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2012-09-14 12:55:12 PM
Aaaawkward.
 
2012-09-14 02:14:26 PM
That was sort of farked up!!! I'd say he handled it with extreme class considering the situation.

/not sure I'd have the ability to do the same
 
2012-09-14 02:36:09 PM
Quick Google-fu had no hits....

Back in the 70s or 80s, a daytime talk show had a rapist meeting his victim, and I think he apologized or whatnot, but I remember the host comforting the victim by patting her hand.

Awkward started at Eleven.
 
2012-09-14 03:26:22 PM
From what I remember hearing about this, Captain Lewis was pretty drunk when they filmed this (he missed the dress rehearsal because he was at a bar down the street) - can't say I blame him.
 
2012-09-14 03:50:34 PM
Boy, that segment just bombed.
 
2012-09-14 03:54:53 PM
And yet, Japanese schools still to this day barely admit that WWII even existed.
 
2012-09-14 03:56:57 PM
If there was any program I would not object to bringing back, it would be "This is Your Life".

This episode in particular is a very interesting slice of Americana.
 
2012-09-14 04:13:31 PM

capitafun: I'd say he handled it with extreme class considering the situation.


I think that it helped that the copilot's emotions truly showed remorse.
 
2012-09-14 04:42:11 PM
30 minutes? Fark you.
 
2012-09-14 05:12:58 PM
The exact moment when the captain walks in and shakes hands with the survivor is physically painful to watch.
 
2012-09-14 05:19:40 PM
What time does this start?

If I hear one more Hazel Bishop ad I may kamakaze my computer into my window.

Defenestration is a great way of destruction
 
2012-09-14 05:42:07 PM
That reverent had class, way more than Romney.
 
2012-09-14 06:09:18 PM

OtherLittleGuy: Quick Google-fu had no hits....

Back in the 70s or 80s, a daytime talk show had a rapist meeting his victim, and I think he apologized or whatnot, but I remember the host comforting the victim by patting her hand.

Awkward started at Eleven.


Farksteron: capitafun: I'd say he handled it with extreme class considering the situation.

I think that it helped that the copilot's emotions truly showed remorse.


Congratulations, you're the only two people in this thread so far with any class. The rest of you should feel ashamed.
 
2012-09-14 06:50:30 PM
50's television at its absolute worst.

I was told a story once that there was a man who survived the bomb at Hiroshima and left the area to go stay with his brother who lived in Nagasaki.

This reminded me of the worst TV show of all time, Queen for a Day.
 
2012-09-14 06:52:04 PM
Q: Welcome Reverend Tanimoto, your life was changed at 8:15 one summer morning. Can you tell us when you arrived in this country?

A: Oh, around 8:16, maybe 8:17.
 
2012-09-14 07:41:03 PM
I went to Japan a couple of years ago and a lady asked us if we were Americans...we told her yes.

She then looked at us and said....Hiroshima,Hiroshima..... over and over again. Very creepy. We turned and walked away before she got too upset.
 
2012-09-14 07:41:17 PM
I don't get this. Why would you want to have another member of the human race relive such a horrible day in our history? Why would you put somebody from a proud culture in the predicament of shaking the hand of the person that pushed the button to slaughter 100,000 of your fellow countrymen?

With that said, I'm surprised how well he handled it, and how awkward the pilot looked and must have felt to be there.
 
2012-09-14 07:43:54 PM
Came expecting Eamonn Andrews.

Leaves disappointed.
 
2012-09-14 08:04:34 PM
Jesus Christ, this was excruciating. I think both the Reverend and the co-pilot behaved with dignity, which is a lot more than I can say for the cheeseball host, with his Ed Herlihy "Keep'em comin', boys!" newsreel voice and his horrible, purple prose dialogue. And this was less than 10 goddamn years after we vaporized or irradiated everyone this guy ever met. Who the fark thought this was a good idea?

I'm trying to picture some New Yorkers going on Iraqi television to shake hands with the 9/11 planners. Un-goddamn-thinkable.
 
2012-09-14 08:07:16 PM

fluffytuff: I don't get this. Why would you want to have another member of the human race relive such a horrible day in our history? Why would you put somebody from a proud culture in the predicament of shaking the hand of the person that pushed the button to slaughter 100,000 of your fellow countrymen?

With that said, I'm surprised how well he handled it, and how awkward the pilot looked and must have felt to be there.


This.
 
2012-09-14 08:14:48 PM
That really was a low point. Poor guy barely understood the concept of the show he was on. They misled him to believe it was simply an interview show, and made what had to be the worst event of his life into a spectacle, with him in the spotlight.

Shameful. I wonder what the producers' Fark handles were.
 
2012-09-14 08:34:36 PM

rob42164: I went to Japan a couple of years ago and a lady asked us if we were Americans...we told her yes.

She then looked at us and said....Hiroshima,Hiroshima..... over and over again. Very creepy. We turned and walked away before she got too upset.


You should have taught her some new words: Bataan, Wake, ....
 
2012-09-14 08:35:52 PM

Barricaded Gunman: Jesus Christ, this was excruciating. I think both the Reverend and the co-pilot behaved with dignity, which is a lot more than I can say for the cheeseball host, with his Ed Herlihy "Keep'em comin', boys!" newsreel voice and his horrible, purple prose dialogue. And this was less than 10 goddamn years after we vaporized or irradiated everyone this guy ever met. Who the fark thought this was a good idea?

I'm trying to picture some New Yorkers going on Iraqi television to shake hands with the 9/11 planners. Un-goddamn-thinkable.


That analogy fails several times over. Congratulations.
 
2012-09-14 08:41:22 PM

rob42164: I went to Japan a couple of years ago and a lady asked us if we were Americans...we told her yes.

She then looked at us and said....Hiroshima,Hiroshima..... over and over again. Very creepy. We turned and walked away before she got too upset.


You must have run into a nutcase (available on most street corners) I have been to Japan a couple of times and even to Hiroshima, and have been greeted with nothing more disrespectful than a unconvincing "irasshaimase"(welcome) when I walk into the Lawsons
 
2012-09-14 09:02:19 PM
How they thought this was a good idea still nuclear

/FTFY, subby
 
2012-09-14 09:20:39 PM
Every time I start to feel bad about America using nuclear weapons on Japan, I remember the fact that the two bombings were 3 days apart and Japan didn't surrender during that time, nor even for many days after the second, resulting in the Allies launching a massive conventional air attack 5 days after Nagasaki. If Japan had dithered another 5 days, they would have received a-bomb #3.
 
2012-09-14 09:25:12 PM
i can't find the article, but there was a good longform about this incident. The Japanese came to America with a group of disfigured girls, I believe to show the effects and attempt to establish positive relations with the Americans or something. They were booked for this show. The show told the American that they wanted him to come on and talk about how he was on the Enola Gay. Then "surprise", you're going to meet some Japanese! That's why the guy went and got drunk, he couldn't handle the emotion. The show made it look like they did something fantastic for the world, when it turns out they were manipulating all of the players, shocking, huh? ha.
 
2012-09-14 09:59:39 PM

Nem Wan: Every time I start to feel bad about America using nuclear weapons on Japan, I remember the fact that the two bombings were 3 days apart and Japan didn't surrender during that time, nor even for many days after the second, resulting in the Allies launching a massive conventional air attack 5 days after Nagasaki. If Japan had dithered another 5 days, they would have received a-bomb #3.


Not to mention the fact that Tokyo itself was spared only because of cloud cover over Nagasaki.
 
2012-09-14 10:12:03 PM

rob42164: I went to Japan a couple of years ago and a lady asked us if we were Americans...we told her yes.

She then looked at us and said....Hiroshima,Hiroshima..... over and over again. Very creepy. We turned and walked away before she got too upset.


did you say "Nanking...Nanking" over and over?
 
2012-09-14 10:28:50 PM

JohnAnnArbor: rob42164: I went to Japan a couple of years ago and a lady asked us if we were Americans...we told her yes.

She then looked at us and said....Hiroshima,Hiroshima..... over and over again. Very creepy. We turned and walked away before she got too upset.

You should have taught her some new words: Bataan, Wake, ....


Thank you. My grandfather was in the US military during WWII and I grew up hearing stories of my family hiding in the mountains when the Japanese invaded while my GF fought in the war. Some of my family members were degraded and tortured by the Japanese.

Hiroshima was horrendous but it was no worse than what the Japanese would have done had the war continued.
 
2012-09-14 10:30:36 PM
All I can say about that video is.... where is the HELL can I get me some of that Hazel Bishop nail polish?!?!?!

No idea what I'd even do with it... but have to have me at least 14 to 18 bottles of Hazel Bishop nail polish!!

/Hazel Bishop nail polish
//Hazel Bishop nail polish
 
2012-09-14 10:33:46 PM

bulok: I grew up hearing stories of my family hiding in the mountains when the Japanese invaded while my GF fought in the war. .


Dude, she's too old.
 
2012-09-15 12:24:28 AM

rob42164: I went to Japan a couple of years ago and a lady asked us if we were Americans...we told her yes.

She then looked at us and said....Hiroshima,Hiroshima..... over and over again. Very creepy. We turned and walked away before she got too upset.


My college roommate was Chinese. Although he was not out and out genocidal towards the Japanese he didn't seem to broken up about Hiroshima and Nagasaki. I suspect that if he had been there he would have either blown up at her or started laughing.
 
2012-09-15 12:43:01 AM
Don't forget the balloons with boxes of infected fleas!
 
2012-09-15 01:06:32 AM
JohnAnnArbor: That analogy fails several times over. Congratulations.

Eh.... you can pick it apart in a variety of ways (scope, rationale, intent, effect) and I'd agree, but as far as "shaking hands with a guy who personally killed thousands of my people 10 years ago," I think it kind of works.
 
2012-09-15 01:46:45 AM
C'mon, that was after two CITIES were destroyed. Almost all casualties (deaths) civilian. I don't know if hst made the right choice but it was definitely heavy.
 
2012-09-15 03:56:48 AM
Holy crap, it's like they were proud of dropping the bomb
 
2012-09-15 05:22:41 AM

bulok: JohnAnnArbor: rob42164: I went to Japan a couple of years ago and a lady asked us if we were Americans...we told her yes.

She then looked at us and said....Hiroshima,Hiroshima..... over and over again. Very creepy. We turned and walked away before she got too upset.

You should have taught her some new words: Bataan, Wake, ....

Thank you. My grandfather was in the US military during WWII and I grew up hearing stories of my family hiding in the mountains when the Japanese invaded while my GF fought in the war. Some of my family members were degraded and tortured by the Japanese.

Hiroshima was horrendous but it was no worse than what the Japanese would have done had the war continued.


They had already done worse. And showed no signs of stopping or changing that behavior until after the 2nd bomb was dropped.

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3-10M people murdered along with all the torture that came with it/etc. I'd agree that not only was it not worse than what they would have done, but that it was also not worse than what they had already done. By a long shot...
 
2012-09-15 09:10:27 AM

lucksi: Holy crap, it's like they were proud of dropping the bomb


They were proud of serving their country and helping to end the largest war in world history, which had dragged on for years and killed millions of people. You have to bear in mind that this was only ten years later. If you're young, that may seem like a long time, but when you get to 40 or so it won't. Capt. Lewis would have been about 38 when this show was filmed. You can see him choking up as he describes the destruction. Does that seem like he was proud to have helped kill all those people?

You also need to remember that America went to war because of the *surprise* bombing of Pearl Harbor -- still to this day, the greatest military assault on U.S. territory ever. There was a lot of emotion around all of this, but not all of it was pity and horror over what happened to those cities. There was blood and crime on both sides, and people of the time grasped that. *Everyone* at this time knew someone who was directly affected by the War, or was involved themselves. It wasn't a bunch of stories in history books yet, but real and recent events with very personal connections. There were very few Americans of the mid-1950s who honestly believed that the bombings were wrong and should not have happened. To get some idea of the sentiment of the time, consider that Rhode Island, where the SeaBees were based, still celebrates V-J Day (though they don't call it that anymore).

Also too, this was broadcast during the fever pitch of the early Cold War, and America wanted to project not only that we had the capability to use these weapons, but the continuing will to do so. And we had good reason: After the War, the Soviet Union gobbled up numerous satellite states, forming the Eastern Bloc. Many Americans of the time firmly believed that it was only our nuclear capability -- and again, the will to use it -- that protected us from the Red Menace. Indeed, many modern historicans (my late mother among them) believe that the bombings were intended as much to demonstrate to Soviet Russia what we could and might do to them. So as much as everyone felt awful about what happened to thousands of Japanese civilians, few people felt bad about the weapon itself as such.
 
2012-09-15 11:03:33 AM

rob42164

I went to Japan a couple of years ago and a lady asked us if we were Americans...we told her yes.

She then looked at us and said....Hiroshima,Hiroshima..... over and over again. Very creepy. We turned and walked away before she got too upset.

Proper answer:
"Perl Harbor, Nanking(300,000), Manila(100,000), Sook Ching(90,000), "Comfort women", Bataan Death March, unit 731. biatch."

It may be pointless to try to establish which World War Two Axis aggressor, Germany or Japan, was the more brutal to the peoples it victimised. The Germans killed six million Jews and 20 million Russians (i.e. Soviet citizens); the Japanese slaughtered as many as 30 million Filipinos, Malays, Vietnamese, Cambodians, Indonesians and Burmese, at least 23 million of them ethnic Chinese. Both nations looted the countries they conquered on a monumental scale, though Japan plundered more, over a longer period, than the Nazis. Both conquerors enslaved millions and exploited them as forced labourers-and, in the case of the Japanese, as (forced) prostitutes for front-line troops. If you were a Nazi prisoner of war from Britain, America, Australia, New Zealand or Canada (but not the Soviet Union) you faced a 4% chance of not surviving the war; (by comparison) the death rate for Allied POWs held by the Japanese was nearly 30%."

--- Chalmers Johnson (historian)
 
2012-09-15 12:10:59 PM

MrDon: I was told a story once that there was a man who survived the bomb at Hiroshima and left the area to go stay with his brother who lived in Nagasaki.


That would be Tsutomu Yamaguchi, who may simultaneously be the luckiest and unluckiest man ever. Even so, he lived to the ripe old age of 94, having died only about 4 years ago.
 
2012-09-15 08:57:28 PM
I can't believe how the japanese man managed to compose himself meeting the man who rained so much death upon his city. I would have to believe that the japanese culture is well acquainted with the idea of "duty" and he probably thought that this man was just doing what he was ordered to do. Still, would have been very weird, and it seemed that the pilot was a big shaken up meeting someone from that doomed city. i hope we never have to do such a awful thing again.
 
2012-09-15 09:26:36 PM
I hope someday we can have a show like this with survivors of the nuclear bombs dropped on the Middle East.
 
2012-09-16 12:59:51 AM

cabbyman: I hope someday we can have a show like this with survivors of the nuclear bombs dropped on the Middle East.


Maybe 10 years from now.
 
2012-09-16 08:12:39 PM

fluffytuff: I don't get this. Why would you want to have another member of the human race relive such a horrible day in our history? Why would you put somebody from a proud culture in the predicament of shaking the hand of the person that pushed the button to slaughter 100,000 of your fellow countrymen?

With that said, I'm surprised how well he handled it, and how awkward the pilot looked and must have felt to be there.


In WWII the Japanese murdered millions of civilians. And they started it all back in 1937.

But yeah, it was pretty farked up to have those two meet. Can't imagine why the copilot would want to do it.
 
2012-09-16 09:00:00 PM

fluffytuff: I don't get this. Why would you want to have another member of the human race relive such a horrible day in our history? Why would you put somebody from a proud culture in the predicament of shaking the hand of the person that pushed the button to slaughter 100,000 of your fellow countrymen?

With that said, I'm surprised how well he handled it, and how awkward the pilot looked and must have felt to be there.


One of the GREATEST days in history. They started the shiat, we ended it. Now we need to play cowboys and Muslims.
 
2012-09-17 02:00:36 PM
 
2012-09-17 10:33:49 PM

Sylvia_Bandersnatch: You also need to remember that America went to war because of the *surprise* bombing of Pearl Harbor...


Ummm... tell that to all the sailors who died fighting the Germans in the north Atlantic months before Pearl Harbor.
 
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