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2012-09-16 04:35:12 PM  

Oznog: 'At this time, he attempted to hand Plaintiff the two torn $100 bills he had misappropriated from her. When Plaintiff objected to receiving torn bills, Officer Edwards instructed Manager Russell to replace the bills he had wrongfully taken and destroyed.'

Ain't destroyed. As long as you have both halves taped together, it's legal tender worth $200. Any bank will take it.


Then they can tape them together and take them to bank so she doesn't have to put up with one more hassle. They are asshats and *should* be made to replace them for her.
 
2012-09-16 04:36:13 PM  

KingoftheCheese: Usually ethnic women are quite loud and opinionated when confronted by figures of authority.


"White American" isn't an ethnicity?

Foreign Connasewer: Racist much?


This.
 
2012-09-16 04:37:29 PM  

Farkenhostile: Why not just redirect fark.com to thedailymail.com on weekends to save people time?


This. Long time fark visitor (back to early '00s), registered today due to obscene number of daily fail links. When will I learn to look at the link before clicking through?
 
2012-09-16 04:38:11 PM  
Those counterfeit detection pens are bogus anyway. They just detect the presence of starch on a bill, which will detect a fake if that bill was printed on paper containing starch.

James Randi coats legit bills with spray starch and then spends them. I swear, between Randi and Wozniak with his pads of $2 bills... Well, they're going to ruin Walmart and Taco Bell, anyway.
 
2012-09-16 04:38:30 PM  

KingoftheCheese: Foreign Connasewer: KingoftheCheese: The manager was just doing his job. As a customer service representative, he was exercising his right to refuse service to anyone. And I'm willing to bet that this customer was less than calm. Usually ethnic women are quite loud and opinionated when confronted by figures of authority.

Racist much?

Not at all. I was just stating a fact.

I have a few ethnic friends and I enjoy their company from to time. I also enjoy Japanese food. You can't call me racist.


Some of my best friends are ethnic.
 
2012-09-16 04:40:16 PM  
it could have been worse...


She could have been beaten senseless
 
2012-09-16 04:40:30 PM  

KingoftheCheese: he manager was just doing his job. As a customer service representative, he was exercising his right to refuse service to anyone.


http://www.legalzoom.com/us-law/equal-rights/right-refuse-service

Dick.
 
2012-09-16 04:40:43 PM  
if they 'were' counterfeit, the authorities would have preferred them whole instead of ripped up.

someone went on a power trip.

i've spent some time recently in monterrey mexico for work and all my mexican colleagues spend the weekend in mcallen texas shopping at all sorts of places. except for some potential drug cartel stuff, monterrey is a beautiful town. really nice people that i met anyways.

never met anyone nice who worked at a walmart.
 
2012-09-16 04:40:47 PM  

ecmoRandomNumbers: I don't think Walmart has a single employee with a 3-digit IQ.


I think they have lots of employees with a single-digit IQ, though.
 
2012-09-16 04:41:24 PM  

Rapmaster2000


Some of my best friends are ethnic.


My grandfather was ethnic, so that makes me one-quarter ethnic.
 
2012-09-16 04:41:55 PM  
Tough crowd today.

I just stop trolling right now and let you guys get back to your discussions.
 
2012-09-16 04:42:11 PM  

PainfulItching: Rustblade: Since when are walmart pukes allowed to "detain" you?

When they are holding 200 bucks of your money and refuse to give it back. Not like I'm gonna leave until I get my money or my merchandise.


Check your state laws. They can "detain" shoplifters for x amount of time while the cops are called. Now in this case they were being stupid and probably broke a law and %100 policy.
 
2012-09-16 04:43:40 PM  

KingoftheCheese: I just stop trolling right now and let you guys get back to your discussions.


Ah. I see. The old "I was trolling you" defense. Well played, sir.
 
2012-09-16 04:45:14 PM  

AssAsInAssassin: KingoftheCheese: I just stop trolling right now and let you guys get back to your discussions.

Ah. I see. The old "I was trolling you" defense. Well played, sir.


It's what I do on the weekends. It just didn't work today. Sorry if I upset anyone.
 
2012-09-16 04:46:01 PM  
After two hours at the front, police arrived around 4.15am

That's some impressive response time there Lou.
 
2012-09-16 04:47:23 PM  
Article pic looks like the Walwart at the Military drive exit, off loop 410 on the west side. "A more wretched hive of scum and villany..."
 
2012-09-16 04:49:28 PM  

KingoftheCheese: Tough crowd today.

I just stop trolling right now and let you guys get back to your discussions.


You're not funny.
 
2012-09-16 04:50:04 PM  

Rustblade: Since when are walmart pukes allowed to "detain" you?


It get's better: http://foxnewsinsider.com/2011/11/25/watch-grandfather-tackled-by-cops -during-arizona-walmart-brawl/
 
2012-09-16 04:50:40 PM  

styckx: After two hours at the front, police arrived around 4.15am

That's some impressive response time there Lou.


especially with someone "detained" by "security"
 
2012-09-16 04:52:49 PM  

styckx: After two hours at the front, police arrived around 4.15am

That's some impressive response time there Lou.


That's like when I called the police to let them know that some guy just woke me up after breaking into my apartment and stealing a bunch of stuff (thankfully he ran when he got to my bedroom and saw me there). It took the cops 3-4 hours to show up and when they got there they said "Oh, we thought you said you'd already been robbed." I'm not really sure why that would mean they should take their time getting there... Anyway, after barely looking around and taking my statement, me providing a description of a guy I barely saw in my half asleep state, they left and then later accused me of staging the whole thing and stated that nothing was really stolen (only all of my mom's jewelry). I was 19 and in college in case you were wondering why I was living at home.
 
2012-09-16 04:55:07 PM  

Girion47: Oznog: 'At this time, he attempted to hand Plaintiff the two torn $100 bills he had misappropriated from her. When Plaintiff objected to receiving torn bills, Officer Edwards instructed Manager Russell to replace the bills he had wrongfully taken and destroyed.'

Ain't destroyed. As long as you have both halves taped together, it's legal tender worth $200. Any bank will take it.

You can also send it to the Bureau of Engraving and Printing in Washington DC, 14th and D SW. The lab will piece your bills back together and send you a check. This also works if you have a 2 ft sphere of cash that was buried in the yard. They'll take it apart and determine value.


2ft sphere of cash that was buried in the yard?!? This needs a CSB.
 
2012-09-16 04:59:48 PM  
Rustblade: Since when are walmart pukes allowed to "detain" you? 

since people started to allow themselves to be detained by any authority figure. this only includes the people who think of walmart managers as authority figures. (these are the people who got all dressed up because they weren't going to the dollar store)

also, this happened to me once, except that it was at planned parenthood and my $100 failed the marker test and it didn't get torn up. i took it to the bank the next day and they verified that it was legit. which was great, because something something huge sack of weed something corrupt new orleans contractors paying with counterfeits something something katrina something i was sweating it.
 
2012-09-16 05:01:04 PM  
Personally, I'd have pressed criminal charges against the manager and cashier for robbery at a minimum, kidnapping if I could.

If you forcibly take property from someone, the crime is robbery. It doesn't matter if you give the property you stole back after the fact, you're still guilty of robbery.

This just reinforces my opinion to never shop at wal-mart, ever, under any circumstance. I got a gift card to Wal-Mart a few years ago and I re-gifted it rather than have to step foot in there.
 
2012-09-16 05:04:21 PM  

xrayspx: Those counterfeit detection pens are bogus anyway. They just detect the presence of starch on a bill, which will detect a fake if that bill was printed on paper containing starch.

James Randi coats legit bills with spray starch and then spends them. I swear, between Randi and Wozniak with his pads of $2 bills... Well, they're going to ruin Walmart and Taco Bell, anyway.


I had a cashier at Walmart use the pen on my $1 dollar bills. I tried to explain it would cost more than $1 to make a fake but she didn't understand and thought I was try a fast one on her and carefully examined my quarter and pennies.
 
2012-09-16 05:07:27 PM  

Girion47: Oznog: 'At this time, he attempted to hand Plaintiff the two torn $100 bills he had misappropriated from her. When Plaintiff objected to receiving torn bills, Officer Edwards instructed Manager Russell to replace the bills he had wrongfully taken and destroyed.'

Ain't destroyed. As long as you have both halves taped together, it's legal tender worth $200. Any bank will take it.

You can also send it to the Bureau of Engraving and Printing in Washington DC, 14th and D SW. The lab will piece your bills back together and send you a check. This also works if you have a 2 ft sphere of cash that was buried in the yard. They'll take it apart and determine value.


I'm glad you provided that oddly specific example. I'm not sure if mine's worth more than watching the neighborhood hoodlums play dodgeball with it though.
 
2012-09-16 05:07:56 PM  

jat26006: styckx: After two hours at the front, police arrived around 4.15am

That's some impressive response time there Lou.

especially with someone "detained" by "security"


*sigh* Look up shopkeeper's privilege. Under just about every law in the land, storekeepers are allowed to detain someone suspected of theft for a reasonable amount of time in order to investigate it. Although nobody defines "reasonable" amount of time, the general rule in loss prevention is no more than 30 minutes. If the cops are going to take longer to arrive, you have to get the suspect's information and let them go, otherwise you're looking at false imprisonment.

Which is what I'd be considering were I in this lady's shoes. Also intentional infliction of emotional distress. She's got grounds for all kinds of fun tort claims, really.
 
2012-09-16 05:08:02 PM  

KingoftheCheese: The manager was just doing his job. As a customer service representative, he was exercising his right to refuse service to anyone. And I'm willing to bet that this customer was less than calm. Usually ethnic women are quite loud and opinionated when confronted by figures of authority.


She most likely earned those Benjamins working as a waitress at Hooters or some other establishment that objectifies women so she deserves a bit more respect from you.
 
2012-09-16 05:08:30 PM  

ecmoRandomNumbers: I don't think Walmart has a single employee with a 3-digit IQ.


People have this stereotypical image of the grocery store worker being a drooling power-hungry moron, but it's actually not a bad gig. I'm a store manager at a similar (albeit smaller) competitor of wal-mart, with two bachelor's degrees from a state university. It's decent money, benefits, etc. Sure, I never envisioned myself arguing with fools about the price of cheese for a living, but no one (and I mean nobody) intends to make a career out of retail grocery. Just kinda happens. And my staff is about like any other...a few shining stars, mostly normal people, and a few fnucking morons.
 
2012-09-16 05:08:35 PM  

clyph: Personally, I'd have pressed criminal charges against the manager and cashier for robbery at a minimum, kidnapping if I could.

If you forcibly take property from someone, the crime is robbery. It doesn't matter if you give the property you stole back after the fact, you're still guilty of robbery.

This just reinforces my opinion to never shop at wal-mart, ever, under any circumstance. I got a gift card to Wal-Mart a few years ago and I re-gifted it rather than have to step foot in there.


false imprisonment. both a criminal and a civil offense.

"The illegal confinement of one individual against his or her will by another individual in such a manner as to violate the confined individual's right to be free from restraint of movement."

also, robbery, like you said. but false imprisonment is bigger and will get you more money in civil court.

(and this ends today's episode of "ask an ex-shoplifter who knew what he was doing".)
 
2012-09-16 05:10:26 PM  

KingoftheCheese: AssAsInAssassin: KingoftheCheese: I just stop trolling right now and let you guys get back to your discussions.

Ah. I see. The old "I was trolling you" defense. Well played, sir.

It's what I do on the weekends. It just didn't work today. Sorry if I upset anyone.


You did better last night. If the topic was tits and folks were drunk you'd have more bites.
 
2012-09-16 05:15:52 PM  
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Thank goodness for the cop. My worst nightmare is that something like this happens to me, and everyone involved is too dumb to realize they're all wrong.
 
2012-09-16 05:19:23 PM  

Makh: And those employees vote, too.


Scariest damn thing I've read all week. Thanks...
 
2012-09-16 05:20:34 PM  

Farkenhostile: Why not just redirect fark.com to thedailymail.com on weekends to save people time?


No, don't do that.
If Fark were nothing but Daily Fail. I wouldn't even bother.
As it stands you have a 1-in-4 chance of reading a link that isn't DF.
Would be nice though if DF didn't get an auto green when the others don't stand much of a chance.

Boycott Daily Fail links!!!
 
2012-09-16 05:21:04 PM  

xrayspx: Those counterfeit detection pens are bogus anyway. They just detect the presence of starch on a bill, which will detect a fake if that bill was printed on paper containing starch.

James Randi coats legit bills with spray starch and then spends them. I swear, between Randi and Wozniak with his pads of $2 bills... Well, they're going to ruin Walmart and Taco Bell, anyway.


I had to look up James Randi on Wikipedia. Awesome guy!
 
2012-09-16 05:21:11 PM  

Dahnkster: [desmond.imageshack.us image 500x444]

Maybe Russell the manager was trying to 'make it rain'


Someone censored his middle finger but not the fact he was shirtless with areolas the size of CDs?
 
2012-09-16 05:21:40 PM  

spunkymunky: KingoftheCheese: AssAsInAssassin: KingoftheCheese: I just stop trolling right now and let you guys get back to your discussions.

Ah. I see. The old "I was trolling you" defense. Well played, sir.

It's what I do on the weekends. It just didn't work today. Sorry if I upset anyone.

You did better last night. If the topic was tits and folks were drunk you'd have more bites.


Yeah. I'm a little busy right now, so my heart isn't 100% in it.
 
2012-09-16 05:22:09 PM  

mdskd: Farkenhostile: Why not just redirect fark.com to thedailymail.com on weekends to save people time?

This. Long time fark visitor (back to early '00s), registered today due to obscene number of daily fail links. When will I learn to look at the link before clicking through?


So you signed up for Fark just do you could come into a thread to complain about the link? You some kind of moran?
 
2012-09-16 05:22:52 PM  
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2012-09-16 05:26:29 PM  
I used to work in a casino (in IT, not money handler) and they gave classes on identifying bills.
It's absurdly easy for 99.9% of counterfeits. (or rather to check for them)
Feel the paper. (You've felt money before right?)
Look at the bill. Look for blue/green threads.
Flip the bill, denomination match both sides?
Tilt the bill and look for the color change on the seal on the front side.
Hold it up to the light and look for the water mark, and the mylar thread (with the correct denomination)

The pen is for idiots.
 
2012-09-16 05:29:11 PM  

Rapmaster2000: KingoftheCheese: Foreign Connasewer: KingoftheCheese: The manager was just doing his job. As a customer service representative, he was exercising his right to refuse service to anyone. And I'm willing to bet that this customer was less than calm. Usually ethnic women are quite loud and opinionated when confronted by figures of authority.

Racist much?

Not at all. I was just stating a fact.

I have a few ethnic friends and I enjoy their company from to time. I also enjoy Japanese food. You can't call me racist.

Some of my best friends are ethnic.


My neighbors are Mexican and they cut our grass sometimes. I'm sure it was profiling that made the police kick their door in and arrest their son on a weapons charge. He was doing such a great job as a teen parent.
 
2012-09-16 05:30:36 PM  

DownDaRiver: What the hell is with the Daily Fail greens today?
Is it just automatic?
Are any of the stories actually brit in origin?


American submitters are unionized, get weekends off.
 
2012-09-16 05:32:24 PM  
Also the mylar strip is in a different place for each denomination.
(Ever wonder how a blind person can tell a five from a twenty?)
 
2012-09-16 05:33:37 PM  

Spirit Hammer


The pen is for idiots.


*sigh*

The pen also removes the cashier's judgment (and eyesight) from the equation, while making it very obvious that the person passing the bill must clear a non-subjective hurdle in order to pass the fake bill. 

As an anti-fraud mechanism, the pen is mightier.
 
2012-09-16 05:33:43 PM  

Spirit Hammer: I used to work in a casino (in IT, not money handler) and they gave classes on identifying bills.
It's absurdly easy for 99.9% of counterfeits. (or rather to check for them)
Feel the paper. (You've felt money before right?)
Look at the bill. Look for blue/green threads.
Flip the bill, denomination match both sides?
Tilt the bill and look for the color change on the seal on the front side.
Hold it up to the light and look for the water mark, and the mylar thread (with the correct denomination)

The pen is for idiots.


True. I'm not a money handler, and even I, can reach into my pocket and tell without looking whether it's money, or regular paper.
 
2012-09-16 05:35:12 PM  
butt fark
 
2012-09-16 05:36:32 PM  

Oznog: 'At this time, he attempted to hand Plaintiff the two torn $100 bills he had misappropriated from her. When Plaintiff objected to receiving torn bills, Officer Edwards instructed Manager Russell to replace the bills he had wrongfully taken and destroyed.'

Ain't destroyed. As long as you have both halves taped together, it's legal tender worth $200. Any bank will take it.


But a Walmart won't, and that's where she wanted to spend it
 
2012-09-16 05:36:48 PM  

Englebert Slaptyback: Spirit Hammer

The pen is for idiots.


*sigh*

The pen also removes the cashier's judgment (and eyesight) from the equation, while making it very obvious that the person passing the bill must clear a non-subjective hurdle in order to pass the fake bill. 

As an anti-fraud mechanism, the pen is mightier.


No, as an anti-fraud mechanism, the eye is still better. The pen is an anti-litigation mechanism, because the forger or fraudster can't claim "reasonable doubt". But if a counterfeit bill is so good it passes the eyeball test, then it's probably either real or the pen won't catch it anyway.
 
2012-09-16 05:37:10 PM  
One of the reasons cases like this go to lawsuit isn't for the money involved. If Walmart has done nothing to discipline or coach these people, well, it ensures that they get fired. Corporate can be numbingly indifferent right up to the point that they realize that they've employed a liability. A settlement will be reached, and involve pink slips. The time delay can be attributed to how long she's been getting the runaround by Corporate.
 
2012-09-16 05:38:35 PM  

Spirit Hammer: The pen is for idiots.


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2012-09-16 05:39:11 PM  

Englebert Slaptyback: As an anti-fraud mechanism, the pen is mightier.


But does it work??
 
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