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(Reuters)   Germany, a country with stricter anti-hate speech laws than America, has its embassy stormed in Khartoum over American-produced video perceived to be hate speech. Protesters, you're doing it wrong   (reuters.com) divider line 278
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2012-09-14 12:31:09 PM  
If Romney were Chancellor of Germany, none of this would have happened.
 
2012-09-14 12:32:10 PM  

Protesters, you're doing it wrong


They probably don't have maps and like such as.
 
2012-09-14 12:32:11 PM  
At this point one feels that the 'protesters' are just looking for an excuse.
 
2012-09-14 12:32:23 PM  
Uh, they were doing it wrong when they stormed the American embassy, too.
 
2012-09-14 12:32:33 PM  
Can't bomb these goat farkers fast enough.
 
2012-09-14 12:32:38 PM  

markie_farkie: If Romney were Chancellor of Germany, none of this would have happened.


Kaiser. The term is "Kaiser".
 
2012-09-14 12:33:14 PM  

markie_farkie: If Romney were Chancellor of Germany, none of this would have happened.


Insta-Godwin!
 
2012-09-14 12:33:14 PM  
Step your game up protesters, go burn the Reichstag.

/then see what happens to you
 
2012-09-14 12:33:43 PM  
Who cares? These islamists have a riot every three days over any real or perceived slight to their inane mumbo-jumbo. It's not even news any more.
 
2012-09-14 12:34:11 PM  

grinding_journalist: markie_farkie: If Romney were Chancellor of Germany, none of this would have happened.

Kaiser. The term is "Kaiser"


How come everybody want to keep it like a Romney!
 
2012-09-14 12:34:57 PM  
I think we've long moved past the term "protestors" with this story
 
2012-09-14 12:35:08 PM  
These protests may have been triggered by the movie, but I think we can safely conclude they are not about the movie.
 
2012-09-14 12:35:45 PM  

Nurglitch: At this point one feels that the 'protesters' are just looking for an excuse.


"This point" being the time period between 1,000BC and 2012AD.
 
2012-09-14 12:36:00 PM  
I'm sure Mitt Romney's foreign policy advisers are preparing a response for deployment of American forces... as soon as they find the Nation of Islam on a map.
 
2012-09-14 12:36:05 PM  
It's a convenient excuse. Something organized is going on, and any pretext will do.

Somebody is using the thin skins of muslim fundamentalists to accomplish something.
 
2012-09-14 12:36:30 PM  
Part of me wants to believe that this is subtle troll payback for invading countries with only peripheral involvement in 9/11.
 
2012-09-14 12:36:50 PM  
They sure do idolize the guy they aren't allowed to depict because they might fall into idolatry.
 
2012-09-14 12:36:53 PM  

markie_farkie: If Romney were Chancellor of Germany, none of this would have happened.


A few of his best friends were Chancellors of Germany from 1933 - 1945
 
2012-09-14 12:37:15 PM  
Shiat this stupid wins two memes from me....

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2012-09-14 12:37:16 PM  
My attempt (with a NYT article):

The Sudanese wanted to join in on the Anti-American protests, too, but didn't quite get the address right. I knew I should'a taken that left turn at Aschersleben
 
2012-09-14 12:37:26 PM  

karmaceutical


I'm sure Mitt Romney's foreign policy advisers are preparing a response for deployment of American forces... as soon as they find the Nation of Islam on a map.


First they have to help the poor flood victims in Rand McNally.
 
2012-09-14 12:37:36 PM  
Well, this is surprising. Angry mobs are usually rational & intelligent.
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LET'S BURN ALL THE THROW PILLOWS AT THE POTTERY BARN!! 
 
2012-09-14 12:38:11 PM  
Violent religious fanatics and people who have already made up their mind about committing violence don't see provocation, they see excuses.
 
2012-09-14 12:38:16 PM  
Is there a channel where I could watch this live? Perhaps the Khartoum Network?
 
2012-09-14 12:38:30 PM  
false flag attempt?

Germany wants in on the action!!1!!
 
2012-09-14 12:38:52 PM  

The Dog Ate The Constitution: Can't bomb these goat farkers fast enough.


The world will be a better place on the day that you leave it.
 
2012-09-14 12:39:10 PM  
It's obvious at this point that none of this has anything to do with Islamic outrage over a video. These are all happening in a coordinated fashion, hitting the same targets. The fact that this all started around September 11 is just blatant.

There is no pretending this to be random acts of violence. A singular entity is behind this. Either a coordinated terrorist organization, or a government wanting to spark more direct conflict across Africa and the ME is orchestrating these "protests."
 
2012-09-14 12:40:22 PM  
We totally need to just use fake embassies. Big, flashy place with fences and flags and nobody inside and not a damn thing flammable.

We'll just rent out a commercial space a few blocks away for actual operations, and keep it on the down-low.
 
2012-09-14 12:40:26 PM  
THEY'RE BURNING THE FAST FOOD RESTAURANTS! SOMEONE SAVE THE CHICKEN BREASTS!
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2012-09-14 12:40:27 PM  

oldfarthenry: Well, this is surprising. Angry mobs are usually rational & intelligent.
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LET'S BURN ALL THE THROW PILLOWS AT THE POTTERY BARN!!


I have no doubt dead Americans are always a bonus, but half of this seems like the local Islamists wanting a chance to whip a mob and challenge local security forces.
 
2012-09-14 12:40:30 PM  
But don't ever call it violent. This is a worldwide random embassy storming OF PEACE!
 
2012-09-14 12:40:50 PM  
The fact that America is jumping on the fire so quickly in order to contain it is heartening.

Obama 2012.
 
2012-09-14 12:41:22 PM  
Can we please stop giving these animals money now?
 
2012-09-14 12:41:35 PM  
It is time to elect the One
Mighty and Strong to lead us. Romney 2012
 
2012-09-14 12:41:42 PM  

Kuroshin: There is no pretending this to be random acts of violence. A singular entity is behind this. Either a coordinated terrorist organization, or a government wanting to spark more direct conflict across Africa and the ME is orchestrating these "protests."


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2012-09-14 12:42:16 PM  
Limbaugh is absolutely giddy about the whole thing today
 
2012-09-14 12:42:20 PM  

Kuroshin: It's obvious at this point that none of this has anything to do with Islamic outrage over a video. These are all happening in a coordinated fashion, hitting the same targets. The fact that this all started around September 11 is just blatant.

There is no pretending this to be random acts of violence. A singular entity is behind this. Either a coordinated terrorist organization, or a government wanting to spark more direct conflict across Africa and the ME is orchestrating these "protests."


But Saddam Hussein is already dead!!
 
2012-09-14 12:42:22 PM  
The Muslim rioters are unpaid actors in in a play written, produced and financed by whack-job crazy Christians.
Someone really ought to let them know.
 
2012-09-14 12:43:16 PM  
I'm usually the most libby lib that ever libbed but I'm starting to wonder why we bother to take these people seriously. If they can't stand having a movie even exist that makes fun of them without storming embassies and killing people well...fark em. Respect is earned.
 
2012-09-14 12:43:28 PM  
hooray for ultraconservative religious nut jobs!
 
2012-09-14 12:43:47 PM  
I still say a couple smallish nukes wrapped in bacon a couple days ago and this would have ended there.
 
2012-09-14 12:43:56 PM  

BMulligan: The Dog Ate The Constitution: Can't bomb these goat farkers fast enough.

The world will be a better place on the day that you leave it.


It must suck being cooped up inside when all your friends are out rioting and attacking U.S. embassies.
 
2012-09-14 12:44:21 PM  
American mentality: free speech

Middle East mentality: say something I disagree with and I will kill anyone from your country or even allies of your country and then burn down my own city. That will learn you.

Close our embassies and don't give one more penny to these countries that hate us and want to kill us. We gave billions to Pakistan while they hid Bin laden for a decade. And if you think Pakistan didn't know he was there I have a bridge to sell you.
 
2012-09-14 12:44:36 PM  
Is there a real source except U.S. media claiming it's this "film" as the reason for these protests? This seems more like an organized revolt against the U.S. then over some shiatty film. I mean fark there are probably 1000s of videos making fun of Islam.. Why does this one suddenly spark outrage?
 
2012-09-14 12:45:07 PM  

Walker: THEY'RE BURNING THE FAST FOOD RESTAURANTS! SOMEONE SAVE THE CHICKEN BREASTS!
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They keep saying KFC but this looks like a deliberate attack on Hardee's to punish them for their Double "Bacon Bacon Biscuit". Sure, steal our flag, I don't give a shiat, but I will not stand an assault on bacon. This is the line in the sand you radical muslim freaks. This aggression will not stand.
 
2012-09-14 12:45:58 PM  
This must be payback for when they bombed Pearl Harbor.
 
2012-09-14 12:46:23 PM  

Oznog: We totally need to just use fake embassies.


www.scvhistory.com

What until they hear about the Number Six dance..
 
2012-09-14 12:46:40 PM  

styckx: Is there a real source except U.S. media claiming it's this "film" as the reason for these protests? This seems more like an organized revolt against the U.S. then over some shiatty film. I mean fark there are probably 1000s of videos making fun of Islam.. Why does this one suddenly spark outrage?


Because an Egyptian talk show host discussed it on September 8.
 
2012-09-14 12:46:42 PM  
America has no hate speech laws because unlike Germany we ban thoughtcrimes.
 
2012-09-14 12:46:44 PM  

Walker: Close our embassies and don't give one more penny to these countries that hate us and want to kill us. We gave billions to Pakistan while they hid Bin laden for a decade. And if you think Pakistan didn't know he was there I have a bridge to sell you.



I trust Pakistan as far as I can throw it.
 
2012-09-14 12:46:58 PM  
Lets see what world hide and seek champion and free speech advocate Julian Assange has to say:

"By the US accepting the UK siege on the Ecuadorian embassy in London it gave tacit approval for attacks on embassies around the world."

The take away from this is that Julian once again exposes himself as one of the worst people in the world.
 
2012-09-14 12:47:06 PM  

markie_farkie: What


Wait
 
2012-09-14 12:47:56 PM  
I viewed the trailer and didn't see any hate speech. It was just a poorly made satire. If asshats want to start violence over a movie, then maybe this producer guy is a hero. There needs to be more and more of these movies. If we avoid this problem using BS like hate speech law, it will only get much worse over time.

Eastern Europe's strong hate speech laws are the biggest reason that huge numbers of Nazis still exist. Had those ideas been discussed freely, they would probably already have been dismissed as obsolete and counterproductive. Outlawing them gives them great credibility.
 
2012-09-14 12:48:01 PM  

Kuroshin: It's obvious at this point that none of this has anything to do with Islamic outrage over a video. These are all happening in a coordinated fashion, hitting the same targets. The fact that this all started around September 11 is just blatant.

There is no pretending this to be random acts of violence. A singular entity is behind this. Either a coordinated terrorist organization, or a government wanting to spark more direct conflict across Africa and the ME is orchestrating these "protests."


Agreed. I think they might also be doing it to make Obama look bad because he's made a point to actually target the terrorists. They want Republicans back in place who will then ignore Al Qaeda and instead invade somewhere else. They want people in power who actually resemble anti-American propaganda. They want another 8 years of George W. Bush. At least, Bin Ladin did.

Or it could be a way to get people riled up and willing to listen to the more radical elements. They might be afraid that more and more people are rejecting the radical way, and this is a way to try to bring them back by whipping up an imagined or overblown slight. (It worked for the Tea Party in 2009, with the health care town halls) So this could also be a way of getting people on board. It also proves that what Obama is doing over there is working.

And it could be both, who knows. But the fact that it started on September 11th is no coincidence. This is a planned series of events, and it shows just how desperate they are, whoever is behind it.
 
2012-09-14 12:48:17 PM  

styckx: Is there a real source except U.S. media claiming it's this "film" as the reason for these protests? This seems more like an organized revolt against the U.S. then over some shiatty film. I mean fark there are probably 1000s of videos making fun of Islam.. Why does this one suddenly spark outrage?


It's a convenient excuse for rioting.
 
2012-09-14 12:48:47 PM  

Walker: THEY'RE BURNING THE FAST FOOD RESTAURANTS! SOMEONE SAVE THE CHICKEN BREASTS!
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....and nothing of value was lost.

While it is possible entities are coordinating via social media...all of this particularly those aimed at our (US) allies smacks of "false flag" type stuff. Even the creation of the movie itself. That dirty little turd from CA that created it; who did so knowing the possible result...has he come forth with a motive? Financial sources?

I smell a rat in the baseboards.
 
2012-09-14 12:48:50 PM  

styckx: Is there a real source except U.S. media claiming it's this "film" as the reason for these protests? This seems more like an organized revolt against the U.S. then over some shiatty film. I mean fark there are probably 1000s of videos making fun of Islam.. Why does this one suddenly spark outrage?


Because this is the one al-quada is using as an excuse for their terrorism today.
 
2012-09-14 12:48:57 PM  

Walker: THEY'RE BURNING THE FAST FOOD RESTAURANTS! SOMEONE SAVE THE CHICKEN BREASTS!
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I have no problem with them burning one of those Carl's Jr. neo-Hardees.
 
2012-09-14 12:49:03 PM  

12349876: styckx: Is there a real source except U.S. media claiming it's this "film" as the reason for these protests? This seems more like an organized revolt against the U.S. then over some shiatty film. I mean fark there are probably 1000s of videos making fun of Islam.. Why does this one suddenly spark outrage?

Because an Egyptian talk show host discussed it on September 8.


And we all know what Glenn Beck did to a girl in 1990.. Why aren't we burning down Foxnews Embassies?
 
2012-09-14 12:49:05 PM  

Purdue_Pete: Walker: THEY'RE BURNING THE FAST FOOD RESTAURANTS! SOMEONE SAVE THE CHICKEN BREASTS!
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They keep saying KFC but this looks like a deliberate attack on Hardee's to punish them for their Double "Bacon Bacon Biscuit". Sure, steal our flag, I don't give a shiat, but I will not stand an assault on bacon. This is the line in the sand you radical muslim freaks. This aggression will not stand.



Nope....they burned down Hardee's because they were selling crack at the drive through window.

/Joke stolen from Chris Rock.
 
2012-09-14 12:49:08 PM  
styckx:
Is there a real source except U.S. media claiming it's this "film" as the reason for these protests?

There was a story a couple of days ago (can't remember where - a British news org, I think) where the reporter went to the Egyptian protest and asked about the film.

"What film?"
 
2012-09-14 12:50:18 PM  
FTA: "Sudan's Foreign Ministry had criticized Germany for allowing a protest last month by right-wing activists carrying caricatures of the Prophet and for Chancellor Angela Merkel giving an award in 2010 to a Danish cartoonist who depicted the Prophet in 2005 triggering protests across the Islamic world."

I'm in no way defending the mobs, but targeting the German embassy is not as totally unrelated as subby makes it out to be.
 
2012-09-14 12:50:48 PM  

Muta: Kuroshin: There is no pretending this to be random acts of violence. A singular entity is behind this. Either a coordinated terrorist organization, or a government wanting to spark more direct conflict across Africa and the ME is orchestrating these "protests."

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While you were choking, you misspelled "Iran"

/Just thought you should know
 
2012-09-14 12:50:50 PM  

karmaceutical: I'm sure Mitt Romney's foreign policy advisers are preparing a response for deployment of American forces... as soon as they find the Nation of Islam on a map.


Oh yeah, cuz mitt romney stupid. You so smart!!!
 
2012-09-14 12:50:53 PM  

mynameist: I viewed the trailer and didn't see any hate speech. It was just a poorly made satire. If asshats want to start violence over a movie, then maybe this producer guy is a hero. There needs to be more and more of these movies. If we avoid this problem using BS like hate speech law, it will only get much worse over time.

Eastern Europe's strong hate speech laws are the biggest reason that huge numbers of Nazis still exist. Had those ideas been discussed freely, they would probably already have been dismissed as obsolete and counterproductive. Outlawing them gives them great credibility.


I don't think it gives them credibility, per se, but you are correct in that avoiding discussion about them prevents their glaring flaws from being made public, and *THAT* is a problem.

I know it's a bit of a platitude, but it's as correct now as it was when it was first uttered:

The antidote to speech you find abhorrent is more speech, not less.
 
2012-09-14 12:50:55 PM  
Romneybot demands order in the Reichstaag!
 
2012-09-14 12:51:19 PM  
This is what happens when you have a bunch of uneducated morans raised on magical thinking being led by charismatic hate mongers.
 
2012-09-14 12:51:21 PM  
Whoever the director of that film is, give that guy a troll of the year award.

Or whoever his boss is who is behind organizing all of this.
 
2012-09-14 12:52:17 PM  

lewismarktwo: This is what happens when you have a bunch of uneducated morans raised on magical thinking being led by charismatic hate mongers.


But enough about the GOP.....
 
2012-09-14 12:52:26 PM  
You'd Better Behave! Don't destroy my election chances.
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2012-09-14 12:52:29 PM  
I really don't want Germany on our side in WWIII. They lost the first 2 already. Can we pick Russia again?
 
2012-09-14 12:52:58 PM  

Artemus_Hackwell: That dirty little turd from CA that created it; who did so knowing the possible result...has he come forth with a motive? Financial sources?


The story at the moment is that the creator hates both Islam and the United States, and is part of a domestic hate group that wants to overthrow America and rebuild in its place a Christian theocracy to stand against the oncoming war against Islam. So he makes a video to inflame the Middle East into violence, who will them turn it against American interests abroad, weakening the American government for the eventual coup by he and his Christian soldiers. As for the financing, I haven't heard much about it.
 
2012-09-14 12:53:03 PM  
Mad at film made in America so they attack a German embassy...

They must've learned that move from the Dubya administration..
 
2012-09-14 12:54:33 PM  

BMulligan: The Dog Ate The Constitution: Can't bomb these goat farkers fast enough.

The world will be a better place on the day that you leave it.


So it's ok for you to wish death on someone??
 
2012-09-14 12:54:46 PM  

styckx: Is there a real source except U.S. media claiming it's this "film" as the reason for these protests? This seems more like an organized revolt against the U.S. then over some shiatty film. I mean fark there are probably 1000s of videos making fun of Islam.. Why does this one suddenly spark outrage?


And admit that the administration doesn't have a clue what it's doing in the Middle East? No, better to blame this whole thing on right wing christians.
 
2012-09-14 12:55:05 PM  
Come on, you cowards. Hit the Russian embassy. I want to see what happens when you hit a group that will hit back with no moral qualms about trying to be the "nice guy."

/or maybe the Russians are behind this...
//who benefits the most from these riots, anyway?
 
2012-09-14 12:56:24 PM  

JNowe: Uh, they were doing it wrong when they stormed the American embassy, too.


They don't understand our freedom of speech.

Over there (for the most part) such a thing would not be allowed by the government.
 
2012-09-14 12:57:26 PM  

Oznog: We totally need to just use fake embassies. Big, flashy place with fences and flags and nobody inside and not a damn thing flammable.

We'll just rent out a commercial space a few blocks away for actual operations, and keep it on the down-low.


Set it up so its easy to get in and nearly impossible to get out.
 
2012-09-14 12:57:53 PM  
If you don't get it, making nice with these backward idiots doesn't make them like us. They hate us. They think there are only two good kinds of infidels, converted or dead. They want us to live the way they live. Stupidly. If you think Obama and Hillary use smart diplomacy, why don't you get a job in an Embassy in the Middle East.
 
2012-09-14 12:58:30 PM  
My guess is that someone in the ME saw the election coverage over here and realized they were being out-derped. So they had to get all their friends together and show the world that noone out-derps the middle east.

\Derpy derp
\\Derpcon 5
 
2012-09-14 12:59:44 PM  
Holy fark just drop some damn napalm on these protests and get it over with.
 
2012-09-14 01:00:41 PM  

rebelpride644: BMulligan: The Dog Ate The Constitution: Can't bomb these goat farkers fast enough.

The world will be a better place on the day that you leave it.

So it's ok for you to wish death on someone??


Uh, he didn't wish death on anyone. If you can't tell the difference between those two statements you quoted then maybe you should just sit your bad self down before you make yourself look stupid again.
 
2012-09-14 01:00:48 PM  
FTFA:
Two Islamist preachers in Egypt told worshippers that those who made the movie deserved to die under sharia (Islamic law)

Okay, worshippers of Islam, here's the deal: AMERICANS DO NOT OPERATE UNDER ISLAMIC LAW. We operate under another set of laws, commonly framed within a little document we call The Constitution. We don't operate under your laws in our country. And you may note that when your people come to OUR country, we acknowledge your right to dress according to your traditions, eat according to your traditions, and worship according to your traditions--even though you're in a country that doesn't share those traditions.

While I do not agree with the making of the movie, I support the rights of those who made it. It was made in America, and the only reason you folks know anything about it is because of the Internet, which was also invented in America. And you're watching it on computers, which are an American invention as well.

So take your sorry-ass protests and shove them up your hairy asses. We'll gladly take our Embassies, our aid, human rights groups and political persuasions out of your backwater countries.

P.S. And don't any of you have JOBS? Sheeesh.
 
2012-09-14 01:01:13 PM  

Oznog: We totally need to just use fake embassies. Big, flashy place with fences and flags and nobody inside and every other brick made of solid C4, and wired for remote detonation.

We'll just rent out a commercial space a few blocks away for actual operations, and keep it on the down-low.


Plus, several cameras inside and outside from a block away so we can enjoy the show once all those idiots get inside.
 
2012-09-14 01:01:58 PM  

mekki: Come on, you cowards. Hit the Russian embassy. I want to see what happens when you hit a group that will hit back with no moral qualms about trying to be the "nice guy."

/or maybe the Russians are behind this...
//who benefits the most from these riots, anyway?


Right now, it looks like Churches and Popeyes. But, we'll see.

/going to hell
 
2012-09-14 01:02:17 PM  

arcas: Mad at film made in America so they attack a German embassy...

They must've learned that move from the Dubya administration..


Made in America... but by and Egyptian Christian that it intently trying to throw the world into WWIII to spark the inevitable Christian Vs. Muslim Ultimate Showdown XIV® (I hope it's not Pay-Per-View this year). Give him props I guess, at least he is making more progress toward his life goals than most of us. He's a real go-getter with Troll Level ∞.

/firggin' mayans
 
2012-09-14 01:02:50 PM  

Kuroshin: It's obvious at this point that none of this has anything to do with Islamic outrage over a video. These are all happening in a coordinated fashion, hitting the same targets. The fact that this all started around September 11 is just blatant.

There is no pretending this to be random acts of violence. A singular entity is behind this. Either a coordinated terrorist organization, or a government wanting to spark more direct conflict across Africa and the ME is orchestrating these "protests."


I bet you believe 9/11 was an inside job, too.
 
2012-09-14 01:03:09 PM  

Muta: Is there a channel where I could watch this live? Perhaps the Khartoum Network?


*snerk*
 
2012-09-14 01:07:38 PM  

styckx: 12349876: styckx: Is there a real source except U.S. media claiming it's this "film" as the reason for these protests? This seems more like an organized revolt against the U.S. then over some shiatty film. I mean fark there are probably 1000s of videos making fun of Islam.. Why does this one suddenly spark outrage?

Because an Egyptian talk show host discussed it on September 8.

And we all know what Glenn Beck did to a girl in 1990.. Why aren't we burning down Foxnews Embassies?


I was only answering the "why did it spark outrage" part. An obsure, barely seen Youtube video gets shown on Egyptian TV by a radical Islamist talk show host and that's why it's an "outrage" and other videos still in intertube obscurity are not.
 
2012-09-14 01:08:09 PM  

TrixieDelite: FTFA:
Two Islamist preachers in Egypt told worshippers that those who made the movie deserved to die under sharia (Islamic law)

Okay, worshippers of Islam, here's the deal: AMERICANS DO NOT OPERATE UNDER ISLAMIC LAW.

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2012-09-14 01:09:13 PM  

mekki: Come on, you cowards. Hit the Russian embassy. I want to see what happens when you hit a group that will hit back with no moral qualms about trying to be the "nice guy."

/or maybe the Russians are behind this...
//who benefits the most from these riots, anyway?


Hardline fundamentalists. It is always the fundamentalists.

Whipping people into a frenzy does two things:

1. Reinforces the fundamentalist ideology, allowing the leaders to further exploit the populace.

2. Destabilizes the sitting (more moderate) government by giving it a black eye and forcing it to clean up this mess.


But all things considered, you have to view it also from a third world perspective: These people are in their own echo chambers and are being told this movie aired NATIONWIDE in AMERICA for SEPTEMBER ELEVENTH. This incredibly offensive lie is spreading like wildfire, probably because people want it to be true.

And fact checking in the middle of Sudan or Libya probably isn't effortless.


This could be a:
A. coordinated false flag movie made to destabilize governments and further terrorism
B. opportunistic grab by fundamentalist groups to further terrorism
C. Only riots set off by the rumors about the movie (not the movie itself, the way they see how we made and consumed the movie shows our implicit approval, a lie, but a masterful one)

I'm thinking a mixture of B & C. THere's no shortage of idiots who blame the US government for all their problems (hell there are multitudes here. Fundamentalists must have thought they struck gold when they saw this movie. Fanning the flames to further destabilze US - ANYONE relations is a net win for any rebel/terrorist/fundamentalist group.

The movie could well have been made by a christian group with the intent to fan the flames themselves, or even a muslim group, but you have to admit that the movie seems to be made to insult muslims. (or pander to islamo-hatered)
 
2012-09-14 01:10:16 PM  
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2012-09-14 01:10:27 PM  

TrixieDelite: FTFA:
Two Islamist preachers in Egypt told worshippers that those who made the movie deserved to die under sharia (Islamic law)

Okay, worshippers of Islam, here's the deal: AMERICANS DO NOT OPERATE UNDER ISLAMIC LAW. We operate under another set of laws, commonly framed within a little document we call The Constitution. We don't operate under your laws in our country. And you may note that when your people come to OUR country, we acknowledge your right to dress according to your traditions, eat according to your traditions, and worship according to your traditions--even though you're in a country that doesn't share those traditions.

While I do not agree with the making of the movie, I support the rights of those who made it. It was made in America, and the only reason you folks know anything about it is because of the Internet, which was also invented in America. And you're watching it on computers, which are an American invention as well.

So take your sorry-ass protests and shove them up your hairy asses. We'll gladly take our Embassies, our aid, human rights groups and political persuasions out of your backwater countries.

P.S. And don't any of you have JOBS? Sheeesh.


To be fair, quoting two random preachers from an entire country does not really make for a convincing argument.

If there was a protest outside an abortion clinic, I'm sure an intrepid reporter could dig up two pastors who claim that the doctors inside deserve to die based upon their religious beliefs.
 
2012-09-14 01:11:08 PM  
Don't worry, the German press is already condemning the US.
 
2012-09-14 01:12:24 PM  

mekki: Come on, you cowards. Hit the Russian embassy. I want to see what happens when you hit a group that will hit back with no moral qualms about trying to be the "nice guy."

/or maybe the Russians are behind this...
//who benefits the most from these riots, anyway?


Israel, I guess. They have been fairly adept at manipulating the Religious Right to advance their grudges against the Muslim world.
 
2012-09-14 01:12:37 PM  

Nurglitch: At this point one feels that the 'protesters' are just looking for an excuse.


It's what happens when you don't have an iPod or Xbox.
 
2012-09-14 01:12:47 PM  

WillyChase: rebelpride644: BMulligan: The Dog Ate The Constitution: Can't bomb these goat farkers fast enough.

The world will be a better place on the day that you leave it.

So it's ok for you to wish death on someone??

Uh, he didn't wish death on anyone. If you can't tell the difference between those two statements you quoted then maybe you should just sit your bad self down before you make yourself look stupid again.


Unless he is leaving this world in a farking spaceship they are both advocating another's death.
 
2012-09-14 01:13:24 PM  

grinding_journalist: markie_farkie: If Romney were Chancellor of Germany, none of this would have happened.

Kaiser. The term is "Kaiser".


forget it he's

puts on shade

on a roll
 
2012-09-14 01:14:25 PM  
I have a hard time believing that all of this is over some video clip. There is a whole lot of hateful stuff out there on the internet every single day. What was different this week?

The whole thing stinks of astroturf, I tells ya.
 
2012-09-14 01:15:25 PM  
So let's see:

1. Some members of the Coptic diaspora and right-wing Christians in the US film a movie in California called "Desert Warrior" with a budget of what looks like about $50.

2. They dub over some of the lines to add references to Muhammad and the Quran, and release a 13-minute trailer on the internet.

3. Muslims all over the world riot and attack embassies, killing multiple people, burning private businesses, and attacking embassies of random Western countries.

HUH?? HUH??? WTF is wrong with that region!
 
2012-09-14 01:15:31 PM  
This made me chuckle
assets.nydailynews.com
 
2012-09-14 01:16:12 PM  

Nurglitch: At this point one feels that the 'protesters' are just looking for an excuse.


After being shiat on by white people for 100 years or so, they probably have a problem with white people.
 
2012-09-14 01:17:05 PM  

12349876: styckx: 12349876: styckx: Is there a real source except U.S. media claiming it's this "film" as the reason for these protests? This seems more like an organized revolt against the U.S. then over some shiatty film. I mean fark there are probably 1000s of videos making fun of Islam.. Why does this one suddenly spark outrage?

Because an Egyptian talk show host discussed it on September 8.

And we all know what Glenn Beck did to a girl in 1990.. Why aren't we burning down Foxnews Embassies?

I was only answering the "why did it spark outrage" part. An obsure, barely seen Youtube video gets shown on Egyptian TV by a radical Islamist talk show host and that's why it's an "outrage" and other videos still in intertube obscurity are not.


The talk show and the rumors that surrounded this movie state that the United States authorized this movie and showed it to all Americans, nationwide, on American TV (implicitly understood to be state-television)

Of course nothing of the sort like that happened. it is absurd to us. But not to people living in third world countries with only secondhand or thirdhand internet access. Not to people living in an echo-chamber where the US Govt. is the big bad that is cause of their poverty.


The people that are protesting are obviously a minority of the population. nothing like the scale you have seen in the Egyptian Arab spring protests. These are the people that agree with the lies the fundamentalists put out and they're being played by them. The fury they're showing is not from this one incident. It is from a perceived lifetime of slights, insults, and damage from the US.
 
2012-09-14 01:17:59 PM  

xalres: I'm usually the most libby lib that ever libbed but I'm starting to wonder why we bother to take these people seriously. If they can't stand having a movie even exist that makes fun of them without storming embassies and killing people well...fark em. Respect is earned.


I'm just waiting for Mel Gibson to come out with The Passion of the Prophet for Little Girls.

/let's have blasphemy with high production values.
 
2012-09-14 01:18:45 PM  

Need_MindBleach: HUH?? HUH??? WTF is wrong with that region!


They just read this magazine.
www.debate.org
 
2012-09-14 01:19:02 PM  

Boojum2k: Iran


That's hilarious!
 
2012-09-14 01:19:51 PM  
Ya know, this anti-muslim video would have quickly faded into obscurity if it weren't for all the rage and violence against it. I wonder if the extremists realize how much free publicity they're giving the makers of the film?
 
2012-09-14 01:20:00 PM  

TrollingForColumbine: grinding_journalist: markie_farkie: If Romney were Chancellor of Germany, none of this would have happened.

Kaiser. The term is "Kaiser".

forget it he's

puts on shade

on a roll


HA!!
 
2012-09-14 01:20:14 PM  

halfof33: Lets see what world hide and seek champion and free speech advocate Julian Assange has to say:

"By the US accepting the UK siege on the Ecuadorian embassy in London it gave tacit approval for attacks on embassies around the world."

The take away from this is that Julian once again exposes himself as one of the worst people in the world.


Correct. We should only support sieges on embassies when they are done by other white people.
 
2012-09-14 01:21:08 PM  
I really wish the way I saw the world was so simple that most any problem like this could be fixed with more bombs. Or invading another country. Oh wait, no I don't, because realizing that there are incredibly complicated nuances that play into any geopolitical situation makes why things like this happen a more clear. Also, if your Weeners to violence is to respond with more violence then you don't seem that unlike these "animals" to me anyway.

/But the Iranians stormed our embassy in 1979 because they hated our freedoms, right? 
//Nothing happened before that, they just really hated our freedoms
 
2012-09-14 01:23:23 PM  

XMark: Ya know, this anti-muslim video would have quickly faded into obscurity if it weren't for all the rage and violence against it. I wonder if the extremists realize how much free publicity they're giving the makers of the film?


The true extremists (charlatan leaders) probably want every single muslim person on the planet to see it. It makes great radicalization fodder. It quickly sieves away the idiot muslims from the rational calm ones and throws them into the streets.
 
2012-09-14 01:24:39 PM  

mantabulous: This made me chuckle
[assets.nydailynews.com image 635x422]


I'm guessing that the guy just to the right of the fire is a Texas Longhorns fan?
 
2012-09-14 01:24:43 PM  

The_Sponge: Walker: Close our embassies and don't give one more penny to these countries that hate us and want to kill us. We gave billions to Pakistan while they hid Bin laden for a decade. And if you think Pakistan didn't know he was there I have a bridge to sell you.


I trust Pakistan as far as I can throw it.


With your bad back, you shouldn't be throwing anyone.

yeah, i went there.
 
2012-09-14 01:27:00 PM  

Source4leko: I really wish the way I saw the world was so simple that most any problem like this could be fixed with more bombs. Or invading another country. Oh wait, no I don't, because realizing that there are incredibly complicated nuances that play into any geopolitical situation makes why things like this happen a more clear. Also, if your Weeners to violence is to respond with more violence then you don't seem that unlike these "animals" to me anyway.

/But the Iranians stormed our embassy in 1979 because they hated our freedoms, right? 
//Nothing happened before that, they just really hated our freedoms


You're an idiot. A few thousand people rioting means we should bomb one quarter of the seven billion people on the planet.

Only way to be sure.
 
2012-09-14 01:27:05 PM  

Esc7: XMark: Ya know, this anti-muslim video would have quickly faded into obscurity if it weren't for all the rage and violence against it. I wonder if the extremists realize how much free publicity they're giving the makers of the film?

The true extremists (charlatan leaders) probably want every single muslim person on the planet to see it. It makes great radicalization fodder. It quickly sieves away the idiot muslims from the rational calm ones and throws them into the streets.


I've been wondering - how do you say "Teabagger" in Arabic?
 
2012-09-14 01:27:23 PM  

soporific: Kuroshin: It's obvious at this point that none of this has anything to do with Islamic outrage over a video. These are all happening in a coordinated fashion, hitting the same targets. The fact that this all started around September 11 is just blatant.

There is no pretending this to be random acts of violence. A singular entity is behind this. Either a coordinated terrorist organization, or a government wanting to spark more direct conflict across Africa and the ME is orchestrating these "protests."

Agreed. I think they might also be doing it to make Obama look bad because he's made a point to actually target the terrorists. They want Republicans back in place who will then ignore Al Qaeda and instead invade somewhere else. They want people in power who actually resemble anti-American propaganda. They want another 8 years of George W. Bush. At least, Bin Ladin did.

Or it could be a way to get people riled up and willing to listen to the more radical elements. They might be afraid that more and more people are rejecting the radical way, and this is a way to try to bring them back by whipping up an imagined or overblown slight. (It worked for the Tea Party in 2009, with the health care town halls) So this could also be a way of getting people on board. It also proves that what Obama is doing over there is working.

And it could be both, who knows. But the fact that it started on September 11th is no coincidence. This is a planned series of events, and it shows just how desperate they are, whoever is behind it.


I think a lot that depends on what you think Obama is trying to do.
 
2012-09-14 01:28:04 PM  

Blue_Blazer: Correct. We should only support sieges on embassies when they are done by other white people.


Lulz, a couple cops outside the Embassy in Knightsbridge = attacking the US Embassy with RPG's and killing four people.

"Siege."

I guess we found Julian's fark handle! Post something funny again.
 
2012-09-14 01:29:14 PM  
Sure, go annoy the Germans.

That has worked out so well in the past.
 
2012-09-14 01:29:37 PM  

BMulligan: I've been wondering - how do you say "Teabagger" in Arabic?


It is a term used by homosexuals and would quickly get you beheaded.
 
2012-09-14 01:29:56 PM  
The obscure California-made film triggered an attack on the U.S. consulate in Libya's city of Benghazi
that killed the U.S. ambassador and three other Americans on Tuesday, the anniversary of the Sept 11,
2001 al Qaeda attacks on the United States.

In Tunis, at least five people were wounded by police gunfire near the U.S. embassy, and a Reuters reporter
said a big fire had erupted within the embassy compound. Protesters had earlier leapt over the compound wall.

Witnesses said Sudanese police fired tear gas at thousands of protesters to stop them approaching the U.S.
embassy outside Khartoum, but some jumped over the wall. A Reuters reporter heard gunfire from the scene.


i.imgur.com
 
2012-09-14 01:30:09 PM  

Walker: American mentality: free speech

Middle East mentality: say something I disagree with and I will kill anyone from your country or even allies of your country and then burn down my own city. That will learn you.

Close our embassies and don't give one more penny to these countries that hate us and want to kill us. We gave billions to Pakistan while they hid Bin laden for a decade. And if you think Pakistan didn't know he was there I have a bridge to sell you.


I'm okay with this. These bastards really hate us that much, pull EVERYTHING American out of those countries and let them stand on their own two atrophied legs. They'll be crawling back before Obama's second term is over, I guarantee it.
 
2012-09-14 01:30:58 PM  

ObscureNameHere: Sure, go annoy the Germans.

That has worked out so well in the past.


It's time, once again, to trot out my favorite Tom Lehrer quote:

Once all the German were warlike, and mean
But that couldn't happen again.
We taught them a lesson in 1918
And they've hardly bothered us since then
 
2012-09-14 01:33:40 PM  
This is about anti-western bigotry. They don't give a shiat about who released it. All they care about is that someone from the west released it.
 
2012-09-14 01:33:46 PM  
If there were a Death Star, I wonder if it could just singe a certain part of the planet, without going full Alderaan.
 
2012-09-14 01:35:04 PM  

ObscureNameHere: Sure, go annoy the Germans.

That has worked out so well in the past.



Once all the Germans
Were warlike and mean
But that couldn't happen again
We taught them a lesson in 1918
And they've hardly bothered us since then!
 
2012-09-14 01:35:38 PM  

smitty04: BMulligan: I've been wondering - how do you say "Teabagger" in Arabic?

It is a term used by homosexuals and would quickly get you beheaded.


First of all, if you think only gay men get teabagged you're definitely doing it wrong.

Second, who knew this guy was gay?

a57.foxnews.com
 
2012-09-14 01:36:05 PM  
BMulligan

I knew I had you favorited for a reason!
 
2012-09-14 01:37:48 PM  
Whether Iran was actually involved in instigating protests and attacks or not, the whole situation does benefit them. A few days ago Iran was more isolated from its neighbors with respect to nuclear weapons and a possible war with Israel. Now the Muslim populations of many nations are practically unified in fury against the West. They're not unified specifically in support of Iran, but if Israel attacked Iran right now, it seems clear to me that the hordes or rioters would go even more ape-shiat in their anti-West and anti-Israel fury.
 
2012-09-14 01:38:18 PM  
Hey! Why don't we just come home and offer money to whomever sails a boat of oil to our ports? What do we care if some finger wipe moslem or thumb wipe moslem is on top over there? They can pretty much entertain themselves I do believe.
 
2012-09-14 01:39:05 PM  

Wooly Bully: BMulligan

I knew I had you favorited for a reason!


Great minds, and all.
 
2012-09-14 01:39:09 PM  
Brown people angry, news at 11
 
2012-09-14 01:39:46 PM  
BRING ME THE HEAD OF GENERAL GORDON!
 
2012-09-14 01:39:57 PM  

TrixieDelite: P.S. And don't any of you have JOBS? Sheeesh.


And therein actually is most of the reason for these type of protests, at least the root cause. There is massive unemployment in Iran, Egypt, Saudi Arabia and several other (heck, most other?) middle-eastern countries right now. This allows for extremism to easily take root in disaffected youth and you are seeing the outcome of it.... 'It's the west causing our troubles! Burn them!' and that kind of thing.

Instead of propping up governments in the region, we should be propping up the people. Get everyone working and happy and they won't have time or care to protest. You could hear this kind of attitude from the working classes in Egypt during the uprising, basically everyone whom already had a job going 'I just want to get back to work'.
 
2012-09-14 01:40:01 PM  
Subby thinks that the other protesters are doing it right?

Do German embassies really have any less to do with this video than American ones, do?

Or is he suggesting that we should throw out the First Amendment and be more like Germany and Afghanistan?
 
2012-09-14 01:40:33 PM  

Trilithon: I still say a couple smallish nukes wrapped in bacon a couple days ago and this would have ended there.


Jim Gaffigan approves.
 
2012-09-14 01:40:44 PM  

BMFPitt: Do German embassies really have any less to do with this video than American ones, do?


I have no idea where that comma came from.
 
2012-09-14 01:41:01 PM  
You gotta give it to Al Qaeda, they've been looking for a way to hit us hard and then this video came along. They popped smoke, hit us hard and got an Ambassador and then got us to get pissed at all Muslims. Brilliant.
 
2012-09-14 01:45:42 PM  

alexanderplatz: Whether Iran was actually involved in instigating protests and attacks or not, the whole situation does benefit them. A few days ago Iran was more isolated from its neighbors with respect to nuclear weapons and a possible war with Israel. Now the Muslim populations of many nations are practically unified in fury against the West. They're not unified specifically in support of Iran, but if Israel attacked Iran right now, it seems clear to me that the hordes or rioters would go even more ape-shiat in their anti-West and anti-Israel fury.


I don't think for a moment that Iran is behind this because I don't think they have the capability to pull it off. You're right, though - it definitely works to their advantage.

In an odd way, it probably works to everyone's advantage (except for the dead people of course). An Israeli strike on Iran would be an international disaster of unthinkable proportion, and the current situation makes that virtually impossible for the reasons you've cited. It sucks to watch this sort of senseless violence breaking out in so much of the world, and the deaths of those who were killed in the consulate attack are terrible and tragic, but in the long run it may turn out that this was paradoxically a good thing.
 
2012-09-14 01:45:56 PM  

Tat'dGreaser: You gotta give it to Al Qaeda, they've been looking for a way to hit us hard and then this video came along. They popped smoke, hit us hard and got an Ambassador and then got us to get pissed at all Muslims. Brilliant.


Thank FSM we have an actual grownup in the White House. I shudder to think of what our response might be otherwise.
 
2012-09-14 01:46:17 PM  

WillyChase: rebelpride644: BMulligan: The Dog Ate The Constitution: Can't bomb these goat farkers fast enough.

The world will be a better place on the day that you leave it.

So it's ok for you to wish death on someone??

Uh, he didn't wish death on anyone. If you can't tell the difference between those two statements you quoted then maybe you should just sit your bad self down before you make yourself look stupid again.


Right, he was advocating using glitter bombs I'm sure.
 
2012-09-14 01:47:11 PM  
i259.photobucket.com
 
2012-09-14 01:47:14 PM  

Wooly Bully: Tat'dGreaser: You gotta give it to Al Qaeda, they've been looking for a way to hit us hard and then this video came along. They popped smoke, hit us hard and got an Ambassador and then got us to get pissed at all Muslims. Brilliant.

Thank FSM we have an actual grownup in the White House. I shudder to think of what our response might be otherwise.


I'm guessing Mushroom clouds. Lots of them.
 
2012-09-14 01:47:59 PM  
These aren't protests, these are mobs of violent theocrats.
 
2012-09-14 01:48:16 PM  

Need_MindBleach: So let's see:

1. Some members of the Coptic diaspora and right-wing Christians in the US film a movie in California called "Desert Warrior" with a budget of what looks like about $50.

2. They dub over some of the lines to add references to Muhammad and the Quran, and release a 13-minute trailer on the internet.

3. Muslims all over the world riot and attack embassies, killing multiple people, burning private businesses, and attacking embassies of random Western countries.

HUH?? HUH??? WTF is wrong with that region!


It's hot, and there's no water.
 
2012-09-14 01:48:27 PM  

Blue_Blazer: WillyChase: rebelpride644: BMulligan: The Dog Ate The Constitution: Can't bomb these goat farkers fast enough.

The world will be a better place on the day that you leave it.

So it's ok for you to wish death on someone??

Uh, he didn't wish death on anyone. If you can't tell the difference between those two statements you quoted then maybe you should just sit your bad self down before you make yourself look stupid again.

Right, he was advocating using glitter bombs I'm sure.


I was advocating patience. That, and a well-planned celebration when th moment finally arrives of its own accord.
 
2012-09-14 01:49:10 PM  

druiid: Get everyone working and happy and they won't have time or care to protest.


Consumer debt is the answer to unrest.
If they had more debt, they would shut up and go to work.
 
2012-09-14 01:52:52 PM  

smitty04: [img.photobucket.com image 456x386]


You're really emotionally invested in this whole "holy war" concept, I'm guessing.
 
2012-09-14 01:53:03 PM  

Bashar and Asma's Infinite Playlist: They sure do idolize the guy they aren't allowed to depict because they might fall into idolatry.



I suspect that the irony would be lost on them, and you'd be greeted with a dead-eyed stare. Also, death.
 
2012-09-14 01:54:17 PM  

BMulligan: Blue_Blazer: WillyChase: rebelpride644: BMulligan: The Dog Ate The Constitution: Can't bomb these goat farkers fast enough.

The world will be a better place on the day that you leave it.

So it's ok for you to wish death on someone??

Uh, he didn't wish death on anyone. If you can't tell the difference between those two statements you quoted then maybe you should just sit your bad self down before you make yourself look stupid again.

Right, he was advocating using glitter bombs I'm sure.

I was advocating patience. That, and a well-planned celebration when th moment finally arrives of its own accord.


So... can we celebrate with glitter bombs?
 
2012-09-14 01:54:35 PM  
Because muslim need hate speech for senseless violence and murder. Yea right.
 
2012-09-14 01:54:58 PM  

smitty04: Need_MindBleach: HUH?? HUH??? WTF is wrong with that region!

They just read this magazine.
[www.debate.org image 471x650]


Obama the best friend of Israel?
Total nonsense.

/That's why the Mossad funded this video.
//Bebe Netanyahu hates Obiwan.
///Obama rejected Bebe's Red Line demand over Iran.
 
2012-09-14 01:56:36 PM  

Blue_Blazer: So... can we celebrate with glitter bombs?


Sounds fabulous.
 
2012-09-14 01:58:22 PM  

BMulligan: I don't think for a moment that Iran is behind this because I don't think they have the capability to pull it off. You're right, though - it definitely works to their advantage.

In an odd way, it probably works to everyone's advantage (except for the dead people of course). An Israeli strike on Iran would be an international disaster of unthinkable proportion, and the current situation makes that virtually impossible for the reasons you've cited. It sucks to watch this sort of senseless violence breaking out in so much of the world, and the deaths of those who were killed in the consulate attack are terrible and tragic, but in the long run it may turn out that this was paradoxically a good thing.


Eh. Don't forget why Israel's talking about the war--they don't want a nuclear Iran. While I'm not so certain a nuclear Iran is the hideous boogieman many nations have claimed it would be, there's a lot of room for that to have a negative impact on the world. This doesn't slow Iran's move towards nuclear armament, and that's going to be the instigator for future violence--and I do believe Israel believes it can't survive Iran with the Bomb, which means they'll risk all-war with everyone because they might have a chance then, and won't if Iran succeeds.

This might actually be worse because if Israel and Iran go to war, more people will get involved.
 
2012-09-14 01:58:43 PM  

Kuroshin: It's obvious at this point that none of this has anything to do with Islamic outrage over a video. These are all happening in a coordinated fashion, hitting the same targets. The fact that this all started around September 11 is just blatant.

There is no pretending this to be random acts of violence. A singular entity is behind this. Either a coordinated terrorist organization, or a government wanting to spark more direct conflict across Africa and the ME is orchestrating these "protests."



static.guim.co.uk

I think you meant to say "Romney Campaign".


This is the GOP's October Surprise.

And how many Americans will be murdered as a result? We'll have to wait and see.
 
2012-09-14 02:00:21 PM  
Stricter? As in Germany has hate speech laws, US doesn't?
 
2012-09-14 02:00:32 PM  
www.blogcdn.com

All this over some jerk insulting Muhammad?

I didn't know that they were boxing fans!
 
2012-09-14 02:00:36 PM  

TrixieDelite: FTFA:
Two Islamist preachers in Egypt told worshippers that those who made the movie deserved to die under sharia (Islamic law)

Okay, worshippers of Islam, here's the deal: AMERICANS DO NOT OPERATE UNDER ISLAMIC LAW. We operate under another set of laws, commonly framed within a little document we call The Constitution. We don't operate under your laws in our country. And you may note that when your people come to OUR country, we acknowledge your right to dress according to your traditions, eat according to your traditions, and worship according to your traditions--even though you're in a country that doesn't share those traditions.

While I do not agree with the making of the movie, I support the rights of those who made it. It was made in America, and the only reason you folks know anything about it is because of the Internet, which was also invented in America. And you're watching it on computers, which are an American invention as well.

So take your sorry-ass protests and shove them up your hairy asses. We'll gladly take our Embassies, our aid, human rights groups and political persuasions out of your backwater countries.

P.S. And don't any of you have JOBS? Sheeesh.


I like you.
 
2012-09-14 02:01:18 PM  
I'm so glad to see so many of you advocating the murder of innocents as a way to get vengeance for these mobs. It's almost as if you think we should judge an entire region based on the actions of a few.
Almost like you think just like the mob.
 
2012-09-14 02:02:29 PM  

halfof33: Lets see what world hide and seek champion and free speech advocate Julian Assange has to say:

"By the US accepting the UK siege on the Ecuadorian embassy in London it gave tacit approval for attacks on embassies around the world."

The take away from this is that Julian once again exposes himself as one of the worst people in the world.




Its called "blowback".

Oh, wait, you argument is that Its ok if we do something to someone else, but its not ok if someone else does it to us.
 
2012-09-14 02:02:38 PM  

markie_farkie: If Romney were Chancellor of Germany, none of this would have happened.


...and we're done.
 
2012-09-14 02:03:45 PM  

Wooly Bully: Thank FSM we have an actual grownup in the White House. I shudder to think of what our response might be otherwise.


He's sending Special Forces to invade a foreign country
 
2012-09-14 02:04:25 PM  

Joe Peanut: Stricter? As in Germany has hate speech laws, US doesn't?



YET.

The ADL has been working for decades to change that.
 
2012-09-14 02:05:14 PM  
Were the Prophet Muhammad around today, I think he'd be terribly disappointed in his followers. Even more so than Jesus would be were he around today. I imagine this scenario where Jesus and Muhammad would be sitting around at a bar lamenting about how idiotic their respective followers are. Though I think Muhammad would have slightly more to biatch about in that particular situation.
 
2012-09-14 02:05:25 PM  
Dear Subby,

America has no anti-hate speech laws, not "less strict".

signed,
Duh
 
2012-09-14 02:06:02 PM  

Blue_Blazer: I'm so glad to see so many of you advocating the murder of innocents as a way to get vengeance for these mobs. It's almost as if you think we should judge an entire region based on the actions of a few.
Almost like you think just like the mob.


Well revenge is the basis of religion, right?
Call all of this what it truly is.

/Become Muslim or pay extortion, since 603 A.D.
 
2012-09-14 02:06:26 PM  

rebelpride644: WillyChase: rebelpride644: BMulligan: The Dog Ate The Constitution: Can't bomb these goat farkers fast enough.

The world will be a better place on the day that you leave it.

So it's ok for you to wish death on someone??

Uh, he didn't wish death on anyone. If you can't tell the difference between those two statements you quoted then maybe you should just sit your bad self down before you make yourself look stupid again.

Unless he is leaving this world in a farking spaceship they are both advocating another's death.


If I say "The world will be a better place when Fred Phelps leaves it" it doesn't mean I wish for Fred Phelps to die, just that when he's gone the world will be a better place.

If I say "Can't bomb these westborough farkers fast enough" it means I wish for them to be killed by a bomb.

See the difference Rebel Pride?
 
2012-09-14 02:07:32 PM  

Ow! That was my feelings!: Dear Subby,

America has no anti-hate speech laws, not "less strict".

signed,
Duh


But we have "hate crime" laws. That's why the Justice Dept. is investigating our buddy Sambecile.
His speech may be protected, but he is not.
Hard life.
 
2012-09-14 02:07:51 PM  

tortilla burger: Jesus and Muhammad would be sitting around at a bar lamenting about how idiotic their respective followers are. Though I think Muhammad would have slightly more to biatch about in that particular situation.


I picture them leaving that bar in two ways: Jesus waves goodbye, then walks across the river to his house, and Mohammed blasts off into space or whatever.
 
2012-09-14 02:08:35 PM  
1.bp.blogspot.com
 
2012-09-14 02:09:06 PM  

foggie froggie: These protests may have been triggered by the movie, but I think we can safely conclude they are not about the movie.


This is what happens when half of the working age males in your country don't have jobs.
 
2012-09-14 02:09:21 PM  

Blue_Blazer: I'm so glad to see so many of you advocating the murder of innocents as a way to get vengeance for these mobs.


These folks would murder me and my children without so much as a second thought.
Why give them the benefit of the doubt.
Why?
 
2012-09-14 02:09:25 PM  

The Dog Ate The Constitution: Can't bomb these goat farkers fast enough.




Yes, lets start a war with every one of these countries that is protesting our embassies:

xtupload.com

You must be a quantum physicist and Yale graduate of the highest order.
 
2012-09-14 02:09:46 PM  

Bashar and Asma's Infinite Playlist: Artemus_Hackwell: That dirty little turd from CA that created it; who did so knowing the possible result...has he come forth with a motive? Financial sources?

The story at the moment is that the creator hates both Islam and the United States, and is part of a domestic hate group that wants to overthrow America and rebuild in its place a Christian theocracy to stand against the oncoming war against Islam. So he makes a video to inflame the Middle East into violence, who will them turn it against American interests abroad, weakening the American government for the eventual coup by he and his Christian soldiers. As for the financing, I haven't heard much about it.


Geez, crazy movie dude, the point of books like The Handmaid's Tale and was that they were social warnings, not a blueprint for action.
 
2012-09-14 02:11:06 PM  

Goodfella: The Dog Ate The Constitution: Can't bomb these goat farkers fast enough.



Yes, lets start a war with every one of these countries that is protesting our embassies:

[xtupload.com image 850x317]

You must be a quantum physicist and Yale graduate of the highest order.


Note that it's regional, not national in scope. Islam is a religion, not a government or political entity.
Starting a war against a religion is a religious war.

/Cant' have that unless it's a Muslim who declares the war, right?
 
2012-09-14 02:14:27 PM  

mantabulous: This made me chuckle
[assets.nydailynews.com image 635x422]


You know, the Germans really should just go insane again on them. No one's going to judge if they do this time.
 
2012-09-14 02:14:44 PM  

Lunchlady: foggie froggie: These protests may have been triggered by the movie, but I think we can safely conclude they are not about the movie.

This is what happens when half of the working age males in your country don't have jobs.


Engineer the solution:
1) More consumer debt.
2) Get them laid much more often.
 
2012-09-14 02:16:04 PM  

HotIgneous Intruder: Blue_Blazer: I'm so glad to see so many of you advocating the murder of innocents as a way to get vengeance for these mobs.

These folks would murder me and my children without so much as a second thought.
Why give them the benefit of the doubt.
Why?


All of them would? Every one?
Man, I've got some painting to do, it sure would go quicker if I had one of those massively broad brushes you use for painting.
What a sad child you must be, living in a world where literally billions of people want to kill you.
 
2012-09-14 02:17:27 PM  
I am sure this was mentioned elsewhere but the attack on the German embassy was because of supposed anti-Islam graffiti on mosques in Germany, which I could totally believe because graffiti seems to be more popular here than in America. It was a popular Sheik or Cleric that issued the statement over radio.. he said to storm the Germany Embassy followed by the American embassy.
 
2012-09-14 02:17:53 PM  

thunderbird8804: These aren't protests, these are mobs of violent theocrats.

 
2012-09-14 02:18:16 PM  

HotIgneous Intruder: These folks would murder me and my children without so much as a second thought.


You believe that everyone in the countries where these protests are occurring would murder you and your children without so much as a second thought? Because that's what you would have to believe to justify a full-scale military response, which is how I interpret exhortations to begin bombing.
 
2012-09-14 02:18:58 PM  

Tat'dGreaser: Wooly Bully: Thank FSM we have an actual grownup in the White House. I shudder to think of what our response might be otherwise.

He's sending Special Forces to invade a foreign country


In the reality-based community, sending Marines to secure an embassy after it's been attacked with RPGs isn't considered "invading a foreign country".
 
2012-09-14 02:20:01 PM  

HotIgneous Intruder: Ow! That was my feelings!: Dear Subby,

America has no anti-hate speech laws, not "less strict".

signed,
Duh

But we have "hate crime" laws. That's why the Justice Dept. is investigating our buddy Sambecile.
His speech may be protected, but he is not.
Hard life.


I understand they are looking into the guy, but "hate crime" is a sentence "enhancer", not an actual crime. He will not face charges because his speech is protected by the first amendment. There is no initial crime for the hate crime enhancer to be used.
 
2012-09-14 02:21:02 PM  

HotIgneous Intruder: These folks would murder me and my children without so much as a second thought.
Why give them the benefit of the doubt.
Why?


Do you know what 'begging the question' is?
 
2012-09-14 02:22:04 PM  

Wooly Bully: In the reality-based community, sending Marines to secure an embassy after it's been attacked with RPGs isn't considered "invading a foreign country".


Read the article more
 
2012-09-14 02:23:01 PM  

BMulligan: HotIgneous Intruder: These folks would murder me and my children without so much as a second thought.

You believe that everyone in the countries where these protests are occurring would murder you and your children without so much as a second thought? Because that's what you would have to believe to justify a full-scale military response, which is how I interpret exhortations to begin bombing.


The Islamists would. And no, I didn't say that would justify a full-scale anything, since the US and A! doesn't have a full-scale military to take out the trash with anymore, let alone invade any place at all. But I digress. One nuke on Mecca and Media each would probably send an emphatic message, but it would also be a little over the top. Islam is an expansionist religion, now practiced by one quarter of the world's population. Just live and let live and enjoy your caliphate. And pay your jizya.
 
2012-09-14 02:23:49 PM  
Is it possible that all the boasting about killing Osama by Obama is causing all the hatred.
 
2012-09-14 02:23:50 PM  

a21ozcoldcup: It was a popular Sheik or Cleric that issued the statement over radio.. he said to storm the Germany Embassy


assets0.ordienetworks.com


If these "Gods" are sooo cool and sooo powerful, why the fark don't they defend their own reputations?


/Religious fanatics are farktards
//And should be pitied
///Posthumously
 
2012-09-14 02:24:04 PM  

palelizard: HotIgneous Intruder: These folks would murder me and my children without so much as a second thought.
Why give them the benefit of the doubt.
Why?

Do you know what 'begging the question' is?


Yeah. Better not do that. At least not here.
 
2012-09-14 02:25:06 PM  

Bashar and Asma's Infinite Playlist: tortilla burger: Jesus and Muhammad would be sitting around at a bar lamenting about how idiotic their respective followers are. Though I think Muhammad would have slightly more to biatch about in that particular situation.

I picture them leaving that bar in two ways: Jesus waves goodbye, then walks across the river to his house, and Mohammed blasts off into space or whatever.


I figured it would be like this:

http://5secondfilms.com/watch/windy_city_slurpee_run
 
2012-09-14 02:25:21 PM  

Tat'dGreaser: Wooly Bully: In the reality-based community, sending Marines to secure an embassy after it's been attacked with RPGs isn't considered "invading a foreign country".

Read the article more


There's no invasion in that article.
 
2012-09-14 02:26:37 PM  
If anyone's surprised, I'd like to remind you that America has spent the past fifty years propping up a country with the manners of Hulk on steroid smoothies and spent the past twenty years in two wars that caused thousands of civilian casualties, major human rights violations, stomped all over the idea of the Arab League's rights to deal with the ME their own way, left two countries in shambles, and opened up the idea that America can attack anyone, anywhere, without any consequences.

Yeah. I am Jack's complete and utter lack of shock right about now.
 
2012-09-14 02:26:57 PM  

John Henry Eden: Oh, wait, you argument is that Its ok if we do something to someone else, but its not ok if someone else does it to us.

"oh wait." You KNOW that when an argument opens with "oh wait" that it is going to be rock farking solid. I think Cicero devoted an entire god damn chapter to it.

Alas my argument is that Assange's tweet comparing his situation to a siege, and implying that it justifies attacking the embassies and murder is not only so self-absorbed as to be pathetic, it is utterly ludicrous.

"Oh wait" did the Brits hit the Embassy with a rocket propelled grenade? Because they would have to for your argument to even approach making sense.
 
2012-09-14 02:27:23 PM  

Wooly Bully: There's no invasion in that article.


Sending in SF could be taken as an "invasion", that's my point.
 
2012-09-14 02:28:09 PM  

Ow! That was my feelings!: HotIgneous Intruder: Ow! That was my feelings!: Dear Subby,

America has no anti-hate speech laws, not "less strict".

signed,
Duh

But we have "hate crime" laws. That's why the Justice Dept. is investigating our buddy Sambecile.
His speech may be protected, but he is not.
Hard life.

I understand they are looking into the guy, but "hate crime" is a sentence "enhancer", not an actual crime. He will not face charges because his speech is protected by the first amendment. There is no initial crime for the hate crime enhancer to be used.


United States Federal law addresses hate crimes and provides penalties:
18 USC § 249 - Hate crime acts
As I keep saying, his speech is protected, but he is not.
 
2012-09-14 02:30:22 PM  
Yes, Germany is very strict about these things. There you can only refer to them as Sand N!gg3rs.
 
2012-09-14 02:32:33 PM  
what utterly contemptible cultures
 
2012-09-14 02:33:58 PM  

RumsfeldsReplacement: Can we please stop giving these animals money now?


bears_repeating.jpg
 
2012-09-14 02:33:59 PM  

HotIgneous Intruder: BMulligan: HotIgneous Intruder: These folks would murder me and my children without so much as a second thought.

You believe that everyone in the countries where these protests are occurring would murder you and your children without so much as a second thought? Because that's what you would have to believe to justify a full-scale military response, which is how I interpret exhortations to begin bombing.

The Islamists would. And no, I didn't say that would justify a full-scale anything, since the US and A! doesn't have a full-scale military to take out the trash with anymore, let alone invade any place at all. But I digress. One nuke on Mecca and Media each would probably send an emphatic message, but it would also be a little over the top. Islam is an expansionist religion, now practiced by one quarter of the world's population. Just live and let live and enjoy your caliphate. And pay your jizya.


I feel so badly for you. It must be awful to be such a pants-wetting pussy.
 
2012-09-14 02:34:19 PM  

PsiChick: If anyone's surprised, I'd like to remind you that America has spent the past fifty years propping up a country with the manners of Hulk on steroid smoothies and spent the past twenty years in two wars that caused thousands of civilian casualties, major human rights violations, stomped all over the idea of the Arab League's rights to deal with the ME their own way, left two countries in shambles, and opened up the idea that America can attack anyone, anywhere, without any consequences.

Yeah. I am Jack's complete and utter lack of shock right about now.


Wow, a libtard making about justifications and excuses for violance against America.

Yeah. I am Jack's complete and utter lack of shock right about now.

Hey, you missed the fact that America was wearing a really tight skirt, and was just BEGGING for it.
 
2012-09-14 02:34:56 PM  

BMulligan: I feel so badly for you. It must be awful to be such a pants-wetting pussy.


So go fight them. That's kind of my point.
I think you missed it.
 
2012-09-14 02:35:11 PM  
Seriously...where does all this shiat end. My Facebook page is blowing up with everyone yelling war. War? With who? The protesters in these dozen countries or so? The government of these countries? Islam as a whole?

Let's just assume we identify a target and we do go to war. We send our planes over. Our men (and women) over. We blow some shiat up. We shoot some people dead. We capture some people and put them on trial and execute them. We install a democratic government. Then what? We go home and these countries are in the same farked up American hating state there were just before we arrived.

I'm not try to be a tree hugging hippy here because this dumb ass shiat pisses me off as much as anyone else. I'm just saying unless our goals are to: a.) blow the entire place up for good. or b.) install some concentration camps over there and brainwash every muslim into loving America then we're not going to accomplish shiat but going to war in a traditional sense.
 
2012-09-14 02:35:16 PM  

WillyChase: rebelpride644: WillyChase: rebelpride644: BMulligan: The Dog Ate The Constitution: Can't bomb these goat farkers fast enough.

The world will be a better place on the day that you leave it.

So it's ok for you to wish death on someone??

Uh, he didn't wish death on anyone. If you can't tell the difference between those two statements you quoted then maybe you should just sit your bad self down before you make yourself look stupid again.

Unless he is leaving this world in a farking spaceship they are both advocating another's death.

If I say "The world will be a better place when Fred Phelps leaves it" it doesn't mean I wish for Fred Phelps to die, just that when he's gone the world will be a better place.

If I say "Can't bomb these westborough farkers fast enough" it means I wish for them to be killed by a bomb.

See the difference Rebel Pride?


I understand the difference...my point was that the underlying goal of both statements is the same.

Also, thanks for bringing up my Login as if that invalidates my argument.
 
2012-09-14 02:35:48 PM  

BMulligan: HotIgneous Intruder: These folks would murder me and my children without so much as a second thought.

You believe that everyone in the countries where these protests are occurring would murder you and your children without so much as a second thought? Because that's what you would have to believe to justify a full-scale military response, which is how I interpret exhortations to begin bombing.


It's pretty sad when we have to look to W as a good example of a neocon who didn't support the wholesale slaughter of Muslims.
 
2012-09-14 02:37:52 PM  

HotIgneous Intruder: Ow! That was my feelings!: HotIgneous Intruder: Ow! That was my feelings!: Dear Subby,

America has no anti-hate speech laws, not "less strict".

signed,
Duh

But we have "hate crime" laws. That's why the Justice Dept. is investigating our buddy Sambecile.
His speech may be protected, but he is not.
Hard life.

I understand they are looking into the guy, but "hate crime" is a sentence "enhancer", not an actual crime. He will not face charges because his speech is protected by the first amendment. There is no initial crime for the hate crime enhancer to be used.

United States Federal law addresses hate crimes and provides penalties:
18 USC § 249 - Hate crime acts
As I keep saying, his speech is protected, but he is not.


I guess I'm dense today, but I'm not getting your "he is not" protected comment. The code you linked too clearly states "willfully causes bodily injury" or attempts to do so. I haven't seen the trailer, but from what I've read there is no direct threats made and obviously no direct violence. So, his speech and his freedom to be a dick are protected by the first.
 
2012-09-14 02:38:47 PM  

12349876: An obsure, barely seen Youtube video gets shown on Egyptian TV by a radical Islamist talk show host and that's why it's an "outrage" and other videos still in intertube obscurity are not.


These protests just make me want to seek out and watch said movie. Haven't they heard of the Streisand effect? This isn't Arab Spring - it's just more Eternal September.
 
2012-09-14 02:38:59 PM  
If your neighbors were rioting, murdering foreign diplomats in your town, would you take any action, directly, or politically? I would, most of us would I am sure. We don't like murder and terrorism here.

Why don't all these other countries do the same? Because they don't really mind it. That is the difference between us and them. We are moral people as a whole, they are not.
 
2012-09-14 02:40:07 PM  

BMulligan: alexanderplatz: Whether Iran was actually involved in instigating protests and attacks or not, the whole situation does benefit them. A few days ago Iran was more isolated from its neighbors with respect to nuclear weapons and a possible war with Israel. Now the Muslim populations of many nations are practically unified in fury against the West. They're not unified specifically in support of Iran, but if Israel attacked Iran right now, it seems clear to me that the hordes or rioters would go even more ape-shiat in their anti-West and anti-Israel fury.

I don't think for a moment that Iran is behind this because I don't think they have the capability to pull it off. You're right, though - it definitely works to their advantage.

In an odd way, it probably works to everyone's advantage (except for the dead people of course). An Israeli strike on Iran would be an international disaster of unthinkable proportion, and the current situation makes that virtually impossible for the reasons you've cited. It sucks to watch this sort of senseless violence breaking out in so much of the world, and the deaths of those who were killed in the consulate attack are terrible and tragic, but in the long run it may turn out that this was paradoxically a good thing.


I'm wondering how hard you think it is to get a group of people who already hate everyone that isn't like them to protest in the streets?

I can get 100 people to do the hokey pokey at the mall in about 2hours.
 
2012-09-14 02:40:20 PM  

smitty04: [img.photobucket.com image 456x386]


Moderate Muslims, demonstrating for peace:

i.dailymail.co.uk
cdn.ph.upi.com
s3.amazonaws.com
 
2012-09-14 02:40:42 PM  

Ow! That was my feelings!: I guess I'm dense today, but I'm not getting your "he is not" protected comment. The code you linked too clearly states "willfully causes bodily injury" or attempts to do so. I haven't seen the trailer, but from what I've read there is no direct threats made and obviously no direct violence. So, his speech and his freedom to be a dick are protected by the first.


I get your point. I'm also saying that the guy is a convicted criminal on probation and if he violated his probation he's going to have a fun time back in the slammer with the sweet, polite sons of the Nation of Islam, Allah's own representatives of the religion of peace.
His speech is protected, but he is not.
 
2012-09-14 02:41:30 PM  

The Dog Ate The Constitution: Can't bomb these goat farkers fast enough.


Wouldn't say that in public in Germany if I were you.
 
2012-09-14 02:43:21 PM  

Thunderpipes: If your neighbors were rioting, murdering foreign diplomats in your town, would you take any action, directly, or politically? I would, most of us would I am sure. We don't like murder and terrorism here.

Why don't all these other countries do the same? Because they don't really mind it. That is the difference between us and them. We are moral people as a whole, they are not.


Because they are weak leaders with already tenuous grasps on leadership without needing to stir up a hornet's nest in their country? You really think the government of Uganda or the DRC is in a position to criticize a bunch of bored jobless Islamists? They are more concerned with increasing the life expectancy from 35 to 40. We're not talking about Australia here.
 
2012-09-14 02:43:44 PM  
My right to free speech is protected, but if I got to a drug corner in Baltimore and start preaching master race nonsense to the corner boys, my highbrow rights don't really apply after a point.
My speech is protected, but my ass is not.
 
2012-09-14 02:44:04 PM  

dehehn: smitty04: [img.photobucket.com image 456x386]

Moderate Muslims, demonstrating for peace:

[i.dailymail.co.uk image 850x538]
[cdn.ph.upi.com image 531x354]
[s3.amazonaws.com image 550x355]


And every one of them probably knows evil people, and just don't want to take action. It will take major political and spiritual change among those people. Chances of that happening are zero.

And it happens here too, look at the LA riots, and the riots that will happen when Zimmerman is cleared. Some people just won't change and have violence in them.
 
2012-09-14 02:44:55 PM  

druiid: Get everyone working and happy and they won't have time or care to protest. You could hear this kind of attitude from the working classes in Egypt the United States during the uprising the OWS protests, basically everyone whom already had a job going 'I just want to get back to work'.


Maybe someone should tell american corporations and wall street suits the same thing... before it's, you know, too late...
 
2012-09-14 02:45:09 PM  

TrixieDelite:

P.S. And don't any of you have JOBS? Sheeesh.


Actually they don't, and it's a big big problem. Youth unemployment in the middle east is like 50% or some shiat. That's a lot of young men with nothing to do but sweat in the heat and get angry. They can't even have a beer and go to a titty bar to blow off steam. And most of them still live at home with their mothers.

It's a riot waiting to happen all the damn time.
 
2012-09-14 02:46:32 PM  

Goodfella: The Dog Ate The Constitution: Can't bomb these goat farkers fast enough.



Yes, lets start a war with every one of these countries that is protesting our embassies:

[xtupload.com image 850x317]

You must be a quantum physicist and Yale graduate of the highest order.


While i don't advocate turning any country and it's population into a smoking crater WWII style, you would only have to do it to one country to get the others to calm their shiat down.
 
2012-09-14 02:49:27 PM  
If ridiculous, stupid, trolltastic crap that offends a person's most cherished beliefs sends the muslim world into this much of a frenzy what is going to happen when the arab translation of Fark's politics tab get out?
 
2012-09-14 02:50:42 PM  

Lunchlady: Thunderpipes: If your neighbors were rioting, murdering foreign diplomats in your town, would you take any action, directly, or politically? I would, most of us would I am sure. We don't like murder and terrorism here.

Why don't all these other countries do the same? Because they don't really mind it. That is the difference between us and them. We are moral people as a whole, they are not.

Because they are weak leaders with already tenuous grasps on leadership without needing to stir up a hornet's nest in their country? You really think the government of Uganda or the DRC is in a position to criticize a bunch of bored jobless Islamists? They are more concerned with increasing the life expectancy from 35 to 40. We're not talking about Australia here.


most of the year it's too cold to protest there.
 
2012-09-14 02:52:18 PM  

jaybeezey: While i don't advocate turning any country and it's population into a smoking crater WWII style, you would only have to do it to one country to get the others to calm their shiat down.


Wait - do you honestly believe that if the United States engaged in strategic bombing of any predominantly Muslim country over this incident, that the remaining 1.5 billion or so Muslims worldwide would "calm their shiat down?" Really?
 
2012-09-14 02:54:02 PM  

Bonzo_1116: Actually they don't, and it's a big big problem. Youth unemployment in the middle east is like 50% or some shiat. That's a lot of young men with nothing to do but sweat in the heat and get angry. They can't even have a beer and go to a titty bar to blow off steam. And most of them still live at home with their mothers.


I feel like a lot of the hard-line governments and fundies that curtail entertainment activities do it with the cynical aim of maintaining a perennial crop of always-frustrated young stooges.
 
2012-09-14 02:54:05 PM  

BMulligan: jaybeezey: While i don't advocate turning any country and it's population into a smoking crater WWII style, you would only have to do it to one country to get the others to calm their shiat down.

Wait - do you honestly believe that if the United States engaged in strategic bombing of any predominantly Muslim country over this incident, that the remaining 1.5 billion or so Muslims worldwide would "calm their shiat down?" Really?


A strategic strike would be glassifying Mecca, yes. The Saudis are our allies. They would understand.
 
2012-09-14 02:56:22 PM  

rwfan: If ridiculous, stupid, trolltastic crap that offends a person's most cherished beliefs sends the muslim world into this much of a frenzy what is going to happen when the arab translation of Fark's politics tab get out?


It's protected free speech. No worries.
 
2012-09-14 02:59:55 PM  
CNN is showing the dead American killed by protected speech coming home to Andrews AFB right now.
 
2012-09-14 03:00:32 PM  
Again, when I see muslims attacking stuff because of a cartoon or a movie, I can't help but think of a troop of monkeys at the zoo losing their shiat over a Coke can somebody dropped into the enclosure.
 
2012-09-14 03:01:50 PM  

DECMATH: 12349876: An obsure, barely seen Youtube video gets shown on Egyptian TV by a radical Islamist talk show host and that's why it's an "outrage" and other videos still in intertube obscurity are not.

These protests just make me want to seek out and watch said movie. Haven't they heard of the Streisand effect? This isn't Arab Spring - it's just more Eternal September.


The trailer is laughably bad. I feel bad for the "actors" in it. Terrible greenscreen effects, stick-on beards...but at least the donkey was real and brayed on cue.
 
2012-09-14 03:16:01 PM  

Thunderpipes: dehehn: smitty04: [img.photobucket.com image 456x386]

Moderate Muslims, demonstrating for peace:

[i.dailymail.co.uk image 850x538]
[cdn.ph.upi.com image 531x354]
[s3.amazonaws.com image 550x355]

And every one of them probably knows evil people, and just don't want to take action. It will take major political and spiritual change among those people. Chances of that happening are zero.

And it happens here too, look at the LA riots, and the riots that will happen when Zimmerman is cleared. Some people just won't change and have violence in them.


Listen here, Thunderlips, "spiritual change" is what causes clusterfarks like this in the first place. Maybe what the need is less religion, not just a different brand.
 
2012-09-14 03:18:56 PM  

halfof33: PsiChick: If anyone's surprised, I'd like to remind you that America has spent the past fifty years propping up a country with the manners of Hulk on steroid smoothies and spent the past twenty years in two wars that caused thousands of civilian casualties, major human rights violations, stomped all over the idea of the Arab League's rights to deal with the ME their own way, left two countries in shambles, and opened up the idea that America can attack anyone, anywhere, without any consequences.

Yeah. I am Jack's complete and utter lack of shock right about now.

Wow, a libtard making about justifications and excuses for violance against America.

Yeah. I am Jack's complete and utter lack of shock right about now.

Hey, you missed the fact that America was wearing a really tight skirt, and was just BEGGING for it.


The phrase 'strawman argument' is a name for a debating technique, when you claim that the other person said something that they did not, in fact, say. Now, you've used a brilliant example. Your argument here is that I am making justifications and excuses for the embassy attacks.

On its face, that argument is just stupid. I was talking about being unsurprised about the attacks, not about the morality of the attacks. But there's certainly a way for your argument to make complete sense, halfof33--if we assume, as so many people do, that when you say 'that serial killer has schizophrenia', it's another way of saying 'that serial killer should be let off all charges'.

This is another common debating technique that relies on complete and utter idiocy, although I don't know if it has a formal name. If I understand that X + 3 =23, therefore X = 20, does that mean I think X is a ridiculous number for cupcakes served to one child? Of course not. I may believe both separately, but knowing that X = 20 doesn't have a damn thing to do with cupcakes. In more accurate terms, knowledge itself does not require specific action.

In simple English, when you understand that X = 20, you are not required to do a damn thing with knowing that. And that means that, when someone says 'well, I'm not surprised this and that happened', you honestly do not know what sort of judgement they're making on the actual event. You can't. You don't have enough information.

Now, as it so happens, I wholeheartedly condemn the attacks and would like to see the attackers in jail and awaiting trial. But that's not something you could reasonably assume to know or not know based on what I said. Therefore, you have what is known as a strawman argument.

And the saddest part of all of this is that you could know everything I've said here by taking a high school debate class.
 
2012-09-14 03:27:15 PM  

Walker: American mentality: free speech

Middle East mentality: say something I disagree with and I will kill anyone from your country or even allies of your country and then burn down my own city. That will learn you.

Close our embassies and don't give one more penny to these countries that hate us and want to kill us. We gave billions to Pakistan while they hid Bin laden for a decade. And if you think Pakistan didn't know he was there I have a bridge to sell you.


here's your 'freedom'

Freedom of press?

elections arn't bought?

committing worldwide felonies?

what does that get ya?

Accounting fraud?

Think you can't be spied on

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remember citizen

Truth comes from authority

Intelligence is the ability to repeat and remember

accurate memory and repetition are rewarded

non-compliance is punished

conform:socially and intellectually

do not resist
 

BUT DON'T YOU DARE VIEW CRAPPY MOVIES ONLINE. DO YOU HEAR MEEEE!?!?!?!? why no, lobbying and subsidies arn't bribery and tax evasion, why do you ask?
 
2012-09-14 03:28:15 PM  

Thunderpipes: We don't like murder and terrorism here.


Then why is the murder rate so high? And why do the police terrorize minorities?
 
2012-09-14 03:29:30 PM  
and don't forget

www.yesnet.yk.ca
 
2012-09-14 03:29:38 PM  

PsiChick: . I was talking about being unsurprised about the attacks, not about the morality of the attacks. .


Wow! That is A LOT of words, good for you, sugar.

here is a few more words that, curiously, did not make it into your little rant:

"If anyone's surprised, I'd like to remind you that America has spent the past fifty years propping up a country with the manners of Hulk on steroid smoothies and spent the past twenty years in two wars that caused thousands of civilian casualties, major human rights violations, stomped all over the idea of the Arab League's rights to deal with the ME their own way, left two countries in shambles, and opened up the idea that America can attack anyone, anywhere, without any consequences."

The funny thing is you wrote those words. My mistake was reading them, huh, champ?

"if anyone's surprised..." Face palm.

Great post, and borderline incomprehensible follow up. Thanks for posting.
 
2012-09-14 03:31:16 PM  
Whoa, whoa, whoa. There is unrest in the Middle East? Surely you jest!
 
2012-09-14 03:36:37 PM  
Make fun of a Christian and they say they'll pray for your soul in hell.

Make fun of a Muslim, well, let's just say you better have a bomb-sniffing dog around at all times.
 
2012-09-14 03:38:05 PM  

halfof33: PsiChick: . I was talking about being unsurprised about the attacks, not about the morality of the attacks. .

Wow! That is A LOT of words, good for you, sugar.

here is a few more words that, curiously, did not make it into your little rant:

"If anyone's surprised, I'd like to remind you that America has spent the past fifty years propping up a country with the manners of Hulk on steroid smoothies and spent the past twenty years in two wars that caused thousands of civilian casualties, major human rights violations, stomped all over the idea of the Arab League's rights to deal with the ME their own way, left two countries in shambles, and opened up the idea that America can attack anyone, anywhere, without any consequences."

The funny thing is you wrote those words. My mistake was reading them, huh, champ?

"if anyone's surprised..." Face palm.

Great post, and borderline incomprehensible follow up. Thanks for posting.


Fine, then, I'll use small words for you.

I condemn the attacks. I am not surprised they happened.

I also didn't think I needed to spell the first one out or be accused of supporting farking murderers. My bad. Apparently we live in a society where people are too stupid to differentiate.
 
2012-09-14 03:39:19 PM  

halfof33: PsiChick: . I was talking about being unsurprised about the attacks, not about the morality of the attacks. .

Wow! That is A LOT of words, good for you, sugar.

here is a few more words that, curiously, did not make it into your little rant:

"If anyone's surprised, I'd like to remind you that America has spent the past fifty years propping up a country with the manners of Hulk on steroid smoothies and spent the past twenty years in two wars that caused thousands of civilian casualties, major human rights violations, stomped all over the idea of the Arab League's rights to deal with the ME their own way, left two countries in shambles, and opened up the idea that America can attack anyone, anywhere, without any consequences."

The funny thing is you wrote those words. My mistake was reading them, huh, champ?

"if anyone's surprised..." Face palm.

Great post, and borderline incomprehensible follow up. Thanks for posting.


Listen here, cupcake, understanding the justification behind these horrendous attacks is not the same as supporting them.

Cupcake.
 
2012-09-14 03:44:14 PM  

Tat'dGreaser: You gotta give it to Al Qaeda, they've been looking for a way to hit us hard and then this video came along. They popped smoke, hit us hard and got an Ambassador and then got us to get pissed at all Muslims. Brilliant.


Absolutely - and we're buying it like rubes at a county fair.
 
2012-09-14 03:46:53 PM  

Blue_Blazer: Listen here, cupcake, understanding the justification behind these horrendous attacks is not the same as supporting them.


Say, pork chop, the "justification" for those attacks is a stupid web video insulting the "Prophet."

Y'all want to lkeep up with the farking news?

In fact, even characterizing them as "justifications" is ludicrous.

Am I going to fast for the liberal farking guilt mob here?
 
2012-09-14 03:53:58 PM  

PsiChick: halfof33: PsiChick: . I was talking about being unsurprised about the attacks, not about the morality of the attacks. .

Wow! That is A LOT of words, good for you, sugar.

here is a few more words that, curiously, did not make it into your little rant:

"If anyone's surprised, I'd like to remind you that America has spent the past fifty years propping up a country with the manners of Hulk on steroid smoothies and spent the past twenty years in two wars that caused thousands of civilian casualties, major human rights violations, stomped all over the idea of the Arab League's rights to deal with the ME their own way, left two countries in shambles, and opened up the idea that America can attack anyone, anywhere, without any consequences."

The funny thing is you wrote those words. My mistake was reading them, huh, champ?

"if anyone's surprised..." Face palm.

Great post, and borderline incomprehensible follow up. Thanks for posting.

Fine, then, I'll use small words for you.

I condemn the attacks. I am not surprised they happened.

I also didn't think I needed to spell the first one out or be accused of supporting farking murderers. My bad. Apparently we live in a society where people are too stupid to differentiate.


You are engaged in the equivalent of trying to teach a dog calculus.
 
2012-09-14 03:58:54 PM  

halfof33: Blue_Blazer: Listen here, cupcake, understanding the justification behind these horrendous attacks is not the same as supporting them.

Say, pork chop, the "justification" for those attacks is a stupid web video insulting the "Prophet."

Y'all want to lkeep up with the farking news?

In fact, even characterizing them as "justifications" is ludicrous.

Am I going to fast for the liberal farking guilt mob here?


No, I'm fairly sure that the justifications are exactly as Psichick described. You are quite obtuse if you truly believe that this film is the SOLE AND PRIMARY justification.

/damn it now I want porkchops and cupcakes
 
2012-09-14 04:06:08 PM  
So why is this not being covered more in America? Does the media/government not want us outraged?


media.washtimes.com
 
2012-09-14 04:10:03 PM  

Blue_Blazer: No, I'm fairly sure that the justifications are exactly as Psichick described.


No I'm pretty sure they are not, because those "justifications" (and they are not justifications, they are perjorative conclusions) would treat the Muslim world as a single amorphous mass, which is idiotic.

But I'm going to do you a favor. I am going to explain this as one would to a child:

This;

"I condemn her rape."

is not the same as this:

"I condemn her rape, but I am not surprised by it because of the way she dressed."

Just like this:

"I condemn the violence at the Embassy."

is not the same as this:

"I condemn the violence at the Embassy, but I am not surprised by it because of the way she dressed America has acted for the last 50 years."

Thus endeth the lesson, go and sin no more.

Class Dismissed.
 
2012-09-14 04:13:34 PM  

Mr. Cat Poop: I really don't want Germany on our side in WWIII. They lost the first 2 already. Can we pick Russia again?


What's the old saying? Third one is the charme?
 
2012-09-14 04:14:52 PM  

HotIgneous Intruder: CNN is showing the dead American killed by protected speech coming home to Andrews AFB right now.


No, CNN showed the dead Americans killed by medieval thugs that can't gain power as long as there's protected speech. Protected speech doesn't kill people. Thugs enabled by cowards who'd trade away the rights that others fought for kill people.
 
2012-09-14 04:14:57 PM  

jso2897: PsiChick: halfof33: PsiChick:

You are engaged in the equivalent of trying to teach a dog calculus.


I used to be roughly where that guy is--I knew you were supposed to say X, Y, and Z, but couldn't figure out why, so sometimes I'd think X was Z. I learned and got better. Maybe he can too.

/Although I'm not really being incredibly patient today...I need more coffee.
 
2012-09-14 04:24:05 PM  

halfof33: Blue_Blazer: No, I'm fairly sure that the justifications are exactly as Psichick described.

No I'm pretty sure they are not, because those "justifications" (and they are not justifications, they are perjorative conclusions) would treat the Muslim world as a single amorphous mass, which is idiotic.

But I'm going to do you a favor. I am going to explain this as one would to a child:

This;

"I condemn her rape."

is not the same as this:

"I condemn her rape, but I am not surprised by it because of the way she dressed."

Just like this:

"I condemn the violence at the Embassy."

is not the same as this:

"I condemn the violence at the Embassy, but I am not surprised by it because of the way she dressed America has acted for the last 50 years."

Thus endeth the lesson, go and sin no more.

Class Dismissed.


I can't believe I'm saying this, but you're right: they aren't the same.
The statements with the "but" clause signify that the speaker is able to understand causality. The other, simpler statements seem to have no such understanding.
I am not going to debate hypotheticals involving rape.
Seriously why do all the cons always want to talk about abortion and rape?
 
2012-09-14 04:31:22 PM  

Blue_Blazer: The statements with the "but" clause signify that the speaker is able to understand causality.


FACE PALM. Understand casuality? Are you serious? The second examples falsely and fallaciously ascribe causes that blame the victim.

Unbelievable.

/the rape hypotheical is the classic example of the fallacious arguments you people are making.
 
2012-09-14 04:36:17 PM  

halfof33: Blue_Blazer: No, I'm fairly sure that the justifications are exactly as Psichick described.

No I'm pretty sure they are not, because those "justifications" (and they are not justifications, they are perjorative conclusions) would treat the Muslim world as a single amorphous mass, which is idiotic.

But I'm going to do you a favor. I am going to explain this as one would to a child:

This;

"I condemn her rape."

is not the same as this:

"I condemn her rape, but I am not surprised by it because of the way she dressed."

Just like this:

"I condemn the violence at the Embassy."

is not the same as this:

"I condemn the violence at the Embassy, but I am not surprised by it because of the way she dressed America has acted for the last 50 years."

Thus endeth the lesson, go and sin no more.

Class Dismissed.



PS, in case you missed my post above, it sadly looks like you can cross out everything you typed because there is an ACTUAL rape victim. So... yeah. Sickening and outrageous. Oh and Blue_Blazer you suck at logic. Thanks...
 
2012-09-14 04:37:59 PM  

imasig: Seriously...where does all this shiat end. My Facebook page is blowing up with everyone yelling war. War? With who? The protesters in these dozen countries or so? The government of these countries? Islam as a whole?

Let's just assume we identify a target and we do go to war. We send our planes over. Our men (and women) over. We blow some shiat up. We shoot some people dead. We capture some people and put them on trial and execute them. We install a democratic government. Then what? We go home and these countries are in the same farked up American hating state there were just before we arrived.

I'm not try to be a tree hugging hippy here because this dumb ass shiat pisses me off as much as anyone else. I'm just saying unless our goals are to: a.) blow the entire place up for good. or b.) install some concentration camps over there and brainwash every muslim into loving America then we're not going to accomplish shiat but going to war in a traditional sense.


WOLVERINES!!!!!
 
2012-09-14 04:43:16 PM  
Once again, you can argue rape hypotheticals all you want. You seem to not understand the, admittedly nuanced, difference between "blaming the victim" and understanding justifications, whether or not those justifications are valid.
For example, let's suppose that some white knight defender of yours decides to come kill me because. I called you cupcake.
Here are two possible sentences you might say:
White Knight killed Blue_Blazer
White Knight killed Blue_Blazer because he called me cupcake.
You can say the second sentence without providing a moral judgment on whether he SHOULD have killed me. You would be providing the killer's justification, but you would NOT be tacitly agreeing with it. In fact, whether you agree or not is a completely separate matter.
 
2012-09-14 04:48:01 PM  

halfof33: Blue_Blazer: The statements with the "but" clause signify that the speaker is able to understand causality.

FACE PALM. Understand casuality? Are you serious? The second examples falsely and fallaciously ascribe causes that blame the victim.

Unbelievable.

/the rape hypotheical is the classic example of the fallacious arguments you people are making.


It's pretty silly to suggest the history of US involvement in the middle east is akin to wearing a skirt and too much makeup.
 
2012-09-14 04:49:58 PM  

Blue_Blazer: BMulligan: Blue_Blazer: WillyChase: rebelpride644: BMulligan: The Dog Ate The Constitution: Can't bomb these goat farkers fast enough.

The world will be a better place on the day that you leave it.

So it's ok for you to wish death on someone??

Uh, he didn't wish death on anyone. If you can't tell the difference between those two statements you quoted then maybe you should just sit your bad self down before you make yourself look stupid again.

Right, he was advocating using glitter bombs I'm sure.

I was advocating patience. That, and a well-planned celebration when th moment finally arrives of its own accord.

So... can we celebrate with glitter bombs?


You're going to watch a Twilight movie, and be happy about it? o_O
 
2012-09-14 04:52:39 PM  

dehehn: smitty04: [img.photobucket.com image 456x386]

Moderate Muslims, demonstrating for peace:

[i.dailymail.co.uk image 850x538]
[cdn.ph.upi.com image 531x354]
[s3.amazonaws.com image 550x355]


Sorry, but one violent bigot makes them all bigots. Oh wait, that only counts when the left talks about the tea party. Sorry.
 
2012-09-14 04:55:57 PM  

theknuckler_33: It's pretty silly to suggest the history of US involvement in the middle east is akin to wearing a skirt and too much makeup.


Jesus... I mean, what is this, i don't even.

You know what? Fark it

I give up.

The dummies win.
 
2012-09-14 04:57:18 PM  

theknuckler_33: halfof33: Blue_Blazer: The statements with the "but" clause signify that the speaker is able to understand causality.

FACE PALM. Understand casuality? Are you serious? The second examples falsely and fallaciously ascribe causes that blame the victim.

Unbelievable.

/the rape hypotheical is the classic example of the fallacious arguments you people are making.

It's pretty silly to suggest the history of US involvement in the middle east is akin to wearing a skirt and too much makeup.


It's pretty silly to suggest the Middle East would be just fine if the USA didn't exist or was never "involved".
 
2012-09-14 04:57:30 PM  
Have any of y'all watched the stupid video in question? I have and I can see why the Muslims are rioting - not because it's insulting to their religion, but because it's 14 minutes of their lives they will NEVER get back.
 
2012-09-14 05:04:52 PM  
Protesters pretty much always do it wrong. Even when I agree with the stance taken by protesters, their actions are nearly always counter-productive.
 
2012-09-14 05:05:55 PM  

ArmyWarVet: Blue_Blazer: BMulligan: Blue_Blazer: WillyChase: rebelpride644: BMulligan: The Dog Ate The Constitution: Can't bomb these goat farkers fast enough.

The world will be a better place on the day that you leave it.

So it's ok for you to wish death on someone??

Uh, he didn't wish death on anyone. If you can't tell the difference between those two statements you quoted then maybe you should just sit your bad self down before you make yourself look stupid again.

Right, he was advocating using glitter bombs I'm sure.

I was advocating patience. That, and a well-planned celebration when th moment finally arrives of its own accord.

So... can we celebrate with glitter bombs?

You're going to watch a Twilight movie, and be happy about it? o_O


Actually I got these new, retro ones:

Gary Glitter Bombs (keep out of reach of children)
 
2012-09-14 05:06:57 PM  

Purdue_Pete: theknuckler_33: halfof33: Blue_Blazer: The statements with the "but" clause signify that the speaker is able to understand causality.

FACE PALM. Understand casuality? Are you serious? The second examples falsely and fallaciously ascribe causes that blame the victim.

Unbelievable.

/the rape hypotheical is the classic example of the fallacious arguments you people are making.

It's pretty silly to suggest the history of US involvement in the middle east is akin to wearing a skirt and too much makeup.

It's pretty silly to suggest the Middle East would be just fine if the USA didn't exist or was never "involved".


But they sure would hate us less, right?
 
2012-09-14 05:13:33 PM  

Walker: American mentality: free speech

Middle East mentality: say something I disagree with and I will kill anyone from your country or even allies of your country and then burn down my own city. That will learn you.

Close our embassies and don't give one more penny to these countries that hate us and want to kill us. We gave billions to Pakistan while they hid Bin laden for a decade. And if you think Pakistan didn't know he was there I have a bridge to sell you.


My Pakistani co-worker is quite familiar with the area OBL was hiding in. It's a very poplar section for military officers to have homes and there was no way they didn't know he was there. So yes, fark them. No more money, with the possible exception of Libya where the people seem to be attempting to make amends.

In one of the videos I just watched, the local "security forces" stood around doing nothing while the mobs tore down the German embassy fence.
 
2012-09-14 05:23:05 PM  

HotIgneous Intruder: My right to free speech is protected, but if I got to a drug corner in Baltimore and start preaching master race nonsense to the corner boys, my highbrow rights don't really apply after a point.
My speech is protected, but my ass is not.


So, anywhere between Martin Luther, Biddle, Jones Falls, and Pratt? Or anywhere within a quarter mile of Pioneer City.
 
2012-09-14 05:52:40 PM  

ArmyWarVet: HotIgneous Intruder: My right to free speech is protected, but if I got to a drug corner in Baltimore and start preaching master race nonsense to the corner boys, my highbrow rights don't really apply after a point.
My speech is protected, but my ass is not.

So, anywhere between Martin Luther, Biddle, Jones Falls, and Pratt? Or anywhere within a quarter mile of Pioneer City.


First, I'm not going anywhere without a pumpkin spice latte. Second, what color is the hen house at Hereford? Take your pick, skeezle.

I wonder if these Muslims understand how mentally ill all this rioting and protesting makes them look to the rest of the civilized world.
 
2012-09-14 06:24:40 PM  

Superjew: It's a convenient excuse. Something organized is going on, and any pretext will do.

Somebody is using the thin skins of muslim fundamentalists to accomplish something.


Yup. Notice this seems to be happening mainly in countries that recently got new governments after Arab Spring uprisings (and places like Sudan that recently split in two). Looks like hard line Islamists aren't happy with their new leaders (Muslim Brotherhood) and are flexing their muscles.
 
2012-09-14 06:29:35 PM  

Blue_Blazer: Purdue_Pete: theknuckler_33: halfof33: Blue_Blazer: The statements with the "but" clause signify that the speaker is able to understand causality.

FACE PALM. Understand casuality? Are you serious? The second examples falsely and fallaciously ascribe causes that blame the victim.

Unbelievable.

/the rape hypotheical is the classic example of the fallacious arguments you people are making.

It's pretty silly to suggest the history of US involvement in the middle east is akin to wearing a skirt and too much makeup.

It's pretty silly to suggest the Middle East would be just fine if the USA didn't exist or was never "involved".

But they sure would hate us less, right?


That's what Obama said... and GWB in the campaign of 2000, and Clinton in 1992....
 
2012-09-14 06:29:40 PM  
I'm as liberal as the next guy, but I don't have any respect for anyone who riots over "hurt religious feelings."

"Hurt feelings"? What are we, ten-you-olds? If someone does something insulting or disrespectful, put on your big boy pants and deal. Be a grown-up. Try to educate the offender as to why he is wrong. Or ignore him. But don't throw a violent tantrum like a small child because your feelings got hurt.
 
2012-09-14 06:54:40 PM  

HotIgneous Intruder: I wonder if these Muslims understand how mentally ill all this rioting and protesting makes them look to the rest of the civilized world.



Given their opinions of the evil, decadent West, I don't think they really care what we think.
 
2012-09-14 07:00:14 PM  
Despite all the efforts of these Muslims I still don't think Russia is going to let Pussy Riot off the hook.
 
2012-09-14 07:31:11 PM  
They need to be careful around Germany. I mean the Germans seem like nice, peaceful guys now, but it might not take that much to make them try to exterminate another Abrahamic religion.
 
2012-09-14 07:32:06 PM  

tortilla burger: Were the Prophet Muhammad around today, I think he'd be terribly disappointed in his followers. Even more so than Jesus would be were he around today. I imagine this scenario where Jesus and Muhammad would be sitting around at a bar lamenting about how idiotic their respective followers are. Though I think Muhammad would have slightly more to biatch about in that particular situation.


what's better:

1. good people
2. "followers" of a religion
 
2012-09-14 08:04:59 PM  

Blue_Blazer: Seriously why do all the cons always want to talk about abortion and rape?


They like rape.
 
2012-09-14 08:08:38 PM  

AcneVulgaris: Nurglitch: At this point one feels that the 'protesters' are just looking for an excuse.

After being shiat on by white people for 100 years or so, they probably have a problem with white people.


This is the Sudan. The "white people" over there are Arabs, and they're even more racist against blacks than our ancestors ever hoped to be.
 
2012-09-14 10:11:15 PM  

Bo 'n Luke: Protesters pretty much always do it wrong. Even when I agree with the stance taken by protesters, their actions are nearly always counter-productive.


Civil disobedience is pretty much the only way to go. Make the people you're protesting against look worse than you. Jumping around and burning shiat is stupid.
 
2012-09-14 10:33:09 PM  

jrodtheterrible: If there were a Death Star, I wonder if it could just singe a certain part of the planet, without going full Alderaan.


Better to use the Eclipse and her "Continent Cracker" superlaser.
 
2012-09-14 11:17:57 PM  

Purdue_Pete: theknuckler_33: halfof33: Blue_Blazer: The statements with the "but" clause signify that the speaker is able to understand causality.

FACE PALM. Understand casuality? Are you serious? The second examples falsely and fallaciously ascribe causes that blame the victim.

Unbelievable.

/the rape hypotheical is the classic example of the fallacious arguments you people are making.

It's pretty silly to suggest the history of US involvement in the middle east is akin to wearing a skirt and too much makeup.

It's pretty silly to suggest the Middle East would be just fine if the USA didn't exist or was never "involved".


A) I didn't say that. and B) The middle east would be far better if the west never got involved in the first place. Read some history.
 
2012-09-14 11:29:34 PM  

Purdue_Pete: Blue_Blazer: Purdue_Pete: theknuckler_33: halfof33: Blue_Blazer: The statements with the "but" clause signify that the speaker is able to understand causality.

FACE PALM. Understand casuality? Are you serious? The second examples falsely and fallaciously ascribe causes that blame the victim.

Unbelievable.

/the rape hypotheical is the classic example of the fallacious arguments you people are making.

It's pretty silly to suggest the history of US involvement in the middle east is akin to wearing a skirt and too much makeup.

It's pretty silly to suggest the Middle East would be just fine if the USA didn't exist or was never "involved".

But they sure would hate us less, right?

That's what Obama said... and GWB in the campaign of 2000, and Clinton in 1992....


the lack of knowledge of the middle east is staggering.
 
2012-09-15 12:26:41 AM  

ArkPanda: Walker: THEY'RE BURNING THE FAST FOOD RESTAURANTS! SOMEONE SAVE THE CHICKEN BREASTS!
[img.photobucket.com image 630x420]

I have no problem with them burning one of those Carl's Jr. neo-Hardees.


infidel!
 
2012-09-15 01:14:39 AM  

smitty04: Is it possible that all the boasting about killing Osama by Obama is causing all the hatred.


no
 
2012-09-15 09:37:17 AM  
Protesting video about their violent history and ways by being violent. Nice job.
 
2012-09-15 01:41:28 PM  

theknuckler_33: Purdue_Pete: theknuckler_33: halfof33: Blue_Blazer: The statements with the "but" clause signify that the speaker is able to understand causality.

FACE PALM. Understand casuality? Are you serious? The second examples falsely and fallaciously ascribe causes that blame the victim.

Unbelievable.

/the rape hypotheical is the classic example of the fallacious arguments you people are making.

It's pretty silly to suggest the history of US involvement in the middle east is akin to wearing a skirt and too much makeup.

It's pretty silly to suggest the Middle East would be just fine if the USA didn't exist or was never "involved".

A) I didn't say that. and B) The middle east would be far better if the west never got involved in the first place. Read some history.


One of the downsides of being located at a global crossroads is that everyone gets involved anyway.
 
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