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2012-09-14 09:16:48 PM

Tellingthem: I actually wonder what Rushdie has to say on this...


According to the Guardian, Rushdie was balls-deep in a supermodel as is customary for his Friday nights, and was unavailable for comment.
 
2012-09-14 09:17:02 PM
For those who advocate Maximum Trolling Overdrive, I will (but shouldn't have to) point out the obvious.

Insulting Muhammad gives the imams more ammo. It feeds the culture war. It creates an 'Us versus Them' dynamic. And it feeds on itself, which one can see simply from the fact that 'troll them some more' is the first reaction people are having to this.

That kind of mindset is what gives us things like the Hundred Year's War.
 
2012-09-14 09:17:34 PM

HotIgneous Intruder: Agent Nick Fury: Much as some of these New York City liberals might disagree, these rights in America are inalienable and bestowed upon us by what them same liberals refer to as the 'ghost in the sky'.

Now of course, most of these here liberals will argue that there ain't no such thing as this here 'God' person - until of course they demand these here rights for people who ain't even American.

Kinda makes you scratch your head, don't it?

Jefferson called then natural human rights without dragging invisible imaginary sky creatures into it.
Simply by being a human being, we have inalienable rights that no other man can abridge or take.


You mean he disagreed on the term 'Creator' that may be so but not for many of the signers.

But I would also say that the main traction of the anti-slavery movement was based on the fact the word Creator meant God.
 
2012-09-14 09:18:08 PM

TheDumbBlonde: cookiefleck: TheDumbBlonde: I have a simple idea:

Nothing said by any man or group can justify violence or death.

Yeah, this too..

That, right there, is an example that sane people can agree on an idea, after taking a deep breath and refusing to assign blame for madness.


It's just irritating that as a human species, we haven't evolved beyond "this person said something I don't like? BURN THE WITCH!"

/really people!
//stop being assholes to each other!
 
2012-09-14 09:20:04 PM

omnibus_necanda_sunt: Insulting Muhammad gives the imams more ammo. It feeds the culture war. It creates an 'Us versus Them' dynamic. And it feeds on itself, which one can see simply from the fact that 'troll them some more' is the first reaction people are having to this.


So be quiet and polite and maybe the mean Moose Limbs will go away. Right?
Tell that to the tens of millions of people the Muslims killed or enslaved or made to pay jizya since the year 603.
 
2012-09-14 09:20:27 PM

LazerFish: Christians wondering how a cartoon could possibly piss muslims off so bad should remember that they were not long ago on a crusade against a chicken joint


I know man. Just look at all of those dead people chickens that it caused...

/and it wasn't the Christians that were upset, it was the left wingers who were causing all of the kerfuffle
//Mmmm left (and right) chicken wings
 
2012-09-14 09:20:49 PM

cookiefleck: TheDumbBlonde: cookiefleck: TheDumbBlonde: I have a simple idea:

Nothing said by any man or group can justify violence or death.

Yeah, this too..

That, right there, is an example that sane people can agree on an idea, after taking a deep breath and refusing to assign blame for madness.

It's just irritating that as a human species, we haven't evolved beyond "this person said something I don't like? BURN THE WITCH!"

/really people!
//stop being assholes to each other!


I think I'm going to have a drink, because my head is spinning.
 
2012-09-14 09:21:02 PM

omnibus_necanda_sunt: For those who advocate Maximum Trolling Overdrive, I will (but shouldn't have to) point out the obvious.

Insulting Muhammad gives the imams more ammo. It feeds the culture war. It creates an 'Us versus Them' dynamic. And it feeds on itself, which one can see simply from the fact that 'troll them some more' is the first reaction people are having to this.

That kind of mindset is what gives us things like the Hundred Year's War.


oh look, you don't have a clue about what the Hundred Years' War was about! Not a clue.
 
2012-09-14 09:22:04 PM
The idea that others do not have to respect our Constitution is 100% correct. But why blame the filmmaker, who is exercising his right on American soil? None of us has to agree with the film's content (I'm a Christian and I find the film's content reprehensible and irresponsible) in order to respect his right to produce a film we may disagree with.

But YouTube and Google had every right to block viewing of the material in countries such as Libya, Afghanistan, Iraq, Saudi Arabia - any country which has a majority Muslim population in which the film would be (and clearly is) deemed outrageously offensive and a threat to the security of Americans. If YouTube/Google can block viewing of some content in some places of the world on copyright grounds or other grounds, they most certainly can do the same with this type of material.

The editorial author is an idiot for suggesting that the filmmaker should be arrested for negligently criminal acts or for jeopardizing national security. He's well within his rights. If the media is to be believed (which they so rarely are), it is that idiot so-called pastor in Florida who's been inciting most of the trouble (his name has been associated with every single news release I have read regarding this film), and the simplest solution from the outset would have been to have YouTube/Google block the material outside of the United States (no,that doesn't deal with IP address spoofing or other means of establishing an IP address outside of your country of origin, but it would at least require a US IP address to view the material in much the same way as many of us took the necessary steps to show a European IP address so that we could watch the actual London Olympics rather than the drivel NBC tried to feed us).
 
2012-09-14 09:22:23 PM

Bell-fan: That right there was seen by a LOT of Christians as horribly sacrilegious and disrespectful.But did you see those offended riot, burn down buildings, and murder people?


And even if they did, every person on FARK who is demanding the arrest of Terry Jones for "inciting violence," would be blaming the Christians who were angered by the sacrilege, and ready to defend Andres Serrano (or, for that matter, Martin Scorsese) with as much violence as necessary.
 
2012-09-14 09:22:57 PM

tenpoundsofcheese: oh look, you don't have a clue about what the Hundred Years' War was about! Not a clue.


It was about one hundred years or so... right?
 
2012-09-14 09:23:56 PM

omnibus_necanda_sunt: For those who advocate Maximum Trolling Overdrive, I will (but shouldn't have to) point out the obvious.

Insulting Muhammad gives the imams more ammo. It feeds the culture war. It creates an 'Us versus Them' dynamic. And it feeds on itself, which one can see simply from the fact that 'troll them some more' is the first reaction people are having to this.

That kind of mindset is what gives us things like the Hundred Year's War.


No. Really, no. Many good answers already posted here as to why, but you are so far from right the light from right won't reach there in the lifetime of the Sun.
 
2012-09-14 09:24:07 PM

Agent Nick Fury: But I would also say that the main traction of the anti-slavery movement was based on the fact the word Creator meant God.


Yeah. Jefferson's philosophical and physical relationship to slavery isn't quite relevant here, but the propensity for Muslims to enslave infidels certainly is and their god is cool with slavery.
At least looking at the facts of history that appears so.
 
2012-09-14 09:24:15 PM

Agent Nick Fury: Slives: My question is a matter of personal responsibility. Should the guy(s) that made the video be able to avoid the responsibility of their actions?

They purposely made a film they knew would be insulting to Muslims, and I think they were hoping for protests. Did they want to get people killed? Who really knows, but you could never prove that. But none the less, they made a point of trying to be as negative as possible, so I think they bear some responsibility for the results of their actions.

Besides, it is already known that Free Speech does not protect everybody from everything they say. How many libel lawsuits are there every year, and how many succeed?

I believe Freedom of Speech is indeed one of our greatest rights and privileges as Americans, but it is meant to encourage discussion, exchange of ideas and prevent other from restricting those discussions. When somebody uses it as a shield to launch an attack like this, then perhaps they don't deserve the right of free speech.

Well son, I mean, you seem to be trying to make a pretty good point here, I mean, I give y'all credit for trying to pontificate what may be looked at as a reasonable arguement but you seem to have your brain cortexes all mushed up together, kinda like trying to fry cornmeal when it's to hot for the cornmeal to, how do they say, con-geel.

You see, this here country has rights and these rights ain't given to us by no individual or no government - that being the case, these rights can't be taken away thus by either of the afore mentioned parties.

Much as some of these New York City liberals might disagree, these rights in America are inalienable and bestowed upon us by what them same liberals refer to as the 'ghost in the sky'.

Now of course, most of these here liberals will argue that there ain't no such thing as this here 'God' person - until of course they demand these here rights for people who ain't even American.

Kinda makes you scratch your head, don't it?


It aways make me scratch my head when someone is foolish enough to mix up the Declaration of Independence with the Constitution.
 
2012-09-14 09:24:17 PM

Radioactive Ass: tenpoundsofcheese: oh look, you don't have a clue about what the Hundred Years' War was about! Not a clue.

It was about one hundred years or so... right?


No. That's the catch.
 
2012-09-14 09:24:20 PM

LazerFish: Agent Nick Fury: your an idiot.

What about my an idiot?


It's only five letters - have Mom google it for you
 
2012-09-14 09:24:59 PM
It really, really saddens me that folks are so willing to give up their freedoms to appease what is basically an opinion.

The belief in God, contrary to facts and evidence, is an opinion.
 
2012-09-14 09:25:20 PM

TheDumbBlonde: cookiefleck: TheDumbBlonde: cookiefleck: TheDumbBlonde: I have a simple idea:

Nothing said by any man or group can justify violence or death.

Yeah, this too..

That, right there, is an example that sane people can agree on an idea, after taking a deep breath and refusing to assign blame for madness.

It's just irritating that as a human species, we haven't evolved beyond "this person said something I don't like? BURN THE WITCH!"

/really people!
//stop being assholes to each other!

I think I'm going to have a drink, because my head is spinning.


Sorry? Was that bad?
 
2012-09-14 09:26:01 PM

TheDumbBlonde: No. That's the catch.


Your sarcasm-meter is broken today huh?
 
2012-09-14 09:26:25 PM

minoridiot: The belief in God, contrary to absent facts and evidence, is an opinion.


ftfy.
 
2012-09-14 09:27:06 PM
"While the First Amendment right to free expression is important, it is also important to remember that other countries and cultures do not have to understand or respect our right. My condolences and prayers go out to the families of the U.S. Embassy employees killed in Libya.

Anthea Butler is an associate professor of religious studies at the University of Pennsylvania."

With all due respect, go fark yourself, biatch. And get the fark out of America you evil, facist coont. you feel that way? LEAVE.
 
2012-09-14 09:28:07 PM

willfullyobscure: With all due respect, go fark yourself, biatch. And get the fark out of America you evil, facist coont. you feel that way? LEAVE.


Taliban USA?

/Got a gun and a truck?
 
2012-09-14 09:28:33 PM
I want to see the Phelps clan represent this guy, for the lulz.

/unless they are truly gutless cowards would will take free speech defense only to the point of behind a fortified bunker
 
2012-09-14 09:29:10 PM

give me doughnuts: Agent Nick Fury: Slives: My question is a matter of personal responsibility. Should the guy(s) that made the video be able to avoid the responsibility of their actions?

They purposely made a film they knew would be insulting to Muslims, and I think they were hoping for protests. Did they want to get people killed? Who really knows, but you could never prove that. But none the less, they made a point of trying to be as negative as possible, so I think they bear some responsibility for the results of their actions.

Besides, it is already known that Free Speech does not protect everybody from everything they say. How many libel lawsuits are there every year, and how many succeed?

I believe Freedom of Speech is indeed one of our greatest rights and privileges as Americans, but it is meant to encourage discussion, exchange of ideas and prevent other from restricting those discussions. When somebody uses it as a shield to launch an attack like this, then perhaps they don't deserve the right of free speech.

Well son, I mean, you seem to be trying to make a pretty good point here, I mean, I give y'all credit for trying to pontificate what may be looked at as a reasonable arguement but you seem to have your brain cortexes all mushed up together, kinda like trying to fry cornmeal when it's to hot for the cornmeal to, how do they say, con-geel.

You see, this here country has rights and these rights ain't given to us by no individual or no government - that being the case, these rights can't be taken away thus by either of the afore mentioned parties.

Much as some of these New York City liberals might disagree, these rights in America are inalienable and bestowed upon us by what them same liberals refer to as the 'ghost in the sky'.

Now of course, most of these here liberals will argue that there ain't no such thing as this here 'God' person - until of course they demand these here rights for people who ain't even American.

Kinda makes you scratch your head, don't it?

...


You mean The Bill of Rights
 
2012-09-14 09:32:16 PM

MrEricSir: COMALite J: You know how the wingnuts talk about leftists being awfully generous with other people′s money? Well, this filmmaker is being awfully courageous with other people′s lives.

You do realize The Ring was just a movie, right? In real life, videos do not actually kill people.


That was a hair question.
 
2012-09-14 09:32:32 PM

cookiefleck: TheDumbBlonde: cookiefleck: TheDumbBlonde: cookiefleck: TheDumbBlonde: I have a simple idea:

Nothing said by any man or group can justify violence or death.

Yeah, this too..

That, right there, is an example that sane people can agree on an idea, after taking a deep breath and refusing to assign blame for madness.

It's just irritating that as a human species, we haven't evolved beyond "this person said something I don't like? BURN THE WITCH!"

/really people!
//stop being assholes to each other!

I think I'm going to have a drink, because my head is spinning.

Sorry? Was that bad?


No. It gave me hope. It was a very nice thing.
 
2012-09-14 09:33:12 PM
I don't agree, but it's not like the 1st Amendment offers ironclad protection. There is a line you can cross, like yelling "fire" in a crowded theater.

The whole argument is invalid for a simple reason.

Making the movie and using digital equipment then processing it and posting it to the internet is a PAROLE VIOLATION.
The act of making ANY kind of movie violated his parole.
 
2012-09-14 09:33:23 PM

HotIgneous Intruder: omnibus_necanda_sunt: Insulting Muhammad gives the imams more ammo. It feeds the culture war. It creates an 'Us versus Them' dynamic. And it feeds on itself, which one can see simply from the fact that 'troll them some more' is the first reaction people are having to this.

So be quiet and polite and maybe the mean Moose Limbs will go away. Right?
Tell that to the tens of millions of people the Muslims killed or enslaved or made to pay jizya since the year 603.


Appeal to ridicule coupled with appeal to emotion.

/And you called yourself an editor?
 
2012-09-14 09:33:28 PM

Agent Nick Fury: give me doughnuts: Agent Nick Fury: Slives: My question is a matter of personal responsibility. Should the guy(s) that made the video be able to avoid the responsibility of their actions?

They purposely made a film they knew would be insulting to Muslims, and I think they were hoping for protests. Did they want to get people killed? Who really knows, but you could never prove that. But none the less, they made a point of trying to be as negative as possible, so I think they bear some responsibility for the results of their actions.

Besides, it is already known that Free Speech does not protect everybody from everything they say. How many libel lawsuits are there every year, and how many succeed?

I believe Freedom of Speech is indeed one of our greatest rights and privileges as Americans, but it is meant to encourage discussion, exchange of ideas and prevent other from restricting those discussions. When somebody uses it as a shield to launch an attack like this, then perhaps they don't deserve the right of free speech.

Well son, I mean, you seem to be trying to make a pretty good point here, I mean, I give y'all credit for trying to pontificate what may be looked at as a reasonable arguement but you seem to have your brain cortexes all mushed up together, kinda like trying to fry cornmeal when it's to hot for the cornmeal to, how do they say, con-geel.

You see, this here country has rights and these rights ain't given to us by no individual or no government - that being the case, these rights can't be taken away thus by either of the afore mentioned parties.

Much as some of these New York City liberals might disagree, these rights in America are inalienable and bestowed upon us by what them same liberals refer to as the 'ghost in the sky'.

Now of course, most of these here liberals will argue that there ain't no such thing as this here 'God' person - until of course they demand these here rights for people who ain't even American.

Kinda makes you scratch you ...


The Bill of Rights is part of the Constitution, just like the rest of the Amendments.
 
2012-09-14 09:34:06 PM

RexTalionis: I don't think that guy should be put in jail at all. He exercised his 1st Amendment rights and he's got every right to. The government should not infringe that right.

But that doesn't mean we should be obligated to protect him.


Agree. He's a worthless piece of shiat that is hiding while innocent people get killed because of what he did. He should not be in jail. He should be put on the first plane to Libya so he can face his critics.
 
2012-09-14 09:34:28 PM

prjindigo: Making the movie and using digital equipment then processing it and posting it to the internet is a PAROLE VIOLATION.
The act of making ANY kind of movie violated his parole.


Shazam!
Hello, Nation of Islam in prison.
 
2012-09-14 09:34:30 PM

omnibus_necanda_sunt: Insulting Muhammad gives the imams more ammo. It feeds the culture war. It creates an 'Us versus Them' dynamic. And it feeds on itself, which one can see simply from the fact that 'troll them some more' is the first reaction people are having to this.


Doesn't matter in the least. If the imams can't find a reason to jump ugly with the civilized world, they invent one.

If it's publicity they'd like, we can give them that, hopefully in the form of a news story that begins "A Predator drone strike this morning killed an imam closely tied to" etcetera.
 
2012-09-14 09:35:11 PM

Radioactive Ass: TheDumbBlonde: No. That's the catch.

Your sarcasm-meter is broken today huh?


It's Friday. It starts to run low on by Wednesdays on Fark.
 
2012-09-14 09:35:39 PM
I guess by this dumb biatches logic, if I go around and murder everyone who likes avatar because I didn't like the movie and it offended me, everyone involved in the making of the film should be tried for murder, while I get off scott free.
 
2012-09-14 09:37:45 PM

silverjets: RexTalionis: I don't think that guy should be put in jail at all. He exercised his 1st Amendment rights and he's got every right to. The government should not infringe that right.

But that doesn't mean we should be obligated to protect him.

Agree. He's a worthless piece of shiat that is hiding while innocent people get killed because of what he did. He should not be in jail. He should be put on the first plane to Libya so he can face his critics.


Hello prince Dhimmi
 
2012-09-14 09:37:48 PM

HotIgneous Intruder: willfullyobscure: With all due respect, go fark yourself, biatch. And get the fark out of America you evil, facist coont. you feel that way? LEAVE.

Taliban USA?

/Got a gun and a truck?


I'm actually a high-powered white collar worker from the Northeast that runs in some pretty sophisticated circles. Brie and art and whatnot. Bought local corn at Whole Foods tonight and I don't cut my sons' hair, I know a Kennedy or two.

But yes, of course I have a gun. Its not easy to get the permits and licenses in my area, but I had no trouble, thanks to knowing the right folks.

Anyway, my statement stands. fark this asshole straight in the ear if she's going to advocate against the moral bedrock of this country, which is inviolable individual liberty in speech, association, religion, the press and the right to redress. She's not a real American, as far as I'm concerned, because she doesn't share those values, and she should get the hell out and live somewhere they allow the government to tell you what to say. I suggest...Libya.
 
2012-09-14 09:38:23 PM

prjindigo: The act of making ANY kind of movie violated his parole.


Okay, so somebody with a clean record makes a gay-porn sequel - I'm thinking "Miguel Mounts Muhammad", "Pounding The Prophet XIV", something catchy like that.

Now what?
 
2012-09-14 09:39:14 PM

Gulper Eel: omnibus_necanda_sunt: Insulting Muhammad gives the imams more ammo. It feeds the culture war. It creates an 'Us versus Them' dynamic. And it feeds on itself, which one can see simply from the fact that 'troll them some more' is the first reaction people are having to this.

Doesn't matter in the least. If the imams can't find a reason to jump ugly with the civilized world, they invent one.


"Some of the people all the time, all the people some of the time..."

Lying will eventually destroy their credibility. Look what happened to the Papacy.
 
2012-09-14 09:39:25 PM

Fool_Marquis: Aarontology: King Something: If you think this film should be protected speech (especially since it was made for the express purpose of getting Muslims riled up), you should try yelling "fire" in a crowded theater, saying "bomb" at an airport, calling "mayday" three times in succession over a radio, or calling 911 a dozen times in an hour.

Those aren't really analogous.

The analogy is this: Will the freely given speech, under normal circumstances, knowing the world as it is, cause a chaotic, potentially disastrous consequence?

Yelling fire in a crowded theater will cause a stampede for the doors, potentially injuring or killing people.

Saying "Bomb" at an airport may (a) terrify travelers into a stampede, causing injuries and chaos, or (b) cause the TSA to tackle you violently to the ground, detain you, and give you a series of unwelcome deep cavity checks, which result in your anus bleeding.

Calling "Mayday" three times over radio is an open call for disaster assistance. If the coast guard / air traffic controllers / whoever is on the other end of the radio is assisting your false claim, some other actual disaster may occur resulting in terrible consequences. People may die because of your actions.

Calling 911 a dozen times in an hour is similar to yelling Mayday, as police resources that could be used to help someone genuinely in need may be wasted on your stupid ass.

So, Given what we know about the situation in the middle east, how Islamic culture reacted to a cartoon of Mohammed with a bomb for a turban (which someone else will post, i'm sure), and how easily their clerics are offended, and the extreme state of reactions that said offended clerics can provoke out of their followers: would making a movie about how Mohammed was a complete tool be a good idea? Could it cause people to get hurt? Would resources that could be better used elsewhere be diverted away from their intended cause as a direct result of this?

Yes to all questions, catastrophic results occurred, he needs to be held responsible for negligence.


Well, seeing how there probably doesn't exist one show on prime time US television that does not offend muslims in the rest of the world should we stop showing those too? There may be a line that can be crossed with free speech but this idiot with the movie isn't anywhere near it.
 
2012-09-14 09:40:05 PM
More and more often I find myself, while very often liberal on issues, very much not wanting to be associated with "liberals."
 
2012-09-14 09:40:19 PM

omnibus_necanda_sunt: HotIgneous Intruder: omnibus_necanda_sunt: Insulting Muhammad gives the imams more ammo. It feeds the culture war. It creates an 'Us versus Them' dynamic. And it feeds on itself, which one can see simply from the fact that 'troll them some more' is the first reaction people are having to this.

So be quiet and polite and maybe the mean Moose Limbs will go away. Right?
Tell that to the tens of millions of people the Muslims killed or enslaved or made to pay jizya since the year 603.

Appeal to ridicule coupled with appeal to emotion.

/And you called yourself an editor?


I take it you haven't noticed the Us vs. Them dynamic that is part and parcel of Islam and has been since its inception. Islam is an expansionist religion. They want it that way. They crave conflict and will cause it whenever they can.

Nice that you're taking copious notes on my background. Kinda weird and stalker-like, but good for you. Everyone needs role models.
 
2012-09-14 09:40:43 PM
FTA: "My tweets reflected my exasperation that as a religion professor, it is difficult to teach the facts when movies such as Bacile's Innocence of Muslims are taken as both truth and propaganda..."

Well, he's obviously not an English professor.
 
2012-09-14 09:41:40 PM

omnibus_necanda_sunt: Gulper Eel: omnibus_necanda_sunt: Insulting Muhammad gives the imams more ammo. It feeds the culture war. It creates an 'Us versus Them' dynamic. And it feeds on itself, which one can see simply from the fact that 'troll them some more' is the first reaction people are having to this.

Doesn't matter in the least. If the imams can't find a reason to jump ugly with the civilized world, they invent one.

"Some of the people all the time, all the people some of the time..."

Lying will eventually destroy their credibility. Look what happened to the Papacy.


Don't bring the Papacy into this. Rabid Catholics aren't torching anyone.
 
2012-09-14 09:42:48 PM
this really makes my blood boil, that actual citizens in the united states, think the man who made the movie is responsible for any violence or action done by stupid assholes in third world shiat hole halfway across the world.

Muslims riot at every chance, they murder at half the chance, this guy could have said "I am not to fond of the Quran" and it would have lead to SOMEONE blaming their shiatheel actions on him. I guess those people who were murdered had it coming too right? They supported the zionist machine that supports israel after all (yet another quoted reason for murdering and rape and rioting according to the muslim world) so it was not murder, it was self defense?

You farkers really should kill yourselves if you think the film maker is responsible for anything.
 
2012-09-14 09:42:50 PM
I think you could try to make the case that this film is akin to inciting to riot. The difference being that rather than encouraging your followers to riot you have taken an action which you know will inflame your opponents and incite them to riot.
 
2012-09-14 09:43:21 PM

chemical_angel: More and more often I find myself, while very often liberal on issues, very much not wanting to be associated with "liberals."


I hear that. I self-identified as a liberal for decades before I realized I was actually a paleoconservative.
It's a hard journey to make; realizing people are idiots and that you were of their tribe is difficult but cathartic.

/Mamet's piece on why he is no longer a brain-dead liberal is pretty good, despite the cringe-worthy title. Google it.
 
2012-09-14 09:43:22 PM

ferretman: I find the way the John Stewart ridicules Christianity offensive. So he should be arrested and put in jail; I guess that goes for the majority of farkers as well.


Nope. Ridicule all religions. They're all pretty much the same lies anyway.
 
2012-09-14 09:43:36 PM

willfullyobscure: HotIgneous Intruder: willfullyobscure: With all due respect, go fark yourself, biatch. And get the fark out of America you evil, facist coont. you feel that way? LEAVE.

Taliban USA?

/Got a gun and a truck?

I'm actually a high-powered white collar worker from the Northeast that runs in some pretty sophisticated circles. Brie and art and whatnot. Bought local corn at Whole Foods tonight and I don't cut my sons' hair, I know a Kennedy or two.

But yes, of course I have a gun. Its not easy to get the permits and licenses in my area, but I had no trouble, thanks to knowing the right folks.

Anyway, my statement stands. fark this asshole straight in the ear if she's going to advocate against the moral bedrock of this country, which is inviolable individual liberty in speech, association, religion, the press and the right to redress. She's not a real American, as far as I'm concerned, because she doesn't share those values, and she should get the hell out and live somewhere they allow the government to tell you what to say. I suggest...Libya.


Wow, focusing on surface details, name dropping, bragging...

If you're a liberal, you should know that what you're feeling is called the 'Rally 'round the Flag' effect, and is the reason half the people I used to have favorited have been plonked as 'Islamophobe.'

Oh, and atomicmask, who I plonked as 'Breivik in disguise' after his third post. And only half-jokingly.
 
2012-09-14 09:45:28 PM

atomicmask: You farkers really should kill yourselves if you think the film maker is responsible for anything.


There's an entire canon of motion pictures that forms a cornerstone of modern American culture and captures the American zeitgeist. You should get up on that.
 
2012-09-14 09:45:40 PM

runwiz: I think you could try to make the case that this film is akin to inciting to riot. The difference being that rather than encouraging your followers to riot you have taken an action which you know will inflame your opponents and incite them to riot.


That makes absolutely no sense. Anyone an editor around here?
 
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