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(Deadline)   Mandy Patinkin says working for CBS and especially doing Criminal Minds was his "biggest public mistake." Anything to burn a bridge, I guess   (deadline.com) divider line 96
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2012-09-14 08:48:33 AM  
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/I like Joe Mantegna's character better anyway...
 
2012-09-14 08:54:15 AM  
"Hey, Rube!"
 
2012-09-14 09:24:31 AM  
Well he's pretty awesome in Homeland so he has that going for him.
 
2012-09-14 09:27:09 AM  
He can allways rely on his tip jar on the piano.
 
2012-09-14 09:27:44 AM  
You keep using that word. I do not think it means what you think it means.
 
2012-09-14 09:42:01 AM  
"The biggest public mistake I ever made was that I chose to do Criminal Minds in the first place. I thought it was something very different. I never thought they were going to kill and rape all these women every night, every day, week after week, year after year. It was very destructive to my soul and my personality." Patinkin also addressed the whole crime drama genre. "I'm not making a judgment on the taste [of people who watch crime procedurals]," he said. "But I'm concerned about the effect it has. Audiences all over the world use this programming as their bedtime story. This isn't what you need to be dreaming about."

He isn't wrong about that last bit. those shows ARE pretty violent and depraved. sure, it's a paycheck but...I'm not sure i'd want to get up every day and read another script that deals with more ways to violate the human mind, body and/or spirit. there's been more than one episode of 'criminal minds' that made me ill.
 
2012-09-14 09:54:31 AM  

Paris1127: [i1.kym-cdn.com image 300x170]

/I like Joe Mantegna's character better anyway...


I especially like when he goes all "Fat Tony" on an unsub, Jason Alexander in particular.
 
2012-09-14 10:17:51 AM  
Well, he can always team up with James Caan again for an "Alien Nation" remake.


/ugh
 
2012-09-14 10:23:53 AM  
I can't believe 'Dead Like Me' started nine years ago.
 
2012-09-14 10:24:45 AM  
I was a big fan of Dead Like Me.
 
2012-09-14 10:25:05 AM  

Weaver95: "The biggest public mistake I ever made was that I chose to do Criminal Minds in the first place. I thought it was something very different. I never thought they were going to kill and rape all these women every night, every day, week after week, year after year. It was very destructive to my soul and my personality." Patinkin also addressed the whole crime drama genre. "I'm not making a judgment on the taste [of people who watch crime procedurals]," he said. "But I'm concerned about the effect it has. Audiences all over the world use this programming as their bedtime story. This isn't what you need to be dreaming about."

He isn't wrong about that last bit. those shows ARE pretty violent and depraved. sure, it's a paycheck but...I'm not sure i'd want to get up every day and read another script that deals with more ways to violate the human mind, body and/or spirit. there's been more than one episode of 'criminal minds' that made me ill.


Yeah, there's something off about that show. I used to watch it a little bit... but it's too much. I'd rather watch Castle. Still lots of crime fighting, but less creepy and more funny.
 
2012-09-14 10:25:17 AM  
Let's face it, Mandy marches to his own drummer.

Of course he probably has the lowest ratio of dollars/talent in the industry, but he can always sing "I did it my way."
 
mhd
2012-09-14 10:27:00 AM  
Nice little interview (direct link). I'm actually surprised that he's not annoyed at being quoted "My hname is Inigo..." over and over again.

/Criminal Minds has about a hundred seasons right now, like every other procedural, Dead Like Me was canceled pretty soon. Can't say that he's entirely wrong in his assessment.
 
2012-09-14 10:27:36 AM  
Hello. My name is Mandy Patinkin. I made a bad career choice. Prepare to die.
 
2012-09-14 10:28:12 AM  
don't get me wrong...I think criminal minds is a good show. but...I find myself watching it less than before. it's not openly gory or anything but the themes are creepy, icky and just plain inhuman. you watch the opening 10 min and ask yourself 'ok, what sort of horrible perversion is it going to be this episode?'

So I don't blame Mandy Patinkin for just walking away from all that. I'll bet it really WAS difficult for him to work around that stuff every day.
 
2012-09-14 10:28:40 AM  
Did he do it because it was instructed on a post it?
 
2012-09-14 10:36:21 AM  
I stopped watching CM after I realized how paranoid I was becoming.
 
2012-09-14 10:36:38 AM  

mhd: Nice little interview (direct link). I'm actually surprised that he's not annoyed at being quoted "My hname is Inigo..." over and over again.


I think I read something about Inigo being one of his most favorite roles.

I Love Mandy!
 
2012-09-14 10:36:39 AM  
Am I the only one who saw "biggest pubic mistake"?

/What exactly would constitute a pubic mistake?
 
2012-09-14 10:41:29 AM  

Englebert Slaptyback: I can't believe 'Dead Like Me' started nine years ago.


I can't believe they couldn't get Patinkin back for the DVD-movie. It just didn't feel right not having Rube there.
 
2012-09-14 10:42:26 AM  

mhd: I'm actually surprised that he's not annoyed at being quoted "My hname is Inigo..." over and over again.


Always wondered what became of that guy in the movie.
 
2012-09-14 11:09:38 AM  

Weaver95: "The biggest public mistake I ever made was that I chose to do Criminal Minds in the first place. I thought it was something very different. I never thought they were going to kill and rape all these women every night, every day, week after week, year after year. It was very destructive to my soul and my personality." Patinkin also addressed the whole crime drama genre. "I'm not making a judgment on the taste [of people who watch crime procedurals]," he said. "But I'm concerned about the effect it has. Audiences all over the world use this programming as their bedtime story. This isn't what you need to be dreaming about."

He isn't wrong about that last bit. those shows ARE pretty violent and depraved. sure, it's a paycheck but...I'm not sure i'd want to get up every day and read another script that deals with more ways to violate the human mind, body and/or spirit. there's been more than one episode of 'criminal minds' that made me ill.


Here here! I've never made it through an episode of Criminal Minds. After 5 minutes I turn it off thinking 'this is entertainment?' the same with The mentalist, which is a shame because originally I liked it.
 
2012-09-14 11:14:25 AM  
It's called criminal minds...what you think it's gonna be about, gum ball machine theft? Easy to complain once you've made your money.
 
2012-09-14 11:15:44 AM  

coco ebert: Well he's pretty awesome in Homeland so he has that going for him.


Everyone is pretty awesome on that show, excellent casting.
 
2012-09-14 11:15:54 AM  
I can agree that I wouldn't want my job to be doing that show every day. For people watching it though, it's a once a week thing, and I usually watch it (recorded) as the first show I'll watch in an evening and then watch something more light hearted after.

People are fascinated by deviant minds, and always have been, and always will be. Criminal Minds preaches the mantra of remembering the victims and not glorifying the killers, but it's kinda hypocritical since the whole show is only of interest because of the bizarre nature of the crimes and/or killers.

/Watched it high once... won't do that again
 
2012-09-14 11:24:19 AM  
I'm still stuck with Criminal Minds because of my girlfriend and Spencer with the hair but has anyone put up the clip of when AJ about knocked the one guy through a solid wall?

I'm not that stuck with it. It's a trade for White Collar, Burn Notice, and Psych and whatever else I want to watch. But I do point out Morgan, between his time on soaps, was in that godawful Birds of Prey show. And my Batgirl fan girlfriend hates that.

/Gubler was also Jimmy Olsen in All-Star Superman
//I do this when the episode gets boring, I just find every actor and give their resume
///The she counters with Paget Brewster saving Dan and Chris on Dan vs. and I shut up.
 
2012-09-14 11:30:11 AM  
Inconceivable!
 
2012-09-14 11:30:26 AM  

bluecrabscribe: Am I the only one who saw "biggest pubic mistake"?

/What exactly would constitute a pubic mistake?


Shaving down there with a dull razor blade.
 
2012-09-14 11:32:29 AM  

vudukungfu: mhd: I'm actually surprised that he's not annoyed at being quoted "My hname is Inigo..." over and over again.

Always wondered what became of that guy in the movie.


He's been doing shows the whole time but he gets bored quick and blames it on the violence. Dead Like Me (which had virtually no violence), Criminal Minds, and Homeland.

Does anyone remember he was in Alien Nation? Heavy makeup.
 
2012-09-14 11:35:19 AM  
I have no idea if the FBI actually uses the word "unsub," but I want to reach into the TV and smack somebody every time I hear one of them say it. It's a stupid word, and annoying. They think it makes them sound more authentic. I think it makes them sound like idiots.
 
2012-09-14 11:35:49 AM  

NeoCortex42: I can't believe they couldn't get Patinkin back for the DVD-movie. It just didn't feel right not having Rube there.


God, that movie was terrible. I was so disappointed after watching that terrific show.

Weaver95: don't get me wrong...I think criminal minds is a good show. but...I find myself watching it less than before. it's not openly gory or anything but the themes are creepy, icky and just plain inhuman. you watch the opening 10 min and ask yourself 'ok, what sort of horrible perversion is it going to be this episode?'

So I don't blame Mandy Patinkin for just walking away from all that. I'll bet it really WAS difficult for him to work around that stuff every day.


I hear you. I used to love the show, and I learned to really like Mantegna's character, but I think I'm over it. It's just an exercise in darkness.

Anyway, while I don't disagree with his decision, isn't it sort of well-known that Mandy Patinkin is notoriously difficult to work with? I recall reading that he was a PITA to work with on Chicago Hope and a jackass on Dead Like Me.
 
2012-09-14 11:42:21 AM  

Shadowtag: vudukungfu: mhd: I'm actually surprised that he's not annoyed at being quoted "My hname is Inigo..." over and over again.

Always wondered what became of that guy in the movie.

He's been doing shows the whole time but he gets bored quick and blames it on the violence. Dead Like Me (which had virtually no violence), Criminal Minds, and Homeland.

Does anyone remember he was in Alien Nation? Heavy makeup.


He was also at least fifty pounds heavier.
 
2012-09-14 11:42:54 AM  
You cashed the checks, no?
 
2012-09-14 11:44:26 AM  
Huh?  I didn't find Criminal Minds to be all that sick and depraved.  It was actually fairly smart at times.
 
I don't know, maybe I'm better at separating fact and fiction.  I'd get sick watching actual rapes and murders (like any sane person)... but in a fictional drama it doesn't have any affect on me really.
 
2012-09-14 11:45:19 AM  

Weaver95: don't get me wrong...I think criminal minds is a good show. but...I find myself watching it less than before. it's not openly gory or anything but the themes are creepy, icky and just plain inhuman. you watch the opening 10 min and ask yourself 'ok, what sort of horrible perversion is it going to be this episode?'

So I don't blame Mandy Patinkin for just walking away from all that. I'll bet it really WAS difficult for him to work around that stuff every day.


Valid point.
 
2012-09-14 11:55:27 AM  
I don't watch anything on CBS because I'm not a moron.
 
2012-09-14 11:56:17 AM  
I figured a dude with a name like "Mandy" would be the biggest public mistake.....
 
2012-09-14 11:59:46 AM  
Patinkin is awesome. Tremendous in The Princess Bride, outstanding on Chicago Hope, terrific on Dead Like Me, brilliant on Homeland.

I've never seen Criminal Minds, but I respect the guy's point of view.
 
mhd
2012-09-14 12:00:50 PM  

downstairs: Huh? I didn't find Criminal Minds to be all that sick and depraved. It was actually fairly smart at times.


I found it to be pretty mixed. Granted, I stopped watching about the time when Patinkin left, so I might mix things up a bit. At times it felt like the whole desensitization he complains about was actually being integrated in the structure of the series, with some characters (esp. his own) being quite affected by their daily work in one way or the other. But eventually that was mostly scrapped or felt as a sideline due to the need for one case per episode. It probably would've fared much better if there would've been some overarching plot, something like The Wire/Shield meets abnormal psychology.

/Best"profiler" type series I've ever seen still remains Wire in the Blood.
 
2012-09-14 12:10:31 PM  

mhd: downstairs: Huh? I didn't find Criminal Minds to be all that sick and depraved. It was actually fairly smart at times.

I found it to be pretty mixed. Granted, I stopped watching about the time when Patinkin left, so I might mix things up a bit. At times it felt like the whole desensitization he complains about was actually being integrated in the structure of the series, with some characters (esp. his own) being quite affected by their daily work in one way or the other. But eventually that was mostly scrapped or felt as a sideline due to the need for one case per episode. It probably would've fared much better if there would've been some overarching plot, something like The Wire/Shield meets abnormal psychology.

3.bp.blogspot.com
So you missed The Reaper episodes? I never thought I'd use C. Thomas Howell and brilliant in the same sentence, but here we are. One warning:the end is EXTREMELY dark, even by CM standards.
 
2012-09-14 12:13:02 PM  
 
2012-09-14 12:17:03 PM  
I love Mandy Patinkin, and absolutely love Criminal minds. The show does gross me out and sometimes rattles me a bit to where I have to turn my head the other way. I always misspell Criminal as Crimanal. So thankful for spell-check.
 
2012-09-14 12:21:02 PM  

tillerman35: I have no idea if the FBI actually uses the word "unsub," but I want to reach into the TV and smack somebody every time I hear one of them say it. It's a stupid word, and annoying. They think it makes them sound more authentic. I think it makes them sound like idiots.


I hear you. I had honestly never heard that word before in my life before this show, so I had to look it up when I first heard it. I thought to myself, "why wouldn't you just say 'suspect'?"
 
2012-09-14 12:24:48 PM  

coco ebert: Well he's pretty awesome in Homeland so he has that going for him.


He is basically playing the same character as he did in CM.

I'm just waiting for CM to do what they know they want to do and have Reed slip into multiple personality disorder and start killing people. Then have the BAU, with Reed, unknowingly investigating his crimes.
 
2012-09-14 12:26:32 PM  
Subby, he didn't really come down on CBS as much as the genre of "procedurals". He's great in Homeland but I've always thought he's a bit of a headcase when it comes to his work choices. Chicago Hope was better than ER IMO before he left and the buddy meetings with Arkin at the end of each show was reborn with Shatner and Spader on Boston Legal (both David E Kelley shows). I watch way too much TV.
 
2012-09-14 12:28:03 PM  
He was pretty awesome in The Adventures of Elmo in Grouchland.

/why yes, I do have kids.
 
2012-09-14 12:31:33 PM  

GavinTheAlmighty: tillerman35: I have no idea if the FBI actually uses the word "unsub," but I want to reach into the TV and smack somebody every time I hear one of them say it. It's a stupid word, and annoying. They think it makes them sound more authentic. I think it makes them sound like idiots.

I hear you. I had honestly never heard that word before in my life before this show, so I had to look it up when I first heard it. I thought to myself, "why wouldn't you just say 'suspect'?"



They do overuse it on the show, but it means "unknown subject"... a suspect is a known person.  Just getting technical here.
 
2012-09-14 12:32:39 PM  
He is pretending no one saw his The Wild Party.
 
2012-09-14 12:32:45 PM  
Short memory.......
www.wearysloth.com
 
2012-09-14 12:51:02 PM  
I love Mandy Patinkin. He's a fantastic actor - wish he'd done more of Dead Like me.
 
2012-09-14 12:54:53 PM  

downstairs: They do overuse it on the show, but it means "unknown subject"... a suspect is a known person. Just getting technical here.


Oh yeah, I dig that; I just figured that for the sake of me not getting stabby, they could stop using a stupid word. Kind of like when people say "munch on something" instead of "eat".
 
2012-09-14 01:01:38 PM  

Shadowtag: vudukungfu: mhd: I'm actually surprised that he's not annoyed at being quoted "My hname is Inigo..." over and over again.

Always wondered what became of that guy in the movie.

He's been doing shows the whole time but he gets bored quick and blames it on the violence. Dead Like Me (which had virtually no violence), Criminal Minds, and Homeland.

Does anyone remember he was in Alien Nation? Heavy makeup.


He was drinking a lot of sour milk in those days, he not remember much.
 
2012-09-14 01:05:32 PM  

Evil Mackerel: Shadowtag: vudukungfu: mhd: I'm actually surprised that he's not annoyed at being quoted "My hname is Inigo..." over and over again.

Always wondered what became of that guy in the movie.

He's been doing shows the whole time but he gets bored quick and blames it on the violence. Dead Like Me (which had virtually no violence), Criminal Minds, and Homeland.

Does anyone remember he was in Alien Nation? Heavy makeup.

He was drinking a lot of sour milk in those days, he may not remember much.


FTFM
 
2012-09-14 01:06:50 PM  

Mrembo: I stopped watching CM after I realized how paranoid I was becoming.


Word.
 
2012-09-14 01:24:13 PM  

mesmer242: Weaver95: "The biggest public mistake I ever made was that I chose to do Criminal Minds in the first place. I thought it was something very different. I never thought they were going to kill and rape all these women every night, every day, week after week, year after year. It was very destructive to my soul and my personality." Patinkin also addressed the whole crime drama genre. "I'm not making a judgment on the taste [of people who watch crime procedurals]," he said. "But I'm concerned about the effect it has. Audiences all over the world use this programming as their bedtime story. This isn't what you need to be dreaming about."

He isn't wrong about that last bit. those shows ARE pretty violent and depraved. sure, it's a paycheck but...I'm not sure i'd want to get up every day and read another script that deals with more ways to violate the human mind, body and/or spirit. there's been more than one episode of 'criminal minds' that made me ill.

Yeah, there's something off about that show. I used to watch it a little bit... but it's too much. I'd rather watch Castle. Still lots of crime fighting, but less creepy and more funny.


Glad I'm not the only one who noticed that...Criminal minds takes a it too much glee in it's "torture porn" moments. It's like a serialized TV version of Saw or Hostel. The CSI shows certainly like their "shock moments" ("The victim had two quarts of semen in his stomach, none of it human" , but they don;t seem quite as bloodthristy, sadistic, or as happy about it.
 
2012-09-14 01:26:39 PM  

tomasso: he can always sing "I did it my way. Sam Francisco here I come"

 
2012-09-14 01:41:50 PM  
Sunday in the park with George is fantastic. As is his cast for Secret Garden.
 
2012-09-14 02:13:31 PM  

coco ebert: Well he's pretty awesome in Homeland so he has that going for him.


Until he has another hissy fit and quits the show suddenly. He's got a reputation for this.
 
2012-09-14 02:14:00 PM  

bluecrabscribe: /What exactly would constitute a pubic mistake?


Mohawk.
 
2012-09-14 02:18:58 PM  

Magorn: mesmer242: Weaver95: "The biggest public mistake I ever made was that I chose to do Criminal Minds in the first place. I thought it was something very different. I never thought they were going to kill and rape all these women every night, every day, week after week, year after year. It was very destructive to my soul and my personality." Patinkin also addressed the whole crime drama genre. "I'm not making a judgment on the taste [of people who watch crime procedurals]," he said. "But I'm concerned about the effect it has. Audiences all over the world use this programming as their bedtime story. This isn't what you need to be dreaming about."

He isn't wrong about that last bit. those shows ARE pretty violent and depraved. sure, it's a paycheck but...I'm not sure i'd want to get up every day and read another script that deals with more ways to violate the human mind, body and/or spirit. there's been more than one episode of 'criminal minds' that made me ill.

Yeah, there's something off about that show. I used to watch it a little bit... but it's too much. I'd rather watch Castle. Still lots of crime fighting, but less creepy and more funny.

Glad I'm not the only one who noticed that...Criminal minds takes a it too much glee in it's "torture porn" moments. It's like a serialized TV version of Saw or Hostel. The CSI shows certainly like their "shock moments" ("The victim had two quarts of semen in his stomach, none of it human" , but they don;t seem quite as bloodthristy, sadistic, or as happy about it.


Wait, that actually happened on the show?

/Saw the 20 minute preview of the next season of Homeland
//Jonesin' for it
///Got to hack it... got to hack it...
 
2012-09-14 02:24:07 PM  

I_Love_Cheesecake: coco ebert: Well he's pretty awesome in Homeland so he has that going for him.

Until he has another hissy fit and quits the show suddenly. He's got a reputation for this.


Yeah, I've heard he's a high-maintenance actor.
 
2012-09-14 02:27:46 PM  

GavinTheAlmighty: tillerman35: I have no idea if the FBI actually uses the word "unsub," but I want to reach into the TV and smack somebody every time I hear one of them say it. It's a stupid word, and annoying. They think it makes them sound more authentic. I think it makes them sound like idiots.

I hear you. I had honestly never heard that word before in my life before this show, so I had to look it up when I first heard it. I thought to myself, "why wouldn't you just say 'suspect'?"


Because "Suspect" means you actually are looking at an actual person, with a real name, family, life and all that. "Un-Sub" means you're still working on a idea of who the glitch'd-up mofo is, no real person is in your radar yet. The reporters will listen to the description of an Un-Sub, then ask, "Do you have any Suspects yet?" Simple.
 
2012-09-14 02:46:39 PM  
When you watch other peoples pain for its entertainment value, what does that say about you?
 
2012-09-14 02:48:43 PM  
That's a pretty bold statement for a guy named Mandy whose most famous role consists of a one liner and a bad mustache.
 
2012-09-14 02:59:05 PM  

Weaver95: "The biggest public mistake I ever made was that I chose to do Criminal Minds in the first place. I thought it was something very different. I never thought they were going to kill and rape all these women every night, every day, week after week, year after year. It was very destructive to my soul and my personality." Patinkin also addressed the whole crime drama genre. "I'm not making a judgment on the taste [of people who watch crime procedurals]," he said. "But I'm concerned about the effect it has. Audiences all over the world use this programming as their bedtime story. This isn't what you need to be dreaming about."

He isn't wrong about that last bit. those shows ARE pretty violent and depraved. sure, it's a paycheck but...I'm not sure i'd want to get up every day and read another script that deals with more ways to violate the human mind, body and/or spirit. there's been more than one episode of 'criminal minds' that made me ill.


yeah...i kind of just got back into television after a long hiatus...the first 2-3 of this i watched i kinda liked...then, and now...no thanks.
 
2012-09-14 03:03:48 PM  
So, a guy decides that he is not really comfortable in a role and decides to do something else, and for some reason that is a scandal? In my world that is called living your life.

Also, Mandy can do whatever he wants after Sunday in the Park with George.
 
2012-09-14 03:16:48 PM  
therepublika.files.wordpress.com

You use the word "mistake" a lot. I do not think it means what you think it means.
 
2012-09-14 03:21:27 PM  

Englebert Slaptyback: I can't believe 'Dead Like Me' started nine years ago.


THIS and

braedan: I was a big fan of Dead Like Me.


This and

JohnBigBootay: I love Mandy Patinkin. He's a fantastic actor - wish he'd done more of Dead Like me.


This

I'd like to see another season and a good conclusion to that series with Mandy Patinkin, Pumpkin.
 
2012-09-14 03:25:42 PM  
I can't say I blame him. I'd find it depressing doing a show about the worst kind of people possible.

And for the record, I liked Alien Nation
 
2012-09-14 03:43:55 PM  

AdolfOliverPanties: Patinkin is awesome. Tremendous in The Princess Bride, outstanding on Chicago Hope, terrific on Dead Like Me, brilliant on Homeland.

I've never seen Criminal Minds, but I respect the guy's point of view.


No love for Yentl?

img.photobucket.com 

/has no love for Yentl
 
2012-09-14 03:52:45 PM  

WordsnCollision: No love for Yentl?


No, none at all.
 
2012-09-14 03:59:53 PM  

Kanemano: When you watch other peoples pain for its entertainment value, what does that say about you?


That you are on the Internet, and welcome to Fark.
 
2012-09-14 04:09:03 PM  

Optimal_Illusion: Kanemano: When you watch other peoples pain for its entertainment value, what does that say about you?

That you are on the Internet, and welcome to Fark.


But I already know that I am a depraved asshole.
 
2012-09-14 04:14:13 PM  

GameSprocket: So, a guy decides that he is not really comfortable in a role and decides to do something else, and for some reason that is a scandal? In my world that is called living your life.

Also, Mandy can do whatever he wants after Sunday in the Park with George.


I don't think it's so much that, as much it was how he did it. Just decided not to show up on the first day of shooting the second season. And then came up with the excuse that he didn't like the violence. The pilot script had violence in it, and he knew what the material was about. That didn't suddenly change through out the first season.
 
2012-09-14 04:38:55 PM  

Nana's Vibrator: I'd like to see another season and a good conclusion to that series with Mandy Patinkin, Pumpkin Peanut.


FTFY
 
2012-09-14 04:42:01 PM  
Never saw the show, but it seems to me he is dramatically overstating the emotional impact of network television. There's only so far you can go when you have to appease mainstream advertisers.
 
2012-09-14 04:57:36 PM  
There are a handfull of actors that appear to be too good for the shows they're on. Fortunately they don't stay much more than a few seasons.
 
2012-09-14 05:17:29 PM  
I watched 5 minutes of that show once. When the hot chick cop explained to the quirky twitchy nerd cop the nature of the unsub's mental disorder, even though they're both cops with backgrounds in mental disorders, I had to stop watching.
 
2012-09-14 05:25:55 PM  

Kanemano: When you watch other peoples pain for its entertainment value, what does that say about you?


I wonder this too. Most of the popular shows of the last decade or so have featured protagonists who are pretty horrible people. The Shield, Sopranos, Dexter, Breaking Bad, etc. I know I'm in the minority here, but I can't seem to be entertained when I hate every single character.

I know, I should go watch my Mr Rogers DVDs.
 
2012-09-14 05:55:47 PM  
To be fair, it IS a horrible, horrible show.
 
2012-09-14 06:04:30 PM  

vudukungfu: He can allways rely on his tip jar on the piano.


Nice Dick Tracy reference.

www.mandypatinkin.net
 
2012-09-14 06:26:39 PM  

LDM90: Kanemano: When you watch other peoples pain for its entertainment value, what does that say about you?

I wonder this too. Most of the popular shows of the last decade or so have featured protagonists who are pretty horrible people. The Shield, Sopranos, Dexter, Breaking Bad, etc. I know I'm in the minority here, but I can't seem to be entertained when I hate every single character.

I know, I should go watch my Mr Rogers DVDs.


Isn't watching other peoples pain for entertainment what humans have been doing since Ancient Greek theater and probably before?
 
2012-09-14 06:30:28 PM  

bluecrabscribe: Am I the only one who saw "biggest pubic mistake"?

/What exactly would constitute a pubic mistake?


trimming your ballsack with nail scissors.
 
2012-09-14 06:33:48 PM  

Vash's Apprentice: mhd: downstairs: Huh? I didn't find Criminal Minds to be all that sick and depraved. It was actually fairly smart at times.

I found it to be pretty mixed. Granted, I stopped watching about the time when Patinkin left, so I might mix things up a bit. At times it felt like the whole desensitization he complains about was actually being integrated in the structure of the series, with some characters (esp. his own) being quite affected by their daily work in one way or the other. But eventually that was mostly scrapped or felt as a sideline due to the need for one case per episode. It probably would've fared much better if there would've been some overarching plot, something like The Wire/Shield meets abnormal psychology.

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So you missed The Reaper episodes? I never thought I'd use C. Thomas Howell and brilliant in the same sentence, but here we are. One warning:the end is EXTREMELY dark, even by CM standards.


..I parsed that as 'Thomas Haden Church' first go round and went 'that's not..oh, I'm stupid'.

As far as the statement, I think people are pretty dead on: watching it as a passive experience, even chain-gunning episodes or a whole season in a day, is different than waking up, reading a script, getting into character and imagining/feeling/concepting these women being assaulted and degraded and killed every day for months/years on end.

It would wear on a person. Me, as a viewer, it's just a more interesting investigation crime drama that has fewer horribly disruptive aspects like magic technology in CSI, or women wearing 30 pounds of makeup and 15 inch heels in CSI: whores,

I liked the older CSI but haven't seen any in years (and obviously hate the spinoffs), and simply haven't had the time or inclination to watch any of the newer crime dramas like white collar or Dexter (is that still on?). I've tried Burn notice, but something about the main male actor makes me want to kill him, and the female lead is supposed to be this sexy thing, but to me she's just rather ugly, and the entire show as a whole comes off as forced and 'you should think this is smart and sophisticated and sexy because we can't be assed to make it actually like that'.
 
2012-09-14 07:02:49 PM  

gadian: That's a pretty bold statement for a guy named Mandy whose most famous role consists of a one liner and a bad mustache.


troll on, oh ignorant one.
 
2012-09-14 07:43:42 PM  
PAGET BREWSTER. That is all.
 
2012-09-14 08:28:59 PM  

tillerman35: I have no idea if the FBI actually uses the word "unsub," but I want to reach into the TV and smack somebody every time I hear one of them say it. It's a stupid word, and annoying. They think it makes them sound more authentic. I think it makes them sound like idiots.


The FBI really does use "unsub." However, they only use it until they identify the criminal in question. It stands for unknown subject. See? Unsub. CM uses it all. The. Farking. Time. Even when they know the crazy guy's name. Which btw makes him the opposite of an unsub because he's not an unknown subject anymore.
 
2012-09-14 10:41:45 PM  
~Ahem~

www.mandypatinkin.net
 
2012-09-14 11:53:04 PM  

NeoCortex42: Englebert Slaptyback: I can't believe 'Dead Like Me' started nine years ago.

I can't believe they couldn't get Patinkin back for the DVD-movie. It just didn't feel right not having Rube there.


Gah, the DVD movie sucked balls. No Rube, the actress that played Daisy couldn't act her way out of a wet paper bag, and Ellen Muth's makeup artist needs to have his/her power sprayer taken away and be bludgeoned with it.
 
2012-09-15 01:26:12 AM  

Magorn: Criminal minds takes a it too much glee in it's "torture porn" moments. It's like a serialized TV version of Saw or Hostel.


If Prentiss comes to arrest the unsub for the torture porn it's all good.
Mmh good. Feels good. Is good. Real good.
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2012-09-15 01:56:01 AM  

dittybopper: Hello. My name is Mandy Patinkin. I made a bad career choice. Prepare to die.


My only regret is that I have but one vote to give to you.

/funny
 
2012-09-15 02:06:44 AM  

SurelyShirley: Magorn: Criminal minds takes a it too much glee in it's "torture porn" moments. It's like a serialized TV version of Saw or Hostel.

If Prentiss comes to arrest the unsub me for watching torture porn it's all good.
Mmh good. Feels good. Is good. Real good.
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2012-09-15 11:11:51 AM  

DarthBart: NeoCortex42: Englebert Slaptyback: I can't believe 'Dead Like Me' started nine years ago.

I can't believe they couldn't get Patinkin back for the DVD-movie. It just didn't feel right not having Rube there.

Gah, the DVD movie sucked balls. No Rube, the actress that played Daisy couldn't act her way out of a wet paper bag, and Ellen Muth's makeup artist needs to have his/her power sprayer taken away and be bludgeoned with it.


I've watched the entire Dead Like Me series from beginning to end several times. I think it's one of the best - and most underrated - things to have aired on TV in its time. Couldn't bring myself to watch the DVD, though, I was afraid it would ruin things. Mostly because Patankin wasn't there.

Did someone other than Laura Davis play Daisy?

And has Ellen Muth done anything since that series?
 
2012-09-15 11:34:22 AM  

Nogale: DarthBart: NeoCortex42: Englebert Slaptyback: I can't believe 'Dead Like Me' started nine years ago.

I can't believe they couldn't get Patinkin back for the DVD-movie. It just didn't feel right not having Rube there.

Gah, the DVD movie sucked balls. No Rube, the actress that played Daisy couldn't act her way out of a wet paper bag, and Ellen Muth's makeup artist needs to have his/her power sprayer taken away and be bludgeoned with it.

I've watched the entire Dead Like Me series from beginning to end several times. I think it's one of the best - and most underrated - things to have aired on TV in its time. Couldn't bring myself to watch the DVD, though, I was afraid it would ruin things. Mostly because Patankin wasn't there.

Did someone other than Laura Davis play Daisy?

And has Ellen Muth done anything since that series?


The DVD doesn't ruin the series in any way, but it is a huge letdown when it comes to tying up ideas presented in the series. It's basically a stand-alone story about Desmond from Lost trying to screw with the natural order. It's very forgettable.
 
2012-09-15 03:01:59 PM  

T.M.S.: He is pretending no one saw his The Wild Party.


I've blocked it out enough that I forgot he was in it until you said that. Does that count?
 
2012-09-15 05:47:04 PM  
He thinks Criminal Minds was a bigger public mistake than his musical episode of Chicago Hope with those Circ du Soleil clowns?

Seriously?

Because that was awful

/ and more than worthy of ridicule.
 
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