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2012-09-13 11:45:17 PM  
littlegreenfootballs.com
 
2012-09-13 11:45:37 PM  
oh look, misogynist Farkers insulted by a feminist joke. Boo hoo, did somebody hurt your fragile male egos?

"mansplaining" means "a man being condescending to a woman because he's a man and she's a woman." And furthermore if she thinks what he's saying is nonsensical or patently unfair, in addition to being condescending, that is more proof that he needs to "mansplain" to her silly women brainz until she accepts his superiority without question.

It's an in-joke on feminist blogs, get over it.

It does happen in real life though, This summer I had the misfortune to accidentally overhear a couple of guys mansplaining to a housewife about how the Democrats wanted to take everybody's guns because of the Batman shooting. They talked down to her like she was a 10 year old kid.
 
2012-09-13 11:46:29 PM  
This is definition of mansplaining that I see on forums I visit.

Mansplaining, or downsplaining, is when a person who has privilege attempts to "explain" to a Marginalized Person (tm) that they are wrong in their complaints about being marginalized. Originally a term used by a man talking down to a woman, it can be any person with privilege dismissing the experiences of the Marginalized Person (tm) because they don't personally experience them, and explaining in the most patronizing way possible how they are wrong.

I prefer the general term downsplaining, as it can be applied to multiple cases.

Example:

MeanJean: "I don't like how the media demands physical perfection and unrealistic thinness...'

Mansplainer: "But MeanJean, don't you know there is an obesity epidemic?! As a nutritional science major, I can tell you that blah blah blah blah..."

Person of Color: "Law enforcement hassles me because of my skin color."

Racesplainer: "Its got nothng to do with race! I got ticketed by a cop when I wasn't doing a mile about fifty! Cops hassle white people too!"

Ed cetera, ad nauseum.

/by the way, I've seen both of those things happen in real life
 
2012-09-13 11:46:58 PM  
I'll never understand why some small group of feminists seem bound and determined to make themselves sound ridiculous by inventing terms like "mansplaining." It'd be like a politician telling people that a certain activity an opponent engages in is "poopy-tooting" and then expecting to be taken seriously.

No matter how good a cause is, there always has to be some little part of it that tries to turn it into a high school clique full of emotionally stunted morons. I do not understand that. Why aren't more feminists telling these people to shut the fark up?
 
2012-09-13 11:47:50 PM  

thomps: aw that article was adorable, good for you. have your husband show you how to print it out so you can scrapbook it!


Oktoberfest nearly hit the hooters waitress. Kudos.
 
2012-09-13 11:48:10 PM  

Rusty Shackleford: Soundtrack for this thread. You're welcome, babe. *Winks, makes pointy gun gesture*


That's some really bad colorization or he is really a clay faced creepy guy. .
 
2012-09-13 11:50:04 PM  

telaran: Why aren't more feminists telling these people to shut the fark up?


The same reason the GOP votes in a single block.
 
2012-09-13 11:52:58 PM  
Anyone who uses words like "manscaping", "mansplaining" or "mankini" needs to have their dick ripped off and handed to them.
 
2012-09-13 11:53:00 PM  

Eustacia Vye: doglover: Patronizing. The term is patronizing.

1. It's easier to say.
2. It's a real thing.

Yes and yes. I hate neologisms and "clever" portmanteaus.


This.
 
2012-09-13 11:54:03 PM  
I was at the break area the other day and looked at the communal cork board and saw an advertisement for a "Spa-tabulous" birthday" that could be arranged by contacting the telephone number listed. This was apparently a combination of some mobile spa treatments and the "word" "fantabulous". Which is itself a conjunction of "fabulous" and "fantastic". I think. But when you form "Spa-tabulous" we enter into a danger zone of abbreviation. All that is left of the word "fantastic" is the letter 't'. Furthermore, without that hyphen the real meaning is observed to be as something to do with "Spat". Even with this negative analysis it seems that 'mansplaining' is about as poetic of a combination of words as referring to Nickelback as poets.
 
2012-09-13 11:55:06 PM  
Mansplaining by 'Hugo Schwyzer' mansplaining about mansplaining to explain mansplaining for mansplaining by mansplaining about mansplaining.

He's probubly ghey or has an agenda in which males get in the way because men can reason and have an uncanny ability to see through bullsh+t.

Reminds me a lot of the the 'metrosexual' word phenomenon which took hold around 2002/3. Almost overnight, a well dressed man was unconfortably connected to homosexuality.
 
2012-09-13 11:55:25 PM  

Lsherm: I didn't realize Hugo was a female name. This was clearly written by someone who has never been asked to load the dishwasher "the right way."


I'm a man, and I'm the one that has to explain the right way to load the dishwasher, so I'm getting a kick.
 
2012-09-13 11:55:39 PM  

fluffy2097: styckx: I am clearly off my medication and someone should probably see to that.

ಠ_ಠ


He has fancy pants and plans to match.
 
2012-09-13 11:56:34 PM  

Egalitarian: "mansplaining" means


You just lost the game there, bub.
 
2012-09-13 11:57:19 PM  
This has to be the absolute worst word ever created.

Worse than Manscaping and Mancation combined, and that says a lot.
 
2012-09-13 11:57:44 PM  
In our family, we call that 'Situational Expertise,' it's a form of humor and a sport, and both genders are expert.

Can make holiday dinners hilarious.
 
2012-09-13 11:58:33 PM  

telaran: I'll never understand why some small group of feminists seem bound and determined to make themselves sound ridiculous by inventing terms like "mansplaining." It'd be like a politician telling people that a certain activity an opponent engages in is "poopy-tooting" and then expecting to be taken seriously.

No matter how good a cause is, there always has to be some little part of it that tries to turn it into a high school clique full of emotionally stunted morons. I do not understand that. Why aren't more feminists telling these people to shut the fark up?


As a feminist friend of mine has (regular) explained to me, a feminist's greatest weakness is other feminists.

Seriously, they don't seem to agree on much.
 
2012-09-13 11:59:51 PM  

Egalitarian:
It does happen in real life though...


Yes, it does. All the friggin' time.

\too annoyed to say much more about it
 
2012-09-14 12:00:17 AM  

ZipSplat: This annoying bullshiat has been popping up in the atheist/skeptical community lately as well. Apparently "feminism" and "social justice" mean "scapegoating white 'cisgendered' males for one's personal inadequacies and creating gender-specific terms (like 'mansplaining') for generic human traits".


That's just wrong. Utterly incorrect.
 
2012-09-14 12:02:16 AM  
I don't understand whats going on in this thread. I wish some woman would coontsplain it to me.
 
2012-09-14 12:03:50 AM  
Hugo.

"Hugo get me sandwich and I'll sit here and finish watching the game."

Hugo isn't a woman's name, it's the start of the sentence.
 
2012-09-14 12:05:20 AM  
Sammich!

OLOLOLOL!~!~!@!~@!~
 
2012-09-14 12:05:25 AM  

MeanJean:
Ed cetera, ad nauseum.

/by the way, I've seen both of those things happen in real life


Applying that class dynamic to it, instead of just using the words we already have for this behavior, seems to make it much more likely to be used in a fallacious context. In feminism and Atheism Plus conversations I've been in this stuff ends up being wielded like a floppy-handled battle axe, a quick way for someone to fallaciously swat down comments by dissenters. It's got that twinge of Orwellian redefinition to it that allows a group to encourage misunderstanding and insulate delusion.
 
2012-09-14 12:05:47 AM  

Beerguy: [theoneshewants.com image 544x572] 

Written and Narrated by my buddy Marlon (the guy who played "Rufus" on Entourage).

Free audio sample here Link


LOL the audio book narration sounds like Fallout's Three Dog, just kinda holding it back a bit.
 
2012-09-14 12:06:25 AM  
Wasn't that just five tips for being a decent human being, independent of your gender or the gender of the person with whom you're conversing?
 
2012-09-14 12:06:48 AM  

FishyFred: ZipSplat: This annoying bullshiat has been popping up in the atheist/skeptical community lately as well. Apparently "feminism" and "social justice" mean "scapegoating white 'cisgendered' males for one's personal inadequacies and creating gender-specific terms (like 'mansplaining') for generic human traits".

That's just wrong. Utterly incorrect.


Well, see, that's why we have dialog. So you can weigh in with more than a denial.
 
2012-09-14 12:07:20 AM  

thomps: Spoon over Marin: feminism thread?

this being fark, i'm going to go with misogyny thread.


Yeah. Saw the thread, tried to run away quickly but couldn't resist skimming.

Maybe not quite as bad as I expected but bad enough that I need to leave for the sake of my blood pressure. Definitely a misogyny fest.

/most Fark threads about anything relating to women are full of great "mansplaining" examples
 
2012-09-14 12:08:25 AM  

FishyFred: Apos: What an asinine synonym for male patronization.

I can see from this thread that it really struck a nerve.


www.lucidipedia.com

I'm enjoying all the men mansplaining "mansplaining" to us, personally. I'm sure Alanis would approve.
 
2012-09-14 12:08:27 AM  
Everything that the author is pissing and moaning about, women are guilty of, too.

/If you explain to a woman that you'd like to know what book she's reading, then you're mansplaining to such a violent degree that you deserve instant castration.
 
2012-09-14 12:08:43 AM  

ZipSplat: This annoying bullshiat has been popping up in the atheist/skeptical community lately as well. Apparently "feminism" and "social justice" mean "scapegoating white 'cisgendered' males for one's personal inadequacies and creating gender-specific terms (like 'mansplaining') for generic human traits".

It's f*cking dumb and counterproductive. Reading the nascent Atheism Plus forums is an awful experience.


You sound male.
 
2012-09-14 12:09:08 AM  
So what do they call this when a woman does it to another woman?
 
2012-09-14 12:09:27 AM  

WhyteRaven74:


I'm favoriting you for this.
 
2012-09-14 12:10:08 AM  

doloresonthedottedline: You sound male.


Gender scapegoating. Who says biatches can't do it too?
 
2012-09-14 12:10:32 AM  

ZipSplat: This annoying bullshiat has been popping up in the atheist/skeptical community lately as well. Apparently "feminism" and "social justice" mean "scapegoating white 'cisgendered' males for one's personal inadequacies and creating gender-specific terms (like 'mansplaining') for generic human traits".

It's f*cking dumb and counterproductive. Reading the nascent Atheism Plus forums is an awful experience.


Atheism Plus? What the hell is that supposed to be?

The last thing Atheism needs is another group or groups telling people that disbelief in a god means something other than just that or trying to associate some kind of morality or immorality with it.
 
2012-09-14 12:11:08 AM  

debug: So what do they call this when a woman does it to another woman?


Being a biatch.
 
2012-09-14 12:12:01 AM  

doloresonthedottedline: ZipSplat: This annoying bullshiat has been popping up in the atheist/skeptical community lately as well. Apparently "feminism" and "social justice" mean "scapegoating white 'cisgendered' males for one's personal inadequacies and creating gender-specific terms (like 'mansplaining') for generic human traits".

It's f*cking dumb and counterproductive. Reading the nascent Atheism Plus forums is an awful experience.

You sound male.


You sound desperate for attention
 
2012-09-14 12:12:48 AM  

debug: So what do they call this when a woman does it to another woman?


Gossip.
 
2012-09-14 12:13:08 AM  

telaran: Atheism Plus? What the hell is that supposed to be?

The last thing Atheism needs is another group or groups telling people that disbelief in a god means something other than just that or trying to associate some kind of morality or immorality with it.


It's a really obnoxious movement of people who are atheists, but into "social justice". People have pointed out that we already have that - it's called secular humanism. But from what I can gather these people don't like secular humanism because it's not whiny enough, and too much of its intellectual leadership is composed of old white men.

It sounds like an ad campaign for a diet soft drink line.
 
2012-09-14 12:13:38 AM  

moto-geek: debug: So what do they call this when a woman does it to another woman?

Gossip.


Or better, Lesbian!
 
2012-09-14 12:15:44 AM  
"mansplaining is the "intersection between overconfidence and cluelessness where some portion of (the male) gender gets stuck.""

Funny change the "male" to "female" and Id call it "feminism". Id point out everything else thats wrong and just a flat out lie about the article but Im sure someone like the author would come along and tell me why Im wrong because I have a penis.
 
2012-09-14 12:15:53 AM  

ZipSplat: This annoying bullshiat has been popping up in the atheist/skeptical community lately as well. Apparently "feminism" and "social justice" mean "scapegoating white 'cisgendered' males for one's personal inadequacies and creating gender-specific terms (like 'mansplaining') for generic human traits".

It's f*cking dumb and counterproductive. Reading the nascent Atheism Plus forums is an awful experience.


Indeed.

Even asking questions on those boards is enough to get banned.

But it's great if you want to learn about how white men are responsible for things that happened before they were born.
 
2012-09-14 12:17:43 AM  
Oh great, it's Hugo Schwyzer. A guy who may or may not have duped some chump into raising his kid. EABOD, Hugo.
 
2012-09-14 12:18:32 AM  

JNowe: Oh great, it's Hugo Schwyzer. A guy who may or may not have duped some chump into raising his kid. EABOD, Hugo.


That was supposed to have a link.

http://goodmenproject.com/featured-content/i-may-have-a-son-but-ill-n e ver-know-for-sure/
 
2012-09-14 12:18:42 AM  

Egalitarian: oh look, misogynist Farkers insulted by a feminist joke. Boo hoo, did somebody hurt your fragile male egos?

"mansplaining" means "a man being condescending to a woman because he's a man and she's a woman." And furthermore if she thinks what he's saying is nonsensical or patently unfair, in addition to being condescending, that is more proof that he needs to "mansplain" to her silly women brainz until she accepts his superiority without question.

It's an in-joke on feminist blogs, get over it.

It does happen in real life though, This summer I had the misfortune to accidentally overhear a couple of guys mansplaining to a housewife about how the Democrats wanted to take everybody's guns because of the Batman shooting. They talked down to her like she was a 10 year old kid.


I don't know if your example would constitute "mansplaining" as it is so common amongst all kinds of people when talking about politics.

MeanJean: This is definition of mansplaining that I see on forums I visit.

Mansplaining, or downsplaining, is when a person who has privilege attempts to "explain" to a Marginalized Person (tm) that they are wrong in their complaints about being marginalized. Originally a term used by a man talking down to a woman, it can be any person with privilege dismissing the experiences of the Marginalized Person (tm) because they don't personally experience them, and explaining in the most patronizing way possible how they are wrong.

I prefer the general term downsplaining, as it can be applied to multiple cases.

Example:

MeanJean: "I don't like how the media demands physical perfection and unrealistic thinness...'

Mansplainer: "But MeanJean, don't you know there is an obesity epidemic?! As a nutritional science major, I can tell you that blah blah blah blah..."

Person of Color: "Law enforcement hassles me because of my skin color."

Racesplainer: "Its got nothng to do with race! I got ticketed by a cop when I wasn't doing a mile about fifty! Cops hassle white people too!"

Ed cetera, ad nauseum.

/by the way, I've seen both of those things happen in real life


These things sound much like what I'm getting from the term. But seriously, do we need new terms for patronizing condescension just to specify that it involves people of different levels of privilege?
 
2012-09-14 12:19:52 AM  
I just asked my girlfriend what she thought of mansplaining.

She called it retarded, and probably made up by a very angry lesbian.

/That's why she's a keeper
 
2012-09-14 12:20:42 AM  
Look Honey, If I actually did hear you, you have TWO choices.

Tell me What to do, or How to do IT! Not BOTH!
 
2012-09-14 12:21:41 AM  

Mr. Carpenter: doloresonthedottedline: ZipSplat: This annoying bullshiat has been popping up in the atheist/skeptical community lately as well. Apparently "feminism" and "social justice" mean "scapegoating white 'cisgendered' males for one's personal inadequacies and creating gender-specific terms (like 'mansplaining') for generic human traits".

It's f*cking dumb and counterproductive. Reading the nascent Atheism Plus forums is an awful experience.

You sound male.

You sound desperate for attention


Incredibly antisocial, actually. In case the completely bare profile didn't make that clear.

Socialist, radical feminist, atheist, probably a few more hated ists--and I've had people try and tell me all the ways I'm wrong (and have had full, in-depth discussions defending my positions--with references, facts, and all that jazz) so many times I just sit back and enjoy the good trolls, block the bad ones, and enjoy the good jokes. Here and in real life.
 
2012-09-14 12:22:11 AM  

pxlboy: Eustacia Vye: doglover: Patronizing. The term is patronizing.

1. It's easier to say.
2. It's a real thing.

Yes and yes. I hate neologisms and "clever" portmanteaus.

This.


I think that's more a matter of taste and style. I rather enjoy neologisms and I certainly like clever portmanteaus. But I agree that this is particular word is not clever.
 
2012-09-14 12:24:25 AM  

rustypouch: Indeed.

Even asking questions on those boards is enough to get banned.

But it's great if you want to learn about how white men are responsible for things that happened before they were born.


Yeah, they have a "safe space" policy. I thought "safe space" just meant that they had zero tolerance for insults or harassment. No, a "safe space" literally means that dissenting opinions are not allowed - ostensibly because they have "no where else to go" to say such stupid things without push back. So it is an actual zero dissent policy. Great way to start an intellectual movement, I'm sure that won't backfire into a coerced groupthink and people who can't relate to the outside world.

The trend I noticed was that they seem to spin all of their own inadequacies, or discomforts, as the result of the "privilege" of someone else. The most farking ridiculous thing I saw was a blog post linked that told me that speaking in a deep voice around women is "exercising my privilege" and I shouldn't do it because it shuts down the willingness of women around me to participate in discussion.
What the fark??? That is not a problem of my "privilege". That is Social Anxiety Disorder.
 
2012-09-14 12:24:46 AM  
Hugo Schwyzer is a feminist professor that attempted to kill his girlfriend in a murder suicide

i.imgur.com

Hugo Schwyzer is a feminist professor that slept with four students on a bus tour THAT HE WAS THE DELEGATED CHAPERONE OF.
i.imgur.com

He actually has a much longer history of sleeping with his students than just that bus trip.

i.imgur.com


Hugo Schwyzer is a feminist professor that likely had a child with another woman, has tried to keep the woman's husband in the dark for years about this, while the woman's husband supports the child, and then Hugo defends keeping fathers in the dark about their kids.

i.imgur.com
Link

If anyone wants to dig into that, it becomes clear that for years Hugo has been involved in the continuing deception of Ted so that Hugo could live his life free of child support, parenting duties, and able to sleep with his students.

Hugo Schwyzer is a feminist professor whose job is 100% mansplaining to female students about their oppression

i.imgur.com

So yeah, mansplaining, Hugo Schwyzer is an expert at this.
 
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