brantgoose: And then there's immortality, the worst fate of all.Three dystopian versions:1) Jonathan Swift's Gulliver's Travels has the Skraelings, who live forever but grow progressively more mentally and physically feeble. They're a bunch of Alzeihemer's victims writ large: crabby, miserable and useless to themselves and others because instead of being repositories of wisdom and historical knowledge, they're just grouches.2) A Billion Grandmothers. In this short story, the ancestors of the people of a small planet grow progressively older and smaller but do not die. They are kept in the basement, on shelves, like dolls because as they grow older they become progressively less involved with the world. It urns out the planet is basically built up of tiny, tiny grandmothers, an infinite regress of smaller and older ancestors, like dust.3) The Post Mortal by Drew Magary. In this novel, immortality becomes possible (actually, just as stop to aging and physical decay) which means that 1) the economy collapses; 2) people realize that they haven't got enough savings to retire ... well, this is mostly depressing because it's so accurate. Also, there are "trolls" who make life miserable for the immortals by attacking them and carving the dates of their immortality treatment into their flesh. They kill one of several girlfriends of the main character and also engage in various acts of terrorism. There's even a new religion among the immortals. In short, it's not so much fun as you think to potentially live forever, even with immortal youth and health.
brantgoose: And then there's immortality, the worst fate of all.
Rik01: Depressing isn't it?As a kid, I grew up watching movies where Native Americans (Indians) cherished and cared for their elderly, considering their wisdom valuable. I also knew of the Eskimos, who allowed their elderly to walk out into the cold, wild environment to die as they chose. I knew of some Indian tribes which did the same. The elders themselves chose their time to die.My elders were raised taking care of their elders, often in the family home, which pretty often had been built by the elders in their youth. Siblings came and went, staying for weeks at a time to care for Mom and Dad, spelling each other without complaint.Sometimes, 3 generations would be on the family farm and the elders taken care of and respected. Grandkids and great-grandkids would cherish the company of the old folks, who were delighted to baby sit. Grandpa still had a say in things and so did grandma. The kids might consider some of the stuff bullshiat, but they listened respectfully anyhow even if they did stuff their own way later.I can't shoe a horse but my great-grandpa could. My grandparents lived on a farm with other family members during the Great Depression and made a lot of their own breads and pasteries from scratch. My Grandpa made his own root beer and sauerkraut. Grandma knew how to can vegetables and meats without poisoning everyone. They knew how to barter for goods.Sometime in the late 50's I learned about nursing homes, which were supposed to be great places for the elderly. By the 70's scandals and reports of abuse, neglect, theft and profiteering rocked the nursing home world, but people were too busy to care for their elders.Besides, yuppies were buying BMWs, screwing up the stock market, drinking over priced coffee and making their riches so who had time to fuss with old, worn out, half crazy farts?By the 80's major, new nursing homes appeared. Assisted living facilities, charging a high price to care for your folks. Other nursing homes started charging a ...
Frothy Panties: Dear god you even make me want to kill myself. Very, very depressing. But you do bring up a valid point on how American society does not take care of our elderly anymore and do not want to take on the burdens associated with it.
Gunther: TFA SPOILS THE UPCOMING SCI-FI MOVIE LOOPER. SERIOUSLY; FARK SUBBY AND IO9.COM AND WHOEVER GREENLIT THIS.
Mugato: Well I never learned to read but there is the Star Trek Voyager episode where one of the Q continuum desired to commit suicide because there was simply nothing left to do or see in the universe,
Memoryalpha: Gunther, are you new to fark? Haven't you noticed that upcoming movie plots are suddenly news items just before they come out and that fark postings about similar items just happen to spike at that point?
Jim_Callahan: You know what also spoils the plot of Looper? The 90-second theatrical trailer.
Gunther: The trailer sets out the basic concept, it doesn't explain why Bruce Willis has been sent back in time or why JGL has to kill his older self. Which that article spoils.
Jim_Callahan: Um, you can't derive the motivation from what's in the trailer?
tomWright: Well, there is always semi-retirement. You know, working part-time just to keep busy[www.shadowlocked.com image 300x200]
Rik01: Later, I'll decide what to do about me.
wildcardjack: I've always thought the Christian fear of death to be silly.
Rich Cream: dating Bender (like Lucy Liu),FOUL!Point of Order. It was Fry./and you call yourselves geeks//nobody at that web site caught it either.//not sure who I'm more ashamed of, all of you, or me
flaminio: I haven't seen that ep in a long time, but wasn't it the Lucy-Liu-bot that was dating Fry? The real Lucy Liu's head ended up with Bender.
JonZoidberg: You're wrong, watch the ep again. Fry dated a Liubot, Bender got the Liu in a jar.
RockofAges: Bhags: Once upon a time, I read a story in OMNI magazine where the protragonist was a filthy rich, hedonistic bastard. .........It was a very interesting read, but for the life of me, I can't remember the title or the author. I miss Omni magazineFat Farm, Orson Scott Card?Link
Bhags: RockofAges: Bhags: Once upon a time, I read a story in OMNI magazine where the protragonist was a filthy rich, hedonistic bastard. .........It was a very interesting read, but for the life of me, I can't remember the title or the author. I miss Omni magazineFat Farm, Orson Scott Card?LinkYES! Thats the one. Thanks :-)
JonZoidberg: Rich Cream: dating Bender (like Lucy Liu),FOUL!Point of Order. It was Fry./and you call yourselves geeks//nobody at that web site caught it either.//not sure who I'm more ashamed of, all of you, or meYou're wrong, watch the ep again. Fry dated a Liubot, Bender got the Liu in a jar.
AtlanticCoast63: /Too obscure?
Fano: I'm pleased that Zoidberg beat me to the punch.
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