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2012-09-16 12:01:28 PM
Israelis starting another war?

When do we apologize to Mel Gibson?
 
2012-09-16 12:13:15 PM
www.globalpost.com 

Putin can hock cruise missile loogies. What's Obummer got?
 
2012-09-16 12:19:24 PM

Insatiable Jesus: Israelis starting another war?

When do we apologize to Mel Gibson?


William "Mad Max" Wallace don't need your apologies, sugartits.
 
2012-09-16 12:26:47 PM

Kittypie070: Mutilated Baby Penis would be an atrocious name for a band and I would throw Molotov cocktails at their concerts.


Everybody throws Molotov cocktails at Mutilated Baby Penis concerts, poser.
 
2012-09-16 12:41:41 PM
ummm... Doesn't the larger troop withdrawals start soon? Nahhh. IT'S WW3!!!! WE'RE ALL GONNA DIES!!!
 
2012-09-16 12:42:06 PM

sendtodave: gopher321: Somebody still uses battleships?

Real men do.

[24.media.tumblr.com image 500x625]


Looking at this as my wife does dishes in the kitchen behind me.
 
2012-09-16 12:45:47 PM

ArkAngel: So what will the name of the next war be?

Desert ________ ?


Desert Glass
 
2012-09-16 12:46:47 PM

intelligent comment below: nekulor: Modern Zionism is like dominionism for Jews. It's thankfully more specific and limited to one very small region of the planet, but it still sucks.


Feel free to link me to a citation showing it's "like" it in any way.


Let's do the math, shall we:

Crazed religious fundamentalists seeking to validate a very narrow definition of a specific thing from their holy book of choice? check.

Heavily embedded sentiments against another religion(s) in the region? Check.

Some pretty tough mental gymnastics to begin qualifying the outgroups (in this case, Palestinians and arabs) as inferior? Check.

An incredibly conservative core group that is pushing for more power within legitimate power structures in their home nation? Check.


All the hardcore modern zionists are missing is a healthy dose of misogyny and they're on the right track to be able to swap stories with Huckabee et. al.
 
2012-09-16 01:15:48 PM
thamike 2012-09-16 12:26:47 PM

Kittypie070: Mutilated Baby Penis would be an atrocious name for a band and I would throw Molotov cocktails at their concerts.

Everybody throws Molotov cocktails at Mutilated Baby Penis concerts, poser.


Dammit!!

/honoured to be one-upped by a true professional, sir!
 
2012-09-16 02:01:02 PM

ArkAngel: So what will the name of the next war be?

Desert ________ ?



Dessert Dessert.


/It's a three-course meal
 
2012-09-16 02:10:09 PM
Late to the thread, but it is well known that Israel has been bleating this bullshiat for decades, that the "existential threat" of Iran's supposed "KILL ALL JEWS!!!" is an outright lie (Iran has a large Jewish population that is treated VERY well), and that Israel has done nothing but make enemies with everyone in the region since the Racist Regime was C-Sectioned into existence back in the 40's.

Israel is the aggressor here.

Israel is the one who is threatening to unilaterally attack Iran - not the other way around.

It would seem to me that the best course of action would be to send in massive flotillas of US, British, German, French, Russian, Chinese (whoever) off the coast of Israel, and let them know, on no uncertain terms, that if they act aggressively against Iran, we're going to cut US financial aid to the Jewish State by 3%.

Too radical?
 
2012-09-16 02:20:20 PM

Science_Guy_3.14159: Tyranicle: Hello? Jew? Hello? Why is the United States of America responsible for jewish intrests in Israel?

Because we have been bought off and manipulated by people who came across as caring friends. F+ck Israel.

Whatever happened to The Enemy of my Enemy is my Friend?



So I guess that would make Iran a "friend" of the US, right?
 
2012-09-16 02:21:26 PM

Amos Quito: Late to the thread, but it is well known that Israel has been bleating this bullshiat for decades, that the "existential threat" of Iran's supposed "KILL ALL JEWS!!!" is an outright lie (Iran has a large Jewish population that is treated VERY well), and that Israel has done nothing but make enemies with everyone in the region since the Racist Regime was C-Sectioned into existence back in the 40's.

Israel is the aggressor here.

Israel is the one who is threatening to unilaterally attack Iran - not the other way around.

It would seem to me that the best course of action would be to send in massive flotillas of US, British, German, French, Russian, Chinese (whoever) off the coast of Israel, and let them know, on no uncertain terms, that if they act aggressively against Iran, we're going to cut US financial aid to the Jewish State by 3%.

Too radical?


You're still around? I thought you left after you were caught blaming Jews in a thread that had nothing even remotely to do with Israel.
 
2012-09-16 02:37:04 PM

Amos Quito: Late to the thread, but it is well known that Israel has been bleating this bullshiat for decades, that the "existential threat" of Iran's supposed "KILL ALL JEWS!!!" is an outright lie (Iran has a large Jewish population that is treated VERY well), and that Israel has done nothing but make enemies with everyone in the region since the Racist Regime was C-Sectioned into existence back in the 40's.

Israel is the aggressor here.

Israel is the one who is threatening to unilaterally attack Iran - not the other way around.


It would seem to me that the best course of action would be to send in massive flotillas of US, British, German, French, Russian, Chinese (whoever) off the coast of Israel, and let them know, on no uncertain terms, that if they act aggressively against Iran, we're going to cut US financial aid to the Jewish State by 3%.

Too radical?


In complete fairness, Israel's history has shown that:

1) They are tiny. Like New Jersey tiny. If they get attacked in a major way, there's no buffer at all. (Or from the nuclear perspective, you don't need all that many nukes to cripple them)
2) So far, anti-Israeli rhetoric has been matched by action. Since its establishment in 1948, the State of Israel has fought seven recognized wars, two Palestinian intifadas, and a series of armed conflicts in the broader Arab-Israeli conflict.
3) Launching preemptive strikes has worked out really, really well for Israel (1967), while sitting and waiting to be attacked has been less so (1973).
4) You have an extremely rhetorically crazy regime in Iran, that:
a) might judge the eradication of Israel as a fair trade for their own immediate destruction.
b) With the recent downgrading of Iraq's power status, is in a position where reality can be made to match rhetoric (instead of being a counter to Iraq ala the 1980's)
c) Is actively seeking nukes.

So why shouldn't they be at least considering an attack (and in the process, maybe convincing other people with more influence to do something to keep Iran from getting nukes, if only to prevent an Israeli attack that leads to WWIII)? Logistically, it's impossible without serious US help and acquiescence by several Arab nations, but in their place, I'd at least be looking at it.
 
2012-09-16 02:38:40 PM

vygramul: Amos Quito: Late to the thread, but it is well known that Israel has been bleating this bullshiat for decades, that the "existential threat" of Iran's supposed "KILL ALL JEWS!!!" is an outright lie (Iran has a large Jewish population that is treated VERY well), and that Israel has done nothing but make enemies with everyone in the region since the Racist Regime was C-Sectioned into existence back in the 40's.

Israel is the aggressor here.

Israel is the one who is threatening to unilaterally attack Iran - not the other way around.

It would seem to me that the best course of action would be to send in massive flotillas of US, British, German, French, Russian, Chinese (whoever) off the coast of Israel, and let them know, on no uncertain terms, that if they act aggressively against Iran, we're going to cut US financial aid to the Jewish State by 3%.

Too radical?

You're still around? I thought you left after you were caught blaming Jews in a thread that had nothing even remotely to do with Israel.



WTF are you talking about?

And since when does the sphere of the influence of "Jews" stop at the Israeli border?


Hasbara FTW.
 
2012-09-16 02:52:09 PM

meyerkev: Amos Quito: Late to the thread, but it is well known that Israel has been bleating this bullshiat for decades, that the "existential threat" of Iran's supposed "KILL ALL JEWS!!!" is an outright lie (Iran has a large Jewish population that is treated VERY well), and that Israel has done nothing but make enemies with everyone in the region since the Racist Regime was C-Sectioned into existence back in the 40's.

Israel is the aggressor here.

Israel is the one who is threatening to unilaterally attack Iran - not the other way around.

It would seem to me that the best course of action would be to send in massive flotillas of US, British, German, French, Russian, Chinese (whoever) off the coast of Israel, and let them know, on no uncertain terms, that if they act aggressively against Iran, we're going to cut US financial aid to the Jewish State by 3%.

Too radical?

In complete fairness, Israel's history has shown that:

1) They are tiny. Like New Jersey tiny. If they get attacked in a major way, there's no buffer at all. (Or from the nuclear perspective, you don't need all that many nukes to cripple them)
2) So far, anti-Israeli rhetoric has been matched by action. Since its establishment in 1948, the State of Israel has fought seven recognized wars, two Palestinian intifadas, and a series of armed conflicts in the broader Arab-Israeli conflict.
3) Launching preemptive strikes has worked out really, really well for Israel (1967), while sitting and waiting to be attacked has been less so (1973).
4) You have an extremely rhetorically crazy regime in Iran, that:
a) might judge the eradication of Israel as a fair trade for their own immediate destruction.
b) With the recent downgrading of Iraq's power status, is in a position where reality can be made to match rhetoric (instead of being a counter to Iraq ala the 1980's)
c) Is actively seeking nukes.

So why shouldn't they be at least considering an attack (and in the process, maybe convincing other people with more in ...



I thought that we, as a planet that supposed to be progressively working toward an enlightened era of peace, that we were supposed to be trying to rid ourselves of the scourge of xenophobia, ethnic supremacy, and racism. No?

It would seem to me that Zionism and the Zionist State are antithetical to that goal - a remnant of an ugly part of human history that can no longer be tolerated if modern global society is to thrive.

I think we can live without Zionism and the ugliness that it embodies, don't you?
 
2012-09-16 03:08:17 PM

vygramul: You're still around? I thought you left after you were caught blaming Jews in a thread that had nothing even remotely to do with Israel.


Whenever you hear a high pitched whining "jewwwwwssssss" in any thread and you can't quite place it, look for amos quito in your ears.
 
2012-09-16 03:13:41 PM
i.imgur.com
 
2012-09-16 03:15:45 PM

RoyBatty: vygramul: You're still around? I thought you left after you were caught blaming Jews in a thread that had nothing even remotely to do with Israel.

Whenever you hear a high pitched whining "jewwwwwssssss" in any thread and you can't quite place it, look for amos quito in your ears.



So, what do you say, RoyBatty?

Do you support Bibi starting WWIII under the false pretense that Israel (and by imaginary extension - all Jews) faces an "existential threat" because Iran might be working on technology that might one day give them the ability to maybe make a nuclear weapon that might be used against the Zionist State?
 
2012-09-16 03:19:44 PM

tzzhc4: yelmrog: Why don't we take all the Jews out of Israel and relocate them to Florida with the rest? Totally seems like a win-win. I mean, we put them back there (the middle east) in the first place, we can take'em back out, right?

Look up what the Zionists are. Basically there is a large portion of the US population that thinks the Jews have to occupy Israel in order for Jesus to return. This is why some many in the GOP freak out when politicians don't support Israel as they see it being tantamount to not supporting Jesus.



And why should we "support Jesus"?

Tell him to get a job.
 
2012-09-16 03:37:22 PM

Zeno-25: [i.imgur.com image 720x540]


Looks shopped.
 
2012-09-16 03:58:05 PM

Amos Quito: RoyBatty: vygramul: You're still around? I thought you left after you were caught blaming Jews in a thread that had nothing even remotely to do with Israel.

Whenever you hear a high pitched whining "jewwwwwssssss" in any thread and you can't quite place it, look for amos quito in your ears.


So, what do you say, RoyBatty?

Do you support Bibi starting WWIII under the false pretense that Israel (and by imaginary extension - all Jews) faces an "existential threat" because Iran might be working on technology that might one day give them the ability to maybe make a nuclear weapon that might be used against the Zionist State?


I'm just not sure who is worse for humanity, Bibi farking around in our elections, or the overt antisemites like you enabling and encouraging all the casual antisemitism (and cries to nuke the whole middle east over) in threads like this one and across the world that give aid and comfort to Bibi and his supporters as well as the Bin Ladens, Khameneis, and al-Assads.

i.imgur.com

Amos Quito exists on the hate of others

i.imgur.com

Good Spirits finally drives Amos Quito away

i.imgur.com

Amos Quito, profile pic
 
2012-09-16 04:20:06 PM

shower_in_my_socks: Sabyen91: The Israeli government isn't sitting back and waiting. Bibi is actively stumping for Mitt and the opposition is calling him out on meddling in US elections. Link

I wouldn't be surprised if some of this bullshiat rioting in the Middle East has Israeli intelligence ops behind it. I have no evidence to support that, other than looking at who stands to benefit from it.


It does seem too well orchestrated to be just some guy doing it all.

Americans dead on the anniversary of 9/11?

I imagine whoever is ultimately responsible is more than a little annoyed at the measured response on Obama's part here.

I really don't wanna think what President McCain would be doing right now.

*shudder*

So, this armada thing is an annual event that has more participation than in previous years according to TFA.

So... annual show of force is even more showy this year?

Because Israel is signalling that it will act with or without international sanction in terms of "pre-emptively" attacking Iranian nuclear enrichment sites and western economies would be devastated if the strait of Hormuz is blocked by Iran in response even for a few weeks?

Interesting times, indeed.

At this point Mitt's special relationship with Bibi should be viewed very warily by the electorate.
 
2012-09-16 04:25:22 PM

rohar: We keep our ballistic missiles in the submarine fleet for good reason, skimmers can't be trusted with such things.


It was contemplated though, even so far as to have the hard mounts for Poseidon tubes installed on the Long Beach while she was being built. That's as far as it went though.
 
2012-09-16 04:51:31 PM
i172.photobucket.com
 
2012-09-16 05:03:50 PM

Satanic_Hamster: Zeno-25: [i.imgur.com image 720x540]

Looks shoppedshooped.

 
2012-09-16 05:25:28 PM

Amos Quito: meyerkev: Amos Quito: Late to the thread, but it is well known that Israel has been bleating this bullshiat for decades, that the "existential threat" of Iran's supposed "KILL ALL JEWS!!!" is an outright lie (Iran has a large Jewish population that is treated VERY well), and that Israel has done nothing but make enemies with everyone in the region since the Racist Regime was C-Sectioned into existence back in the 40's.

Israel is the aggressor here.

Israel is the one who is threatening to unilaterally attack Iran - not the other way around.

It would seem to me that the best course of action would be to send in massive flotillas of US, British, German, French, Russian, Chinese (whoever) off the coast of Israel, and let them know, on no uncertain terms, that if they act aggressively against Iran, we're going to cut US financial aid to the Jewish State by 3%.

Too radical?

In complete fairness, Israel's history has shown that:

1) They are tiny. Like New Jersey tiny. If they get attacked in a major way, there's no buffer at all. (Or from the nuclear perspective, you don't need all that many nukes to cripple them)
2) So far, anti-Israeli rhetoric has been matched by action. Since its establishment in 1948, the State of Israel has fought seven recognized wars, two Palestinian intifadas, and a series of armed conflicts in the broader Arab-Israeli conflict.
3) Launching preemptive strikes has worked out really, really well for Israel (1967), while sitting and waiting to be attacked has been less so (1973).
4) You have an extremely rhetorically crazy regime in Iran, that:
a) might judge the eradication of Israel as a fair trade for their own immediate destruction.
b) With the recent downgrading of Iraq's power status, is in a position where reality can be made to match rhetoric (instead of being a counter to Iraq ala the 1980's)
c) Is actively seeking nukes.

So why shouldn't they be at least considering an attack (and in the process, maybe convincing other people wit ...


Amos Quito: I thought that we, as a planet that supposed to be progressively working toward an enlightened era of peace, that we were supposed to be trying to rid ourselves of the scourge of xenophobia, ethnic supremacy, and racism. No?

It would seem to me that Zionism and the Zionist State are antithetical to that goal - a remnant of an ugly part of human history that can no longer be tolerated if modern global society is to thrive.

I think we can live without Zionism and the ugliness that it embodies, don't you?


But Muslim theocracies that embody pretty much (and more of) of what you claim the JEWWWSSSS! are doing in Israel are a-okay?
 
2012-09-16 05:29:27 PM

RoyBatty: So, what do you say, RoyBatty?

Do you support Bibi starting WWIII under the false pretense that Israel (and by imaginary extension - all Jews) faces an "existential threat" because Iran might be working on technology that might one day give them the ability to maybe make a nuclear weapon that might be used against the Zionist State?

I'm just not sure who is worse for humanity, Bibi farking around in our elections, or the overt antisemites like you enabling and encouraging all the casual antisemitism (and cries to nuke the whole middle east over) in threads like this one and across the world that give aid and comfort to Bibi and his supporters as well as the Bin Ladens, Khameneis, and al-Assads.



"Overt antisemite"?

Funny that anti-Semite card is always the weapon of first-resort when it comes to any discussion of the Zionist State and her supporters. If (as Samuel Johnson allegedly said) "patriotism is the last refuge of a scoundrel", then ad hominem attacks are surely the first.

Do you truly believe that Zionism (pre and post-Holocaust) has really served the long-term interests of the world in general, and of Jews in particular?

If so, how?
 
2012-09-16 05:36:46 PM

Amos Quito: Funny that anti-Semite card is always the weapon of first-resort when it comes to any discussion of the Zionist State and her supporters. If (as Samuel Johnson allegedly said) "patriotism is the last refuge of a scoundrel", then ad hominem attacks are surely the first.


Oh that's just silly. You've made yourself a long history at FARK in many many many threads not pertaining to Israel at all of being an anti-semite.

Dude, when you're intellectually honest I will respond to you. If you're going to pretend that you're just upset with Israel in contrast to your philosophical argument as to why you hate Jews Link than you are not even worth responding to. Yes, in that link you lay out grounds for why you hate all non assimilating groups, but we all know you only scream about the Jews. And that link is not about Israel, it's about Jews.

Own your anti-semitism Amos, be proud of it, because you certainly are loud about it.
 
2012-09-16 05:39:13 PM
Funny that anti-Semite card is always the weapon of first-resort when it comes to any discussion of the Zionist State and her supporters. If (as Samuel Johnson allegedly said) "patriotism is the last refuge of a scoundrel", then ad hominem attacks are surely the first.

Hey and Amos and others just search my posts in this thread to see how I've been ruthlessly defending Israel from criticism and resorting to cries of anti-semitism to do so.
 
2012-09-16 05:45:52 PM

CigaretteSmokingMan: [i172.photobucket.com image 538x467]


derp
 
2012-09-16 05:50:23 PM

bedtundy: But Muslim theocracies that embody pretty much (and more of) of what you claim the JEWWWSSSS! are doing in Israel are a-okay?



No.

But in general, we Americans don't coddle, support, defend, justify and enable these bigoted Muslim theocracies like we do the bigoted, racist, Zionist State, do we?

Hypocrisy FTW.
 
2012-09-16 06:13:25 PM

Amos Quito: RoyBatty: So, what do you say, RoyBatty?

Do you support Bibi starting WWIII under the false pretense that Israel (and by imaginary extension - all Jews) faces an "existential threat" because Iran might be working on technology that might one day give them the ability to maybe make a nuclear weapon that might be used against the Zionist State?

I'm just not sure who is worse for humanity, Bibi farking around in our elections, or the overt antisemites like you enabling and encouraging all the casual antisemitism (and cries to nuke the whole middle east over) in threads like this one and across the world that give aid and comfort to Bibi and his supporters as well as the Bin Ladens, Khameneis, and al-Assads.


"Overt antisemite"?

Funny that anti-Semite card is always the weapon of first-resort when it comes to any discussion of the Zionist State and her supporters. If (as Samuel Johnson allegedly said) "patriotism is the last refuge of a scoundrel", then ad hominem attacks are surely the first.

Do you truly believe that Zionism (pre and post-Holocaust) has really served the long-term interests of the world in general, and of Jews in particular?

If so, how?


You attacked Jews in a thread entirely unrelated to Israel or even the Middle East. So that Innocence Abused card that all anti-semites have has no credibility.
 
2012-09-16 06:40:14 PM
Where in the Constitution is Israel given the right to make us declare war?
 
2012-09-16 06:47:56 PM
<b><a href="http://www.fark.com/comments/7329786/79419161#c79419161" target="_blank">Amos Quito</a>:</b> <i>bedtundy: But Muslim theocracies that embody pretty much (and more of) of what you claim the JEWWWSSSS! are doing in Israel are a-okay?


No.

But in general, we Americans don't coddle, support, defend, justify and enable these bigoted Muslim theocracies like we do the bigoted, racist, Zionist State, do we?

Hypocrisy FTW.</i>

We don't? Really? We send billions to a number of Arab states NOT to attack Israel. We coddle both, yet it seems that we should be outraged more about one than the other? I don't get that.
 
2012-09-16 06:51:58 PM

CigaretteSmokingMan: Where in the Constitution is Israel given the right to make us declare war?


Where in reality are they making us declare war?
 
2012-09-16 06:56:26 PM

RoyBatty: Amos Quito: Funny that anti-Semite card is always the weapon of first-resort when it comes to any discussion of the Zionist State and her supporters. If (as Samuel Johnson allegedly said) "patriotism is the last refuge of a scoundrel", then ad hominem attacks are surely the first.

Oh that's just silly. You've made yourself a long history at FARK in many many many threads not pertaining to Israel at all of being an anti-semite.

Dude, when you're intellectually honest I will respond to you. If you're going to pretend that you're just upset with Israel in contrast to your philosophical argument as to why you hate Jews Link than you are not even worth responding to.



You really should stop linking to that thread, RoyBatty, as it always destroys the point you're trying to make.

From my post - emphasis added (thanks for the link):

"Why do I pay what you might believe is an inordinate amount of attention to a certain group? It may be because that particular group uniquely exemplifies the very spirit of separation, clanishness, ethnocentrism and nationalism more profoundly than any other I have encountered. Indeed, these characteristics are the very glue that has held this group together as a separate and distinct "people" through thousands of years of dwelling in diaspora - a nation within nations that refused to assimilate in spite of enormous pressure to do so.

While group solidarity is not necessarily a "bad" thing, trouble begins when the "perceived" interests of one self-identified group clash wit the "perceived" interests of another or others. This scenario has repeated itself time and again throughout history, often with disasterous results, and frankly that is what I see happening again, and it does NOT bode well for the best interests of ANY group, of humanity as a whole, or of the planet itself.
"


RoyBatty: Yes, in that link you lay out grounds for why you hate all non assimilating groups, but we all know you only scream about the Jews. And that link is not about Israel, it's about Jews.


As an American, what other non-assimilating, racist, self-absorbed, ethnocentric groups do you think I should be "screaming" about? And why should your favorite group be immune to any criticism?

In that post I clearly explained my concern with clinging to clannishness, ethnocentrism, racism and fanatical nationalism in the modern world. You got upset because you want the right to PRESERVE these divisive traits for YOUR group, while seeing them dissolved in other groups, a trait that is not uncommon amongst your fellows, I might add.

Here in the US we witnessed Jews racing to the Southern States in an apparent valiant and courageous effort to end segregative "apartheid", but simultaneously Jews were working to STRENGTHEN the segregative "apartheid" between Jews and non-Jews in the Zionist State, weren't they?

But is this an example of hypocrisy, or simply clever political maneuvering? When a group is a distinct minority (Jews in the US), does it not serve their purposes / advance group interests to weaken the dominant group by empowering fellow minorities (in the Civil Rights era, blacks)?

Conversely, when said group is a dominant MAJORITY (Jews in Israel) does it not serve their purposes / advance group interests to maintain that dominance by oppressing, weakening and disempowering those who might challenge their dominant status?

Either way you have a self-identified group actively and vigorously competing against other groups, and as I so eloquently stated in that other thread, this may have been a rational strategy in ages past, but in the modern age, it is the harbinger of worldwide calamity.

So no, RoyBatty, you can't have your cake (force others to integrate) and eat it too (maintain your ethno-supremacist identity), which is EXACTLY what Zionists and those that support the Zionist agenda are trying to do.
 
2012-09-16 07:03:18 PM
As an American, what other non-assimilating, racist, self-absorbed, ethnocentric groups do you think I should be "screaming" about?

wow... that's just... wow...

Tell us how you really feel...
 
2012-09-16 07:20:16 PM

vygramul: You attacked Jews in a thread entirely unrelated to Israel or even the Middle East.



I "ATTACKED Jews"???

Link please. And not just to the thread, but to the post. (No offense, but people who like to whine about anti-Semitism also seem to be confused about who said what. I'm sure you've noticed)

And "in a thread entirely unrelated to Israel or even the Middle East"??? So farking what? Last time I checked, Jews weren't confined to Israel or the Middle East. As a mater of fact, they make up circa 2% of the US population, and pound for pound, wield FAR more political power and media influence than other minority groups that are ten times their size.

It's no secret - they brag about it. "I know what America is," Netanyahu told a group of terror victims, apparently not knowing his words were being recorded. "America is a thing you can move very easily, move it in the right direction. They won't get in their way."


Am I an anti-Semite for quoting Bibi?

Sorry bubs, but when you have a group that wields IMMENSE political power in this country AND has demonstrated a strong tendency to place the interests of a foreign nation above the best interests of the nation where they reside, they're fair game for cold, harsh and dissective criticism.

You don't like it? Tough titties.

Sort your priorities out and get back to me.
 
2012-09-16 07:24:33 PM

Amos Quito: RoyBatty: Yes, in that link you lay out grounds for why you hate all non assimilating groups, but we all know you only scream about the Jews. And that link is not about Israel, it's about Jews.

As an American, what other non-assimilating, racist, self-absorbed, ethnocentric groups do you think I should be "screaming" about? And why should your favorite group be immune to any criticism?

In that post I clearly explained my concern with clinging to clannishness, ethnocentrism, racism and fanatical nationalism in the modern world. You got upset because you want the right to PRESERVE these divisive traits for YOUR group, while seeing them dissolved in other groups, a trait that is not uncommon amongst your fellows, I might add.


First the lie: "while seeing them dissolved in other groups,"
Then the specific antisemitic remark: "a trait that is not uncommon amongst your fellows"
All wrapped up in lots more racist remarks here.

You're right a amosquito, I am very wrong to link to that thread, it certainly disproves my points. Maybe I'll link to this comment of yours as well.
 
2012-09-16 07:26:40 PM
i.imgur.com
 
2012-09-16 07:28:08 PM
Amos Quito lost what small amount of credibility he had when he threadshat a discussion, stating how blacks don't really benefit from public services and based his entire position on "a lifetime of personal experience."

Really, just put the bugger on ignore and move on. Fark isn't going to ban him.
 
2012-09-16 07:31:01 PM

bedtundy: As an American, what other non-assimilating, racist, self-absorbed, ethnocentric groups do you think I should be "screaming" about?

wow... that's just... wow...

Tell us how you really feel...



Ah, so pointing out racism and bigotry is now racist and bigoted.

AMIRITE?


Point of clarification: When people speak of the way that MUSLIMS behave or think, or that CHRISTIANS behave or think, we grant them a certain amount of license - knowing full well that said criticisms are directed at prevailing attitudes of the group, and that NO ONE is claiming that EACH AND EVERY Muslim, Christian, etc. subscribes to these behaviors / beliefs.

Capiche?

And I'll just bet that you can accept and understand the concept of criticizing repugnant / deleterious prevailing attitudes within Muslim, Christian, or other groups, can't you?

Why should those scrutinizing THAT GROUP be held to a different standard?
 
2012-09-16 07:35:28 PM
That isn't what'll happen, but nice thought
 
2012-09-16 07:40:11 PM

RoyBatty: vygramul: You're still around? I thought you left after you were caught blaming Jews in a thread that had nothing even remotely to do with Israel.

Whenever you hear a high pitched whining "jewwwwwssssss" in any thread and you can't quite place it, look for amos quito in your ears.


Your text is now purple
 
2012-09-16 07:42:26 PM

Amos Quito: Ah, so pointing out racism and bigotry is now racist and bigoted


... but still you don't understand why most of FARK thinks you're an idiot.

Also, nice try with the argument that Jews all think alike.

i.imgur.com
 
2012-09-16 07:54:09 PM
Battleships? Hate to break it to ya Telegraph, but no world navy uses battleships anymore (they've all been retired).
 
2012-09-16 07:54:23 PM

RoyBatty: Also, nice try with the argument that Jews all think alike.



Is that what I said?

Why no, I said quite the opposite, in fact

From above:

"Point of clarification: When people speak of the way that MUSLIMS behave or think, or that CHRISTIANS behave or think, we grant them a certain amount of license - knowing full well that said criticisms are directed at prevailing attitudes of the group, and that NO ONE is claiming that EACH AND EVERY Muslim, Christian, etc. subscribes to these behaviors / beliefs.

Capiche?
"


Apparently U no capiche, RoyBatty, because my crystal clear point was that GROUPS can be criticized AS GROUPS without assigning any belief, behavior or thought to all INDIVIDUALS in that group - JEWS INCLUDED.

Time to update the prescription on those eyeglasses, RoyBatty.

Oh, and as to your new "Gotcha Amos" references, would you mind converting them into links? I haven't the patience to type them in manually.

Thanks!
 
2012-09-16 07:59:35 PM

Radioactive Ass: rohar: We keep our ballistic missiles in the submarine fleet for good reason, skimmers can't be trusted with such things.

It was contemplated though, even so far as to have the hard mounts for Poseidon tubes installed on the Long Beach while she was being built. That's as far as it went though.


Yeah, then the training system started being developed. After looking at the IQ they had to deal with on the surface, they scrapped the whole project.

/kidding, we love all of you skimmers!
 
2012-09-16 08:02:11 PM

Amos Quito: Apparently U no capiche, RoyBatty, because my crystal clear point was that GROUPS can be criticized AS GROUPS without assigning any belief, behavior or thought to all INDIVIDUALS in that group - JEWS INCLUDED.


Still doesn't explain your anti-semitism....

Oh, and as to your new "Gotcha Amos" references, would you mind converting them into links? I haven't the patience to type them in manually.

Favorites and images don't really work that way. Annoys me too.

However, all you really need to do, all anyone needs to do, is just shout out in any thread, "Can someone send me a link to where Amos Quito makes an anti-semitic remark?" You'll get lots of links.
 
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