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2012-09-14 10:12:00 PM
Oh Jesus....

Alex Jones is gonna cream his pants for every hour of his shiatty radio show next week claiming that this was a *WINK*WINK* that 9/11 was an inside job and Paul would have never had it happen.

farking A, Paul, if I knew you werent an idiot I would say that you would be catering to these voters.
 
2012-09-14 10:23:46 PM
What a retarded thing to say. Are Republicans ever going to stop politicizing farking 9/11?

And he's 77? I mean I knew he was old but what retard would vote for a 77 year old president? Did we learn nothing from Reagan?
 
2012-09-14 10:26:24 PM
Wait ... so Ron Paul thinks that if he was president in 2001, the prior 30 years of foreign affairs would never have occurred? Isn't his whole argument that every state action since the 70s precipitated it?
 
2012-09-14 10:28:47 PM
It's so lonely being Ron Paul.
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2012-09-14 10:30:19 PM
Someone need a beej. Desperately.
 
2012-09-14 10:36:23 PM

Mugato: What a retarded thing to say. Are Republicans ever going to stop politicizing farking 9/11?


When a Democrat is in power: "It's the Democrats who's politicizing it!"
When they're in power: "Why aren't the Democrats more respectful towards the victims of 9/11?"
 
2012-09-14 10:37:29 PM
th107.photobucket.com
 
2012-09-14 10:40:00 PM
 
2012-09-14 10:49:08 PM
He's probably right in the sense that American and United Airlines would have both been in Chapter 7 bankruptcy. Therefore, no terrorists could have hijacked their planes.
 
2012-09-14 10:51:45 PM
You expect Ron Paul to understand the pluperfect subjunctive? He's still trying to learn how to spell "Ron."
 
2012-09-14 10:57:07 PM
+100000 subby
 
2012-09-14 11:20:27 PM

2wolves: Someone need a beej. Desperately.


Don't we all!?
 
2012-09-14 11:21:55 PM

Triumph: Al Qaeda flag raised today over U.S. Embassy in Tunisia
(Black Standard)

CIA smuggles Stinger missiles to Al Qaeda fighters in Syria

But why would you "politicize 9/11?"


Your second link doesn't mention alqaeda.
 
2012-09-14 11:23:51 PM
How would going back to the gold standard have stopped 9/11?
 
2012-09-14 11:24:40 PM
RON PAUL

Is a write-in candidate. Get over it.
 
2012-09-14 11:25:38 PM

Smackledorfer: Your second link doesn't mention alqaeda.


Many of the rebels pouring into Syria are mercenaries flying the Al Qaeda flag off the backs of their trucks.
 
2012-09-14 11:27:13 PM
He has a point. Anyone other than Dubya or Mitt could say the same thing, though.
 
2012-09-14 11:28:05 PM
August 27, 2012 12:15 PM
 
2012-09-14 11:28:45 PM
Actually, I think Ron Paul is the one guy who might be able to make that claim.

Unfortunately, a lot of different horrible shiat would have happened instead.
 
2012-09-14 11:29:16 PM

Mugato: What a retarded thing to say. Are Republicans ever going to stop politicizing farking 9/11?

And he's 77? I mean I knew he was old but what retard would vote for a 77 year old president? Did we learn nothing from Reagan?


That's why he's going for the crowd that was born after 1989...I mean, only they would believe that a 77-year-old lifelong Republican would be any different from the crap that's in there now...

...wait a minute, he's part of the crap that's in there now!
 
2012-09-14 11:29:20 PM

Satanic_Hamster: August 27, 2012 12:15 PM


Paulnet becomes aware
 
2012-09-14 11:29:24 PM

Triumph: Smackledorfer: Your second link doesn't mention alqaeda.

Many of the rebels pouring into Syria are mercenaries flying the Al Qaeda flag off the backs of their trucks.


[citation needed]
 
2012-09-14 11:30:28 PM

fusillade762: How would going back to the gold standard have stopped 9/11?


Can you imagine trying to buy airline tickets with 40 pieces of kuggerrands?
 
2012-09-14 11:31:06 PM

whidbey: RON PAUL

Is a write-in candidate. Get over it.


No, Ron Paul is a write-in candidate (not a type-in).
 
2012-09-14 11:33:58 PM

Satanic_Hamster: August 27, 2012 12:15 PM

 
2012-09-14 11:34:56 PM

propasaurus: Satanic_Hamster: August 27, 2012 12:15 PM


Not even a month has passed since it was posted. Chill, dude
 
2012-09-14 11:35:19 PM

cameroncrazy1984: Triumph: Smackledorfer: Your second link doesn't mention alqaeda.

Many of the rebels pouring into Syria are mercenaries flying the Al Qaeda flag off the backs of their trucks.

[citation needed]


LINK LINK [Let me Google that for you]
 
2012-09-14 11:36:03 PM
If he were President... when? 2001? 1992-2001? 1990? 1967? Maybe in 1948, or 1918? I'm just curious which of the many events leading up to 9/11 he thinks he could have prevented.
 
2012-09-14 11:36:57 PM

cman: propasaurus: Satanic_Hamster: August 27, 2012 12:15 PM

Not even a month has passed since it was posted. Chill, dude


Right, let's instead get back to mocking this senile old buffoon.
And Ron Paul.
 
2012-09-14 11:37:23 PM

Triumph: cameroncrazy1984: Triumph: Smackledorfer: Your second link doesn't mention alqaeda.

Many of the rebels pouring into Syria are mercenaries flying the Al Qaeda flag off the backs of their trucks.

[citation needed]

LINK LINK [Let me Google that for you]


Neither of those mentions anything like your original claim:

"Many of the rebels pouring into Syria are mercenaries flying the Al Qaeda flag off the backs of their trucks."
 
2012-09-14 11:38:52 PM
To be fair, he is the only [kinda] prominent politician in the US who publicly says we should cut off aid to Israel.

Which would greatly reduce animosity towards the US. Which might prevent 9/11 type attacks.

/ Not a Ron Paul fan
 
2012-09-14 11:40:52 PM

Triumph: cameroncrazy1984: Triumph: Smackledorfer: Your second link doesn't mention alqaeda.

Many of the rebels pouring into Syria are mercenaries flying the Al Qaeda flag off the backs of their trucks.

[citation needed]

LINK LINK [Let me Google that for you]


Neither of those links mentions flags. Also, Al-Qaeda doesn't have a flag. A black shahada flag is not necessarily Al-Qaeda's.
 
2012-09-14 11:42:15 PM
The planes would have been stopped by his Wall of Derp.
 
2012-09-14 11:44:11 PM

cameroncrazy1984: Neither of those mentions anything like your original claim:

"Many of the rebels pouring into Syria are mercenaries flying the Al Qaeda flag off the backs of their trucks."


I can't link to something I saw reported on TV, but you would think that my link stating "Director of National Intelligence James Clapper testifies before the Senate Armed Services Committee that Al-Qaeda's branch in Iraq likely carried out recent suicide bombings in Syria and has infiltrated opposition forces fighting President Bashar al-Assad's regime" would satisfy you. Troll.
 
2012-09-14 11:46:50 PM

Triumph: cameroncrazy1984: Neither of those mentions anything like your original claim:

"Many of the rebels pouring into Syria are mercenaries flying the Al Qaeda flag off the backs of their trucks."

I can't link to something I saw reported on TV, but you would think that my link stating "Director of National Intelligence James Clapper testifies before the Senate Armed Services Committee that Al-Qaeda's branch in Iraq likely carried out recent suicide bombings in Syria and has infiltrated opposition forces fighting President Bashar al-Assad's regime" would satisfy you. Troll.


Why on Earth would it? You made an assertion that "MANY" of the rebels were flying non-existent Al-Qaeda flags. This implies a large number, not a few members infiltrating the broader opposition or carrying out a couple of recent bombings. Your implication was that the opposition in Syria IS Al-Qaeda. Troll.
 
2012-09-14 11:52:53 PM

NobleHam: Why on Earth would it? You made an assertion that "MANY" of the rebels were flying non-existent Al-Qaeda flags. This implies a large number, not a few members infiltrating the broader opposition or carrying out a couple of recent bombings. Your implication was that the opposition in Syria IS Al-Qaeda. Troll.


My "implication" is that the CIA smuggling Stingers into Syria puts them potentially in reach of Al Qaeda, which has been established to have "infiltrated" the rebels there. And if Bush had been in office and an Ambassador had been killed and the Black Standard had been raised over a U.S. Embassy, that it wouldn't be a minor deal.
 
2012-09-14 11:54:32 PM

Triumph: cameroncrazy1984: Neither of those mentions anything like your original claim:

"Many of the rebels pouring into Syria are mercenaries flying the Al Qaeda flag off the backs of their trucks."

I can't link to something I saw reported on TV, but you would think that my link stating "Director of National Intelligence James Clapper testifies before the Senate Armed Services Committee that Al-Qaeda's branch in Iraq likely carried out recent suicide bombings in Syria and has infiltrated opposition forces fighting President Bashar al-Assad's regime" would satisfy you. Troll.


Why on Earth would you believe that a separate claim that a single attack MAY have been "Al-Qaeda-like" satisfies your claim that "Many of the rebels pouring into Syria are mercenaries flying the Al Qaeda flag off the backs of their trucks"?
 
2012-09-14 11:56:14 PM

Triumph: And if Bush had been in office and an Ambassador had been killed and the Black Standard had been raised over a U.S. Embassy, that it wouldn't be a minor deal.


Like when the Chinese knocked down and captured a US surveillance plane and crew and Bush apologized?

Or when planeloads of mostly Saudi terrorists took down the WTC and Bush invaded Iraq?

Yeah, he sure was the tough-guy effective Preznit, I tell you what.
 
2012-09-15 12:00:10 AM
He's right. 100% right.

You could have made a schizophrenic homeless guy president in 2001, and he would've been like "DUDE, this daily briefing says this guy gonna run a plane into a building! Let's stop him!"

ANYONE could've stopped 9/11. George W. LET it happen. Why? Well... guess who got elected because you "don't change a horse in midstream."
 
2012-09-15 12:00:13 AM

Triumph: NobleHam: Why on Earth would it? You made an assertion that "MANY" of the rebels were flying non-existent Al-Qaeda flags. This implies a large number, not a few members infiltrating the broader opposition or carrying out a couple of recent bombings. Your implication was that the opposition in Syria IS Al-Qaeda. Troll.

My "implication" is that the CIA smuggling Stingers into Syria puts them potentially in reach of Al Qaeda, which has been established to have "infiltrated" the rebels there. And if Bush had been in office and an Ambassador had been killed and the Black Standard had been raised over a U.S. Embassy, that it wouldn't be a minor deal.


Well, for one thing those two things are completely unrelated. For another, Al-Qaeda already has stingers. If they're in Syria, it's not to collect weapons. Lastly, nice strawman.
 
2012-09-15 12:00:26 AM

COMALite J: whidbey: RON PAUL

Is a write-in candidate. Get over it.

No, Ron Paul is a write-in candidate (not a type-in).


So no "type early, type often?"
 
2012-09-15 12:01:33 AM
Well if that's the case, he probably should have run for President in 1992, 1996, or 2000 so he could have had the chance to do something about it.
 
2012-09-15 12:02:39 AM

Mugato: What a retarded thing to say. Are Republicans ever going to stop politicizing farking 9/11?

And he's 77? I mean I knew he was old but what retard would vote for a 77 year old president? Did we learn nothing from Reagan?


Pandering to the 77-year old retard market, I guess...
 
2012-09-15 12:02:47 AM

jaytkay: Like when the Chinese knocked down and captured a US surveillance plane and crew and Bush apologized?

Or when planeloads of mostly Saudi terrorists took down the WTC and Bush invaded Iraq?

Yeah, he sure was the tough-guy effective Preznit, I tell you what.


I'm not defending Bush, just noticing that Obama's foreign policy choices are no better. His "We killed OBL" victory lap doesn't really hold up when a Black Standard gets raised over a U.S. Embassy. It isn't any better than Bush's stupid Mission Accomplished photo op.
 
2012-09-15 12:03:42 AM

halB: He's right. 100% right.

You could have made a schizophrenic homeless guy president in 2001, and he would've been like "DUDE, this daily briefing says this guy gonna run a plane into a building! Let's stop him!"

ANYONE could've stopped 9/11. George W. LET it happen. Why? Well... guess who got elected because you "don't change a horse in midstream."


Hm, here I thought the 2000 election was between two first-time nominees. Guess I was wrong...
 
2012-09-15 12:04:41 AM

fusillade762: How would going back to the gold standard have stopped 9/11?

The Panic of 1907, also known as the 1907 Bankers' Panic, was a financial crisis that occurred in the United States when the New York Stock Exchange fell almost 50% from its peak the previous year. Panic occurred, as this was during a time of economic recession, and there were numerous runs on banks and trust companies. The 1907 panic eventually spread throughout the nation when many state and local banks and businesses entered bankruptcy. Primary causes of the run include a retraction of market liquidity by a number of New York City banks and a loss of confidence among depositors, exacerbated by unregulated side bets at bucket shops.[1] The panic was triggered by the failed attempt in October 1907 to corner the market on stock of the United Copper Company. When this bid failed, banks that had lent money to the cornering scheme suffered runs that later spread to affiliated banks and trusts, leading a week later to the downfall of the Knickerbocker Trust Company-New York City's third-largest trust. The collapse of the Knickerbocker spread fear throughout the city's trusts as regional banks withdrew reserves from New York City banks. Panic extended across the nation as vast numbers of people withdrew deposits from their regional banks.

The panic might have deepened if not for the intervention of financier J. P. Morgan[2], who pledged large sums of his own money, and convinced other New York bankers to do the same, to shore up the banking system. At the time, the United States did not have a central bank to inject liquidity back into the market. By November the financial contagion had largely ended, yet a further crisis emerged when a large brokerage firm borrowed heavily using the stock of Tennessee Coal, Iron and Railroad Company (TC&I) as collateral. Collapse of TC&I's stock price was averted by an emergency takeover by Morgan's U.S. Steel Corporation-a move approved by anti-monopolist president Theodore Roosevelt. The following year, Senator Nelson W. Aldrich, father-in-law of John D. Rockefeller, Jr., established and chaired a commission to investigate the crisis and propose future solutions, leading to the creation of the Federal Reserve System[3][4].


Good thing we had the gold standard and no Federal Reserve back then.
 
2012-09-15 12:05:27 AM

NobleHam: For another, Al-Qaeda already has stingers.


They do? Then why aren't they shooting down planes?
 
2012-09-15 12:05:45 AM

Triumph: I'm not defending Bush, just noticing that Obama's foreign policy choices are no better. His "We killed OBL" victory lap doesn't really hold up when a Black Standard gets raised over a U.S. Embassy. It isn't any better than Bush's stupid Mission Accomplished photo op.


Is Osama bin Laden still dead? Yes? Did President Obama declare terrorism over when bin Laden died? No? Ok then.
 
2012-09-15 12:06:48 AM

Gyrfalcon: halB: He's right. 100% right.

You could have made a schizophrenic homeless guy president in 2001, and he would've been like "DUDE, this daily briefing says this guy gonna run a plane into a building! Let's stop him!"

ANYONE could've stopped 9/11. George W. LET it happen. Why? Well... guess who got elected because you "don't change a horse in midstream."

Hm, here I thought the 2000 election was between two first-time nominees. Guess I was wrong...


I'm sorry, did I really have to say "re-elected" when I'm already talking about "don't change a horse in midstream?"

Context clues - they're your friend. Don't be afraid to use them.
 
2012-09-15 12:10:12 AM

Triumph: NobleHam: For another, Al-Qaeda already has stingers.

They do? Then why aren't they shooting down planes?


Because "terrorism" as we've been taught of, doesn't actually exist. Look up the Bali bombings. What stops "terrorists" from doing this every single night in America? Nothing.

"It is obvious that in this time we must give up some of our freedoms so we can stop this scourge of terrorism once and for all."

- Stalin. Paraphrased.

Terrorism has now been used for 100 years to justify draconian and dictatorial measures.

We have always been at war with EastAsia.
 
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