16 05:55:42 PM

tenpoundsofcheese: fta: "He prefers the F.B.I.'s because it is a bit smaller than a regulation court, which reduces also the advantages of youth".


Romney.exe would hire other people to play basketball for him.
 
2012-09-16 05:56:05 PM

coco ebert: I haven't read the piece, but I listened to an interview with the guy on Leonard Lopate and I liked how he talked about how Obama views everything with a 52-48% chance of success (or vice-versa). In other words that there are multiple contingencies and things can easily go a different way. What a complex mind and what a change from Dubya.


Yeah I saw the Fresh Air interview on NPR's "Most Emailed" this morning and listened. Adds even more to it.
 
2012-09-16 05:57:40 PM
There's a difference between presenting yourself and your ideas in the most positive light (and, conversely, putting your political opponent and their ideas in a negative light) and outright lying and just making reality up as you go along.

The GOP crossed that line a long time and just kept going.

Their narrative is now become so laughably self contradictory and devoid of any relationship to reality it's a wonder any of their paid shills can still mouth the words without breaking up.

"They weren't against it until they found out Obama was for it" pretty much sums them up.

Like Mitt famously (or infamously depending on how one views these things) saying GM should go bankrupt then after the fact trying to claim credit these mental midgets who originally gave Obama crap for not doing enough in Libya and then crying that he did too much when he did act have absolutely no credibility.

ZEE-RO.

/You read that last part in Bubba's voice, didn't you?
 
2012-09-16 05:58:49 PM

themindiswatching: tenpoundsofcheese: fta: "He prefers the F.B.I.'s because it is a bit smaller than a regulation court, which reduces also the advantages of youth".

Romney.exe would hire other people to play basketball for him.


He would change the rules by executive order.
 
2012-09-16 06:04:06 PM
It's a war zone out there.
Take a reporter with you.
 
2012-09-16 06:04:38 PM

make me some tea: coco ebert: I haven't read the piece, but I listened to an interview with the guy on Leonard Lopate and I liked how he talked about how Obama views everything with a 52-48% chance of success (or vice-versa). In other words that there are multiple contingencies and things can easily go a different way. What a complex mind and what a change from Dubya.

Yeah I saw the Fresh Air interview on NPR's "Most Emailed" this morning and listened. Adds even more to it.


Cool. Thanks.
 
2012-09-16 06:04:41 PM
First impressions while reading: The guys Obama plays basketball with don't treat him differently just because he's the President. I imagine guys playing cribbage with Romney losing on purpose.
 
2012-09-16 06:04:50 PM

tenpoundsofcheese: fta: "He prefers the F.B.I.'s because it is a bit smaller than a regulation court, which reduces also the advantages of youth"

what a surprise.


Really, Basketball ? That's the best you come up?
 
2012-09-16 06:05:21 PM

crazyeddie: Awesome article. Too bad subby put it in the one place where no one will ever read it: The Politics Tab.


You tend to get a better quality conversation the Politics tab, even if fewer will see it.
 
2012-09-16 06:06:20 PM

simplicimus: tenpoundsofcheese: fta: "He prefers the F.B.I.'s because it is a bit smaller than a regulation court, which reduces also the advantages of youth"

what a surprise.

Really, Basketball ? That's the best you come up?

Socialist

basketball. Worse than Hitler.
 
2012-09-16 06:09:55 PM

St_Francis_P: simplicimus: tenpoundsofcheese: fta: "He prefers the F.B.I.'s because it is a bit smaller than a regulation court, which reduces also the advantages of youth"

what a surprise.

Really, Basketball ? That's the best you come up?

Socialist basketball. Worse than Hitler.


Well yeah, cause everybody gets their own Basketball.
 
2012-09-16 06:11:53 PM
Michael Lewis is a great writer.
M Lewis referenced there is an area on Air Force One for the Presidents Coffin.

President Obama (all Presidents) coffin is near the surgical area on the plane.
The President travels with his coffin.

Should be a great book
 
2012-09-16 06:11:54 PM
Well duh! Just look at that pretend war on women. No one understood that. Least of all women. But controversy sells.
 
2012-09-16 06:13:12 PM

St_Francis_P: simplicimus: tenpoundsofcheese: fta: "He prefers the F.B.I.'s because it is a bit smaller than a regulation court, which reduces also the advantages of youth"

what a surprise.

Really, Basketball ? That's the best you come up?

Socialist basketball. Worse than Hitler.


Satan will create several million new levels in Hell just to show how evil Obama is when he dies.
 
2012-09-16 06:13:17 PM

make me some tea: crazyeddie: Awesome article. Too bad subby put it in the one place where no one will ever read it: The Politics Tab.

You tend to get a better quality conversation the Politics tab, even if fewer will see it.


You must have a lot of people on ignore.
 
2012-09-16 06:14:04 PM

Benevolent Misanthrope: tenpoundsofcheese: fta: "He prefers the F.B.I.'s because it is a bit smaller than a regulation court, which reduces also the advantages of youth"

what a surprise.

Wow. Way to give a little context there, Sparky.


He did. As little as possible.
 
2012-09-16 06:14:23 PM
So a noted Liberal author slobbers on his Messiah's knob and the Fark Progressive Brigade heralds it as further proof of Dear Leader's right to rule.

Your tears will be so sweet come November...

/Flame On!
 
2012-09-16 06:16:43 PM
 
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2012-09-16 06:18:18 PM
Glenn Greenwald says: Vanity Fair gives quote approval power to White House for Obama profile - Link
 
2012-09-16 06:18:38 PM

SouthParkCon: slobbers on his Messiah's knob


You sound closeted.
 
2012-09-16 06:19:04 PM

I_Hate_Iowa: First impressions while reading: The guys Obama plays basketball with don't treat him differently just because he's the President. I imagine guys playing cribbage with Romney losing on purpose.


True.
 
2012-09-16 06:20:24 PM

SouthParkCon: Your tears will be so sweet come November...


Why is that?
 
2012-09-16 06:20:40 PM

themindiswatching: SouthParkCon: slobbers on his Messiah's knob

You sound closeted.


What is it with hard-right trolls and their fascination with fellating the Commander in Chief?

/also, why does Fark spellcheck not think "fellating" is a word?
 
2012-09-16 06:21:06 PM

Notabunny: Michael Lewis on the Rachel Maddow show last week


Oops. Wrong link.  Try this one
 
2012-09-16 06:21:10 PM
FTFA: Eight years ago he could have taken a group tour of the White House and no one would have recognized him.

Funny because true.
 
2012-09-16 06:24:49 PM

Gyrfalcon: What is it with hard-right trolls and their fascination with fellating the Commander in Chief?


Once you go black...
 
2012-09-16 06:25:17 PM

Gyrfalcon: themindiswatching: SouthParkCon: slobbers on his Messiah's knob

You sound closeted.

What is it with hard-right trolls and their fascination with fellating the Commander in Chief?


You have to understand that when they use the term, it means manly, non-homosexual fellating.
 
2012-09-16 06:27:56 PM

unit63: FTFA: Eight years ago he could have taken a group tour of the White House and no one would have recognized him.

Funny because true.


I understand the point he's trying to make, but, no, that statement is not true. Eight years ago, everybody knew who Barack Obama was.
 
2012-09-16 06:31:02 PM
Wow, it's like the trolls aren't even trying anymore.
 
2012-09-16 06:31:21 PM

I_Hate_Iowa: First impressions while reading: The guys Obama plays basketball with don't treat him differently just because he's the President. I imagine guys playing cribbage with Romney losing on purpose.

 
2012-09-16 06:34:34 PM

Notabunny: unit63: FTFA: Eight years ago he could have taken a group tour of the White House and no one would have recognized him.

Funny because true.

I understand the point he's trying to make, but, no, that statement is not true. Eight years ago, everybody knew who Barack Obama was.


That's not true at all. While that speech catapulted him to prominence, the vast majority of Americans still had no idea who the hell he was until the primaries. You're confusing common knowledge in our self selected political wonk bubble for general common knowledge.
 
2012-09-16 06:36:04 PM

fusillade762: Wow, it's like the trolls aren't even trying anymore.


How disheartened would you be if your job was to troll for Mitt Romney?
 
2012-09-16 06:38:37 PM
This piece did an amazing job at showing Obama's love for the US and how seriously he would be at the job if he could legally be elected president.
 
2012-09-16 06:40:33 PM

snowshovel: This piece did an amazing job at showing Obama's love for the US and how seriously he would be at the job if he could legally be elected president.


Ok, that's a little better than TPoC.
 
2012-09-16 06:41:21 PM

SouthParkCon: So a noted Liberal author slobbers on his Messiah's knob and the Fark Progressive Brigade heralds it as further proof of Dear Leader's right to rule.

Your tears will be so sweet come November...

/Flame On!


The obsession continues.
 
2012-09-16 06:41:43 PM

GhostFish: make me some tea: crazyeddie: Awesome article. Too bad subby put it in the one place where no one will ever read it: The Politics Tab.

You tend to get a better quality conversation the Politics tab, even if fewer will see it.

You must have a lot of people on ignore.


A few, but have you been in a mainpage politics thread lately? I don't even know where these people come from. They quickly fill with hundreds of people derping the thing into the ground, as if someone blew a dog whistle and they all start barking.
 
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