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(NFL)   NFL memo congratulates replacement officials on "a successful week one," goes on to explain that whole "line of scrimmage" concept   (nfl.com) divider line 43
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2012-09-15 11:22:18 PM
The NFL just might pull this whole thing off.
 
2012-09-16 12:08:19 AM
So when are they going to get around to teaching them about PI?
 
2012-09-16 12:34:44 AM
FTFA: "Throw flags in a quiet area. Do not throw flags at players."

The fact that they have to be told not to throw the flag at the players...yeah...
 
2012-09-16 12:58:13 AM
The replacements suck. Just pay the Refs their money you goddamn tightwads.
 
2012-09-16 02:15:06 AM

RedPhoenix122: The fact that they have to be told not to throw the flag at the players...yeah...


Sadly, Orlando Brown is no longer around to punctuate that.
 
2012-09-16 02:32:40 AM

NewportBarGuy: The replacements suck. Just pay the Refs their money you goddamn tightwads.


B...b...but... UNIONS!
 
2012-09-16 02:55:46 AM
Did they also cover the number of timeouts per half each team gets?
 
2012-09-16 02:57:28 AM
They did a good job. There, I said it.
 
2012-09-16 02:59:24 AM
Must have been a lot of complaints of defensive offsides.

The challenge flag comment clearly came from the GB game. The funny part is that it was a auto-failed challenge even before he threw it, and if he could have, he would have taken it back. Lol
 
2012-09-16 03:10:46 AM

GAT_00: So when are they going to get around to teaching them about PI?


That's graduate-level material. Even the union refs have trouble with it. So... Week 12 at the earliest.
 
2012-09-16 03:12:12 AM

NewportBarGuy: The replacements suck. Just pay the Refs their money you goddamn tightwads.


Apart from the money--which isn't minor except as a percentage, the benefits and pay differences total about $150,000 per official per year--the biggest road block concerns backup crews. The NFL wants to have (one? three? Seen both numbers) crew(s) on standby to replace any really badly performing groups, and the union wants absolutely no part of in-season accountability.
 
2012-09-16 03:16:41 AM
Remember... 24.5+5=30
 
2012-09-16 03:17:12 AM
I find it a bit funny that the NFL took the best refs and lumped them together to call the marquee games, yet those were among the worst officiated.
 
2012-09-16 03:21:09 AM

justtray: They did a good job. There, I said it.


No they didn't... Hell, in the Steelers/Broncos game last week, they wanted to give the Broncos the chance to accept or decline a farking false start or offsides(Can't remember which). This isn't a declinable penalty. Of course, the asshat coach of the Broncos got mad when the ref figured it out and told him that he couldn't actually decline the penalty, so he's a moron, too.
 
2012-09-16 03:24:18 AM

justtray: Must have been a lot of complaints of defensive offsides.

The challenge flag comment clearly came from the GB game. The funny part is that it was a auto-failed challenge even before he threw it, and if he could have, he would have taken it back. Lol


Also happened in the Steelers/Broncos game. Tomlin threw the flag(Which was a stupid call on his part), and while he DID get it off on time, nobody saw it until the play started, and then they allowed the challenge, which wiped out the play that had occurred. Even the guys calling the game pointed out that the refs had no idea what the fark they were doing at this point.
 
2012-09-16 03:25:32 AM

RedPhoenix122: FTFA: "Throw flags in a quiet area. Do not throw flags at players."

The fact that they have to be told not to throw the flag at the players...yeah...


Yeah, thats pretty damn funny. Surprised I didn't wake my wife up just now, I laughed so hard at that.
 
2012-09-16 03:34:57 AM
I'll say this: The litany of monumental farkups last week has made me appreciate the regular refs a lot more.
 
2012-09-16 03:44:52 AM
They should have a penalty flag give-away day at one of the games and everyone in attendance should throw them onto the field to help the scabs.

Oh, and ... Link
 
2012-09-16 03:46:58 AM

TheAlternator: NewportBarGuy: The replacements suck. Just pay the Refs their money you goddamn tightwads.

Apart from the money--which isn't minor except as a percentage, the benefits and pay differences total about $150,000 per official per year--the biggest road block concerns backup crews. The NFL wants to have (one? three? Seen both numbers) crew(s) on standby to replace any really badly performing groups, and the union wants absolutely no part of in-season accountability.


That's ironic.
 
2012-09-16 05:14:05 AM

Mikey1969: justtray: They did a good job. There, I said it.

No they didn't... Hell, in the Steelers/Broncos game last week, they wanted to give the Broncos the chance to accept or decline a farking false start or offsides(Can't remember which). This isn't a declinable penalty. Of course, the asshat coach of the Broncos got mad when the ref figured it out and told him that he couldn't actually decline the penalty, so he's a moron, too.


It was a false start. Offsides is a defensive penalty that can be declined.

I doubt John Fox didn't know that, though. I think he was probably yelling at the ref for letting the play run instead of whistling it dead like they should have.
 
mjg
2012-09-16 06:59:06 AM
Replacement Refs: "Thanks. Wait, wha? We have to work more than one week?"
 
2012-09-16 07:54:24 AM
I'll say this: The litany of monumental farkups last week has made me appreciate the regular refs a lot more

All part of the plan. The refs and the NFL are really holding out until people get pissed enough at the replacement refs that they won't biatch and moan so much when the regular refs come back. I give it about 6 weeks.

Now if you'll excuse me, my tinfoil hat needs adjusting

/Damn MLB spy satellite keeps making my fillings tingle
 
2012-09-16 08:01:57 AM
I bet a WR could get a running start like the Canadian league and not get flagged.
 
2012-09-16 09:41:21 AM

justtray: They did a good job. There, I said it.


Shut up, Cowherd.
 
2012-09-16 09:47:51 AM

Harv72b: RedPhoenix122: The fact that they have to be told not to throw the flag at the players...yeah...

Sadly, Orlando Brown is no longer around to punctuate that.


Eye see what you did there
 
2012-09-16 09:48:45 AM

justtray: They did a good job. There, I said it.


You obviously did not watch the Arizona Seattle game.
 
2012-09-16 09:54:32 AM

mariner314: justtray: They did a good job. There, I said it.

You obviously did not watch the Arizona Seattle game.


And definitely not the Bears/Packers game with the phantom 12 men penalty, bizzare (even after replay!) calling of a loose ball under a player an interception and so forth.
 
2012-09-16 10:10:45 AM
I think they are doing fine. I see things that could be called, but they aren't. It seems consistent.

okay with this .jpg.
 
2012-09-16 10:28:59 AM
For those of you that gamble, be aware that these replacement officials may not be very objective...
 
2012-09-16 11:03:47 AM

PowerSlacker: For those of you that gamble, be aware that these replacement officials may not be very objective...



I'm a Saints fan, but that's just nuts.  I don't care what level you're refereeing at, you should never, ever post who you're a fan of at any other level of Football.  I mean, I assume this dude is a Division III ref or something?  As such, isn't your goal in life to become a real NFL ref?  You gotta scrub your (online, at least) life of allegiances to any team.
 
Although it would have been a nice make-up for the terrible pass interference call last week.
 
2012-09-16 11:04:01 AM

Mikey1969: RedPhoenix122: FTFA: "Throw flags in a quiet area. Do not throw flags at players."

The fact that they have to be told not to throw the flag at the players...yeah...

Yeah, thats pretty damn funny. Surprised I didn't wake my wife up just now, I laughed so hard at that.



Mikey1969: "Bwahahah!"

Wifey: "Mff... Mikey, what the hell are you laughing at?"

Mikey: (quickly attempts to close browser) "Nothing, dear!"

Wifey: "Funny pornos again? What the hell is THIS?!? FARK.com? Mikey, you've caught the GHEY!"
 
2012-09-16 11:10:25 AM

PowerSlacker: For those of you that gamble, be aware that these replacement officials may not be very objective...


Yeah, because the regular referees don't watch football and don't have any favorite teams.

Cloistered, impartial, unaffected by the world around them.

They are kind of like the Supreme Court that way.
 
2012-09-16 11:18:57 AM

PowerSlacker: For those of you that gamble, be aware that these replacement officials may not be very objective...


Oh, and the NFL already told that ref to stay home this week.
 
2012-09-16 11:35:44 AM
Hopefully the real refs will be back in time to call interference the next time a Cowboy bearhugs a Giants wideout.
 
2012-09-16 11:59:42 AM
I heard that during the Eagles game they kept referring to the green team and the white team, can anyone confirm or deny?
 
2012-09-16 12:10:48 PM

Bunny Deville: I heard that during the Eagles game they kept referring to the green team and the white team, can anyone confirm or deny?


I am unable to confirm or deny that you heard that.
 
2012-09-16 12:21:49 PM

zamboni: Bunny Deville: I heard that during the Eagles game they kept referring to the green team and the white team, can anyone confirm or deny?

I am unable to confirm or deny that you heard that.


Only Jesus loves a smartass, son.
 
2012-09-16 04:46:55 PM

Bonanza Jellybean: I'll say this: The litany of monumental farkups last week has made me appreciate the regular refs a lot more.


The problem with that list is, if you read any NFL gameday thread, its pretty clear that there are plenty of officiating errors when the regular refs were being used, too.
 
2012-09-16 06:12:48 PM
Anyone else hear 'Give it Parkinson's" instead of 'Give it park assist' in that Dodge commercial?
 
2012-09-16 11:46:40 PM

gwowen: The problem with that list is, if you read any NFL gameday thread, its pretty clear that there are plenty of officiating errors when the regular refs were being used, too.


It's the level of the errors, not so much the frequency. There have been several cases of replacement refs calling (and enforcing) penalties which were literally impossible...things like illegal blocks in the back on the kicking team, illegal contact on targeted receivers, etc.

No ref is ever going to be able to make every single call with 100% accuracy, but what the coaches, players, and (to a point) the league want is consistency. The temps just don't offer that at this point, and likely won't at any point this season; what calls are (not) made depend on which crew you draw for your game, or even on which specific official is occupying the turf closest to where that action occurs. The regular refs may not have been perfect, but they were extraordinarily consistent.
 
2012-09-17 01:01:17 AM
The area of the field that these scabs are having the biggest effect on is the secondaries. DB's and CB's are raping receivers on almost every play. What would be illegal contact/PI in any normal scenario is going uncalled a LOT.

Hell, in the Giants/Bucs game, Cruz got CLEARLY held on a timing route and Eli threw a pick as a result. Things like that are, you know, kind of a big deal.
 
2012-09-17 09:38:26 AM

darch: What would be illegal contact/PI in any normal scenario is going uncalled a LOT.


Yet in Week 1 the refs called more DPIs than the league had in the previous two years combined. So please explain how that's the refs' fault?
 
2012-09-17 10:57:35 AM

IAmRight: Yet in Week 1 the refs called more DPIs than the league had in the previous two years combined. So please explain how that's the refs' fault?


In a couple games they went overboard with the DPIs. In most of them they did not. That's the core problem...if a DB (or WR) knows what's going to be called and what isn't, they can play accordingly. As it currently stands, one crew might call a DPI if the safety brushes a receiver's back while going for a pick, another might call illegal contact when the receiver is held from the LOS until the ball glances off his fingers, and still another might not call anything when the receiver is tackled a full second before the ball gets there.
 
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