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(IGN)   When trying to turn your award winning game Bayonetta into a franchise, making the sequel a Wii U exclusive is probably not a good start   (ign.com) divider line 76
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2012-09-14 03:52:17 PM

rocky_howard: frepnog: I expect more from my gaming time and from my gaming dollar at this point.

Well, personal opinion and everything.

Anyway, games like Bayonetta and GOW still have their place in gaming. It's the only type of games where you have pure control over your characters body and movement. Also the only one where you can have outrageous jackiechan/matrix/300/dragonball style battles with you actually controlling the action. That's a big thing.

You don't enjoy it? Great. Now don't be disparaging towards it.


Bayonetta is not going to blow you, dude.
 
2012-09-14 03:54:09 PM

scottydoesntknow: frepnog: with games like the Mass Effect series, Skyrim, Borderlands and others either already here or just over the horizon

Dishonored!!!!

[www.justpushstart.com image 619x599]


That, X-Com: Enemy Unknown and Borderlands 2 are pretty much my most anticipated.
 
2012-09-14 03:58:07 PM

rocky_howard: frepnog: I expect more from my gaming time and from my gaming dollar at this point.

Well, personal opinion and everything.

Anyway, games like Bayonetta and GOW still have their place in gaming. It's the only type of games where you have pure control over your characters body and movement. Also the only one where you can have outrageous jackiechan/matrix/300/dragonball style battles with you actually controlling the action. That's a big thing.

You don't enjoy it? Great. Now don't be disparaging towards it.


Personally, I would just be happy if Nintendo cut down on the kiddie shovelware games.Every time I'd go to the store, there would be the 5 most recent in-house titles, and then a flood of bratz/junk license etc games. I buy games on impulse on the spot, and would have preferred to see more normal games. They reached the precrash Atari 2600 level of crap at some point.
 
2012-09-14 03:59:32 PM
No, Bayonetta is not a perfect game. For me personally, the Space Harrier level made me sick, and the game would simply have been better if they ditched every mid-level cutscene which did not introduce a monster, or at least offered a better option to skip it. For those reasons, allow me to introduce a "cool story bro": I penned a review of the game on my web site a long time ago and gave it four-out-of-five for these reasons. That piece of shiat review has become a running gag with my readers, and rightfully so. I missed the point so badly that it hurt. So I say to the people who think of the game as an also-ran: If you expect more from your time and money than the absolute class of its genre, then I can't really help you.
 
2012-09-14 04:00:52 PM
Oh, and the fact this thread has almost been hijacked into a Borderlands discussion pretty much shows the lack of taste we're talking about here.
 
2012-09-14 04:11:18 PM

frepnog: rocky_howard: frepnog: I expect more from my gaming time and from my gaming dollar at this point.

Well, personal opinion and everything.

Anyway, games like Bayonetta and GOW still have their place in gaming. It's the only type of games where you have pure control over your characters body and movement. Also the only one where you can have outrageous jackiechan/matrix/300/dragonball style battles with you actually controlling the action. That's a big thing.

You don't enjoy it? Great. Now don't be disparaging towards it.

Bayonetta is not going to blow you, dude.


I respect that you have a different opinion of the game, however I also see this guys point. It does sound less like constructive critism when you keep saying the game was designed for 14 year old. There are shout outs and nods to different things in that game that a 14 year old wouldn't understand, not to mention having insanely well done game design should not be age-restrictive.

I get where you're coming from, but disagree with the way you're phrasing it.
 
2012-09-14 04:11:35 PM
The Wii was something different and if you were open to the idea of motion controls, a very fun experience. The Wii U is basically a PS3 with a display built into the controller.
 
2012-09-14 04:13:03 PM

Electrify: The Wii was something different and if you were open to the idea of motion controls, a very fun experience. The Wii U is basically a PS3 with a display built into the controller.


Yeah but it's way more powerful than the PS3, isn't it?
 
2012-09-14 04:29:51 PM

GavinTheAlmighty: Electrify: The Wii was something different and if you were open to the idea of motion controls, a very fun experience. The Wii U is basically a PS3 with a display built into the controller.

Yeah but it's way more powerful than the PS3, isn't it?


Well, while IBM or Nintendo haven't released the specifics yet (per WiiU wiki), a few companies have said it's power is about on par with the current PS3/Xbox 360. The one I linked below is Tekken producer Katsuhiro Harada commenting on it.

Link
 
2012-09-14 04:32:54 PM
My wife is weirdly obsessed with the title character in Bayonetta.

I'm okay with this.
 
2012-09-14 04:34:59 PM

ModernLuddite: My wife is weirdly obsessed with the title character in Bayonetta.

I'm okay with this.


My wife isn't obsessed or anything, but she liked the character as well.
 
2012-09-14 04:49:14 PM

Mike_LowELL: So I say to the people who think of the game as an also-ran: If you expect more from your time and money than the absolute class of its genre, then I can't really help you.


It could learn a lot from Batman: Arkham $location's combat.
 
2012-09-14 04:57:47 PM

sprawl15: Mike_LowELL: So I say to the people who think of the game as an also-ran: If you expect more from your time and money than the absolute class of its genre, then I can't really help you.

It could learn a lot from Batman: Arkham $location's combat.


I am going to have to agree with this. Batman: Arkham Asylum™ revolutionized the genre by removing skill and reflexes, allowing me to truly feel what being The Dark Knight™ is like. Take note, Japan. You guys keep falling back on tired buzzwords like "gameplay", "depth", and "immersion". But then Batman™ came onto the scene with "narrative", "cutscenes", and "Batman™". I hope that, one day, there is an entire medium dedicated to the production of long strings of cutscenes, possibly exceeding two hours in length. This way, you can remove the interactive components from video games and achieve what video games are truly about.
 
2012-09-14 05:07:48 PM

Mike_LowELL: I hope that, one day, there is an entire medium dedicated to the production of long strings of cutscenes, possibly exceeding two hours in length. This way, you can remove the interactive components from video games and achieve what video games are truly about.


isn't that just the "metal gear solid" series?
 
2012-09-14 05:12:46 PM
Bayonetta was and is still the best game currently available in its genre. The final boss fight is one of the most memorable and awesome fights I've personally have ever played. The action, pace, and game mechanics really spoiled me and because of that I was really bored to tears trying to play Batman: Arkham Asylum and the new God of War. I am seriously thinking of picking up a Wii U just for this game alone. If they add sequel to Vanquish for me it would be a definite purchase.
 
2012-09-14 05:14:20 PM

sprawl15: Mike_LowELL: So I say to the people who think of the game as an also-ran: If you expect more from your time and money than the absolute class of its genre, then I can't really help you.

It could learn a lot from Batman: Arkham $location's combat.


Or Assassin's Creed.
 
2012-09-14 05:23:55 PM

frepnog: Bayonetta is not going to blow you, dude.


Oh look, the guy who can't set up a proper argument against a game surprisingly descends into name-calling without any provocation.

Good to see a 40 year old is so mature.
 
2012-09-14 05:59:10 PM

rocky_howard: frepnog: Bayonetta is not going to blow you, dude.

Oh look, the guy who can't set up a proper argument against a game surprisingly descends into name-calling without any provocation.

Good to see a 40 year old is so mature.


What name did I call someone? I really had no idea that there were people that would defend bayonetta so fiercely. Why people are getting up in arms about a forgettable game that did so well that its sequel was canned until Nintendo stepped in is leaving me a bit perplexed. Meh, whatever.
 
2012-09-14 06:11:35 PM
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/hot
 
2012-09-14 06:19:25 PM

Electromax: HeartBurnKid: Antimatter: moistD: FF was able to switch to a different console exclusively and still succeed.

True, but the series are basically stand alone titles. Peopel understood why the N64 couldn't cut it, compared tot he CD using playstation.

No, they didn't. Maybe you weren't on teh interwebs then, but the fanboys were around then too, and they whined and cried SO FREAKING MUCH about Squaresoft "betraying" Nintendo. And in the end, it didn't matter at all.

I'm not sure what you're referring to by "it didn't matter at all" but if you mean console sales, I think that FF7-FF9 definitely had an impact on PS1's success vs. N64. Not all of it or even most of it, but it certainly mattered in some respects and Nintendo would've loved to see those games on the 64.

I'm biased because I remember 7-year-old me changing my Christmas list from Nintendo to Sony after I saw those FF7 commercials.


That was kind of my point. All the hue and cry from the fanboy zealots about "BETRAYAL!" and all the screams of "BOYCOTT!" didn't matter at all.
 
2012-09-14 06:33:22 PM
Your butthurt is exquisite, subby.
 
2012-09-14 10:47:19 PM

Tyrone Slothrop: [art.penny-arcade.com image 800x401] 
/hot


Something like that might actually get me to buy one.

Right now it's last-gen tech at next-gen prices. Pass.
 
2012-09-15 05:21:12 AM
I'd rather have bayonetta 2 see the light of day on the WII-U then not at all.

Provided, it doesn't suck horribly.


/please oh please don't ruin this one!
 
2012-09-15 12:21:04 PM

whooter: Right now it's last-gen tech at next-gen prices. Pass.


FAIL on both counts.

It's more powerful than the PS3/360.

It's also gonna come out at just $350
 
2012-09-15 10:19:43 PM

rocky_howard: whooter: Right now it's last-gen tech at next-gen prices. Pass.

FAIL on both counts.

It's more powerful than the PS3/360.

It's also gonna come out at just $350


Yes, but how many different extra waggle toys and other bullshiat do you need to buy too?
 
2012-09-16 10:15:39 PM

Farkn Yaj Yenrac: That's too bad, the first one was pretty fun. Weird as hell, but fun.


Exactly. I was addicted to it for a few weeks, but by the time I got to the part where you're fighting some massive space monster while jumping from asteroid to asteroid in some kind of warp, it just got to odd for me and I couldn't get into it anymore.

It was a worthy follow up game to DMC though. That was just a fantastic game.
 
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