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2012-09-16 01:45:38 PM
The employee proceeded to call a manager over who identified himself as Russell. At this time Ms Garcia said she took out a second $100 bill, which according to her, was immediately taken and ripped up as well by the man.

That's almost hilarious.
 
2012-09-16 01:50:56 PM
I don't think Walmart has a single employee with a 3-digit IQ.
 
2012-09-16 02:09:28 PM
Manager Russell approached Plaintiff and sarcastically stated that the police officers said the money was not counterfeit, though he disagreed.

DO NOT confuse me with the facts, madam. I AM THE MANAGER OF A FARKING WALMART!

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2012-09-16 02:09:37 PM
"Detained at the front of the store while told the police had been called, Ms Garcia claims that adding to her humiliation, the employees told curious customers in passing that she was busted trying to use fake money."

facepalm doesn't begin to describe this.
 
2012-09-16 02:21:19 PM
Admittedly, we are a sue-happy culture, but I think the woman's got a totally legitimate complaint, here. The store detained her and humiliated her in front of other employees and customers. That sounds like cause for compensation to me.
 
ZAZ [TotalFark]
2012-09-16 02:24:38 PM
Julia Garcia is seeking no more than $74,900 in damages after detained for four hours before customers in San Antonio

That figure is intended to mean "I want this tried in state court, not federal court."

When Plaintiff objected to receiving torn bills, Officer Edwards instructed Manager Russell to replace the bills he had wrongfully taken and destroyed.

Our good cop story of the day. ("The day" being December 18, 2010.)
 
2012-09-16 02:37:51 PM

E-Brake: "Detained at the front of the store while told the police had been called, Ms Garcia claims that adding to her humiliation, the employees told curious customers in passing that she was busted trying to use fake money."

facepalm doesn't begin to describe this.


Yeah, that's seriously f*cked up.
 
2012-09-16 02:51:14 PM
Using large bills while Mexican at WalMart? That's a detainin'.
 
2012-09-16 03:00:14 PM

xiaodown: Admittedly, we are a sue-happy culture, but I think the woman's got a totally legitimate complaint, here. The store detained her and humiliated her in front of other employees and customers. That sounds like cause for compensation to me.


Seriously. They kept her until after 5 in the morning.
 
2012-09-16 03:11:38 PM

ecmoRandomNumbers: I don't think Walmart has a single employee with a 3-digit IQ.


They do, but usually they graduate from college and leave.
 
2012-09-16 04:00:52 PM
Why not just redirect fark.com to thedailymail.com on weekends to save people time?
 
2012-09-16 04:02:07 PM
And those employees vote, too.
 
2012-09-16 04:02:19 PM
Who do they think they are, Taco Bell?
 
2012-09-16 04:03:19 PM
'At this time, he attempted to hand Plaintiff the two torn $100 bills he had misappropriated from her. When Plaintiff objected to receiving torn bills, Officer Edwards instructed Manager Russell to replace the bills he had wrongfully taken and destroyed.'

Ain't destroyed. As long as you have both halves taped together, it's legal tender worth $200. Any bank will take it.
 
2012-09-16 04:05:47 PM

make me some tea: The employee proceeded to call a manager over who identified himself as Russell. At this time Ms Garcia said she took out a second $100 bill, which according to her, was immediately taken and ripped up as well by the man.

That's almost hilarious.


I would have paid a dollar to see it.
 
2012-09-16 04:05:55 PM
I think this is one instance where a big fat lawsuit is needed. Normally, I don't approve of people suing for every little thing but this incident is beyond ridiculous.
 
2012-09-16 04:06:11 PM
Good thing that she didn't try to use two dollar bills.
 
2012-09-16 04:06:39 PM
The bills can be taped back together and used, but I would have demanded replacements as well.
 
2012-09-16 04:08:12 PM

Oznog: 'At this time, he attempted to hand Plaintiff the two torn $100 bills he had misappropriated from her. When Plaintiff objected to receiving torn bills, Officer Edwards instructed Manager Russell to replace the bills he had wrongfully taken and destroyed.'

Ain't destroyed. As long as you have both halves taped together, it's legal tender worth $200. Any bank will take it.


You can also send it to the Bureau of Engraving and Printing in Washington DC, 14th and D SW. The lab will piece your bills back together and send you a check. This also works if you have a 2 ft sphere of cash that was buried in the yard. They'll take it apart and determine value.
 
2012-09-16 04:09:22 PM

Oznog: 'At this time, he attempted to hand Plaintiff the two torn $100 bills he had misappropriated from her. When Plaintiff objected to receiving torn bills, Officer Edwards instructed Manager Russell to replace the bills he had wrongfully taken and destroyed.'

Ain't destroyed. As long as you have both halves taped together, it's legal tender worth $200. Any bank will take it.


Wal-Mart is free to instruct employees to deliver the repaired bills to a bank, after providing the falsely accused customer with undamaged currency.
 
2012-09-16 04:09:23 PM
She should be suing the store for slander as well. Accusing me of a federal crime I didn't commit could seriously tarnish my character and cost future jobs that require a position of public trust clearance.
 
2012-09-16 04:09:43 PM
After the bills were found legal by police the store manager allegedly tried to give her back the ripped currency

So wait, he (allegedly) attempted to return her money and she refused to accept it?
 
2012-09-16 04:09:46 PM
Little Hitlers are everywhere.
 
2012-09-16 04:10:46 PM

Oznog: 'At this time, he attempted to hand Plaintiff the two torn $100 bills he had misappropriated from her. When Plaintiff objected to receiving torn bills, Officer Edwards instructed Manager Russell to replace the bills he had wrongfully taken and destroyed.'

Ain't destroyed. As long as you have both halves taped together, it's legal tender worth $200. Any bank will take it.


True but the Walmart employee ripped them, he can go though the hassle of taking it to the bank.

I'm all for making the employee's involved wear a sign for the same amount of time and place that she was detained that says "I'm a farking moron" with other employees telling the customers the back story.
 
2012-09-16 04:11:17 PM

skinink: Who do they think they are, Taco Bell?


Apparently, they are 50 times BETTER than Taco Bell.
 
2012-09-16 04:11:47 PM

Dimensio: Oznog: 'At this time, he attempted to hand Plaintiff the two torn $100 bills he had misappropriated from her. When Plaintiff objected to receiving torn bills, Officer Edwards instructed Manager Russell to replace the bills he had wrongfully taken and destroyed.'

Ain't destroyed. As long as you have both halves taped together, it's legal tender worth $200. Any bank will take it.

Wal-Mart is free to instruct employees to deliver the repaired bills to a bank, after providing the falsely accused customer with undamaged currency.


Damn it, you beat me to it and said it better.
 
2012-09-16 04:13:09 PM
What the hell is with the Daily Fail greens today?
Is it just automatic?
Are any of the stories actually brit in origin?
 
2012-09-16 04:13:55 PM
FTFA: "It was in the early hours of December 18, 2010..."

Cue: oldnewsissoexciting.jpg
 
2012-09-16 04:15:20 PM

ultraholland: After the bills were found legal by police the store manager allegedly tried to give her back the ripped currency

So wait, he (allegedly) attempted to return her money and she refused to accept it?


Seems the cop prevented future problems for the lady by having the store replace the bills. I would have asked for a stack of twenties myself. Nobody looks twice at twenties.
 
2012-09-16 04:15:48 PM
"We don't accept $100 bills at Wal-Mart. If you have $100 you have to go to Target."
 
2012-09-16 04:16:11 PM

ultraholland: After the bills were found legal by police the store manager allegedly tried to give her back the ripped currency

So wait, he (allegedly) attempted to return her money and she refused to accept it?


He (apparently) still thought it wasn't real money. So he was attempting to pass counterfeit currency when he tried to return those bills. Arrest him!
 
2012-09-16 04:16:20 PM

ZAZ: When Plaintiff objected to receiving torn bills, Officer Edwards instructed Manager Russell to replace the bills he had wrongfully taken and destroyed.

Our good cop story of the day. ("The day" being December 18, 2010.)


Would've been a better cop story of the cop took the destroyed bills as evidence for the Treasury Department, in case they want to make an issue of the defacing of currency...



Defacement of currency is a violation of Title 18, Section 333 of the United States Code. Under this provision, currency defacement is generally defined as follows: Whoever mutilates, cuts, disfigures, perforates, unites or cements together, or does any other thing to any bank bill, draft, note, or other evidence of debt issued by any national banking association, Federal Reserve Bank, or Federal Reserve System, with intent to render such item(s) unfit to be reissued, shall be fined under this title or imprisoned not more than six months, or both.


Pretty clearly, the intent was to render it unfit for circulation, but I imagine the treasury would "reissue" them, as they will when you return 51% or more of a note...
 
2012-09-16 04:17:13 PM
It's actually pretty common for minorities to pay with cash seeing that they don't have bank accounts. Stupid manager should know better.
 
2012-09-16 04:17:38 PM

Girion47: She should be suing the store for slander as well. Accusing me of a federal crime I didn't commit could seriously tarnish my character and cost future jobs that require a position of public trust clearance.


She was shopping at Walmart; her character was already pretty damaged by that.
 
2012-09-16 04:18:07 PM

AbbeySomeone: Using large bills while Mexican at WalMart? That's a detainin'.


live close to the border. Noticed recently that 80% of Target's customers are Hispanic in appearance and use cash only, as in large amounts of cash in large denominations. Having taken large amounts of cash across international borders (legally, mind you) $100 bills make a smallish lump in the money belt and are still spendable. Walmart needs to retrain their employees about how not to alienate their cash carrying customers.
 
2012-09-16 04:18:44 PM

Girion47: She should be suing the store for slander as well. Accusing me of a federal crime I didn't commit could seriously tarnish my character and cost future jobs that require a position of public trust clearance.


Not simply accusing her, but "the employees told curious customers in passing that she was busted trying to use fake money."

Yeup: sue for defamation/slander.
 
2012-09-16 04:19:22 PM

lohphat: FTFA: "It was in the early hours of December 18, 2010..."

Cue: oldnewsissoexciting.jpg


It got media attention when she filed the suit several days ago.

"Ms Garcia, who said she was escorted out to her car by the officer around 5am, filed her complaint for false imprisonment and intentional infliction of emotional distress against the store on September 9."
 
2012-09-16 04:19:28 PM
Since when are walmart pukes allowed to "detain" you?
 
2012-09-16 04:21:07 PM

Satanic_Hamster: Good thing that she didn't try to use two dollar bills.


still use them now and then and people still think they are fakes
 
2012-09-16 04:22:15 PM

Rustblade: Since when are walmart pukes allowed to "detain" you?


When they are holding 200 bucks of your money and refuse to give it back. Not like I'm gonna leave until I get my money or my merchandise.
 
2012-09-16 04:22:46 PM
The manager was just doing his job. As a customer service representative, he was exercising his right to refuse service to anyone. And I'm willing to bet that this customer was less than calm. Usually ethnic women are quite loud and opinionated when confronted by figures of authority.
 
2012-09-16 04:24:41 PM

Queensowntalia: lohphat: FTFA: "It was in the early hours of December 18, 2010..."

Cue: oldnewsissoexciting.jpg

It got media attention when she filed the suit several days ago.

"Ms Garcia, who said she was escorted out to her car by the officer around 5am, filed her complaint for false imprisonment and intentional infliction of emotional distress against the store on September 9."


My guess is that Walmart tried to do some sort of arbitration/mediation about this, tried to screw her in that too, and she rejected the offer and is now taking it to court. That would explain the long delay between this incident and the lawsuit.
 
2012-09-16 04:25:54 PM

KingoftheCheese: The manager was just doing his job. As a customer service representative, he was exercising his right to refuse service to anyone. And I'm willing to bet that this customer was less than calm. Usually ethnic women are quite loud and opinionated when confronted by figures of authority.


You don't get much less "ethnic" to me, but I would be "quite loud and opinionated" if some moron ripped up a $100 bill I gave them without checking it out because they were sure it was counterfeit.

But that probably wouldn't happen to me, if you follow my drift here.
 
2012-09-16 04:26:57 PM

KingoftheCheese: The manager was just doing his job. As a customer service representative, he was exercising his right to refuse service to anyone. And I'm willing to bet that this customer was less than calm. Usually ethnic women are quite loud and opinionated when confronted by figures of authority.


Racist much?
 
2012-09-16 04:27:34 PM
"The fact that the two $100 bills carried the same serial number is purely coincidental"
 
2012-09-16 04:28:05 PM

KingoftheCheese: The manager was just doing his job. As a customer service representative, he was exercising his right to refuse service to anyone. And I'm willing to bet that this customer was less than calm. Usually ethnic women are quite loud and opinionated when confronted by figures of authority.


There's always one... as in 1/10.
 
2012-09-16 04:29:51 PM

Foreign Connasewer: KingoftheCheese: The manager was just doing his job. As a customer service representative, he was exercising his right to refuse service to anyone. And I'm willing to bet that this customer was less than calm. Usually ethnic women are quite loud and opinionated when confronted by figures of authority.

Racist much?


Not at all. I was just stating a fact.

I have a few ethnic friends and I enjoy their company from to time. I also enjoy Japanese food. You can't call me racist.
 
2012-09-16 04:30:41 PM
Always the low road... always.
 
2012-09-16 04:33:18 PM
You know how many times the idiot behind the register holds a bill up to the light and has no clue what they're looking for? It's a farking vertical strip with the amount of the bill written on it. It's so god damned easy, it should take no more than 2 seconds.
 
2012-09-16 04:34:20 PM

basemetal: ecmoRandomNumbers: I don't think Walmart has a single employee with a 3-digit IQ.

They do, but usually they graduate from college and leave.


That, it pays the bills while in school.
 
2012-09-16 04:35:12 PM

Oznog: 'At this time, he attempted to hand Plaintiff the two torn $100 bills he had misappropriated from her. When Plaintiff objected to receiving torn bills, Officer Edwards instructed Manager Russell to replace the bills he had wrongfully taken and destroyed.'

Ain't destroyed. As long as you have both halves taped together, it's legal tender worth $200. Any bank will take it.


Then they can tape them together and take them to bank so she doesn't have to put up with one more hassle. They are asshats and *should* be made to replace them for her.
 
2012-09-16 04:36:13 PM

KingoftheCheese: Usually ethnic women are quite loud and opinionated when confronted by figures of authority.


"White American" isn't an ethnicity?

Foreign Connasewer: Racist much?


This.
 
2012-09-16 04:37:29 PM

Farkenhostile: Why not just redirect fark.com to thedailymail.com on weekends to save people time?


This. Long time fark visitor (back to early '00s), registered today due to obscene number of daily fail links. When will I learn to look at the link before clicking through?
 
2012-09-16 04:38:11 PM
Those counterfeit detection pens are bogus anyway. They just detect the presence of starch on a bill, which will detect a fake if that bill was printed on paper containing starch.

James Randi coats legit bills with spray starch and then spends them. I swear, between Randi and Wozniak with his pads of $2 bills... Well, they're going to ruin Walmart and Taco Bell, anyway.
 
2012-09-16 04:38:30 PM

KingoftheCheese: Foreign Connasewer: KingoftheCheese: The manager was just doing his job. As a customer service representative, he was exercising his right to refuse service to anyone. And I'm willing to bet that this customer was less than calm. Usually ethnic women are quite loud and opinionated when confronted by figures of authority.

Racist much?

Not at all. I was just stating a fact.

I have a few ethnic friends and I enjoy their company from to time. I also enjoy Japanese food. You can't call me racist.


Some of my best friends are ethnic.
 
2012-09-16 04:40:16 PM
it could have been worse...


She could have been beaten senseless
 
2012-09-16 04:40:30 PM

KingoftheCheese: he manager was just doing his job. As a customer service representative, he was exercising his right to refuse service to anyone.


http://www.legalzoom.com/us-law/equal-rights/right-refuse-service

Dick.
 
2012-09-16 04:40:43 PM
if they 'were' counterfeit, the authorities would have preferred them whole instead of ripped up.

someone went on a power trip.

i've spent some time recently in monterrey mexico for work and all my mexican colleagues spend the weekend in mcallen texas shopping at all sorts of places. except for some potential drug cartel stuff, monterrey is a beautiful town. really nice people that i met anyways.

never met anyone nice who worked at a walmart.
 
2012-09-16 04:40:47 PM

ecmoRandomNumbers: I don't think Walmart has a single employee with a 3-digit IQ.


I think they have lots of employees with a single-digit IQ, though.
 
2012-09-16 04:41:24 PM

Rapmaster2000


Some of my best friends are ethnic.


My grandfather was ethnic, so that makes me one-quarter ethnic.
 
2012-09-16 04:41:55 PM
Tough crowd today.

I just stop trolling right now and let you guys get back to your discussions.
 
2012-09-16 04:42:11 PM

PainfulItching: Rustblade: Since when are walmart pukes allowed to "detain" you?

When they are holding 200 bucks of your money and refuse to give it back. Not like I'm gonna leave until I get my money or my merchandise.


Check your state laws. They can "detain" shoplifters for x amount of time while the cops are called. Now in this case they were being stupid and probably broke a law and %100 policy.
 
2012-09-16 04:43:40 PM

KingoftheCheese: I just stop trolling right now and let you guys get back to your discussions.


Ah. I see. The old "I was trolling you" defense. Well played, sir.
 
2012-09-16 04:45:14 PM

AssAsInAssassin: KingoftheCheese: I just stop trolling right now and let you guys get back to your discussions.

Ah. I see. The old "I was trolling you" defense. Well played, sir.


It's what I do on the weekends. It just didn't work today. Sorry if I upset anyone.
 
2012-09-16 04:46:01 PM
After two hours at the front, police arrived around 4.15am

That's some impressive response time there Lou.
 
2012-09-16 04:47:23 PM
Article pic looks like the Walwart at the Military drive exit, off loop 410 on the west side. "A more wretched hive of scum and villany..."
 
2012-09-16 04:49:28 PM

KingoftheCheese: Tough crowd today.

I just stop trolling right now and let you guys get back to your discussions.


You're not funny.
 
2012-09-16 04:50:04 PM

Rustblade: Since when are walmart pukes allowed to "detain" you?


It get's better: http://foxnewsinsider.com/2011/11/25/watch-grandfather-tackled-by-cops -during-arizona-walmart-brawl/
 
2012-09-16 04:50:40 PM

styckx: After two hours at the front, police arrived around 4.15am

That's some impressive response time there Lou.


especially with someone "detained" by "security"
 
2012-09-16 04:52:49 PM

styckx: After two hours at the front, police arrived around 4.15am

That's some impressive response time there Lou.


That's like when I called the police to let them know that some guy just woke me up after breaking into my apartment and stealing a bunch of stuff (thankfully he ran when he got to my bedroom and saw me there). It took the cops 3-4 hours to show up and when they got there they said "Oh, we thought you said you'd already been robbed." I'm not really sure why that would mean they should take their time getting there... Anyway, after barely looking around and taking my statement, me providing a description of a guy I barely saw in my half asleep state, they left and then later accused me of staging the whole thing and stated that nothing was really stolen (only all of my mom's jewelry). I was 19 and in college in case you were wondering why I was living at home.
 
2012-09-16 04:55:07 PM

Girion47: Oznog: 'At this time, he attempted to hand Plaintiff the two torn $100 bills he had misappropriated from her. When Plaintiff objected to receiving torn bills, Officer Edwards instructed Manager Russell to replace the bills he had wrongfully taken and destroyed.'

Ain't destroyed. As long as you have both halves taped together, it's legal tender worth $200. Any bank will take it.

You can also send it to the Bureau of Engraving and Printing in Washington DC, 14th and D SW. The lab will piece your bills back together and send you a check. This also works if you have a 2 ft sphere of cash that was buried in the yard. They'll take it apart and determine value.


2ft sphere of cash that was buried in the yard?!? This needs a CSB.
 
2012-09-16 04:59:48 PM
Rustblade: Since when are walmart pukes allowed to "detain" you? 

since people started to allow themselves to be detained by any authority figure. this only includes the people who think of walmart managers as authority figures. (these are the people who got all dressed up because they weren't going to the dollar store)

also, this happened to me once, except that it was at planned parenthood and my $100 failed the marker test and it didn't get torn up. i took it to the bank the next day and they verified that it was legit. which was great, because something something huge sack of weed something corrupt new orleans contractors paying with counterfeits something something katrina something i was sweating it.
 
2012-09-16 05:01:04 PM
Personally, I'd have pressed criminal charges against the manager and cashier for robbery at a minimum, kidnapping if I could.

If you forcibly take property from someone, the crime is robbery. It doesn't matter if you give the property you stole back after the fact, you're still guilty of robbery.

This just reinforces my opinion to never shop at wal-mart, ever, under any circumstance. I got a gift card to Wal-Mart a few years ago and I re-gifted it rather than have to step foot in there.
 
2012-09-16 05:04:21 PM

xrayspx: Those counterfeit detection pens are bogus anyway. They just detect the presence of starch on a bill, which will detect a fake if that bill was printed on paper containing starch.

James Randi coats legit bills with spray starch and then spends them. I swear, between Randi and Wozniak with his pads of $2 bills... Well, they're going to ruin Walmart and Taco Bell, anyway.


I had a cashier at Walmart use the pen on my $1 dollar bills. I tried to explain it would cost more than $1 to make a fake but she didn't understand and thought I was try a fast one on her and carefully examined my quarter and pennies.
 
2012-09-16 05:07:27 PM

Girion47: Oznog: 'At this time, he attempted to hand Plaintiff the two torn $100 bills he had misappropriated from her. When Plaintiff objected to receiving torn bills, Officer Edwards instructed Manager Russell to replace the bills he had wrongfully taken and destroyed.'

Ain't destroyed. As long as you have both halves taped together, it's legal tender worth $200. Any bank will take it.

You can also send it to the Bureau of Engraving and Printing in Washington DC, 14th and D SW. The lab will piece your bills back together and send you a check. This also works if you have a 2 ft sphere of cash that was buried in the yard. They'll take it apart and determine value.


I'm glad you provided that oddly specific example. I'm not sure if mine's worth more than watching the neighborhood hoodlums play dodgeball with it though.
 
2012-09-16 05:07:56 PM

jat26006: styckx: After two hours at the front, police arrived around 4.15am

That's some impressive response time there Lou.

especially with someone "detained" by "security"


*sigh* Look up shopkeeper's privilege. Under just about every law in the land, storekeepers are allowed to detain someone suspected of theft for a reasonable amount of time in order to investigate it. Although nobody defines "reasonable" amount of time, the general rule in loss prevention is no more than 30 minutes. If the cops are going to take longer to arrive, you have to get the suspect's information and let them go, otherwise you're looking at false imprisonment.

Which is what I'd be considering were I in this lady's shoes. Also intentional infliction of emotional distress. She's got grounds for all kinds of fun tort claims, really.
 
2012-09-16 05:08:02 PM

KingoftheCheese: The manager was just doing his job. As a customer service representative, he was exercising his right to refuse service to anyone. And I'm willing to bet that this customer was less than calm. Usually ethnic women are quite loud and opinionated when confronted by figures of authority.


She most likely earned those Benjamins working as a waitress at Hooters or some other establishment that objectifies women so she deserves a bit more respect from you.
 
2012-09-16 05:08:30 PM

ecmoRandomNumbers: I don't think Walmart has a single employee with a 3-digit IQ.


People have this stereotypical image of the grocery store worker being a drooling power-hungry moron, but it's actually not a bad gig. I'm a store manager at a similar (albeit smaller) competitor of wal-mart, with two bachelor's degrees from a state university. It's decent money, benefits, etc. Sure, I never envisioned myself arguing with fools about the price of cheese for a living, but no one (and I mean nobody) intends to make a career out of retail grocery. Just kinda happens. And my staff is about like any other...a few shining stars, mostly normal people, and a few fnucking morons.
 
2012-09-16 05:08:35 PM

clyph: Personally, I'd have pressed criminal charges against the manager and cashier for robbery at a minimum, kidnapping if I could.

If you forcibly take property from someone, the crime is robbery. It doesn't matter if you give the property you stole back after the fact, you're still guilty of robbery.

This just reinforces my opinion to never shop at wal-mart, ever, under any circumstance. I got a gift card to Wal-Mart a few years ago and I re-gifted it rather than have to step foot in there.


false imprisonment. both a criminal and a civil offense.

"The illegal confinement of one individual against his or her will by another individual in such a manner as to violate the confined individual's right to be free from restraint of movement."

also, robbery, like you said. but false imprisonment is bigger and will get you more money in civil court.

(and this ends today's episode of "ask an ex-shoplifter who knew what he was doing".)
 
2012-09-16 05:10:26 PM

KingoftheCheese: AssAsInAssassin: KingoftheCheese: I just stop trolling right now and let you guys get back to your discussions.

Ah. I see. The old "I was trolling you" defense. Well played, sir.

It's what I do on the weekends. It just didn't work today. Sorry if I upset anyone.


You did better last night. If the topic was tits and folks were drunk you'd have more bites.
 
2012-09-16 05:15:52 PM
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Thank goodness for the cop. My worst nightmare is that something like this happens to me, and everyone involved is too dumb to realize they're all wrong.
 
2012-09-16 05:19:23 PM

Makh: And those employees vote, too.


Scariest damn thing I've read all week. Thanks...
 
2012-09-16 05:20:34 PM

Farkenhostile: Why not just redirect fark.com to thedailymail.com on weekends to save people time?


No, don't do that.
If Fark were nothing but Daily Fail. I wouldn't even bother.
As it stands you have a 1-in-4 chance of reading a link that isn't DF.
Would be nice though if DF didn't get an auto green when the others don't stand much of a chance.

Boycott Daily Fail links!!!
 
2012-09-16 05:21:04 PM

xrayspx: Those counterfeit detection pens are bogus anyway. They just detect the presence of starch on a bill, which will detect a fake if that bill was printed on paper containing starch.

James Randi coats legit bills with spray starch and then spends them. I swear, between Randi and Wozniak with his pads of $2 bills... Well, they're going to ruin Walmart and Taco Bell, anyway.


I had to look up James Randi on Wikipedia. Awesome guy!
 
2012-09-16 05:21:11 PM

Dahnkster: [desmond.imageshack.us image 500x444]

Maybe Russell the manager was trying to 'make it rain'


Someone censored his middle finger but not the fact he was shirtless with areolas the size of CDs?
 
2012-09-16 05:21:40 PM

spunkymunky: KingoftheCheese: AssAsInAssassin: KingoftheCheese: I just stop trolling right now and let you guys get back to your discussions.

Ah. I see. The old "I was trolling you" defense. Well played, sir.

It's what I do on the weekends. It just didn't work today. Sorry if I upset anyone.

You did better last night. If the topic was tits and folks were drunk you'd have more bites.


Yeah. I'm a little busy right now, so my heart isn't 100% in it.
 
2012-09-16 05:22:09 PM

mdskd: Farkenhostile: Why not just redirect fark.com to thedailymail.com on weekends to save people time?

This. Long time fark visitor (back to early '00s), registered today due to obscene number of daily fail links. When will I learn to look at the link before clicking through?


So you signed up for Fark just do you could come into a thread to complain about the link? You some kind of moran?
 
2012-09-16 05:22:52 PM
Hi y'all! Remember me?
imageshack.us
 
2012-09-16 05:26:29 PM
I used to work in a casino (in IT, not money handler) and they gave classes on identifying bills.
It's absurdly easy for 99.9% of counterfeits. (or rather to check for them)
Feel the paper. (You've felt money before right?)
Look at the bill. Look for blue/green threads.
Flip the bill, denomination match both sides?
Tilt the bill and look for the color change on the seal on the front side.
Hold it up to the light and look for the water mark, and the mylar thread (with the correct denomination)

The pen is for idiots.
 
2012-09-16 05:29:11 PM

Rapmaster2000: KingoftheCheese: Foreign Connasewer: KingoftheCheese: The manager was just doing his job. As a customer service representative, he was exercising his right to refuse service to anyone. And I'm willing to bet that this customer was less than calm. Usually ethnic women are quite loud and opinionated when confronted by figures of authority.

Racist much?

Not at all. I was just stating a fact.

I have a few ethnic friends and I enjoy their company from to time. I also enjoy Japanese food. You can't call me racist.

Some of my best friends are ethnic.


My neighbors are Mexican and they cut our grass sometimes. I'm sure it was profiling that made the police kick their door in and arrest their son on a weapons charge. He was doing such a great job as a teen parent.
 
2012-09-16 05:30:36 PM

DownDaRiver: What the hell is with the Daily Fail greens today?
Is it just automatic?
Are any of the stories actually brit in origin?


American submitters are unionized, get weekends off.
 
2012-09-16 05:32:24 PM
Also the mylar strip is in a different place for each denomination.
(Ever wonder how a blind person can tell a five from a twenty?)
 
2012-09-16 05:33:37 PM

Spirit Hammer


The pen is for idiots.


*sigh*

The pen also removes the cashier's judgment (and eyesight) from the equation, while making it very obvious that the person passing the bill must clear a non-subjective hurdle in order to pass the fake bill. 

As an anti-fraud mechanism, the pen is mightier.
 
2012-09-16 05:33:43 PM

Spirit Hammer: I used to work in a casino (in IT, not money handler) and they gave classes on identifying bills.
It's absurdly easy for 99.9% of counterfeits. (or rather to check for them)
Feel the paper. (You've felt money before right?)
Look at the bill. Look for blue/green threads.
Flip the bill, denomination match both sides?
Tilt the bill and look for the color change on the seal on the front side.
Hold it up to the light and look for the water mark, and the mylar thread (with the correct denomination)

The pen is for idiots.


True. I'm not a money handler, and even I, can reach into my pocket and tell without looking whether it's money, or regular paper.
 
2012-09-16 05:35:12 PM
butt fark
 
2012-09-16 05:36:32 PM

Oznog: 'At this time, he attempted to hand Plaintiff the two torn $100 bills he had misappropriated from her. When Plaintiff objected to receiving torn bills, Officer Edwards instructed Manager Russell to replace the bills he had wrongfully taken and destroyed.'

Ain't destroyed. As long as you have both halves taped together, it's legal tender worth $200. Any bank will take it.


But a Walmart won't, and that's where she wanted to spend it
 
2012-09-16 05:36:48 PM

Englebert Slaptyback: Spirit Hammer

The pen is for idiots.


*sigh*

The pen also removes the cashier's judgment (and eyesight) from the equation, while making it very obvious that the person passing the bill must clear a non-subjective hurdle in order to pass the fake bill. 

As an anti-fraud mechanism, the pen is mightier.


No, as an anti-fraud mechanism, the eye is still better. The pen is an anti-litigation mechanism, because the forger or fraudster can't claim "reasonable doubt". But if a counterfeit bill is so good it passes the eyeball test, then it's probably either real or the pen won't catch it anyway.
 
2012-09-16 05:37:10 PM
One of the reasons cases like this go to lawsuit isn't for the money involved. If Walmart has done nothing to discipline or coach these people, well, it ensures that they get fired. Corporate can be numbingly indifferent right up to the point that they realize that they've employed a liability. A settlement will be reached, and involve pink slips. The time delay can be attributed to how long she's been getting the runaround by Corporate.
 
2012-09-16 05:38:35 PM

Spirit Hammer: The pen is for idiots.


ecx.images-amazon.com
 
2012-09-16 05:39:11 PM

Englebert Slaptyback: As an anti-fraud mechanism, the pen is mightier.


But does it work??
 
2012-09-16 05:41:44 PM

Englebert Slaptyback: Spirit Hammer

The pen is for idiots.


*sigh*

The pen also removes the cashier's judgment (and eyesight) from the equation, while making it very obvious that the person passing the bill must clear a non-subjective hurdle in order to pass the fake bill. 

As an anti-fraud mechanism, the pen is mightier.


Except the pen can be faked with spray starch (see up-thread re: Randi)
Linen paper, water mark, color changing ink, mylar thread?
Not so much.

Eyesight may be a factor on reading the denomination on the myar, but the water mark, and color change is pretty clear. So is the feel of the paper.

Trained employees are better than a 1.50 pen.
 
2012-09-16 05:43:33 PM
You big dummies. yeah not taking the time to check those 2 $100 bills is not gonna cost Wal-mart a hell of alot more in a settlement.

I am guess Wal-mart tried to deal with this quietly but did not offer enough or wanted to do so with out an apology.

Wal-marts people flat out blew it and now wal-mart needs to fess up and pay up.
 
2012-09-16 05:48:47 PM

BarkingUnicorn: DownDaRiver: What the hell is with the Daily Fail greens today?
Is it just automatic?
Are any of the stories actually brit in origin?

American submitters are unionized, get weekends off.


Nah, its more likely Subbsy is gay and sucks off mod/mins for greens
 
2012-09-16 05:49:27 PM

grimlock1972: You big dummies. yeah not taking the time to check those 2 $100 bills is now gonna cost Wal-mart a hell of alot more in a settlement.

I am guess Wal-mart tried to deal with this quietly but did not offer enough or wanted to do so with out an apology.

Wal-marts people flat out blew it and now wal-mart needs to fess up and pay up.


/cannot type to save my soul today.
 
2012-09-16 05:54:31 PM

DownDaRiver: Nah, its more likely Subbsy is gay and sucks off mod/mins for greens


Rolling down the river. Keep rolling.
 
2012-09-16 05:58:18 PM

Tanukis_Parachute: if they 'were' counterfeit, the authorities would have preferred them whole instead of ripped up.


Exactly. You're supposed to hold them intact for the Secret Service to pick up. 

/I wonder if it was an attempted shakedown of a hispanic customer by the clerk / manager.

"confiscate" the suspect money and she pays with some other currency, then the clerk/manager tape it back together and voila'. They've made some extra dough for the day.
 
2012-09-16 06:03:13 PM

ultraholland: After the bills were found legal by police the store manager allegedly tried to give her back the ripped currency

So wait, he (allegedly) attempted to return her money and she refused to accept it?


Allegedly.
 
2012-09-16 06:07:13 PM

Tanukis_Parachute: if they 'were' counterfeit, the authorities would have preferred them whole instead of ripped up.

someone went on a power trip.


My thought, too. Thinking they're fake is one thing, but ripping them in half makes zero sense no matter how you shake it.
 
2012-09-16 06:09:17 PM

Spirit Hammer: I used to work in a casino (in IT, not money handler) and they gave classes on identifying bills.
It's absurdly easy for 99.9% of counterfeits. (or rather to check for them)
Feel the paper. (You've felt money before right?)
Look at the bill. Look for blue/green threads.
Flip the bill, denomination match both sides?
Tilt the bill and look for the color change on the seal on the front side.
Hold it up to the light and look for the water mark, and the mylar thread (with the correct denomination)

The pen is for idiots.


Blue/red threads.
 
2012-09-16 06:09:35 PM
Paging Farker Fnorgby... Fnorgby, please pick up the white courtesy phone.
 
2012-09-16 06:10:58 PM

BizarreMan: Tanukis_Parachute: if they 'were' counterfeit, the authorities would have preferred them whole instead of ripped up.

Exactly. You're supposed to hold them intact for the Secret Service to pick up. 

/I wonder if it was an attempted shakedown of a hispanic customer by the clerk / manager.

"confiscate" the suspect money and she pays with some other currency, then the clerk/manager tape it back together and voila'. They've made some extra dough for the day.


I'm sure it was an attempted shakedown and leave out the Hispanic part. The manager just wanted to be a dick, and this lady seemed vulnerable enough to provide an easy target. If Hispanics stopped shopping at Walmart, the company would fold in under a week.
 
2012-09-16 06:11:24 PM

Selector: People have this stereotypical image of the grocery store worker being a drooling power-hungry moron, but it's actually not a bad gig. I'm a store manager at a similar (albeit smaller) competitor of wal-mart, with two bachelor's degrees from a state university. It's decent money, benefits, etc. Sure, I never envisioned myself arguing with fools about the price of cheese for a living, but no one (and I mean nobody) intends to make a career out of retail grocery. Just kinda happens. And my staff is about like any other...a few shining stars, mostly normal people, and a few fnucking morons.


While I don't think it's right to judge people by their career or level of success I find myself biased against people in restaurant and retail work. Maybe it was my experience with both lines of business during school when I did both restaurant and retail gigs. The work itself is absolutely mind-numbing, unrewarding and all around depressing. I don't think I've ever met a bigger group (not all of course) of morons than in those two industries. Most of the management I knew were people who simply had the position because they've been with the company for a long time. And as you went up the management chain of those businesses I think those managers had either an inferiority complex from their career choice or where just plain stupid and overly narcissistic.

In fact, it was from my experience in those businesses while going to school that I really worked to succeed educationally and career wise in other fields. If I every got stuck in that business I don't think I could look at myself in the mirror. I'd probably just kill myself.
 
2012-09-16 06:17:45 PM
Isn't it illegal to destroy currency? So shouldn't the salesclerk who ripped up the valid $100 bills be prosecuted?
 
2012-09-16 06:20:57 PM

ultraholland: After the bills were found legal by police the store manager allegedly tried to give her back the ripped currency

So wait, he (allegedly) attempted to return her money and she refused to accept it?


After first destroying currency, a federal crime in and of itself.

And he wasn't smart enough to actually test the currency first for himself? She didn't tender damaged/destroyed currency; she shouldn't expect the currency that they (allegedly) damaged/destroyed in return.

Also,

if they 'were' counterfeit, the authorities would have preferred them whole instead of ripped up.

this.

Doesn't seem to be about wanting to prosecute for counterfeiting to me. More like using $100 bills while Mexican at WalMart... which,

If Hispanics stopped shopping at Walmart, the company would fold in under a week.

isn't a bad idea...
 
2012-09-16 06:24:04 PM

KingoftheCheese: The manager was just doing his job. As a customer service representative, he was exercising his right to refuse service to anyone. And I'm willing to bet that this customer was less than calm. Usually ethnic women are quite loud and opinionated when confronted by figures of authority.


Your attempt to couch racism in " rational" thinking is pretty weak.

/yup. yer an asshole
 
2012-09-16 06:29:20 PM

Iceman_Cometh: Spirit Hammer: I used to work in a casino (in IT, not money handler) and they gave classes on identifying bills.
It's absurdly easy for 99.9% of counterfeits. (or rather to check for them)
Feel the paper. (You've felt money before right?)
Look at the bill. Look for blue/green threads.
Flip the bill, denomination match both sides?
Tilt the bill and look for the color change on the seal on the front side.
Hold it up to the light and look for the water mark, and the mylar thread (with the correct denomination)

The pen is for idiots.

Blue/red threads.

Huh?
Checks bills in pockets.
Smacks head.
Ok. You're right.
But still threads.
 
2012-09-16 06:34:17 PM

Gyrfalcon: jat26006: styckx: After two hours at the front, police arrived around 4.15am

That's some impressive response time there Lou.

especially with someone "detained" by "security"

*sigh* Look up shopkeeper's privilege. Under just about every law in the land, storekeepers are allowed to detain someone suspected of theft for a reasonable amount of time in order to investigate it. Although nobody defines "reasonable" amount of time, the general rule in loss prevention is no more than 30 minutes. If the cops are going to take longer to arrive, you have to get the suspect's information and let them go, otherwise you're looking at false imprisonment.

Which is what I'd be considering were I in this lady's shoes. Also intentional infliction of emotional distress. She's got grounds for all kinds of fun tort claims, really.


The magic number is 15 min, after that it gets expensive for the store. I would have insisted the manager be taken in by the police and booked.
 
2012-09-16 06:39:38 PM

DownDaRiver: Farkenhostile: Why not just redirect fark.com to thedailymail.com on weekends to save people time?

No, don't do that.
If Fark were nothing but Daily Fail. I wouldn't even bother.
As it stands you have a 1-in-4 chance of reading a link that isn't DF.
Would be nice though if DF didn't get an auto green when the others don't stand much of a chance.

Boycott Daily Fail links!!!


I've submitted DM articles that were redlit only to see the same story greenest from a different source. It happens.
 
2012-09-16 06:45:38 PM

BizarreMan: Tanukis_Parachute: if they 'were' counterfeit, the authorities would have preferred them whole instead of ripped up.

Exactly. You're supposed to hold them intact for the Secret Service to pick up. 

/I wonder if it was an attempted shakedown of a hispanic customer by the clerk / manager.

"confiscate" the suspect money and she pays with some other currency, then the clerk/manager tape it back together and voila'. They've made some extra dough for the day.


Right, and call the cops why?
 
2012-09-16 06:48:19 PM
Don't most places have a "just give the suspected counterfeiter the money back and refuse the sale" policy?

If that bill HAD been a fake, the counterfeiter wouldn't have allowed him/herself to be detained. Nobody who's on the hook for decades of jail time is just going to say "Oh gee whiz! You got me! OK, slap on the cuff, Ms. Cashier. I'll just wait here quietly to be arrested." They'll pull out a knife or gun and do whatever it takes to get out of there.
 
2012-09-16 06:48:31 PM

Spirit Hammer: Except the pen can be faked with spray starch (see up-thread re: Randi)


Unless you know what type of pen the establishment is using, the "spray starch" trick seems like an iffy proposition. It might fool the pens that are checking the pH of the paper, but it will (obviously) cause the starch-detecting pens to indicate a forgery. In fact, that's what Randi is doing - he's altering genuine bills in such a way that they'll show up as counterfeit, and then releasing them into circulation. Kind of a dick move, if you ask me.
 
2012-09-16 06:52:38 PM
Exactly why I will only use these for payment, no one ever suspects they are fake:

www.eileenmcdargh.com
 
2012-09-16 06:54:38 PM
Even with violating USC 18 § 333 aside for the simple defacement; the cops could have arrested the store employees for damaging or attempting to destroy evidence should the bills turned out to be counterfeit.
 
2012-09-16 07:10:23 PM
So I hear there's a Walmart looking for a new manager.
 
2012-09-16 07:17:06 PM
I believe that ripping up money is considered destruction of federal property. A lawsuit is only the start of their problems.
 
2012-09-16 07:25:05 PM

Girion47: You can also send it to the Bureau of Engraving and Printing in Washington DC, 14th and D SW. The lab will piece your bills back together and send you a check. This also works if you have a 2 ft sphere of cash that was buried in the yard. They'll take it apart and determine value.


That is an oddly specific example...
 
2012-09-16 07:27:34 PM

MrBentor: Even with violating USC 18 § 333 aside for the simple defacement; the cops could have arrested the store employees for damaging or attempting to destroy evidence should the bills turned out to be counterfeit.


There would have been a riot in that town if the walmart was shutdown.
 
2012-09-16 07:33:15 PM
A minimum wage employee conferring with a CSM, which is like a minimum wage employee with a set front-end keys that exists because salaried managers can't stay up by the registers all day long. Nothing to see here.
 
2012-09-16 07:36:16 PM

Flint Ironstag: DownDaRiver: Farkenhostile: Why not just redirect fark.com to thedailymail.com on weekends to save people time?

No, don't do that.
If Fark were nothing but Daily Fail. I wouldn't even bother.
As it stands you have a 1-in-4 chance of reading a link that isn't DF.
Would be nice though if DF didn't get an auto green when the others don't stand much of a chance.

Boycott Daily Fail links!!!

I've submitted DM articles that were redlit only to see the same story greenest from a different source. It happens.


That's nice
Sorry though, I'm out of cookies
 
2012-09-16 07:53:29 PM

NephilimNexus: I believe that ripping up money is considered destruction of federal property.


It's not destruction of federal property, in the same sense that breaking windows in a federal building or smashing up a federal automobile is destruction of property. But defacing currency is a crime under 18 USC 333.

Add that to unlawful detainment, defamation and slander, and potentially tampering with evidence, and these guys are in for a world of hurt. I'd make them pay, and the $75k figure is missing quite a few zeros.
 
2012-09-16 07:57:13 PM
real bills are pretty hard to tear.
 
2012-09-16 08:00:38 PM
While a terrible thing for Mrs. Garcia to endure is it really worth $75,000? Frivolous lawsuits ruin American business.
- JPUSA , Chicago, United States,


Lolz
 
2012-09-16 08:11:41 PM

ultraholland: After the bills were found legal by police the store manager allegedly tried to give her back the ripped currency

So wait, he (allegedly) attempted to return her money and she refused to accept it?


So, wait, you're (allegedly) retarded. Okay, not allegedly.
 
2012-09-16 08:12:13 PM

tillerman35: Don't most places have a "just give the suspected counterfeiter the money back and refuse the sale" policy?

If that bill HAD been a fake, the counterfeiter wouldn't have allowed him/herself to be detained. Nobody who's on the hook for decades of jail time is just going to say "Oh gee whiz! You got me! OK, slap on the cuff, Ms. Cashier. I'll just wait here quietly to be arrested." They'll pull out a knife or gun and do whatever it takes to get out of there.


That's assuming they know it is counterfeit. Lots of counterfeiters don't actually pass the money themselves--they make the bills, then sell them to dealers (if that's the right word), for something like 50 cents on the dollar, and then these dealers actually go out and pass them. Even then, the dealers are careful--they give some handy cash to a friend or family member and ask them to make some purchases and bring back the change. The friend may in fact be unaware he's buying shiat with fake money.

That's the big counterfeiters of course. The fools who think Xeroxing a couple hundreds is a good idea don't do that--but they're unlikely to run from the cops anyway, since they've got very little to lose.
 
2012-09-16 08:18:43 PM
You'd think they'd know what real ones look like because a lot of Walmart shoppers are paid in cash.
 
2012-09-16 08:31:04 PM
Sorry if I missed it, but am I the only who noticed that we only have her side of the story? I have a difficult time believing that the associates would rip the bills in half without checking them at all. An even more difficult time believing that a manager would do so. As fun as it might be to pick on them, most of their workers are functionally literate and are trained in cash-handling. I worked for the company for many years, and yes, I do possess an I.Q. over 100. I also have a bachelor's, an MSEd, and now teach for a living. (Granted, I did quit Wally World once I got my degree, so you might have something there.)
I also find it odd that the police escorted her to her vehicle afterward. They usually only do that when they want to ensure that you leave the premises.
 
2012-09-16 08:35:03 PM
Going to a Walmart in TX: that increases the Fascistic Behavior probability. At least she didn't try singing the national anthem in the parking lot.
 
2012-09-16 08:42:19 PM
At first, it was all outrage at this abuse. Then, in the second para, it was 'San Antonio, TX. Now it's 'Meh'.
 
2012-09-16 08:47:09 PM
I often hear about this kind of thing without the money being taken. For 200 bones I'll hang around Wally World for four hours, but if it's just some Walmart schmuck telling me to stay when I want to go, I'm thoroughly capable of just going anyway. Did I miss some swearing-in ceremony where store employees nationwide became deputized to take people into their custody?
 
2012-09-16 08:50:16 PM

Gyrfalcon: jat26006: styckx: After two hours at the front, police arrived around 4.15am

That's some impressive response time there Lou.

especially with someone "detained" by "security"

*sigh* Look up shopkeeper's privilege. Under just about every law in the land, storekeepers are allowed to detain someone suspected of theft for a reasonable amount of time in order to investigate it. Although nobody defines "reasonable" amount of time, the general rule in loss prevention is no more than 30 minutes. If the cops are going to take longer to arrive, you have to get the suspect's information and let them go, otherwise you're looking at false imprisonment.

Which is what I'd be considering were I in this lady's shoes. Also intentional infliction of emotional distress. She's got grounds for all kinds of fun tort claims, really.


actually the way we handle it is we have 30 minutes to conduct our interview before we call the police...we can not hold a shoplifter for longer than 30 minutes without calling the police...if the cops take 3 hours to get here and we called within a half hour its all kosher
 
2012-09-16 08:51:13 PM

lohphat: FTFA: "It was in the early hours of December 18, 2010..."

Cue: oldnewsissoexciting.jpg


That's my first thought, too. Two years later and she starts suing. Something's fishy here.
 
2012-09-16 08:54:42 PM

Makh: And those employees vote, too.


Yes sir. That will be painfully apparent in a couple of months.
 
2012-09-16 09:08:16 PM
I used a $100 bill at a store and the clerk used a BLACK felt pen to check if it was legitimate, not one of those detector pens. She started to freak out and would have gone full retard had I not quickly pointed out her error.
 
2012-09-16 09:08:23 PM

Dalrint: Girion47: You can also send it to the Bureau of Engraving and Printing in Washington DC, 14th and D SW. The lab will piece your bills back together and send you a check. This also works if you have a 2 ft sphere of cash that was buried in the yard. They'll take it apart and determine value.

That is an oddly specific example...


It's from a documentary on cash money. Said sphere of cash had also been feasted upon by termites.
 
2012-09-16 09:08:27 PM

xiaodown: Admittedly, we are a sue-happy culture, but I think the woman's got a totally legitimate complaint, here. The store detained her and humiliated her in front of other employees and customers. That sounds like cause for compensation to me.


Yup. Not a lot of compensation but she certainly should get something.

jake_lex: Queensowntalia: lohphat: FTFA: "It was in the early hours of December 18, 2010..."

Cue: oldnewsissoexciting.jpg

It got media attention when she filed the suit several days ago.

"Ms Garcia, who said she was escorted out to her car by the officer around 5am, filed her complaint for false imprisonment and intentional infliction of emotional distress against the store on September 9."

My guess is that Walmart tried to do some sort of arbitration/mediation about this, tried to screw her in that too, and she rejected the offer and is now taking it to court. That would explain the long delay between this incident and the lawsuit.


Sounds reasonable.
 
2012-09-16 09:21:59 PM
adding to her humiliation, the employees told curious customers in passing that she was busted trying to use fake money.

And there, ladies and gentleman, is the tort. All the other stuff is tenuously excused by shopkeeper's privilege. She also wasn't imprisoned or detained so much as she willingly stayed because she wanted her damn money back. The quoted bit is definitely not okay though, she'll get some money for that.
 
2012-09-16 10:02:09 PM

Englebert Slaptyback: Rapmaster2000

Some of my best friends are ethnic.


My grandfather was ethnic, so that makes me one-quarter ethnic.


Ethnicity is a Learned Behaviour.
 
2012-09-16 10:10:18 PM
Came for pics of trashy ugly fatties shopping at Wal-Mart...leaving disappointed.

I need to look at these sort of pics conveniently placed in this thread so I can feel better about this being another weekend where I didn't get to shove my tongue down a woman's esophogus and exchange several tablespoons of saliva.

Indeed, the schadenfreudical nature of such pics would have consoled me with the assurance that there are people out there even more hideous than I.

Fark, I am disappoint.
 
2012-09-16 10:17:08 PM

Silentbob768768: Gyrfalcon: jat26006: styckx: After two hours at the front, police arrived around 4.15am

That's some impressive response time there Lou.

especially with someone "detained" by "security"

*sigh* Look up shopkeeper's privilege. Under just about every law in the land, storekeepers are allowed to detain someone suspected of theft for a reasonable amount of time in order to investigate it. Although nobody defines "reasonable" amount of time, the general rule in loss prevention is no more than 30 minutes. If the cops are going to take longer to arrive, you have to get the suspect's information and let them go, otherwise you're looking at false imprisonment.

Which is what I'd be considering were I in this lady's shoes. Also intentional infliction of emotional distress. She's got grounds for all kinds of fun tort claims, really.

actually the way we handle it is we have 30 minutes to conduct our interview before we call the police...we can not hold a shoplifter for longer than 30 minutes without calling the police...if the cops take 3 hours to get here and we called within a half hour its all kosher


Meh, it's different with different agencies and jurisdictions. At Disneyland when I was LP, we had 30 minutes from the moment they set foot backstage to conduct the interview, complete the report, and hand the thing over to the cops. We had a cop on duty in Security to expedite the process--but if we weren't done in that 30 minute window, he often wouldn't take the case unless it was for a high dollar amount. When the cop wasn't on property, we could hold them for a regular PD officer...but if the person said, "Nope, I'm leaving," while waiting for the cops, then we had to let them go.
 
2012-09-16 10:18:15 PM

Gyrfalcon: *sigh* Look up shopkeeper's privilege. Under just about every law in the land, storekeepers are allowed to detain someone suspected of theft for a reasonable amount of time in order to investigate it.


Just to be pedantic, she was never accused of theft, so this would not apply.
 
2012-09-16 10:23:50 PM

Silentbob768768: Gyrfalcon: jat26006: styckx: After two hours at the front, police arrived around 4.15am

That's some impressive response time there Lou.

especially with someone "detained" by "security"

*sigh* Look up shopkeeper's privilege. Under just about every law in the land, storekeepers are allowed to detain someone suspected of theft for a reasonable amount of time in order to investigate it. Although nobody defines "reasonable" amount of time, the general rule in loss prevention is no more than 30 minutes. If the cops are going to take longer to arrive, you have to get the suspect's information and let them go, otherwise you're looking at false imprisonment.

Which is what I'd be considering were I in this lady's shoes. Also intentional infliction of emotional distress. She's got grounds for all kinds of fun tort claims, really.

actually the way we handle it is we have 30 minutes to conduct our interview before we call the police...we can not hold a shoplifter for longer than 30 minutes without calling the police...if the cops take 3 hours to get here and we called within a half hour its all kosher


What allows a private agency to hold anyone? Cops, you know, have laws.
 
2012-09-16 10:46:36 PM

ecmoRandomNumbers: I don't think Walmart has a single employee with a 3-digit IQ.


They only hire the people that spell their names wrong.
 
2012-09-16 10:56:23 PM

Captain PTMB: I also find it odd that the police escorted her to her vehicle afterward. They usually only do that when they want to ensure that you leave the premises.


Assuming everything else is true, the embarrassed manager probably had her trespassed from the store.
 
2012-09-16 10:59:29 PM
I used to work in a bank and never once had a hispanic customer who would take anything less that 100's of preference.
 
2012-09-16 11:10:35 PM

xiaodown: Admittedly, we are a sue-happy culture, but I think the woman's got a totally legitimate complaint, here. The store detained her and humiliated her in front of other employees and customers. That sounds like cause for compensation to me.


How about replacing the destroyed $200, an additional $200, and the firing of the guy responsible? That seems fair to me. $74000, the number cited in the article, seems like something a lawyer made up for his 40%-60% commission
 
2012-09-16 11:18:17 PM
I will add this to the list of reasons why I don't shop at Wal-mart
 
2012-09-16 11:27:59 PM
i.imgur.com
 
2012-09-16 11:43:13 PM

mccoma: Girion47: Oznog: 'At this time, he attempted to hand Plaintiff the two torn $100 bills he had misappropriated from her. When Plaintiff objected to receiving torn bills, Officer Edwards instructed Manager Russell to replace the bills he had wrongfully taken and destroyed.'

Ain't destroyed. As long as you have both halves taped together, it's legal tender worth $200. Any bank will take it.

You can also send it to the Bureau of Engraving and Printing in Washington DC, 14th and D SW. The lab will piece your bills back together and send you a check. This also works if you have a 2 ft sphere of cash that was buried in the yard. They'll take it apart and determine value.

2ft sphere of cash that was buried in the yard?!? This needs a CSB.


It was an old documentary I watched, but I did work there for a while. Was a very cool place.

Link
 
2012-09-16 11:57:00 PM

Gyrfalcon: Silentbob768768: Gyrfalcon: jat26006: styckx: After two hours at the front, police arrived around 4.15am

That's some impressive response time there Lou.

especially with someone "detained" by "security"

*sigh* Look up shopkeeper's privilege. Under just about every law in the land, storekeepers are allowed to detain someone suspected of theft for a reasonable amount of time in order to investigate it. Although nobody defines "reasonable" amount of time, the general rule in loss prevention is no more than 30 minutes. If the cops are going to take longer to arrive, you have to get the suspect's information and let them go, otherwise you're looking at false imprisonment.

Which is what I'd be considering were I in this lady's shoes. Also intentional infliction of emotional distress. She's got grounds for all kinds of fun tort claims, really.

actually the way we handle it is we have 30 minutes to conduct our interview before we call the police...we can not hold a shoplifter for longer than 30 minutes without calling the police...if the cops take 3 hours to get here and we called within a half hour its all kosher

Meh, it's different with different agencies and jurisdictions. At Disneyland when I was LP, we had 30 minutes from the moment they set foot backstage to conduct the interview, complete the report, and hand the thing over to the cops. We had a cop on duty in Security to expedite the process--but if we weren't done in that 30 minute window, he often wouldn't take the case unless it was for a high dollar amount. When the cop wasn't on property, we could hold them for a regular PD officer...but if the person said, "Nope, I'm leaving," while waiting for the cops, then we had to let them go.


damnnnn and i thought we had some tight restrictions
 
2012-09-16 11:59:14 PM

jat26006: Silentbob768768: Gyrfalcon: jat26006: styckx: After two hours at the front, police arrived around 4.15am

That's some impressive response time there Lou.

especially with someone "detained" by "security"

*sigh* Look up shopkeeper's privilege. Under just about every law in the land, storekeepers are allowed to detain someone suspected of theft for a reasonable amount of time in order to investigate it. Although nobody defines "reasonable" amount of time, the general rule in loss prevention is no more than 30 minutes. If the cops are going to take longer to arrive, you have to get the suspect's information and let them go, otherwise you're looking at false imprisonment.

Which is what I'd be considering were I in this lady's shoes. Also intentional infliction of emotional distress. She's got grounds for all kinds of fun tort claims, really.

actually the way we handle it is we have 30 minutes to conduct our interview before we call the police...we can not hold a shoplifter for longer than 30 minutes without calling the police...if the cops take 3 hours to get here and we called within a half hour its all kosher

What allows a private agency to hold anyone? Cops, you know, have laws.


shopkeepers privilege specifically states just that...a business has the right to detain a shoplifter
 
2012-09-17 12:05:43 AM

Silentbob768768: jat26006: Silentbob768768: Gyrfalcon: jat26006: styckx: After two hours at the front, police arrived around 4.15am

That's some impressive response time there Lou.

especially with someone "detained" by "security"

*sigh* Look up shopkeeper's privilege. Under just about every law in the land, storekeepers are allowed to detain someone suspected of theft for a reasonable amount of time in order to investigate it. Although nobody defines "reasonable" amount of time, the general rule in loss prevention is no more than 30 minutes. If the cops are going to take longer to arrive, you have to get the suspect's information and let them go, otherwise you're looking at false imprisonment.

Which is what I'd be considering were I in this lady's shoes. Also intentional infliction of emotional distress. She's got grounds for all kinds of fun tort claims, really.

actually the way we handle it is we have 30 minutes to conduct our interview before we call the police...we can not hold a shoplifter for longer than 30 minutes without calling the police...if the cops take 3 hours to get here and we called within a half hour its all kosher

What allows a private agency to hold anyone? Cops, you know, have laws.

shopkeepers privilege specifically states just that...a business has the right to detain a shoplifter


Is there a statute you can cite for that?
 
2012-09-17 12:09:27 AM

KingoftheCheese: Tough crowd today.

I just stop trolling right now and let you guys get back to your discussions.


You shut your whore mouth and get back to trolling. I'm taking notes here
 
2012-09-17 12:16:52 AM

Girion47: Silentbob768768: jat26006: Silentbob768768: Gyrfalcon: jat26006: styckx: After two hours at the front, police arrived around 4.15am

That's some impressive response time there Lou.

especially with someone "detained" by "security"

*sigh* Look up shopkeeper's privilege. Under just about every law in the land, storekeepers are allowed to detain someone suspected of theft for a reasonable amount of time in order to investigate it. Although nobody defines "reasonable" amount of time, the general rule in loss prevention is no more than 30 minutes. If the cops are going to take longer to arrive, you have to get the suspect's information and let them go, otherwise you're looking at false imprisonment.

Which is what I'd be considering were I in this lady's shoes. Also intentional infliction of emotional distress. She's got grounds for all kinds of fun tort claims, really.

actually the way we handle it is we have 30 minutes to conduct our interview before we call the police...we can not hold a shoplifter for longer than 30 minutes without calling the police...if the cops take 3 hours to get here and we called within a half hour its all kosher

What allows a private agency to hold anyone? Cops, you know, have laws.

shopkeepers privilege specifically states just that...a business has the right to detain a shoplifter

Is there a statute you can cite for that?


I dont have a specific statute on hand and everything google comes up with that shows promise is in a pdf and i dont have access to adobe at the moment. however, while its pure definition may vary by state, the general gist is a business has to the right to hold a shoplifter for a reasonable amount of time (this part definitely varies by state). Think of it as a citizens arrest. Now if a business detains a subject, conducts their interview/investigation and prosecutes and the subject is found innocent the business would then be liable. This is why big corporations make their LP jump through hoops and make damn sure its a winning case before detaining.
 
2012-09-17 12:17:57 AM

Silentbob768768: Girion47: Silentbob768768: jat26006: Silentbob768768: Gyrfalcon: jat26006: styckx: After two hours at the front, police arrived around 4.15am

That's some impressive response time there Lou.

especially with someone "detained" by "security"

*sigh* Look up shopkeeper's privilege. Under just about every law in the land, storekeepers are allowed to detain someone suspected of theft for a reasonable amount of time in order to investigate it. Although nobody defines "reasonable" amount of time, the general rule in loss prevention is no more than 30 minutes. If the cops are going to take longer to arrive, you have to get the suspect's information and let them go, otherwise you're looking at false imprisonment.

Which is what I'd be considering were I in this lady's shoes. Also intentional infliction of emotional distress. She's got grounds for all kinds of fun tort claims, really.

actually the way we handle it is we have 30 minutes to conduct our interview before we call the police...we can not hold a shoplifter for longer than 30 minutes without calling the police...if the cops take 3 hours to get here and we called within a half hour its all kosher

What allows a private agency to hold anyone? Cops, you know, have laws.

shopkeepers privilege specifically states just that...a business has the right to detain a shoplifter

Is there a statute you can cite for that?

I dont have a specific statute on hand and everything google comes up with that shows promise is in a pdf and i dont have access to adobe at the moment. however, while its pure definition may vary by state, the general gist is a business has to the right to hold a shoplifter for a reasonable amount of time (this part definitely varies by state). Think of it as a citizens arrest. Now if a business detains a subject, conducts their interview/investigation and prosecutes and the subject is found innocent the business would then be liable. This is why big corporations make their LP jump through hoops and make d ...


Silentbob768768: Girion47: Silentbob768768: jat26006: Silentbob768768: Gyrfalcon: jat26006: styckx: After two hours at the front, police arrived around 4.15am

That's some impressive response time there Lou.

especially with someone "detained" by "security"

*sigh* Look up shopkeeper's privilege. Under just about every law in the land, storekeepers are allowed to detain someone suspected of theft for a reasonable amount of time in order to investigate it. Although nobody defines "reasonable" amount of time, the general rule in loss prevention is no more than 30 minutes. If the cops are going to take longer to arrive, you have to get the suspect's information and let them go, otherwise you're looking at false imprisonment.

Which is what I'd be considering were I in this lady's shoes. Also intentional infliction of emotional distress. She's got grounds for all kinds of fun tort claims, really.

actually the way we handle it is we have 30 minutes to conduct our interview before we call the police...we can not hold a shoplifter for longer than 30 minutes without calling the police...if the cops take 3 hours to get here and we called within a half hour its all kosher

What allows a private agency to hold anyone? Cops, you know, have laws.

shopkeepers privilege specifically states just that...a business has the right to detain a shoplifter

Is there a statute you can cite for that?

I dont have a specific statute on hand and everything google comes up with that shows promise is in a pdf and i dont have access to adobe at the moment. however, while its pure definition may vary by state, the general gist is a business has to the right to hold a shoplifter for a reasonable amount of time (this part definitely varies by state). Think of it as a citizens arrest. Now if a business detains a subject, conducts their interview/investigation and prosecutes and the subject is found innocent the business would then be liable. This is why big corporations make their LP jump through hoops and make d ...


Ok, was just curious if it was codified somewhere or some kind of mystical "shop keepers privilege" at which point I'd tell you to shove it up your ass.
 
2012-09-17 12:20:00 AM

Oznog: 'At this time, he attempted to hand Plaintiff the two torn $100 bills he had misappropriated from her. When Plaintiff objected to receiving torn bills, Officer Edwards instructed Manager Russell to replace the bills he had wrongfully taken and destroyed.'

Ain't destroyed. As long as you have both halves taped together, it's legal tender worth $200. Any bank will take it.


And the officer ensured Walmart was that bank.
 
2012-09-17 12:26:59 AM

Spirit Hammer: Also the mylar strip is in a different place for each denomination.
(Ever wonder how a blind person can tell a five from a twenty?)


Probably the same way they did before the mylar strip was added.
 
2012-09-17 12:27:58 AM
I cant find a straight law for the country, it might be just one of those blanket things that is up to the states but believe me its real haha you think billion dollar companies would risk it? Now some companies take their liability more hardcore than others...some places will let you use any form of "reasonable force" others will lets you use only the bare minimum if any. I personally have a check list of things that I must go through before I can make a stop...once i do i have to call the higher ups to discuss the case and get prosecution approval. Checklist aint complete? cant make a stop...higher ups say no prosecution? cut em loose. Another interesting thing...if an LP makes a bad stop not only is the store on the line but the LP personally holds liability.
 
2012-09-17 12:29:35 AM

shotglasss: lohphat: FTFA: "It was in the early hours of December 18, 2010..."

Cue: oldnewsissoexciting.jpg

That's my first thought, too. Two years later and she starts suing. Something's fishy here.


The statute of limitations for most civil suits is 2 years. An awful lot of suits are filed after 1 year and 364 days. This one's actually early.
 
2012-09-17 12:35:18 AM

Silentbob768768: if an LP makes a bad stop not only is the store on the line but the LP personally holds liability.


You have that from the store, or from the police?

Because "agency of the employer" covers a lot of job sins, especially when stopping people is your employed position.
 
2012-09-17 12:48:03 AM

This text is now purple: Silentbob768768: if an LP makes a bad stop not only is the store on the line but the LP personally holds liability.

You have that from the store, or from the police?

Because "agency of the employer" covers a lot of job sins, especially when stopping people is your employed position.


its in our contracts
 
2012-09-17 12:59:31 AM

Girion47: Silentbob768768: jat26006: Silentbob768768: Gyrfalcon: jat26006: styckx: After two hours at the front, police arrived around 4.15am

That's some impressive response time there Lou.

especially with someone "detained" by "security"

*sigh* Look up shopkeeper's privilege. Under just about every law in the land, storekeepers are allowed to detain someone suspected of theft for a reasonable amount of time in order to investigate it. Although nobody defines "reasonable" amount of time, the general rule in loss prevention is no more than 30 minutes. If the cops are going to take longer to arrive, you have to get the suspect's information and let them go, otherwise you're looking at false imprisonment.

Which is what I'd be considering were I in this lady's shoes. Also intentional infliction of emotional distress. She's got grounds for all kinds of fun tort claims, really.

actually the way we handle it is we have 30 minutes to conduct our interview before we call the police...we can not hold a shoplifter for longer than 30 minutes without calling the police...if the cops take 3 hours to get here and we called within a half hour its all kosher

What allows a private agency to hold anyone? Cops, you know, have laws.

shopkeepers privilege specifically states just that...a business has the right to detain a shoplifter

Is there a statute you can cite for that?


Texas statute - http://law.onecle.com/texas/civil/124.001.00.html
 
2012-09-17 01:03:33 AM
I'm feeling lazy tonight. What's the ruling on using force to protect yourself from an illegal detainment from a loss prevention puke? What about deadly force if grabbed from behind?

/the google-fu is lazy tonight
 
2012-09-17 01:14:43 AM

Girion47: Ok, was just curious if it was codified somewhere or some kind of mystical "shop keepers privilege" at which point I'd tell you to shove it up your ass.


To answer your question, or rather, this question: Even where there is a formal statute, or where they just rely on common law...they can't actually force you to go. Store security can ask. If you say no and they decide to physically detain you, i.e. arrest you, then that can only be done by a sworn law enforcement officer. One reason, besides employee liability, that stores usually don't allow their LP agents to chase somebody down and haul them back into the store in handcuffs is that nobody except sworn law enforcement has the absolute right to deprive you of your liberty. A few places probably have POST certified agents who can actually arrest you, but it's doubtful that Walmart would spring for such people.

Now, that said, if you shoplift or steal and the LP agent comes up and says "Excuse me, sir or madam, would you mind accompanying me blah blah blah" and you DO decide to run, you're only protected after the fact. That is, if the agent/douchebag decides to introduce your face to the asphalt and drag you bleeding back to the office, you will win in court later (because that's not "reasonable detention") but at the cost of a broken nose. Your call.
 
2012-09-17 02:48:30 AM
Garcia

What the hell is a messican doin with 2 100 dollar bills anyway??
 
2012-09-17 03:11:27 AM

I agree with you: Garcia

What the hell is a messican doin with 2 100 dollar bills anyway??


Going to a yard sale the minute it opens to buya 50 cent item, and expect 99.50 in change.
 
2012-09-17 03:16:05 AM

Farkenhostile: Why not just redirect fark.com to thedailymail.com on weekends to save people time?


But then we couldn't enjoy being sent to The Sun to look at pictures of munters described here as "cute" or "smoking hot."
 
2012-09-17 04:48:31 AM

E-Brake: "Detained at the front of the store while told the police had been called, Ms Garcia claims that adding to her humiliation, the employees told curious customers in passing that she was busted trying to use fake money."

facepalm doesn't begin to describe this.


Words literally fail me trying to describe how bad this is.

I understand that $74,900 is the magic number that keeps it in state court instead of federal court, but if this is true (which it may be, since unusually for a Daily Fail "article" it has multiple sources) I would say she's entitled to a lot more. It's like the employee decided to check as many of the "don't do this if you don't want to get sued" boxes, and then when the manager came to assist he pointed out a few extra boxes the first guy had missed.

Also, could we get a "DIAF" for the manager? I'll admit it's not as douchey as arresting people in bars for public intoxication, but it's in the neighborhood.
 
2012-09-17 05:33:11 AM

reimanr06: xiaodown: Admittedly, we are a sue-happy culture, but I think the woman's got a totally legitimate complaint, here. The store detained her and humiliated her in front of other employees and customers. That sounds like cause for compensation to me.

How about replacing the destroyed $200, an additional $200, and the firing of the guy responsible? That seems fair to me. $74000, the number cited in the article, seems like something a lawyer made up for his 40%-60% commission


If the destruction of bills had been where it stopped, sure, something under 1k and firing the douchenozzles involved would be great. It's the part where they not only detained her for four hours, but told passing customers she was a counterfeiter that makes all them extra zeros on the end justifiable.

Seriously, even after the dick-tastic way the whole episode started, ripping bills up and all, the situation could have been recovered if they'd acted respectfully for the rest of it. Of course, if you start off acting like a dick, why change tack partway through?
 
2012-09-17 09:34:23 AM
You know, I've delt with some business that didn't seem to want my money, but this takes the cake.
 
2012-09-17 09:56:27 AM

Girion47: Oznog: 'At this time, he attempted to hand Plaintiff the two torn $100 bills he had misappropriated from her. When Plaintiff objected to receiving torn bills, Officer Edwards instructed Manager Russell to replace the bills he had wrongfully taken and destroyed.'

Ain't destroyed. As long as you have both halves taped together, it's legal tender worth $200. Any bank will take it.

You can also send it to the Bureau of Engraving and Printing in Washington DC, 14th and D SW. The lab will piece your bills back together and send you a check. This also works if you have a 2 ft sphere of cash that was buried in the yard. They'll take it apart and determine value.


Who buries cash in spheres? Pots, boxes, cans, bottles, but spheres?
 
2012-09-17 11:44:43 AM

shotglasss: lohphat: FTFA: "It was in the early hours of December 18, 2010..."

Cue: oldnewsissoexciting.jpg

That's my first thought, too. Two years later and she starts suing. Something's fishy here.


Statute of limitations. She's well within them, and it probably took a while to get a contingency lawyer/for a contingency lawyer to examine the case and say "This is a win, I'll take the case free of initial charge and you can pay me a part of the win/settlement when we get it, and get it we will."
 
2012-09-17 11:52:04 AM
Even if the were counterfeit, why would you tear them up? They're evidence and I'm sure the secret service wouldn't appreciate you damaging them needlessly.
 
2012-09-17 12:46:53 PM

Loren: jake_lex: My guess is that Walmart tried to do some sort of arbitration/mediation about this, tried to screw her in that too, and she rejected the offer and is now taking it to court. That would explain the long delay between this incident and the lawsuit.

Sounds reasonable.


When I was working on my MBA a couple of years ago, I remember reading an article that stated that Wal-Mart fights all lawsuits, regardless of whether they were obviously in the wrong.
 
2012-09-17 01:14:03 PM

ecmoRandomNumbers: I don't think Walmart has a single employee with a 3-digit IQ.


Keep trying, eventually you'll land your prince. It's just with their high salaries and great benefits, it's hard to keep the men of Walmart single for long. And one with a "3-digit IQ" won't last long on the market ladies.
 
2012-09-17 01:30:43 PM

qualtrough: Girion47: Oznog: 'At this time, he attempted to hand Plaintiff the two torn $100 bills he had misappropriated from her. When Plaintiff objected to receiving torn bills, Officer Edwards instructed Manager Russell to replace the bills he had wrongfully taken and destroyed.'

Ain't destroyed. As long as you have both halves taped together, it's legal tender worth $200. Any bank will take it.

You can also send it to the Bureau of Engraving and Printing in Washington DC, 14th and D SW. The lab will piece your bills back together and send you a check. This also works if you have a 2 ft sphere of cash that was buried in the yard. They'll take it apart and determine value.

Who buries cash in spheres? Pots, boxes, cans, bottles, but spheres?


Well if I remember correctly, it was a giant wad of bills buried in a burlap sac by some old dude.
 
2012-09-17 01:45:12 PM

the801: also, robbery, like you said. but false imprisonment is bigger and will get you more money in civil court.


False imprisonment is generally a misdemeanor; robbery is a felony. False imprisonment becomes kidnapping if they involuntarily move you to another location; sounds like this all happened in the checkout isle, so robbery is the only felony charge that would stick.
 
2012-09-18 12:44:49 AM

yukichigai:
It's the part where they not only detained her for four hours, but told passing customers she was a counterfeiter that makes all them extra zeros on the end justifiable.

Seriously, even after the dick-tastic way the whole episode started, ripping bills up and all, the situation could have been recovered if they'd acted respectfully for the rest of it. Of course, if you start off acting like a dick, why change tack partway through?


Not trying to defend Wal-Mart or the actions of their employees here. False imprisonment and at least an attempt at slander (don't you have to prove actual damage to your reputation occurs to win a slander case? I'm not sure that occurred here) are pretty dicktastic, I agree.

I'm just tired of people (and their attorneys) looking for massive paydays for relatively minor incidents.
I don't think having a shiatty afternoon is worth 75000 dollars without proof of some kind of longer term damage. I'm not convinced at this time that the walmart employees telling random customers she was a counterfeiter constitutes any meaningful long term damage to her reputation, but I suppose I could be convinced.

On the other hand, this kind of thing does keep others from acting like dicks, which I'm ok with.
 
2012-09-18 11:01:41 AM

shotglasss: lohphat: FTFA: "It was in the early hours of December 18, 2010..."

Cue: oldnewsissoexciting.jpg

That's my first thought, too. Two years later and she starts suing. Something's fishy here.


That gastric lap band surgeries don't pay for themselves you know.
 
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