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2012-09-16 02:06:55 PM
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2012-09-16 02:43:26 PM
If you don't think the SEC is overrated, then please enlighten me as to why Florida is ranked so high? They don't have a single good QB, they've struggled against BOWLING GREEN of all teams, and they're coming off of a 6-6 season. Who thought they needed to be ranked before the season started at all? And what have they done to earn their current #14 ranking? They beat another overrated SEC team in Tennessee, who was 5-7 last year and has done nothing of note this year. That's supposed to be impressive?

I get that everyone has a hard-on for the SEC, but neither of those teams should've be ranked so damn high.
 
2012-09-16 02:47:43 PM

lacydog: If you don't think the SEC is overrated, then please enlighten me as to why Florida is ranked so high? They don't have a single good QB, they've struggled against BOWLING GREEN of all teams, and they're coming off of a 6-6 season. Who thought they needed to be ranked before the season started at all? And what have they done to earn their current #14 ranking? They beat another overrated SEC team in Tennessee, who was 5-7 last year and has done nothing of note this year. That's supposed to be impressive?

I get that everyone has a hard-on for the SEC, but neither of those teams should've be ranked so damn high.


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2012-09-16 02:51:28 PM
SEC is overrated, mostly. See Arkansas for evidence evidence of that, as well as the above mentioned Florida and Tennessee.

However, and as an LSU alum it pains me to keep having to say this, Bama is frighteningly good and cannot be argued against. We're number 2 until somebody shows otherwise. Georgia has a damn good team as well. The overrated situation is more in the middle of the pack SEC teams, and it was the same way last year.
 
2012-09-16 03:00:59 PM
I think if Notre Dame can beat Michigan, they might have a chance of being a contender for the National Championship this year. They have a tough schedule this year playing against Michigan, Stanford, BYU, Oklahoma, and USC. I think their easiest teams are Navy and Wake Forest.

If Notre Dame can contain Denard Robinson, they will win next Saturday night.
 
2012-09-16 03:01:40 PM
I guess I'm the only one that noticed Notre Dame jumped from #20 to #11 for beating another crappy Big 10 team.
 
2012-09-16 03:05:19 PM
As an ACC fan, I think I'm going to sit down this season and let the grown up conferences argue about who is or isn't overrated.

/So far, this season has been embarrassing. And it doesn't feel like it'll get much better.
 
2012-09-16 03:07:30 PM
Alabama has a weak schedule again this year, and LSU's schedule this year is weak as well. Which means yet again, one of those teams will go undefeated, while the other has just the one loss to the other.

Get ready for the re-re-re-re-match.
 
2012-09-16 03:16:30 PM
I just thought it funny to have all of the So Cal dick smokers on TV have to choke on it.

/Ala is the no.1 in my opinion
//Big XII boy
 
2012-09-16 03:17:40 PM
The a href="http://espn.go.com/college-football/rankings/_/poll/1/week/4" target="_blank">complete rankings/a>, in case anyone is interested.
 
2012-09-16 03:18:29 PM

Robo Beat: The a href="http://espn.go.com/college-football/rankings/_/poll/1/week/4" target="_blank">complete rankings/a>, in case anyone is interested.


Html fail.

Anyway, the link is in there if you want it.
 
2012-09-16 03:25:16 PM

Slow To Return: Alabama has a weak schedule again this year, and LSU's schedule this year is weak as well. Which means yet again, one of those teams will go undefeated, while the other has just the one loss to the other.

Get ready for the re-re-re-re-match.


I'd hate to see my Tigers continue to lose to Bama in hugely over-hyped games (we were incredibly lucky to win the regular season game last year). BUT, we've got them under the lights in Death Valley this year, so we've got that going for us, which is nice.
 
2012-09-16 03:25:20 PM
I'm curious as to who everyone complaining about LSU being #2 would stick in that slot. Oregon has played no one, FSU has played no one, OU has played no one and almost lost to UTEP. I just don't see where the complaints about the top 2 are coming from.
 
2012-09-16 03:30:17 PM

Chunks McGunks: OU has played no one and almost lost to UTEP


OU is overrated in my opinion, until otherwise proven.

/OU fan.
//OU season ticket holder since Gibbs
///Switzer if you count my student tix
 
2012-09-16 03:36:27 PM

Chunks McGunks: I'm curious as to who everyone complaining about LSU being #2 would stick in that slot. Oregon has played no one, FSU has played no one, OU has played no one and almost lost to UTEP. I just don't see where the complaints about the top 2 are coming from.


I personally have no problem with the top 2. Alabama is obvious and the only team to beat LSU in the last season plus is Alabama.

Not sure I am sold on Georgia. Do they have another season where they miss the best two teams in the conference..in other words, easiest possible conference schedule imaginable?
 
2012-09-16 03:45:18 PM

theurge14: I guess I'm the only one that noticed Notre Dame jumped from #20 to #11 for beating another crappy Big 10 team.


I noticed, and even as an Irish Fan I'm surprised, not that they moved up mind you, but that they basically swapped the two teams positions and had the Irish. I honestly wouldn't have ND in the Top 15 unless they beat Michigan and go into OK undefeated. (I do believe if the Irish make it through the season undefeated then they should be in the NC game, yes over a one loss any other team.)

I think people like to get all their complaints out every week as if the season ends today and now it's time for a national championship game.
 
2012-09-16 03:47:22 PM

srhp29: Chunks McGunks: I'm curious as to who everyone complaining about LSU being #2 would stick in that slot. Oregon has played no one, FSU has played no one, OU has played no one and almost lost to UTEP. I just don't see where the complaints about the top 2 are coming from.

I personally have no problem with the top 2. Alabama is obvious and the only team to beat LSU in the last season plus is Alabama.

Not sure I am sold on Georgia. Do they have another season where they miss the best two teams in the conference..in other words, easiest possible conference schedule imaginable?


Yes they do. If they ever learn to start playing at the beginning of games they'll have the honor of getting beat by Alabama or LSU (again) in Atlanta at the end of the year.
/big if
 
2012-09-16 03:48:21 PM

srhp29: Chunks McGunks: I'm curious as to who everyone complaining about LSU being #2 would stick in that slot. Oregon has played no one, FSU has played no one, OU has played no one and almost lost to UTEP. I just don't see where the complaints about the top 2 are coming from.

I personally have no problem with the top 2. Alabama is obvious and the only team to beat LSU in the last season plus is Alabama.

Not sure I am sold on Georgia. Do they have another season where they miss the best two teams in the conference..in other words, easiest possible conference schedule imaginable?


Yes. UGA got it easy this year. By current rankings, they will play just one top 7 team for the rest of the season (#7, South Carolina). Florida, by way, will play four, including LSU.
 
2012-09-16 03:49:10 PM

Funk Brothers: I think if Notre Dame can beat Michigan, they might have a chance of being a contender for the National Championship this year. They have a tough schedule this year playing against Michigan, Stanford, BYU, Oklahoma, and USC. I think their easiest teams are Navy and Wake Forest.

If Notre Dame can't contain Denard Robinson, they will win lose next Saturday night.


ftfy
 
2012-09-16 03:54:09 PM

seelorq: Yes. UGA got it easy this year. By current rankings, they will play just one top 7 team for the rest of the season (#7, South Carolina). Florida, by way, will play four, including LSU.


so we're stopping the ranking system at number 7 now?
 
2012-09-16 03:55:30 PM

AKTurkey: Funk Brothers: I think if Notre Dame can beat Michigan, they might have a chance of being a contender for the National Championship this year. They have a tough schedule this year playing against Michigan, Stanford, BYU, Oklahoma, and USC. I think their easiest teams are Navy and Wake Forest.

If Notre Dame can't contain Denard Robinson, they will win lose next Saturday night.

ftfy


I'm more or less hoping they watched the game tape of last year where Robinson runs all over them for a billiondy yards and someone says "SEE THIS??? STOP THAT!"
 
2012-09-16 03:58:16 PM
As a UT fan, I figured the Vols were overrated and wouldn't beat Florida, but there's nothing wrong with hoping this year would be different. Florida is not a very good team, and they will get exposed when they play some of the better SEC talent. But it sure was nice to see VT and USC go down in flames.

/my old boss was a USC fan, couldn't stand him
//coworker of mine was a VT fan, he wasn't too bad, but it's still fun to mess with him about it
///why couldn't Navy win?
 
2012-09-16 04:01:39 PM

bel4sucks: seelorq: Yes. UGA got it easy this year. By current rankings, they will play just one top 7 team for the rest of the season (#7, South Carolina). Florida, by way, will play four, including LSU.

so we're stopping the ranking system at number 7 now?


That's the current ranking of the one other ranked team that UGA will play other than Florida, so it serves as a benchmark of sorts to illustrate how weak their schedule is relative to Florida's.
 
2012-09-16 04:03:01 PM

lacydog: If you don't think the SEC is overrated, then please enlighten me as to why Florida is ranked so high? They don't have a single good QB, they've struggled against BOWLING GREEN of all teams, and they're coming off of a 6-6 season. Who thought they needed to be ranked before the season started at all? And what have they done to earn their current #14 ranking? They beat another overrated SEC team in Tennessee, who was 5-7 last year and has done nothing of note this year. That's supposed to be impressive?

I get that everyone has a hard-on for the SEC, but neither of those teams should've be ranked so damn high.


Florida is ranked because they're 2-0 in conference and just whipped a Tennessee team that some (not me) thought would contend for the East. Now personally, I don't think Florida is good enough to win the East, and they certainly aren't good enough to beat Alabama or LSU, which suggests to me that Florida's ranking will work itself out over the course of the season.
 
2012-09-16 04:04:06 PM

SamFlagg: AKTurkey: Funk Brothers: I think if Notre Dame can beat Michigan, they might have a chance of being a contender for the National Championship this year. They have a tough schedule this year playing against Michigan, Stanford, BYU, Oklahoma, and USC. I think their easiest teams are Navy and Wake Forest.

If Notre Dame can't contain Denard Robinson, they will win lose next Saturday night.

ftfy

I'm more or less hoping they watched the game tape of last year where Robinson runs all over them for a billiondy yards and someone says "SEE THIS??? STOP THAT!"


Not just last year; that's happened for each of the last 3 years. For some reason, Denard seems to put up video game numbers against ND every time.

Most likely that game will be close and tough for both teams.
 
2012-09-16 04:07:20 PM
There's a whoooole lot of "why is this team ranked" or "why is this team ranked so high" going on.

Who should be ranked higher? Who isn't ranked that should be?
 
2012-09-16 04:13:03 PM

lacydog: If you don't think the SEC is overrated, then please enlighten me as to why Florida is ranked so high? They don't have a single good QB, they've struggled against BOWLING GREEN of all teams, and they're coming off of a 6-6 season. Who thought they needed to be ranked before the season started at all? And what have they done to earn their current #14 ranking? They beat another overrated SEC team in Tennessee, who was 5-7 last year and has done nothing of note this year. That's supposed to be impressive?

I get that everyone has a hard-on for the SEC, but neither of those teams should've be ranked so damn high.


What, in your opinion, is not good about Jeff Driskel.
 
2012-09-16 04:16:36 PM

Dafatone: There's a whoooole lot of "why is this team ranked" or "why is this team ranked so high" going on.

Who should be ranked higher? Who isn't ranked that should be?


I've asked myself that a time or two this season and haven't come up with a good answer yet.
 
2012-09-16 04:18:01 PM

seelorq: That's the current ranking of the one other ranked team that UGA will play other than Florida at this time, so it serves as a benchmark of sorts to illustrate how weak their schedule is relative to Florida's at this time, barring no other movement in the rankings from now until the end of october.



Fixed to show ridiculousness
 
2012-09-16 04:18:23 PM

lacydog: If you don't think the SEC is overrated, then please enlighten me as to why Florida is ranked so high? They don't have a single good QB, they've struggled against BOWLING GREEN of all teams, and they're coming off of a 6-6 season. Who thought they needed to be ranked before the season started at all? And what have they done to earn their current #14 ranking? They beat another overrated SEC team in Tennessee, who was 5-7 last year and has done nothing of note this year. That's supposed to be impressive?

I get that everyone has a hard-on for the SEC, but neither of those teams should've be ranked so damn high.


It goes both ways, I will explain that if you explain why a shiatty team like FSU is ranked so high when they have played even shiattier teams.
 
2012-09-16 04:21:32 PM

bel4sucks: seelorq: Yes. UGA got it easy this year. By current rankings, they will play just one top 7 team for the rest of the season (#7, South Carolina). Florida, by way, will play four, including LSU.

so we're stopping the ranking system at number 7 now?


Florida will be lucky to be still ranked when they play Georgia. I'd be impressed if they didn't lose to all three teams after Kentucky. That said GTech will likely be ranked at the end of the year, and Georgia will play whoever wins the SEC West, unless they pull a 2007 and get to play Ohio in the Asskicking Bowl part 2 and complain that they should be in the NC game after they win 77-10
 
2012-09-16 04:22:13 PM
So you've established the SEC is overrated, and the Pac-12 is overrated because USC lost, the Big 10 is overrated because Nebraska and Wisconsin lost to unranked Pac-12 teams, the Big 12 is overrated because Oklahoma almost lost to UTEP and Oklahoma State lost to Arizona, and no one thinks the ACC and Big East are good conferences anyway.

This means Conference USA is the best conference in the country.
 
2012-09-16 04:24:33 PM

srhp29: Chunks McGunks: I'm curious as to who everyone complaining about LSU being #2 would stick in that slot. Oregon has played no one, FSU has played no one, OU has played no one and almost lost to UTEP. I just don't see where the complaints about the top 2 are coming from.

I personally have no problem with the top 2. Alabama is obvious and the only team to beat LSU in the last season plus is Alabama.

Not sure I am sold on Georgia. Do they have another season where they miss the best two teams in the conference..in other words, easiest possible conference schedule imaginable?


That's luck of the draw, the school doesn't set those so you can't fault them but they will see at least one of them if the course holds and they meet in the dome.

Hmmmmm maybe by then Richt may have them fired up by then........but I doubt it.
 
2012-09-16 04:27:49 PM

UNC_Samurai: This means Conference USA is the best conference in the country.


Nope, it means we need a proper playoff now, not later.
4 teams isn't enough, but it's a start. Increase the teams, work the bowl systems in and you'll have a proper playoff.
Then we'll look back at these shenanigans and realize they were popularity contests only.
 
2012-09-16 04:34:24 PM

lacydog: If you don't think the SEC is overrated, then please enlighten me as to why Florida is ranked so high? They don't have a single good QB, they've struggled against BOWLING GREEN of all teams, and they're coming off of a 6-6 season. Who thought they needed to be ranked before the season started at all? And what have they done to earn their current #14 ranking? They beat another overrated SEC team in Tennessee, who was 5-7 last year and has done nothing of note this year. That's supposed to be impressive?

I get that everyone has a hard-on for the SEC, but neither of those teams should've be ranked so damn high.




SEC teams are talked up by ESPN (a business partern with the SEC), and SEC teams are ranked highly at the beginning of the season so when they play each other it's easier to keep the actual good teams, such as Bama or LSU, high in the rankings through the season. It's also a mediocre Michigan team was ranked #8, so when Bama smoked them, it would give them sufficient cause to rank Bama even higher. It's a self full filling prophecy.
 
2012-09-16 04:36:47 PM

Kurmudgeon: UNC_Samurai: This means Conference USA is the best conference in the country.

Nope, it means we need a proper playoff now, not later.
4 teams isn't enough, but it's a start. Increase the teams, work the bowl systems in and you'll have a proper playoff.
Then we'll look back at these shenanigans and realize they were popularity contests only.


No it doesn't, what it means are decent players are filtering down thanks to being able to see film on kids no matter what college they are from but as Utah has shown, in a real conference they get worn down and would not be nearly as dominate. I remember Utah supporters talking about how they can't keep them out now that they are in a BCS conference, that worked out really well for them didn't it?
 
2012-09-16 04:37:33 PM

basemetal: OU is overrated in my opinion, until otherwise proven.


I'm looking forward to the Sooners' trip to and decimation in Morgantown.
 
2012-09-16 04:38:36 PM

bel4sucks: seelorq: That's the current ranking of the one other ranked team that UGA will play other than Florida at this time, so it serves as a benchmark of sorts to illustrate how weak their schedule is relative to Florida's at this time, barring no other movement in the rankings from now until the end of october.


Fixed to show ridiculousness


What part of "current ranking"--which I used more than once in my posts--do you not understand?

From your reply, apparently all of it.

It means the rankings that are current today, which reflect three weeks of play. That current rankings will change in the future is implicit.
 
2012-09-16 04:48:00 PM

Slow To Return: Alabama has a weak schedule again this year, and LSU's schedule this year is weak as well. Which means yet again, one of those teams will go undefeated, while the other has just the one loss to the other.

Get ready for the re-re-re-re-match.


This is the same excuse they used against the SEC last year when they beat #3 Oregon, #25 Mississippi State, #16 West Virginia, #17 Florida, #19 Auburn, #2 Alabama, #3 Arkansas, #12 Georgia. Alabama played against Mississippi State, Arkansas, and Florida, as well as #23 Penn State. Arkansas (which finished #5 and was ranked high as #3 before losing to the #1 team) faced and beat the #10, 11, 14, and 15 teams and only lost to LSU and Alabama. Unranked Auburn still faced 6 top-ten teams albeit Georgia was #14 at the time. These numbers are even higher when you consider teams like Clemson ended #22.

You can't play Oregon and West Virginia as your OOC games every year. Hell, after App. State beach Michigan, LSU played them the year after that (and while you might say it didn't matter given it was FCS... no major school played them again until 2010).

The easy schedule has never been a good argument. Boise State rocked Oklahoma multiple times. Give it a rest.
 
2012-09-16 04:48:46 PM
When LSU beat* rather than when they beat. My bad.
 
2012-09-16 04:49:38 PM

seelorq: bel4sucks: seelorq: That's the current ranking of the one other ranked team that UGA will play other than Florida at this time, so it serves as a benchmark of sorts to illustrate how weak their schedule is relative to Florida's at this time, barring no other movement in the rankings from now until the end of october.


Fixed to show ridiculousness

What part of "current ranking"--which I used more than once in my posts--do you not understand?

From your reply, apparently all of it.

It means the rankings that are current today, which reflect three weeks of play. That current rankings will change in the future is implicit.


Your problem is you use the crappy rankings to try and make a point for how another team is overrated because they don't play enough ranked teams. Do you not see the conundrum?

UT won't be ranked by the end and FSU is way overrated, LSU may be as well but we aren't sure yet.
 
2012-09-16 04:50:01 PM
Notre Dame beat a crappy Big 10 team and jumped up 9 spots; this means Obama is disqualified and the Pope is now President.
 
2012-09-16 04:50:52 PM
Stop me if you've heard this one: there's football on BOTH sides of the Mississippi river.
 
2012-09-16 04:51:57 PM

McManus_brothers: Notre Dame beat a crappy Big 10 team and jumped up 9 spots; this means Obama is disqualified and the Pope is now President.


The Big Ten is really really really bad.
 
2012-09-16 04:53:03 PM

seelorq: What part of "current ranking"--which I used more than once in my posts--do you not understand?

From your reply, apparently all of it.

It means the rankings that are current today, which reflect three weeks of play. That current rankings will change in the future is implicit.


Because the whole point you're trying to make is just dumb. You make an arbitrary "top 7" limit, after week three, so supposedly show dominance of a schedule for a reason I don't even think you understand. What's the point of bringing up a team that has ranking now, that might not have it when they play? You're touting the last game of the season against FSU, who might not be ranked, and then number 7 S Car who wouldn't be number 7 if UGA beats them before you get to them, and then the reverse of that is that UGA won't be ranked "top 7" if they lose to S Car either.
 
2012-09-16 04:53:35 PM

Chunks McGunks: Dafatone: There's a whoooole lot of "why is this team ranked" or "why is this team ranked so high" going on.

Who should be ranked higher? Who isn't ranked that should be?

I've asked myself that a time or two this season and haven't come up with a good answer yet.


I really don't want Alabama to have the big target on it's collective back, but I can't either.
Florida State looks good, but they are saddled with the ACC. Notre Dame will, in my opinion, definitely deserve the top rank if they make it through the season undefeated. I don't think they will though.
 
2012-09-16 05:00:48 PM
The south is that squeaky wheel that the world needs to throw in the incinerator and upgrade to warp drive from.
 
2012-09-16 05:07:30 PM

steamingpile: seelorq: bel4sucks: seelorq: That's the current ranking of the one other ranked team that UGA will play other than Florida at this time, so it serves as a benchmark of sorts to illustrate how weak their schedule is relative to Florida's at this time, barring no other movement in the rankings from now until the end of october.


Fixed to show ridiculousness

What part of "current ranking"--which I used more than once in my posts--do you not understand?

From your reply, apparently all of it.

It means the rankings that are current today, which reflect three weeks of play. That current rankings will change in the future is implicit.

Your problem is you use the crappy rankings to try and make a point for how another team is overrated because they don't play enough ranked teams. Do you not see the conundrum?

UT won't be ranked by the end and FSU is way overrated, LSU may be as well but we aren't sure yet.


You don't like the rankings. Fine. I don't think they are perfect either...but its what we've got, and they represent the consensus of insiders. I didn't say Georgia was overrated. I said relative to Florida at current rankings, their strength of schedule was weaker in reply to srhp29, who asked about the difficulty of Georgia's SEC schedule.
 
das
2012-09-16 05:19:54 PM
I like how USA Today pretends that tOSU doesn't exist.
 
2012-09-16 05:20:15 PM

Kurmudgeon: UNC_Samurai: This means Conference USA is the best conference in the country.

Nope, it means we need a proper playoff now, not later.
4 teams isn't enough, but it's a start. Increase the teams, work the bowl systems in and you'll have a proper playoff.
Then we'll look back at these shenanigans and realize they were popularity contests only.


At which point, Texas A&M will award themselves a couple more championships.
 
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