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(Politico)   Like a Boss, Mitt Romney storms back in MI polls. Just kidding, down by 10 points now   (politico.com) divider line 215
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2012-09-13 07:23:48 PM

spongeboob: About your claim


Sadly I doubt you're going to be enlightening that particular guy. In fact, I'm pretty sure that guy isn't thinking. He seems to be relying entirely upon motivated reasoning. Anyone supporting Romney at this point has to... if they didn't they wouldn't be able to continue supporting him.
 
2012-09-13 07:35:01 PM

vernonFL: I think Romney went a little overboard when building his house in the DC suburbs.

I mean, I know he has a big family, but this is too much.


Surrender Dorothy
 
2012-09-13 07:54:36 PM

TIKIMAN87: Walker: Hmmmmmm why would he be losing in Michigan after he said GM should be left to die and then once saved it was thanks to him?

Hey... GM still owes the UkS taxpayer 20 billion. GM looses $89,000 on every volt sold and Obama endorsed. That company deserves to die. Obama is a failure and he will go down in history as one.

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4 out of 10

The mispelling/misuse of the word "loosing" was a nice touch and does an effective job reflecting the penning of a derper, so I awarded you some points for that. However it still felt rushed and could definitely could use some polish. 

On the retarded scale you're definitely in a wheelchair, but not retarded enough for seatbelt and headrest level
 
2012-09-13 08:01:18 PM

Gotfire: I was born in Connecticut and lived there until I was 5 years old. I've lived in Texas for 33 years. Does that mean Connecticut is considered my home state?

I hope it is.



Not according to the well known Texan Georgie boy.
 
2012-09-13 08:06:25 PM

JohnnyC: Gotfire: It's refreshing to see TX as blue.

I have caught wind of the idea that Romney might be just unlikable enough to turn Texas blue again. I wouldn't bank on that prediction, but I can see some merit in the idea.


In 2008, Obama lost Texas by only ~950,000 votes. Texas cities are growing fast and the people moving here are younger city people, more likely to be Democrats.

The projected population in 2016 an increase of more than 4 million from 2008. If half if them vote and 60% of them vote democrat, it's essentially a tie. Texas will be a swing state in 2016.

Also, ~25% of the population of Texas is Hispanic but the percentage of them that vote is fairly low. Someone wakes them up and gets them into the voting both then Texas is blue for sure.
 
2012-09-13 08:18:10 PM
The voter suppression laws are a sign of Republican desperation. They lose this election and it will be a long time until there's a republican president unless the party fundamentally changes. The people who buy what they're currently selling are dying off, there will be even fewer of them in 2016. They're not going to draw in yonger voters with their current "give money to the rich/ban birth control/hate the gays" emphasis.

The economy is improving, it will only be better in 2016. Everyone will be feeling and liking the benefits of the affordable care act, wanting to repeal it will be political suicide. What will the Republicans have to offer?

They're going to be sorry they called it Obamacare.
 
2012-09-13 08:28:19 PM

Phins: Also, ~25% of the population of Texas is Hispanic but the percentage of them that vote is fairly low. Someone wakes them up and gets them into the voting both then Texas is blue for sure.


The cities that can turn blue, are already blue (or sliding back purple like Austin). Its a nice dream, but dont hold yer breath. The strangle hold that the GoP has on Texas due to redistricting is pretty iron clad, will be for decades.
 
2012-09-13 08:47:58 PM

Phins: ... They're going to be sorry they called it Obamacare.


Once all parts of OBAMACARE take place people will realize it isn't going to kill America. They will like what it does for them, their family, and their community. The polls will show it becoming more and more favorable. At that point I am willing to bet that the GOP will spend over $1 billion trying to re-brand it as "Republicare," or some such nonsense.

/OBAMACARE
//Thanks, GOP. We'll never forget who owns it now.
///OBAMACARE
 
2012-09-13 09:48:05 PM

Lando Lincoln:

Mitt Romney thinks that John Bolton is a good person to get advice from in regards to foreign policy matters.


I just needed to repeat that sentence in order to help myself believe it. How? How can anyone at all think that that useless lump of shiat is any good for anything? I just dont get it.
 
2012-09-14 12:52:29 AM

Cuthbert Allgood: Lando Lincoln: I'm going to my parent's house tonight. If my mother mentions it, then yeah, I'd say that it's impacted on the not-internet-savvy of America.

Keep us updated on what you find out.... I'm curious


Nope. She did not mention it. So I don't think it has impacted on the non-internet people.
 
2012-09-14 01:08:45 AM

Guntram Shatterhand: You think that's awesome, check out Stabenow's numbers. Obama's doing so well that now Debbie has a ten point lead on Hokestra. Romney is sucking so hard we might see appreciable gains in Congressional seats simply from Republicans giving up in disgust.


Good. Hoekstra's the kind of pimple that you want as far from sensitive information and power as you can possibly get. An addle-pated little sneer of a man born so aware of his failings as a full-fledged human being that he claws and scrabbles for every discarded bit of glory that he can find, following jackdaw like along behind these things he has to assume are men.
 
2012-09-14 01:33:13 AM

Lando Lincoln: Cuthbert Allgood: Lando Lincoln: I'm going to my parent's house tonight. If my mother mentions it, then yeah, I'd say that it's impacted on the not-internet-savvy of America.

Keep us updated on what you find out.... I'm curious

Nope. She did not mention it. So I don't think it has impacted on the non-internet people.


Thanks for updating. Did you point it out to her?
 
2012-09-14 02:30:46 AM

HeartBurnKid: Zafler: theorellior: Zafler: As a former Michigander, I'm glad to see that idiotic change to "Michiganian" still hasn't caught on.
Did't they vote on that in like 1980 or something? I was a kid in Toledo and remember when it was on the ballot.

I don't think so. About all I recall is that John Engler made the push to use "Michiganian" while he was governor, far more than the previous one did. Most people ignored him. I was born in '80 so I could be wrong.

So what do Michigan women call themselves? Michigeese?

/snark


I left in 1983 and it was still Michigander back then. Engler was after my time.
 
2012-09-14 12:19:28 PM

brianbankerus: coeyagi: brianbankerus: shastacola: torr5962: These polls are bullshiat. Who answers a landline anymore?

Does the poll say it used only landlines? I don't think polls do that anymore.

Some polls exclusively use landlines. Cell phones are under-represented in polling.

Just asking the question - don't at least some pollsters account for that by adjusting their polling data? I would think at least some do, but does anyone know?

Cell Phone users under-polled, could spell problems for Romney.


From the link you provided:"If you use a cell phone, you most likely are a Barack Obama supporter. A land line user? You probably support Mitt Romney. "
I read that as a "land Mine User."
 
2012-09-16 08:38:08 PM

CptnSpldng: brianbankerus: coeyagi: brianbankerus: shastacola: torr5962: These polls are bullshiat. Who answers a landline anymore?

Does the poll say it used only landlines? I don't think polls do that anymore.

Some polls exclusively use landlines. Cell phones are under-represented in polling.

Just asking the question - don't at least some pollsters account for that by adjusting their polling data? I would think at least some do, but does anyone know?

Cell Phone users under-polled, could spell problems for Romney.

From the link you provided:"If you use a cell phone, you most likely are a Barack Obama supporter. A land line user? You probably support Mitt Romney. "
I read that as a "land Mine User."


No. Land mine users are mostly for Ron Paul.
 
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