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2012-09-14 07:26:57 AM
I'm glad this company is stepping up. I think the VA and most of private industry has dropped the ball and does not appreciate veterans, it's good someone is making such an offer.
 
2012-09-14 07:44:59 AM
"Offering the franchises only to military veterans gives them the opportunity to know, 'In this program, I don't have to compete against this guy who has a college degree or against that guy who just went to business school.' Right now, these people need a leg up,"

Bullshiat. This is illegal employment discrimination. I hope you get sued. Veterans already get affirmative action status for a lot of positions. Enlistment in the military should not be a requirement for citizenship.
 
2012-09-14 07:54:40 AM
I think they "appreciate" veterans. They make big claims to hire X amount of new veterans. But the reality is that most of those will be company grade officers, and senior NCOs. We need people who will hire the junior enlisted. The E-1 through E-5's especially the combat arms. The most important jobs in the military are the Infantry, the tankers, the engineers, and the artillery. Unfortunately, those are the people who leave the military with the least valuable skills.
 
2012-09-14 08:02:13 AM

Ivandrago: I think they "appreciate" veterans. They make big claims to hire X amount of new veterans. But the reality is that most of those will be company grade officers, and senior NCOs. We need people who will hire the junior enlisted. The E-1 through E-5's especially the combat arms. The most important jobs in the military are the Infantry, the tankers, the engineers, and the artillery. Unfortunately, those are the people who leave the military with the least valuable skills.


Good point here. Junior enlisted get shiat on when they get out.
 
2012-09-14 08:03:08 AM

Ivandrago: I think they "appreciate" veterans. They make big claims to hire X amount of new veterans. But the reality is that most of those will be company grade officers, and senior NCOs. We need people who will hire the junior enlisted. The E-1 through E-5's especially the combat arms. The most important jobs in the military are the Infantry, the tankers, the engineers, and the artillery. Unfortunately, those are the people who leave the military with the least valuable skills.


And become cops trained in urban warfare which is why we're seeing constant video captured beatdowns by cops.
 
2012-09-14 08:09:56 AM
Isn't that discrimination?
 
2012-09-14 08:45:41 AM

dervish16108: I'm glad this company is stepping up. I think the VA and most of private industry has dropped the ball and does not appreciate veterans, it's good someone is making such an offer.


before retirement i worked for several Fortune 100 companies. in those days ex-military personnel were given first consideration, or at least from their vast numbers it certainly appeared that way. it was win-win for the employers to hire ex-mil as their training and experience made them better employees. those fellows took pride in their personal appearance, showed up like they should, didn't whine like a bunch of sissy marys and they got the job done no matter how crappy things got.

i also worked for a few small companies along the way and met guys that were sweet talked by recruiters. these guys were disgruntled ex-mil who took no transferable skills into the civilian workplace. not many jobs for tank specialists in every day life.
 
2012-09-14 08:53:28 AM

xynix: Ivandrago: I think they "appreciate" veterans. They make big claims to hire X amount of new veterans. But the reality is that most of those will be company grade officers, and senior NCOs. We need people who will hire the junior enlisted. The E-1 through E-5's especially the combat arms. The most important jobs in the military are the Infantry, the tankers, the engineers, and the artillery. Unfortunately, those are the people who leave the military with the least valuable skills.

And become cops trained in urban warfare which is why we're seeing constant video captured beatdowns by cops.


You have no idea what you're talking about. "Urban warfare" skills and hitting someone with a collapsible baton are two very different things. You need me to stack and clear a room? I can do it. But the Army had to teach me how. You need to me to hit someone with a stick? I could do that before I joined.

KrispyKritter: i also worked for a few small companies along the way and met guys that were sweet talked by recruiters. these guys were disgruntled ex-mil who took no transferable skills into the civilian workplace. not many jobs for tank specialists in every day life.


That's my point. We need to retrain most of our combat arms Soldiers because they don't have skills that translate. Many of them joined the military so they wouldn't have to work at the local factory or in fast food and they wanted career options. But recruiters tell them how awesome tanks are (because they are) and they become tankers and afterwards there isn't much else they can do. If this guy wants to offer franchises to those Soldiers, I'm all for it. Unfortunately, most that I know don't have the $15k to start the franchise. At least he's trying, though.
 
2012-09-14 08:53:33 AM

Tommy Moo: "Offering the franchises only to military veterans gives them the opportunity to know, 'In this program, I don't have to compete against this guy who has a college degree or against that guy who just went to business school.' Right now, these people need a leg up,"

Bullshiat. This is illegal employment discrimination. I hope you get sued. Veterans already get affirmative action status for a lot of positions. Enlistment in the military should not be a requirement for citizenship.


Your mom takes my junk all the time
 
2012-09-14 08:59:05 AM
Yes, because the military is releasing people with the critical skill sets necessary to become JUNK MEN.

/Hey, ho, way to go Merikuh!
 
2012-09-14 09:06:19 AM

dervish16108: I'm glad this company is stepping up. I think the VA and most of private industry has dropped the ball and does not appreciate veterans, it's good someone is making such an offer.


It's not really a case of lack of appreciation. It used to be that the military taught a spectrum of skills that translated instantly into civilian jobs. Most of the support missions have been replaced by private for-profit contractors. Everything from vehicle and aircraft maintenance to laundry to food service to motor pool to security to intelligence collection and analysis (around here there are lots of job posting for the last one, strangely enough) have been OUTSOURCED to private firms.
For the most part, you don't join the military to learn a skill that translates into a civilian skill set anymore; those jobs are not part of the military experience any longer.
 
2012-09-14 10:11:46 AM

Junk removal company


I'll keep my junk where it is, thanks.


Good headline, subby.
 
2012-09-14 10:53:50 AM
Oh please, please, please let the companies featured in the article be on the level. Please, don't let them be a scam to rip off veterans.

USAA only services veterans so, in a way, the concept has been done before. I like the concept. I just wish I didn't feel so paranoid about it. I wish I could be relaxed and trusting about it.
 
2012-09-14 10:58:00 AM

dervish16108: I'm glad this company is stepping up. I think the VA and most of private industry has dropped the ball and does not appreciate veterans, it's good someone is making such an offer.


We're long past due for a Veterans' Work Corp.

For starters, I'd love to see veterans tasked with constructing the worlds' most modern, efficient mass transit system. In my fantasy this transit system is so awesome Tea Party folks club one another with their canes to get on the trains, Willie Nelson and Metallica join forces to lead an all-star tribute concert, and environmentalists weep with joy on the boarding platforms.

Not that I have, you know, high expectations or anything.
 
2012-09-14 10:58:40 AM

Tommy Moo: "Offering the franchises only to military veterans gives them the opportunity to know, 'In this program, I don't have to compete against this guy who has a college degree or against that guy who just went to business school.' Right now, these people need a leg up,"

Bullshiat. This is illegal employment discrimination. I hope you get sued. Veterans already get affirmative action status for a lot of positions. Enlistment in the military should not be a requirement for citizenship.


Whiny little biatch.
 
2012-09-14 11:21:36 AM

Lunaville: Tommy Moo: "Offering the franchises only to military veterans gives them the opportunity to know, 'In this program, I don't have to compete against this guy who has a college degree or against that guy who just went to business school.' Right now, these people need a leg up,"

Bullshiat. This is illegal employment discrimination. I hope you get sued. Veterans already get affirmative action status for a lot of positions. Enlistment in the military should not be a requirement for citizenship.

Whiny little biatch.


Yeah, and blacks and women are whiny little biatches when employers blatantly post signs out front that say "Help wanted. White men only."

And don't try to draw a line because military service isn't something your born into like race or gender. Religious discrimination is also illegal, and that's something a person chooses. The only things it is legal to base a hiring decision on is whether a person's work and education history are sufficient for the job and his or her reputation for work ethic.
 
2012-09-14 11:22:30 AM
*you're

/point stands
 
2012-09-14 11:26:13 AM
Dsicrimination, probably.
On a recent job application at a university in Virginia there were numerous required-answer questions asking about military service. Just like at the post office.
Preferential hiring.
 
2012-09-14 11:46:05 AM
Employers should be allowed to discriminate. Why is who I choose to give money to any of the government's business?
 
2012-09-14 01:22:07 PM

KrispyKritter: dervish16108: I'm glad this company is stepping up. I think the VA and most of private industry has dropped the ball and does not appreciate veterans, it's good someone is making such an offer.

before retirement i worked for several Fortune 100 companies. in those days ex-military personnel were given first consideration, or at least from their vast numbers it certainly appeared that way. it was win-win for the employers to hire ex-mil as their training and experience made them better employees. those fellows took pride in their personal appearance, showed up like they should, didn't whine like a bunch of sissy marys and they got the job done no matter how crappy things got.

i also worked for a few small companies along the way and met guys that were sweet talked by recruiters. these guys were disgruntled ex-mil who took no transferable skills into the civilian workplace. not many jobs for tank specialists in every day life.


Your experiance with veterans is the exact opposite of mine. With rare exceptions I have not found them to be remotely able to do the job we asked. We need people who are willing to buck the system and piss people off. Not people who dress nicely and don't biatch.

/my last boss was in the Air Force
//my current boss was in the Marines
///exceptions to the rule
////never been in the military.
/slashies!
 
2012-09-14 01:53:57 PM

HotIgneous Intruder: dervish16108: I'm glad this company is stepping up. I think the VA and most of private industry has dropped the ball and does not appreciate veterans, it's good someone is making such an offer.

It's not really a case of lack of appreciation. It used to be that the military taught a spectrum of skills that translated instantly into civilian jobs. Most of the support missions have been replaced by private for-profit contractors. Everything from vehicle and aircraft maintenance to laundry to food service to motor pool to security to intelligence collection and analysis (around here there are lots of job posting for the last one, strangely enough) have been OUTSOURCED to private firms.
For the most part, you don't join the military to learn a skill that translates into a civilian skill set anymore; those jobs are not part of the military experience any longer.


Pretty much what I came to say. Unless you take the time to learn a new skill or take classes you'll leave the military with basically the same employ-ability you had when you entered.

Let's face it, many junior enlisted joined at 18-20 because the only jobs they were qualified for in their area was fast food, manual labor, or the military. They get discharged and now they are still only qualified for fast food, manual labor, or the military. It's not the best of situations but it's not that surprising. It's why we have the GI Bill.
 
2012-09-14 09:46:18 PM

KrispyKritter: dervish16108: I'm glad this company is stepping up. I think the VA and most of private industry has dropped the ball and does not appreciate veterans, it's good someone is making such an offer.

before retirement i worked for several Fortune 100 companies. in those days ex-military personnel were given first consideration, or at least from their vast numbers it certainly appeared that way. it was win-win for the employers to hire ex-mil as their training and experience made them better employees. those fellows took pride in their personal appearance, showed up like they should, didn't whine like a bunch of sissy marys and they got the job done no matter how crappy things got.

i also worked for a few small companies along the way and met guys that were sweet talked by recruiters. these guys were disgruntled ex-mil who took no transferable skills into the civilian workplace. not many jobs for tank specialists in every day life.


I read a resume from a guy who took two pages to tell me his job in the Army was to dress up like foliage and go on nighttime spy missions.
 
2012-09-15 03:03:58 PM
It's very kind of him to offer certain types of people the opportunity to give him money.
 
2012-09-16 05:32:09 PM
There are sadly a lot of scams aimed at veterans. Often times if they've been overseas for awhile they have a chunk of change in the bank, good credit, and the armed forces credit union is willing to stake them for some money. If this guy is one of those scammers, may he be sodomized by a bayonet.
 
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