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2012-09-13 11:53:48 PM  
I'm going to say twice a week, Bob.
 
2012-09-13 11:59:54 PM  
It's raining men?
 
2012-09-14 12:01:21 AM  
That's a special kind of dumb right there. What do these idiots think is going to happen when they are five miles high and the few oxygen molecules they're finding are pretty damn cold anyway?
 
2012-09-14 12:14:03 AM  
"They're almost all male."

Truly a mystery for the ages. Why would young men risk their lives doing something physical and stupid while young women usually don't? It surely must be a unique phenomenom limited only to stowing away on planes.
 
2012-09-14 12:21:13 AM  
lotacharm.angelfire.com
 
2012-09-14 12:22:29 AM  
It depends. Is the bunny back in the box?
 
2012-09-14 12:23:31 AM  
three
 
2012-09-14 12:25:54 AM  

Confabulat: That's a special kind of dumb right there. What do these idiots think is going to happen when they are five miles high and the few oxygen molecules they're finding are pretty damn cold anyway?


I DNRTFA, but as I recall most of them are poor, desperate, uneducated and are thus unfamiliar with basic physics. If you know anything about high altitudes (mountain climbing or flying) you know that hypoxia is likely to start at altitudes around 15K-20K ft and any higher than that it's fatal without supplemental O2. Likewise, if you've ever flown long-distance and watched the in-flight displays, you know that at cruising altitude of 35K-40K ft the outside temps are about -70F. However, your average 3rd world refugee probably hasn't a clue.
 
2012-09-14 01:01:58 AM  
3.bp.blogspot.com
 
2012-09-14 01:16:46 AM  
As God is my witness, I thought stowaways could fly.
 
2012-09-14 01:17:57 AM  

Confabulat: That's a special kind of dumb right there. What do these idiots think is going to happen when they are five miles high and the few oxygen molecules they're finding are pretty damn cold anyway?


When he was 17, my husband stowed away in the cargo hold of a plane at Newark. He said he didn't know what was worse--the freezing cold or lack of oxygen. When the plane landed about an hour later, he expected to tumble onto the tarmac and hopefully have enough strength to avoid getting caught. However, the doors never opened and the plane took off again about an hour later and he was freezing & suffocating all over again. It landed within an hour and the doors finally opened. He DID manage to leave undetected, only to find that he was back in Newark & had stowed away on a People's Express flight to Boston & back.

I guess the moral of the story is that when you finally get enough nerve to stow away on a plane, you don't consider your hiding spot is going to be unpressurized & unheated.
 
2012-09-14 01:20:40 AM  

Apos: [3.bp.blogspot.com image 850x478]


Ha!
 
2012-09-14 01:21:36 AM  

AdolfOliverPanties: [lotacharm.angelfire.com image 542x317]


Yeah, that's what I was coming here for.

*goes to bed, happy as a clam*
 
2012-09-14 01:30:02 AM  

brigid_fitch: Confabulat: That's a special kind of dumb right there. What do these idiots think is going to happen when they are five miles high and the few oxygen molecules they're finding are pretty damn cold anyway?

When he was 17, my husband stowed away in the cargo hold of a plane at Newark. He said he didn't know what was worse--the freezing cold or lack of oxygen. When the plane landed about an hour later, he expected to tumble onto the tarmac and hopefully have enough strength to avoid getting caught. However, the doors never opened and the plane took off again about an hour later and he was freezing & suffocating all over again. It landed within an hour and the doors finally opened. He DID manage to leave undetected, only to find that he was back in Newark & had stowed away on a People's Express flight to Boston & back.

I guess the moral of the story is that when you finally get enough nerve to stow away on a plane, you don't consider your hiding spot is going to be unpressurized & unheated.


Huh. And I thought I did some stupid shiat at 17.
 
2012-09-14 03:26:37 AM  

Confabulat: brigid_fitch: Confabulat: That's a special kind of dumb right there. What do these idiots think is going to happen when they are five miles high and the few oxygen molecules they're finding are pretty damn cold anyway?

When he was 17, my husband stowed away in the cargo hold of a plane at Newark. He said he didn't know what was worse--the freezing cold or lack of oxygen. When the plane landed about an hour later, he expected to tumble onto the tarmac and hopefully have enough strength to avoid getting caught. However, the doors never opened and the plane took off again about an hour later and he was freezing & suffocating all over again. It landed within an hour and the doors finally opened. He DID manage to leave undetected, only to find that he was back in Newark & had stowed away on a People's Express flight to Boston & back.

I guess the moral of the story is that when you finally get enough nerve to stow away on a plane, you don't consider your hiding spot is going to be unpressurized & unheated.

Huh. And I thought I did some stupid shiat at 17.


Confabulat: brigid_fitch: Confabulat: That's a special kind of dumb right there. What do these idiots think is going to happen when they are five miles high and the few oxygen molecules they're finding are pretty damn cold anyway?

When he was 17, my husband stowed away in the cargo hold of a plane at Newark. He said he didn't know what was worse--the freezing cold or lack of oxygen. When the plane landed about an hour later, he expected to tumble onto the tarmac and hopefully have enough strength to avoid getting caught. However, the doors never opened and the plane took off again about an hour later and he was freezing & suffocating all over again. It landed within an hour and the doors finally opened. He DID manage to leave undetected, only to find that he was back in Newark & had stowed away on a People's Express flight to Boston & back.

I guess the moral of the story is that when you finally get enough nerve to stow away on a plane, you don't consider your hiding spot is going to be unpressurized & unheated.

Huh. And I thought I did believed some stupid shiat at 17.

 
2012-09-14 03:27:25 AM  
My bad for the double post. Let me make up for it with a double post.
 
2012-09-14 03:29:59 AM  
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I bet stowaways are less common than meteors.
 
2012-09-14 03:30:53 AM  
Well just be glad it wasn't the engine, otherwise the entire space-time continuum is doomed.

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2012-09-14 03:35:12 AM  

PARA BAILAR LA BAMBA

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2012-09-14 03:48:31 AM  
Don't disturb my friend... he's dead-tired.
 
2012-09-14 03:51:22 AM  
96 individuals around the world who have tried to travel in plane wheel wells since 1947. The incidents happened on 85 flights.

Of these, more than three-quarters have proved fatal.


Gotta realize, that one-quarter who survived only represents the ones who got caught - surely many more survivors made a clean getaway.
 
2012-09-14 03:53:34 AM  
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2012-09-14 03:54:53 AM  
And yet so many people think it's OK to stuff their pets down in the cargo areas.... poor things...
 
2012-09-14 03:55:45 AM  

rdyb: 96 individuals around the world who have tried to travel in plane wheel wells since 1947. The incidents happened on 85 flights.

Of these, more than three-quarters have proved fatal.

Gotta realize, that one-quarter who survived only represents the ones who got caught - surely many more survivors made a clean getaway.


Perhaps but it is the wheel well after all... even worse than the cargo areas...
 
2012-09-14 04:04:38 AM  
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I made a sign...
 
2012-09-14 04:07:35 AM  

Enigmamf: And yet so many people think it's OK to stuff their pets down in the cargo areas.... poor things...


cargo holds are not wheel wells.
 
2012-09-14 04:40:31 AM  

Enigmamf: And yet so many people think it's OK to stuff their pets down in the cargo areas.... poor things...


Because it is OK. When animals are in cargo, the cargo area is pressurized and heated.

If you're the same dumbass who repeatedly posted this idiocy in a similar thread a few months ago, then it's pointless to mention the facts, because you won't be interested. But I'm not sure you're that dumbass, so I'm giving you the benefit of the doubt.

Interesting ... people in undeveloped areas are ignorant of the dangers of wheel wells, and people in developed areas are ignorant of the safety of cargo holds. Huh.
 
2012-09-14 04:57:07 AM  
I wonder how these figures stack up with stowaways in other types of transport. Ships, for example, must be a better option in every respect than aircraft -- easier to infiltrate, safer, more comfortable, and easier to get off undetected. I wonder how many people are snagged off container ships and freight trains and what their mortality rate is.
 
2012-09-14 05:02:09 AM  
Some people will do anything to avoid the TSA, and it's a reasonable response.
 
2012-09-14 05:06:24 AM  
As it happens, was just discussing this a few weeks ago with my dad, who's retired from the airline industry. (Ground-based managerial, but worked airside.)

He reckoned a ground engineer talked him through it once, and told him there's basically no one safe hand or foothold as the gear goes up. You have to keep changing your grip and position just to avoid getting crushed. I'm sure that conversation was specific to one aircraft type, and some have room to get yourself out of the way beforehand, but even just that thought would be enough to stop me--even without all the other near-certainties of death involved.

The whole conversation was sparked by these videos, which give you an idea how terrifying it would be once you knew you were committed to your decision, and the realization sank in that you'd made a really, REALLY bad decision:

http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=nHMApohrMmg (747 gear, forward view, pops)

http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=6Du513WwUmg (747 gear, rearward view, pops)

/yes, whomever is going around strapping GoPros to aircraft undercarriage without approval deserves to be fired, and probably already has been
 
2012-09-14 05:07:49 AM  

brigid_fitch: Confabulat: That's a special kind of dumb right there. What do these idiots think is going to happen when they are five miles high and the few oxygen molecules they're finding are pretty damn cold anyway?

When he was 17, my husband stowed away in the cargo hold of a plane at Newark. He said he didn't know what was worse--the freezing cold or lack of oxygen. When the plane landed about an hour later, he expected to tumble onto the tarmac and hopefully have enough strength to avoid getting caught. However, the doors never opened and the plane took off again about an hour later and he was freezing & suffocating all over again. It landed within an hour and the doors finally opened. He DID manage to leave undetected, only to find that he was back in Newark & had stowed away on a People's Express flight to Boston & back.

I guess the moral of the story is that when you finally get enough nerve to stow away on a plane, you don't consider your hiding spot is going to be unpressurized & unheated.


No, he didn't.

/god, some people are gullible
 
2012-09-14 05:13:33 AM  

gweilo8888: brigid_fitch: Confabulat: That's a special kind of dumb right there. What do these idiots think is going to happen when they are five miles high and the few oxygen molecules they're finding are pretty damn cold anyway?

When he was 17, my husband stowed away in the cargo hold of a plane at Newark. He said he didn't know what was worse--the freezing cold or lack of oxygen. When the plane landed about an hour later, he expected to tumble onto the tarmac and hopefully have enough strength to avoid getting caught. However, the doors never opened and the plane took off again about an hour later and he was freezing & suffocating all over again. It landed within an hour and the doors finally opened. He DID manage to leave undetected, only to find that he was back in Newark & had stowed away on a People's Express flight to Boston & back.

I guess the moral of the story is that when you finally get enough nerve to stow away on a plane, you don't consider your hiding spot is going to be unpressurized & unheated.

No, he didn't.

/god, some people are gullible


No kidding. I wonder what other lies he tells her.
 
2012-09-14 05:23:57 AM  

MadAzza: Enigmamf: And yet so many people think it's OK to stuff their pets down in the cargo areas.... poor things...

Because it is OK. When animals are in cargo, the cargo area is pressurized and heated.

If you're the same dumbass who repeatedly posted this idiocy in a similar thread a few months ago, then it's pointless to mention the facts, because you won't be interested. But I'm not sure you're that dumbass, so I'm giving you the benefit of the doubt.

Interesting ... people in undeveloped areas are ignorant of the dangers of wheel wells, and people in developed areas are ignorant of the safety of cargo holds. Huh.


No, that wasnt me in the previous thread, but I have read lots of stories about animal deaths on planes - someone forgets to tell the crew, or the temperature controls are off while the plane sits on the Tarmac, or really even with temperature controls, temp swings are described as large and physically stressful for the pet. I couldn't find statistics for how many pets fly, but something like 35 died last year.
 
2012-09-14 05:27:05 AM  
As for the man who fell to earth... police are still awaiting the results of his post-mortem.

images.alibi.com 

I'm guessing the findings will be, "not human in nature".
 
2012-09-14 05:27:37 AM  

rdyb: 96 individuals around the world who have tried to travel in plane wheel wells since 1947. The incidents happened on 85 flights.

Of these, more than three-quarters have proved fatal.

Gotta realize, that one-quarter who survived only represents the ones who got caught - surely many more survivors made a clean getaway.


Unlikely - there is rarely any point to do it on short haul flights where it might actually be survivable, on longer flights you will at least be unconcious or barely able to move by the end, and if you aren't caught then by not going immediately to a hospital for hypothermia and the injuries to your lungs means survival chances would be near zero.
 
2012-09-14 05:45:07 AM  
How often do plane stowaways fall from the sky?

Once?
 
2012-09-14 05:52:33 AM  
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2012-09-14 06:27:11 AM  
Maybe the FAA should require seat belts on airplane wheels.
 
2012-09-14 06:52:25 AM  
 
2012-09-14 07:36:06 AM  

kokomo61: What is happening around here today? Are gringos falling from the sky? 

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*shakes tiny fist*
 
2012-09-14 07:48:01 AM  
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2012-09-14 07:50:54 AM  
"He must have come down pretty much vertically to miss the parked cars,"...gravity is a wondrous thing.
 
2012-09-14 08:19:23 AM  
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2012-09-14 09:56:54 AM  

Confabulat: That's a special kind of dumb right there. What do these idiots think is going to happen when they are five miles high and the few oxygen molecules they're finding are pretty damn cold anyway?


Colonize it?
 
2012-09-14 12:27:23 PM  

Confabulat: That's a special kind of dumb right there. What do these idiots think is going to happen when they are five miles high and the few oxygen molecules they're finding are pretty damn cold anyway?


I don't think it's dumb, but rather ignorant. They don't know the risk they are taking. Conditions in the stratosphere are not something a poor person in the third world is going to know much about.
 
2012-09-14 03:36:23 PM  
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