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2012-09-14 10:06:30 AM  

Rev.K: Carth: Once someone spends a few hundred dollars in apps they are less likely to jump to another platform.

How the f*ck do you spend "a few hundred dollars" on apps?

My total spend on apps with my Android phone of 18 months is about $10.


This is why a lot of app developers have given up on the Android market place. Too many different handsets / OS versions to support and the actual sales don't make up fo the effort.
 
2012-09-14 10:06:38 AM  

Abe Vigoda's Ghost: I don't think there was ever any doubt that Apple would sell a bunch of these.
Still does not make it a cutting edge phone.


This. Reading about it on my RAZR MAXX and hearing the list of features, my thought was "that's it?" Really Apple. Eight hours of LTE roaming. I get +20. And a non-standard connector AGAIN to boot.
 
2012-09-14 10:07:29 AM  
Polaroid used to pull the same shiat, every year a "new and improved" model came out that folks just had to have.
www.geardiary.com
 
2012-09-14 10:08:02 AM  
I primarily use my phone for internet, which my Windows Phone kicks ass at. But if i could only get a droid phone with a stable browser app (that doesn't force close randomly, or forget what page i was JUST on when i leave the app to check something else) I'd totally switch back. The lack of apps on Windows Phone has been frustrating. Though, they are catching up very very slowly.
 
2012-09-14 10:08:10 AM  

Jackson Herring: St_Francis_P: Jackson Herring: St_Francis_P: Does that really mean anything? A certain number of people will want it no matter what.

Does that really mean anything? A certain number of people will be "disappointed" no matter what.

I think we're agreeing, but I'm not sure.

Me neither.


You're both wrong.
 
2012-09-14 10:08:30 AM  

simon_bar_sinister: I hope Samsung comes up with something so awesome Apple suffers quick financial death.


Like owning patents on LTE and filing a lawsuit against apple to bar the iPhone 5 from entering the US for infringing on those LTE patents? They already did that.
 
2012-09-14 10:08:36 AM  
www.aboyandhiscomputer.com
 
2012-09-14 10:09:45 AM  

Rev.K: Carth: You're a lawyer studying for the bar? That one alone is a few hundred dollars. If you do a lot of statistical research the apps are also very expensive. Using a table or phone for any professional purpose and the cost of applications gets expensive really quick.

Fair enough. I know there are expensive apps out there, but your two example groups there are a pretty small portion of the app market population.

It would be interesting to see what the average spend is. I'm sure Apple has the data.


i was really curious about that a few months ago. The data out there isn't great but iOS users tend to spend more on games but the majority of people don't spend anything on apps. This says the people who do spend money on apps normally spend about 7.50 a month. So while not a lot still about $150 over a two year contract.
 
2012-09-14 10:09:46 AM  

fireclown: help me out. Is that a joke? If not, what does $999 buy you on an Iphone, GPS wise?


The joke is someone paid $999 for a GPS app.

I've bought a whole computer, a GPS program, and a GPS antenna for less then that.

$999 on an iPhone buys you a a giant sucker sign.
 
2012-09-14 10:09:47 AM  
And Apple stock is hitting a new high again today. The stock is better than the phone.
 
2012-09-14 10:09:58 AM  

Zizzowop: The cult of Apple haters, they will buy anything but Apple no matter what.


untrue. I own an Ipod. I'd like to buy another someday, but they've done away with the scroll wheel.
 
2012-09-14 10:10:39 AM  

NowhereMon: I was actually thinking that if I were to buy a phone today, I'd probably go for the unlocked Nexus right from Google.


Personally I think I will do this as well in future. I love my Galaxy S2 LTE though so it won't be soon. LTE rocks if you can get it ... about a 7.5x speed increase for me. I had the Nexus One and that was a great experience until the power button failed (known issue with that model).

But going for the Nexus line gets around most of the issues that most people complain about: delay in updates, carrier bloatware, and unnecessary interface skins (offer them as an option if you want but don't force them on us (especially when they cause the delay in the upgrade)).

I just bought the Nexus 7 tablet and it is great. Although the down-side of having the first Jelly Bean device is that not all the apps are updated for this version yet.
 
2012-09-14 10:12:04 AM  

fireclown: Zizzowop: The cult of Apple haters, they will buy anything but Apple no matter what.

untrue. I own an Ipod. I'd like to buy another someday, but they've done away with the scroll wheel.


Maybe there's an app for that :)
 
2012-09-14 10:12:53 AM  
Apple has always understocked their iPhone inventory, just so they get the free advertising of back-ordered iPhone stories, same story different phone.
 
2012-09-14 10:13:23 AM  

fluffy2097: $999 on an iPhone buys you a a giant sucker sign.


Heck, the Iphone gets you the sucker sign. I did run across this though. I don't think it's a joke. 10 most expensive Iphone apps for 2010
 
2012-09-14 10:13:45 AM  
what secularsage said.
 
2012-09-14 10:14:35 AM  

Tom_Slick: Apple has always understocked their iPhone inventory, just so they get the free advertising of back-ordered iPhone stories, same story different phone.


Plus people naturally want something when told they can't have it.
 
2012-09-14 10:14:36 AM  
Dude in the office was just bragging about waking up at 2 a.m. to preorder that stupid phone.
He's already got the last iPhone that came out.

I hope he really is disappointed simply because he went on and on about it even though I expressed zero
interest in anything he has to say.
 
2012-09-14 10:14:43 AM  

Jon iz teh kewl: or buy the $999 GPS application


What the fark? My Galaxy Nexus has Google Maps Navigation Beta built in for free.
 
2012-09-14 10:15:14 AM  
"Zach Epstein is the Executive Editor Troll of BGR. He has 10 years of industry unimportant experience, first in marketing and business development with two private Telcos, where he was a dismal failure and then as a "writer" (snicker) and idiot, spewing bullshiat about business, technology and telecommunications."

FTFH
 
2012-09-14 10:16:36 AM  
Rumour: iPhone 6 will not contain an actual cell phone feature (ie. you won't be able to make an actual call on it).
 
2012-09-14 10:16:39 AM  
it's a bigger step up than the 4 to 4S was, and the 4S sold a lot of phones, despite many 3GS users not upgrading to 'em

so my prediction is that 3GS users will upgrade, 4S users will keep their 4S's, people without smartphones will buy entry-level 4S's, and apple's stock will go above $700
 
2012-09-14 10:16:56 AM  
I'm still content with my EVO.

My buddy finally got an iPhone and said he misses his Droid.
 
2012-09-14 10:17:53 AM  

Nick Nostril: Rumour: iPhone 6 will not contain an actual cell phone feature (ie. you won't be able to make an actual call on it).


That would actually be a big step in the right direction. I hate having to pay for voice minutes I never use. I use text messaging and data far more often. The few times I actually needed to talk to someone skype is fine.
 
2012-09-14 10:17:59 AM  
I'll never understand people who buy brand new technology before it has a chance to get all the bugs fixed
 
2012-09-14 10:18:15 AM  
I actually just went to pre-order one for my girl (her Incredible was anything BUT) and they're telling me either I have to ditch the Unlimited Data Plan and pay monthly for data by the GB or pay full farking price for an iPhone at a retailer. And she's eligible for an upgrade too.
WTF?
 
2012-09-14 10:18:56 AM  
There are actually some problems with the iPhone5 that are getting a little bit of coverage, though generally being drowned out by the hype.

1. No NFC. - Seriously, WTF Apple!
2. No simultaneous voice and data on CDMA carriers. Every LTE Android phone can do it, but Apple chose to reduce the number of antennas to get the device thinner and that eliminated this function. Since Verizon is throwing in free mobile Hotspot in their plans, it is going to suck that the data connection will drop when a phone call comes in.
3. The didn't plan to support the future LTE frequencies - specifically Vodaphones 4G LTE networks in the UK and beyond. They are being deployed right now and will be turned on in 1Q13. If you are a global roamer and use data, the iPhone 5 will be outdated at launch. Android LTE global devices have been ready for this rollout since 2011.
 
2012-09-14 10:19:02 AM  

Rev.K: Carth: Once someone spends a few hundred dollars in apps they are less likely to jump to another platform.

How the f*ck do you spend "a few hundred dollars" on apps?

My total spend on apps with my Android phone of 18 months is about $10.



I had an iPhone 3G and then got an HTC EVO 4G. I have around $15 in apps on both. Maybe $20. Not enough to tie me to either platform.

I just switched my wife over to a Samsung Galaxy S3 from her old iPhone 4. Her biggest problem has been the songs she'd bought through iTunes directly on her phone and are now gone. There may be a way to re-download them through iTunes and then strip them of DRM if they have any and then load them on the new phone but.... it's probably as easy or easier just to "pirate" the shiat she already bought and use that. Which is the option I went with.
 
2012-09-14 10:19:04 AM  
The new iThing. It makes the one you just bought look like a piece of shiat. Why do you still have that thing you paid $500 for? Give us $500 more so you can feel better about your purchasing prowess.
 
2012-09-14 10:19:24 AM  

Tat'dGreaser: I'll never understand people who buy brand new technology before it has a chance to get all the bugs fixed


But it's new and shiny.
 
2012-09-14 10:19:25 AM  
I've owned Apple products and phones since the second generation iPhone. I'm completely happy with their quality, and don't see a compelling reason to change to something else.
 
2012-09-14 10:19:44 AM  

Zizzowop: The cult of Apple haters, they will buy anything but Apple no matter what.


This is true for me but I contend that my hate is completely justified by Apple's choices and their policy of "our way is the only way".

Apple gives you no choice in: phone design (one size, no keyboard, etc.), the interface program you use (iTunes only), the store you use (App store only). Their attempts to control how I use my phone is offensive ... hence the hate.

Justified hate is different from blind hate. That may be difficult to recognize through your blind love.
 
2012-09-14 10:20:07 AM  
i used to work for apple. never owned a single one of their products. simple, uncustomizable crap for simple people who prefer to give a company money to think for them.

i worked in IT and apple users are by far the least "computer illiterate". and you should see the internal memos at apple on how they strive to keep their customer base uninformed and uneducated about their products...
 
2012-09-14 10:20:23 AM  
It's inconcievable this is a publisity stunt and Apple would reduce numbers intentionally. Isn't it?

Isn't it?
 
2012-09-14 10:20:40 AM  

mongbiohazard: Rev.K: Carth: Once someone spends a few hundred dollars in apps they are less likely to jump to another platform.

How the f*ck do you spend "a few hundred dollars" on apps?

My total spend on apps with my Android phone of 18 months is about $10.


I had an iPhone 3G and then got an HTC EVO 4G. I have around $15 in apps on both. Maybe $20. Not enough to tie me to either platform.

I just switched my wife over to a Samsung Galaxy S3 from her old iPhone 4. Her biggest problem has been the songs she'd bought through iTunes directly on her phone and are now gone. There may be a way to re-download them through iTunes and then strip them of DRM if they have any and then load them on the new phone but.... it's probably as easy or easier just to "pirate" the shiat she already bought and use that. Which is the option I went with.


Itunes songs don't have DRM anymore (if she bought them int he last few years). You can convert them to mp3 within iTunes and then upload them to Amazon, Google or whatever cloud music program you use.
 
2012-09-14 10:20:48 AM  
Preorders of my bronzed dog turds sold out immediately.

A lack of supply is not necessarily indicative of demand.
 
2012-09-14 10:20:58 AM  
*c not s
 
2012-09-14 10:22:33 AM  
I've been pretty happy with my 4s, no plans to upgrade in the near future.
 
2012-09-14 10:23:08 AM  

am_svperstar: I actually just went to pre-order one for my girl (her Incredible was anything BUT) and they're telling me either I have to ditch the Unlimited Data Plan and pay monthly for data by the GB or pay full farking price for an iPhone at a retailer. And she's eligible for an upgrade too.
WTF?


Both AT&T and Verizon changed to "multiple devices sharing a metered data pool, but hey, unlimited voice!" plans for anyone getting a new contract.
 
2012-09-14 10:23:28 AM  
Apple: Let's make it longer and get rid of the now-standard-on-everything plug we've been using for 10 years!
Apple product fans: TAKE MY MONEY! AND TAKE MORE SO I CAN HAVE A NEW DOCK THAT IS COMPATIBLE WITH IT!

You could stamp the apple logo on a dog turd and apple fans would be throwing their money at there local apple store employees to get their hands on it.
 
2012-09-14 10:24:11 AM  
had my galaxy s3 for a few months now... and absolutely love it.
 
2012-09-14 10:24:12 AM  

my alt's alt's alt: i used to work for apple. never owned a single one of their products. simple, uncustomizable crap for simple people who prefer to give a company money to think for them.

i worked in IT and apple users are by far the least "computer illiterate". and you should see the internal memos at apple on how they strive to keep their customer base uninformed and uneducated about their products...

 
2012-09-14 10:25:18 AM  

Confabulat: I honestly don't get the fanboy nonsense. Is there anything the iPhone 5 is doing that my year-old Android can't do? What exactly? I can find more games and apps than I can ever use. And hell, Android, SD card, I can pretty much use anything I want on it which I find that Apple seems to frown on. This would annoy me often.

I just don't get it, I guess.


You sound concerned.
 
2012-09-14 10:25:26 AM  

madgonad: There are actually some problems with the iPhone5 that are getting a little bit of coverage, though generally being drowned out by the hype.

1. No NFC. - Seriously, WTF Apple!
2. No simultaneous voice and data on CDMA carriers. Every LTE Android phone can do it, but Apple chose to reduce the number of antennas to get the device thinner and that eliminated this function. Since Verizon is throwing in free mobile Hotspot in their plans, it is going to suck that the data connection will drop when a phone call comes in.
3. The didn't plan to support the future LTE frequencies - specifically Vodaphones 4G LTE networks in the UK and beyond. They are being deployed right now and will be turned on in 1Q13. If you are a global roamer and use data, the iPhone 5 will be outdated at launch. Android LTE global devices have been ready for this rollout since 2011.


1. NFC is really new. It's a cool tech, but there's very little infrastructure for it. That said, that infrastructure is going to blow up over the next year, but it's a gamble they've made for better or worse. I think it will be like LTE - up front, honestly, it's not ubiquitous enough to sweat it. By the time it's everywhere, you get a new device out. A little late to the game, but not much worse for the wear.

2. They did not remove the antenna for thinness, they use the dual antennas for boosting and providing reliability to the primary connection. Still not sure it was the right move, I really like talking and using data on AT&T.

3. These turn out every year. One year from now, I'll bet they've got all the frequencies ready. Again, it's a bit of a lag, but that seems to be their safety practice these days.
 
2012-09-14 10:25:43 AM  

Rev.K: Carth: Once someone spends a few hundred dollars in apps they are less likely to jump to another platform.

How the f*ck do you spend "a few hundred dollars" on apps?

My total spend on apps with my Android phone of 18 months is about $10.


Because there's thousands (out of hundreds of thousands) of games and applications that are extremely well done and worth paying money for. I don't have a problem paying people for the work they do and don't expect all software to be free. I also don't balk at paying $1.99 for an app I may use for a week and beat it or move on to something else.
 
2012-09-14 10:25:44 AM  
Dear early adopters,

We smart consumers appreciate your zeal for being the first to buy a new model of a device. Your need to be first allows manufacturers to use you as Guinea pigs to find the bugs and fine tune their products so that the rest of us will have a satisfactory product at a lower cost. Your contribution is most valuable.
 
2012-09-14 10:26:18 AM  

jaybeezey: I've been pretty happy with my 4s, no plans to upgrade in the near future.


This is pretty much what every 4s owner I know has been saying.

I'm meeting a fanboy later so it'll be interesting to see what his plans are in this respect.
 
2012-09-14 10:26:22 AM  
As a Mac person, I really don't get the people who buy each new version of the iPhone. Maybe if we knew that there wouldn't be a new iPhone for at least two years I could understand wanting to have the improved functionality for that two year period (especially the LTE), but we do know that within a year there will be a better, faster iPhone.

I'm still using my 3GS that I bought in June 2009. While it's obviously no longer the hot new toy, it has served me well while the 4G and 4GS came out. But I will upgrade to the 5 because the battery is shot and performance has become sluggish.
 
2012-09-14 10:26:37 AM  

The Only Sane Man In Florida: Apple: Let's make it longer and get rid of the now-standard-on-everything plug we've been using for 10 years!


I am the biggest Apple hater out there but the fact is that they had to get rid of that ancient, giant 30-pin connector. They should have joined the rest of the world at micro USB but that's Apple for you.
 
2012-09-14 10:26:51 AM  

The Only Sane Man In Florida: Apple: Let's make it longer and get rid of the now-standard-on-everything plug we've been using for 10 years!
Apple product fans: TAKE MY MONEY! AND TAKE MORE SO I CAN HAVE A NEW DOCK THAT IS COMPATIBLE WITH IT!

You could stamp the apple logo on a dog turd and apple fans would be throwing their money at there local apple store employees to get their hands on it.


That port had to go. It was old technology. It's silly to presume they should keep the same old thing forever.

I know it sucks for devices now because you either have to get an adapter or a new device, but hey, times change. I can't even find the dock for my old Handspring anymore.
 
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