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(Google)   Romney: $100,000 per household is middle class? That's preposterous. How would you afford a roof over your head and dancing lessons for your horse? No, I'd say the middle class income is more around $250,000   (google.com) divider line 617
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2012-09-14 12:04:01 PM
"Democrats have repeatedly painted him as out of touch with average people."

Not that it's been very hard, since Romney keeps saying stuff like this
 
2012-09-14 12:07:42 PM
As much as I hate to be the biatch here, Romney did say and I quote: "No, middle income is $200,000 to $250,000 and less". Granted this phrasing is awkward as fark, but its essentially the same statement Obama made when he said middle-class income is up to $250,000.

/ Now I feel dirty for defending team Romney
// Cockpunch for liemitter
 
2012-09-14 12:08:19 PM

Voiceofreason01: "Democrats have repeatedly painted him as out of touch with average people."


In the same way that they have painted the sky blue and the grass green.
 
2012-09-14 12:09:32 PM
I noticed some articles are missing the "and less" part.
 
2012-09-14 12:13:51 PM

raerae1980: I noticed some articles are missing the "and less" part.


Let's try reading the article, shall we?

"Is $100,000 middle income?" Stephanopoulos asked.

"No, middle income is $200,000 to $250,000 and less," Romney responded.


$100k is not middle income. Middle income is $200k-250k, and less, but not as low as $100k, according to Mitt Romney
 
2012-09-14 12:20:32 PM

raerae1980: I noticed some articles are missing the "and less" part.


Either way, when only 4% of the households in the country make more than $200K, "$200-250K and less" still isn't "middle class".

75% -- three freaking quarters -- of the country has household incomes under $85K.
 
2012-09-14 12:21:04 PM

shroom: raerae1980: I noticed some articles are missing the "and less" part.

Let's try reading the article, shall we?

"Is $100,000 middle income?" Stephanopoulos asked.

"No, middle income is $200,000 to $250,000 and less," Romney responded.

$100k is not middle income. Middle income is $200k-250k, and less, but not as low as $100k, according to Mitt Romney


I wish I was making middle income.
 
2012-09-14 12:22:18 PM
Read the article??? Pffff, not until my coffee kicks in. Which it hasn't, yet. My bad...
 
2012-09-14 12:28:26 PM
Who the hell gives a number range followed by "and less?" What the goddamn hell was the point of the range to begin with?
 
2012-09-14 12:30:18 PM

Elzar: As much as I hate to be the biatch here, Romney did say and I quote: "No, middle income is $200,000 to $250,000 and less". Granted this phrasing is awkward as fark, but its essentially the same statement Obama made when he said middle-class income is up to $250,000.

/ Now I feel dirty for defending team Romney
// Cockpunch for liemitter


Yes, in answer to the question, "Is $100,000 middle class". He said No. Middle class is 200-250k, or less.

Now, if he had said, "Yes, $100,000 is middle class", he WOULD STILL BE WRONG because:

Gecko Gingrich: 75% -- three freaking quarters -- of the country has household incomes under $85K.

 
2012-09-14 12:30:28 PM

Relatively Obscure: Who the hell gives a number range followed by "and less?" What the goddamn hell was the point of the range to begin with?


What's the point? So he can wink & nod to his base ($250k!), and simultaneously claim he's not completely out of touch with middle-class America ("see, I said UNDER 100k too!").
 
2012-09-14 12:31:54 PM

Relatively Obscure: Who the hell gives a number range followed by "and less?" What the goddamn hell was the point of the range to begin with?


Mittens is pro-business - you probably don't understand complicated Bain Statistical Analysis. Also his tax returns would be difficult for you to understand for similar reasons - so vote republican...
 
2012-09-14 12:34:51 PM
Good luck with that.
 
2012-09-14 12:35:53 PM

Elzar: Relatively Obscure: Who the hell gives a number range followed by "and less?" What the goddamn hell was the point of the range to begin with?

Mittens is pro-business - you probably don't understand complicated Bain Statistical Analysis. Also his tax returns would be difficult for you to understand for similar reasons - so vote republican...


He's gonna totally create 10-12 millions jobs, or less.
 
2012-09-14 12:41:38 PM
"No, middle income is $200,000 to $250,000 and less," Romney responded.

I...uh....well, ok then. I mean it's your career. destroy it if you want.
 
2012-09-14 12:42:32 PM
When you have a net worth of around $250 million, 1/10th of that sounds like middle class.
 
2012-09-14 12:45:02 PM

Weaver95: "No, middle income is $200,000 to $250,000 and less," Romney responded.

I...uh....well, ok then. I mean it's your career. destroy it if you want.


It's the same thing as John McCain's gaffe with "you couldn't pick lettuce for $50/hour, my friends". They literally see no difference between $5/hour and $50/hour. When you can make $50,000/hour giving corporate speeches, anything 1,000x less than that is literally all the same in their minds.
 
2012-09-14 12:45:26 PM

Weaver95: "No, middle income is $200,000 to $250,000 and less," Romney responded.

I...uh....well, ok then. I mean it's your career. destroy it if you want.


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yeah, you're a little late with that.
 
2012-09-14 12:48:23 PM

shroom: $50,000/hour giving corporate speeches, anything 1,000x less than that is literally all the same in their minds.


Any amount 1,000x less than 50,000 IS literally the same as anything else 1,000x less than 50,000. ;)
 
2012-09-14 12:49:51 PM

Elzar: Relatively Obscure: Who the hell gives a number range followed by "and less?" What the goddamn hell was the point of the range to begin with?

Mittens is pro-business - you probably don't understand complicated Bain Statistical Analysis. Also his tax returns would be difficult for you to understand for similar reasons - so vote republican...


I vote Republican 15-100% of the time or less.
 
2012-09-14 12:49:55 PM
Hey Romney,

Can I borrow "a couple of bucks" and pay off my mortgage?

You know, since "a couple of bucks" in your opinion is somewhere north of $300,000.
 
2012-09-14 12:49:58 PM

Relatively Obscure: Who the hell gives a number range followed by "and less?" What the goddamn hell was the point of the range to begin with?


It's like when people say, "10-20, on average," or, "He averages 4-shiats," etc.
 
2012-09-14 12:50:47 PM

Elzar: As much as I hate to be the biatch here, Romney did say and I quote: "No, middle income is $200,000 to $250,000 and less". Granted this phrasing is awkward as fark, but its essentially the same statement Obama made when he said middle-class income is up to $250,000.


""No, middle income is $200,000 to $250,000 and less," Romney responded.

His campaign later clarified that Romney was referencing household income, not individual income.

The Census Bureau reported this week that the median household income - the midpoint for the nation - is just over $50,000."

His campaign (and therefore he himself) seems to think an average household (presumably husband and wife) make that much, which is clearly not the case.
 
2012-09-14 12:52:38 PM

wxboy: His campaign later clarified that Romney was referencing household income, not individual income.


Jesus Christ really? They doubled down on that?

Romney, the average American household does not make $200,000. It does not make $100,000.

We all understand that you are rich and have always been rich. Our problem is that you don't understand that those of us who are not rich ACTUALLY EXIST!
 
2012-09-14 12:52:49 PM
Guess that means my household of $29k is considered "dirt poor" then.

Expecting my taxes to get raised under a Romney presidency of course. I'm not bootstrappy enough.
 
2012-09-14 12:52:56 PM
It sounds to me like he is saying that over 98% of Americans are making "middle income"?
 
2012-09-14 12:53:10 PM

Gecko Gingrich: "He averages 4-shiats," etc.


This person either loves Taco Bell or has an awesome smartphone.
 
2012-09-14 12:53:22 PM
American income distribution

A really high proportion of the "middle class" is living in poverty. It's a joke that the middle class is composed of 98% of Americans.
 
2012-09-14 12:55:03 PM

Jackson Herring: It sounds to me like he is saying that over 98% of Americans are making "middle income"?


I don't think 98% of people make, as best I can figure it, somewhere between $100,000.01 and the range of $200,000-250,000.
 
2012-09-14 12:55:30 PM

Gecko Gingrich: 4-shiats


Uhhhh, filterpwnd.

"four-five hits"
 
2012-09-14 12:55:49 PM
His definition (if you are talking household) is not far off IMHO. Non-issue. Next.
 
2012-09-14 01:05:28 PM

Relatively Obscure: I don't think 98% of people make, as best I can figure it, somewhere between $100,000.01 and the range of $200,000-250,000.


I can see why you'd think that, if you misread what he said
 
2012-09-14 01:06:30 PM

cameroncrazy1984: When you have a net worth of around $250 million, 1/10th of that sounds like middle class.


$250,000 is 1/1000th of $250 million.
 
2012-09-14 01:10:33 PM
raerae1980: I noticed some articles are missing the "and less" part.

Let's try reading the article, shall we?

"Is $100,000 middle income?" Stephanopoulos asked.

"No, middle income is $200,000 to $250,000 and less," Romney responded.


shroom: $100k is not middle income. Middle income is $200k-250k, and less, but not as low as $100k, according to Mitt Romney

That's exactly the way I read it, too, shroom.

/the schmuck.
 
2012-09-14 01:11:47 PM
ROMNEY: "Look, all I'm saying is, at $100,000 per year, you aren't going to get a very good dancing horse. You may want to just save that money for maintaining your car elevator. (Nailed that one) Next question!"
 
2012-09-14 01:13:28 PM

Jackson Herring: Relatively Obscure: I don't think 98% of people make, as best I can figure it, somewhere between $100,000.01 and the range of $200,000-250,000.

I can see why you'd think that, if you misread what he said


Not 100,000. Is 200-250,000 and less.

I guess maybe it could be $0-99,999.99, and then $100,000.01-$250,000.
 
2012-09-14 01:14:37 PM
Oh wow, he actually is saying that $100K is not middle income but $250K is? That's like a lot worse than I thought. I didn't realize I was living in poverty.
 
2012-09-14 01:16:40 PM

sweetmelissa31: Oh wow, he actually is saying that $100K is not middle income but $250K is? That's like a lot worse than I thought. I didn't realize I was living in poverty.


I really do wonder if Romney understands just what he sounds like to most american voters. even if he doesn't get it, he has to have SOMEONE on staff who knows just how damaging statements like this are to Romney's campaign. they can't be completely stupid.
 
2012-09-14 01:20:02 PM
Actually, I guess it could also be $0-99,999.99, and then $200-250,000, but NOT $100,000-199,999.99.
 
2012-09-14 01:22:09 PM

Elzar: As much as I hate to be the biatch here, Romney did say and I quote: "No, middle income is $200,000 to $250,000 and less". Granted this phrasing is awkward as fark, but its essentially the same statement Obama made when he said middle-class income is up to $250,000.

/ Now I feel dirty for defending team Romney
// Cockpunch for liemitter


I agree with you 100% Elzar.

In other words:
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2012-09-14 01:22:37 PM

sweetmelissa31: Oh wow, he actually is saying that $100K is not middle income but $250K is? That's like a lot worse than I thought. I didn't realize I was living in poverty.


I don't think even HE knows what he was trying to say there. Maybe he just has no idea, personally? I mean you know how when you are in kindergarten and someone asks you how much money your parents make, and you are like "I don't know, a million dollars"? Except the opposite
 
2012-09-14 01:23:16 PM
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2012-09-14 01:24:03 PM
Weaver95
I really do wonder if Romney understands just what he sounds like to most american voters.

No, I don't think he does.

even if he doesn't get it, he has to have SOMEONE on staff who knows just how damaging statements like this are to Romney's campaign. they can't be completely stupid.

Oh, I think they can.
 
2012-09-14 01:25:35 PM

Jackson Herring: I don't think even HE knows what he was trying to say there. Maybe he just has no idea, personally? I mean you know how when you are in kindergarten and someone asks you how much money your parents make, and you are like "I don't know, a million dollars"? Except the opposite


Mr. Romney, what do you think the average income in America is?

I don't know, like $200K? Is that close? Maybe $0? Either $200K or $0 or something. Definitely not $100K, that would be silly because 100 is such a nice round number.
 
2012-09-14 01:26:13 PM

Weaver95: sweetmelissa31: Oh wow, he actually is saying that $100K is not middle income but $250K is? That's like a lot worse than I thought. I didn't realize I was living in poverty.

I really do wonder if Romney understands just what he sounds like to most american voters. even if he doesn't get it, he has to have SOMEONE on staff who knows just how damaging statements like this are to Romney's campaign. they can't be completely stupid.


With all due respect, I think you may be underestimating the ability of wealthy/clueless politicians to surround themselves with yes-men.
 
2012-09-14 01:29:41 PM
When we talk about "middle class", we don't mean "whoever's in the middle". If you're making less than 200K, then you're poor no matter how many of you there are or how good you feel about yourselves. If you make 200K, you may be satisfied with your lifestyle, but the capitalist class snickers at you as they jerk your arms and legs around with their puppet strings.
 
2012-09-14 01:31:41 PM
The Republican presidential nominee defined it Friday as income of $200,000 to $250,000 a year and less.
...
Obama also has set his definition for "middle class" as families with income of up to $250,000 a year.



Um... both of them said the same thing, so why is the story "OMG RMONEY BLAAAARRGGHHH!111!"
 
2012-09-14 01:34:02 PM

Rev.K: Hey Romney,

Can I borrow "a couple of bucks" and pay off my mortgage?

You know, since "a couple of bucks" in your opinion is somewhere north of $300,000.


"I get speakers fees from time to time, but not very much."
 
2012-09-14 01:35:22 PM

GilRuiz1: Obama also has set his definition for "middle class" as families with income of up to $250,000 a year.


I ask this genuinely, but has he actually done that? I know he's vowed not to raise taxes on "the middle class" and has also stated he won't raise taxes on "those making $250K or less", but has he ever actually said that the middle class is those making $250K and less?
 
2012-09-14 01:37:34 PM

Gecko Gingrich: GilRuiz1: Obama also has set his definition for "middle class" as families with income of up to $250,000 a year.

I ask this genuinely, but has he actually done that? I know he's vowed not to raise taxes on "the middle class" and has also stated he won't raise taxes on "those making $250K or less", but has he ever actually said that the middle class is those making $250K and less?



Heck if I know. I was just quoting the article.
 
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