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(Telegraph)   An armada of US and British naval power is massing in the Persian Gulf   (telegraph.co.uk) divider line 120
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2012-09-15 11:19:37 PM  
10 votes:
Farking Israel knows that it's not possible to win an election in this country if you don't back up any bullshiat they feel like pulling. It would ALMOST be worth Obama losing the election to let those farkers twist in the wind...if it weren't for the fact that 2 months later when Romney was sworn in he'd just enter us into the war then. This war will suck for us, and it's bullshiat that we have to follow those assholes into it.

/Worst. "Ally". Ever.
2012-09-15 11:24:39 PM  
7 votes:

Hollie Maea: Farking Israel knows that it's not possible to win an election in this country if you don't back up any bullshiat they feel like pulling. It would ALMOST be worth Obama losing the election to let those farkers twist in the wind...if it weren't for the fact that 2 months later when Romney was sworn in he'd just enter us into the war then. This war will suck for us, and it's bullshiat that we have to follow those assholes into it.

/Worst. "Ally". Ever.


No one wants this war to happen except the right wing idealogues in Israel (and the clueless right wingers here who don't think for a second about what it would mean to the world economy).

fark you Israel. You don't get to dictate to the world.
2012-09-16 01:19:56 AM  
4 votes:

yelmrog: Why don't we take all the Jews out of Israel and relocate them to Florida with the rest? Totally seems like a win-win. I mean, we put them back there (the middle east) in the first place, we can take'em back out, right?


Look up what the Zionists are. Basically there is a large portion of the US population that thinks the Jews have to occupy Israel in order for Jesus to return. This is why some many in the GOP freak out when politicians don't support Israel as they see it being tantamount to not supporting Jesus.
2012-09-16 12:21:00 AM  
4 votes:

atomicmask: mediablitz: atomicmask: mediablitz: atomicmask: what I hope it is- A massive coop strike by 25 nations to hit every islamic nation rioting or attacking embassies over the past 3 days.


You are farking nuts.

Nah, just aware of the world wide situation and not kidding myself anymore. Lets get it over with, one last great crusade against islam, while we still have a penny to spend in the fight and the means to take the fight to them.

Oh yeah. You're definitely crazy. Completely farking clueless, shortsighted, and crazy...

I am crazy? Friend you are the one thinking that any resolution with a violent ideology other then total war is going to occur ever. One side is already engaged in it, maybe we should drop the pretenses and bullshiat and get with the program.


So I assume you're in the military, then? I only ask because I was in the Army and I got shot fighting Muslims for no good reason, and it seems like whenever I hear sentiments like yours the person expressing them is a fat, balding middle-aged dimwit, a middle manager type, who wanted to serve in the military, honest to god, but it just didn't work out for some reason, imagine that.
2012-09-15 11:24:36 PM  
4 votes:

gopher321: Battleships, aircraft carriers, minesweepers and submarines from 25 nations are converging on the strategically important Strait of Hormuz in an unprecedented show of force as Israel and Iran move towards the brink of war.

Somebody still uses battleships?


No.

And minesweepers are pre-positioned in Bahrain. They don't go sailing there on an as-needed basis.

So I stopped reading there.
2012-09-15 11:41:33 PM  
3 votes:
I'm trying to think of how closing the Straits of Hormuz could possibly help Iran in any way in the event of war with Israel, and I come up with nothing. It's something they would do if the United States already declared war on them, and they no longer had anything to lose, it is not something they would do to retaliate against Israel. Frankly I find the whole thing insulting to my intelligence.
2012-09-15 11:32:55 PM  
3 votes:
Also more than just the US and UK. It is a bunch of nations. Remember that if Iran tried to close the strait they would be in violation of international law (it is free passage for all nations) and in violation of the UAE and Oman's borders (since to close the entire waterway they'd have to invade both).

So no, this isn't the big ole' mean US getting ready to be mean to Iran. It is a bunch of nations, including gulf states, making sure they can keep the lane open, if need be.
2012-09-15 11:16:01 PM  
3 votes:
Battleships, aircraft carriers, minesweepers and submarines from 25 nations are converging on the strategically important Strait of Hormuz in an unprecedented show of force as Israel and Iran move towards the brink of war.

Somebody still uses battleships?
2012-09-15 11:05:09 PM  
3 votes:
Like they do every year at this time.

ANNUAL event.

Don't tell infowars though. They want you rubes to keep believing (and paying).
2012-09-16 12:46:47 PM  
2 votes:

intelligent comment below: nekulor: Modern Zionism is like dominionism for Jews. It's thankfully more specific and limited to one very small region of the planet, but it still sucks.


Feel free to link me to a citation showing it's "like" it in any way.


Let's do the math, shall we:

Crazed religious fundamentalists seeking to validate a very narrow definition of a specific thing from their holy book of choice? check.

Heavily embedded sentiments against another religion(s) in the region? Check.

Some pretty tough mental gymnastics to begin qualifying the outgroups (in this case, Palestinians and arabs) as inferior? Check.

An incredibly conservative core group that is pushing for more power within legitimate power structures in their home nation? Check.


All the hardcore modern zionists are missing is a healthy dose of misogyny and they're on the right track to be able to swap stories with Huckabee et. al.
2012-09-16 09:18:49 AM  
2 votes:

Hobodeluxe: intelligent comment below: What is Israel dictating?

that the Iranians can't have nuclear power like they have.


Worse than that.

Israel is trying to make us believe (and has been since the early 1980's) that not only is Iran desperately building a nuclear bomb, but the instant it is operational they will launch it into Tel Aviv. Despite the fact that it's a death warrant for Iran. A suicide attack, because the second that bird is in the air, the country and the regime would face massive international outrage and military conflict with pretty much everyone.

All this despite the fact that Iran is a signatory to the NPT, meaning if they build a nuclear weapon they're WELL within the tenets of international law and meanwhile Israel holds a large arsenal of nukes which exist outside any treaties and which Israel to this day denies having.

All this despite the fact that Iran hasn't invaded a foreign country in 200 years and Israel occupies one of its' neighbours right now (Palestine), and also invaded and occupied ANOTHER neighbour for over 20 years (Lebanon). And it's Israel that is constantly shrieking that they'll have to attack Iran, and acting paranoid and belligerent.

So it's like Bizarro-world or something.
2012-09-16 04:32:51 AM  
2 votes:
I think Israel will wait to see how things turn out with the US election. Mittens has the old gang of Dubya neocons back in play, ready to give the rednecks all the war their TVs can handle if he's elected. There's no imminent threat from Iran of a nuclear attack between now and the end of the year. Doesn't make sense for a rightwing government in Israel to strike now when they could have their super-bestest-friends back in power here in January, ready to back them up.

The other scenario that comes to mind is that since it looks like Rmoney's campaign is close to spiraling the drain, Israel could try to do something now in the hope that it hurts Obama's campaign. Most Americans don't want war with Iran, though.
2012-09-16 03:41:21 AM  
2 votes:

gleaningtheboob: The only way the West can do this while limiting blowback is to hang Israel out as the cause of things.


Actually, it's not the only way. It's one way. The other is to create major instabilities in the Arab world. Huh, kinda like we're seeing now. Funny the timing of things. How is it possible that some silly YouTube video causes such exaggerated reactions. This is shiat is being stoked intentionally.
2012-09-16 02:47:00 AM  
2 votes:

J. Frank Parnell: Active military of Russia, China, and North Korea combined: 4,418,000

Active military of America and Israel: 1,634,719

I wouldn't take that chance.


They have to get there first... and then keep them supplied. That's not to mention the sad state of their equipment. Manpower (in the form of cannon fodder) can only get you so far nowadays.

whidbey: Seeing as how the Soviet Union was surprisingly one of the biggest proponents for Israel since the beginning, not sure what your point is.


The Soviets just wanted to get rid of their own Jewish "Problem" (mainly political dissidents at the time). Soon after they left the USSR started selling arms to Israels neighbors and tried to make some of them into puppet states with varying degrees of success.
2012-09-16 01:32:52 AM  
2 votes:

whidbey: intelligent comment below: Israel is a theocracy?

It sure isn't a democracy.


Israel according to the CIA World Factbook. "Parliamentary Democracy".

But when I want to see an absolutely stunningly stupid statement, I just need to look for a post by Whidbey. They only reason I have not put him on my ignore list is each time he opens his mouth he sets the stupid notch to a whole new level. It's fascinating to watch.
2012-09-16 12:25:47 AM  
2 votes:

gopher321: Somebody still uses battleships?


imageshack.us

/quick and dirty
//the joys of MS paint
2012-09-15 11:50:19 PM  
2 votes:

tinfoil-hat maggie: Oh, come on can't we just have a small nuclear war :(


Or just laser tag. Let's get all the leaders of the Middle East together, lock them in a big warehouse and make it a 'last man standing gets the whole region' thing.

We can even televise it.
2012-09-15 11:42:03 PM  
2 votes:

mediablitz: blacksharpiemarker: mediablitz: fark you Israel. You don't get to dictate to the world.

They already do.

No. They don't. If they DID, Iran would have been bombed in one of the last 17 YEARS Israel claimed Iran would have "the bomb". Yep, 17 straight years making that claim.

They TRY, and our right wing willingly plays along.


Exactly. Israel attacking Iran is the wishful thinking of a few knuckleheads. Oh sure, some there and here would LOVE to have the US do the dirty deed, but it ain't gonna happen. Moreover, Israel lacks the technical means to pull off any sort of raid that would do more than drop a few thousand-pounders on surface targets in Iran.

But by all means, keep farking that chicken.
2012-09-15 11:41:13 PM  
2 votes:

Brontes: In before people calling you an anti-Semite


It seems like as people have started to realize how likely we are to get dragged into a war with Iran, and how much it would suck, there seems to be a lot less "You're racist if you don't support Israel 100%". Sadly, though, politicians don't seem to have gotten the memo.

It sucks, because if they started something after the election, I think Obama would be genuinely tempted to give them the finger. But if they do something before, he wouldn't dare.

Of course, even if they aren't planning to start a war, I wouldn't be surprised if good old Bennie Netanyahu didn't try to piss Iran off enough to get them to shut down the straits of Hormuz, just to help out his old frat buddy Mitt.

/Sigh.
2012-09-15 11:40:22 PM  
2 votes:

ArkAngel: So what will the name of the next war be?

Desert ________ ?


Desert Patriot Haboob--Blinding Wind
2012-09-15 11:39:04 PM  
2 votes:
Because sucking israeli dick is what the U.S. does best.
2012-09-15 11:34:28 PM  
2 votes:
Who says we let these two theocracies, that have been fighting over the same God forsaken stinking desert since forever, just kill each other off and we use the money for bills?
2012-09-15 11:28:51 PM  
2 votes:
The multi-national naval force in the Gulf includes three US Nimitz class carrier groups, each of which has more aircraft than the entire complement of the Iranian air force.
The carriers are supported by at least 12 battleships, including ballistic missile cruisers, frigates, destroyers and assault ships carrying thousand of US Marines and special forces.


I stopped reading at this point. Author is doing an opinion piece disguised as analysis and he can't even get basic facts correct. He's wrong about the air craft carriers and battleships.
2012-09-15 11:25:57 PM  
2 votes:

ArkAngel: So what will the name of the next war be?

Desert Buttfark ?

2012-09-16 07:28:08 PM  
1 votes:
Amos Quito lost what small amount of credibility he had when he threadshat a discussion, stating how blacks don't really benefit from public services and based his entire position on "a lifetime of personal experience."

Really, just put the bugger on ignore and move on. Fark isn't going to ban him.
2012-09-16 07:26:40 PM  
1 votes:
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2012-09-16 07:20:16 PM  
1 votes:

vygramul: You attacked Jews in a thread entirely unrelated to Israel or even the Middle East.



I "ATTACKED Jews"???

Link please. And not just to the thread, but to the post. (No offense, but people who like to whine about anti-Semitism also seem to be confused about who said what. I'm sure you've noticed)

And "in a thread entirely unrelated to Israel or even the Middle East"??? So farking what? Last time I checked, Jews weren't confined to Israel or the Middle East. As a mater of fact, they make up circa 2% of the US population, and pound for pound, wield FAR more political power and media influence than other minority groups that are ten times their size.

It's no secret - they brag about it. "I know what America is," Netanyahu told a group of terror victims, apparently not knowing his words were being recorded. "America is a thing you can move very easily, move it in the right direction. They won't get in their way."


Am I an anti-Semite for quoting Bibi?

Sorry bubs, but when you have a group that wields IMMENSE political power in this country AND has demonstrated a strong tendency to place the interests of a foreign nation above the best interests of the nation where they reside, they're fair game for cold, harsh and dissective criticism.

You don't like it? Tough titties.

Sort your priorities out and get back to me.
2012-09-16 06:56:26 PM  
1 votes:

RoyBatty: Amos Quito: Funny that anti-Semite card is always the weapon of first-resort when it comes to any discussion of the Zionist State and her supporters. If (as Samuel Johnson allegedly said) "patriotism is the last refuge of a scoundrel", then ad hominem attacks are surely the first.

Oh that's just silly. You've made yourself a long history at FARK in many many many threads not pertaining to Israel at all of being an anti-semite.

Dude, when you're intellectually honest I will respond to you. If you're going to pretend that you're just upset with Israel in contrast to your philosophical argument as to why you hate Jews Link than you are not even worth responding to.



You really should stop linking to that thread, RoyBatty, as it always destroys the point you're trying to make.

From my post - emphasis added (thanks for the link):

"Why do I pay what you might believe is an inordinate amount of attention to a certain group? It may be because that particular group uniquely exemplifies the very spirit of separation, clanishness, ethnocentrism and nationalism more profoundly than any other I have encountered. Indeed, these characteristics are the very glue that has held this group together as a separate and distinct "people" through thousands of years of dwelling in diaspora - a nation within nations that refused to assimilate in spite of enormous pressure to do so.

While group solidarity is not necessarily a "bad" thing, trouble begins when the "perceived" interests of one self-identified group clash wit the "perceived" interests of another or others. This scenario has repeated itself time and again throughout history, often with disasterous results, and frankly that is what I see happening again, and it does NOT bode well for the best interests of ANY group, of humanity as a whole, or of the planet itself.
"


RoyBatty: Yes, in that link you lay out grounds for why you hate all non assimilating groups, but we all know you only scream about the Jews. And that link is not about Israel, it's about Jews.


As an American, what other non-assimilating, racist, self-absorbed, ethnocentric groups do you think I should be "screaming" about? And why should your favorite group be immune to any criticism?

In that post I clearly explained my concern with clinging to clannishness, ethnocentrism, racism and fanatical nationalism in the modern world. You got upset because you want the right to PRESERVE these divisive traits for YOUR group, while seeing them dissolved in other groups, a trait that is not uncommon amongst your fellows, I might add.

Here in the US we witnessed Jews racing to the Southern States in an apparent valiant and courageous effort to end segregative "apartheid", but simultaneously Jews were working to STRENGTHEN the segregative "apartheid" between Jews and non-Jews in the Zionist State, weren't they?

But is this an example of hypocrisy, or simply clever political maneuvering? When a group is a distinct minority (Jews in the US), does it not serve their purposes / advance group interests to weaken the dominant group by empowering fellow minorities (in the Civil Rights era, blacks)?

Conversely, when said group is a dominant MAJORITY (Jews in Israel) does it not serve their purposes / advance group interests to maintain that dominance by oppressing, weakening and disempowering those who might challenge their dominant status?

Either way you have a self-identified group actively and vigorously competing against other groups, and as I so eloquently stated in that other thread, this may have been a rational strategy in ages past, but in the modern age, it is the harbinger of worldwide calamity.

So no, RoyBatty, you can't have your cake (force others to integrate) and eat it too (maintain your ethno-supremacist identity), which is EXACTLY what Zionists and those that support the Zionist agenda are trying to do.
2012-09-16 05:50:23 PM  
1 votes:

bedtundy: But Muslim theocracies that embody pretty much (and more of) of what you claim the JEWWWSSSS! are doing in Israel are a-okay?



No.

But in general, we Americans don't coddle, support, defend, justify and enable these bigoted Muslim theocracies like we do the bigoted, racist, Zionist State, do we?

Hypocrisy FTW.
2012-09-16 04:20:06 PM  
1 votes:

shower_in_my_socks: Sabyen91: The Israeli government isn't sitting back and waiting. Bibi is actively stumping for Mitt and the opposition is calling him out on meddling in US elections. Link

I wouldn't be surprised if some of this bullshiat rioting in the Middle East has Israeli intelligence ops behind it. I have no evidence to support that, other than looking at who stands to benefit from it.


It does seem too well orchestrated to be just some guy doing it all.

Americans dead on the anniversary of 9/11?

I imagine whoever is ultimately responsible is more than a little annoyed at the measured response on Obama's part here.

I really don't wanna think what President McCain would be doing right now.

*shudder*

So, this armada thing is an annual event that has more participation than in previous years according to TFA.

So... annual show of force is even more showy this year?

Because Israel is signalling that it will act with or without international sanction in terms of "pre-emptively" attacking Iranian nuclear enrichment sites and western economies would be devastated if the strait of Hormuz is blocked by Iran in response even for a few weeks?

Interesting times, indeed.

At this point Mitt's special relationship with Bibi should be viewed very warily by the electorate.
2012-09-16 03:58:05 PM  
1 votes:

Amos Quito: RoyBatty: vygramul: You're still around? I thought you left after you were caught blaming Jews in a thread that had nothing even remotely to do with Israel.

Whenever you hear a high pitched whining "jewwwwwssssss" in any thread and you can't quite place it, look for amos quito in your ears.


So, what do you say, RoyBatty?

Do you support Bibi starting WWIII under the false pretense that Israel (and by imaginary extension - all Jews) faces an "existential threat" because Iran might be working on technology that might one day give them the ability to maybe make a nuclear weapon that might be used against the Zionist State?


I'm just not sure who is worse for humanity, Bibi farking around in our elections, or the overt antisemites like you enabling and encouraging all the casual antisemitism (and cries to nuke the whole middle east over) in threads like this one and across the world that give aid and comfort to Bibi and his supporters as well as the Bin Ladens, Khameneis, and al-Assads.

i.imgur.com

Amos Quito exists on the hate of others

i.imgur.com

Good Spirits finally drives Amos Quito away

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Amos Quito, profile pic
2012-09-16 03:37:22 PM  
1 votes:

Zeno-25: [i.imgur.com image 720x540]


Looks shopped.
2012-09-16 03:08:17 PM  
1 votes:

vygramul: You're still around? I thought you left after you were caught blaming Jews in a thread that had nothing even remotely to do with Israel.


Whenever you hear a high pitched whining "jewwwwwssssss" in any thread and you can't quite place it, look for amos quito in your ears.
2012-09-16 02:52:09 PM  
1 votes:

meyerkev: Amos Quito: Late to the thread, but it is well known that Israel has been bleating this bullshiat for decades, that the "existential threat" of Iran's supposed "KILL ALL JEWS!!!" is an outright lie (Iran has a large Jewish population that is treated VERY well), and that Israel has done nothing but make enemies with everyone in the region since the Racist Regime was C-Sectioned into existence back in the 40's.

Israel is the aggressor here.

Israel is the one who is threatening to unilaterally attack Iran - not the other way around.

It would seem to me that the best course of action would be to send in massive flotillas of US, British, German, French, Russian, Chinese (whoever) off the coast of Israel, and let them know, on no uncertain terms, that if they act aggressively against Iran, we're going to cut US financial aid to the Jewish State by 3%.

Too radical?

In complete fairness, Israel's history has shown that:

1) They are tiny. Like New Jersey tiny. If they get attacked in a major way, there's no buffer at all. (Or from the nuclear perspective, you don't need all that many nukes to cripple them)
2) So far, anti-Israeli rhetoric has been matched by action. Since its establishment in 1948, the State of Israel has fought seven recognized wars, two Palestinian intifadas, and a series of armed conflicts in the broader Arab-Israeli conflict.
3) Launching preemptive strikes has worked out really, really well for Israel (1967), while sitting and waiting to be attacked has been less so (1973).
4) You have an extremely rhetorically crazy regime in Iran, that:
a) might judge the eradication of Israel as a fair trade for their own immediate destruction.
b) With the recent downgrading of Iraq's power status, is in a position where reality can be made to match rhetoric (instead of being a counter to Iraq ala the 1980's)
c) Is actively seeking nukes.

So why shouldn't they be at least considering an attack (and in the process, maybe convincing other people with more in ...



I thought that we, as a planet that supposed to be progressively working toward an enlightened era of peace, that we were supposed to be trying to rid ourselves of the scourge of xenophobia, ethnic supremacy, and racism. No?

It would seem to me that Zionism and the Zionist State are antithetical to that goal - a remnant of an ugly part of human history that can no longer be tolerated if modern global society is to thrive.

I think we can live without Zionism and the ugliness that it embodies, don't you?
2012-09-16 01:15:48 PM  
1 votes:
thamike 2012-09-16 12:26:47 PM

Kittypie070: Mutilated Baby Penis would be an atrocious name for a band and I would throw Molotov cocktails at their concerts.

Everybody throws Molotov cocktails at Mutilated Baby Penis concerts, poser.


Dammit!!

/honoured to be one-upped by a true professional, sir!
2012-09-16 12:26:47 PM  
1 votes:

Kittypie070: Mutilated Baby Penis would be an atrocious name for a band and I would throw Molotov cocktails at their concerts.


Everybody throws Molotov cocktails at Mutilated Baby Penis concerts, poser.
2012-09-16 09:43:18 AM  
1 votes:

S Gilmore L: Bomb them, bomb their cities, bomb the oil fields, bomb their ports, bomb them back into the stone age - and do the same to Israel, too. If the Middle East registers on the 'news worthy' scale in the next hundred years, then we didn't do our job. Fark them, no lie. The whole region dictates too much concern for any civilized country to be distracted by, if they can't learn to live together then Fark them, and if they can't learn diplomacy in the next hundred years then bomb them again. Repeat as necessary, ad infintum. Yeah, I'm mad, bro. The world is trying to live together (minus Best Korea, and a few other places). But these farkers in the ME are a nightmare concerning world peace, so kill them and try to be thorough, no lie.


Aside from having all that early human cultural historical significance there which means we'll never truly be able to let that region fly completely off the rails/go glass parking lot, you're forgetting about all the oil in that region that is utterly vital to run our technology.
2012-09-16 08:10:05 AM  
1 votes:
When the first word in an alleged new article is in error -- "battleships" today exist in museums, not fleets -- you can safely disregard everything that follows because the reporters and editors involved are obviously clueless.
There has been increased naval activity in the Persian Gulf region all summer by U.S., British, French and Russian naval units. Apparently the Telegram doesn't know how to Google.
2012-09-16 08:04:19 AM  
1 votes:
Sweet... right on track for Dec 21st 2012!
2012-09-16 07:21:32 AM  
1 votes:

aearra: And we all know how well the last Armada worked. Well the Brits do. For americans it was before the world began in 1620.


There have been a few since.
Some that would make the Spanish blush from embarrassment.

dl.dropbox.com

The scary part is having so more ships close together increases the chance of an accident, incident, or an encounter with old ordinance that's probably littering the gulf. These boats are all there out of the political need to be "doing something" about Iran, and just one explosion will create the demand that they do something far more assertive than pose.

/I'm predicting the accident will happen some time in mid October.
2012-09-16 05:14:38 AM  
1 votes:

LewDux: Iranian conservatives: Iran is very dangerous. Vote for us, we will protect you
Israeli conservatives: Iran is very dangerous. Vote for us, we will protect you
American conservatives: Muslims are very dangerous. Vote for us, we will protect you
Russian conservatives : West is very dangerous. Vote for us, we will protect you


Martian conservatives: Earth biatches be easy.
2012-09-16 05:04:05 AM  
1 votes:
Between this ongoing crap with Israel and pretty much every other frickin' country within a 500 mile radius of them, and all this other protesting bullshiat over that douchebag who made that retarded movie, when is it gonna be time for the potus or the congress or whoever the fark has the authority to just be like "y'know what?, fark you guys, I'm out"? seriously, can't we just take our ball and go home already? I'm sick of being dragged into everyone elses bullshiat because we have "a vested interest". I don't have a vested interest in what happens over there in the farking desert. I don't give a fark about the price of oil, It's a farking scam to begin with. Let those assholes kill each other and just be done with it. How much better off would we all(the world) be if the only thing occupying that arrid, unusable piece of dirt was crickets and the occasional dust storm?
2012-09-16 04:59:38 AM  
1 votes:

shower_in_my_socks: Sabyen91: It isn't that surprising. They recently dubbed it in Arabic and sent it to some right-wing Muslim in Egypt. Yes, that certainly seems like pre-meditation. And it is good as a conspiracy because it is simple. Most conspiracy theorists believe in really elaborate conspiracies and they just don't come that way.


I still don't see how it went viral. Who was/were the tastemaker(s) that made this blow-up? If I make a video in Arabic and send it to a friend in the Middle East, it'll get 5 views.


The Egyptian right winger was a radio host. Also youtube is global.
2012-09-16 04:57:58 AM  
1 votes:

Sabyen91: You think the Obama-Bibi rift is some political theater to fool people into thinking...what?



I'll answer a question with a question. Do you think threat of nuclear war between the Soviets and the West was anything more than a facade so both sides could make weapons and expand their control over resources?

Regarding Obama/Bibi, we'll never know. All I know is that we are constantly fed misinformation coupled with entertaining distractions so the wealthy can get wealthier while other are forced to suffer for it.
2012-09-16 04:45:04 AM  
1 votes:

shower_in_my_socks: Sabyen91: I wouldn't be surprised if some of this bullshiat rioting in the Middle East has Israeli intelligence ops behind it. I have no evidence to support that, other than looking at who stands to benefit from it.

It looks like it is Coptics and other fundies in the US. I think, if anything, the Jews are being set up on this one.


Maybe. Something is definitely rotten in Denmark. A US film that no one in the US had ever heard of suddenly ignites the entire Middle East? Who the fark promoted the film over there so much that so much rage and mass-hysteria could come completely out of nowhere?


It isn't that surprising. They recently dubbed it in Arabic and sent it to some right-wing Muslim in Egypt. Yes, that certainly seems like pre-meditation. And it is good as a conspiracy because it is simple. Most conspiracy theorists believe in really elaborate conspiracies and they just don't come that way.
2012-09-16 04:42:46 AM  
1 votes:

Sabyen91: I wouldn't be surprised if some of this bullshiat rioting in the Middle East has Israeli intelligence ops behind it. I have no evidence to support that, other than looking at who stands to benefit from it.

It looks like it is Coptics and other fundies in the US. I think, if anything, the Jews are being set up on this one.



Maybe. Something is definitely rotten in Denmark. A US film that no one in the US had ever heard of suddenly ignites the entire Middle East? Who the fark promoted the film over there so much that so much rage and mass-hysteria could come completely out of nowhere?
2012-09-16 04:40:08 AM  
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shower_in_my_socks: Sabyen91: The Israeli government isn't sitting back and waiting. Bibi is actively stumping for Mitt and the opposition is calling him out on meddling in US elections. Link


I wouldn't be surprised if some of this bullshiat rioting in the Middle East has Israeli intelligence ops behind it. I have no evidence to support that, other than looking at who stands to benefit from it.


It looks like it is Coptics and other fundies in the US. I think, if anything, the Jews are being set up on this one.
2012-09-16 04:36:08 AM  
1 votes:

shower_in_my_socks: I think Israel will wait to see how things turn out with the US election. Mittens has the old gang of Dubya neocons back in play, ready to give the rednecks all the war their TVs can handle if he's elected. There's no imminent threat from Iran of a nuclear attack between now and the end of the year. Doesn't make sense for a rightwing government in Israel to strike now when they could have their super-bestest-friends back in power here in January, ready to back them up.

The other scenario that comes to mind is that since it looks like Rmoney's campaign is close to spiraling the drain, Israel could try to do something now in the hope that it hurts Obama's campaign. Most Americans don't want war with Iran, though.


The Israeli government isn't sitting back and waiting. Bibi is actively stumping for Mitt and the opposition is calling him out on meddling in US elections. Link
2012-09-16 04:00:34 AM  
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Sabyen91: Why not? Because it is not proper to involve yourself in another country's elections. Bibi is taking a bashing for doing it from Israelis


Really? How is anything these assholes do "proper?"

American governments have routinely engaged in the wholesale slaughter of various peoples for hundreds of years. In the last 60 or so, America has decided to constantly be engaged in fight somewhere while the country crumbles. The Israeli government is oppressing a population by locking them in ghettos and maintaining order with helicopter gunships.

And you're concerned with what some phony, corrupt politician says about some other phony, corrupt politician? Really?
2012-09-16 03:51:49 AM  
1 votes:

DogBoyTheCat: Hey... I've got a good question...
Why are the sand monkeys so pissed off at America, a basically Judeo-Christian nation (the same roots as Islam) and they don't seem to have a problem with the Atheists in China? Wouldn't Atheists be bigger infidels?


Sand monkeys? GTFO.
2012-09-16 03:45:00 AM  
1 votes:
I'm not a right-wing idealogue... I'm just tired of this crap.
Somebody needs to put the smack down on these idiots...the sooner the better.
I picture the current administration's apologetic stance to be quite similar to Neville Chamberlain("I have met with Mr. Hitler, and he seems quite an agreeable chap").
Appeasement will never work with these folks.
Let's just do the violence, do it hard, and get it done with...
2012-09-16 03:36:42 AM  
1 votes:

gleaningtheboob: Sabyen91: You did notice Bibi stumping for Romney, right?

And? What's your point?

The fact is that Israel doesn't do shiat unless they are given permission


Did the US give Bibi the permission to meddle in the election?
2012-09-16 03:34:27 AM  
1 votes:

Sabyen91: You did notice Bibi stumping for Romney, right?


And? What's your point?

The fact is that Israel doesn't do shiat unless they are given permission, even if the permission is not made public. Ask yourself: what is Israel to gain from attacking Iran? will they gain economically? will it magically solve all of their problems?

Israel is a resource poor country which relies on the West for economic support. Its politicians are all crooked and it is really no more than a upscale banana republic (in fact they really do export tons of bananas to Europe). Would Bibi sell his people out? I don't doubt it.

What makes more sense? Israel deciding to commit suicide because OH NOES! THAT BAD LITTLE MAN SAYS MEAN THINGS! Or, because the West's economy is seriously struggling and the only guarantee to maintaining the status quo for a little while longer is to lock in more oil resources. The only way the West can do this while limiting blowback is to hang Israel out as the cause of things.
2012-09-16 03:19:14 AM  
1 votes:
It's kinda funny, but I think we're all getting it backwards. A lot of people think it's Israel dictating to the world. Of course, that's how it looks. But let's look at the facts and a map of the Middle East. Iran is almost completely surrounded by countries that either have American troops or are in some way allied with America and the West and all play some part in the supply of oil.

The article states it plainly. The western countries need oil (to maintain the upward flow of money) and the only significant piece of the puzzle left is Iran.

Israel is taking the heat with some ridiculous claim of feeling threatened by nuclear weapons when we all know that if Iran really wanted to annihilate Israel they already could with chemical and biological weapons. Yeah, Israel is the fall guy. That's the price you pay for accepting billions in weapons and aid.

What will actually come of this? Who the fark knows. My thoughts: America will continue slowly deteriorating with a lot its people numbed into not caring and while some actually await the collapse excitedly. The Arab states will continue self-destructing thus opening the possibility for dictators who lean westward (e.g. Afghanistan). And Israel? Hopefully it will not be sacrificed on the altar as happens to the Jews from time to time.

We all gotta remember that the Israeli citizens do not want this shiat just like the Iranian citizens do not want this shiat. Our non-elected leaders (let's face it, we can't trust any election these days) are taking us to bad places because bad people want them to. fark them. Life is hard enough as it is. Let's please not buy in to the popular story line they're giving us. Our distrust of anything and everything on the TV, radio, newspapers, etc. especially that told to us by politicians is the first step to breaking their grip.
2012-09-16 02:50:59 AM  
1 votes:
Just saying It's never good to underestimate your enemies, and i hear a lot of that here.
2012-09-16 02:47:57 AM  
1 votes:

J. Frank Parnell: vygramul: You do know that they don't get to fight us unless we visit them, right? This isn't Risk. They need to be able to provide logistical support to get from there to wherever they want to fight us.

China is a manufacturing giant. If they wanted to bad enough they could build a vehicle for each soldier. Perhaps talk to Japan about designing those Gundam things. That would blow everyones mind.


Uh-huh. It takes a little more than being able to build plastic chotchkies. China is not there yet.
2012-09-16 02:44:03 AM  
1 votes:

vygramul: You do know that they don't get to fight us unless we visit them, right? This isn't Risk. They need to be able to provide logistical support to get from there to wherever they want to fight us.


China is a manufacturing giant. If they wanted to bad enough they could build a vehicle for each soldier. Perhaps talk to Japan about designing those Gundam things. That would blow everyones mind.
2012-09-16 02:43:51 AM  
1 votes:

whidbey: vygramul: whidbey: This is disgusting to me.

It's almost like we don't even really have a UN anymore. It's just up to the strongest country in the region calling the shots.

No wonder countries like Iran might want to develop an advanced weapons program. Israel disgusts me. So does the fact that every major power won't or can't seem to stand up to it.

A lot of these guys kind of made their beds when they chose to align with the Soviet Union. I'm not over-fond of Israel, but people can't even agree on the hostory, much less the right solution for today.

Seeing as how the Soviet Union was surprisingly one of the biggest proponents for Israel since at the beginning, not sure what your point is.

2012-09-16 02:42:50 AM  
1 votes:

whidbey: vygramul: whidbey: This is disgusting to me.

It's almost like we don't even really have a UN anymore. It's just up to the strongest country in the region calling the shots.

No wonder countries like Iran might want to develop an advanced weapons program. Israel disgusts me. So does the fact that every major power won't or can't seem to stand up to it.

A lot of these guys kind of made their beds when they chose to align with the Soviet Union. I'm not over-fond of Israel, but people can't even agree on the hostory, much less the right solution for today.

Seeing as how the Soviet Union was surprisingly one of the biggest proponents for Israel since the beginning, not sure what your point is.


Ever wonder why almost all of Israel's enemies seem to have mostly Soviet arms?
2012-09-16 02:40:27 AM  
1 votes:

daxxenos: vygramul: J. Frank Parnell: vygramul: Unless you're suggesting nukes, there's very little Russia or China could do to lend any kind of support. Russia's military is poorly trained these days and China has no power projection capability worth mentioning.

I guarantee Russia has some cards up its sleeve, and China has the largest military in the world. They're just one secret project away from having power projection. Oh, and of course North Korea would jump on board, and you'd have them too. The US would be foolish to think they know exactly what all their capabilities are. Any decision to attack would be foolhardy.

Russia ain't got squat. Heck, it turns out they were pretty much a paper tiger since about the mid-'60s. China is not going to be projecting power anytime soon. Not to Iran they're not. 20 years from now, anything could happen. But not today.

And just what is NK going to do, exactly? Start rolling out artillery from their bomb-proof caves to start setting up to shell Seoul? Not bloody likely.

When Iran nukes Tel Aviv, and Dear Loser promises to send a harsh letter, the Norks will strike, 2 weeks later, once the Pacific Fleet, (what's left of it...) is well past Sri Lanka on the way to the Gulf. The WH and the Democrats will cheer, and Teheran will vanish in a final Israeli strike. The US will do shiat.


That sounds like it would make a better movie than military analysis, and it would be a pretty shiatty movie.
2012-09-16 02:33:26 AM  
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vygramul: Russia ain't got squat. Heck, it turns out they were pretty much a paper tiger since about the mid-'60s. China is not going to be projecting power anytime soon. Not to Iran they're not. 20 years from now, anything could happen. But not today.


Active military of Russia, China, and North Korea combined: 4,418,000

Active military of America and Israel: 1,634,719

I wouldn't take that chance.
2012-09-16 02:23:26 AM  
1 votes:

J. Frank Parnell: vygramul: Unless you're suggesting nukes, there's very little Russia or China could do to lend any kind of support. Russia's military is poorly trained these days and China has no power projection capability worth mentioning.

I guarantee Russia has some cards up its sleeve, and China has the largest military in the world. They're just one secret project away from having power projection. Oh, and of course North Korea would jump on board, and you'd have them too. The US would be foolish to think they know exactly what all their capabilities are. Any decision to attack would be foolhardy.


Russia ain't got squat. Heck, it turns out they were pretty much a paper tiger since about the mid-'60s. China is not going to be projecting power anytime soon. Not to Iran they're not. 20 years from now, anything could happen. But not today.

And just what is NK going to do, exactly? Start rolling out artillery from their bomb-proof caves to start setting up to shell Seoul? Not bloody likely.
2012-09-16 02:16:38 AM  
1 votes:

vygramul: Unless you're suggesting nukes, there's very little Russia or China could do to lend any kind of support. Russia's military is poorly trained these days and China has no power projection capability worth mentioning.


I guarantee Russia has some cards up its sleeve, and China has the largest military in the world. They're just one secret project away from having power projection. Oh, and of course North Korea would jump on board, and you'd have them too. The US would be foolish to think they know exactly what all their capabilities are. Any decision to attack would be foolhardy.
2012-09-16 02:10:42 AM  
1 votes:
Freschel 2012-09-16 01:50:06 AM

It's been over 200 comments and still no Tatsume.

Praise the twelve lords for that.
2012-09-16 02:09:54 AM  
1 votes:

Dalrint: You know, I don't want this to happen, but I have to admit I'm genuinely curious about how it would all play out. There hasn't been a real war since the modernization of military hardware, just little conflicts with a few countries throwing crap at each other. Wars aren't going to be grunts on the ground anymore, so...how will it work out? Satellites hurling missiles at each other? Drone dog fights?

You can't even really have massive fleet battles anymore because almost all of the 'top' battle groups are American and European.

Assuming it isn't just nukes all the way down, of course.


There's not really any need for nukes anymore. Except maybe for the EMP effect but i'd be willing to bet they have more efficient ways of doing that by now. I'm very curious how it would play out too, but it's exactly what the world doesn't need. And i hope i'm wrong, but you must be blind not to see how countries are all aligning with this issue, it could be a tipping point.
2012-09-16 02:00:44 AM  
1 votes:

dr_blasto: intelligent comment below: dr_blasto: Aye, but what are the requirements to have full rights there?


Why don't you go find out what rights an Arab Israeli citizen has and report back

Look em up. Their representation in the Knesset is not equal. Full stop. Either they're 100% equal or they're not. I'm not going to argue against Israel's right to self-determination, but they don't provide 100% equality.


Of course not. The Israeli government is dominated by right wing nuts who make the Republicans look like the League of Women Voters.

Democracy? A stable democracy doesn't have miles of ugly stories-high walls to keep people out.
2012-09-16 02:00:14 AM  
1 votes:

J. Frank Parnell: I don't think you'll see the US lead a ground strike against Iran, but they'll probably provide air support.

Would be the worst move in recent military history. Iran isn't afraid of being attacked, and even seemed to be letting Ahmadinejad stir things up, because they know they have some heavy backup with Russia and China, and maybe more. If Israel throws the first punch then it's on. Crazy bastards could spark WWIII, and the US and Israel would be greatly outnumbered. Probably drag Canada and Britain into it somehow for help, and there we go, everyone getting killed for years.


You know, I don't want this to happen, but I have to admit I'm genuinely curious about how it would all play out. There hasn't been a real war since the modernization of military hardware, just little conflicts with a few countries throwing crap at each other. Wars aren't going to be grunts on the ground anymore, so...how will it work out? Satellites hurling missiles at each other? Drone dog fights?

You can't even really have massive fleet battles anymore because almost all of the 'top' battle groups are American and European.

Assuming it isn't just nukes all the way down, of course.
2012-09-16 01:52:36 AM  
1 votes:

Dalrint: I'm trying to figure out what sort of enemy the author thinks we're going to be fighting that would require three aircraft carrier groups.


I don't think you'll see the US lead a ground strike against Iran, but they'll probably provide air support.

Would be the worst move in recent military history. Iran isn't afraid of being attacked, and even seemed to be letting Ahmadinejad stir things up, because they know they have some heavy backup with Russia and China, and maybe more. If Israel throws the first punch then it's on. Crazy bastards could spark WWIII, and the US and Israel would be greatly outnumbered. Probably drag Canada and Britain into it somehow for help, and there we go, everyone getting killed for years.
2012-09-16 01:50:26 AM  
1 votes:

intelligent comment below: whidbey: If it were, then it would be sharing power with the Palestinians by now


Why would any country share power with people who aren't citizens? wut? Why isn't America sharing power with illegal Mexican immigrants? THEOCRACY!


Don't be a brick.

Google "Hezbollah" and get back to me.
2012-09-16 01:49:52 AM  
1 votes:

mediablitz: Hollie Maea: Farking Israel knows that it's not possible to win an election in this country if you don't back up any bullshiat they feel like pulling. It would ALMOST be worth Obama losing the election to let those farkers twist in the wind...if it weren't for the fact that 2 months later when Romney was sworn in he'd just enter us into the war then. This war will suck for us, and it's bullshiat that we have to follow those assholes into it.

/Worst. "Ally". Ever.

No one wants this war to happen except the right wing idealogues in Israel (and the clueless right wingers here who don't think for a second about what it would mean to the world economy).

fark you Israel. You don't get to dictate to the world.


You're quite right. You will all cheer when Israel is nuked, as iran promises to do on a weekly basis.

But, since Iran is refining uranium for "purely peaceful" purposes, and they are too stupid to actually BUILD an atomic bomb, even with North Korean and Paki help, both of which are incredibly peace loving and pro-Jewish, it can never happen.

Right, Mr Eichmann?.

I will be SO happy when we can resolve the Final Solution to the Leftist Problem...

2012-09-16 01:41:03 AM  
1 votes:

tinfoil-hat maggie: Gyrfalcon: YoungSwedishBlonde: A naval armada is massing overseas? Obama must be on his way to India again.

Armadas attack England, I believe.

Call the sea dogs!

What will Ralegh do?


Bang Queen Elizabeth, probably.
2012-09-16 01:33:41 AM  
1 votes:

intelligent comment below: whidbey: intelligent comment below: Israel is a theocracy?

It sure isn't a democracy.


According to who?


Is this 20 questions?

Or are you actually capable of formulating an opinion all your own?

Israel is not a democracy. If it were, then it would be sharing power with the Palestinians by now. This is a fact. See=Hezbollah
2012-09-16 01:24:59 AM  
1 votes:

intelligent comment below: tzzhc4: Look up what the Zionists are. Basically there is a large portion of the US population that thinks the Jews have to occupy Israel in order for Jesus to return. This is why some many in the GOP freak out when politicians don't support Israel as they see it being tantamount to not supporting Jesus.


I think you need to look up what Zionists are.

You are confusing a Zionist with a Christian evangelical and dominionist.


Modern Zionism is like dominionism for Jews. It's thankfully more specific and limited to one very small region of the planet, but it still sucks.
2012-09-16 01:14:18 AM  
1 votes:

vygramul: nekulor: vygramul: Tyranicle: Hello? Jew? Hello? Why is the United States of America responsible for jewish intrests in Israel?

Because we have been bought off and manipulated by people who came across as caring friends. F+ck Israel.

Yes - we established you're Jewish. You're one of those Jews who hates Israel. We get it. You don't have to keep proving you're a "good" Jew. It's ok.

Well, they've kind of been dicks since they took a hard right religious turn the past few elections. I used to be a big fan of Israel.

It's really after the assassination of Rabin. The assassin got exactly what he wanted.


Sadly, I think you're right. The world never learns that the response to these kinds of events is to soldier on, not become a monster to fight a monster.
2012-09-16 01:12:19 AM  
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Tyranicle: whatshisname: Tyranicle: Why is the United States of America responsible for jewish intrests in Israel?

Because there's lots of Jewish voters in the US.

Jews make up between two to three percent of the American population. However, there are more jews in America than Israel. Roughly six million reside here while five million reside there.


Why don't we take all the Jews out of Israel and relocate them to Florida with the rest? Totally seems like a win-win. I mean, we put them back there (the middle east) in the first place, we can take'em back out, right?
2012-09-16 01:07:32 AM  
1 votes:
Uh-oh. The son of Ares and the son of Poseidon are gonna engage in a gentlemanly bout of fisticuffs.

I shall hide under some furniture.
2012-09-16 01:07:09 AM  
1 votes:

OnlyM3: yeah, it's much wiser to ignore them for 8 long years as they repeatedly make small scale strikes against the US and its interests as we build up a reputation as a "Paper tiger" and they build their courage.


LMMFAO. Really? Clinton did nothing? Are you COUNTING on people not having a memory?

Jesus. You war mongering farkwits never change...
2012-09-16 01:05:26 AM  
1 votes:

vygramul: Tyranicle: Hello? Jew? Hello? Why is the United States of America responsible for jewish intrests in Israel?

Because we have been bought off and manipulated by people who came across as caring friends. F+ck Israel.

Yes - we established you're Jewish. You're one of those Jews who hates Israel. We get it. You don't have to keep proving you're a "good" Jew. It's ok.


Well, they've kind of been dicks since they took a hard right religious turn the past few elections. I used to be a big fan of Israel.
2012-09-16 01:02:39 AM  
1 votes:

Tyranicle: Hello? Jew? Hello? Why is the United States of America responsible for jewish intrests in Israel?

Because we have been bought off and manipulated by people who came across as caring friends. F+ck Israel.


Yes - we established you're Jewish. You're one of those Jews who hates Israel. We get it. You don't have to keep proving you're a "good" Jew. It's ok.
2012-09-16 12:54:49 AM  
1 votes:
Oh atomicmask, thou offspring of a diseased flatworm, you shall not address mediablitz the son of Poseidon in so rude a manner!

I banish you in the name of the immortal sea!

Begone!
2012-09-16 12:52:20 AM  
1 votes:

Beer Drinking Masturbator: I really want someone to figure out the energy consumption that it would take to keep that in the air


I don't think it's possible for those 4 fans to offset the weight, but they're probably made from adamantium and charged with the power of Odin in comicbookland.
2012-09-16 12:51:30 AM  
1 votes:

Tyranicle: intelligent comment below: bunner: Who says we let these two theocracies, that have been fighting over the same God forsaken stinking desert since forever, just kill each other off and we use the money for bills?


Israel is a theocracy? You're comparing it to Iran? Could you be any more ignorant?

Besides, Israel would wipe the Iranian military off the map.

Jew, if 'Israel could wipe Iran off the map', where do the Americans come in? Why is it our responsibility?


Jew, if Israel couldn't, why would they have won every war they fought without the need for US personnel?
2012-09-16 12:46:31 AM  
1 votes:

Mike Chewbacca: Brick-House: This is about as no-win a situation as Obummer could get. No matter what he does, he's fuked in the eyes of the voter because he has had nearly 4 years to do something about this, but all he did was show weakness. So Iran is feeling froggy and I expect Egypt to jump into the game one the shooting starts.

And Obummer said that muslims would start to like us if he got elected. HaHaHaHaHaHaHaHaHaHaHaHaHaHaHaHaHaHaHaHaHaHaHaHaHaHaHaHaHaHaHaHaHaHaHa HaHaHaHaHaHaHaHaHaHaHaHaHaHaHaHaHaHaHa. What a joke we have for a president.

Obama is so weak, he let Bin Laden hide in Pakistan for 7 years and never really thought about him. Oh wait, no, that was Bush. Yeah, Obama's really weak on terrorists. That's why they're attacking embassies in their own countries and not flying planes into buildings.


To answer this, Im going to do what Obummer usually does and Blame Bush. Because all he did was use the intel that Bush got from waterboarding those guys we caught. So, OBL being dead is all W's fault.
2012-09-16 12:40:10 AM  
1 votes:

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Mideast gambit was my favorite:)
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2012-09-16 12:37:45 AM  
1 votes:
mediablitz

>>> atomicmask: mediablitz: atomicmask: what I hope it is- A massive coop strike by 25 nations to hit every islamic
>>> nation rioting or attacking embassies over the past 3 days.
>>>
>>> You are farking nuts.
>>>
>>> Nah, just aware of the world wide situation and not kidding myself anymore. Lets get it over with, one last great
>>> crusade against islam, while we still have a penny to spend in the fight and the means to take the fight to them.
>>>
Oh yeah. You're definitely crazy. Completely farking clueless, shortsighted, and crazy...

yeah, it's much wiser to ignore them for 8 long years as they repeatedly make small scale strikes against the US and its interests as we build up a reputation as a "Paper tiger" and they build their courage.

Otherwise known as the clinton-doctrine.

That would neeeeeeeeeeeever come back and bite us in the arse.
2012-09-16 12:32:20 AM  
1 votes:

atomicmask: Friend you are the one thinking that any resolution with a violent ideology other then total war is going to occur ever. One side is already engaged in it, maybe we should drop the pretenses and bullshiat and get with the program.



Start listing the wars in the Middle East perpetrated by those nations

Then start listing the ones started by America

So tell me again who is for total war?
2012-09-16 12:30:32 AM  
1 votes:

intelligent comment below: Israel is a theocracy?


It sure isn't a democracy.
2012-09-16 12:29:36 AM  
1 votes:
We should reconstitute the draft. How else could Americans fight for Jesus and jewish special intrest groups?
2012-09-16 12:28:20 AM  
1 votes:
Gentlemen, the missiles are flying.
Hallelujah! Hallelujah!
2012-09-16 12:27:13 AM  
1 votes:

fragMasterFlash: nuke Israel


really... nuke Israel??? so you're OK with all the crazy muslim fuks out there. You think they are just gonna be happy if israel is gone? You dear sir are simply stupid!
2012-09-16 12:24:40 AM  
1 votes:
tinfoil-hat maggie 2012-09-15 11:27:21 PM

Oh, come on can't we just have a small nuclear war :(
/Why do I never get any fun.


Might I suggest an initial strike of one max-yield neutron weapon detonated directly over the Dome of the Rock, with additional strikes over what's left of Jerusalem 20 seconds later?

Lights out very fast that way for those poor damned sods. :'(
2012-09-16 12:21:45 AM  
1 votes:
HMS Diamond, a brand-new £1billion Type 45 destroyer, one of the most powerful ships in the British fleet, will also be operating in the region.


Whoa....wait a second here....what the heck?
HMS Diamond (H22)

oh....pheweee! mis-clicked that one
2012-09-16 12:16:55 AM  
1 votes:
This is about as no-win a situation as Obummer could get. No matter what he does, he's fuked in the eyes of the voter because he has had nearly 4 years to do something about this, but all he did was show weakness. So Iran is feeling froggy and I expect Egypt to jump into the game one the shooting starts.

And Obummer said that muslims would start to like us if he got elected. HaHaHaHaHaHaHaHaHaHaHaHaHaHaHaHaHaHaHaHaHaHaHaHaHaHaHaHaHaHaHaHaHaHaHa HaHaHaHaHaHaHaHaHaHaHaHaHaHaHaHaHaHaHa. What a joke we have for a president.
2012-09-16 12:11:54 AM  
1 votes:
Can the Nobel people ask for their Peace Prize back?

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2012-09-16 12:10:18 AM  
1 votes:

tenpoundsofcheese: blacksharpiemarker: mediablitz: fark you Israel. You don't get to dictate to the world.

They already do.

well when our President is either campaigning or golfing, someone has to show leadership.


That's why we elected Obama. We wanted a change from that.
2012-09-16 12:05:50 AM  
1 votes:

atomicmask: I am crazy? Friend you are the one thinking that any resolution with a violent ideology other then total war is going to occur ever. One side is already engaged in it, maybe we should drop the pretenses and bullshiat and get with the program.


Take another pill, climb back in your bottle. MOST of us want to live out our lives. The violent ideology is yours...

And what side is involved in violent war? How many countries are we in?

You sound like a drunk fire control tech on my submarine. "Let's start a nuclear war so we can FIX THINGS".

Seek help.l
2012-09-16 12:05:21 AM  
1 votes:

jtown: talkertopc: I read it as "An armada of US and British naval power is missing in the Persian Gulf" the first time. I just finished reading the Axis of Time trilogy so that might explain it.

I thought the same thing and I have no idea what the Axis of Time trilogy is so that may not explain it.


Short version:

In an alternate 2021, a UN carrier group goes missing off Indonesia, and pops up in 1942 just prior to the Battle of Midway, and accidentally wipes out the US Pacific fleet upon arrival. Some scatter also hands Hitler, Yamamoto, and Stalin bits and pieces of "uptime" technology. Mostly deals with culture differences (racism), implications of limited tech transfer, and what happens when (among other things) Stalin gets advance word of the Cold War in 1942, when he can actually do something about it.

/Also, it was written not too long after 9/11, so there are references to the whole "War against Islam" thing getting really, really nasty.
2012-09-16 12:03:56 AM  
1 votes:

YoungSwedishBlonde: A naval armada is massing overseas? Obama must be on his way to India again.


Armadas attack England, I believe.

Call the sea dogs!
2012-09-16 12:02:43 AM  
1 votes:
This article covers it nicely


Until now the U.S. and other Western powers have restrained Israel from launching what they believe could be a catastrophic war for very limited gains through imposing what even Washington's flagship Israel-lobbying organization, AIPAC, has called the "strongest set of sanctions to isolate any country during peacetime." And Israelis have long recognized that their threat to take unilateral military action gives them leverage over Western powers to demand ever tighter sanctions and pressure on Iran. When former Mossad chief Meir Dagan last year publicly ridiculed the idea of Israel attacking Iran as strategic folly, Haaretz columnist Ari Shavit excoriated him for letting the cat out of the bag:

The threat of a military attack against Iran ... is crucial for scaring the Iranians and for goading on the Americans and the Europeans. It is also crucial for spurring on the Chinese and the Russians. Israel must not behave like an insane country. Rather, it must create the fear that if it is pushed into a corner it will behave insanely. To ensure that Israel is not forced to bomb Iran, it must maintain the impression that it is about to bomb Iran.
2012-09-15 11:54:32 PM  
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omgwtfetc: It's disgraceful that your first reaction after implying you slept with someone's mom is to apologize. You commie pinko unamerican basta


Your mom has had more seamen in her then every single US Navy ship currently afloat.
2012-09-15 11:53:53 PM  
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atomicmask: mediablitz: atomicmask: what I hope it is- A massive coop strike by 25 nations to hit every islamic nation rioting or attacking embassies over the past 3 days.


You are farking nuts.

Nah, just aware of the world wide situation and not kidding myself anymore. Lets get it over with, one last great crusade against islam, while we still have a penny to spend in the fight and the means to take the fight to them.


Oh yeah. You're definitely crazy. Completely farking clueless, shortsighted, and crazy...
2012-09-15 11:53:20 PM  
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dodecahedron: ArkAngel: So what will the name of the next war be?

Desert ________ ?

Topping.


Fremen

Spice

Harkonen
2012-09-15 11:51:29 PM  
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atomicmask: what I hope it is- A massive coop strike by 25 nations to hit every islamic nation rioting or attacking embassies over the past 3 days.



You are farking nuts.
2012-09-15 11:51:13 PM  
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blacksharpiemarker: mediablitz: fark you Israel. You don't get to dictate to the world.

They already do.


No they don't. The Islamist have been running things for over 3 decades. Every body else has just been reacting to what these12th century backward a$$ religous shiatheads have done.
2012-09-15 11:43:32 PM  
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ArkAngel: So what will the name of the next war be?

Desert ________ ?

'Glass'.
2012-09-15 11:43:01 PM  
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Mohammed was Jewish.
2012-09-15 11:42:07 PM  
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mediablitz: Like they do every year at this time.

ANNUAL event.

Don't tell infowars though. They want you rubes to keep believing (and paying).


True...but it's still rotten timing.
2012-09-15 11:41:51 PM  
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ArkAngel: So what will the name of the next war be?

Desert ________ ?


Desert Parking Lot, I suspect.
2012-09-15 11:41:03 PM  
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Cross posted to the Politics Tab? Oh boy, better make popcorn.
2012-09-15 11:38:54 PM  
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talkertopc: I read it as "An armada of US and British naval power is missing in the Persian Gulf" the first time. I just finished reading the Axis of Time trilogy so that might explain it.


I read it as "missing" myself at first.

And that's a great series, btw. Recommended for anyone who watched "The Final Countdown" and was disappointed they didn't get to stay and kick ass.


traylor: [jaypgreene.files.wordpress.com image 618x347]


Surprised it took 29 posts for that one.
2012-09-15 11:38:26 PM  
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ArkAngel: So what will the name of the next war be?

Desert ________ ?


Sea storm.

Seriously, they should be watching for storms.
2012-09-15 11:37:10 PM  
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Brontes: Aren't battleships cruise missile boats now? Isn't how we used ours in Gulf War 1?


That was 20 years ago. They are museums now.
2012-09-15 11:34:19 PM  
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jaypgreene.files.wordpress.com
2012-09-15 11:33:56 PM  
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Okay 2 things,

1) This is news? Since when do we not have a massive amount of navy ships in the persian gulf?

B) Who the hell still uses battleships?
2012-09-15 11:30:07 PM  
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blacksharpiemarker: mediablitz: fark you Israel. You don't get to dictate to the world.

They already do.


No. They don't. If they DID, Iran would have been bombed in one of the last 17 YEARS Israel claimed Iran would have "the bomb". Yep, 17 straight years making that claim.

They TRY, and our right wing willingly plays along.
2012-09-15 11:28:31 PM  
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This is a really bad article that is even below the Televraphs normally subpar standards.
2012-09-15 11:27:27 PM  
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gopher321: Battleships, aircraft carriers, minesweepers and submarines from 25 nations are converging on the strategically important Strait of Hormuz in an unprecedented show of force as Israel and Iran move towards the brink of war.

Somebody still uses battleships?


Didn't you see the movie? They can even fight off an alien invasion!
2012-09-15 11:27:19 PM  
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mediablitz: fark you Israel. You don't get to dictate to the world.


They already do.
2012-09-15 11:24:09 PM  
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gopher321: Somebody still uses battleships?


i48.tinypic.com


Just really sh*tty directors.
2012-09-15 11:21:38 PM  
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So what will the name of the next war be?

Desert ________ ?
 
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