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2012-09-14 11:10:43 AM

skullkrusher: More_Like_A_Stain: But it's quite reasonable to read it as between $100K and $200-250K. And that's still wrong.

that's the logical reading of his exact wording, yes. It isn't middle income no matter how you slice it.


So you're now saying the hook is 100% justified in being there.
 
2012-09-14 11:11:02 AM

HotWingConspiracy: Jairzinho: ignatius_crumbcake: GEORGE STEPHANOPOULOS: Is $100,000 middle income?

MITT ROMNEY: No, middle income is $200,000 to $250,000 and less.

Huh? Can someone draw a graph and show what that range is? I have no farking idea what he meant. So is $0 dollar income still "middle class"?

Does this person with $0 income have a refrigerator?


"and less" is sort of like "east, west, south, and north somewhat". GOP code for "I am a clueless farkwit."
 
2012-09-14 11:11:25 AM

A Dark Evil Omen: Except that the conventional American definition of "middle class" is roughly "everyone who isn't actually homeless but also isn't as rich as Bill Gates".


No it isn't. Middle class has a definition, and it's not "99% of Americans"
 
2012-09-14 11:12:48 AM

Philip Francis Queeg: skullkrusher: Philip Francis Queeg: But they are middle class? People in the top 2% of earners are middle class in your opinion?

Families earning up to $250,000 a year can certainly fall within the "middle class", yes.

That's farking stupid. Incredibly farking stupid.

People making in the top 1.5% of income do not fall into any rational definition of "Middle class".


hehe if you say so Phil... how about a family earning $100,000 a year? Could they fall into your "rational" definition of "Middle class"?
 
2012-09-14 11:12:55 AM

cameroncrazy1984: A Dark Evil Omen: Except that the conventional American definition of "middle class" is roughly "everyone who isn't actually homeless but also isn't as rich as Bill Gates".

No it isn't. Middle class has a definition, and it's not "99% of Americans"


If they claim it's 99% of Americans it allows them to justify their intention of lowering the quality of life for 99% of Americans. As usual, it's a rhetorical snare.
 
2012-09-14 11:13:23 AM

cameroncrazy1984: skullkrusher: More_Like_A_Stain: But it's quite reasonable to read it as between $100K and $200-250K. And that's still wrong.

that's the logical reading of his exact wording, yes. It isn't middle income no matter how you slice it.

So you're now saying the hook is 100% justified in being there.


no because the "hook" is that he said "middle income" is $200-$250k.
 
2012-09-14 11:13:37 AM
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2012-09-14 11:14:01 AM

cameroncrazy1984: A Dark Evil Omen: Except that the conventional American definition of "middle class" is roughly "everyone who isn't actually homeless but also isn't as rich as Bill Gates".

No it isn't. Middle class has a definition, and it's not "99% of Americans"


Oh, sure, if you want to look at things like "facts" and "reality".

But go on. Go out and ask people if they're middle class. You just try to tell someone who's barely keeping their head above the poverty line that they're not middle class. Conversely, you find an anesthesiologist pulling down a cool $350k/year and tell him that he's way above middle class. Go on. Believe me, I have had these conversations plenty of times.
 
2012-09-14 11:14:39 AM

what_now: madgonad: All of these people still have to work for a living. While the upper middle class are likely to become millionaires over time, they still have jobs or own businesses that they must continue to work at in order to continue their lifestyle.

People who make between $167-$350k need to work to "continue their lifestyle" while people who make between 0-35k need to work to continue to eat.

Now, which one of these categories can spare some fng change for the tax man?


That wasn't my point, but I agree with you. I am in the top 2% and would happily pay more taxes to save this country from fiscal ruin. This nation has given me everything and I understand that it is my responsibility to pay it forward. I can't comprehend how the greed-heads at the GOP lost this basic idea of staying current and making the nation a better place for the next generation.
 
2012-09-14 11:15:19 AM
And now we're treated to the reason why nominating Romney - a liberal Republican running on a platform of trying to convince the Tea Party he's one of them is doomed to failure. I can't simply take an "anybody but Obama" position because there are a lot of people worse than Obama, and with Mitt compromising on abandoning his principles does not leave me confident that his governance will be what it should be. Neither Mitt Romney appeals to me. Give me a William F. Buckley, Jr. candidate, not a secret prize comic-book bag that inevitably contain only old "Swear Jar Man" comic books and "Superman and the Mystery of the Shrouded Posterboard" missing most of its cover and half its pages.
 
2012-09-14 11:15:54 AM
Meh, not the clusterfnck of an answer I was hoping for. I'm reading it as 200k to 250k and below is what he's claiming as the middle without setting a lower limit. Give him a few more hours today and I'm confident he'll give us something idiotic to zing him for.

//please post that asshole smirking again

///Drew, cant the mobile app get a photo posting button or something. Jesus
 
2012-09-14 11:16:38 AM

madgonad: I can't comprehend how the greed-heads at the GOP lost this basic idea of staying current and making the nation a better place for the next generation.


The next generation can't or won't vote, and the last generation votes more than the current generation.
 
2012-09-14 11:17:56 AM

skullkrusher: A family earning $40k and a family earning $80k obviously fall on different parts of the the national income distribution chart but they could have identical standards of living depending on where they live.


But more to the point, where do people earning between $100K and $200-250K fall on your "class" scale. These are the people directly referenced by Mittens.
 
2012-09-14 11:17:57 AM

A Dark Evil Omen: Go out and ask people if they're middle class.


again- people may FEEL like they're in the middle class, but actual numbers don't respond to feelings.

25.media.tumblr.com

thanks, fracto
 
2012-09-14 11:18:03 AM

skullkrusher: Philip Francis Queeg: skullkrusher: Philip Francis Queeg: But they are middle class? People in the top 2% of earners are middle class in your opinion?

Families earning up to $250,000 a year can certainly fall within the "middle class", yes.

That's farking stupid. Incredibly farking stupid.

People making in the top 1.5% of income do not fall into any rational definition of "Middle class".

hehe if you say so Phil... how about a family earning $100,000 a year? Could they fall into your "rational" definition of "Middle class"?


Even that is stretching the definition of middle class nearly beyond recognition.

The top 25% of household income starts at about $80,000.
 
2012-09-14 11:18:20 AM

A Dark Evil Omen: cameroncrazy1984: A Dark Evil Omen: Except that the conventional American definition of "middle class" is roughly "everyone who isn't actually homeless but also isn't as rich as Bill Gates".

No it isn't. Middle class has a definition, and it's not "99% of Americans"

Oh, sure, if you want to look at things like "facts" and "reality".

But go on. Go out and ask people if they're middle class. You just try to tell someone who's barely keeping their head above the poverty line that they're not middle class. Conversely, you find an anesthesiologist pulling down a cool $350k/year and tell him that he's way above middle class. Go on. Believe me, I have had these conversations plenty of times.


You could reasonably say that 99% of Americans, if asked, would claim to be middle class.
 
2012-09-14 11:18:50 AM

PonceAlyosha: A Dark Evil Omen: cameroncrazy1984: A Dark Evil Omen: Except that the conventional American definition of "middle class" is roughly "everyone who isn't actually homeless but also isn't as rich as Bill Gates".

No it isn't. Middle class has a definition, and it's not "99% of Americans"

Oh, sure, if you want to look at things like "facts" and "reality".

But go on. Go out and ask people if they're middle class. You just try to tell someone who's barely keeping their head above the poverty line that they're not middle class. Conversely, you find an anesthesiologist pulling down a cool $350k/year and tell him that he's way above middle class. Go on. Believe me, I have had these conversations plenty of times.

You could reasonably say that 99% of Americans, if asked, would claim to be middle class.


If asked Romney would claim to be middle class.
 
2012-09-14 11:19:44 AM

Cuthbert Allgood: Ass to ass!
Ass to ass!
/great chant at any event


abcnews.go.com
ASS TO ASS! 
 
2012-09-14 11:19:47 AM

madgonad: what_now: madgonad: All of these people still have to work for a living. While the upper middle class are likely to become millionaires over time, they still have jobs or own businesses that they must continue to work at in order to continue their lifestyle.

People who make between $167-$350k need to work to "continue their lifestyle" while people who make between 0-35k need to work to continue to eat.

Now, which one of these categories can spare some fng change for the tax man?

That wasn't my point, but I agree with you. I am in the top 2% and would happily pay more taxes to save this country from fiscal ruin. This nation has given me everything and I understand that it is my responsibility to pay it forward. I can't comprehend how the greed-heads at the GOP lost this basic idea of staying current and making the nation a better place for the next generation.


Obviously you're not a greedy bastard.

Good on you, brother
 
2012-09-14 11:20:19 AM

qorkfiend: madgonad: I can't comprehend how the greed-heads at the GOP lost this basic idea of staying current and making the nation a better place for the next generation.

The next generation can't or won't vote, and the last generation votes more than the current generation.


That contributes to it, but part of me think that the Right wants to undo all of the progress made in the 20th century and they think the only way to change those laws and structures is to cause an economic collapse (due to debt). The ownership class has diversified holdings, so they will survive it and have the capital to rebuild afterward. The middle class will lose everything in that collapse. A scorched earth class war that will bring doom on us all.
 
2012-09-14 11:23:40 AM
www.edrants.com

You never go ass-to-mouth
 
2012-09-14 11:23:54 AM

Cuthbert Allgood: Meh, not the clusterfnck of an answer I was hoping for. I'm reading it as 200k to 250k and below is what he's claiming as the middle without setting a lower limit. Give him a few more hours today and I'm confident he'll give us something idiotic to zing him for.

//please post that asshole smirking again

///Drew, cant the mobile app get a photo posting button or something. Jesus


The lower limit was set when Snuffalouffagus asked if people at $100k were middle class and Romney said no. So the range is effectively somewhere (undefined) above $100k to $250K, according to Mittens.
 
2012-09-14 11:24:08 AM

phritz: Cuthbert Allgood: Ass to ass!
Ass to ass!
/great chant at any event

[abcnews.go.com image 413x310]
ASS TO ASS!


Rick's like, "Not on stage, bra. I haven't even had a wine cooler yet."
 
2012-09-14 11:34:06 AM

Cuthbert Allgood: Obviously you're not a greedy bastard.

Good on you, brother


That wasn't how I was raised. I was raised to be frugal and put my money into important things. While I might cut cable TV and heat the house to 63 degrees in the winter - I still drop $2k/year on NFL tickets for my dad and I and I didn't hesitate for a second when I spent $7k on family vacation. I drive a ten year old Sentra, but I already have $80k saved in 529s and other accounts for my kids' education. It is all about priorities in life. Things don't matter to me, but experiences do. And I certainly understand that my philosophy is nor more right or wrong than anyone else's. I do think that the nation needs to come to a conclusion of what needs to be done in this country and how to pay for it. THAT, we can all agree on.
 
2012-09-14 11:34:10 AM
http://www.rasmussenreports.com/public_content/politics/obama_administ ration/daily_presidential_tracking_poll

POLL: ROMNEY 48% OBAMA 45%...
 
2012-09-14 11:36:42 AM

More_Like_A_Stain: skullkrusher: A family earning $40k and a family earning $80k obviously fall on different parts of the the national income distribution chart but they could have identical standards of living depending on where they live.

But more to the point, where do people earning between $100K and $200-250K fall on your "class" scale. These are the people directly referenced by Mittens.


it all depends on where they live. As I said, "class" in this context is about standard of living, not your AGI.
 
2012-09-14 11:37:48 AM
Yoinked FTA:

MITT ROMNEY: Well, I said that there are five different studies that point out that we can get to a balanced budget without raising taxes on middle income people. Let me tell you, George, the fundamentals of my tax policy are these. Number one, reduce tax burdens on middle-income people. So no one can say my plan is going to raise taxes on middle-income people, because principle number one is keep the burden down on middle-income taxpayers.

GEORGE STEPHANOPOULOS: Is $100,000 middle income?

MITT ROMNEY: No, middle income is $200,000 to $250,000 and less. So number one, don't reduce- or excuse me, don't raise taxes on middle-income people, lower them. Number two, don't reduce the share of taxes paid by the wealthiest. The top 5% will still pay the same share of taxes they pay today. That's principle one, principle two. Principle three is create incentives for growth, make it easier for businesses to start and to add jobs. And finally, simplify the code, make it easier for people to pay their taxes than the way they have to now.

/yoink

Draw your own conclusions, folks, but Mitt's idea of the middle class is not where most people see it.

To use just one metric: median household income varies rom state to state, but in 2005-2007 it ranged from mid-$30k at the low end (e.g. Deep South) to mid-$60k at the high end (e.g. Northeast). I'd argue that the median is where you can start calling people middle-class. In a similar way, upper-middle class is going to begin at about 3X the median, which is well into the 90th percentile and heading for the 95th.

But if you're Mitt, $250k probably looks like middle class because you can only afford to rent a vacation home. (Ewww.)
 
2012-09-14 11:38:59 AM

Philip Francis Queeg: skullkrusher: Philip Francis Queeg: skullkrusher: Philip Francis Queeg: But they are middle class? People in the top 2% of earners are middle class in your opinion?

Families earning up to $250,000 a year can certainly fall within the "middle class", yes.

That's farking stupid. Incredibly farking stupid.

People making in the top 1.5% of income do not fall into any rational definition of "Middle class".

hehe if you say so Phil... how about a family earning $100,000 a year? Could they fall into your "rational" definition of "Middle class"?

Even that is stretching the definition of middle class nearly beyond recognition.

The top 25% of household income starts at about $80,000.


The President refers to keeping Bush tax cuts for people below 200/250 as "extending the middle class tax cuts".
It is not stretching the definition.

2 kids, house, 2 cars, family trip once a year, saving for college and retirement. Maybe if you're at the higher end you have a small boat or house on the lake. That's what I call middle class.
 
2012-09-14 11:39:58 AM

shirtsbyeric: http://www.rasmussenreports.com/public_content/politics/obama_adminis t ration/daily_presidential_tracking_poll

POLL: ROMNEY 48% OBAMA 45%...


Doesn't matter. The electoral college will ensure an Obama win in the same way it allowed Bush to beat Gore. The Romney supporters are too concentrated. He will win states like Texas, Georgia, and South Carolina by 20+ points, but Obama will win California and New York by 10.
 
2012-09-14 11:41:20 AM

skullkrusher: Philip Francis Queeg: skullkrusher: Philip Francis Queeg: skullkrusher: Philip Francis Queeg: But they are middle class? People in the top 2% of earners are middle class in your opinion?

Families earning up to $250,000 a year can certainly fall within the "middle class", yes.

That's farking stupid. Incredibly farking stupid.

People making in the top 1.5% of income do not fall into any rational definition of "Middle class".

hehe if you say so Phil... how about a family earning $100,000 a year? Could they fall into your "rational" definition of "Middle class"?

Even that is stretching the definition of middle class nearly beyond recognition.

The top 25% of household income starts at about $80,000.

The President refers to keeping Bush tax cuts for people below 200/250 as "extending the middle class tax cuts".
It is not stretching the definition.

2 kids, house, 2 cars, family trip once a year, saving for college and retirement. Maybe if you're at the higher end you have a small boat or house on the lake. That's what I call middle class.


So most Americans are living in poverty in your opinion?
 
2012-09-14 11:42:35 AM

shirtsbyeric: http://www.rasmussenreports.com/public_content/politics/obama_adminis t ration/daily_presidential_tracking_poll

POLL: ROMNEY 48% OBAMA 45%...


link goes no where.
 
2012-09-14 11:45:27 AM

featurecreep: WTF does "$200,000 to $250,000 and less" mean?


He's referring to the upper limit of 'middle class". There is a lot of disagreement on the upper limit of what you can call 'middle class', but the two most commonly used numbers are $200k and $250k.
 
2012-09-14 11:45:52 AM

More_Like_A_Stain: Cuthbert Allgood: Meh, not the clusterfnck of an answer I was hoping for. I'm reading it as 200k to 250k and below is what he's claiming as the middle without setting a lower limit. Give him a few more hours today and I'm confident he'll give us something idiotic to zing him for.

//please post that asshole smirking again

///Drew, cant the mobile app get a photo posting button or something. Jesus

The lower limit was set when Snuffalouffagus asked if people at $100k were middle class and Romney said no. So the range is effectively somewhere (undefined) above $100k to $250K, according to Mittens.


Maybe but that's not how I'm reading it. Mittens was saying 100k is not the upper limit.

/it doesn't matter to me, really. Romney is a dufus no doubt. I'm just not reading this as a big gaffe. It seems kinda like the "you didn't build that" quote to me.
 
2012-09-14 11:48:18 AM
I think what is being lost here in all the herping and derping is mouth to ass isn't even a huge deal. And ass to mouth isn't either as long as enemas are performed beforehand.
 
2012-09-14 11:48:32 AM

Philip Francis Queeg: skullkrusher: Philip Francis Queeg: skullkrusher: Philip Francis Queeg: skullkrusher: Philip Francis Queeg: But they are middle class? People in the top 2% of earners are middle class in your opinion?

Families earning up to $250,000 a year can certainly fall within the "middle class", yes.

That's farking stupid. Incredibly farking stupid.

People making in the top 1.5% of income do not fall into any rational definition of "Middle class".

hehe if you say so Phil... how about a family earning $100,000 a year? Could they fall into your "rational" definition of "Middle class"?

Even that is stretching the definition of middle class nearly beyond recognition.

The top 25% of household income starts at about $80,000.

The President refers to keeping Bush tax cuts for people below 200/250 as "extending the middle class tax cuts".
It is not stretching the definition.

2 kids, house, 2 cars, family trip once a year, saving for college and retirement. Maybe if you're at the higher end you have a small boat or house on the lake. That's what I call middle class.

So most Americans are living in poverty in your opinion?


"Not middle class" == "poverty"? That's surprisingly disingenuous, even for you, Father of Lies.
 
2012-09-14 11:49:27 AM
Since the abject failure of this now 40-year war on success, it is no wonder that now, since our country is almost completely filled with complete scum, few people can identify with being, you know, successful.

But keep rewarding the fail, America! I am sure that in 20 more years, when unemployment is 50%, and the median income is $9,000 per year, the democrats can wallow in knowing they have full control of the government of the People's Republic of Americastan.

Why would the 80% of the population that parasitizes the, you know, actually productive people, vote for someone who believe that you should actually, you know, work, to get paid?
 
2012-09-14 11:53:38 AM

madgonad: qorkfiend: madgonad: I can't comprehend how the greed-heads at the GOP lost this basic idea of staying current and making the nation a better place for the next generation.

The next generation can't or won't vote, and the last generation votes more than the current generation.

That contributes to it, but part of me think that the Right wants to undo all of the progress made in the 20th century and they think the only way to change those laws and structures is to cause an economic collapse (due to debt). The ownership class has diversified holdings, so they will survive it and have the capital to rebuild afterward. The middle class will lose everything in that collapse. A scorched earth class war that will bring doom on us all.


I think the right didn't set out to dismantle everything, they just ended up having to. It's the inevitable result of a "starve the beast" philosophy of government.
 
2012-09-14 11:58:44 AM

Cymbal: I think what is being lost here in all the herping and derping is mouth to ass isn't even a huge deal. And ass to mouth isn't either as long as enemas are performed beforehand.


Exactly. Can you please explain this to my wife and her sister.
 
2012-09-14 12:03:28 PM

skullkrusher: Families earning up to $250,000 a year can certainly fall within the "middle class", yes.



"Professional Class" is the better description. Neither bracket owns private jets, but the opportunities and pressures on each group are substantially different.
 
2012-09-14 12:03:50 PM

Cymbal: I think what is being lost here in all the herping and derping is mouth to ass isn't even a huge deal. And ass to mouth isn't either as long as enemas are performed beforehand.


who the hell is performing enemas before sex... oh, nevermind
 
2012-09-14 12:10:22 PM
Rasmussen lies almost as much as Romney.
 
2012-09-14 12:12:24 PM
Can some explain the difference between m-a and a-m to me without destroying my childish innocence?
 
2012-09-14 12:21:49 PM

skullkrusher: it all depends on where they live. As I said, "class" in this context is about standard of living, not your AGI.


I'll agree that location has an effect on ones standard of living. But really, when you're in the $200-$250K category, how many locations in the country are there that you would be on an equal footing with someone living in a less costly area on $100K or less? Two? Three? And if your job is located in one of those uber-expensive locations, how far do you have to commute to almost entirely negate that effect? 20 miles? 50? When you look at all that, it may not be entirely about AGI, but AGI is the biggest factor in determining "class".
 
2012-09-14 12:24:44 PM

Gonz: Citrate1007: Only Fox News and other equally partisan right-wing media outlets have been saying that it was remotely close.

I watch CBS News virtually every night. They've been calling it "neck-and-neck" for months.


Gonz: Citrate1007: Only Fox News and other equally partisan right-wing media outlets have been saying that it was remotely close.

I watch CBS News virtually every night. They've been calling it "neck-and-neck" for months.



NPR has also been calling it neck-and-neck or some other such nonsense.

I remember when Kerry ran against Dubya, and I really hoped that he would win. In my heart of hearts, though, I knew it would be an uphill battle and wasn't going to go the way I hoped. During all of this, the right wing retards were herpin' and derpin' away and the election was surprisingly close (final EVs: 286-251).

This time? Forget it. The only way Obama could lose this election is if a video would surface of him dressed in James O'Keefe's pimp outfit, laughing manically and counting dollar bills while Michelle was blowing Romney.
 
2012-09-14 12:25:54 PM

hinten: Can some explain the difference between m-a and a-m to me without destroying my childish innocence?


Step one: Insert tab c into slot m.
Step two: Remove tab c from slot m, and insert into slot a.
Step three: Remove tab c from slot a, and re-insert into slot m.
 
2012-09-14 12:27:58 PM

ignatius_crumbcake: This morning Romney defined 'middle income' as people making between $200k and $250k. Way to go, Mittens.


interesting problem
middle income vs middle class - they are not necessarily the same thing

Oh never mind, I just dont care enough.
 
2012-09-14 12:28:38 PM

hinten: Vodka Zombie: hinten: Cool, filterpawn no worky with headlines.

Wat?

Ass, ass, ass, -ass, mouth-to-ass.


For the reading impaired
www.hotpicsofchicks.com
 
2012-09-14 12:33:40 PM

nyseattitude: hinten: Vodka Zombie: hinten: Cool, filterpawn no worky with headlines.

Wat?

Ass, ass, ass, -ass, mouth-to-ass.

For the reading impaired
[www.hotpicsofchicks.com image 236x267]


Newsletter? I need to practice my reading skills.
 
2012-09-14 12:33:53 PM

More_Like_A_Stain: I'll agree that location has an effect on ones standard of living. But really, when you're in the $200-$250K category, how many locations in the country are there that you would be on an equal footing with someone living in a less costly area on $100K or less?


the majority of people who earn in that range are in higher cost of living areas. Sure there are people who earn $250k a year in Wichita but there are far more of them in SF, NY, Boston, LA, etc both in terms of absolute number of people as well as per capita. That's just the nature of how it works. There is nowhere in the country where that amount can be considered hand-to-mouth (or mouth to ass) but when compared to the country in general, the standard of living is not that much greater than $100k (if at all) in other places.

That's the issue with using these nominal numbers. $250k a year for a family of 2 income earners might sound like a lot of money to you but in terms of what that $250k buys, it could be the equivalent of $100k in your area of the country. By the same token, $250k a year in your area of the country sounds like a shiat ton of money when it is upper middle class with regards to SOL in another region.
 
2012-09-14 12:35:21 PM

skullkrusher: qorkfiend: theorellior: I don't know how you can say that $250,000 a year is "middle income". I would have a hard time figuring out what to do with anything above $100K in my present way of living. Secondly, if $250,000 a year is middle income, why are people freaking out about teachers making $80,000? That's low, low middle income, surely they deserve more? Finally, the median income is somewhere around $45,000 per year. I find it hard to assert, with a straight face, that "middle income" is more than five times the median.

I think this may have been one of the rare cases when Romney's brain caught up to him before he finished the sentence.

"Middle income is $200,000 to $250,000..." wait, I can't say that! "...and less."

I thought he was agreeing with BO's $200/250k line of private jet demarcation :)


You know, you used to be someone that was interesting and, I thought, mostly reasonable in these threads. Now you are hardly anything more than a Repbublican shill.

Middle class = 200K to 250K and less

Allow me to write that in a simple logical statement :

200K
Easy enough?
 
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