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2012-09-16 02:06:55 PM
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2012-09-16 02:43:26 PM
If you don't think the SEC is overrated, then please enlighten me as to why Florida is ranked so high? They don't have a single good QB, they've struggled against BOWLING GREEN of all teams, and they're coming off of a 6-6 season. Who thought they needed to be ranked before the season started at all? And what have they done to earn their current #14 ranking? They beat another overrated SEC team in Tennessee, who was 5-7 last year and has done nothing of note this year. That's supposed to be impressive?

I get that everyone has a hard-on for the SEC, but neither of those teams should've be ranked so damn high.
 
2012-09-16 02:47:43 PM

lacydog: If you don't think the SEC is overrated, then please enlighten me as to why Florida is ranked so high? They don't have a single good QB, they've struggled against BOWLING GREEN of all teams, and they're coming off of a 6-6 season. Who thought they needed to be ranked before the season started at all? And what have they done to earn their current #14 ranking? They beat another overrated SEC team in Tennessee, who was 5-7 last year and has done nothing of note this year. That's supposed to be impressive?

I get that everyone has a hard-on for the SEC, but neither of those teams should've be ranked so damn high.


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2012-09-16 02:51:28 PM
SEC is overrated, mostly. See Arkansas for evidence evidence of that, as well as the above mentioned Florida and Tennessee.

However, and as an LSU alum it pains me to keep having to say this, Bama is frighteningly good and cannot be argued against. We're number 2 until somebody shows otherwise. Georgia has a damn good team as well. The overrated situation is more in the middle of the pack SEC teams, and it was the same way last year.
 
2012-09-16 03:00:59 PM
I think if Notre Dame can beat Michigan, they might have a chance of being a contender for the National Championship this year. They have a tough schedule this year playing against Michigan, Stanford, BYU, Oklahoma, and USC. I think their easiest teams are Navy and Wake Forest.

If Notre Dame can contain Denard Robinson, they will win next Saturday night.
 
2012-09-16 03:01:40 PM
I guess I'm the only one that noticed Notre Dame jumped from #20 to #11 for beating another crappy Big 10 team.
 
2012-09-16 03:05:19 PM
As an ACC fan, I think I'm going to sit down this season and let the grown up conferences argue about who is or isn't overrated.

/So far, this season has been embarrassing. And it doesn't feel like it'll get much better.
 
2012-09-16 03:07:30 PM
Alabama has a weak schedule again this year, and LSU's schedule this year is weak as well. Which means yet again, one of those teams will go undefeated, while the other has just the one loss to the other.

Get ready for the re-re-re-re-match.
 
2012-09-16 03:16:30 PM
I just thought it funny to have all of the So Cal dick smokers on TV have to choke on it.

/Ala is the no.1 in my opinion
//Big XII boy
 
2012-09-16 03:17:40 PM
The a href="http://espn.go.com/college-football/rankings/_/poll/1/week/4" target="_blank">complete rankings/a>, in case anyone is interested.
 
2012-09-16 03:18:29 PM

Robo Beat: The a href="http://espn.go.com/college-football/rankings/_/poll/1/week/4" target="_blank">complete rankings/a>, in case anyone is interested.


Html fail.

Anyway, the link is in there if you want it.
 
2012-09-16 03:25:16 PM

Slow To Return: Alabama has a weak schedule again this year, and LSU's schedule this year is weak as well. Which means yet again, one of those teams will go undefeated, while the other has just the one loss to the other.

Get ready for the re-re-re-re-match.


I'd hate to see my Tigers continue to lose to Bama in hugely over-hyped games (we were incredibly lucky to win the regular season game last year). BUT, we've got them under the lights in Death Valley this year, so we've got that going for us, which is nice.
 
2012-09-16 03:25:20 PM
I'm curious as to who everyone complaining about LSU being #2 would stick in that slot. Oregon has played no one, FSU has played no one, OU has played no one and almost lost to UTEP. I just don't see where the complaints about the top 2 are coming from.
 
2012-09-16 03:30:17 PM

Chunks McGunks: OU has played no one and almost lost to UTEP


OU is overrated in my opinion, until otherwise proven.

/OU fan.
//OU season ticket holder since Gibbs
///Switzer if you count my student tix
 
2012-09-16 03:36:27 PM

Chunks McGunks: I'm curious as to who everyone complaining about LSU being #2 would stick in that slot. Oregon has played no one, FSU has played no one, OU has played no one and almost lost to UTEP. I just don't see where the complaints about the top 2 are coming from.


I personally have no problem with the top 2. Alabama is obvious and the only team to beat LSU in the last season plus is Alabama.

Not sure I am sold on Georgia. Do they have another season where they miss the best two teams in the conference..in other words, easiest possible conference schedule imaginable?
 
2012-09-16 03:45:18 PM

theurge14: I guess I'm the only one that noticed Notre Dame jumped from #20 to #11 for beating another crappy Big 10 team.


I noticed, and even as an Irish Fan I'm surprised, not that they moved up mind you, but that they basically swapped the two teams positions and had the Irish. I honestly wouldn't have ND in the Top 15 unless they beat Michigan and go into OK undefeated. (I do believe if the Irish make it through the season undefeated then they should be in the NC game, yes over a one loss any other team.)

I think people like to get all their complaints out every week as if the season ends today and now it's time for a national championship game.
 
2012-09-16 03:47:22 PM

srhp29: Chunks McGunks: I'm curious as to who everyone complaining about LSU being #2 would stick in that slot. Oregon has played no one, FSU has played no one, OU has played no one and almost lost to UTEP. I just don't see where the complaints about the top 2 are coming from.

I personally have no problem with the top 2. Alabama is obvious and the only team to beat LSU in the last season plus is Alabama.

Not sure I am sold on Georgia. Do they have another season where they miss the best two teams in the conference..in other words, easiest possible conference schedule imaginable?


Yes they do. If they ever learn to start playing at the beginning of games they'll have the honor of getting beat by Alabama or LSU (again) in Atlanta at the end of the year.
/big if
 
2012-09-16 03:48:21 PM

srhp29: Chunks McGunks: I'm curious as to who everyone complaining about LSU being #2 would stick in that slot. Oregon has played no one, FSU has played no one, OU has played no one and almost lost to UTEP. I just don't see where the complaints about the top 2 are coming from.

I personally have no problem with the top 2. Alabama is obvious and the only team to beat LSU in the last season plus is Alabama.

Not sure I am sold on Georgia. Do they have another season where they miss the best two teams in the conference..in other words, easiest possible conference schedule imaginable?


Yes. UGA got it easy this year. By current rankings, they will play just one top 7 team for the rest of the season (#7, South Carolina). Florida, by way, will play four, including LSU.
 
2012-09-16 03:49:10 PM

Funk Brothers: I think if Notre Dame can beat Michigan, they might have a chance of being a contender for the National Championship this year. They have a tough schedule this year playing against Michigan, Stanford, BYU, Oklahoma, and USC. I think their easiest teams are Navy and Wake Forest.

If Notre Dame can't contain Denard Robinson, they will win lose next Saturday night.


ftfy
 
2012-09-16 03:54:09 PM

seelorq: Yes. UGA got it easy this year. By current rankings, they will play just one top 7 team for the rest of the season (#7, South Carolina). Florida, by way, will play four, including LSU.


so we're stopping the ranking system at number 7 now?
 
2012-09-16 03:55:30 PM

AKTurkey: Funk Brothers: I think if Notre Dame can beat Michigan, they might have a chance of being a contender for the National Championship this year. They have a tough schedule this year playing against Michigan, Stanford, BYU, Oklahoma, and USC. I think their easiest teams are Navy and Wake Forest.

If Notre Dame can't contain Denard Robinson, they will win lose next Saturday night.

ftfy


I'm more or less hoping they watched the game tape of last year where Robinson runs all over them for a billiondy yards and someone says "SEE THIS??? STOP THAT!"
 
2012-09-16 03:58:16 PM
As a UT fan, I figured the Vols were overrated and wouldn't beat Florida, but there's nothing wrong with hoping this year would be different. Florida is not a very good team, and they will get exposed when they play some of the better SEC talent. But it sure was nice to see VT and USC go down in flames.

/my old boss was a USC fan, couldn't stand him
//coworker of mine was a VT fan, he wasn't too bad, but it's still fun to mess with him about it
///why couldn't Navy win?
 
2012-09-16 04:01:39 PM

bel4sucks: seelorq: Yes. UGA got it easy this year. By current rankings, they will play just one top 7 team for the rest of the season (#7, South Carolina). Florida, by way, will play four, including LSU.

so we're stopping the ranking system at number 7 now?


That's the current ranking of the one other ranked team that UGA will play other than Florida, so it serves as a benchmark of sorts to illustrate how weak their schedule is relative to Florida's.
 
2012-09-16 04:03:01 PM

lacydog: If you don't think the SEC is overrated, then please enlighten me as to why Florida is ranked so high? They don't have a single good QB, they've struggled against BOWLING GREEN of all teams, and they're coming off of a 6-6 season. Who thought they needed to be ranked before the season started at all? And what have they done to earn their current #14 ranking? They beat another overrated SEC team in Tennessee, who was 5-7 last year and has done nothing of note this year. That's supposed to be impressive?

I get that everyone has a hard-on for the SEC, but neither of those teams should've be ranked so damn high.


Florida is ranked because they're 2-0 in conference and just whipped a Tennessee team that some (not me) thought would contend for the East. Now personally, I don't think Florida is good enough to win the East, and they certainly aren't good enough to beat Alabama or LSU, which suggests to me that Florida's ranking will work itself out over the course of the season.
 
2012-09-16 04:04:06 PM

SamFlagg: AKTurkey: Funk Brothers: I think if Notre Dame can beat Michigan, they might have a chance of being a contender for the National Championship this year. They have a tough schedule this year playing against Michigan, Stanford, BYU, Oklahoma, and USC. I think their easiest teams are Navy and Wake Forest.

If Notre Dame can't contain Denard Robinson, they will win lose next Saturday night.

ftfy

I'm more or less hoping they watched the game tape of last year where Robinson runs all over them for a billiondy yards and someone says "SEE THIS??? STOP THAT!"


Not just last year; that's happened for each of the last 3 years. For some reason, Denard seems to put up video game numbers against ND every time.

Most likely that game will be close and tough for both teams.
 
2012-09-16 04:07:20 PM
There's a whoooole lot of "why is this team ranked" or "why is this team ranked so high" going on.

Who should be ranked higher? Who isn't ranked that should be?
 
2012-09-16 04:13:03 PM

lacydog: If you don't think the SEC is overrated, then please enlighten me as to why Florida is ranked so high? They don't have a single good QB, they've struggled against BOWLING GREEN of all teams, and they're coming off of a 6-6 season. Who thought they needed to be ranked before the season started at all? And what have they done to earn their current #14 ranking? They beat another overrated SEC team in Tennessee, who was 5-7 last year and has done nothing of note this year. That's supposed to be impressive?

I get that everyone has a hard-on for the SEC, but neither of those teams should've be ranked so damn high.


What, in your opinion, is not good about Jeff Driskel.
 
2012-09-16 04:16:36 PM

Dafatone: There's a whoooole lot of "why is this team ranked" or "why is this team ranked so high" going on.

Who should be ranked higher? Who isn't ranked that should be?


I've asked myself that a time or two this season and haven't come up with a good answer yet.
 
2012-09-16 04:18:01 PM

seelorq: That's the current ranking of the one other ranked team that UGA will play other than Florida at this time, so it serves as a benchmark of sorts to illustrate how weak their schedule is relative to Florida's at this time, barring no other movement in the rankings from now until the end of october.



Fixed to show ridiculousness
 
2012-09-16 04:18:23 PM

lacydog: If you don't think the SEC is overrated, then please enlighten me as to why Florida is ranked so high? They don't have a single good QB, they've struggled against BOWLING GREEN of all teams, and they're coming off of a 6-6 season. Who thought they needed to be ranked before the season started at all? And what have they done to earn their current #14 ranking? They beat another overrated SEC team in Tennessee, who was 5-7 last year and has done nothing of note this year. That's supposed to be impressive?

I get that everyone has a hard-on for the SEC, but neither of those teams should've be ranked so damn high.


It goes both ways, I will explain that if you explain why a shiatty team like FSU is ranked so high when they have played even shiattier teams.
 
2012-09-16 04:21:32 PM

bel4sucks: seelorq: Yes. UGA got it easy this year. By current rankings, they will play just one top 7 team for the rest of the season (#7, South Carolina). Florida, by way, will play four, including LSU.

so we're stopping the ranking system at number 7 now?


Florida will be lucky to be still ranked when they play Georgia. I'd be impressed if they didn't lose to all three teams after Kentucky. That said GTech will likely be ranked at the end of the year, and Georgia will play whoever wins the SEC West, unless they pull a 2007 and get to play Ohio in the Asskicking Bowl part 2 and complain that they should be in the NC game after they win 77-10
 
2012-09-16 04:22:13 PM
So you've established the SEC is overrated, and the Pac-12 is overrated because USC lost, the Big 10 is overrated because Nebraska and Wisconsin lost to unranked Pac-12 teams, the Big 12 is overrated because Oklahoma almost lost to UTEP and Oklahoma State lost to Arizona, and no one thinks the ACC and Big East are good conferences anyway.

This means Conference USA is the best conference in the country.
 
2012-09-16 04:24:33 PM

srhp29: Chunks McGunks: I'm curious as to who everyone complaining about LSU being #2 would stick in that slot. Oregon has played no one, FSU has played no one, OU has played no one and almost lost to UTEP. I just don't see where the complaints about the top 2 are coming from.

I personally have no problem with the top 2. Alabama is obvious and the only team to beat LSU in the last season plus is Alabama.

Not sure I am sold on Georgia. Do they have another season where they miss the best two teams in the conference..in other words, easiest possible conference schedule imaginable?


That's luck of the draw, the school doesn't set those so you can't fault them but they will see at least one of them if the course holds and they meet in the dome.

Hmmmmm maybe by then Richt may have them fired up by then........but I doubt it.
 
2012-09-16 04:27:49 PM

UNC_Samurai: This means Conference USA is the best conference in the country.


Nope, it means we need a proper playoff now, not later.
4 teams isn't enough, but it's a start. Increase the teams, work the bowl systems in and you'll have a proper playoff.
Then we'll look back at these shenanigans and realize they were popularity contests only.
 
2012-09-16 04:34:24 PM

lacydog: If you don't think the SEC is overrated, then please enlighten me as to why Florida is ranked so high? They don't have a single good QB, they've struggled against BOWLING GREEN of all teams, and they're coming off of a 6-6 season. Who thought they needed to be ranked before the season started at all? And what have they done to earn their current #14 ranking? They beat another overrated SEC team in Tennessee, who was 5-7 last year and has done nothing of note this year. That's supposed to be impressive?

I get that everyone has a hard-on for the SEC, but neither of those teams should've be ranked so damn high.




SEC teams are talked up by ESPN (a business partern with the SEC), and SEC teams are ranked highly at the beginning of the season so when they play each other it's easier to keep the actual good teams, such as Bama or LSU, high in the rankings through the season. It's also a mediocre Michigan team was ranked #8, so when Bama smoked them, it would give them sufficient cause to rank Bama even higher. It's a self full filling prophecy.
 
2012-09-16 04:36:47 PM

Kurmudgeon: UNC_Samurai: This means Conference USA is the best conference in the country.

Nope, it means we need a proper playoff now, not later.
4 teams isn't enough, but it's a start. Increase the teams, work the bowl systems in and you'll have a proper playoff.
Then we'll look back at these shenanigans and realize they were popularity contests only.


No it doesn't, what it means are decent players are filtering down thanks to being able to see film on kids no matter what college they are from but as Utah has shown, in a real conference they get worn down and would not be nearly as dominate. I remember Utah supporters talking about how they can't keep them out now that they are in a BCS conference, that worked out really well for them didn't it?
 
2012-09-16 04:37:33 PM

basemetal: OU is overrated in my opinion, until otherwise proven.


I'm looking forward to the Sooners' trip to and decimation in Morgantown.
 
2012-09-16 04:38:36 PM

bel4sucks: seelorq: That's the current ranking of the one other ranked team that UGA will play other than Florida at this time, so it serves as a benchmark of sorts to illustrate how weak their schedule is relative to Florida's at this time, barring no other movement in the rankings from now until the end of october.


Fixed to show ridiculousness


What part of "current ranking"--which I used more than once in my posts--do you not understand?

From your reply, apparently all of it.

It means the rankings that are current today, which reflect three weeks of play. That current rankings will change in the future is implicit.
 
2012-09-16 04:48:00 PM

Slow To Return: Alabama has a weak schedule again this year, and LSU's schedule this year is weak as well. Which means yet again, one of those teams will go undefeated, while the other has just the one loss to the other.

Get ready for the re-re-re-re-match.


This is the same excuse they used against the SEC last year when they beat #3 Oregon, #25 Mississippi State, #16 West Virginia, #17 Florida, #19 Auburn, #2 Alabama, #3 Arkansas, #12 Georgia. Alabama played against Mississippi State, Arkansas, and Florida, as well as #23 Penn State. Arkansas (which finished #5 and was ranked high as #3 before losing to the #1 team) faced and beat the #10, 11, 14, and 15 teams and only lost to LSU and Alabama. Unranked Auburn still faced 6 top-ten teams albeit Georgia was #14 at the time. These numbers are even higher when you consider teams like Clemson ended #22.

You can't play Oregon and West Virginia as your OOC games every year. Hell, after App. State beach Michigan, LSU played them the year after that (and while you might say it didn't matter given it was FCS... no major school played them again until 2010).

The easy schedule has never been a good argument. Boise State rocked Oklahoma multiple times. Give it a rest.
 
2012-09-16 04:48:46 PM
When LSU beat* rather than when they beat. My bad.
 
2012-09-16 04:49:38 PM

seelorq: bel4sucks: seelorq: That's the current ranking of the one other ranked team that UGA will play other than Florida at this time, so it serves as a benchmark of sorts to illustrate how weak their schedule is relative to Florida's at this time, barring no other movement in the rankings from now until the end of october.


Fixed to show ridiculousness

What part of "current ranking"--which I used more than once in my posts--do you not understand?

From your reply, apparently all of it.

It means the rankings that are current today, which reflect three weeks of play. That current rankings will change in the future is implicit.


Your problem is you use the crappy rankings to try and make a point for how another team is overrated because they don't play enough ranked teams. Do you not see the conundrum?

UT won't be ranked by the end and FSU is way overrated, LSU may be as well but we aren't sure yet.
 
2012-09-16 04:50:01 PM
Notre Dame beat a crappy Big 10 team and jumped up 9 spots; this means Obama is disqualified and the Pope is now President.
 
2012-09-16 04:50:52 PM
Stop me if you've heard this one: there's football on BOTH sides of the Mississippi river.
 
2012-09-16 04:51:57 PM

McManus_brothers: Notre Dame beat a crappy Big 10 team and jumped up 9 spots; this means Obama is disqualified and the Pope is now President.


The Big Ten is really really really bad.
 
2012-09-16 04:53:03 PM

seelorq: What part of "current ranking"--which I used more than once in my posts--do you not understand?

From your reply, apparently all of it.

It means the rankings that are current today, which reflect three weeks of play. That current rankings will change in the future is implicit.


Because the whole point you're trying to make is just dumb. You make an arbitrary "top 7" limit, after week three, so supposedly show dominance of a schedule for a reason I don't even think you understand. What's the point of bringing up a team that has ranking now, that might not have it when they play? You're touting the last game of the season against FSU, who might not be ranked, and then number 7 S Car who wouldn't be number 7 if UGA beats them before you get to them, and then the reverse of that is that UGA won't be ranked "top 7" if they lose to S Car either.
 
2012-09-16 04:53:35 PM

Chunks McGunks: Dafatone: There's a whoooole lot of "why is this team ranked" or "why is this team ranked so high" going on.

Who should be ranked higher? Who isn't ranked that should be?

I've asked myself that a time or two this season and haven't come up with a good answer yet.


I really don't want Alabama to have the big target on it's collective back, but I can't either.
Florida State looks good, but they are saddled with the ACC. Notre Dame will, in my opinion, definitely deserve the top rank if they make it through the season undefeated. I don't think they will though.
 
2012-09-16 05:00:48 PM
The south is that squeaky wheel that the world needs to throw in the incinerator and upgrade to warp drive from.
 
2012-09-16 05:07:30 PM

steamingpile: seelorq: bel4sucks: seelorq: That's the current ranking of the one other ranked team that UGA will play other than Florida at this time, so it serves as a benchmark of sorts to illustrate how weak their schedule is relative to Florida's at this time, barring no other movement in the rankings from now until the end of october.


Fixed to show ridiculousness

What part of "current ranking"--which I used more than once in my posts--do you not understand?

From your reply, apparently all of it.

It means the rankings that are current today, which reflect three weeks of play. That current rankings will change in the future is implicit.

Your problem is you use the crappy rankings to try and make a point for how another team is overrated because they don't play enough ranked teams. Do you not see the conundrum?

UT won't be ranked by the end and FSU is way overrated, LSU may be as well but we aren't sure yet.


You don't like the rankings. Fine. I don't think they are perfect either...but its what we've got, and they represent the consensus of insiders. I didn't say Georgia was overrated. I said relative to Florida at current rankings, their strength of schedule was weaker in reply to srhp29, who asked about the difficulty of Georgia's SEC schedule.
 
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2012-09-16 05:19:54 PM
I like how USA Today pretends that tOSU doesn't exist.
 
2012-09-16 05:20:15 PM

Kurmudgeon: UNC_Samurai: This means Conference USA is the best conference in the country.

Nope, it means we need a proper playoff now, not later.
4 teams isn't enough, but it's a start. Increase the teams, work the bowl systems in and you'll have a proper playoff.
Then we'll look back at these shenanigans and realize they were popularity contests only.


At which point, Texas A&M will award themselves a couple more championships.
 
2012-09-16 05:21:39 PM

TofuTheAlmighty: basemetal: OU is overrated in my opinion, until otherwise proven.

I'm looking forward to the Sooners' trip to and decimation in Morgantown.


I'm glad you guys are in our conference, an upgrade over those losers that just left. I hope we introduce you properly, however.
 
2012-09-16 05:23:34 PM

basemetal: TofuTheAlmighty: basemetal: OU is overrated in my opinion, until otherwise proven.

I'm looking forward to the Sooners' trip to and decimation in Morgantown.

I'm glad you guys are in our conference, an upgrade over those losers that just left. I hope we introduce you properly, however.


Oh, and it's not like we have bragging rights on our last meeting...........so don't count me as overly confident.
 
2012-09-16 05:31:06 PM
If ND goes 11-1 or 12-0, ESPN would dynamite an orphange if necessary to make sure that the Irish are in the championship game.

ND vs. Alabama? They would shoot spooge on the ISS' windows.
 
2012-09-16 05:33:47 PM

TheOther: ND vs. Alabama? They would shoot spooge on the ISS' windows.


Heh! Yes they would, yes they would.
 
2012-09-16 05:44:02 PM

seelorq: steamingpile: seelorq: bel4sucks: seelorq: That's the current ranking of the one other ranked team that UGA will play other than Florida at this time, so it serves as a benchmark of sorts to illustrate how weak their schedule is relative to Florida's at this time, barring no other movement in the rankings from now until the end of october.


Fixed to show ridiculousness

What part of "current ranking"--which I used more than once in my posts--do you not understand?

From your reply, apparently all of it.

It means the rankings that are current today, which reflect three weeks of play. That current rankings will change in the future is implicit.

Your problem is you use the crappy rankings to try and make a point for how another team is overrated because they don't play enough ranked teams. Do you not see the conundrum?

UT won't be ranked by the end and FSU is way overrated, LSU may be as well but we aren't sure yet.

You don't like the rankings. Fine. I don't think they are perfect either...but its what we've got, and they represent the consensus of insiders. I didn't say Georgia was overrated. I said relative to Florida at current rankings, their strength of schedule was weaker in reply to srhp29, who asked about the difficulty of Georgia's SEC schedule.


I don't see it much harder outside of two games, besides UF would still have lost at least one of those two games no matter who they played.

Either way using the rankings to imply anything is stupid at this date.
 
2012-09-16 05:45:57 PM

Chunks McGunks: OU has played no one and almost lost to UTEP


Uhm, the OU-UTEP game I saw had UTEP scoring a total of 7 points (scoring only on a blocked punt early in the first), and getting beat by more than 2 touchdowns, while generating a whopping FOUR YARDS total offense in the 4th quarter.

Which OU-UTEP game did you see?
 
2012-09-16 05:46:33 PM

TheOther: If ND goes 11-1 or 12-0, ESPN would dynamite an orphange if necessary to make sure that the Irish are in the championship game.

ND vs. Alabama? They would shoot spooge on the ISS' windows.


Hell, we'd be Christy Canyon to ESPN's Peter North.
 
2012-09-16 05:47:11 PM

Funk Brothers: I think if Notre Dame can beat Michigan, they might have a chance of being a contender for the National Championship this year. They have a tough schedule this year playing against Michigan, Stanford, BYU, Oklahoma, and USC. I think their easiest teams are Navy and Wake Forest.

If Notre Dame can contain Denard Robinson Denise Richards, they will win next Saturday night.


FTFY
 
2012-09-16 05:58:28 PM

SevenizGud: Chunks McGunks: OU has played no one and almost lost to UTEP

Uhm, the OU-UTEP game I saw had UTEP scoring a total of 7 points (scoring only on a blocked punt early in the first), and getting beat by more than 2 touchdowns, while generating a whopping FOUR YARDS total offense in the 4th quarter.

Which OU-UTEP game did you see?


Really? You're trying to argue OU played well in that game? If that was OU playing well go ahead and knock them down to 20 or so.
 
2012-09-16 05:59:22 PM
#1 and #2 deserve it, but after watching Oregon yesterday play so sloppy during the first half against that cupcake, I'm not sure they should be at #3. A good team would've turned Oregon's mistakes into a lot of points.
 
2012-09-16 06:08:33 PM

TheOther: If ND goes 11-1 or 12-0, ESPN would dynamite an orphange if necessary to make sure that the Irish are in the championship game.

ND vs. Alabama? They would shoot spooge on the ISS' windows.


Any conference hoping to portray the SEC as overrated better pray to god this match up doesn't happen.
 
2012-09-16 06:15:01 PM

Chunks McGunks: You're trying to argue OU played well in that game?


Uhm, reading comprehension is not really your thing is it? Let's see if you can distinguish the following two concepts:

1. Almost losing.
2. Playing well.

Do you see the difference? Of course you don't, because you have the intelligence of a sponge. So let me hold your hand all the way through, mmmkay, boobsy-boo?

You see, the issue was ALMOST LOSING. My post was directed to the concept of ALMOST LOSING.

How is it that one could argue that a team "almost lost" when the other team's offense scored ZERO POINTS?

Do you understand now, or do I need to draw you a picture in crayola so that it will be more your speed? 

Let's summarize the UTEP drives:

FG miss
punt
punt
punt
FG miss
downs
punt
punt
FG miss
downs
punt
punt
punt

In what farking world is that "almost losing"? Did they "almost lose" because UTEP almost made a field goal?
 
2012-09-16 06:32:23 PM

SevenizGud: Chunks McGunks: You're trying to argue OU played well in that game?

Uhm, reading comprehension is not really your thing is it? Let's see if you can distinguish the following two concepts:

1. Almost losing.
2. Playing well.

Do you see the difference? Of course you don't, because you have the intelligence of a sponge. So let me hold your hand all the way through, mmmkay, boobsy-boo?

You see, the issue was ALMOST LOSING. My post was directed to the concept of ALMOST LOSING.

How is it that one could argue that a team "almost lost" when the other team's offense scored ZERO POINTS?

Do you understand now, or do I need to draw you a picture in crayola so that it will be more your speed? 

Let's summarize the UTEP drives:

FG miss
punt
punt
punt
FG miss
downs
punt
punt
FG miss
downs
punt
punt
punt

In what farking world is that "almost losing"? Did they "almost lose" because UTEP almost made a field goal?


I'm sorry I have offended you. I did not realize you were so sensitive.
 
2012-09-16 06:35:19 PM

Chunks McGunks: I'm sorry I have offended you. I did not realize you were so sensitive.


Two counts of false premise.

You said OU "almost lost". I am just pointing out that 24-7 is not almost losing. Winning in overtime is almost losing. Winning on a FG late is almost losing. The other team missing a FG late is almost losing. Winning by more than 2 touchdowns is not almost losing.
 
2012-09-16 06:58:26 PM

Funk Brothers: I think if Notre Dame can beat Michigan, they might have a chance of being a contender for the National Championship this year. They have a tough schedule this year playing against Michigan, Stanford, BYU, Oklahoma, and USC. I think their easiest teams are Navy and Wake Forest.

If Notre Dame can contain Denard Robinson, they will win next Saturday night.


Thanks, Lou!
 
2012-09-16 07:00:55 PM

Your Average Witty Fark User: Stop me if you've heard this one: there's football on BOTH sides of the Mississippi river.


Sure - but West of the Mississippi, it's not as good.
 
2012-09-16 07:01:40 PM

das: I like how USA Today pretends that tOSU doesn't exist.


USA Today Top 25 is factored into the BCS Ranking. Since Ohio State can't bowl this season, they're not ranked. The AP Top 25 is more representative of teams that can and can't bowl.
 
2012-09-16 07:07:07 PM

Krymson Tyde: I really don't want Alabama to have the big target on it's collective back, but I can't either.


Honestly, me either. Michigan isn't great, but they're still good and Robinson got chased out of Tuscaloosa with his tail between his legs. I think its Alabama #1 and the rest doesn't matter until someone beats the Tide.
 
2012-09-16 07:12:52 PM
Notre Dame has no business being ranked in the top 25. Their conference schedule is so weak, even Boise State plays a tougher one.
 
2012-09-16 07:18:58 PM
Fark it, go Irish.
 
2012-09-16 07:21:27 PM

wjmorris3: Notre Dame has no business being ranked in the top 25. Their conference schedule is so weak, even Boise State plays a tougher one.


Good show!
 
2012-09-16 07:45:41 PM

Funk Brothers: das: I like how USA Today pretends that tOSU doesn't exist.

USA Today Top 25 is factored into the BCS Ranking. Since Ohio State can't bowl this season, they're not ranked. The AP Top 25 is more representative of teams that can and can't bowl.


After almost losing to a lower rung Pac 12 school on their own field (one that lost to Nevada @ Berkley earlier this year), maybe the USA Today poll is more realistic in how it portrays how good tOSU is though.
 
2012-09-16 08:00:45 PM
Very ironic tag, Subby. Satiric even.
 
2012-09-16 08:05:45 PM
Full disclosure: Die-hard Duck. Been a fan for 35+ years, went to school at Oregon from '89 - '93.

If they played the game today, at a neutral field, Alabama beats the Ducks. An LSU game would be closer, but I wouldn't be surprised if the Ducks lost that one, too.

Hypothetical time....

Ducks win out and go to the NC.

Winner of the Bama/LSU game on November 3rd goes undefeated, too.

Whichever SEC team that is meets the Ducks at the Natty in Florida (and their fans will travel better to Florida).

I suspect the margin of victory in that game is bigger than the Auburn/Oregon game from 2 years ago.

/this 'Bama team is scary good. Sort of like Miami in in '01/'02
 
2012-09-16 08:19:16 PM

das: I like how USA Today pretends that tOSU doesn't exist.


Really, they squeaked by Cal at home, who is arguably the 8th best team in the Pac-12, maybe 7th depends on whether or not BOTH AZ schools get their shiat together.

And that's what you want to stake your claim to greatness on? Who else have they played? UCF? Miami, OH? Who's next? UAB? You realize that's Birmingham NOT Tuscaloosa right? Then on to the shiatty B1G (little) schedule? GTFO
 
2012-09-16 08:29:16 PM

seelorq: Yes. UGA got it easy this year. By current rankings, they will play just one top 7 team for the rest of the season (#7, South Carolina). Florida, by way, will play four, including LSU.


So, Florida's schedule is tougher than Georgia's, in part, because Florida has to play Georgia. Meanwhile, Georgia only has to play Florida. You're a farking idiot, even though Florida's schedule is tougher.
 
2012-09-16 08:33:54 PM

Lee's_Austin: lacydog: If you don't think the SEC is overrated, then please enlighten me as to why Florida is ranked so high? They don't have a single good QB, they've struggled against BOWLING GREEN of all teams, and they're coming off of a 6-6 season. Who thought they needed to be ranked before the season started at all? And what have they done to earn their current #14 ranking? They beat another overrated SEC team in Tennessee, who was 5-7 last year and has done nothing of note this year. That's supposed to be impressive?

I get that everyone has a hard-on for the SEC, but neither of those teams should've be ranked so damn high.

What, in your opinion, is not good about Jeff Driskel.


Moreover, what has UF done to *not* deserve a ranking at this point? They rolled up 555 yds of offense on the road in Neyland stadium, they've outscored their two conference opponents 34-6 in two 2nd halves, Driskel is still learning but they've not turned the ball over in the past two games and scored 2 picks against Bray on Saturday.

Tennessee may not be a conference-winning team, but they're better than they've been in many years. A&M has a new freshman QB but the dude has a lot of natural talent.

Who else below them on the list has played harder road games, won, and consistently improved from week to week? Who really deserves to be ranked higher right now?
 
2012-09-16 08:57:02 PM

ShamWowofDamocles: Full disclosure: Die-hard Duck. Been a fan for 35+ years, went to school at Oregon from '89 - '93.

If they played the game today, at a neutral field, Alabama beats the Ducks. An LSU game would be closer, but I wouldn't be surprised if the Ducks lost that one, too.

Hypothetical time....

Ducks win out and go to the NC.

Winner of the Bama/LSU game on November 3rd goes undefeated, too.

Whichever SEC team that is meets the Ducks at the Natty in Florida (and their fans will travel better to Florida).

I suspect the margin of victory in that game is bigger than the Auburn/Oregon game from 2 years ago.

/this 'Bama team is scary good. Sort of like Miami in in '01/'02


I hope they continue looking that good. The thing is this was supposed to be a down year, especially defensively.
 
2012-09-16 09:12:38 PM
Who else, though? There are all of 28 undefeated BCS schools left, half of which are in the SEC and the Big 12. The B1G has collectively shot itself in the foot, Oregon, WVU, and Florida State have spent their Septembers laying waste to Our Sisters of the Poor, and the ACC's third-best team just lost to Pitt. Stanford would probably be higher if they hadn't played so poorly against SJSU.

And anybody who says Alabama hasn't looked like the best team in the country so far is just lying.
 
2012-09-16 09:25:51 PM
Woo, Arizona's up to #22! Who are we playing next week?

...Aw sh*t.

/Bear Down
 
2012-09-16 10:52:51 PM

Your Average Witty Fark User: Stop me if you've heard this one: there's football on BOTH sides of the Mississippi river.


Of course there is.. Arkansas, Missouri, A&M and LSU.
 
2012-09-16 10:55:27 PM

rugman11: Who else, though? There are all of 28 undefeated BCS schools left, half of which are in the SEC and the Big 12. The B1G has collectively shot itself in the foot, Oregon, WVU, and Florida State have spent their Septembers laying waste to Our Sisters of the Poor, and the ACC's third-best team just lost to Pitt. Stanford would probably be higher if they hadn't played so poorly against SJSU.

And anybody who says Alabama hasn't looked like the best team in the country so far is just lying.


Point of order: There are 27 undefeated teams in BCS conferences, not 28. (ACC 2, Big Ten 3, Big East 3, Pac-12 5, SEC 6, Big XII 8).
 
2012-09-16 11:08:30 PM

wjmorris3: Notre Dame has no business being ranked in the top 25. Their conference schedule is so weak, even Boise State plays a tougher one.


Yeah, you know that's not true besides Notre dame beat the team that beat Boise, case closed.
 
2012-09-16 11:17:00 PM
Leave it to Yahoo to make me go to Google to find the actual poll they are discussing in the article.
 
2012-09-16 11:30:24 PM

Confabulat: Leave it to Yahoo to make me go to Google to find the actual poll they are discussing in the article.


Or to the top of the page, where it says "Rankings"
 
2012-09-16 11:34:49 PM

Mentat: Your Average Witty Fark User: Stop me if you've heard this one: there's football on BOTH sides of the Mississippi river.

Of course there is.. Arkansas, Missouri, A&M and LSU.


BURN!
 
2012-09-17 07:45:33 AM

bemis23: Lee's_Austin: lacydog: If you don't think the SEC is overrated, then please enlighten me as to why Florida is ranked so high? They don't have a single good QB, they've struggled against BOWLING GREEN of all teams, and they're coming off of a 6-6 season. Who thought they needed to be ranked before the season started at all? And what have they done to earn their current #14 ranking? They beat another overrated SEC team in Tennessee, who was 5-7 last year and has done nothing of note this year. That's supposed to be impressive?

I get that everyone has a hard-on for the SEC, but neither of those teams should've be ranked so damn high.

What, in your opinion, is not good about Jeff Driskel.

Moreover, what has UF done to *not* deserve a ranking at this point? They rolled up 555 yds of offense on the road in Neyland stadium, they've outscored their two conference opponents 34-6 in two 2nd halves, Driskel is still learning but they've not turned the ball over in the past two games and scored 2 picks against Bray on Saturday.

Tennessee may not be a conference-winning team, but they're better than they've been in many years. A&M has a new freshman QB but the dude has a lot of natural talent.

Who else below them on the list has played harder road games, won, and consistently improved from week to week? Who really deserves to be ranked higher right now?


As a UF fan expecting a terrible, terrible season this year, THIS. Sure they haven't beaten any top 10 teams, but going on the road for your first two conference games, and displaying some impressive second half dominance has to count for something. I do thing they are rated a little high, but their upcoming game vs LSU should sort things right out. Their huge beatdown of Tennessee, AT Tennessee, no less, should at least prove that they belong in the top 20. And Driskel has gone from, "OMG WTF IS THIS ROUND OBJECT THEY KEEP HANDING ME" in game one, to "Ok, I have the round ball again, should I toss it to one of the guys running down the field before 15 seconds have elapsed?", in game two, to "Meh, unblocked blitz off the edge, let me casually find the open receiver and fire a strike down the field for a first down" in game 3. If he keeps this up he could well be a Heisman contender next year. Yeah, Ok, I'm getting too excited. But compared to the 6-7 sadness I was expecting this year, this has been a great start.
 
2012-09-17 09:24:14 AM

Sm3agol85: As a UF fan expecting a terrible, terrible season this year, THIS. Sure they haven't beaten any top 10 teams, but going on the road for your first two conference games, and displaying some impressive second half dominance has to count for something.


You're right. Florida is doing great right now. Congrats so far.
 
2012-09-17 10:11:16 AM
Slow To Return: Alabama has a weak schedule again this year.

When the schedule was made, Michigan was a lot higher, and Arkansas hadn't lost their coach and QB.

chuggernaught:SEC teams are talked up by ESPN (a business partern with the SEC).

It was just July when I saw ESPN announcers pick USC, Oklahoma, and Florida State to go to the National Championship. They were calling Alabama's team too young. I think their second love affair with USC was pretty short-lived this time. They'll be jumping back on their Ohio State bandwagon soon enough.
 
2012-09-17 11:25:19 AM
A suitable opponent for Alabama better show up soon. Nick's third stringers are getting tired running in TDs.
 
2012-09-17 11:34:04 AM

Kangaroo_Ralph: Slow To Return: Alabama has a weak schedule again this year.

When the schedule was made, Michigan was a lot higher, and Arkansas hadn't lost their coach and QB.


Yeah, I'm not entirely certain how that Arkansas win will hold up, but Michigan should do fine. The problem that Alabama and LSU have this year is that the SEC is extremely top-heavy. They're clearly awesome. Florida and Georgia might be good but are probably going to wet the bed at least once (and Alabama doesn't play either of them). USCe is going to put a classic Spurrier season where they go 9-3 or 10-2 with one decent win over Florida or Georgia and then a bunch of way to close wins over the dregs of the league. Outside of those teams, the rest of the conference ranges somewhere between mediocre and terrible. Auburn? Terrible. Kentucky? Terrible? Ole Miss and Vandy? Terrible. Arkansas might be good with Tyler Wilson, but he didn't give up 34 points to ULM and 52 to Bama.

That said, the big conferences in general are kind of awful this year. Assuming these teams all end up with one loss, Florida State's third best win will probably be Virginia Tech (lost to Pitt). Oregon's third-best win will be...Oregon State? Oklahoma's third-best win will be TCU, maybe.

The Big 12 looks the deepest, but they've compensated for the nine game conference schedule by loading up on patsies in the non-conference slate, so who knows how good they really are.

chuggernaught:SEC teams are talked up by ESPN (a business partern with the SEC).

It was just July when I saw ESPN announcers pick USC, Oklahoma, and Florida State to go to the National Championship. They were calling Alabama's team too young. I think their second love affair with USC was pretty short-lived this time. They'll be jumping back on their Ohio State bandwagon soon enough.


Yeah, I don't know how anybody can think ESPN are SEC homers. I certainly lost that illusion last year after they biatched about a potential LSU-Bama rematch after the first game then, the very next week after Oregon beat Stanford, started pumping up a potential Oregon-LSU rematch. ESPN will pump up any big-name team. God help us if Notre Dame gets to 9-0.
 
2012-09-17 11:37:01 AM

Mad Scientist: A suitable opponent for Alabama better show up soon. Nick's third stringers are getting tired running in TDs.


Kenyan Drake, Alabama's leading rusher against Arkansas, is the FIFTH-string running back. They also got 18 yards out of the sixth-string walk-on.
 
2012-09-17 12:09:11 PM
All this squabbling, and yet I'm sure that most of us agree that the whole problem is how important pre-season rankings are. Does college basketball put any credence into pre-season rankings? Does any other sport for that matter?

Now, Alabama played like a juggernaut (for once) in the NCG last season, which was convincing. However, someone mentioned them beating Top-25 Penn State last year. I watched that game; it was painful. Penn State didn't deserve to be Top 25 then, and proved it the entire rest of the season, staggering through their schedule to finish 2nd in their division and losing to Houston by a lot in the whatever bowl.

Alabama murdered "ranked" Arkansas (#21 USA Today) this weekend. Arkansas lost to UL-Monroe the week before, so this was no surprise whatsoever. So is this really a "ranked opponent" victory, a resume bullet? No. Please note that this is coming from a person that believes that there is only a race for #2 this year.

The pre-season rankings are horse sh*t. At least the BCS doesn't kick in until what, week 5 or 6? Of course, that's 2/3 comprised of the human polls, tainted by pre-season garbage.
 
2012-09-17 12:54:55 PM

Lee's_Austin: lacydog: If you don't think the SEC is overrated, then please enlighten me as to why Florida is ranked so high? They don't have a single good QB, they've struggled against BOWLING GREEN of all teams, and they're coming off of a 6-6 season. Who thought they needed to be ranked before the season started at all? And what have they done to earn their current #14 ranking? They beat another overrated SEC team in Tennessee, who was 5-7 last year and has done nothing of note this year. That's supposed to be impressive?

I get that everyone has a hard-on for the SEC, but neither of those teams should've be ranked so damn high.

What, in your opinion, is not good about Jeff Driskel.


+1. I'm a diehard Nole, but I thought before the year began that Florida would be a lot better than people thought. They've settled on a quarterback, have four years of legendary recruiting classes, and crazy speed. The fact that Driskell looks pretty good so far has me really worried about November 24th.
 
2012-09-17 01:05:32 PM

factoryconnection: All this squabbling, and yet I'm sure that most of us agree that the whole problem is how important pre-season rankings are. Does college basketball put any credence into pre-season rankings? Does any other sport for that matter?

Now, Alabama played like a juggernaut (for once) in the NCG last season, which was convincing. However, someone mentioned them beating Top-25 Penn State last year. I watched that game; it was painful. Penn State didn't deserve to be Top 25 then, and proved it the entire rest of the season, staggering through their schedule to finish 2nd in their division and losing to Houston by a lot in the whatever bowl.

Alabama murdered "ranked" Arkansas (#21 USA Today) this weekend. Arkansas lost to UL-Monroe the week before, so this was no surprise whatsoever. So is this really a "ranked opponent" victory, a resume bullet? No. Please note that this is coming from a person that believes that there is only a race for #2 this year.

The pre-season rankings are horse sh*t. At least the BCS doesn't kick in until what, week 5 or 6? Of course, that's 2/3 comprised of the human polls, tainted by pre-season garbage.


As everyone keeps saying all thread, if teams X and Y and Z don't deserve to be ranked, who DOES? You can't just drop teams from the rankings without replacing them.

/I agree that preseason rankings suck.
 
2012-09-17 01:16:04 PM

Mad Scientist: A suitable opponent for Alabama better show up soon. Nick's third stringers are getting tired running walking in TDs.


FTFY
 
2012-09-17 02:56:34 PM

Dafatone: As everyone keeps saying all thread, if teams X and Y and Z don't deserve to be ranked, who DOES? You can't just drop teams from the rankings without replacing them.


I hear you, and later in the season I totally agree. However it is difficult to answer the "replacement" question this early in the season, because of (IMHO) the same inherent weaknesses in assigning pre-season rankings.
 
2012-09-17 03:28:19 PM

steamingpile: I remember Utah supporters talking about how they can't keep them out now that they are in a BCS conference, that worked out really well for them


False comparison is false, we still need a college playoff.
/nice try though
 
2012-09-17 04:36:26 PM

Mentat: Your Average Witty Fark User: Stop me if you've heard this one: there's football on BOTH sides of the Mississippi river.

Of course there is.. Arkansas, Missouri, A&M and LSU.


Someone needs a map.

www.esri.com
 
2012-09-17 05:09:52 PM

Kurmudgeon: False comparison is false, we still need a college playoff.
/nice try though



Y'all really going to be pissed when 2 of the 4 teams in the playoff are still Alabama and LSU.
 
2012-09-17 05:13:03 PM

Browncoat: Kurmudgeon: False comparison is false, we still need a college playoff.
/nice try though


Y'all really going to be pissed when 2 of the 4 teams in the playoff are still Alabama and LSU.


especially if they are on opposite sides of the bracket.
 
2012-09-18 06:00:17 AM

Browncoat: Kurmudgeon: False comparison is false, we still need a college playoff.
/nice try though


Y'all really going to be pissed when 2 of the 4 teams in the playoff are still Alabama and LSU.


Last year people wouldn't have been pissed. It was pretty obvious that Bama was one of the four best teams in the country. People just wanted OSU (the one that plays good football) and possibly Oregon to have a shot.
 
2012-09-18 06:50:11 AM

pion: It was pretty obvious that Bama was one of the four best teams in the country.


FTFY.
 
2012-09-18 01:02:57 PM

Browncoat: Kurmudgeon: False comparison is false, we still need a college playoff.
/nice try though


Y'all really going to be pissed when 2 of the 4 teams in the playoff are still Alabama and LSU.


Gonna be really pissed when at least three SEC teams are voted into the playoff (wait, are there rules against that? I'm pretty sure at some point there will be some resistance to it not being just the top 4 teams...then there will be an expansion, because there's always an expansion - after all, once you have a playoff, it makes money, and you you know what makes more money? A bigger playoff. You know what makes more than that? A bigger playoff. More than that? A bigger playoff. Which is why FCS has gone from a 4-team playoff to a 24-team playoff in the past four decades.

1978: 4-team playoff
1981: 8-team playoff
1982: 12-team playoff
1986: 16-team playoff
2010: 20-team playoff
2013: 24-team playoff

Nah, but I'm sure that FBS will stop at a reasonable amount, even though playoff creep has occurred in every single sports league to ever have playoffs.
 
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