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2012-09-16 08:04:53 PM

whidbey: Amos Quito lost what small amount of credibility he had when he threadshat a discussion, stating how blacks don't really benefit from public services and based his entire position on "a lifetime of personal experience."


Nice quotation marks, Whidbey. Would you kindly produce a link to that quote?

What's that? You can't?

What a surprise.

But you're not entirely off the mark. I do believe that the Great Society (and similar programs) have done far more harm than good to the black community - effectively destroying the core family units and entrapping them in a whirlpool of government dependence. But that is for another thread.

whidbey: Really, just put the bugger on ignore and move on. Fark isn't going to ban him.



I'm sure you've tried to have me banned. Understandable, considering the fact that I'm usually on the money, and debating me on the issues is usually an exercise in futility.

It's not that I don't like you, Whidbey, I just think your pseudo-religious political devotion has you perpetually befuddled, is all.

:-)
 
2012-09-16 08:22:19 PM
I just got Amos tagged as "racist".
 
2012-09-16 08:25:08 PM

Amos Quito: It's not that I don't like you, Whidbey, I just think your pseudo-religious political devotion has you perpetually befuddled, is all.


Not that I'm defending your position, but that's not the problem with Whidbey. The problem is he's terribly thin skinned. And baked out of his farking mind.
 
2012-09-16 08:28:29 PM

Amos Quito: bedtundy: As an American, what other non-assimilating, racist, self-absorbed, ethnocentric groups do you think I should be "screaming" about?

wow... that's just... wow...

Tell us how you really feel...


Ah, so pointing out racism and bigotry is now racist and bigoted.

AMIRITE?



If you frame it in such a way that it comes off as racist, yes. Racism should be bad, period. Yet you want to seem to excuse one brand of racism over another because there is a yellow one that won't accept the black one that won't accept the red one, that won't accept the white one. Make sense? Probably not to you, but I'm sure most people get it.

.


Point of clarification: When people speak of the way that MUSLIMS behave or think, or that CHRISTIANS behave or think, we grant them a certain amount of license - knowing full well that said criticisms are directed at prevailing attitudes of the group, and that NO ONE is claiming that EACH AND EVERY Muslim, Christian, etc. subscribes to these behaviors / beliefs.

Capiche?



It's all in your framing. You don't want people to think you're targeting one race over another, then don't.


And I'll just bet that you can accept and understand the concept of criticizing repugnant / deleterious prevailing attitudes within Muslim, Christian, or other groups, can't you?

Why should those scrutinizing THAT GROUP be held to a different standard?


Now you're almost framing things as to how you want me to think. Not gonna work.
 
2012-09-16 08:30:16 PM

Amos Quito: Oh, and as to your new "Gotcha Amos" references, would you mind converting them into links? I haven't the patience to type them in manually.


Hey Amos! I figured out how to do it.

From now on, just click here if you want to see your posts that other people have identified as racist or stupid Link
 
2012-09-16 08:48:59 PM

RoyBatty: Amos Quito: Apparently U no capiche, RoyBatty, because my crystal clear point was that GROUPS can be criticized AS GROUPS without assigning any belief, behavior or thought to all INDIVIDUALS in that group - JEWS INCLUDED.

Still doesn't explain your anti-semitism....

Oh, and as to your new "Gotcha Amos" references, would you mind converting them into links? I haven't the patience to type them in manually.

Favorites and images don't really work that way. Annoys me too.

However, all you really need to do, all anyone needs to do, is just shout out in any thread, "Can someone send me a link to where Amos Quito makes an anti-semitic remark?" You'll get lots of links.



Well, no, not really. What you'll get is a lot of biatching and moaning people AGREEING that I am an anti-Semite (they've heard the accusation so often that it MUST be true, right?), but you'll rarely if ever get links to posts - because the "proof" for all of theses accusations is in their heads: "Amos said this so he must REALLY mean that!

Occasionally some brave soul such as yourself will actually link to a post - but when it is actually read, it generally bears little semblance to the charges levied by the accuser.

One particular fellow - "Tappy" (thinks he's a hero) likes to link to THREADS that are often hundreds of posts long, but he can never link to a post or provide an actual quote to back up his allegations.


J'accuse!
J'accuse!
J'accuse!


But the proof is in the pudding, y'know, and apparently there's never any room for JELL-O after all.

Then (of course) there are the "liberal" definitions of "anti-Semitism", which most people seem to define as "anything that might be deemed as unflattering / offensive to Jews, Judaism, Israel, or Zionism.

But you know how it goes with The Big Lie - repeat it often enough, and the suckers - too lazy to do their own research - will buy it.

Cheers, RoyBatty!
 
2012-09-16 08:54:50 PM

bedtundy: Amos Quito: bedtundy: As an American, what other non-assimilating, racist, self-absorbed, ethnocentric groups do you think I should be "screaming" about?

wow... that's just... wow...

Tell us how you really feel...


Ah, so pointing out racism and bigotry is now racist and bigoted.

AMIRITE?



If you frame it in such a way that it comes off as racist, yes. Racism should be bad, period. Yet you want to seem to excuse one brand of racism over another because there is a yellow one that won't accept the black one that won't accept the red one, that won't accept the white one. Make sense? Probably not to you, but I'm sure most people get it.



Above RoyBatty linked to one of my posts from an earlier thread. It explains my position in a fair amount of detail. Apparently you didn't read it, otherwise you wouldn't be carrying on so.

Read my other posts in that thread as well.

:-)
 
2012-09-16 08:56:46 PM

RoyBatty: Amos Quito: Oh, and as to your new "Gotcha Amos" references, would you mind converting them into links? I haven't the patience to type them in manually.

Hey Amos! I figured out how to do it.

From now on, just click here if you want to see your posts that other people have identified as racist or stupid Link



Wow! That link just took me to the "recent" section of your profile, RoyBatty.

I didn't think that was possible.

/Spooky

;-)
 
2012-09-16 09:10:08 PM
RoyBatty:


Hey, just clicked back to the main page and found out it's Rosh Hashanah!


Happy New Year to you and yours, RoyBatty!
 
2012-09-16 09:11:54 PM
I love how so many farkers just throw their stupid opinion around about how this will all play out. God bless free speech, but lord almighty, some of you just blab on and on about nothing. Granted some farkers know their shiat, but for all of you who know you don't have an ounce of real experience in foreign policy just shut up already and let the big boys speak.

/Done rant
//Only post when I see the need to
///Self appointed mod? yes.
 
2012-09-16 09:15:06 PM

japple1863: Granted some farkers know their shiat, but for all of you who know you don't have an ounce of real experience in foreign policy just shut up already and let the big boys speak.


I love how you added absolutely nothing to the thread but still feel like you are such a great mind on the subject.
 
2012-09-16 09:20:36 PM

Amos Quito: Above RoyBatty linked to one of my posts from an earlier thread. It explains my position in a fair amount of detail. Apparently you didn't read it, otherwise you wouldn't be carrying on so.

Read my other posts in that thread as well.


Yes, that entire thread of Amos Quito is worth reading if you want to know more about one of FARK's most charming racists and how he rationalizes it.
 
2012-09-16 09:21:51 PM

Amos Quito: RoyBatty:


Hey, just clicked back to the main page and found out it's Rosh Hashanah!


Happy New Year to you and yours, RoyBatty!


Thank you. It's my favorite Jewish Holiday (Thanksgiving is my favorite American Holiday). And both make me stop the low carb keto diet for a few days.
 
2012-09-16 09:32:11 PM
Amos Quito:

Curious, do you self identify as Christian?

/no this isn't a "gotcha" question, pinky swear
 
2012-09-16 09:34:04 PM
 
2012-09-16 09:37:30 PM

RoyBatty: Amos Quito: Above RoyBatty linked to one of my posts from an earlier thread. It explains my position in a fair amount of detail. Apparently you didn't read it, otherwise you wouldn't be carrying on so.

Read my other posts in that thread as well.

Yes, that entire thread of Amos Quito is worth reading if you want to know more about one of FARK's most charming racists and how he rationalizes it.



I still fail to see how you interpret my no-holds-barred criticism of racism, ethnocentrism, ultranationalism, and other "ism's" that divide humanity and keep us trying to kill one another as "racism".

beancounters.blogs.com

We're awake, but we're very puzzled.
 
2012-09-16 09:41:27 PM

rohar: Amos Quito:

Curious, do you self identify as Christian?

/no this isn't a "gotcha" question, pinky swear



No sir.

Not religious in any sense.

In fact, it would seem to me that religion is antithetical to "sense".

But there is more to some "religions" than simple "religion", you understand.
 
2012-09-16 09:46:01 PM

vygramul: Those farking Israelis, eamirite Amos?



What's you point, vygramul? You got something against kosher food?
 
2012-09-16 09:46:38 PM

Amos Quito: rohar: Amos Quito:

Curious, do you self identify as Christian?

/no this isn't a "gotcha" question, pinky swear


No sir.

Not religious in any sense.

In fact, it would seem to me that religion is antithetical to "sense".

But there is more to some "religions" than simple "religion", you understand.


Had to ask. Turns out I see myself as a practicing Christian, but hardly religious. Churches ain't my thing. But then I agree with most of what you posted in this thread. Here's the kicker, some here would call me anti semitic for agreeing with your views. How is that possible if I am semitic. So is Ahmadinnerjacket. How the hell does that work?
 
2012-09-16 09:51:36 PM

TheJoe03: japple1863: Granted some farkers know their shiat, but for all of you who know you don't have an ounce of real experience in foreign policy just shut up already and let the big boys speak.

I love how you added absolutely nothing to the thread but still feel like you are such a great mind on the subject.


....I guess we are both guilty of adding nothing then.

/you almost complain as good as I do...almost.
 
2012-09-16 09:57:59 PM

Amos Quito: I still fail to see how you interpret my no-holds-barred criticism of racism, ethnocentrism, ultranationalism, and other "ism's" that divide humanity and keep us trying to kill one another as "racism".


I have to run, but that was asked and answered in that thread. You asked, me and muck4doo and others answered.

In short:

You have said over and over the Jews should assimilate completely, and so should everyone else.

You have agreed that you feel that in this process of assimilation, you yourself would have nothing to give up, but everyone not assimilated would only have to give up their cultural identities.

And then in reality you only focus on the Jews.

That basically means everyone not you needs to become you, a white Caucasian Protestant (?) much more than it means becoming some sort of futurtopia enlightened star fleet netizen.
 
2012-09-16 09:58:34 PM

japple1863: ....I guess we are both guilty of adding nothing then.


Yeah but I wasn't being an annoying smug douche about it.
 
2012-09-16 10:06:33 PM

Amos Quito: vygramul: Those farking Israelis, eamirite Amos?


What's you point, vygramul? You got something against kosher food?


I'll leave it for the reader to decide whether your focus - nay, obsession - with one group of people, and the manner in which you present your distaste, constitutes bigotry. Suffice to say, your protests do not explain how you engaged the subject in the referenced link.
 
2012-09-16 10:12:52 PM

vygramul: Amos Quito: vygramul: Those farking Israelis, eamirite Amos?


What's you point, vygramul? You got something against kosher food?

I'll leave it for the reader to decide whether your focus - nay, obsession - with one group of people, and the manner in which you present your distaste, constitutes bigotry. Suffice to say, your protests do not explain how you engaged the subject in the referenced link.


I can have serious misgivings with Iran without having anything against Islam. How is what he's saying any different? I do have serious misgivings about Israel without having issues with Jews.
 
2012-09-16 10:27:35 PM

rohar: vygramul: Amos Quito: vygramul: Those farking Israelis, eamirite Amos?


What's you point, vygramul? You got something against kosher food?

I'll leave it for the reader to decide whether your focus - nay, obsession - with one group of people, and the manner in which you present your distaste, constitutes bigotry. Suffice to say, your protests do not explain how you engaged the subject in the referenced link.

I can have serious misgivings with Iran without having anything against Islam. How is what he's saying any different? I do have serious misgivings about Israel without having issues with Jews.


Oh, that is certainly possible. But go to the link I posted where Amos is comparing Jews to the KKK in a thread that has nothing to do with Zionism nor Israel.
 
2012-09-16 10:38:05 PM

vygramul: rohar: vygramul: Amos Quito: vygramul: Those farking Israelis, eamirite Amos?


What's you point, vygramul? You got something against kosher food?

I'll leave it for the reader to decide whether your focus - nay, obsession - with one group of people, and the manner in which you present your distaste, constitutes bigotry. Suffice to say, your protests do not explain how you engaged the subject in the referenced link.

I can have serious misgivings with Iran without having anything against Islam. How is what he's saying any different? I do have serious misgivings about Israel without having issues with Jews.

Oh, that is certainly possible. But go to the link I posted where Amos is comparing Jews to the KKK in a thread that has nothing to do with Zionism nor Israel.


They were both Semites. Both hell bent on expanding their domain. Neither had any serious legal (local or international) claim to what they were doing. You'll gladly tell me how he was wrong?
 
2012-09-16 10:50:58 PM

rohar: Amos Quito: rohar: Amos Quito:

Curious, do you self identify as Christian?

/no this isn't a "gotcha" question, pinky swear


No sir.

Not religious in any sense.

In fact, it would seem to me that religion is antithetical to "sense".

But there is more to some "religions" than simple "religion", you understand.

Had to ask. Turns out I see myself as a practicing Christian, but hardly religious. Churches ain't my thing. But then I agree with most of what you posted in this thread. Here's the kicker, some here would call me anti semitic for agreeing with your views. How is that possible if I am semitic. So is Ahmadinnerjacket. How the hell does that work?



Yeah, your agreeing with me on any point is likely to get you tagged with the Scarlet Letter of Fark. Personally, I don't worry about such trivia. I'm not fond of folks who s-t-r-e-t-c-h the truth in defense of their hypocrisy, but neither do I shirk from their attacks.

Kevlar skin. You'd have to work pretty damn hard to offend / rile me.

As for religion, as I said, I don't play, but that doesn't mean that I'm an "atheist" - in fact I'm currently inclined to "believe" that there is only one thing, that the one thing is all things and no thing. "God" is the creator AND the creation, and the stuff from which all things were created - if indeed anything exists beyond the realm of consciousness.

Just a thought. I shall continue to contemplate, and weigh other options.

And yes, Ahmadinnerjacket is said to be Jewish - and Libya's anti-Semitic Colonel Muammar Gadhafi was unquestionably Jewish.

But it seems that it is not WHAT you are that matters, but what you THINK you are, and how you behave in your dealings with others.

Peace, and Happy New Year.

Let's have another!
 
2012-09-16 10:53:46 PM

Amos Quito: And yes, Ahmadinnerjacket is said to be Jewish - and Libya's anti-Semitic Colonel Muammar Gadhafi was unquestionably Jewish.


Damnit you dolt, you don't know the words used in this thread either.

Ahmadinnerjacket is likely Muslim. Muslims are semitic. So are Christians. The result is that none of them can be antisemitic. They ARE semitic.
 
2012-09-16 10:59:06 PM

vygramul: rohar: vygramul: Amos Quito: vygramul: Those farking Israelis, eamirite Amos?


What's you point, vygramul? You got something against kosher food?

I'll leave it for the reader to decide whether your focus - nay, obsession - with one group of people, and the manner in which you present your distaste, constitutes bigotry. Suffice to say, your protests do not explain how you engaged the subject in the referenced link.

I can have serious misgivings with Iran without having anything against Islam. How is what he's saying any different? I do have serious misgivings about Israel without having issues with Jews.

Oh, that is certainly possible. But go to the link I posted where Amos is comparing Jews to the KKK in a thread that has nothing to do with Zionism nor Israel.



Headline of that thread:

Assemblyman apologizes for talking about crime in his 'Negrohood'

Neighborhood: BROOKLYN. Assemblyman: JEWISH, and had the NERVE to say that, as a Russian Jew, he couldn't POSSIBLY be racist!

""For the record, to accuse me or my campaign of intentionally using racially inflammatory language is an insult. As a person who faced the scourge of discrimination for being born Jewish in the Soviet Union, I reject any form of racial and ethnic bias."

Yeah. Right.

The K K K symbols I posted were all the marks of Jewish KASHRUTH organizations - outfits that certify foods and other goodies as KOSHER.

Were you really too dense to get the humor?

G'nite!
 
2012-09-17 12:01:49 AM

rohar: So are Christians.


Uh no, unless you mean Arab Christians or something.
 
2012-09-17 12:06:30 AM

TheJoe03: rohar: So are Christians.

Uh no, unless you mean Arab Christians or something.


Sem·ite
[sem-ahyt or, especially Brit., see-mahyt] Show IPA
noun
1.
a member of any of various ancient and modern peoples originating in southwestern Asia, including the Akkadians, Canaanites, Phoenicians, Hebrews, and Arabs.
2.
a Jew.
3.
a member of any of the peoples descended from Shem, the eldest son of Noah.

LOLWUT?
 
2012-09-17 01:00:18 AM

rohar: LOLWUT?


I say the same to you. There is no evidence Europeans are descended from Shem, the Bible is not proof. The Bible never even says they are anyway. Finally, Semitic relates to language, so you're wrong in that way as well. Good job showing yourself to be clueless though.
 
2012-09-17 01:02:12 AM
You are honestly the only one here dumb enough to think Europeans are Semitic, not sure who told you they are. Take an anthropology class or something.
 
2012-09-17 01:21:42 AM

TheJoe03: You are honestly the only one here dumb enough to think Europeans are Semitic, not sure who told you they are. Take an anthropology class or something.


I didn't say that did I. I said both Christianity and the Muslim religions are Semitic religions. Unless you think Jesus and Mohamed weren't Semitic.
 
2012-09-17 01:43:06 AM
You're saying Christians are Semitic because Jesus was and it is impossible for a Christian to be anti-Semitic because of that?
 
2012-09-17 02:23:24 AM

rohar: Muslims are semitic.


This to me is incorrect as well. Using your example of Amehdinajad (sp) and Qaddafi I must point out that Persian is not a Semitic language, and many North Africans are Berber (if not most, at least ethnically as opposed to being culturally Arabic).
 
2012-09-17 02:35:06 AM

CigaretteSmokingMan: Where in the Constitution is Israel given the right to make us declare war?


It's in secret amendment they snuck in while everyone was looking away
 
2012-09-17 07:56:34 AM

TheJoe03: rohar: LOLWUT?

I say the same to you. There is no evidence Europeans are descended from Shem, the Bible is not proof. The Bible never even says they are anyway. Finally, Semitic relates to language, so you're wrong in that way as well. Good job showing yourself to be clueless though.


Maybe because the Bible is a gigantic collection of bullshiat?
 
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