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2012-09-16 02:21:19 PM
10 votes:
Admittedly, we are a sue-happy culture, but I think the woman's got a totally legitimate complaint, here. The store detained her and humiliated her in front of other employees and customers. That sounds like cause for compensation to me.
2012-09-16 04:10:46 PM
5 votes:

Oznog: 'At this time, he attempted to hand Plaintiff the two torn $100 bills he had misappropriated from her. When Plaintiff objected to receiving torn bills, Officer Edwards instructed Manager Russell to replace the bills he had wrongfully taken and destroyed.'

Ain't destroyed. As long as you have both halves taped together, it's legal tender worth $200. Any bank will take it.


True but the Walmart employee ripped them, he can go though the hassle of taking it to the bank.

I'm all for making the employee's involved wear a sign for the same amount of time and place that she was detained that says "I'm a farking moron" with other employees telling the customers the back story.
2012-09-16 04:06:39 PM
5 votes:
The bills can be taped back together and used, but I would have demanded replacements as well.
2012-09-16 02:51:14 PM
5 votes:
Using large bills while Mexican at WalMart? That's a detainin'.
2012-09-16 04:16:11 PM
4 votes:

ultraholland: After the bills were found legal by police the store manager allegedly tried to give her back the ripped currency

So wait, he (allegedly) attempted to return her money and she refused to accept it?


He (apparently) still thought it wasn't real money. So he was attempting to pass counterfeit currency when he tried to return those bills. Arrest him!
2012-09-16 04:09:23 PM
4 votes:
She should be suing the store for slander as well. Accusing me of a federal crime I didn't commit could seriously tarnish my character and cost future jobs that require a position of public trust clearance.
2012-09-16 03:11:38 PM
4 votes:

ecmoRandomNumbers: I don't think Walmart has a single employee with a 3-digit IQ.


They do, but usually they graduate from college and leave.
2012-09-16 04:06:11 PM
3 votes:
Good thing that she didn't try to use two dollar bills.
2012-09-16 05:58:18 PM
2 votes:

Tanukis_Parachute: if they 'were' counterfeit, the authorities would have preferred them whole instead of ripped up.


Exactly. You're supposed to hold them intact for the Secret Service to pick up. 

/I wonder if it was an attempted shakedown of a hispanic customer by the clerk / manager.

"confiscate" the suspect money and she pays with some other currency, then the clerk/manager tape it back together and voila'. They've made some extra dough for the day.
2012-09-16 05:20:34 PM
2 votes:

Farkenhostile: Why not just redirect fark.com to thedailymail.com on weekends to save people time?


No, don't do that.
If Fark were nothing but Daily Fail. I wouldn't even bother.
As it stands you have a 1-in-4 chance of reading a link that isn't DF.
Would be nice though if DF didn't get an auto green when the others don't stand much of a chance.

Boycott Daily Fail links!!!
2012-09-16 04:26:57 PM
2 votes:

KingoftheCheese: The manager was just doing his job. As a customer service representative, he was exercising his right to refuse service to anyone. And I'm willing to bet that this customer was less than calm. Usually ethnic women are quite loud and opinionated when confronted by figures of authority.


Racist much?
2012-09-16 04:18:44 PM
2 votes:

Girion47: She should be suing the store for slander as well. Accusing me of a federal crime I didn't commit could seriously tarnish my character and cost future jobs that require a position of public trust clearance.


Not simply accusing her, but "the employees told curious customers in passing that she was busted trying to use fake money."

Yeup: sue for defamation/slander.
2012-09-16 04:16:20 PM
2 votes:

ZAZ: When Plaintiff objected to receiving torn bills, Officer Edwards instructed Manager Russell to replace the bills he had wrongfully taken and destroyed.

Our good cop story of the day. ("The day" being December 18, 2010.)


Would've been a better cop story of the cop took the destroyed bills as evidence for the Treasury Department, in case they want to make an issue of the defacing of currency...



Defacement of currency is a violation of Title 18, Section 333 of the United States Code. Under this provision, currency defacement is generally defined as follows: Whoever mutilates, cuts, disfigures, perforates, unites or cements together, or does any other thing to any bank bill, draft, note, or other evidence of debt issued by any national banking association, Federal Reserve Bank, or Federal Reserve System, with intent to render such item(s) unfit to be reissued, shall be fined under this title or imprisoned not more than six months, or both.


Pretty clearly, the intent was to render it unfit for circulation, but I imagine the treasury would "reissue" them, as they will when you return 51% or more of a note...
2012-09-16 04:15:48 PM
2 votes:
"We don't accept $100 bills at Wal-Mart. If you have $100 you have to go to Target."
2012-09-16 04:09:22 PM
2 votes:

Oznog: 'At this time, he attempted to hand Plaintiff the two torn $100 bills he had misappropriated from her. When Plaintiff objected to receiving torn bills, Officer Edwards instructed Manager Russell to replace the bills he had wrongfully taken and destroyed.'

Ain't destroyed. As long as you have both halves taped together, it's legal tender worth $200. Any bank will take it.


Wal-Mart is free to instruct employees to deliver the repaired bills to a bank, after providing the falsely accused customer with undamaged currency.
2012-09-16 04:05:55 PM
2 votes:
I think this is one instance where a big fat lawsuit is needed. Normally, I don't approve of people suing for every little thing but this incident is beyond ridiculous.
2012-09-16 03:00:14 PM
2 votes:

xiaodown: Admittedly, we are a sue-happy culture, but I think the woman's got a totally legitimate complaint, here. The store detained her and humiliated her in front of other employees and customers. That sounds like cause for compensation to me.


Seriously. They kept her until after 5 in the morning.
2012-09-16 01:50:56 PM
2 votes:
I don't think Walmart has a single employee with a 3-digit IQ.
2012-09-17 05:33:11 AM
1 votes:

reimanr06: xiaodown: Admittedly, we are a sue-happy culture, but I think the woman's got a totally legitimate complaint, here. The store detained her and humiliated her in front of other employees and customers. That sounds like cause for compensation to me.

How about replacing the destroyed $200, an additional $200, and the firing of the guy responsible? That seems fair to me. $74000, the number cited in the article, seems like something a lawyer made up for his 40%-60% commission


If the destruction of bills had been where it stopped, sure, something under 1k and firing the douchenozzles involved would be great. It's the part where they not only detained her for four hours, but told passing customers she was a counterfeiter that makes all them extra zeros on the end justifiable.

Seriously, even after the dick-tastic way the whole episode started, ripping bills up and all, the situation could have been recovered if they'd acted respectfully for the rest of it. Of course, if you start off acting like a dick, why change tack partway through?
2012-09-17 04:48:31 AM
1 votes:

E-Brake: "Detained at the front of the store while told the police had been called, Ms Garcia claims that adding to her humiliation, the employees told curious customers in passing that she was busted trying to use fake money."

facepalm doesn't begin to describe this.


Words literally fail me trying to describe how bad this is.

I understand that $74,900 is the magic number that keeps it in state court instead of federal court, but if this is true (which it may be, since unusually for a Daily Fail "article" it has multiple sources) I would say she's entitled to a lot more. It's like the employee decided to check as many of the "don't do this if you don't want to get sued" boxes, and then when the manager came to assist he pointed out a few extra boxes the first guy had missed.

Also, could we get a "DIAF" for the manager? I'll admit it's not as douchey as arresting people in bars for public intoxication, but it's in the neighborhood.
2012-09-16 11:27:59 PM
1 votes:
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2012-09-16 09:21:59 PM
1 votes:
adding to her humiliation, the employees told curious customers in passing that she was busted trying to use fake money.

And there, ladies and gentleman, is the tort. All the other stuff is tenuously excused by shopkeeper's privilege. She also wasn't imprisoned or detained so much as she willingly stayed because she wanted her damn money back. The quoted bit is definitely not okay though, she'll get some money for that.
2012-09-16 09:08:27 PM
1 votes:

xiaodown: Admittedly, we are a sue-happy culture, but I think the woman's got a totally legitimate complaint, here. The store detained her and humiliated her in front of other employees and customers. That sounds like cause for compensation to me.


Yup. Not a lot of compensation but she certainly should get something.

jake_lex: Queensowntalia: lohphat: FTFA: "It was in the early hours of December 18, 2010..."

Cue: oldnewsissoexciting.jpg

It got media attention when she filed the suit several days ago.

"Ms Garcia, who said she was escorted out to her car by the officer around 5am, filed her complaint for false imprisonment and intentional infliction of emotional distress against the store on September 9."

My guess is that Walmart tried to do some sort of arbitration/mediation about this, tried to screw her in that too, and she rejected the offer and is now taking it to court. That would explain the long delay between this incident and the lawsuit.


Sounds reasonable.
2012-09-16 07:25:05 PM
1 votes:

Girion47: You can also send it to the Bureau of Engraving and Printing in Washington DC, 14th and D SW. The lab will piece your bills back together and send you a check. This also works if you have a 2 ft sphere of cash that was buried in the yard. They'll take it apart and determine value.


That is an oddly specific example...
2012-09-16 06:54:38 PM
1 votes:
Even with violating USC 18 § 333 aside for the simple defacement; the cops could have arrested the store employees for damaging or attempting to destroy evidence should the bills turned out to be counterfeit.
2012-09-16 06:48:19 PM
1 votes:
Don't most places have a "just give the suspected counterfeiter the money back and refuse the sale" policy?

If that bill HAD been a fake, the counterfeiter wouldn't have allowed him/herself to be detained. Nobody who's on the hook for decades of jail time is just going to say "Oh gee whiz! You got me! OK, slap on the cuff, Ms. Cashier. I'll just wait here quietly to be arrested." They'll pull out a knife or gun and do whatever it takes to get out of there.
2012-09-16 06:45:38 PM
1 votes:

BizarreMan: Tanukis_Parachute: if they 'were' counterfeit, the authorities would have preferred them whole instead of ripped up.

Exactly. You're supposed to hold them intact for the Secret Service to pick up. 

/I wonder if it was an attempted shakedown of a hispanic customer by the clerk / manager.

"confiscate" the suspect money and she pays with some other currency, then the clerk/manager tape it back together and voila'. They've made some extra dough for the day.


Right, and call the cops why?
2012-09-16 06:20:57 PM
1 votes:

ultraholland: After the bills were found legal by police the store manager allegedly tried to give her back the ripped currency

So wait, he (allegedly) attempted to return her money and she refused to accept it?


After first destroying currency, a federal crime in and of itself.

And he wasn't smart enough to actually test the currency first for himself? She didn't tender damaged/destroyed currency; she shouldn't expect the currency that they (allegedly) damaged/destroyed in return.

Also,

if they 'were' counterfeit, the authorities would have preferred them whole instead of ripped up.

this.

Doesn't seem to be about wanting to prosecute for counterfeiting to me. More like using $100 bills while Mexican at WalMart... which,

If Hispanics stopped shopping at Walmart, the company would fold in under a week.

isn't a bad idea...
2012-09-16 06:17:45 PM
1 votes:
Isn't it illegal to destroy currency? So shouldn't the salesclerk who ripped up the valid $100 bills be prosecuted?
2012-09-16 06:10:58 PM
1 votes:

BizarreMan: Tanukis_Parachute: if they 'were' counterfeit, the authorities would have preferred them whole instead of ripped up.

Exactly. You're supposed to hold them intact for the Secret Service to pick up. 

/I wonder if it was an attempted shakedown of a hispanic customer by the clerk / manager.

"confiscate" the suspect money and she pays with some other currency, then the clerk/manager tape it back together and voila'. They've made some extra dough for the day.


I'm sure it was an attempted shakedown and leave out the Hispanic part. The manager just wanted to be a dick, and this lady seemed vulnerable enough to provide an easy target. If Hispanics stopped shopping at Walmart, the company would fold in under a week.
2012-09-16 06:07:13 PM
1 votes:

Tanukis_Parachute: if they 'were' counterfeit, the authorities would have preferred them whole instead of ripped up.

someone went on a power trip.


My thought, too. Thinking they're fake is one thing, but ripping them in half makes zero sense no matter how you shake it.
2012-09-16 05:15:52 PM
1 votes:
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Thank goodness for the cop. My worst nightmare is that something like this happens to me, and everyone involved is too dumb to realize they're all wrong.
2012-09-16 05:07:56 PM
1 votes:

jat26006: styckx: After two hours at the front, police arrived around 4.15am

That's some impressive response time there Lou.

especially with someone "detained" by "security"


*sigh* Look up shopkeeper's privilege. Under just about every law in the land, storekeepers are allowed to detain someone suspected of theft for a reasonable amount of time in order to investigate it. Although nobody defines "reasonable" amount of time, the general rule in loss prevention is no more than 30 minutes. If the cops are going to take longer to arrive, you have to get the suspect's information and let them go, otherwise you're looking at false imprisonment.

Which is what I'd be considering were I in this lady's shoes. Also intentional infliction of emotional distress. She's got grounds for all kinds of fun tort claims, really.
2012-09-16 05:01:04 PM
1 votes:
Personally, I'd have pressed criminal charges against the manager and cashier for robbery at a minimum, kidnapping if I could.

If you forcibly take property from someone, the crime is robbery. It doesn't matter if you give the property you stole back after the fact, you're still guilty of robbery.

This just reinforces my opinion to never shop at wal-mart, ever, under any circumstance. I got a gift card to Wal-Mart a few years ago and I re-gifted it rather than have to step foot in there.
2012-09-16 04:49:28 PM
1 votes:

KingoftheCheese: Tough crowd today.

I just stop trolling right now and let you guys get back to your discussions.


You're not funny.
2012-09-16 04:40:43 PM
1 votes:
if they 'were' counterfeit, the authorities would have preferred them whole instead of ripped up.

someone went on a power trip.

i've spent some time recently in monterrey mexico for work and all my mexican colleagues spend the weekend in mcallen texas shopping at all sorts of places. except for some potential drug cartel stuff, monterrey is a beautiful town. really nice people that i met anyways.

never met anyone nice who worked at a walmart.
2012-09-16 04:36:13 PM
1 votes:

KingoftheCheese: Usually ethnic women are quite loud and opinionated when confronted by figures of authority.


"White American" isn't an ethnicity?

Foreign Connasewer: Racist much?


This.
2012-09-16 04:35:12 PM
1 votes:

Oznog: 'At this time, he attempted to hand Plaintiff the two torn $100 bills he had misappropriated from her. When Plaintiff objected to receiving torn bills, Officer Edwards instructed Manager Russell to replace the bills he had wrongfully taken and destroyed.'

Ain't destroyed. As long as you have both halves taped together, it's legal tender worth $200. Any bank will take it.


Then they can tape them together and take them to bank so she doesn't have to put up with one more hassle. They are asshats and *should* be made to replace them for her.
2012-09-16 04:33:18 PM
1 votes:
You know how many times the idiot behind the register holds a bill up to the light and has no clue what they're looking for? It's a farking vertical strip with the amount of the bill written on it. It's so god damned easy, it should take no more than 2 seconds.
2012-09-16 04:28:05 PM
1 votes:

KingoftheCheese: The manager was just doing his job. As a customer service representative, he was exercising his right to refuse service to anyone. And I'm willing to bet that this customer was less than calm. Usually ethnic women are quite loud and opinionated when confronted by figures of authority.


There's always one... as in 1/10.
2012-09-16 04:25:54 PM
1 votes:

KingoftheCheese: The manager was just doing his job. As a customer service representative, he was exercising his right to refuse service to anyone. And I'm willing to bet that this customer was less than calm. Usually ethnic women are quite loud and opinionated when confronted by figures of authority.


You don't get much less "ethnic" to me, but I would be "quite loud and opinionated" if some moron ripped up a $100 bill I gave them without checking it out because they were sure it was counterfeit.

But that probably wouldn't happen to me, if you follow my drift here.
2012-09-16 04:24:41 PM
1 votes:

Queensowntalia: lohphat: FTFA: "It was in the early hours of December 18, 2010..."

Cue: oldnewsissoexciting.jpg

It got media attention when she filed the suit several days ago.

"Ms Garcia, who said she was escorted out to her car by the officer around 5am, filed her complaint for false imprisonment and intentional infliction of emotional distress against the store on September 9."


My guess is that Walmart tried to do some sort of arbitration/mediation about this, tried to screw her in that too, and she rejected the offer and is now taking it to court. That would explain the long delay between this incident and the lawsuit.
2012-09-16 04:22:46 PM
1 votes:
The manager was just doing his job. As a customer service representative, he was exercising his right to refuse service to anyone. And I'm willing to bet that this customer was less than calm. Usually ethnic women are quite loud and opinionated when confronted by figures of authority.
2012-09-16 04:19:28 PM
1 votes:
Since when are walmart pukes allowed to "detain" you?
2012-09-16 04:19:22 PM
1 votes:

lohphat: FTFA: "It was in the early hours of December 18, 2010..."

Cue: oldnewsissoexciting.jpg


It got media attention when she filed the suit several days ago.

"Ms Garcia, who said she was escorted out to her car by the officer around 5am, filed her complaint for false imprisonment and intentional infliction of emotional distress against the store on September 9."
2012-09-16 04:18:07 PM
1 votes:

AbbeySomeone: Using large bills while Mexican at WalMart? That's a detainin'.


live close to the border. Noticed recently that 80% of Target's customers are Hispanic in appearance and use cash only, as in large amounts of cash in large denominations. Having taken large amounts of cash across international borders (legally, mind you) $100 bills make a smallish lump in the money belt and are still spendable. Walmart needs to retrain their employees about how not to alienate their cash carrying customers.
2012-09-16 04:17:13 PM
1 votes:
It's actually pretty common for minorities to pay with cash seeing that they don't have bank accounts. Stupid manager should know better.
2012-09-16 04:15:20 PM
1 votes:

ultraholland: After the bills were found legal by police the store manager allegedly tried to give her back the ripped currency

So wait, he (allegedly) attempted to return her money and she refused to accept it?


Seems the cop prevented future problems for the lady by having the store replace the bills. I would have asked for a stack of twenties myself. Nobody looks twice at twenties.
2012-09-16 04:11:17 PM
1 votes:

skinink: Who do they think they are, Taco Bell?


Apparently, they are 50 times BETTER than Taco Bell.
2012-09-16 04:09:46 PM
1 votes:
Little Hitlers are everywhere.
2012-09-16 04:02:07 PM
1 votes:
And those employees vote, too.
2012-09-16 04:00:52 PM
1 votes:
Why not just redirect fark.com to thedailymail.com on weekends to save people time?
ZAZ [TotalFark]
2012-09-16 02:24:38 PM
1 votes:
Julia Garcia is seeking no more than $74,900 in damages after detained for four hours before customers in San Antonio

That figure is intended to mean "I want this tried in state court, not federal court."

When Plaintiff objected to receiving torn bills, Officer Edwards instructed Manager Russell to replace the bills he had wrongfully taken and destroyed.

Our good cop story of the day. ("The day" being December 18, 2010.)
2012-09-16 02:09:37 PM
1 votes:
"Detained at the front of the store while told the police had been called, Ms Garcia claims that adding to her humiliation, the employees told curious customers in passing that she was busted trying to use fake money."

facepalm doesn't begin to describe this.
 
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