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2012-09-14 11:01:13 AM  

JackieRabbit: Stephen_Falken: [thinkoutsidetheboxtoday.com image 500x377]

Can't afford Apple products, huh?

Snarky Acronym: I think of iPhones as the Rolex of phones.
You can get a cheaper phone (watch) that works just as well and maybe some cases better (Casio, Omega,Tag, etc).
Some people are willing to pay more for the excellent fit and finish of an iPhone, not to mention apps available, and firmware updates.
I'm in that group.
The resale value of iPhones is quite high so when you purchase a new phone it's really not that big of a hit.

/ haters gunna hate

And, let's not forget that Apple has what I consider to be the best customer service available. Once, I forgot to take my iPhone out the pocket of my shorts. Stupid me decided to do a load of laundry and got it going before beginning to wonder where my phone was. Yup, it was in the final spin cycle. So off I go to the Apple store to buy a new phone. I told the salesman what happened and he told me had it just been a drop in the toilet, they could have salvaged the phone; they had the necessary equipment in the back. But, because of the detergent, this wasn't possible. But no worries. I was offered a replacement phone for $80. I thought I'd get a refurbished phone, but the salesman popped open a new phone, inserted my SIM and connected it to his Mac. Apple downloaded all my apps and settings to the new phone and I was on my way. The only other thing I had to do was sync up with my Mac at home to reload my iTunes playlists.


Same thing(kinda) with my wife's iPad2. Our 1 year old grabbed it and tossed it to the floor, cracking the screen to bejesus and back. I took it in, and they swapped it for a refurb and got it all loaded.

What originally sold me on Apple was the iPod touch. I could play in the iPhone sandbox with all the cool kids without having to pay for a data plan. Android devices at the time didn't have anything comparable.
 
2012-09-14 11:01:31 AM  

Farking Canuck: Zizzowop: The cult of Apple haters, they will buy anything but Apple no matter what.

This is true for me but I contend that my hate is completely justified by Apple's choices and their policy of "our way is the only way".

Apple gives you no choice in: phone design (one size, no keyboard, etc.), the interface program you use (iTunes only), the store you use (App store only). Their attempts to control how I use my phone is offensive ... hence the hate.

Justified hate is different from blind hate. That may be difficult to recognize through your blind love.


That's not justified. That's rationalized. You could always buy another phone without hating Apple's phones.
 
2012-09-14 11:01:46 AM  

The Quaalude Renaissance: Is there an Android app that will cause people to envy my non iPhone?


Nope. There is no demand. Android users don't buy phones based on who will envy them.
 
2012-09-14 11:02:11 AM  
When they put a microphone on an ipad so it is also a phone and big-screen browser then I will consider getting a portable communication-device. They should stop the bull-shiat and combine these electronics into a single all-purpose unit instead of selling them piece-meal.

/and it should be fold-able so I can put it in a pocket
//with solar-cells
///i like hyphenating to-day
 
2012-09-14 11:03:37 AM  

The Quaalude Renaissance: Is there an Android app that will cause people to envy my non iPhone?


"battery changer" should do the trick. It's an app, standard on most droid phones, that allows you to change your effing battery. BRILLIANT! The other one is "external storage".
 
2012-09-14 11:03:54 AM  

stuhayes2010: Apple could invent a tricorder and a few farkers will still hate it.


Sure ... but we will be sending in our hateful comments using tricorders made from other companies years earlier.
 
2012-09-14 11:04:09 AM  

Farking Canuck: Surpheon: Yup, the iPhone has become the Blackberry'esque boring option for old people who just want their hand computer to work.

Honest question: do you believe that Android or Windows 'hand computers' don't 'just work'?


I had one that totally didn't work. Had Windows Mobile on it. Then I used my brothers iphone, and I was like "Crap, my phone sucks"
 
2012-09-14 11:05:32 AM  

fireclown: fluffy2097: Jon iz teh kewl: or buy the $999 GPS application

Oh wow. I bought GPS software and a GPS receiver and a computer to run it on for less then that.

/P.T. Barnum's spirit is clearly alive and well.
//A fool and his money are soon parted


help me out. Is that a joke? If not, what does $999 buy you on an Iphone, GPS wise?


not much. in order to get your FULL $999 worth i can program u a custom app for $999 that does EXACTLY what Google Earth does, but does it WITHOUT ADS
*AND* WITH a british woman voice
 
2012-09-14 11:05:51 AM  

fireclown: The Quaalude Renaissance: Is there an Android app that will cause people to envy my non iPhone?

"battery changer" should do the trick. It's an app, standard on most droid phones, that allows you to change your effing battery. BRILLIANT! The other one is "external storage".


Do you have 2 batteries?
 
2012-09-14 11:06:59 AM  
Which is more expensive, an apple addiction or heroin?
 
2012-09-14 11:07:09 AM  

Farking Canuck: stuhayes2010: Apple could invent a tricorder and a few farkers will still hate it.

Sure ... but we will be sending in our hateful comments using tricorders made from other companies years earlier.


You mean the Samsung Galaxy V Quadcorder?
 
2012-09-14 11:07:53 AM  

madgonad: NFC is popping up all over. This article explains why they deliberately gimped their own phone by removing antennas to allow a thinner device. Frequencies are known years in advance. All the manufactures knew about the new frequencies over a year ago. Android phones being released almost im ...


From your Link: "The reasons, as always, are somewhat technical but at a high level pretty simple. Suffice it to say that at a high level this is a design decision which makes the phone as small and light as it is (it really is light, almost alarmingly so) and enables it to support a wide number of LTE bands, rather than some major oversight like I've seen it portrayed. "

It seems we're both partially correct.

As far as NFC, it's "popping up," yes, but it's certainly not Main Stream yet. Like I said, it'll blow up this year.
 
2012-09-14 11:08:48 AM  
They could offer a block of compressed rat turds as the iPhone 5 and the results would be the same.
 
2012-09-14 11:09:01 AM  

fireclown: The Quaalude Renaissance: Is there an Android app that will cause people to envy my non iPhone?

"battery changer" should do the trick. It's an app, standard on most droid phones, that allows you to change your effing battery. BRILLIANT! The other one is "external storage".


I've never had the need to change batteries due to a charge since I started using these things in the mid-90's. The only instances of battery changes has been to replace a failed battery. This is something I can still have done on any idevice.

The external storage bit is a bigger-ish deal, but the battery argument, to me, is just noise.
 
2012-09-14 11:09:37 AM  

kab: I guess the 99% isn't as cash strapped as they claim to be. Huh.


This.
 
2012-09-14 11:09:44 AM  
Isn't hating Apple because they are Apple just like loving Apple because they are Apple?
"Oh, look at how hip I am, I love Apple!"
"Oh, look at how hip I am, I hate Apple!"
 
2012-09-14 11:10:15 AM  

The Bestest: LasersHurt: It depends. On a yearly cycle, does being 6 months off hurt that much?

Not what I'm getting at.
In the numerous patent suit threads, a constant pro-Apple argument was that the first couple of iPhone iterations introduced new features that everyone else began copying after. The iPhone 5 offers nothing new (unless you're counting the "Lightning" port) and actually lacks features that are becoming standard.


I understand what you're saying, but not the point. Yes, maybe at the beginning they were more innovative, and now less so. What's the importance of this? Just that it's changed?
 
2012-09-14 11:10:22 AM  

Publikwerks: Farking Canuck: Surpheon: Yup, the iPhone has become the Blackberry'esque boring option for old people who just want their hand computer to work.

Honest question: do you believe that Android or Windows 'hand computers' don't 'just work'?

I had one that totally didn't work. Had Windows Mobile on it. Then I used my brothers iphone, and I was like "Crap, my phone sucks"


Sure ... there have been some lemons in the past. There probably will be in the future as well.

It was more of a general question about the platform and not a specific phone.
 
kab
2012-09-14 11:10:28 AM  

Carth: True, but if you ask most people: "wouldn't you like to just be able to take out your phone and hit "ok" to pay for things instead of a using a credit or debit card" they seem to like the idea.


All this proves is that most people are farking retarded.
 
2012-09-14 11:10:34 AM  

Cormee: jaybeezey: I've been pretty happy with my 4s, no plans to upgrade in the near future.

This is pretty much what every 4s owner I know has been saying.

I'm meeting a fanboy later so it'll be interesting to see what his plans are in this respect.


Why would anyone replace a perfectly good phone that's only one year old? Shiat, my iPhone 4 is two years old and as much as I *want* all of the new features that come with the new iPhone, I have a hard time parting with it because it still does everything I want it to do. And I qualify for the full upgrade pricing, so it would only be $399 (I would want the 64GB model).

I know I won't get some of the features in iOS 6, but is there really that big a difference between the 4S and the 5 that would make someone want to pay top dollar to upgrade?
 
2012-09-14 11:10:55 AM  

studiomusic: Isn't hating Apple because they are Apple just like loving Apple because they are Apple?
"Oh, look at how hip I am, I love Apple!"
"Oh, look at how hip I am, I hate Apple!"


Yes, but for some reason nobody will admit this.
 
2012-09-14 11:12:22 AM  
apple should come out with a circumcision kit, just to further polarize fark.
 
2012-09-14 11:12:23 AM  
Who would have thought that 10 years ago, people would go so batshiat crazy over a farking PHONE? Aren't we sill in a sort of recession?

/Typing this on my 'entry' level myTouchQ, which does everything I need it to do, and more
/On a prepaid $30 Tmobile plan with unlimited txt and 5gb of 4g data
 
2012-09-14 11:12:24 AM  

Surpheon: Mawson of the Antarctic: I wonder if there's some kind of psychology of Numbers without an S attached to them.

This is a bigger change (bigger screen) than going from 4 to 4S - or even from 3gs to 4 for that matter. I'll be moving from my 3gs to a 5 next month.

I'm not buying it because I think it's the most advanced, cutting edge phone. I'm buying it because it's the reliable standard. Yup, the iPhone has become the Blackberry'esque boring option for old people who just want their hand computer to work.


Anyone who thinks an iPhone/iPad is old and busted doesn't know anything about them. I can't address Android's capabilities, since I don't use one. I've played with one and it seemed a good, solid device with a good interface. Is it better than Apple's? I don't know, but Android users seem pleased with it. I do know that when I find a video on the net and want to show it to my wife, I just point it at my television (I have an Apple TV too) and double-tap my screen. There's the content playing on my TV, being streamed over my wireless network. I can do the same thing with my iMac and Macbook Pro.

Android users, do these devices have similar functionality? (serious question)

/doesn't get the us against Apple mentality and never has
 
2012-09-14 11:12:26 AM  
It's still not appealing
 
2012-09-14 11:12:28 AM  
I harbor no love or hate for Apple. I just don't understand the religious following they have. But hey, good for them.

I think the iPhone does a great job at making a smart phone for dumb people. Not saying anyone who uses one is an idiot or not tech savvy, but at the phone store I used to work at, most people jumping to the 4S from an Android phone felt that Android was too complicated for them or had a bad experience because they bought one of the cheap crap phones like the Samsung Intercept. I personally feel pretty limited on iOS after using Android for a while but it's a phone I'd buy for my grandmother if she wanted one of those flashy, newfangled touch phones that talk to you.

If it weren't on AT&T and I weren't so glued to my BlackBerry for work at the time, I would have bought the 3GS. I finally ditched the BB for Android with the Samsung Epic 4G, and then traded up to the GS2. It's rooted with all bloatware removed and some useful things added, and for pricey apps there are, uh, alternatives to the Play Store. I'm out of contract but I don't see myself giving this thing up unless it breaks and the cost of repair is more than the cost of a new phone.
 
2012-09-14 11:12:51 AM  

Publikwerks:

What originally sold me on Apple was the iPod touch. I could play in the iPhone sandbox with all the cool kids without having to pay for a data plan. Android devices at the time didn't have anything comparable.


Considering Andriod did not come out till after the Touch was released it would be pretty darn hard don't you think? Archos had a device before the touch that was similar.
 
2012-09-14 11:13:01 AM  
Excuse me.

Not a peeling.

There, pun sounds better.
 
2012-09-14 11:13:34 AM  

kab: LasersHurt: That port had to go. It was old technology. It's silly to presume they should keep the same old thing forever.

"well, it's just.. old and stuff" is a perfectly valid reason to change connectors for a phone, I agree.

Apple and their ilk are absolute masters of carefully planned obsolescence, I'm not sure how so many are oblivious to this.


There are actual technical reasons for the change. It's not just "planned obsolescence," it's just an upgrade to something newer and more capable. Just because you don't know or understand the technical reason behind it doesn't mean it's arbitrary. Do you even know what the pins on the connectors are for? It's not exactly a USB port.
 
2012-09-14 11:13:59 AM  
I swore to myself I'd never buy a Samsung phone. I haste the company for numerous reasons. I had been waiting for the new iPhone to be released and was eager to see what it would look like. My contract happened to expire this week, too. Anyway I was really disappointed. I'm now writing this post on my new Galaxy S3.
 
2012-09-14 11:14:08 AM  

studiomusic: Isn't hating Apple because they are Apple just like loving Apple because they are Apple?


Sure if that were the case. It is not.

We hate Apple because the way it treats its customers like 4-year olds. The way they control every aspect of their device ... blocking individuality and creativity to maintain absolute control.

We don't hate Apple because they exist or because they are successful. It is their policies and what they stand for.
 
2012-09-14 11:14:35 AM  
The 5 will be so much better than the 4s.

Pops
 
2012-09-14 11:14:49 AM  

BarkingUnicorn: kab: I guess the 99% isn't as cash strapped as they claim to be. Huh.

This.


Because $199 is such a large amount of money.... Darn poor people with their refrigerators!
 
2012-09-14 11:15:11 AM  

LasersHurt: studiomusic: Isn't hating Apple because they are Apple just like loving Apple because they are Apple?
"Oh, look at how hip I am, I love Apple!"
"Oh, look at how hip I am, I hate Apple!"

Yes, but for some reason nobody will admit this.


Well, everyone wants to justify their choice. If they can prove the other side is stupid for their choice, then by default, you prove you were correct.

It's dumb. It's Chocolate vs Vanilla.
 
2012-09-14 11:15:47 AM  

H31N0US: How do you "sell out" of vaporware? It's a pre-order. You can't run out of nothing!

What a bs article. Apple has more "journalists" on its payroll that developers, I'd wager.


You can run out of manufacturing capacity.

For anyone complaining about how "expensive" apps are, they're much more expensive to produce than desktop programs feature-for-feature and typically cost a fraction of their desktop counterparts.

The App Store is the best thing to happen to consumers of commercial software and one of the worst for its producers. Mobile apps are low-profit affairs.
 
2012-09-14 11:15:57 AM  
I like my desktops & laptops windows flavor, but right now it seems like if you're in the market for a smartphone or tablet Apple is the way to go. My new HTC Evo is one annoying & buggy lag-monster.

i.imgur.com
 
2012-09-14 11:16:30 AM  

my alt's alt's alt: biyaaatci: my alt's alt's alt: i used to work for apple. never owned a single one of their products. simple, uncustomizable crap for simple people who prefer to give a company money to think for them.

i worked in IT and apple users are by far the least "computer illiterate". and you should see the internal memos at apple on how they strive to keep their customer base uninformed and uneducated about their products...

if you worked in IT you would know that apple users use the phrase "i'm not very computer illiterate" quite often to describe and thoroughly prove their iOblivion.


That's what you're going with? I was pointing out that you either misused 'least' or 'illiterate,' which I found to be pretty funny. Now you seem to be backtracking and saying that it's the Apple users who are misusing the term 'illiterate.' At least I think that's what you're doing. It's hard to tell with your syntax. As you claim to have worked in IT, you should be familiar with the unnecessary complexity of beginning a statement with negation. You've displayed that exact problem here. I'm not saying that there are not stupid Apple users, but perhaps this hating attitude that you display is why you 'worked' in IT.
 
2012-09-14 11:17:23 AM  

susansto-helit: The Bestest: susansto-helit: I'm due for an upgrade in November. I'll probably get the 5 then. I currently have a Galaxy S. No one I know with a 4 or 4S plans to upgrade except for the fankids, though.

What has you interested in the iPhone 5 as opposed to the Galaxy S3?

For some reason I'm much more prone to dropping smartphones than I am my old cell phones. The Galaxies, though good phones, have a flimsier plastic backing on them that the iPhones don't have. The iPhone's are pretty solid. That and I have an iPad and it'll be easier to sync it up with that.


If you drop phones, you'll want a good case for your iPhone. Fortunately, they made the 5 thinner, so even with the case, it'll still be pretty slim.

/ shattered the back glass of my iPhone 4 about two months after I bought it...and it had the "bumper" case
// now has a cool, non-OEM clear back glass that lets you see the inside of the phone...and it was cheaper than OEM glass
/// iFixit FTW
 
2012-09-14 11:18:49 AM  

biyaaatci: my alt's alt's alt: i used to work for apple. never owned a single one of their products. simple, uncustomizable crap for simple people who prefer to give a company money to think for them.

i worked in IT and apple users are by far the least "computer illiterate". and you should see the internal memos at apple on how they strive to keep their customer base uninformed and uneducated about their products...


So Apple figured out the American tech buyer perfectly. How is the iPhone different from a dishwasher or household plumbing?
 
GBB
2012-09-14 11:18:54 AM  
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/really? No one?
 
2012-09-14 11:19:00 AM  

Cormee: jaybeezey: I've been pretty happy with my 4s, no plans to upgrade in the near future.

This is pretty much what every 4s owner I know has been saying.

I'm meeting a fanboy later so it'll be interesting to see what his plans are in this respect.


Perfectly happy with the 4S and not planning to upgrade. The S models are where you get the speed bumps to make all the new shiat introduced with the non-S models fly. Not that the features don't work fine on the non-S ones, but the performance jump is usually pretty noticeable in my experience.

LTE coverage is still garbage here. Verizon has it up, but it's spotty at best where I live. Sprint and AT&T have nothing. And I'm indifferent to the bigger screen.
 
2012-09-14 11:19:41 AM  

Confabulat: I honestly don't get the fanboy nonsense. Is there anything the iPhone 5 is doing that my year-old Android can't do? What exactly? I can find more games and apps than I can ever use. And hell, Android, SD card, I can pretty much use anything I want on it which I find that Apple seems to frown on. This would annoy me often.

I just don't get it, I guess.


I'm with you.

We went to the Verizon store a few months ago with the specific intention of getting my wife an iPhone4.
Our kids both have iPod Touches that I've been really impressed with. So I finally broke down and said, let's go and do it.

So, we get there and the sales guy says, "Are you really that stuck on Apple? You might want to consider the Android." So, I was open minded, and played with the demo model for about 10 minutes. I was so impressed with it, that I bought one for my wife AND myself! And I love the farking thing.
It's got more apps, for free, the SD card (for my huge MP3 collection), I can control the file system, and the interface is not much different than the iPhone. It's also fast, stable, and has a really cool web browser. And, as a REAL BONUS, the phone is clear and reliable. Now there's really something - a toy that actually still works primarily as a phone.

As a bonus, I got both of the phones for less than the cost of 1 outdated iPhone that uses a slower network and has almost none of the options I just described.

So all you Apple people can have fun with your iPhones. I don't get it though.
 
2012-09-14 11:21:21 AM  

dr_blasto: I've never had the need to change batteries due to a charge since I started using these things in the mid-90's. The only instances of battery changes has been to replace a failed battery. This is something I can still have done on any idevice.

The external storage bit is a bigger-ish deal, but the battery argument, to me, is just noise.



The truth is that my battery hadn't fully gone south. But it was dying and I decided to look for a new one, and discovered that they made them with about 30% more capacity than the battery that came with the phone. It cost me all of $12. Great investment.
 
2012-09-14 11:22:03 AM  

BarkingUnicorn: biyaaatci: my alt's alt's alt: i used to work for apple. never owned a single one of their products. simple, uncustomizable crap for simple people who prefer to give a company money to think for them.

i worked in IT and apple users are by far the least "computer illiterate". and you should see the internal memos at apple on how they strive to keep their customer base uninformed and uneducated about their products...

So Apple figured out the American tech buyer perfectly. How is the iPhone different from a dishwasher or household plumbing?


That wasn't me saying that...
 
2012-09-14 11:22:17 AM  

magic_patch: I don't get the fanboy-isms - they are both incredible devices that ten years ago would have been almost incomprehensible. They're like...magic, man.


This X eleventy.

Now that the Internet has made interoperability essential, the platform you choose is less important than ten years ago, so buy what you like and let others buy what they like. We can all get along if we choose to.
 
2012-09-14 11:24:36 AM  

Jackson Herring: St_Francis_P: Does that really mean anything? A certain number of people will want it no matter what.

Does that really mean anything? A certain number of people will be "disappointed" no matter what.


Its always time for a new phone.

I was looking at mine the other day thinking....

"My 8 Megapixel camera has been ok for the last year or so on this phone, but geez, even the iPhone has an 8 mega pixel now. Time to upgrade....."
 
2012-09-14 11:24:45 AM  

LasersHurt: What's the importance of this? Just that it's changed?


The change is something to watch. I'm by no means one of the "lol, Apple is doomed with Jobs dead!" people, and really it's too soon to tell, but I'll be watching Apple's next 'big' product announcement (whatever it may be) to see if there truly is a change of direction at Apple, or if the iPhone 5 is a one-off.

My other point is that yes, I will admit the zeal for the iPhone 5 is baffling to me. I can completely understand current iPhone owners wanting to upgrade; that I get. I even understand LTE being a big enough deal to upgrade from the 4S to a 5. Unless all of those pre-orders fall into those categories, I'm just kinda stumped at the popularity.
 
2012-09-14 11:25:05 AM  

GBB: [media.tumblr.com image 500x313] 

/really? No one?


was looking for the pic where they give him the "last" one... took too long
 
2012-09-14 11:26:03 AM  

durbnpoisn: Confabulat: I honestly don't get the fanboy nonsense. Is there anything the iPhone 5 is doing that my year-old Android can't do? What exactly? I can find more games and apps than I can ever use. And hell, Android, SD card, I can pretty much use anything I want on it which I find that Apple seems to frown on. This would annoy me often.

I just don't get it, I guess.

I'm with you.

We went to the Verizon store a few months ago with the specific intention of getting my wife an iPhone4.
Our kids both have iPod Touches that I've been really impressed with. So I finally broke down and said, let's go and do it.

So, we get there and the sales guy says, "Are you really that stuck on Apple? You might want to consider the Android." So, I was open minded, and played with the demo model for about 10 minutes. I was so impressed with it, that I bought one for my wife AND myself! And I love the farking thing.
It's got more apps, for free, the SD card (for my huge MP3 collection), I can control the file system, and the interface is not much different than the iPhone. It's also fast, stable, and has a really cool web browser. And, as a REAL BONUS, the phone is clear and reliable. Now there's really something - a toy that actually still works primarily as a phone.

As a bonus, I got both of the phones for less than the cost of 1 outdated iPhone that uses a slower network and has almost none of the options I just described.

So all you Apple people can have fun with your iPhones. I don't get it though.


So, does Android have a Garageband equivalent? A basic multitrack recorder and editor? I never found one, nor found any interface DAC to go with it.

This is most important to me. I almost bought an iPad just for this, but because I wouldn't have a separate use for it, I found no real justification for the $500 or so dollars.
 
2012-09-14 11:26:26 AM  

studiomusic: Isn't hating Apple because they are Apple just like loving Apple because they are Apple?
"Oh, look at how hip I am, I love Apple!"
"Oh, look at how hip I am, I hate Apple!"


Yeah, that's what I was trying to say to someone else in this thread and I agree.
 
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