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2012-09-14 12:17:57 PM
The Republicans have been saying all this time that Obamacare will bankrupt the poor, persecuted insurance companies, and the Democrats have been attempting to reassure their base all this time that Obamacare is in no way a gift to the insurance companies. They've both got egg on their faces.
 
2012-09-14 12:25:09 PM

dervish16108: They've both got egg on their faces.


Neither party wants single-payer.

Not single-provider, which is what the British NHS is, before the derpmeisters start up.
 
2012-09-14 12:26:45 PM

hurdboy: dervish16108: They've both got egg on their faces.

Neither party wants single-payer.

Not single-provider, which is what the British NHS is, before the derpmeisters start up.


It is true neither major party wants single-payer. It is socialism.

/why I became a socialist.
 
2012-09-14 12:42:29 PM
You're telling me a bill that was rushed thru Congress that nobody read isn't any good? Insurance companies have more customers than ever at the rates still are going up... Great job Congress!
 
2012-09-14 12:53:19 PM
Does this mean we are eating less boxed macaroni and "cheese" and other "food products" from Kraft?

Because that might be a good thing.
 
2012-09-14 12:55:41 PM

dervish16108: The Republicans have been saying all this time that Obamacare will bankrupt the poor, persecuted insurance companies, and the Democrats have been attempting to reassure their base all this time that Obamacare is in no way a gift to the insurance companies. They've both got egg on their faces.


"Here's a law that requires 30+ million more people to have insurance. Or else." How in anyone's mind was that not going to be a gift to insurance companies?
 
2012-09-14 12:57:46 PM

FarkedOver: It is true neither major party wants single-payer. It is socialism.


If that's true, so is Medicare,the Interstate Highway System.

There are things government does well; taking taxes to fund big expenses is oen of them.

/why I became a socialist.

I'll withhold comment.
 
2012-09-14 01:23:30 PM
Here's what seems irreconcilable to me. The right seems to be against forcing people to buy insurance. But currently the medical costs of uninsured people are borne by the state. The right seems to be against the medical costs of uninsured people being borne by the state. Someone help me out here - what do they really want?
 
2012-09-14 01:27:21 PM

JohnBigBootay: Here's what seems irreconcilable to me. The right seems to be against forcing people to buy insurance. But currently the medical costs of uninsured people are borne by the state. The right seems to be against the medical costs of uninsured people being borne by the state. Someone help me out here - what do they really want?


But is it right for the government to force you to buy a third party product ? Or, if you don't you face a fine.
 
2012-09-14 01:37:33 PM

cig-mkr: JohnBigBootay: Here's what seems irreconcilable to me. The right seems to be against forcing people to buy insurance. But currently the medical costs of uninsured people are borne by the state. The right seems to be against the medical costs of uninsured people being borne by the state. Someone help me out here - what do they really want?

But is it right for the government to force you to buy a third party product ? Or, if you don't you face a fine.


That's one way to do it. Health care must be paid for one way or another. I'd be fine with single payer. But if we aren't gonna go that route then buying insurance seems to be a reasonable expectation. If you refuse to buy insurance you are de facto asking the state to bear your healthcare costs should you incur costs that are above your means - which could happen to anyone any time.
 
2012-09-14 02:21:47 PM

hurdboy: FarkedOver: It is true neither major party wants single-payer. It is socialism.

If that's true, so is Medicare,the Interstate Highway System.

There are things government does well; taking taxes to fund big expenses is oen of them.

/why I became a socialist.

I'll withhold comment.


Socialism is good, I'm glad we can agree.
 
2012-09-14 02:41:31 PM

FarkedOver: Socialism is good, I'm glad we can agree.


For some things. For many others, notsomuch.
 
2012-09-14 02:49:01 PM

hurdboy: FarkedOver: Socialism is good, I'm glad we can agree.

For some things. For many others, notsomuch.


For business it's bad. Good thing I'm not in the business of business.....

/business.
 
2012-09-15 04:38:24 AM
Well, they have to be rolling in the cash after looking at how high my premiums are compared to how little care they are actually willing to give. I just changed jobs to a small company that uses United, and they should at least buy you dinner before farking you up the ass. I'm not too boned, since my wife is under her own plan, but some of my coworkers are paying $600-$800 a month for theirselves and their spouse.
 
2012-09-15 04:46:50 AM

hurdboy: FarkedOver: It is true neither major party wants single-payer. It is socialism.

If that's true, so is Medicare,the Interstate Highway System.

There are things government does well; taking taxes to fund big expenses is oen of them.


That is sorta the primary idea behind government, isn't it?
 
2012-09-15 10:05:29 AM

bencoon: That is sorta the primary idea behind government, isn't it?


No. Governments exist to collectively protect individual rights, using coercive force if necessary.
 
2012-09-15 01:03:37 PM
When the CEO receives over $1 billion in compensation for one year, I think the company is big enough to qualify for the Dow Jones.

Of course when said company is a middleman in the healthcare industry, I also think it should be criminal. Health care is an essential utility. There's no billion dollar CEOs out there making sure Duke Energy gets its money.

\Duke sucks
\\they buy regulators for that, much less expensive
 
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