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2012-09-14 10:54:43 PM  
People are hop crazy with the ales these days, and there are many aspects of beer that are being overlooked. I like an IPA as much as the next guy, but there is a lot more out there than how much hops you can squeeze into a beer. Like capsaicin, there is a law of diminishing returns with hops. At a certain point, it stops making sense.
 
2012-09-14 11:47:48 PM  

NowhereMon: People are hop crazy with the ales these days, and there are many aspects of beer that are being overlooked. I like an IPA as much as the next guy, but there is a lot more out there than how much hops you can squeeze into a beer. Like capsaicin, there is a law of diminishing returns with hops. At a certain point, it stops making sense.


Yeah, I'm way tired of hop bombs, too. I like the initial taste, but the finish is way too bitter. Unless, of course, you're making it to keep for a long time before it gets a clearance sale sticker

/nuance, people, NUANCE
//it builds character
 
2012-09-14 11:48:09 PM  
Way ahead of you, subby.

i798.photobucket.com
 
2012-09-14 11:49:49 PM  
farm6.staticflickr.com
 
2012-09-15 12:02:38 AM  

NowhereMon: People are hop crazy with the ales these days, and there are many aspects of beer that are being overlooked. I like an IPA as much as the next guy, but there is a lot more out there than how much hops you can squeeze into a beer. Like capsaicin, there is a law of diminishing returns with hops. At a certain point, it stops making sense.


gotta agree. I'm not a big fan of beers where I feel like I'm drinking a pine tree. Hops is a good accent, but I prefer my beers with more malt flavor than you'd find in an IPA.

Or a good stoudt. love a good stoudt.
 
2012-09-15 12:08:36 AM  
www.brainardbrewing.com

Hoppy with some grapefruit finishes. Perfect for a hot summer day.
 
2012-09-15 12:09:27 AM  
Too many IPA haters on Fark nowadays. Sure, it's like the pop music of beer snobbery, but I still love me a good IPA. Love the flavor, love the look, love that I don't have to piss every five minutes like I did in college drinking Natty Light.

I also happen to love pale ales and stouts and wheat beers of all shapes and colors. But an IPA? Oooh yeah.
 
2012-09-15 12:14:13 AM  
For many years, Harpoon IPA was my default beer; it's subtle and it's good.
 
2012-09-15 12:18:04 AM  

NowhereMon: Like capsaicin, there is a law of diminishing returns with hops.


I'm the jerk who says "You can't have enough hops!" I'm also the jerk who dares the chef to make the Étouffée too hot for me to eat. Yes, I'm a jerk.
 
2012-09-15 12:23:15 AM  
I cannot drink IPA's immediately after a breakfast of pork, eggs, and bagels. But I like them most other times.

I am mostly hooked on Sam Adams Boston Lager. I switched from Bud Light, tried out the various beers that were available and settled on Sam Adams. Sierra Nevada Pale Ale is a close second.
 
2012-09-15 12:29:40 AM  

jaylectricity: Sierra Nevada Pale Ale is a close second.


Sierra Nevada is a great choice for your standard grocery store 12-pack. I love Sam Adams variety packs. However, there are some variety packs which have 9 beers and 3 gross Bonfire ales which to me are undrinkable. No thanks if I want a beer that tastes like smoke I'll buy some liquid smoke and put it in my beer.
 
2012-09-15 12:30:24 AM  

jaylectricity: I cannot drink IPA's immediately after a breakfast of pork, eggs, and bagels. But I like them most other times.

I am mostly hooked on Sam Adams Boston Lager. I switched from Bud Light, tried out the various beers that were available and settled on Sam Adams. Sierra Nevada Pale Ale is a close second.


Yeah, so you are part of the problem, now what?
 
2012-09-15 12:31:55 AM  
Certain beer styles just taste better at different times of the year

Oh STFU.
 
2012-09-15 12:39:35 AM  

crypticsatellite: For many years, Harpoon IPA was my default beer; it's subtle and it's good.


god dammit I miss Harpoon IPA.
 
2012-09-15 12:39:56 AM  
All. Year. Long....

i48.tinypic.com
 
2012-09-15 12:43:14 AM  

jaylectricity: I cannot drink IPA's immediately after a breakfast of pork, eggs, and bagels. But I like them most other times.

I am mostly hooked on Sam Adams Boston Lager. I switched from Bud Light, tried out the various beers that were available and settled on Sam Adams. Sierra Nevada Pale Ale is a close second.


Sam Adams is good. Not too hoppy for me. I like their Cherry Wheat too.
 
2012-09-15 01:14:07 AM  
SOON.

Although I do love the Dogfish IPAs too. And some Flying Dog Raging Biatch.
 
2012-09-15 01:30:57 AM  
How about sour Belgian IPAs? These dudes also make a crazy tasty sour belgian imperial stout. If I weren't already drunk I'd drink some more. 

i.imgur.com
 
2012-09-15 01:37:25 AM  

NowhereMon: Yeah, so you are part of the problem, now what?


I was unaware there was a beer drinking problem. Someone please fill me in on this.

SilentStrider: I like their Cherry Wheat too.


Now you're just trolling.
 
2012-09-15 02:12:02 AM  

Introitus: crypticsatellite: For many years, Harpoon IPA was my default beer; it's subtle and it's good.

god dammit I miss Harpoon IPA.


Can't get it where you are? Or can't drink at all?
 
2012-09-15 02:23:28 AM  

jaylectricity: SilentStrider: I like their Cherry Wheat too.

Now you're just trolling.



Lulz.

But in all seriousness, that stuff tastes like medicine.

And now onto the beer porn:

i1218.photobucket.com
 
2012-09-15 04:03:15 AM  
I'm fairly new to drinking beer, having been a liquor drinker since I was legal to buy. But I've found that while I like a good craft stout or a hefe, I just can't do an IPA unless I'm already drunk. My problem with beer all those years was it was just too damn bitter. And an IPA is JUST bitter.

I've had a couple from a couple different breweries, and while I love most of their other beer I just couldn't do the IPA. My brother keeps telling me "You'll get there, though," but I'm doubtful on that.
 
2012-09-15 05:02:37 AM  
www.thatsnerdalicious.com
 
2012-09-15 05:07:11 AM  
When it comes to fall if you aren't drinking Oktoberfest or pumpkin beer you are a terrible human being.
 
2012-09-15 06:19:10 AM  

MayoSlather: When it comes to fall if you aren't drinking Oktoberfest or pumpkin beer you are a terrible human being.


Love the Oktoberfest, but never tried pumpkin beer. Decent?
 
2012-09-15 06:30:02 AM  
I was really into IPAs and loved hops for awhile after I turned 21, probably because they were the first beers wit ha flavor other than piss that I'd tasted. I still like IPAs sometimes, but it pisses me off how ridiculously popular they are. Even in shops with a wide selection of good beers, the majority are IPAs with as much hops as can be crammed into a bottle. Why can't we have a Doppelbock craze, or a Porter craze, or something without insane levels of hops? I mean sure, Belgian-style beers are popular now too, and I like them, but at a lot of stores my options are shiatty American lagers, over-hopped IPAs, overly sweet and alcoholic Belgian-style beers, and one or two each of any other variety. The burgeoning beer enthusiasm in the US is awesome, but its' too limited. Why is it so hard to find a Dunkelweiss in the US?
 
2012-09-15 06:32:13 AM  

NobleHam:

My apologies for my typos, I've had too much whiskey tonight. (One alcohol industry which is just right by me.)

 
2012-09-15 06:36:21 AM  

sariq: NowhereMon: Like capsaicin, there is a law of diminishing returns with hops.

I'm the jerk who says "You can't have enough hops!" I'm also the jerk who dares the chef to make the Étouffée too hot for me to eat. Yes, I'm a jerk.


Ditto to both, and there's still never enough hops or heat. Actually, I ate a burger with 'ghost peppers' on it once, that was hot enough.
 
2012-09-15 06:37:20 AM  

WhyteRaven74: [www.thatsnerdalicious.com image 456x700]


LoL :)
www.theperfectlyhappyman.com
I'll have one of these, or two or well more :)
 
2012-09-15 06:38:41 AM  

Shadowknight: I'm fairly new to drinking beer, having been a liquor drinker since I was legal to buy. But I've found that while I like a good craft stout or a hefe, I just can't do an IPA unless I'm already drunk. My problem with beer all those years was it was just too damn bitter. And an IPA is JUST bitter.


A good IPA will be more than just bitter but the hop race is used to disguise a poor beer. Take away the bitterness and most of the hop bombs have as much taste as Bud.

The hop race is tied into the ABV race. The taste has taken a back seat to macho posturing and marketing.

Me i like a fruity taste to my bitter so i tend to home in on Broadside by Adnams or Nelsons Revenge from Woodfordes.

/Tried Sam Adams and Serria Navada
//Ok as beers goes but nothing special
 
2012-09-15 06:44:20 AM  

Shadowknight: MayoSlather: When it comes to fall if you aren't drinking Oktoberfest or pumpkin beer you are a terrible human being.

Love the Oktoberfest, but never tried pumpkin beer. Decent?


Southern Tier Pumpking....so good.
 
2012-09-15 06:46:51 AM  

Shadowknight: MayoSlather: When it comes to fall if you aren't drinking Oktoberfest or pumpkin beer you are a terrible human being.

Love the Oktoberfest, but never tried pumpkin beer. Decent?


No. Pumpkin beers suck. Try one once a year in October, but otherwise avoid em. I usually don't even drink them in October anymore.
 
2012-09-15 06:54:02 AM  

NobleHam: Shadowknight: MayoSlather: When it comes to fall if you aren't drinking Oktoberfest or pumpkin beer you are a terrible human being.

Love the Oktoberfest, but never tried pumpkin beer. Decent?

No. Pumpkin beers suck. Try one once a year in October, but otherwise avoid em. I usually don't even drink them in October anymore.


Sure if you abhor rich delicious flavor and/or pumpkin pie then they suck.
 
2012-09-15 07:00:20 AM  
Just ship me a case of Dale's Pale Ale to London once a month or so, and we're cool
 
2012-09-15 07:02:03 AM  
Way ahead of you.
www.worldbeercollection.com
 
2012-09-15 07:12:47 AM  
I like one every now and again, but drinking more than one in a row would turn my face inside out.
 
2012-09-15 07:25:04 AM  
They picked Pale Ale *over* Founder's Centennial IPA? Link, I am disappoint.

I don't like IPAs all that often, but when I'm in the mood, Centennial it is.

Glenford: Way ahead of you.
[www.worldbeercollection.com image 225x325]


Man, I haven't seen Alexander Keith in ages. Is it even possible to buy it in the US?
 
2012-09-15 07:25:33 AM  
IPA's are terrible.

I don't understand the love. I love beer.

I don't like drinking something that tastes like it has fermented dandelion leaves and wormweed in it.

Ecch. Give me a good clear rich lager anyday, and you can have your lip-pursing echhh-ale.

Like Pinot Grigio, I know it's the "thing" to like right now, but I've never tasted an exceptional Pinot Grigio either.
 
2012-09-15 07:30:50 AM  

SilentStrider: NowhereMon: People are hop crazy with the ales these days, and there are many aspects of beer that are being overlooked. I like an IPA as much as the next guy, but there is a lot more out there than how much hops you can squeeze into a beer. Like capsaicin, there is a law of diminishing returns with hops. At a certain point, it stops making sense.

gotta agree. I'm not a big fan of beers where I feel like I'm drinking a pine tree. Hops is a good accent, but I prefer my beers with more malt flavor than you'd find in an IPA.

Or a good stoudt. love a good stoudt.


Stoudt's is a brewery, Stout is a beer style. I'll assume you are talking about the beer style.
 
2012-09-15 07:35:04 AM  
When my friends buy a New Belgium variety pack, I always get stuck with all the Rangers. Its not my favorite, but among my friends I'm the only one who can handle it.
 
2012-09-15 07:36:06 AM  
Thank you come again.
 
2012-09-15 07:37:10 AM  

Shadowknight: MayoSlather: When it comes to fall if you aren't drinking Oktoberfest or pumpkin beer you are a terrible human being.

Love the Oktoberfest, but never tried pumpkin beer. Decent?


Pumpkin beers go back to colonial times when they didn't really have the proper ingredients to brew regular beer, so they used sugar pumpkins instead. It more like a squash wine and tasted nothing like modern pumpkin pie beers.

Kind of a gimick if you ask me personaly.
But ill never begrudge anyones tastes, so please explore
 
2012-09-15 07:42:14 AM  

StreetlightInTheGhetto: They picked Pale Ale *over* Founder's Centennial IPA? Link, I am disappoint.

I don't like IPAs all that often, but when I'm in the mood, Centennial it is.

Glenford: Way ahead of you.
[www.worldbeercollection.com image 225x325]

Man, I haven't seen Alexander Keith in ages. Is it even possible to buy it in the US?


No idea, I'm in Ontario and it's everywhere.
 
2012-09-15 07:44:13 AM  

Shadowknight: MayoSlather: When it comes to fall if you aren't drinking Oktoberfest or pumpkin beer you are a terrible human being.

Love the Oktoberfest, but never tried pumpkin beer. Decent?


Pumpkin beer is a bit tricky as a consumer. There are exceptional pumpkin beers out there, but there are also a lot of terrible pumpkin beers. Often times a lesser distillery will take a mediocre/bad batch of beer, pump it full of artificial pumpkin flavor, stick some seasonal labels on it, and shove it out the door.
 
2012-09-15 07:45:27 AM  
I prefer a good German beer.

Does that make me a bad person?

/Spater or Weihenstephaner are my favorites
//Becks is not a good beer. Let alone a Good German beer
 
2012-09-15 07:47:17 AM  
Damnit.

Now all I want is a DFH 90 Minute, or a fresh IPA from one of my local brewpubs, but I'm on call all weekend and don't get to have any.

Thanks a lot, Fark.
 
2012-09-15 07:47:22 AM  
My favorite and I'm lucky enough to live in an area where it's available everywhere.

www.totalwine.com
 
2012-09-15 07:47:48 AM  
IPAs are bitter and nasty
 
2012-09-15 07:48:44 AM  

jaylectricity: NowhereMon: Yeah, so you are part of the problem, now what?

I was unaware there was a beer drinking problem. Someone please fill me in on this.

SilentStrider: I like their Cherry Wheat too.

Now you're just trolling.


Not really, no.

MarkEC: SilentStrider: NowhereMon: People are hop crazy with the ales these days, and there are many aspects of beer that are being overlooked. I like an IPA as much as the next guy, but there is a lot more out there than how much hops you can squeeze into a beer. Like capsaicin, there is a law of diminishing returns with hops. At a certain point, it stops making sense.

gotta agree. I'm not a big fan of beers where I feel like I'm drinking a pine tree. Hops is a good accent, but I prefer my beers with more malt flavor than you'd find in an IPA.

Or a good stoudt. love a good stoudt.

Stoudt's is a brewery, Stout is a beer style. I'll assume you are talking about the beer style.


Yes.
 
2012-09-15 07:49:42 AM  

NowhereMon: People are hop crazy with the ales these days, and there are many aspects of beer that are being overlooked. I like an IPA as much as the next guy, but there is a lot more out there than how much hops you can squeeze into a beer. Like capsaicin, there is a law of diminishing returns with hops. At a certain point, it stops making sense.


I agree. I love IPAs, but too many people are just stuck on over-hopped beers, and are missing out on some great Belgians and Stouts.
 
2012-09-15 07:54:13 AM  
At 7:54 am? Well, OK.
 
2012-09-15 07:57:07 AM  

e lo: Damnit.

Now all I want is a DFH 90 Minute, or a fresh IPA from one of my local brewpubs, but I'm on call all weekend and don't get to have any.

Thanks a lot, Fark.


Hey, I'm stuck in Austria and can't get anything besides pilsner and weißbier. Be thankful that your IPA drought will only last through the weekend. I'm farking sick of flavorless beer, and even Belgian beers are harder to come by here than in the states, despite the fact that I'm considerably closer and there are no import restrictions.
 
2012-09-15 07:57:26 AM  
I tend to prefer beers with earthy English hops over ones that have citrusy or piney American hops, so I tend to avoid American pale ales and IPAs. If I were to post that on BeerAdvocate, I'm certain somebody would say, "Don't worry, your palate will change and you'll eventually crave IPAs like me!" but they're just not my thing.

I've recently gained a lot of respect for English beers as they tend to be flavorful without being hop bombs or having high ABVs (like Fuller's London Pride checking in at 4.7% ABV). I have to credit Left Hand for their Sawtooth Ale. I drank it alongside a pair of English ESBs and it compared very well, but for the most part there are few American interpretations of English pale ales/bitters and ESBs. And it's nearly impossible to find a mild anywhere in the U.S.
 
2012-09-15 08:01:43 AM  
I had a couple of those Back in Blacks the other day, quite tasty. 

www.ohbeautifulbeer.com
 
2012-09-15 08:12:25 AM  

The_Sponge: jaylectricity: SilentStrider: I like their Cherry Wheat too.

Now you're just trolling.


Lulz.

But in all seriousness, that stuff tastes like medicine.

And now onto the beer porn:

[i1218.photobucket.com image 612x1023]


Here in alabama we aren't privileged enough to partake of this nectar.
Have to drive to Florida or Georgia to get it. Time for a road trip.
 
2012-09-15 08:19:31 AM  

MayoSlather: NobleHam: Shadowknight: MayoSlather: When it comes to fall if you aren't drinking Oktoberfest or pumpkin beer you are a terrible human being.

Love the Oktoberfest, but never tried pumpkin beer. Decent?

No. Pumpkin beers suck. Try one once a year in October, but otherwise avoid em. I usually don't even drink them in October anymore.

Sure if you abhor rich delicious flavor and/or pumpkin pie then they suck.


It's a foul beer for childish sensibilities.

Samuel Smith's Imperial Stout or Guinness, these are beers for men.
 
2012-09-15 08:20:15 AM  
i45.tinypic.com

Getting ready for the Vankleek Hill Oktoberfest...
 
2012-09-15 08:21:22 AM  
IPA's are and have always been horrible.
It's a beer loaded with preservatives (hops) that ruin the balance.
That's all.
 
2012-09-15 08:23:46 AM  
Where does actual Jamaican Red Stripe rate on the beer snobbery scale? Not the kind generally available in the states, but real imported Red Stripe?
 
2012-09-15 08:24:18 AM  

NowhereMon: People are hop crazy with the ales these days, and there are many aspects of beer that are being overlooked. I like an IPA as much as the next guy, but there is a lot more out there than how much hops you can squeeze into a beer. Like capsaicin, there is a law of diminishing returns with hops. At a certain point, it stops making sense.


I had the chance to try Port Brewing Company's Hop 15 (BA Review). This is not something to drink if you are going to drink anything else. It completely kills your taste buds. This is not a beer for novices. If you haven't developed your beer taste yet, this will cause you to never drink beer again. That being said, it was...interesting. If I were to drink it again, I'd need stronger food to pair it with.
 
2012-09-15 08:27:39 AM  

MayoSlather: When it comes to fall if you aren't drinking Oktoberfest or pumpkin beer you are a terrible human being.


This!
I tried Sam's Pumkin for the first time this year. It's Awesome w Pie, or Roll.
 
2012-09-15 08:27:59 AM  
IPA's ick, I stay on the dark side from the most part.Doppelbocks, stouts, and belgians.
 
2012-09-15 08:29:45 AM  

robohobo: Where does actual Jamaican Red Stripe rate on the beer snobbery scale? Not the kind generally available in the states, but real imported Red Stripe?


barely above Budweiser.
 
2012-09-15 08:34:27 AM  

jaybeezey:

Samuel Smith's Imperial Stout or Guinness, these are beers for men.


thefullpint.com

Would like a word...
 
2012-09-15 08:40:13 AM  

MayoSlather: When it comes to fall if you aren't drinking Oktoberfest or pumpkin beer you are a terrible human being.


Pumpkin beer is nasty. Most Oktoberfests are tasty.
 
2012-09-15 08:42:09 AM  

Scottybobotty: jaybeezey:

Samuel Smith's Imperial Stout or Guinness, these are beers for men.

[thefullpint.com image 316x626]

Would like a word...


Yummy!
 
2012-09-15 08:45:04 AM  

Evil Mackerel: Scottybobotty: jaybeezey:

Samuel Smith's Imperial Stout or Guinness, these are beers for men.

[thefullpint.com image 316x626]

Would like a word...

Yummy!


www.mutineermagazine.com

Also yummy!
 
2012-09-15 08:49:08 AM  

Evil Mackerel: IPA's ick, I stay on the dark side from the most part.Doppelbocks, stouts, and belgians.


That's where I'm at. I like Guinness well enough, but I only really started drinking beer when I went to Germany a few months back and had all of their wonderful brews. Recently we got back from Belgium and they had some sort of beer-fest going on, so it would have been rude to not partake.

But the IPAs, for me, was just seemingly bitter for bitter sake.

n any case, I'd be remiss if I didn't bring up a hometown favorite. If you ever get a chance to try anything from the Frankenmuth Brewing Company out of Frankenmuth, MI, do so. Not only do they make the only IPA I can handle, but their Irish Red ("Red Sky") is excellent and their Oktoberfest specialty is amazing.
 
2012-09-15 08:49:18 AM  
media.tumblr.com

/happy to have Three Floyds within an hour's drive
 
2012-09-15 08:50:05 AM  

Scottybobotty: jaybeezey:

Samuel Smith's Imperial Stout or Guinness, these are beers for men.



Would like a word...


I don't know what that is or how it tastes, but I would love to give it a shot.
 
2012-09-15 08:51:01 AM  
I think hop bitterness in beers is similar to spiciness in food to some degree. As I have gotten older and my palate has developed (or faded, who knows) I have been able to enjoy spicy, hot food more.

The same with beer. IPA's usually taste very refreshing to me, especially the West Coast styles that use more hops towards the end of the boil to produce more hop flavor and aroma than bitterness.

Hop Stoopid from Lagunitas is a sublime example.
 
2012-09-15 08:51:33 AM  

MarkEC: SilentStrider: NowhereMon: People are hop crazy with the ales these days, and there are many aspects of beer that are being overlooked. I like an IPA as much as the next guy, but there is a lot more out there than how much hops you can squeeze into a beer. Like capsaicin, there is a law of diminishing returns with hops. At a certain point, it stops making sense.

gotta agree. I'm not a big fan of beers where I feel like I'm drinking a pine tree. Hops is a good accent, but I prefer my beers with more malt flavor than you'd find in an IPA.

Or a good stoudt. love a good stoudt.

Stoudt's is a brewery, Stout is a beer style. I'll assume you are talking about the beer style.


I'm headed to stoudts today.

Only brewery I know where the baker's ram escapes and wanders the parking lot amidst old brewing vats. The damn thing looked like one of those rams from world of warcraft.

Then off to Victory on the return leg.
 
2012-09-15 08:55:01 AM  
www.stonebrew.com
 
2012-09-15 09:00:53 AM  

bk3k: When my friends buy a New Belgium variety pack, I always get stuck with all the Rangers. Its not my favorite, but among my friends I'm the only one who can handle it.


See, I think the Ranger is one of the few palatable New Belgium brews. Belgo is ok too though. Wish they still brewed Bier De Mars...
 
2012-09-15 09:01:07 AM  
For you New Englanders, this one isn't crazy hoppy.

365beers.files.wordpress.com
 
2012-09-15 09:05:38 AM  

SilentStrider: gotta agree. I'm not a big fan of beers where I feel like I'm drinking a pine tree. Hops is a good accent, but I prefer my beers with more malt flavor than you'd find in an IPA.


There are hops that impart citrus and floral notes with very little pine. I'm a fan of those IPAs but they are few and far between. When hop-bombs learn that there are other features to hops aside from bitterness we'll all be better off.
 
2012-09-15 09:07:23 AM  
All beers are delicious to someone just as all women are beautiful to someone. What a horrible world it would be if we all had to follow what the herd told us was best.

Personally I prefer malt and caramel to bitter so I try to stick with an RIS or porter if available. I also prefer to stick with either blondes, brunettes or redheads if available.
 
2012-09-15 09:07:24 AM  
If it is 9:07 in the morning in a beer thread then that must mean it's time for a Founders Breakfast Stout. MMMM-mmm.
 
2012-09-15 09:09:55 AM  

MayoSlather: When it comes to fall if you aren't drinking Oktoberfest or pumpkin beer you are a terrible human being.


Brewed my all grain pumpkin batch for the fall 2 weeks ago, and finishing up my Oktoberfest today. When I saw the article said IPAs were a fall beer I almost spit out my coffee.
 
2012-09-15 09:12:17 AM  
A couple of these will put you right.
2.bp.blogspot.com
/mmmmm.
//hot like...
 
2012-09-15 09:14:16 AM  

yoursafewordisharder: My favorite and I'm lucky enough to live in an area where it's available everywhere.

[www.totalwine.com image 250x350]


And you have Gulu-Gulu right down the street which doesn't hurt! (Even though it's a hipster paradise.)
 
2012-09-15 09:18:40 AM  

hamiltonjdavid: For you New Englanders, this one isn't crazy hoppy.

[365beers.files.wordpress.com image 450x653]


Those folks make some great beers all across the flavor spectrum. This one also isn't crazy hoppy

res.cloudinary.com 

Smuttonator doppelbock!
 
2012-09-15 09:19:13 AM  

mgary: Pumpkin beer is a bit tricky as a consumer. There are exceptional pumpkin beers out there, but there are also a lot of terrible pumpkin beers. Often times a lesser distillery will take a mediocre/bad batch of beer, pump it full of artificial pumpkin flavor, stick some seasonal labels on it, and shove it out the door.


When I made mine, I made it with this criticism in mind. Instead of pumpkin flavor I used 3.5 pounds of pureed pumpkin in the mash with the rest of the grain. I cooked it a little bit at 350 for a while to gelatinize the starches and caramelize some sugars before throwing it in. For the entire 6 gallon batch I only added .5 tsp each of cinnamon, ginger, cloves, nutmeg, and all spice. The result was a copperish malty ale with an aroma of the spices and sublte hints of pumpkin and spice. Not perfumy, not pumkin-flavored, but sublte hints and notes. Balance, people.
 
2012-09-15 09:21:06 AM  
IPA's, breakfast of champions!
 
2012-09-15 09:21:07 AM  
I too am on the anti hop bomb train.

I vastly prefer a good malt flavor due to the extreme bitterness of PAs and IPA.

I love good Reds (not American style reds which are also hoppy to High Hell now), Browns, Ambers, Stouts, Porters...

Others have said it, but the way to good flavor isn't hops for hops sake.
 
2012-09-15 09:21:43 AM  
I'm over IPAs...give me this any day.

untappd.s3.amazonaws.com
 
2012-09-15 09:27:34 AM  
encrypted-tbn3.google.com

Good IPA from a good, local brewery.
 
2012-09-15 09:28:20 AM  
Try a nice Maibock, Dead Guy by Rogue is amazing.
 
2012-09-15 09:29:54 AM  
9:29 AM? Well, if you say so.
 
2012-09-15 09:29:57 AM  
FTFA: There's truly a beer style for everyone. If you're one of those "I don't like beer" people, keep trying different styles. There's bound to be one that you'll enjoy.

I was one of those "I don't like beer" people.

I eventually found a nice Pale Ale that I like, after randomly getting some tallboys of various flavours. I still don't drink a lot of beer though...
 
2012-09-15 09:31:36 AM  

Quantumbunny: Others have said it, but the way to good flavor isn't hops for hops sake.


I agree to a point. I made an IPA using nothing but fruit forward hops. And I put them mostly in late to keep the IBUs low for the style, around 50-60. Adding them late in the boil adds flavor, NOT bitterness. So doing this with say, Citra and Amarillo hops and you get this dark gold ale with a bright aroma of peach, mango, passionfruit, crisp sweet malt flavor with only a hint of bitterness. Now, some would argue with me that even though the bitterness is well in range for an IPA, that it isn't an IPA because it isn't pushing the limits of bitterness. But they're wrong. Hops have three qualities to explore: aroma,, flavor and bitterness. I prefer to showcase the hops' aroma and flavor. Why? Because there are dozens of hop varieties out there, all with different flavor profiles, and if you boil them all for 60-90 minutes, they TASTE THE SAME. Bitter, and that's it. If you want to claim to be "showcasing the hops" then do something to showcase the real hop. It's a flower, for chrissakes. It's delicate. The same people who boil the hell out of these things and think they're doing the hop a service are probably the same people who buy expensive steaks and cook them well done.
 
2012-09-15 09:33:39 AM  
Kudos to the Farkers. This thread is barely beer-snobbish.

Typically, mention beer, coffee, spirits, or steak and the snobbery runs like a waterfall.

Kudos.
 
2012-09-15 09:34:15 AM  
I'll pass on the IPAs, though Red Hook's ain't awful
 
2012-09-15 09:35:21 AM  
Re: above

I'm not a connoisseur, but I'd recommend one of these.
www.treebeer.com
 
2012-09-15 09:38:09 AM  
Every day is the perfect day for you to drink whatever the fark you like, in whatever temperature the fark you like, in whatever glass/cup/mug/bottle the fark you like.
 
2012-09-15 09:38:43 AM  

Quantumbunny: I too am on the anti hop bomb train.

I vastly prefer a good malt flavor due to the extreme bitterness of PAs and IPA.

I love good Reds (not American style reds which are also hoppy to High Hell now), Browns, Ambers, Stouts, Porters...

Others have said it, but the way to good flavor isn't hops for hops sake.


Hops for hops sake is the market trend. The breweries make them because they sell.
Its very easy for a little start up to crank out a mediocre beer, hop the hell out of it, and give it a silly name (fanciful is what they say in the biz).
There are now over 2000 small and craft breweries out there, and they've all been influenced by the hop bombs ranking in the top tens on the rating guides.
So what do we get as consumers? A flood of meh. And im afraid that that will spur another consumer backlash against the field.
 
2012-09-15 09:38:50 AM  
Lagunitas has been mentioned up thread, if one has a chance to try "a little sumpin WILD" you may not be dissapointed. It's strong 8.8 iirc so there's that but it doesn't taste near as strong as it is. I've seen it only on tap but haven't even looked in beer stores.
 
2012-09-15 09:42:39 AM  

StreetlightInTheGhetto: Man, I haven't seen Alexander Keith in ages. Is it even possible to buy it in the US?


I found it at Walmart (of all places) in Indiana. So yes!
 
2012-09-15 09:42:53 AM  

WinoRhino: mgary: Pumpkin beer is a bit tricky as a consumer. There are exceptional pumpkin beers out there, but there are also a lot of terrible pumpkin beers. Often times a lesser distillery will take a mediocre/bad batch of beer, pump it full of artificial pumpkin flavor, stick some seasonal labels on it, and shove it out the door.

When I made mine, I made it with this criticism in mind. Instead of pumpkin flavor I used 3.5 pounds of pureed pumpkin in the mash with the rest of the grain. I cooked it a little bit at 350 for a while to gelatinize the starches and caramelize some sugars before throwing it in. For the entire 6 gallon batch I only added .5 tsp each of cinnamon, ginger, cloves, nutmeg, and all spice. The result was a copperish malty ale with an aroma of the spices and sublte hints of pumpkin and spice. Not perfumy, not pumkin-flavored, but sublte hints and notes. Balance, people.


I tip my hat to you, good sir. That is how a pumpkin ale should be made.
 
2012-09-15 09:49:41 AM  
Next week I am going to Cologne, then Munich, then Pilsen. I think they might stab me if I order an IPA. So I respectfully disagree with the author's thesis statement.
 
2012-09-15 09:50:34 AM  

Glenford: Way ahead of you.
[www.worldbeercollection.com image 225x325]


Don't kid yourself. Keith's "IPA" is actually a pale ale with a misleading label. And it's not a great example of either style.
 
2012-09-15 09:58:37 AM  

mgary: WinoRhino: mgary: Pumpkin beer is a bit tricky as a consumer. There are exceptional pumpkin beers out there, but there are also a lot of terrible pumpkin beers. Often times a lesser distillery will take a mediocre/bad batch of beer, pump it full of artificial pumpkin flavor, stick some seasonal labels on it, and shove it out the door.

When I made mine, I made it with this criticism in mind. Instead of pumpkin flavor I used 3.5 pounds of pureed pumpkin in the mash with the rest of the grain. I cooked it a little bit at 350 for a while to gelatinize the starches and caramelize some sugars before throwing it in. For the entire 6 gallon batch I only added .5 tsp each of cinnamon, ginger, cloves, nutmeg, and all spice. The result was a copperish malty ale with an aroma of the spices and sublte hints of pumpkin and spice. Not perfumy, not pumkin-flavored, but sublte hints and notes. Balance, people.

I tip my hat to you, good sir. That is how a pumpkin ale should be made.


Indeed. That's about how I make mine, as well, but I use a bit less pumpkin, and don't cook it first. That's a good idea, though, and I think I might have to try that for this year's batch.
 
2012-09-15 09:59:11 AM  
my go-to beer is sam adams latitude 48. tied for second would be harpoon and ranger.
they are all inferior to straight scotch or, as i am drinking this morning, a good irish whisky.
 
2012-09-15 09:59:54 AM  

e lo: mgary: WinoRhino: mgary: Pumpkin beer is a bit tricky as a consumer. There are exceptional pumpkin beers out there, but there are also a lot of terrible pumpkin beers. Often times a lesser distillery will take a mediocre/bad batch of beer, pump it full of artificial pumpkin flavor, stick some seasonal labels on it, and shove it out the door.

When I made mine, I made it with this criticism in mind. Instead of pumpkin flavor I used 3.5 pounds of pureed pumpkin in the mash with the rest of the grain. I cooked it a little bit at 350 for a while to gelatinize the starches and caramelize some sugars before throwing it in. For the entire 6 gallon batch I only added .5 tsp each of cinnamon, ginger, cloves, nutmeg, and all spice. The result was a copperish malty ale with an aroma of the spices and sublte hints of pumpkin and spice. Not perfumy, not pumkin-flavored, but sublte hints and notes. Balance, people.

I tip my hat to you, good sir. That is how a pumpkin ale should be made.

Indeed. That's about how I make mine, as well, but I use a bit less pumpkin, and don't cook it first. That's a good idea, though, and I think I might have to try that for this year's batch.


How long do you let it age? I made a pumpkin ale one year... after 3 weeks in bottles it was terrible... after 3 months it was sublime...
 
2012-09-15 10:00:36 AM  
t2.gstatic.com

Picked up a bottle last night. Have not opened yet, will try out tonight. Probably get another and another Old Guardian on Sunday.
 
2012-09-15 10:01:26 AM  
I've lately made these two beers a part of my staple. A pleasant hoppy, but not a smash-mouth hoppy.

farm8.staticflickr.com

blogs.metropulse.com
 
2012-09-15 10:07:39 AM  
Now is the time to be drinking India Pale Ale  BEER
I fixed it for ya.
 
2012-09-15 10:07:42 AM  
4.bp.blogspot.com
 
2012-09-15 10:14:48 AM  
So much win in this thread. Let's not forget the malty side of IPAs:

greatbrewers.com

s3.amazonaws.com
 
2012-09-15 10:16:34 AM  
I'll be out in LA (Torrance area) the next couple weeks and I'm hoping to try some local brews.

Any suggestions?
 
2012-09-15 10:18:10 AM  
www.thebarleyblog.com
 
2012-09-15 10:21:42 AM  
Bell's Two Hearted Ale is a well balanced IPA, nothing too extreme.

If you want extreme try Three Floyd's Alpha King, I'm surprised you don't see the hops floating around in that stuff.
 
2012-09-15 10:24:43 AM  
I'll stick with my 60 IBU amber-wheaten ale if'n y'all don't mind.

/balance can be a beautiful thing
 
2012-09-15 10:26:16 AM  
How timely. As someone who is brewing up a pumpkin beer today, I'm getting a kick out of a lot of these replies.

/except for that one note on the pumpkin beer taking 3 months in the bottle. I'm late to the party so fingers crossed that I can squeeze it in.
 
2012-09-15 10:32:11 AM  

wrigley418: How timely. As someone who is brewing up a pumpkin beer today, I'm getting a kick out of a lot of these replies.

/except for that one note on the pumpkin beer taking 3 months in the bottle. I'm late to the party so fingers crossed that I can squeeze it in.


I prefer my pumpkin ales with brown ale or porter base. The malt sweetens it a bit more naturally, less need for spices. Brewing up one next week!
 
2012-09-15 10:36:26 AM  

brewssuds: How long do you let it age? I made a pumpkin ale one year... after 3 weeks in bottles it was terrible... after 3 months it was sublime...


Good question. I will let you know soon. Although I will say after bottling 2.5 cases I had about 32 ounces left over so I threw it in a nalgene bottle and set it aside in the fridge. After it chilled a bit I sampled it completely fresh and uncarbonated and it was very good. So I don't think much aging will be required. I'll just let it carb up for 3 weeks or so and start drinking.
 
2012-09-15 10:39:58 AM  

Cheesehead_Dave: [www.thebarleyblog.com image 420x562]


Mkkeller has a great line of neutral malt base beers where they use only one hop for bitter, flavor, and aroma, so you can learn what each hop offers. My local beer guy has them all and I've been working through them. As a brewer it really helps to know what each hop will offer in each phase of the game.

3.bp.blogspot.com
 
2012-09-15 10:40:18 AM  
Yay for a beer snob thread.
 
2012-09-15 10:41:37 AM  

TwoHead: hamiltonjdavid: For you New Englanders, this one isn't crazy hoppy.

[365beers.files.wordpress.com image 450x653]

Those folks make some great beers all across the flavor spectrum. This one also isn't crazy hoppy

[res.cloudinary.com image 160x186] 

Smuttonator doppelbock!


MMMM.... Smuttonator. I like the Maibock* best myself.

But since we're in an IPA thread, I'll toss this one out to my fellow New Englanders.

www.beer-snobs.com
 
2012-09-15 10:42:54 AM  

Cerebral Knievel: Its very easy for a little start up to crank out a mediocre beer, hop the hell out of it, and give it a silly name (fanciful is what they say in the biz).


I often felt this was the way it was in the 1990s when we went through the last craft beer boom. Every new brewery that hit the market did so with an IPA as the first offering. And they weren't even hop bombs at the time-- just normal IPAs. I always figured the reason for this was that new breweries trying to capitalize on the craft beer trend could hide off-flavors and inconsistencies in their technique by over-hopping and calling it an IPA.
 
2012-09-15 10:44:36 AM  
midnightsunbrewing.com
 
2012-09-15 10:45:50 AM  

e lo: Indeed. That's about how I make mine, as well, but I use a bit less pumpkin, and don't cook it first. That's a good idea, though, and I think I might have to try that for this year's batch.


I toasted some pale malt in the oven, too. Adds a nice fall flavor. 1lb, 2-3 minutes at 350F is all it takes.
 
2012-09-15 10:45:58 AM  

Victorinox: A couple of these will put you right.
[2.bp.blogspot.com image 450x600]
/mmmmm.
//hot like...


Stoopid for a reason. This over hopped mega bitter jug of swine piss is what gives IPAs a bad name. Opt for a Southern Tier 2x.
 
2012-09-15 10:46:50 AM  

soopey: But since we're in an IPA thread, I'll toss this one out to my fellow New Englanders.


I named my cat Allagash. He's a 20+ pound Maine Coon.
 
2012-09-15 10:49:58 AM  

WinoRhino: soopey: But since we're in an IPA thread, I'll toss this one out to my fellow New Englanders.

I named my cat Allagash. He's a 20+ pound Maine Coon.


Awww.. He's a little one..
 
2012-09-15 10:53:25 AM  

soopey: Awww.. He's a little one..


Yeah, his dad was 30, though. Head like a cantaloupe. We converted a 30 gallon storage bin into his litter box.
 
2012-09-15 10:56:46 AM  

Glenford: Way ahead of you.


Keith's White is one of my favorites. I soo wish we could het it south of the border.

In a month or so, its gonna be time to switch to darker beers, but IPAs in the fall are hard to beat.

Getting ready to brew a pecan porter with bourbon soaked oak chips. Magical shiat.

I'm also about due to make my black IPA. I call it 'Black guy's black eye black IPA'.
 
2012-09-15 11:03:10 AM  

buwolverine: Bell's Two Hearted Ale is a well balanced IPA, nothing too extreme.

If you want extreme try Three Floyd's Alpha King, I'm surprised you don't see the hops floating around in that stuff.


I live around an hour from both breweries. Its a magical beer land around here. Throw in Goose Island plus all the small microbreweries.....plus homebrew...
 
2012-09-15 11:08:24 AM  
Tried this new hoppy wheat from Boulevard last wee. was pleasantly surprised! Wish I could find it in the stores
www.boulevard.com
 
2012-09-15 11:16:36 AM  
ITT, a bunch of hipsters trying to one up each other with beers no one has ever heard of or cares about.

www.beerfm.com
 
2012-09-15 11:25:02 AM  
I want a beer now.

Not a huge IPA fan. I don't generally like anything over 70-80 IBU's. I have had a couple of black IPA's, and they were tasty. I usually like to taste my beer, rather than have to eat something afterwards to get the bitterness out.

Some IPA's are more bitter than my mother-in-law when her sister visits my kids.
 
2012-09-15 11:28:32 AM  
Beer is proof god loves us and wants us to get laid.

-Edno

We have beer tastings regularly and there's this one guy who thinks the best beer is the over hoppy one. Hes not even trying.

/still in love with Abt 12 after all these years.

// bro owns a bar and brings home these $100 bottles of beer. I can hardly believe how good it is.
 
2012-09-15 11:32:27 AM  
I wouldn't have said IPAs were the thing for this time of year; maybe just straight pale ales for me. Anything but that goddamned pumpkin shiat on sale right now. or 'Harvest' beer.

"So that's your new brew... what the hell is it?"
"I tried a few different ingredients, using up some of that leftover dark malt. Nice color, but it isn't really any distinct style. So, dunno what it is. Saison?"
"Nahh, we have one of those already. Save it for early fall and call it Harvest."
 
2012-09-15 11:32:47 AM  
I figured it was hard cider time of year.... had some Angry Orchard hard cider, was delicious! I'll keep my eye out for some pales though.
 
2012-09-15 11:47:41 AM  
I'll play:

www.shortsbrewing.com

www.drinkingrealbeer.com

thinkemdrinkemandnod.files.wordpress.com

www.finleybeer.com
 
2012-09-15 11:48:01 AM  

e lo: Damnit.

Now all I want is a DFH 90 Minute, or a fresh IPA from one of my local brewpubs, but I'm on call all weekend and don't get to have any.

Thanks a lot, Fark.


Dogfish Head's 90-Minute IPA is my single favorite beer, and I've done a pretty extensive survey ;-)

I'm going to be in the DC area next week, so am looking forward to trying it on tap.
 
2012-09-15 11:53:30 AM  

MayoSlather: Shadowknight: MayoSlather: When it comes to fall if you aren't drinking Oktoberfest or pumpkin beer you are a terrible human being.

Love the Oktoberfest, but never tried pumpkin beer. Decent?

Southern Tier Pumpking....so good.


Had some of that last night. It's delicious but very rich (sweet). I also tried it with a little cinnamon added in. Great stuff.
 
2012-09-15 12:06:20 PM  
I'm falling off the IPA bandwagon with one key exception found in the article... Heady Topper. It's hands down the tastiest beer I've ever had. Yes it's a double IPA, and very hoppy, but the taste is out of this world and doesn't leave that bitter after taste doubles usually have. It's hard to come by outside of VT, but if found the Alchemist does it well. Side note, they also do a gluten free beer which I've tasted and was pleasantly surprised. I hate the GF movement, but have a friend with celiac who can finally enjoy a solid beer.
 
2012-09-15 12:09:34 PM  
justbeer.files.wordpress.com
 
2012-09-15 12:11:24 PM  

jaybeezey: Guinness, these are beers for men.


Tastes like old coffee and has less alcohol than a Miller Lite, this is what you think a man drinks?
 
2012-09-15 12:22:08 PM  
imageshack.us 
Brewed in Manitoba. Outstanding stuff.
 
2012-09-15 12:26:03 PM  
My favorite beer style is Oktoberfest, so I'm getting a kick...

IPAs don't agree w/ my stomach so I typically don't drink 'em. I can have ONE & that's about it. I had Sam Oktoberfest & a Brooklyn Oktoberfest last night & I must say that the Brooklyn had a nutty quality that I didn't like. So far I'm really a fan of Sam & Pyramids version.
 
2012-09-15 12:28:28 PM  

buwolverine: Bell's Two Hearted Ale is a well balanced IPA, nothing too extreme.

If you want extreme try Three Floyd's Alpha King, I'm surprised you don't see the hops floating around in that stuff.


One the other hand, if you try Three Floyd's Dreadnaught (their DIPA), you get an amazingly well-balanced beer.
 
2012-09-15 12:29:50 PM  

MagSeven: MayoSlather: Shadowknight: MayoSlather: When it comes to fall if you aren't drinking Oktoberfest or pumpkin beer you are a terrible human being.

Love the Oktoberfest, but never tried pumpkin beer. Decent?

Southern Tier Pumpking....so good.

Had some of that last night. It's delicious but very rich (sweet). I also tried it with a little cinnamon added in. Great stuff.


They just put a keg of it on at our local Mellow Mushroom. That stuff is great when fall finally shows up.

/having a Cascade Sang Noir for breakfast as we speak
//Go Timbers!
 
2012-09-15 12:31:33 PM  
i.imgur.com
 
2012-09-15 12:37:37 PM  
McEwan's scotch ale FTW!
 
2012-09-15 12:41:24 PM  

Paintbox: Here in alabama we aren't privileged enough to partake of this nectar.


Speaking of Alabama, here is State Rep. Alvin Holmes (D-umbass):

Link
 
2012-09-15 12:52:31 PM  

USP .45: ITT, a bunch of hipsters trying to one up each other with beers no one has ever heard of or cares about.


i36.photobucket.com
 
2012-09-15 01:00:02 PM  
Always been my go to:
beerbrewhaha.files.wordpress.com

But, I do not discriminate; and look forward to my Nectar every year. (On tap!)
www.beerblotter.com
 
2012-09-15 01:24:05 PM  
Y'all are pussies. Too much hops in your beer? Go drink a Coors Light, and leave the rest to us Hop Heads.

Seriously, give me the hoppiest shiat you have available. Oh, it's made with Supercritical Fluid Extracted Hop Oil? Yes please. You put in 3 lbs per barrel? Yep, I'll take that too. Double Arrogant Bastard reduction sauce on ice cream? I'd eat that shiat right up.

If I ever see a "man" tell a bartender that the beer he is served is "too hoppy", I'm going to slap that motherfarker.
 
2012-09-15 01:26:09 PM  
ftfa: The earliest American version is considered to be the Ballantine Pale Ale from the 30s but it was the Sierra Nevada Brewery that popularized the style as we know it today, in 1980.

No, Ballantine did a fine job promoting the style for me and every other poor white kid right through the '80's. We couldn't afford that artisanal West Coast brew from Sierra Nevada.
 
2012-09-15 01:29:12 PM  
staffblogs.etruth.com
 
2012-09-15 01:43:01 PM  
I like the IPAs even though I discovered them only a few years ago. I usually drink darker, heavier beers. I do like the heavy hops taste, though. That said, I love rye beers. Ipswich 5 Mile Rye Saison is my favorite.
 
2012-09-15 01:49:29 PM  

ssssmashing: McEwan's scotch ale FTW!


If you'd like to try an American Scotch Ale, Old Chub from Oskar Blues represents very well, and is pretty cheap for an 8%ABV beer.
 
2012-09-15 02:27:52 PM  

The Irresponsible Captain: Always been my go to:
[beerbrewhaha.files.wordpress.com image 180x179]

But, I do not discriminate; and look forward to my Nectar every year. (On tap!)
[www.beerblotter.com image 336x448]


I love me some Troegs. The bar down the street from me ALWAYS has multiple Troegs on tap. Hopback Amber is, in my opinion, one of the BEST balanced beers out there. And the nectar is spectacular... has a great malt backbone and some good fruit hop flavors. Great stuff.
 
2012-09-15 02:39:22 PM  
Its always the right time to drink any kind of beer.
 
2012-09-15 02:41:19 PM  

Ima4nic8or: Its always the right time to drink any kind of beer.


Except for a red beer, those are disgusting.
 
2012-09-15 02:42:59 PM  

Alphakronik: Y'all are pussies. Too much hops in your beer? Go drink a Coors Light, and leave the rest to us Hop Heads.

Seriously, give me the hoppiest shiat you have available. Oh, it's made with Supercritical Fluid Extracted Hop Oil? Yes please. You put in 3 lbs per barrel? Yep, I'll take that too. Double Arrogant Bastard reduction sauce on ice cream? I'd eat that shiat right up.

If I ever see a "man" tell a bartender that the beer he is served is "too hoppy", I'm going to slap that motherfarker.


You sound like the type that would eat a nuclear wing and gasp out "it's not hot" as blood and sweat dripped from your face.
 
2012-09-15 02:46:49 PM  

KungFuJunkie: [staffblogs.etruth.com image 360x480]


Love that shiat!
 
2012-09-15 03:05:35 PM  

Vangor: Picked up a bottle last night. Have not opened yet, will try out tonight. Probably get another and another Old Guardian on Sunday.


I picked up two bottles of 16th anniv, then promptly got drunk on something else and ended up 350 miles away from them with no way back. I am very sad.

I try to like IPAs (and I especially like Ruination and lat 48), but i cannot stand Ranger ale-- it tastes like a bad batch of fat tire pumped full of hops.
 
2012-09-15 03:06:48 PM  

bv2112: Next week I am going to Cologne, then Munich, then Pilsen. I think they might stab me if I order an IPA. So I respectfully disagree with the author's thesis statement.


I generally prefer English & Belgian styles to German & Czech, but I cannot wait to visit Munich. I wonder how many styles I'll be able to try?
 
2012-09-15 03:14:49 PM  

matthew_tray: My favorite beer style is Oktoberfest, so I'm getting a kick...

IPAs don't agree w/ my stomach so I typically don't drink 'em. I can have ONE & that's about it. I had Sam Oktoberfest & a Brooklyn Oktoberfest last night & I must say that the Brooklyn had a nutty quality that I didn't like. So far I'm really a fan of Sam & Pyramids version.


Really? I just bought he Brooklyn Octoberfest and I quite liked it. Of course, their worst beer is about a B+ for me. Amazing quality, even if they don't do the weird-but-magic thing that some breweries do.
 
2012-09-15 03:16:48 PM  

WinoRhino: The Irresponsible Captain: Always been my go to:
[beerbrewhaha.files.wordpress.com image 180x179]

But, I do not discriminate; and look forward to my Nectar every year. (On tap!)
[www.beerblotter.com image 336x448]

I love me some Troegs. The bar down the street from me ALWAYS has multiple Troegs on tap. Hopback Amber is, in my opinion, one of the BEST balanced beers out there. And the nectar is spectacular... has a great malt backbone and some good fruit hop flavors. Great stuff.


Mad. Farking. Elf. Oh, my.

/3 posts in a row?
 
2012-09-15 03:43:30 PM  
Sounds like the trick where whenever you go on vacation (or anything else you want to be memorable), you smell a new scent multiple times, like say a new perfume for each summer vacation. Then years down the road you can use that scent to summon the memory.
 
2012-09-15 03:43:42 PM  

Yotto: e lo: Damnit.

Now all I want is a DFH 90 Minute, or a fresh IPA from one of my local brewpubs, but I'm on call all weekend and don't get to have any.

Thanks a lot, Fark.

Dogfish Head's 90-Minute IPA is my single favorite beer, and I've done a pretty extensive survey ;-)

I'm going to be in the DC area next week, so am looking forward to trying it on tap.


After you get done with that, and while you are in the greater metro DC area, i.e., Northern Virginia,

look this one up:

img.photobucket.com

I will admit that I have a personal prejudice concerning it, I'm one of the brewers.

and if your travels in the DC region allow you to come down to Richmond, come on by the brewery, ask for PJ, and tell them that you are from Fark, and I'll show you around the brewery.

And just because... for the rest of you...

img.photobucket.com

The Imperial Harvest Ale, should be coming out in a few weeks. We got a bunch of local homebrewers bring in their homegrown Hop harvests, mostly cascades, and using them for aromatic, hop backing, and dry hopping. that tank has two cages of whole leaf wet hops in it.. something like 50 pounds worth it.
 
2012-09-15 03:56:13 PM  

wholedamnshow: buwolverine: Bell's Two Hearted Ale is a well balanced IPA, nothing too extreme.

If you want extreme try Three Floyd's Alpha King, I'm surprised you don't see the hops floating around in that stuff.

One the other hand, if you try Three Floyd's Dreadnaught (their DIPA), you get an amazingly well-balanced beer.


I think the Dreadnaught is too sweet. I far prefer Apocalypse Cow.

Zombie Dust
Alpha King
Broo Doo (seasonal wet hopped) very hard to find
Apocalypse Cow
Artic Panzer Wolf
Black Sun

My FFF favs in order
 
2012-09-15 03:58:16 PM  

KungFuJunkie:


Yes. Most definitely. Moon Man almost instantly became one of my favorites. I believe that was only intended as a seasonal brew, but was so popular they now make it year-round.
 
2012-09-15 04:26:32 PM  
I love Pale Ale, but hate Indian Pale Ale. call me crazy.
 
2012-09-15 04:31:46 PM  

SoxSweepAgain: Like Pinot Grigio, I know it's the "thing" to like right now, but I've never tasted an exceptional Pinot Grigio either.


Huh, I thought the in things now were cheap Malbec from Argentina and Shiraz from Australia, along with Pinot Noir. That's what I usually see taking up the most real estate in stores, anyway, and what I've heard is getting planted like crazy. Of course, any of those can actually be very good, but a lot of them just seem like a snazzy label on mediocre, very young product.
 
2012-09-15 04:49:27 PM  

MarkEC: ssssmashing: McEwan's scotch ale FTW!

If you'd like to try an American Scotch Ale, Old Chub from Oskar Blues represents very well, and is pretty cheap for an 8%ABV beer.


Agreed. I've picked up Old Chub before. It's a nice solo drinker and/or good with steak.

Anyone going to Stone- the Drink By 9.21.12 IPA is better than the 16th Ann IPA. I have spoken!
 
2012-09-15 04:53:21 PM  
Yotto:

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you'd like it if it was called Stinkypuss Iron Skateboard IPA from Shiattytown, Bluestate.
 
2012-09-15 05:01:00 PM  

foxyshadis: SoxSweepAgain: Like Pinot Grigio, I know it's the "thing" to like right now, but I've never tasted an exceptional Pinot Grigio either.

Huh, I thought the in things now were cheap Malbec from Argentina and Shiraz from Australia, along with Pinot Noir. That's what I usually see taking up the most real estate in stores, anyway, and what I've heard is getting planted like crazy. Of course, any of those can actually be very good, but a lot of them just seem like a snazzy label on mediocre, very young product.


you said it yourself, the prettier the label, the more likely for the contents to suck. one must also remember that if there is no year on the bottle, then the beverage is meant to be consumed as quickly as possible. while having a year designation tells you that it was a particularly good year for the grape production, so the wine should be correspondingly.. better.. beer.. wine, it's all an agriculteral product after all.

but of course, I'm pointing out Traditional things and nothing really required. so any of that could also be fudged for the sake of marketing.



its why none of the beer I help make have fanciful names or overly garrish decorations... just the logo, and the style. We just want the stuff to stand on its own as what it is supposed to be. and it's really too late to change gears at this point.

of course.. there is something to be said about fanciful names and garish decorations. makes the product more memorable to the end consumer.


its all how the marketing folks fark with yer head.
 
2012-09-15 05:22:29 PM  
Read this headline while taking a big swig of Magic Hat's H.IPA

/Always is the time to be drinking IPAs
 
2012-09-15 05:26:52 PM  
If you're a fan of pumpkin brews, You have got to try pumking. Had it for the first time last night and OMG, it's absolutely delicious.

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2012-09-15 05:30:51 PM  
I like a good IPA/APA but holy shiat this trend is played out. They're like the chardonnay of beer.
 
2012-09-15 06:25:43 PM  
Lol @ Keith's IPA.

It's not an IPA. It has far more in common with pale lagers than any pale ale I've ever had. Anyone who drinks Keith's for years and then decides to try a real IPA (or even an APA) will have their tastebuds scoured off by the hops.

And for the record, I used to drink Keith's pretty regularly in my younger days so I am not hating on the beer itself, just the fact that it tries to label itself as something it clearly isn't. It might technically be brewed with ale yeast, but it's not an IPA. Maybe a blonde ale (along the lines of Molson Ex) but even that is a stretch.

And for anyone who has never tried pumpkin beer - it's an acquired taste, but definitely worth at least one shot. The style is very polarizing - people who don't like them positively HATE them and will not hesitate to rant about it... but if you are a fan then October quickly becomes one of the best times of the beer year.

And yes, Southern Tier's Pumking is one of the best - it's a perfect dessert beer for Thanksgiving. As a Canadian living under the LCBO's dominion, I'm thankful that they bother to import the stuff every fall, because American craft beer in general is pretty scarce in this province, especially if you don't live in a major city. 

/Unibroue is harder to find in Ontario than in Michigan. Go government regulation!
 
2012-09-15 07:08:03 PM  

Whale Biologist: [imageshack.us image 200x267] 
Brewed in Manitoba. Outstanding stuff.


I prefered Saskatoon's Paddock Hill 606 myself, but the difference wasn't great. Both worthwhile western craft beers. Still not as good as my friends homebrewed IPA though. Whenever i get a house to _own_ and set up my brew, that lovely fruity-hoppy taste is going to be my first target.
 
2012-09-15 07:11:11 PM  
I'm a hop-head and I love a good IPA, but I'm a little burned out on the Imperial IPA trend. I don't need 10%+ ABV unless I'm drinking to forget :P
 
2012-09-15 07:38:40 PM  

Cerebral Knievel: of course.. there is something to be said about fanciful names and garish decorations. makes the product more memorable to the end consumer.


I think it's more a matter of following public taste, we've come to expect fancier graphics from newer companies to stand out, whereas the more traditional or upscale ones want to keep the traditional brand image, but either way it really says nothing about the product since it's so cheap to do now. All a matter of what and who you're trying to sell. It's too bad the obvious money and talent put into some labels just never makes it into the bottle.

Your branding probably says "This is a serious beer for serious beer drinkers" which is awesome.
 
2012-09-15 08:15:05 PM  

The_Sponge: Paintbox: Here in alabama we aren't privileged enough to partake of this nectar.

Speaking of Alabama, here is State Rep. Alvin Holmes (D-umbass):

Link


This is what's wrong with Alabama.
Who knows though. Maybe he is the primary reason we finally got our alcohol limit lifted.
I mean really, is this the spokesperson you want to be associated with?
I vote, I really do. But its like picking teams in grammar school football. All we have left to choose from is the fat kids.
 
2012-09-15 08:21:28 PM  

foxyshadis: Cerebral Knievel: of course.. there is something to be said about fanciful names and garish decorations. makes the product more memorable to the end consumer.

I think it's more a matter of following public taste, we've come to expect fancier graphics from newer companies to stand out, whereas the more traditional or upscale ones want to keep the traditional brand image, but either way it really says nothing about the product since it's so cheap to do now. All a matter of what and who you're trying to sell. It's too bad the obvious money and talent put into some labels just never makes it into the bottle.

Your branding probably says "This is a serious beer for serious beer drinkers" which is awesome.


thank you for saying so. I certainly appreciate the sentiment.

I must add, that I set up and took that pic up their earlier with my phone just for this thread.

overall.. what we WANT from our consumers is to be the go to beer from the isle.we want our flagships to be the beer that the average consumer takes home, shares with friends and well wisher at their gatherings, whatever it may be. we are not trying to sell to the snob because there is simply no pleasing them. We want the geeks who recognize a good honest beer, and we want the avearge beer drinker who wants something more special. in the cooler.

I personally have absolutely no problem with someone getting good and buzzed off the dailies we make and then sliding back to big commercial brand afterwards

but overall? we just want to be that beer you take home. all there is to it. nothing special, nothing you savor and hold onto... just your daily drinker.

its beer folks, stop over thinking this shiat and just enjoy your self.

The best beer in the world is the one in your hand and the only thing that trumps that is free beer. if it so happens that the beer in your hand is free beer? well, hell we are through the looking glass then aint we?. .


but seasonaly speaking? its fest beer time. Pale Ale, APA, and IPA is any time...

enjoy..

prost,

gamiltifitch

here's to... 9pm!
 
2012-09-15 10:13:21 PM  
I had my first ever Dogfish Head Punkin Ale today.
//that mofo was delicious!
///had a opa opa light at a truck pull too!
//that mofo was delicious toooo!!!!(-=
 
2012-09-15 10:16:57 PM  
an opa opa light!
 
2012-09-15 10:20:58 PM  

NewportBarGuy: All. Year. Long....

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Their IPA is very good, but the leviathan series is where it is at with Harpoon. Their Leviathan IPA is leagues better than the standard, and their Leviathan Red is just fantastic. (Huge American Red Ale fan).

Their Rye IPA they released this year is very good as well, highly recommend if you like their beers.

My favorite IPA

www.2beerguys.com

But Red ales are my favorite

www.samueladams.com

and

www.theperfectlyhappyman.com

If you enjoy beer at all you have to drink that Green Flash, it is just ridiculous the flavor in that beer. holy crap
 
2012-09-15 11:35:49 PM  

Whack-a-Mole: Lagunitas has been mentioned up thread, if one has a chance to try "a little sumpin WILD" you may not be dissapointed. It's strong 8.8 iirc so there's that but it doesn't taste near as strong as it is. I've seen it only on tap but haven't even looked in beer stores.


Not an IPA fan in general, but of the dozen or so I have tried, Lagunitas is really the only one that I liked. This thread is also the first place I have ever heard the phrase 'hop bomb', which turns out to be a perfect description of why I don't like most IPAs.

Bookmarking this thread for later reference.

Fark needs its own Beer of the Month Week club...
 
2012-09-16 06:37:13 AM  
IPAs are by far my least favorite kind of beer, I've never found one I can stand for more than a few sips. I just can't enjoy the herbally medicinal bitterness all those hops bring. Bitterness is supposed to taste BAD, to keep you away from poisonous substances. How people develop an affinity for stuff like that I'll never understand.


Skid Roe v. Wade Boggs: I'm over IPAs...give me this any day.

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Recently tried the Weihenstephaner Weizenbock, "Vitus", on tap at a German restaurant.
I'm not even a super beer lover in general, but holy crap, that stuff is absolutely delicious. Single best beer I've ever tried.
365beers.files.wordpress.com

/$3 for a pint bottle at BevMo. Yes please!
 
2012-09-16 09:18:36 AM  

Gawdzila: IPAs are by far my least favorite kind of beer, I've never found one I can stand for more than a few sips. I just can't enjoy the herbally medicinal bitterness all those hops bring. Bitterness is supposed to taste BAD, to keep you away from poisonous substances. How people develop an affinity for stuff like that I'll never understand.


Skid Roe v. Wade Boggs: I'm over IPAs...give me this any day.

[untappd.s3.amazonaws.com image 320x320]

Recently tried the Weihenstephaner Weizenbock, "Vitus", on tap at a German restaurant.
I'm not even a super beer lover in general, but holy crap, that stuff is absolutely delicious. Single best beer I've ever tried.


/$3 for a pint bottle at BevMo. Yes please!


Generally, men have less active taste buds than women, and of course as you get older you get less and less ability to taste as well. One aspect of taste least effected tends to be the bitter, thus many men having a strong affinity to IPAs.

I still have a strong sense of taste, so IPAs taste lime a salt lick to me.
 
2012-09-16 11:24:13 AM  

Popcorn Johnny: If you're a fan of pumpkin brews, You have got to try pumking. Had it for the first time last night and OMG, it's absolutely delicious.

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Indeed!
 
2012-09-16 04:38:00 PM  

Cerebral Knievel:
and if your travels in the DC region allow you to come down to Richmond, come on by the brewery, ask for PJ, and tell them that you are from Fark, and I'll show you around the brewery.


If I was heading from the South (or was traveling with other beer drinkers) I would! I'll see if I see some in the stores or bars around there and try one if I have the chance.
 
2012-09-16 10:43:20 PM  
OK, I know I wont get any responses since this was posted yesterday, but this is more for the Farkers that will do a beer search, find this thread, and ctrl+F for something.

Hop bombs suck, and wipe out your pallet in addition to what alcohol does to it. Drink two of them and you will ruin the nuances of other styles. If you are at a brewpub that has multiple styles of beer, order the IPA last.

With that said, for IPA's I enjoy: Deschutes Red Chair (seasonal), 21st Amendment Brew Free or Die and/or Back in Black, Sam Adams Latitude 48, and Odell Brewing IPA (AKA the dancing elephant). Odells is great because of the floral and complex nature of it, but it isn't a hop heavy selection. IPA's have turned into a fad recently, and practically every micro is stuffing as many hops into their recipes as possible. I will agree with Farkers upthread that a crazy amount of hops does not equal greatness. I think this comes from hipster idiots who think that saying they like the "hoppyness" of a beer, out loud, makes them a beer nerd because being a nerd is also trendy now (apparently). No. You are a beer nerd when you can identify specific hops from taste and aroma, or have a rather unhealthy knowledge of beer recipes and the associated chemistry because you were able to successfully clone a beer from a major manufacturer by homebrewing the shiat out of it an experimenting, not just being given a recipe. Me? I fall somewhere in the middle, because I still homebrew solely off the recipes of others, but I'm approaching anal when tasting beer.

If you are in an area that distributes, or on the island itself, Maui Brewing has a fantastic selection of IPAs. If you're on the island and love beer, visit the brewpub. They have something like 20+ styles available, and many are only found there.
 
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