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2012-09-14 12:07:40 PM  

Publikwerks: TNel: Publikwerks:

Ok, backstory. I had a Video iPod(the 5th gen) and was happy with it. Got it in 06. It died around 2010, at which point I started looking at an iPod touch. However, I also started looking at Android devices, and outside of phones, there didn't seem to be much at the time.

Archos was out in 09 and had a bunch out in 10 that out spec'd the Touch, the Dell Streak was out in June 2010 and again that was better than a Touch. The thing with Android was it was still very young in late 2009 and early 2010. It didn't get much support until version 2.2.

The market for portable media players was VERY small and that was quickly filled in with tablets. The fact that Apple still makes a Touch is crazy in my eyes.

Well, I saw a few of the tablets and whatnot, and I wasn't impressed. If I remember right, they were in beta with the first version that supported flash (2.2 I think?) Had they had that squared away, I might be using an Android device right now.


So the iPod Touch had Flash support? That's news to me.


Can we all just agree to hate on smug assholes regardless of what they use for mobile devices?


Agree
 
2012-09-14 12:08:20 PM  
You get more mileage from a cheap set of sneakers
 
2012-09-14 12:12:21 PM  

LasersHurt: TNel: Molavian: I used to hate Apple products. Mostly due to the smug f*cksticks that seemed to like using them.

Then I got an iPhone 4, then an iPad, then an iPhone 4S, then an iPad 2, then a Macbook Air.

They work at what they do, and do a great job of it.

Now I don't mind using Apple products, but I've transferred my hate over to smug f*cksticks completely.

You just converted to the otherside is what you did.

Right, because there's no way to own a product from a manufacturer without "converting to their side."

/guess that makes me a polytheist


He doesn't own a product he own's the entire line of products.
 
2012-09-14 12:12:37 PM  
Wife is due for an upgrade (Verizon) in October and I'm pretty well sure she'll go with whatever iPhone is there at the time.

/ made her swear that she's at least consider the Samsung Galaxy s3.
// she'll still go for whatever iteration of iPhone is available from Verizon.
/// farking love my Motorola Droid Razr Maxx.
//// did have an Apple iPhone 3 (and it was fine.)
 
2012-09-14 12:12:49 PM  

Confabulat: I honestly don't get the fanboy nonsense. Is there anything the iPhone 5 is doing that my year-old Android can't do? What exactly? I can find more games and apps than I can ever use. And hell, Android, SD card, I can pretty much use anything I want on it which I find that Apple seems to frown on. This would annoy me often.

I just don't get it, I guess.


Being seen carrying the newest portable gadget is an easy way for them to prop up their frail ego - an important ability in a Kardasian-centric society.
 
2012-09-14 12:13:06 PM  

Noticeably F.A.T.: Publikwerks: Do you have 2 batteries?

Yes. I have an extended battery in my phone right now, plus the original that I can quickly swap out if the extended one goes bad.

/Assuming of course I can find the bastard.


Doesn't count if you can't find it. =)
 
2012-09-14 12:13:31 PM  

TNel: The market for portable media players was VERY small and that was quickly filled in with tablets. The fact that Apple still makes a Touch is crazy in my eyes.


Eh, it's basically their main music player now. And they've been pushing it as a mobile gaming device for a couple years. They just make the the classic iPod for people who still need to carry every song they own at all times.
 
2012-09-14 12:15:32 PM  

Confabulat: I honestly don't get the fanboy nonsense. Is there anything the iPhone 5 is doing that my year-old Android can't do? What exactly? I can find more games and apps than I can ever use. And hell, Android, SD card, I can pretty much use anything I want on it which I find that Apple seems to frown on. This would annoy me often.

I just don't get it, I guess.


Yes, everyone who buys products you don't are fanboys.
 
2012-09-14 12:17:03 PM  

whosits_112: Confabulat: I honestly don't get the fanboy nonsense. Is there anything the iPhone 5 is doing that my year-old Android can't do? What exactly? I can find more games and apps than I can ever use. And hell, Android, SD card, I can pretty much use anything I want on it which I find that Apple seems to frown on. This would annoy me often.

I just don't get it, I guess.

I've had a few Android phones. After less than a year, they get buggy, slow, and annoying after a while. I would do updates whenever they came out, and it never seemed to make things better. And I don't have the time or inclination to fiddle around with Cyanogen mods or whatever is out there.

I then bought the iPhone 4 when it came out for Verizon (February of 2011 I think?), so I've had it for over a year now. Has not slowed down or gotten buggy, and has run perfectly fine right out of the box.

Now, yes, I admit, I'm not a programmer. I don't mod my electronics (except when I installed a larger hard drive for my PS3 system, but that's easy shiat). I have seen a lot of folks on Fark talk about how superior Android is, but only for the fact that they can mod it and tweak it and do crazy things with it. Admittedly, it's harder to do with iOS. Some of the Android fans look down on anyone who really don't care about doing such things with their phone operating system. But, seriously, some people don't want to futz around with their phone like that. It's not because we are stupid, it's just that we don't have that need to fiddle and tweak. I like that the iPhone works exactly as I want it to. That's why I'm a fan.


I understand that mentality. I recommend Apple to most people I know for that reason. Most people don't think of things they want to do with their electronics, and then set out to do them. With Apple thay would be a royal pain. But when iOS everywhere they will come across a lot of cool stuff on the market, their friends, or advertisements. And they will use them, and usually not really question what they can't do with it since they've never really tried to do something not offered to them first.

Android phans tend to be the opposite. Their are pros to iOS over Android, but the inquisitive nature tend to over ride the cons. I'm not a techie either, or a programmer. But I like rooting my device to run speciality apps and tether with my unlimited plan. Tethering alone probably saves me thousands of dollars. I also bring a prime infinity where ever I go so any serious applications I can do much more than a little phone, and don't have to pay data to another device. As for my laptop and desktop, well I easily saved ten grand for the same specs or benchmarks.

Bugginess does get aggravating on androids. I feel there is always a risk with any new device you have to research all the different models, and I seriously lol when i see people at best buy pick up last years galaxy tab going for $400.

Apple takes the thinking out of it. That alone makes it worthwhile to most people. At least for consumer devices. I would not vouch for their laptops and desktops at all.
 
2012-09-14 12:17:13 PM  

adragontattoo:

MS does one thing well with PC Hardware and peripherals. They over-engineer the hell out of them. I wish they would have those engineers work on the Xbox360 but meh. The windows phones I have messed with arent bad at all, but they still need some refinement.

All of the various MS mice and Keyboards I have, work without issue. I have a Trackball Explorer from 2002(if not earlier) that still works with no issues, Those mice have a cultlike following. My Zune and ZuneHD have no real issues other than the battery in the Zune is barely holding a charge anymore. Both of them have gone all over the US with me and worked with minimal issues in -12F to 115F temps.


In many ways, I appreciate what Microsoft has contributed to the world. Some of the things you mentioned are on the list. I'll add to it that Visual Studio and SQL server are both pretty excellent (if not easily replaceable).
But their incessant need to upgrade and phase things out that don't need to be upgraded and phased out (like their last 3 OSs, for instance, or MS Office), and their constant need to force you to upgrade hardware because their new OS won't support what you just bought 2 years ago anymore, etc, etc... That is all just a little ridiculous. My final point on the list is that they ALWAYS try to create a competing product when someone else out there (like Apple) creates something. They seem to have succeeded pretty well with the XBox360, I'll give them that. But they have failed across the board with their phones and MP3 players. Don't even mention their attempts to beat Palm at the PDA.

I sometimes wish there were a way to just smack them in the head and tell them to stick to what they know and let some other companies make things.
 
2012-09-14 12:17:46 PM  

Farking Canuck: Surpheon: Yup, the iPhone has become the Blackberry'esque boring option for old people who just want their hand computer to work.

Honest question: do you believe that Android or Windows 'hand computers' don't 'just work'?


My boss uses an iPhone and most of my colleagues do also, and the majority of apps I use were found and recommended by them. So for the same reason I am pretty much locked into Windows PCs and laptops, I am similarly locked into iPhone (I probably should have stated that I use it pretty heavily for work and rely on some fairly specialized apps).

My wife has an Android. Works fine.
 
2012-09-14 12:18:24 PM  

MayContainHorseGluten: Confabulat: I honestly don't get the fanboy nonsense. Is there anything the iPhone 5 is doing that my year-old Android can't do? What exactly? I can find more games and apps than I can ever use. And hell, Android, SD card, I can pretty much use anything I want on it which I find that Apple seems to frown on. This would annoy me often.

I just don't get it, I guess.

Yes, everyone who buys products you don't are fanboys.


Dude - are you seriously denying that Apple Fanbois exist? Your Flat Earther card is showing, 'G.
 
2012-09-14 12:18:57 PM  

thornhill: As a Mac person, I really don't get the people who buy each new version of the iPhone.


As a developer, I can answer you: we need to test our apps on various platforms. Our Android devs are always pulling their hair out because they can't just buy every model out there when someone reports a bug...

/though I'm sticking with my 4 personally, iOS6 seems to have sped it up
//the 5 will be a company phone
 
2012-09-14 12:20:50 PM  

The Only Sane Man In Florida: You could stamp the apple logo on a dog turd and apple fans would be throwing their money at there local apple store employees to get their hands on it.


This is what Android users actually think?

/you guys are crazy
//keep telling yourself this, then you might actually believe it
 
2012-09-14 12:22:15 PM  

Abe Vigoda's Ghost: I don't think there was ever any doubt that Apple would sell a bunch of these.
Still does not make it a cutting edge phone.


This +100. It's an upgrade. Nothing all that new, but an upgrade nonetheless. Not really designed to bring in those who use BB or Android.
 
2012-09-14 12:25:37 PM  
I like iPhones because they feel faster and more stable. They're also a hell of a lot nicer on the outside. I mean, they just feel and look better than a vast majority of Android devices. That's why I use an iPhone 4. I have an HTC One X and a Xoom as well, but I decided I'm done with android for a while. I've just been burned too much. I liked those devices because they feel nice and look good (though the HTC has 6 farking dead pixels that taunt me whenever the screen goes to black), but the software just isn't where it needs to be. Honeycomb was especially shiatty... Just a big ol' "fark you" to tablet users.

Android as an OS just leaves a lot to be desired. Crashes, app incompatibility, laginess (how can multitasking be so farking hard with a dual- or quad-core processor?!), random bugs.... And Jelly Bean, which is supposed to be a huge step up in terms of speed and stability, is unavailable (for the Xoom that's partly my fault... I got tired of waiting forever for ICS and loaded a custom ROM, which will be a pain in the dick to switch over from... who'da guessed they'd come out with JB right away?). I'm done with farking Android for a bit, no matter how good the specs are on that plasticky POS Galaxy S3.
 
2012-09-14 12:27:31 PM  

MayContainHorseGluten: The Only Sane Man In Florida: You could stamp the apple logo on a dog turd and apple fans would be throwing their money at there local apple store employees to get their hands on it.

This is what Android users actually think?

/you guys are crazy
//keep telling yourself this, then you might actually believe it



iOS is fine, no need to jailbreak. Everything just works - that's exactly what My Fair Lady wants. She needs the phone to make sense out of the box. I support her in that.

/that said, Apple has built such a loyal fanbase that they can bank on users jumping from the previous version directly to the newest. And these users aren't necessarily technically competent either. They just know that iPhone 5 must be better than their year-old iPhone 4.
 
2012-09-14 12:27:47 PM  
My HTC Incredible (the original) runs Linux. Can the iPhone 5 do that? Can you write some code in Emacs and compile it with GCC on the iPhone 5? Can you SSH into a server on the iPhone 5? I don't think so. Apple doesn't let you use the iPhone for any purpose that they don't approve of. You can't even replace the battery. I noticed one commenter saying he was upgrading to the 5 because his 4S battery is shot. He must be rich or something to think that buying a new phone is a reasonable fix for a bad battery. The iPhone is for iMbeciles.
 
2012-09-14 12:29:39 PM  
Butt, Butt, Butt........ It plays songs!

www.saynotocrack.com
 
2012-09-14 12:29:45 PM  
A seriously overpriced product is used as a fashion/status symbol. I'd be grossed out by such consumerism but it's been going on since ancient times.If it wasn't an Apple product it would be something else you'd be packing around or wearing.
 
2012-09-14 12:31:07 PM  

ChuDogg: I thought the iPhone 4 was supposed to be the stop gap? That's what everyone said last year anyways.


I think we're on stage 4 of the iProduct life cycle.

1: Apple releases much-hyped iProduct that is prettier and easier to use than the competition
2: New iProduct sells like hotcakes. Apple fanboys get smug.
3: Competition catches up. Apple fanboys remain smug.
4: Competition innovates further while Apple releases iterative updates. Apple fanboys remain smug.
 
2012-09-14 12:32:56 PM  

whosits_112: I've had a few Android phones. After less than a year, they get buggy, slow, and annoying after a while. I would do updates whenever they came out, and it never seemed to make things better. And I don't have the time or inclination to fiddle around with Cyanogen mods or whatever is out there.

I then bought the iPhone 4 when it came out for Verizon (February of 2011 I think?), so I've had it for over a year now. Has not slowed down or gotten buggy, and has run perfectly fine right out of the box.


You're confusing the difference between two time periods with the difference in operating systems. Over time, as software becomes more and more mature, less and less gets added to it. When I had a 486/33, upgrading Word made it almost intolerable. You could run the latest office on a 5 year old PC and it would be fine.

Likewise, my HTC Magic ran like a dog after some upgrades, but my Nexus S originally had Gingerbread 18 months ago. It's been upgraded to ICS and now is on Jellybean and it's still pretty fast.
 
2012-09-14 12:33:28 PM  
NowhereMon: "That's funny, I placed an order for one for my wife like 2 minutes ago."

But you'll have to wait like *2 extra weeks* !!

/ gadget blogs write the dumbest shiat
// sadly, because people will click on it.
 
2012-09-14 12:33:46 PM  
There sure are a lot of people here who absolutely refuse to stop liking what other people don't like. I don't like it.
 
2012-09-14 12:36:00 PM  
i46.tinypic.com
 
2012-09-14 12:36:16 PM  
for all you wankers whining about the lack of NFC support - how often have you used NFC?

according to the guy at american express who's in charge of getting NFC adopted, widespread adoption is 4-6 years out. so what's the point of including an NFC chip now, and driving up the price of the phone?

Link
 
Pav
2012-09-14 12:38:26 PM  
4 years 2 different iPhones and I have never had 1 problem with either of them. I'm on my phone constantly. I will upgrade to the 5 from the 4 because the speed difference will be major.

That being said I will stick with iPhone because I have a Mac an iPad and apple tv. Yes I'm traped, but at least I'm trapped with products that are high quality and don't break On me.

I can afford it so who cares.
 
2012-09-14 12:39:18 PM  

MayContainHorseGluten: Abe Vigoda's Ghost: I don't think there was ever any doubt that Apple would sell a bunch of these.
Still does not make it a cutting edge phone.

This +100. It's an upgrade. Nothing all that new, but an upgrade nonetheless. Not really designed to bring in those who use BB or Android.


See, I find this amusing, because for the first time Apple upgraded every single component in their phone at the same time.

The CPU is ARM's brand new A15 instead of the older A9's everyone has been using for the last couple of years. CPU performance is roughly doubled.

The GPU is 2x the performance of the last iPhone.

The screen is larger and the color saturation and color accuracy are improved.

The wireless functions are upgraded to Intel's brand spanking new low power version of LTE, WiFi, and Bluetooth that are faster while drawing less power.

The cameras are improved.

The battery life is improved despite the device being thinner and lighter.

In the past, a couple of components would be improved while the rest stayed the same, but this year they upgraded everything at once.
 
2012-09-14 12:40:02 PM  

TNel: He doesn't own a product he own's the entire line of products.


There's an ecosystem across the products that works well together. While you don't have to go all-mac to use the stuff, doing so is probably really nice. I know other people who are all-mac and enjoy that all of their stuff is easily and neatly shared amongst them.

Still don't have to be a "fanboy" to do that.
 
2012-09-14 12:43:27 PM  

Jon iz teh kewl: Flakeloaf: [www.thetelecomblog.com image 313x237]

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My default in-person send off to a person I know I'll see again soon is "...and I'll see YOU....at StacyCon '94".

/about three people have gotten it in the few years I've been doing it
 
2012-09-14 12:45:38 PM  
I went to upgrade this morning online at ATT... I was able to select the iPhone 5 with a delivery date of Sept 21, but when I went to customize the account options, I could no longer select a $5 text plan, as I text very rarely. Now the only options are unlimited for 20 bucks, or no plan which is 20 cents per text, 30 cents per MMS... therefore, I cancelled the upgrade.

F*CK YOU, AT&T. I refuse to get ass raped by you changing your shiatty "plans" each time a new phone comes out. I already got shafted out of my unlimited data when I upgraded to the iPhone 4, as the sales monkey insisted I was not eligible (I had it since the beginning. Further calls to AT&T were met with assertions that yes, I was eligible but that it was too late now- basically telling me to go piss up a rope.)

Again, F*CK YOU VERY MUCH.
 
2012-09-14 12:45:58 PM  

Prank Call of Cthulhu: There sure are a lot of people here who absolutely refuse to stop liking what other people don't like. I don't like it.


Brilliant.
 
2012-09-14 12:46:25 PM  

shiate: for all you wankers whining about the lack of NFC support - how often have you used NFC?

according to the guy at american express who's in charge of getting NFC adopted, widespread adoption is 4-6 years out. so what's the point of including an NFC chip now, and driving up the price of the phone?

Link


And flash was going to die in 1 year after iPhones were not going to support it. Projections like that are about as bad as the Mayan calander saying we are all going to die soon.
 
2012-09-14 12:46:42 PM  

The Quaalude Renaissance: Is there an Android app that will cause people to envy my non iPhone?


Yeah, it's called the OS.
 
2012-09-14 12:47:47 PM  

MayContainHorseGluten: thornhill: As a Mac person, I really don't get the people who buy each new version of the iPhone.

As a developer, I can answer you: we need to test our apps on various platforms. Our Android devs are always pulling their hair out because they can't just buy every model out there when someone reports a bug...

/though I'm sticking with my 4 personally, iOS6 seems to have sped it up
//the 5 will be a company phone


How many of the people camping out of the Mac store the night before the release are actually developers?
 
2012-09-14 12:48:37 PM  

The Only Sane Man In Florida: Apple: Let's make it longer and get rid of the now-standard-on-everything plug we've been using for 10 years!
Apple product fans: TAKE MY MONEY! AND TAKE MORE SO I CAN HAVE A NEW DOCK THAT IS COMPATIBLE WITH IT!

You could stamp the apple logo on a dog turd and apple fans would be throwing their money at there local apple store employees to get their hands on it.


It's probably already been pointed out but Apple showed in the press conference that they are also releasing an adapter so you don't have to repurchase all the accessories.
 
2012-09-14 12:48:40 PM  

Confabulat: I honestly don't get the fanboy nonsense. Is there anything the iPhone 5 is doing that my year-old Android can't do?


any statement where you refer to others as fanboys in conjunction with claims like "my [device X Y Z] does [function A B C] just as good or better" instantly invalidates your argument.
 
2012-09-14 12:53:03 PM  

cards fan by association: The Only Sane Man In Florida: Apple: Let's make it longer and get rid of the now-standard-on-everything plug we've been using for 10 years!
Apple product fans: TAKE MY MONEY! AND TAKE MORE SO I CAN HAVE A NEW DOCK THAT IS COMPATIBLE WITH IT!

You could stamp the apple logo on a dog turd and apple fans would be throwing their money at there local apple store employees to get their hands on it.

It's probably already been pointed out but Apple showed in the press conference that they are also releasing an adapter so you don't have to repurchase all the accessories.


And the adapter is said to not work with everything so you will have to buy it and find out if it works for you or not.
 
2012-09-14 12:54:52 PM  

biyaaatci: my alt's alt's alt: i used to work for apple. never owned a single one of their products. simple, uncustomizable crap for simple people who prefer to give a company money to think for them.

i worked in IT and apple users are by far the least "computer illiterate". and you should see the internal memos at apple on how they strive to keep their customer base uninformed and uneducated about their products...


How beautifully ironic.
 
2012-09-14 12:55:33 PM  

numbquil: My HTC Incredible (the original) runs Linux. Can the iPhone 5 do that? Can you write some code in Emacs and compile it with GCC on the iPhone 5? Can you SSH into a server on the iPhone 5? I don't think so. Apple doesn't let you use the iPhone for any purpose that they don't approve of. You can't even replace the battery. I noticed one commenter saying he was upgrading to the 5 because his 4S battery is shot. He must be rich or something to think that buying a new phone is a reasonable fix for a bad battery. The iPhone is for iMbeciles.


Why in God's name would I want to write code on a 4 inch display? But yes, you can. Using vnc or citrix, you can do this stuff on ios devices.

I can view flash websites on my touch. There are ways to do what you need to do. Getting into a pissing match is just geek bravado. Appreciate what each platform brings to the table and make informed decisions. And respect the informed decisions of others.
 
2012-09-14 12:56:07 PM  

LasersHurt: On a yearly cycle, does being 6 months off hurt that much?


Hipster: "I was into [some obscure thing] before it was 'cool.'"
Nerd: "I was using [some emerging technology] since it was in beta."

In short, to a nerd, six months of not using the latest, greatest is in fact, very painful. But they use the same reasoning to shower hatred upon Apple fanboys who have to have the latest, greatest iGadget the day it comes out. Cognitive dissonance immunity is key to being a nerd, I guess.
 
2012-09-14 12:58:46 PM  

robhidalgo: biyaaatci: my alt's alt's alt: i used to work for apple. never owned a single one of their products. simple, uncustomizable crap for simple people who prefer to give a company money to think for them.

i worked in IT and apple users are by far the least "computer illiterate". and you should see the internal memos at apple on how they strive to keep their customer base uninformed and uneducated about their products...

How beautifully ironic.


Let's see if he responds to you and repeats his mistake, like he did with me.
 
2012-09-14 12:59:03 PM  

Zizzowop: protectyourlimbs: Zizzowop: studiomusic: Isn't hating Apple because they are Apple just like loving Apple because they are Apple?
"Oh, look at how hip I am, I love Apple!"
"Oh, look at how hip I am, I hate Apple!"

Yeah, that's what I was trying to say to someone else in this thread and I agree.

Depends, if the reason are "just because" then both sides are just as stupid. To me I dont like the iphone as much as my torch but that doesnt mean I hate the iphone, for me its the iphone users I find annoying.

I was at a bar a few weeks ago and had the nerve to pull out a non iphone in the manayunk/Philly area and immediately the plus 40yr old woman dressed like she was in her 20's started to belittle me about my "dumbberry", I told her I wasn't saying my phone was better but I like it better, and asked her to explain why the iphone was a better phone... weather it is or isnt most people who LOVE the iphone enough to look down on those who don't have one don't even know why its better, they just know it is...

Yeah, anyone that does that is pretty lame. I don't even have a smart phone, because I just don't see the need. If I need to go online and check e-mail while I'm out and about, I will typically be somewhere I can bogart WiFi and use my iTouch, or if I need to do any serious stuff, I'll sit down in Starbucks with my laptop and get WiFi there. My phone is for texting and calls-that's it, and you should see the dumb looks I get with that thing.

I love gadgets, always have, but I aint spending a ton of dough on something unless I find a specific need, or it has some feature I just gotta have. My first MP3 player was an Archos-and this was before the iPod was even available. It worked great until the screen crapped out. I still have it because it can record directly into MP3 if I hook it up to my stereo and has no DRM code on the file at all. It's old school, but it serves its purpose.


As stupid as I might sound, this is one of the smartest things I have heard in regards to owning whatever smart phone is the new "it"

Most people have about $100 a month bill for things they will never use or need just because its the thing, not many people can break out of the mindset of just having what they need because other people with "smart" phones might look down on them.

/I do enjoy my blackberry torch but only because I do not pay for it, the second I have to foot the bill its no longer needed
 
2012-09-14 01:03:22 PM  

TNel: cards fan by association: The Only Sane Man In Florida: Apple: Let's make it longer and get rid of the now-standard-on-everything plug we've been using for 10 years!
Apple product fans: TAKE MY MONEY! AND TAKE MORE SO I CAN HAVE A NEW DOCK THAT IS COMPATIBLE WITH IT!

You could stamp the apple logo on a dog turd and apple fans would be throwing their money at there local apple store employees to get their hands on it.

It's probably already been pointed out but Apple showed in the press conference that they are also releasing an adapter so you don't have to repurchase all the accessories.

And the adapter is said to not work with everything so you will have to buy it and find out if it works for you or not.


Who said that? I don't have any accessories, just wondering...
 
2012-09-14 01:03:29 PM  

cards fan by association: It's probably already been pointed out but Apple showed in the press conference that they are also releasing an adapter so you don't have to repurchase all the accessories.


Has your vision pointed out that most of the ipod docks out there built into other devices won't be able to hold an idevice upright when the adapter is put into the dock first?
 
2012-09-14 01:03:54 PM  

Publikwerks: protectyourlimbs: I was at a bar a few weeks ago and had the nerve to pull out a non iphone in the manayunk/Philly area and immediately the plus 40yr old woman dressed like she was in her 20's started to belittle me about my "dumbberry", I told her I wasn't saying my phone was better but I like it better, and asked her to explain why the iphone was a better phone... weather it is or isnt most people who LOVE the iphone enough to look down on those who don't have one don't even know why its better, they just know it is...

She would laugh at my phone
I still rock a flip phone/camera. But it's waterproof up to 10 meters and practically indestructible. Which is what I want in my mobile communications.


I loved the flip phones, would still have one but once my job gave me a phone i decided that even my $30 a month bill was no longer needed, I tried the razor once when it first came out and broke within a week, cingular actually just let me hand back a broken phone with no questions and pick a new one
 
2012-09-14 01:10:26 PM  

swaxhog: Rev.K: Carth: Once someone spends a few hundred dollars in apps they are less likely to jump to another platform.

How the f*ck do you spend "a few hundred dollars" on apps?

My total spend on apps with my Android phone of 18 months is about $10.

Because there's thousands (out of hundreds of thousands) of games and applications that are extremely well done and worth paying money for. I don't have a problem paying people for the work they do and don't expect all software to be free. I also don't balk at paying $1.99 for an app I may use for a week and beat it or move on to something else.


Me, I just use appshopper to wait for apps to go cheap or free. If I like them, I do in-app purchases. If I really like them, I tell other people to buy them. And if the developer does a really consistently good job, then maybe I buy the next game at launch.

I'm all for putting your money where your mouth is, but so many iOS games go free or 99 cents for promotional periods that it's silly to pay full price out of anything more than conscience.
 
2012-09-14 01:13:26 PM  

protectyourlimbs: As stupid as I might sound, this is one of the smartest things I have heard in regards to owning whatever smart phone is the new "it"

Most people have about $100 a month bill for things they will never use or need just because its the thing, not many people can break out of the mindset of just having what they need because other people with "smart" phones might look down on them.

/I do enjoy my blackberry torch but only because I do not pay for it, the second I have to foot the bill its no longer needed


Meh. I spend a lot of money on things I merely enjoy. Movies, concerts, video games, etc. What's one more thing, especially when it's actually not all that much these days?

Then again, I'm not paying Apple/AT&T prices for mine.
 
2012-09-14 01:15:56 PM  

cards fan by association: TNel: cards fan by association: The Only Sane Man In Florida: Apple: Let's make it longer and get rid of the now-standard-on-everything plug we've been using for 10 years!
Apple product fans: TAKE MY MONEY! AND TAKE MORE SO I CAN HAVE A NEW DOCK THAT IS COMPATIBLE WITH IT!

You could stamp the apple logo on a dog turd and apple fans would be throwing their money at there local apple store employees to get their hands on it.

It's probably already been pointed out but Apple showed in the press conference that they are also releasing an adapter so you don't have to repurchase all the accessories.

And the adapter is said to not work with everything so you will have to buy it and find out if it works for you or not.

Who said that? I don't have any accessories, just wondering...


Link I saw a different article talking about it but this one has some info on it.
 
2012-09-14 01:16:44 PM  

JackieRabbit: I'm not buying it because I think it's the most advanced, cutting edge phone. I'm buying it because it's the reliable standard. Yup, the iPhone has become the Blackberry'esque boring option for old people who just want their hand computer to work.

Anyone who thinks an iPhone/iPad is old and busted doesn't know anything about them.


Being the boring standard is not the same as old and busted. It's a good position to be in, and Apple - through their long refresh cycles and clear strategy of not implementing emerging techs until they've matured - seems to agree.
 
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