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(The Daily Dolt)   Donald Rumsfeld says embassy attacks are due to "perceived American weakness." Apparently, he's never heard of Google, which easily allows people to look up the number of embassy attacks under Bush/Rumsfeld   (thedailydolt.com) divider line 215
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2012-09-13 07:38:06 AM
He's heard of it. He just doesn't care.
 
2012-09-13 07:40:56 AM
Everyone knows Google has a liberal bias.
 
2012-09-13 08:02:14 AM
Yeah McCain was on Morning Joe today repeating the same line. Glad to see the GOP has its talking points lined up. Of course, McCain was unable to say anything about Romneys sheer stupidity from yesterday.
 
2012-09-13 08:15:04 AM
Oh no! They think we're weak?! We better boost our military spending and invade Libya, Syria, and Iran!
 
2012-09-13 08:35:38 AM
They're counting on the average mouthbreather to take Rumsfeld's words as gospel, just like they took "Dubya kept us safe from terror attacks"
 
2012-09-13 08:39:27 AM
I'm still likeing Runny for war crimes.
He needs to lay low and count his money and blessings, like W and Ashcroft and Cheney.
 
2012-09-13 08:46:57 AM

vudukungfu: I'm still likeing Runny for war crimes.


"I will shoot you in your face"
img.photobucket.com
 
2012-09-13 08:56:13 AM
They attacked under Bush because of our perceived strength. They was grasping at straws before the US forced them into a democracy. Unfortunately Mr. Bush didn't have time to get to all the countries that need it... and now Jethro T. O'Aqualung makes our military wear flowerdy panties and never offend anyone's religious feelings.
 
2012-09-13 09:03:05 AM
Has anyone quietly suggested yet that those that would benefit most from Obama looking soft on foreign policy are the same people who have been arguing for war with Iran?

Follow the money on this one, the hit on the embassy was pretty well organized, and there are state actors in the region who are pretty happy if they can goad the US into another war.

It will be very interesting if Obama / Clinton / Democrats can truly stand this test, I am rooting for them to do so, but this is looking very much like October Surprise type stuff, particularly if it keeps happening with more attacks.

The neocons didn't all just stop their crap because Obama won the convention presentations. They still want another war, and this attack would traditionally be something that would help them to get one. They think Obama's another Carter, and this plays right into that.
 
2012-09-13 09:04:50 AM
To clarify, do I think the neocons literally were the trigger men in Libya yesterday? No, they're smarter than that. But do I think they will benefit from the attack? In previous times yes, absolutely, neocons have benefitted from attacks on Americans advancing their cause of more war and more Israeli-centered foreign policy.
 
2012-09-13 09:12:58 AM
Rumsfeld couldn't conduct a war in the right country. I think I'll pass on giving his comments any further consideration.
 
2012-09-13 09:17:57 AM
"They" attacked us Libya.

So we should invade Iran right away.

What?

Isn't that how this works?

Get attacked by a small lunatic group of terrorists in one place and blow the crap out of and occupy a completely unrelated nation we're pissed at?

Yes...a brilliant plan. Worked so well for us in the past, let's try it again.
 
2012-09-13 09:38:45 AM
Actually, there were twelve terrorist attacks on U.S. diplomatic facilities abroad during George W. Bush's tenure - the most of any president in history - and eight of those occurred while Donald Rumsfeld was in office.

*golf clap*

I don't recall anyone in that mob of protesters carrying signs saying "We perceive you as weak".

Most of them were apparently mad about a deliberate piece of agit-prop being attributed to America.

/Donald Rumsfeld's total lack of credibility here is what some might call a "known known".
 
2012-09-13 09:42:40 AM
The man has been entirely discredited, he's an abject failure. This only means something to people on the far right.
 
2012-09-13 09:42:40 AM

Generation_D: but this is looking very much like October Surprise type stuff,


Indeed.
 
2012-09-13 09:43:04 AM
Hard to say. But it is definitely a sign that much of the Muslim world and the American Left does not believe in free speech.
 
2012-09-13 09:43:10 AM
DONAL PLS
 
2012-09-13 09:43:34 AM

Donald Rumsfeld just totally cut the line to board this flight. So add that to the list.

- Matt Duss (@mattduss) June 20, 2012
 
2012-09-13 09:45:16 AM
Or the terrorists want to create a rift between the fledgling government of Libya and the United States and idiots like Rumsfeld are obliging.
 
2012-09-13 09:45:46 AM
He is right they were just mad as hell at Bushco...
 
2012-09-13 09:46:06 AM

beta_plus: Hard to say. But it is definitely a sign that much of the Muslim world and the American Left does not believe in free speech.


Interesting. So, when the American Right (?) condemns things like flag burning, you would agree that they do not believe in free speech either.
 
2012-09-13 09:46:27 AM
So, he's justifying the attack on an American embassy?


Country First, indeed.
 
2012-09-13 09:46:46 AM
The fact that some people see this and want to turn it into a large conspiracy theory is disgusting and abominable.
 
2012-09-13 09:47:01 AM

beta_plus: Hard to say. But it is definitely a sign that much of the Muslim world and the American Left does not believe in free speech.


If lefties don't believe in free speech then how come they take so much pleasure in telling you to go EABODs and DIAF?

Answer me that, smart guy!
 
2012-09-13 09:47:29 AM
Hey Rummy, you go to war with the army that you have inherited from the last administration- you know, the one bogged down in two wars that might have upset a few people overseas?
 
2012-09-13 09:47:58 AM
Dear Mr. Rumsfeld,

www.occuworld.org

www.executedtoday.com

4.bp.blogspot.com

I really hope you get Robert McNamara as a roommate in hell.
 
2012-09-13 09:48:47 AM
Rumsfeld continues to use fear to push his political agenda. I wish there was a word for that.
 
2012-09-13 09:49:53 AM

Lost Thought 00: The fact that some people see this and want to turn it into a large conspiracy theory is disgusting and abominable.


There is some fishy stuff going on with the film that started it.

Not saying I buy into the "Neocons did this" theory, there are any number of groups that might perceive a benefit from these sorts of actions. But there is some real shadowy stuff about the production of that movie and then its sudden prominence in the minds of angry mobs in the middle east.
 
2012-09-13 09:50:11 AM
Wasn't it Sun Tzu that said something about your enemy underestimating you being a good thing? If we are not weak then wouldn't their perception of us as that be a good thing? I know I'm comparing a pagan Chinaman's outlook on war to the GOP's ideas of war, but more than a few people have given Sun Tzu a thumbs up through the centuries.

And if anything about American policy in terms of war and military makes us look weak in the eyes of the world, it would be the way America has waged war since WWII. We invade, kill people, lose troops, destroy things, spend a lot of money, rebuild an infrastructure we destroyed, then leave and things return to how they were for the most part. If America waged war like Rome, and the knowledge was out there that when we decided it was worth coming to your country to teach you a lesson that it would be a harsh lesson lasting generations. Getting invaded by America is like getting home renovations. It's kind of dusty and a pain in the ass for a bit but when they're finally done your shiat will be better than it was before.

And Rumsfeld can eat a box of it!
 
2012-09-13 09:50:34 AM

EyeballKid: So, he's justifying the attack on an American embassy?


No, he's justifying the use of dead diplomats as campaign props.
 
2012-09-13 09:50:57 AM
Oh, STFU you farking war criminal.

i28.photobucket.com

Link
 
2012-09-13 09:51:19 AM
People elected Obama to restore America's image in the world, even if it meant destroying our economy.

Well, economy is tanked and the world still hates us.
 
2012-09-13 09:51:53 AM
For Rumsfeld, Google is one of those unknowned knowns.

/I'm seriously thinking that the Republicans are actually throwing the election this cycle.
 
2012-09-13 09:53:17 AM

SlothB77: People elected Obama to restore America's image in the world, even if it meant destroying our economy.

Well, economy is tanked and the world still hates us.


And you're still ignorant.
 
2012-09-13 09:53:20 AM
The reason those attacks happen is because people at allowed to enter the building and ransack the place.

/but it happens under republicans too!!!
 
2012-09-13 09:53:52 AM

Skleenar: Lost Thought 00: The fact that some people see this and want to turn it into a large conspiracy theory is disgusting and abominable.

There is some fishy stuff going on with the film that started it.

Not saying I buy into the "Neocons did this" theory, there are any number of groups that might perceive a benefit from these sorts of actions. But there is some real shadowy stuff about the production of that movie and then its sudden prominence in the minds of angry mobs in the middle east.


Reports are coming out that a large percent of people in that film, cast and crew, had no idea what it was going to end up as and that much of the controversial stuff came in post production.

"We were duped!"
 
2012-09-13 09:54:46 AM

way south: The reason those attacks happen is because people at allowed to enter the building and ransack the place.


The attacks happened because of mangled sentences?
 
2012-09-13 09:54:49 AM
Well then I guess they must have thought we were really weak on September 11th 2001! Remind me who was in charge then?
 
2012-09-13 09:55:50 AM
Rumsfeld is a chicken hawk with obvious ties to the military industrial complex. His solution to every problem is more DoD spending.

/fark that man
 
2012-09-13 09:56:18 AM
Yes, by all means Mr. Rumsfeld - lets make sure that all the big figures in the oh-so-successful Bush Administration are up front and center stage now with less than two months to the election. I'm sure that will be a winning strategy for you.
 
2012-09-13 09:57:02 AM

Skleenar: Lost Thought 00: The fact that some people see this and want to turn it into a large conspiracy theory is disgusting and abominable.

There is some fishy stuff going on with the film that started it.

Not saying I buy into the "Neocons did this" theory, there are any number of groups that might perceive a benefit from these sorts of actions. But there is some real shadowy stuff about the production of that movie and then its sudden prominence in the minds of angry mobs in the middle east.


I will say to that what I say about every conspiracy theory - Absence of Evidence is not itself a form of evidence
 
2012-09-13 09:57:17 AM

Philip Francis Queeg: way south: The reason those attacks happen is because people at allowed to enter the building and ransack the place.

The attacks happened because of mangled sentences?


They overly defensively of their religion the whole thing.
 
2012-09-13 09:58:04 AM
Hey, what's Dick Cheney think of this? Has anyone asked Wolfowitz or Chertoff?

I know, let's dig up Brownie and get a quote from him, unless he's too busy staring longingly at Rafalca.
 
2012-09-13 09:58:10 AM

SlothB77: People elected Obama to restore America's image in the world, even if it meant destroying our economy.

Well, economy is tanked and the world still hates us.


1. The economy is not tanked
2. A mob in Libya or Yemen is not "the world"
 
2012-09-13 09:58:56 AM
republicans will not be bound by "facts" when a lie is much more effective.
 
2012-09-13 09:59:18 AM
Fuq'You Rumsfeld. You belong in War Crimes Trial with your Overlord Dick Cheney, and his puppets, GWBush, CONdi RIce and the rest of the NeoCON Cabal, many of whom are trying to call the foreign policy shots inside the Romney Camp.

BTW: Netanyahu (another NeoCON War Criminal) is going to deliver the "October Surprise" for the GOP by invading Iran, and then, when Obama waits to craft an appropriate response, the GOP will all be screaming(Sean Hannity and Company style) about how Obama is an appeaser and a traitor to America because he doesn't rush in to do the bidding for the Isreali RightWing.
 
2012-09-13 09:59:24 AM
What is the percieved weakness of the Obama administration concerning the Middle East, anybody know?
 
2012-09-13 10:00:16 AM

shastacola: What is the percieved weakness of the Obama administration concerning the Middle East, anybody know?


Our President is even darker than them!
 
2012-09-13 10:00:21 AM

shastacola: What is the percieved weakness of the Obama administration concerning the Middle East, anybody know?


Because they said so
 
2012-09-13 10:00:46 AM
Yes, America's percieved weakness.

We send armed drones by the sky-ful to kill paramilitary criminals, but they think we're weak. They can't keep a #2 terrorist employed/alive long enough to get his ID badge, but they think we're weak. We provided most of the manpower NATO used to dethrone their dug-in, 43-year-tenured dictator - which couldn't be done by Carter, Reagan, HW Bush, Clinton, and W Bush - but they think we're weak. America can have a new squad of Marines guarding the embassy - and two more warships in the region - within 24 hours of an attack, but they think we're weak.

Republican politicking - say whatever's convenient to the narrative, facts and logic be damned. You'll just say something else (perhaps even contradictory) tomorrow anyway.
 
2012-09-13 10:00:57 AM
Donnie, Donnie. You shook hands with Saddam Hussein, right?
Yeah, I thought so.
 
2012-09-13 10:01:00 AM
I can see why the rest of the world perceives us as weak. We have the biggest, most powerful military in the world, yet we almost NEVER use it. And just look how we treated bin Laden with kid gloves. Talk about letting someone off easy.
 
2012-09-13 10:01:25 AM
That's it guys. The clear path to success from Romney is to constantly have Bush administration failures act as his surrogates in the press.
 
2012-09-13 10:01:27 AM

DrD'isInfotainment: Fuq'You Rumsfeld. You belong in War Crimes Trial with your Overlord Dick Cheney, and his puppets, GWBush, CONdi RIce and the rest of the NeoCON Cabal, many of whom are trying to call the foreign policy shots inside the Romney Camp.

BTW: Netanyahu (another NeoCON War Criminal) is going to deliver the "October Surprise" for the GOP by invading Iran, and then, when Obama waits to craft an appropriate response, the GOP will all be screaming(Sean Hannity and Company style) about how Obama is an appeaser and a traitor to America because he doesn't rush in to do the bidding for the Isreali RightWing.


Boy I hope your wrong. I would not want to live in a world that works that way.
 
2012-09-13 10:02:06 AM

shastacola: What is the percieved weakness of the Obama administration concerning the Middle East, anybody know?


They can't work with honorable Middle East leaders such as Pervez Musharraf and Momar Qadaffi the way the previous administration did.
 
2012-09-13 10:02:19 AM

Dinki: Yeah McCain was on Morning Joe today repeating the same line. Glad to see the GOP has its talking points lined up. Of course, McCain was unable to say anything about Romneys sheer stupidity from yesterday.


Considering that 0bama did the same thing against McCain and the press said nothing maybe he thought it wasn't a big dealto the press
 
2012-09-13 10:03:30 AM

what_now: unless he's too busy staring longingly at Rafalca.


YOU LEAVE RAFALCA ALONE
 
2012-09-13 10:03:34 AM
Is this the same secretary of defense that sat at his desk, blissfully unaware of the attack on his country until a plane collided into the building he was sitting in? The same SOD that changed the rules so that only he could authorize military intercepts? The same one that hired people who didn't think of telling the guy in charge of our defenses that the country was under attack?

Go fark yourself you lying sack of shiat.


/takes a few days to let it go
 
2012-09-13 10:03:35 AM

shastacola: What is the percieved weakness of the Obama administration concerning the Middle East, anybody know?


Republicans want it to be true and so they've decided to start saying it until they have sufficiently convinced the world that America is weak.
 
2012-09-13 10:03:40 AM
Too bad TFA didn't point out that the attacks under Bush resulted in 60 deaths.
 
2012-09-13 10:03:57 AM
I love how liberals aren't even really trying anymore to pretend that the believe in free speech for those who they don't agree with. After their butt hurt over Chick-Fil-A day, they just see this as the perfect opportunity to pass laws to make sure people that they don't agree with don't have the right to speak freely out of "not offending muslims to protect national security".
 
2012-09-13 10:04:26 AM

what_now: Dear Mr. Rumsfeld,

[www.occuworld.org image 420x282]

[www.executedtoday.com image 213x300]

[4.bp.blogspot.com image 425x298]

I really hope you get Robert McNamara as a roommate in hell.


Pearl was a Red Shirt?

/Explains so much.
//Let's get Rummy one for Christmas Thursday
 
2012-09-13 10:04:34 AM

theknuckler_33: Too bad TFA didn't point out that the attacks under Bush resulted in 60 deaths.


When you're already acting like 3,000+ deaths didn't happen on your watch, what's another 60?
 
2012-09-13 10:04:43 AM

JusticeandIndependence: BTW: Netanyahu (another NeoCON War Criminal) is going to deliver the "October Surprise" for the GOP by invading Iran, and then, when Obama waits to craft an appropriate response, the GOP will all be screaming(Sean Hannity and Company style) about how Obama is an appeaser and a traitor to America because he doesn't rush in to do the bidding for the Isreali RightWing.

Boy I hope your wrong. I would not want to live in a world that works that way.


Don't worry. Israel is not crazy enough to launch a pre-emptive strike on Iran (their intelligence people have said that going it alone, without US help, would basically be suicide for the region), and according to a US military assessment released this morning, an invasion of Iran would be more costly in every sense than Iraq and Afghanistan COMBINED.

Never mind that if Netanyahu started massing the military, Knesset might actually call for a new coalition. Israelis don't want this war, even more than Americans don't want it.
 
2012-09-13 10:04:46 AM

rudemix: Getting invaded by America is like getting home renovations. It's kind of dusty and a pain in the ass for a bit but when they're finally done your shiat will be better than it was before.


I know, look at Iraq. Dusty. Kind of a pain in the ass. Sure isn't the sort of disruption that will affect generations..


/I hope my sarcasm is clear.
 
2012-09-13 10:05:22 AM

shastacola: What is the percieved weakness of the Obama administration concerning the Middle East, anybody know?


The President, who is supposed to be the Commander in Chief in the War on Terror, is named Obama. Which totally sounds almost exactly like Osama.

And the very first thing he did after stealing the election was go on an international apology tour for all of America's atrocities... like winning wars and kicking terrorist ass.

Then he personally fired Rush Limbaugh from ESPN and Hank Williams Jr from Monday Night Football.

Or something. o_O
 
2012-09-13 10:05:49 AM
I love this resurgence recently where Condi, Rumsfeld and Cheney suddenly think they have moral authority on foreign policy issues.
 
2012-09-13 10:05:53 AM

Jackson Herring: what_now: unless he's too busy staring longingly at Rafalca.

YOU LEAVE RAFALCA ALONE


Judging Rafalca's performance is the ONE THING Michael Brown is qualified to do. I have no idea why some smart ass at MSNBC didn't dig him up and get a quote during the Olympics.
 
2012-09-13 10:06:09 AM

beta_plus: I love how liberals aren't even really trying anymore to pretend that the believe in free speech for those who they don't agree with. After their butt hurt over Chick-Fil-A day, they just see this as the perfect opportunity to pass laws to make sure people that they don't agree with don't have the right to speak freely out of "not offending muslims to protect national security".


Your imagined liberal who doesn't believe in free speech is imagined.
 
2012-09-13 10:06:25 AM

Lost Thought 00: I will say to that what I say about every conspiracy theory - Absence of Evidence is not itself a form of evidence


Sure. But here there is evidence that there was a lot of deception involved in the making of that film.
 
2012-09-13 10:06:53 AM

shastacola: What is the percieved weakness of the Obama administration concerning the Middle East, anybody know?


The general Conservative philosophy, practiced for over 50 years, has been that the only way to get your opponents to negotiate in good faith is to threaten them with systematic genocide. This is typically done through the threat of nuclear obliteration. They are angry that Obama's starting point at the negotiating table is "We will annihilate you and the entire existence of human civilization if you do not give us all of our demand"

There is very little difference between the foreign policy of you average Conservative and that of say, North Korea, other than scale
 
2012-09-13 10:07:14 AM

shastacola: What is the percieved weakness of the Obama administration concerning the Middle East, anybody know?


The Middle East has not yet been turned into a glass parking lot, therefore Obama bad.
 
2012-09-13 10:07:24 AM
Rumsfeld couldn't give 2 S***s about Americans dying. I recall watching many a press conference he held during the Iraq war, where he would be making jokes and laughing behind the podium. He is is among the worst of them and makes me sick to my stomach.
 
2012-09-13 10:07:26 AM
Wow, I didn't know Donald Rumsfeld was psychic. Either that, or he's a complete asshole.

Probably the second one.

/definitely the second one.
 
2012-09-13 10:08:11 AM
Is this the thread where Obama is a weak-kneed apologist or a bloodthirsty warmonger who makes Alfred Nobel's ghost weep?
 
2012-09-13 10:08:23 AM

sprawl15: shastacola: What is the percieved weakness of the Obama administration concerning the Middle East, anybody know?

The Middle East has not yet been turned into a glass parking lot, therefore Obama bad.


Who would park there? Is there goods hopping nearby or a stadium?
 
2012-09-13 10:08:26 AM
The (f)right(ened) wingers sure are getting desperate pretty early this year. I am expecting a bumper crop of lulz and conservative tears come November.
 
2012-09-13 10:10:18 AM
Yeah....how about you just go and kill yourself, Rummy. Farking war criminal garbage.
 
2012-09-13 10:10:38 AM
Whenever I read comments like this from Donald Rumsfeld, it always gladdens my heart to know that I made the correct decision to add Rumsfeld to my "Neck-Snapping-On-The-Gallows-At-The-Hague" Fantasy team.
 
2012-09-13 10:11:36 AM

Fart_Machine: Is this the thread where Obama is a weak-kneed apologist or a bloodthirsty warmonger who makes Alfred Nobel's ghost weep?


Yes.
 
2012-09-13 10:12:40 AM

tenpoundsofcheese: 0bama did the same thing against McCain


Why do you lie?
 
2012-09-13 10:12:42 AM
And here we have THE fundamental problem the GOP is having in this election.

They just aren't used to lying to a population that can now fact check anything in seconds and share the results instantly.

They're just not used to getting their BS called out so rapidly. It used to be they could toss out a lie and enough people would believe it that it was worth telling. Even if they got busted later, the overall effect was a net gain. Now they get busted too fast.

It's like whenever they pull the pin on a lie grenade it just goes off in their hand. For some reason they keep believing the next one will go better.

/ And facts have a well-known liberal bias to boot.
 
2012-09-13 10:13:16 AM
If I were AlQaeda, I'd be doing anything I could to help Romney's chances this fall, and get that good 'ol Bush foreign policy team back in power - the neocons are the best thing that ever happened to AlQaeda.
 
2012-09-13 10:13:54 AM

Fart_Machine: Is this the thread where Obama is a weak-kneed apologist or a bloodthirsty warmonger who makes Alfred Nobel's ghost weep?


Yes!
 
2012-09-13 10:14:20 AM
That's rich coming from a guy who was instrumental in weakening America all over the world with a war of choice, based on lies.
 
2012-09-13 10:14:33 AM

beta_plus: I love how liberals aren't even really trying anymore to pretend that the believe in free speech for those who they don't agree with.


I love how you aren't even trying to address your evident hypocrisy. Or did you agree that when Republicans condemn flag burning they are also "against free speech"? Now, be sure to ignore this comment and make yet another comment about how the left hates free speech. Scoot, now!
 
2012-09-13 10:15:04 AM

beta_plus: I love how liberals aren't even really trying anymore to pretend that the believe in free speech for those who they don't agree with. After their butt hurt over Chick-Fil-A day, they just see this as the perfect opportunity to pass laws to make sure people that they don't agree with don't have the right to speak freely out of "not offending muslims to protect national security".


ewpopwatch.files.wordpress.com
What the liberals you are referring to might look like.
 
2012-09-13 10:15:19 AM
Apparently, one of the problems the GOP has with Obama's foriegn policy is the shameless towing of cows:



Donald J. Trump@realDonaldTrump

Weakness, cow towing and not standing firm is provocative. We are getting pushed around and robbed under this President.



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2012-09-13 10:16:00 AM
Hypocrisy? In my repub talking point? It's more likely than you might think.
 
2012-09-13 10:16:03 AM

sprawl15: Fart_Machine: Is this the thread where Obama is a weak-kneed apologist or a bloodthirsty warmonger who makes Alfred Nobel's ghost weep?

Yes.


Damnit, didn't hit refresh.

*hits self over head with rubber tennis shoe*
 
2012-09-13 10:17:09 AM
Do these people have the decency to realize that there are peoples lives in danger, so they should shelve the attacks on the president and either try to help do something to fix the situation or shut the hell up until the situation is resolved if they have nothing useful to contribute? But I guess that is just the Republican mentality. If these guys were in a building that was on fire instead of trying to figure out how to get out of the building they would be busy trying to find somebody to blame the fire on, then blaming the architect for designing a building that could catch fire so easily, and the fire department for not foreseeing the fire and preventing it from happening.
 
2012-09-13 10:17:37 AM
Donald Rumsfeld should be in prison.
 
2012-09-13 10:18:18 AM

shastacola: Apparently, one of the problems the GOP has with Obama's foriegn policy is the shameless towing of cows:



Donald J. Trump@realDonaldTrump

Weakness, cow towing and not standing firm is provocative. We are getting pushed around and robbed under this President.



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Shameless cow towing.
farm2.static.flickr.com
 
2012-09-13 10:18:19 AM

beta_plus: Hard to say. But it is definitely a sign that much of the Muslim world and the American Left does not believe in free speech.


Funny seeing Republicans and Al Qaeda cheering American deaths:

Face of the Republican party:

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2012-09-13 10:18:33 AM
Not intended to be a factual statement.
 
2012-09-13 10:18:43 AM

shastacola: Apparently, one of the problems the GOP has with Obama's foriegn policy is the shameless towing of cows:



Donald J. Trump@realDonaldTrump

Weakness, cow towing and not standing firm is provocative. We are getting pushed around and robbed under this President.



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img822.imageshack.us
 
2012-09-13 10:20:15 AM
It's all Hillary Clinton's fault:

Link
 
2012-09-13 10:20:17 AM

Skleenar: rudemix: Getting invaded by America is like getting home renovations. It's kind of dusty and a pain in the ass for a bit but when they're finally done your shiat will be better than it was before.

I know, look at Iraq. Dusty. Kind of a pain in the ass. Sure isn't the sort of disruption that will affect generations..


/I hope my sarcasm is clear.


It was clear and the point is valid in it's way.
 
2012-09-13 10:21:43 AM
To be fair, Rumsfeld is a gigantic piece of shiat. I mean, I wouldn't piss on him if he was on fire.
 
2012-09-13 10:23:00 AM

tony41454: It's all Hillary Clinton's fault:

Link



DeadBreitbart.com?

You sound tired
 
2012-09-13 10:23:50 AM

tony41454: It's all Hillary Clinton's fault:

Link


Breitbart? lol no one will click that.
 
2012-09-13 10:24:26 AM

Dinki: Yeah McCain was on Morning Joe today repeating the same line. Glad to see the GOP has its talking points lined up. Of course, McCain was unable to say anything about Romneys sheer stupidity from yesterday.


How exactly do they explain 9/11 then?

/republicans are masters, absolute masters of convincing people it's always the other guys' fault
 
2012-09-13 10:26:04 AM
The total number of military personnel needed to secure our embassies is on the order of several hundred thousand troops.

/I hope Rumsfeld dies of apoplexy when he reads that
 
2012-09-13 10:26:31 AM
The point is you have to look east, west, south, and north somewhat.
 
2012-09-13 10:26:38 AM
Rumsfeld shouldn't even be giving interviews period, let alone on the subject of foreign policy.
 
2012-09-13 10:26:54 AM
One of the great injustices of this world is the fact that Donald Rumsfeld is not incarcerated in Federal prison or detained in a mental institution. The idea that we should give his ramblings the slightest credence is laughable.
 
2012-09-13 10:27:13 AM
Since the Obama administrations' response appears to be "We had no idea that something like this could happen on 9/11," subby needs the who's google-fu skills are lacking.

/Seriously, Hillary Clinton was surprised that Libyans would attack an American after Americans helped liberate their country from a despotic leader. Just wow. Was she asleep for last 12 years?
 
2012-09-13 10:28:39 AM

TimonC346: Dinki: Yeah McCain was on Morning Joe today repeating the same line. Glad to see the GOP has its talking points lined up. Of course, McCain was unable to say anything about Romneys sheer stupidity from yesterday.

How exactly do they explain 9/11 then?

/republicans are masters, absolute masters of convincing people it's always the other guys' fault


Clinton. They claim 9/11 was due to Bill Clinton weakening the military and dropping the ball on Bin Laden, despite the fact that in 98, once it had been certified by the CIA and FBI the Bin Laden was responsible for the Cole attack and the African embassy bombings, he put together a task force to track him and made killing him a top priority.
 
2012-09-13 10:29:49 AM

beta_plus: I love how liberals aren't even really trying anymore to pretend that the believe in free speech for those who they don't agree with. After their butt hurt over Chick-Fil-A day, they just see this as the perfect opportunity to pass laws to make sure people that they don't agree with don't have the right to speak freely out of "not offending muslims to protect national security".


I know you're a troll, but this is the argument from some on the left. In what way are liberals restricting anyone's first amendment rights? The embassy condemned the film and said it doesn't represent American values, that's it. No one has called for jailing the producers, or shutting down the film, or stopping it from being distributed. No one is trying to stop anyone's right to produce whatever films they want, that doesn't mean that we have to pretend that this is now the national film of America.
 
2012-09-13 10:29:49 AM

Rann Xerox: Whenever I read comments like this from Donald Rumsfeld, it always gladdens my heart to know that I made the correct decision to add Rumsfeld to my "Neck-Snapping-On-The-Gallows-At-The-Hague" Fantasy team.


That's a bad pickup, unless you had to drop OBL (as he's on IR). Rummy's a 3rd receiver at best, so he's not gonna be targeted often. Yeah, he may get catches, so if you're in a PPR league it's not a bad play for the flex, but I'd try and get a John Yoo (Running Scared) or maybe a good defense (I hear good things about Russia).

You could also gamble on a rookie like that Romney guy - flashy, but he may not ever become an elite in this league. Also, do you really want a TE with chronic butthurt problems (think Antonio Gates' foot)?
 
2012-09-13 10:29:56 AM

Generation_D: Has anyone quietly suggested yet that those that would benefit most from Obama looking soft on foreign policy are the same people who have been arguing for war with Iran?

Follow the money on this one, the hit on the embassy was pretty well organized, and there are state actors in the region who are pretty happy if they can goad the US into another war.

It will be very interesting if Obama / Clinton / Democrats can truly stand this test, I am rooting for them to do so, but this is looking very much like October Surprise type stuff, particularly if it keeps happening with more attacks.

The neocons didn't all just stop their crap because Obama won the convention presentations. They still want another war, and this attack would traditionally be something that would help them to get one. They think Obama's another Carter, and this plays right into that.


Eisenhower's biography described his presidency as basically 8 years of constantly fending off Hawks in his cabinet, at the pentagon and in congress from starting World War III. It's what led to his famous, Military Industrial Complex speech. He knew exactly why they wanted to fight. I'd vote the hell out of a Zombie Ike if he ran today. He basically saved the world a dozen times from the war hawk Yeehaw mentality of post WWII 'murican exceptionalism.
 
2012-09-13 10:31:13 AM
images.sodahead.com
 
2012-09-13 10:31:57 AM

shastacola: Apparently, one of the problems the GOP has with Obama's foriegn policy is the shameless towing of cows:



Donald J. Trump@realDonaldTrump

Weakness, cow towing and not standing firm is provocative. We are getting pushed around and robbed under this President.



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2012-09-13 10:32:29 AM
Why is it that Republicans seem to think any rational person should believe they are accurate weather vanes of world opinion?

ESPECIALLY Republicans who were involved in the Iraq fiasco.
 
2012-09-13 10:32:43 AM

dehehn: I know you're a troll,


And yet you still felt the need to respond to it.
 
2012-09-13 10:33:22 AM

wejash: "They" attacked us Libya.

So we should invade Iran right away.

What?

Isn't that how this works?

Get attacked by a small lunatic group of terrorists in one place and blow the crap out of and occupy a completely unrelated nation we're pissed at?

Yes...a brilliant plan. Worked so well for us in the past, let's try it again.


And tax cuts for the rich. Never forget and never collect.
 
2012-09-13 10:34:57 AM

ltdanman44: [images.sodahead.com image 800x600]


I like to think facts to the Rape-ublican leadership are like so many good looking young men. You can get them to the men's room door but they're useless in the end.
 
2012-09-13 10:35:08 AM

beta_plus: I love how liberals aren't even really trying anymore to pretend that the believe in free speech for those who they don't agree with. After their butt hurt over Chick-Fil-A day, they just see this as the perfect opportunity to pass laws to make sure people that they don't agree with don't have the right to speak freely out of "not offending muslims to protect national security".


Yes there is free speech, but that doesn't mean that there are not consequences for your actions. By no means am I condoning the tendency of a percentage of the Muslim population that turns to violence when Mohamed is disrespected. Not only is this wrong but the mob rage that ensues is directed at random targets motivated by racism similar to how anyone that looked middle eastern were attacked/ostracized after 9/11. I'm just saying that if you walk up to a couple in a bar and flirt with a woman in front of her boyfriend, you can't be overly surprised when you get punched in the face.
 
2012-09-13 10:36:11 AM
There's nothing like a consummate professional Secretary of Defense, who makes policy decisions on facts grounded right here on Earth, based solely on the needs of the nation, and not some personal conviction.


wwwimage.cbsnews.com

And Rummy is nothing like that.
 
2012-09-13 10:38:27 AM

Dr Dreidel: Rann Xerox: Whenever I read comments like this from Donald Rumsfeld, it always gladdens my heart to know that I made the correct decision to add Rumsfeld to my "Neck-Snapping-On-The-Gallows-At-The-Hague" Fantasy team.

That's a bad pickup, unless you had to drop OBL (as he's on IR). Rummy's a 3rd receiver at best, so he's not gonna be targeted often. Yeah, he may get catches, so if you're in a PPR league it's not a bad play for the flex, but I'd try and get a John Yoo (Running Scared) or maybe a good defense (I hear good things about Russia).

You could also gamble on a rookie like that Romney guy - flashy, but he may not ever become an elite in this league. Also, do you really want a TE with chronic butthurt problems (think Antonio Gates' foot)?


[HEATH_LEDGER'S_JOKER_LAUGH.WAV]

Favorited.
 
2012-09-13 10:38:38 AM

tony41454: It's all Hillary Clinton's fault:

Link


Don't make me assign breitbart.com to 127.0.0.1 in my HOSTS file! Give some warning on that crap
 
2012-09-13 10:40:52 AM

tenpoundsofcheese: Dinki: Yeah McCain was on Morning Joe today repeating the same line. Glad to see the GOP has its talking points lined up. Of course, McCain was unable to say anything about Romneys sheer stupidity from yesterday.

Considering that 0bama did the same thing against McCain and the press said nothing maybe he thought it wasn't a big dealto the press


When McCain was president?
 
2012-09-13 10:45:55 AM

Skleenar: Why is it that Republicans seem to think any rational person should believe they are accurate weather vanes of world opinion?

ESPECIALLY Republicans who were involved in the Iraq fiasco.


I can only imagine it's because they surround themselves with like-minded sycophants who fawn over them and adore them and agree with 100% of what they say. Nobody in his party has the balls to tell Rumsfeld, "Wow, that's farking stupid and so are you, chum.". So when anyone else says it (or, EVERYONE else), they chalk it up to "liberal malaise" or "left wing stupidity" or "naivete".

Just glad I'm not an American when this guy speaks, because he would boil my blood. As it is, I'm amused at how completely out of touch this shiatstain is.
 
2012-09-13 10:45:57 AM
Love the "facts" - a Wiki article listing embassy attacks that omits 1979 Tehran? And the 9/11/12 attack in Cairo? Interesting.

Perhaps Wiki got it right, with the note at the top: [icon] This section requires expansion. (February 2012)
 
2012-09-13 10:46:33 AM
 
2012-09-13 10:48:18 AM

odinsposse: shastacola: What is the percieved weakness of the Obama administration concerning the Middle East, anybody know?

Republicans want it to be true and so they've decided to start saying it until they have sufficiently convinced the world that America is weak.


And of course if they succeed, more Americans will die serving their country - of course not them personally, so that works out fine - the more Americans they can help get killed while Obama is President, the better they think their chances of election are. 

/GOP - willing to throw the American Economy, American Diplomats and American soldiers under the bus if it makes Obama a one-term president
 
2012-09-13 10:49:29 AM
s3.amazonaws.com

You want me to pretend I'm sad? I thought you wanted your President to be honest.
You want the truth? Of course I'm happy.
Those people who died? Professional diplomats, working in Libya. Their job was to appease terrorists.
They got hoisted on their own petard. They reaped what they sowed.
And don't forget they were appointed by Obama. So they're Democrats.
And when a bunch of Democrat appeasers get killed by the terrorists they're trying to coddle,
And I can leverage it into firming up my foreign policy cred,
And get a nice little bump in the polls before the debates,
You bet I'm happy!
It's all I can do not to break out with the huge, shiat-eating grin I'm feeling inside.

SUCK IT, LIBS
 
2012-09-13 10:50:39 AM
It's cute that Rumsfeld thinks he still has any credibility when it comes to foreign policy isn't it?
 
2012-09-13 10:50:59 AM
Heh. "Perceived weakness'. Right, Donny. AlQaeda is doing this right now to help Obama get re-elected, because of his "perceived weakness". They are just terrified of having your old team (that they thrived and quintupled their size under) come back.
Right.
 
2012-09-13 10:51:44 AM

quatchi: tenpoundsofcheese: 0bama did the same thing against McCain

Why do you lie?


Because he must.
 
2012-09-13 10:51:50 AM

tony41454: It's all Hillary Clinton's fault:

Link


You guys really are that desperate to get the credibility back that you guys pissed away with Iraq and Bin Laden huh?
 
2012-09-13 10:53:26 AM

Mrtraveler01: tony41454: It's all Hillary Clinton's fault:

Link

You guys really are that desperate to get the credibility back that you guys pissed away with Iraq and Bin Laden huh?


They have plenty of cred with AlQaeda - the Necons were the best thing that ever happened to them.
 
2012-09-13 10:53:34 AM

Parthenogenetic: [s3.amazonaws.com image 550x308]

You want me to pretend I'm sad? I thought you wanted your President to be honest.
You want the truth? Of course I'm happy.
Those people who died? Professional diplomats, working in Libya. Their job was to appease terrorists.
They got hoisted on their own petard. They reaped what they sowed.
And don't forget they were appointed by Obama. So they're Democrats.
And when a bunch of Democrat appeasers get killed by the terrorists they're trying to coddle,
And I can leverage it into firming up my foreign policy cred,
And get a nice little bump in the polls before the debates,
You bet I'm happy!
It's all I can do not to break out with the huge, shiat-eating grin I'm feeling inside.

SUCK IT, LIBS


You realize that your comments are just as abhorrent as anything Terry Jones (Florida "pastor," not the Python) ever said, right?

Just keepin' the discussion grounded in some sort of reality.
 
2012-09-13 10:56:14 AM

Garet Garrett: Love the "facts" - a Wiki article listing embassy attacks that omits 1979 Tehran? And the 9/11/12 attack in Cairo? Interesting.

Perhaps Wiki got it right, with the note at the top: [icon] This section requires expansion. (February 2012)


It is interesting that the 1979 Tehran attack is not on the list. Perhaps it is a special case since it pretty much signaled the end of that diplomatic mission altogether. It is listed in another list here.

Of course, omitting an attack from 1979 on that list isn't any kind of logical counter-point to TFA and/or Rummy's hypocrisy.
 
2012-09-13 10:58:32 AM

Garet Garrett: Parthenogenetic: [s3.amazonaws.com image 550x308]

You want me to pretend I'm sad? I thought you wanted your President to be honest.
You want the truth? Of course I'm happy.
Those people who died? Professional diplomats, working in Libya. Their job was to appease terrorists.
They got hoisted on their own petard. They reaped what they sowed.
And don't forget they were appointed by Obama. So they're Democrats.
And when a bunch of Democrat appeasers get killed by the terrorists they're trying to coddle,
And I can leverage it into firming up my foreign policy cred,
And get a nice little bump in the polls before the debates,
You bet I'm happy!
It's all I can do not to break out with the huge, shiat-eating grin I'm feeling inside.

SUCK IT, LIBS

You realize that your comments are just as abhorrent as anything Terry Jones (Florida "pastor," not the Python) ever said, right?

Just keepin' the discussion grounded in some sort of reality.


Except Terry Jones means what he says and Parthenogenetic was engaging in satire. You know, with Mitt smirking and all.
 
2012-09-13 10:58:37 AM

Mrtraveler01: It's cute that Rumsfeld thinks he still has any credibility when it comes to foreign policy isn't it?


You'd think the GOP would have put this sage foreign policy philosopher on stage for the convention a couple of weeks ago... Curious that most of those masters of diplomacy and foreign policy from the Bush Administration were left off the roster.

'Course, a Romney Administration would have most of these geniuses in his staff, so I guess the oversight isn't that big of a deal.
 
2012-09-13 10:59:44 AM
I thought they attacked us because they hate our freedom? I guess they are mad because Obama has given us more freedom. I know I feel free, and also endangered. Because of the freedom. They hate me.
 
2012-09-13 11:00:56 AM

Skleenar: Why is it that Republicans seem to think any rational person should believe they are accurate weather vanes of world opinion?

ESPECIALLY Republicans who were involved in the Iraq fiasco.


*shrugs*

Worked for Nixon.
Bonus: buried with full Presidential honors
 
2012-09-13 11:01:40 AM

Lost Thought 00: The fact that some people see this and want to turn it into a large conspiracy theory is disgusting and abominable.


A lot of Romney's money comes from Sheldon Adelson, fanatic billionaire and Likud supporter. Likud wants a war with Iran. Romney has already said he'd support a war with Iran.

Follow the money.
 
2012-09-13 11:01:45 AM

what_now: I really hope you get Robert McNamara as a roommate in hell.


At least McNamara felt bad bout it later. Rummie is an unapologetic war criminal.
 
2012-09-13 11:01:54 AM
A neocon unaware of how the internet works? Unpossible.
 
2012-09-13 11:04:24 AM

shastacola: Your imagined liberal who doesn't believe in free speech is imagined.


You must really like imagination.
 
2012-09-13 11:06:07 AM

theknuckler_33: Except Terry Jones means what he says and Parthenogenetic was engaging in satire.


Oh, so Parth is really just mocking the libs for so deliberately misreading Romney's comments?
 
2012-09-13 11:06:15 AM
www.democrats.com

For old times sake.
 
2012-09-13 11:06:33 AM

Krieghund: shastacola: Your imagined liberal who doesn't believe in free speech is imagined.

You must really like imagination.


Hey, when that's all ya got, that's what ya go with.
 
2012-09-13 11:07:21 AM
Upon seeing that tweet I was almost tempted to sign up for twitter just to post:

"Do you ever lie awake at night thinking about how many American servicemen are now dead due to your complete incompetence?"

The sad thing is, he probably doesn't.
 
2012-09-13 11:08:20 AM

Krieghund: shastacola: Your imagined liberal who doesn't believe in free speech is imagined.

You must really like imagination.


I imagine hidden text in your post, invisible text that shows sources / citations of American liberals who hate free speech. But then I realized that my imagination gets the better of me a lot, just like bullshiatting gets the better of you.
 
2012-09-13 11:08:48 AM

Garet Garrett: theknuckler_33: Except Terry Jones means what he says and Parthenogenetic was engaging in satire.

Oh, so Parth is really just mocking the libs for so deliberately misreading Romney's comments?


I'm not going to speak for him/her again. I just think equating that post with Terry Jones' comments/actions is silly.
 
2012-09-13 11:09:12 AM
Well technically he's correct. Our Embassies are rather small in comparison to the country they are in and the amount of Marines on guard cannot possibly hold back the population of a city for very long. So the Embassy is a very weak target.
 
2012-09-13 11:09:18 AM
i45.tinypic.com

DAMMIT DAMMIT DAMMIT, KEEP THROWING SHIAT AGAINST THE WALL. SOMEONE IS BOUND TO STICK
 
2012-09-13 11:09:57 AM
These comments and actions might be a great thing in the long run, provided Obama wins the election. It will show clear proof that Obama should have prosecuted the Bush administration's neo-con people. Obama decided in 2009 that prosecuting Bush et al., for war crimes would have been bad political theater. Now, he will see that they haven't learned their lessons and are willing to commit the crimes again. He will prosecute now, and hopefully, these people will hang.
 
2012-09-13 11:10:24 AM

Thrag: Upon seeing that tweet I was almost tempted to sign up for twitter just to post:

"Do you ever lie awake at night thinking about how many American servicemen are now dead due to your complete incompetence?"

The sad thing is, he probably doesn't.


Unless what your wrote is a really weird euphemism for poor bladder control, no, he doesn't.
 
2012-09-13 11:11:27 AM

DoBeDoBeDo: Well technically he's correct. Our Embassies are rather small in comparison to the country they are in and the amount of Marines on guard cannot possibly hold back the population of a city for very long. So the Embassy is a very weak target.


We should probably just put a brigade at each embassy. That couldn't be misconstrued for an occupation, right?
 
2012-09-13 11:11:39 AM
When will the right-wing-media propaganda start claiming that Obama either knew about this attack or should have...
 
2012-09-13 11:12:57 AM

Citrate1007: When will the right-wing-media propaganda start claiming that Obama either knew about this attack or should have...


Right after they attempt to wipe the Googlesphere of mentions of Aug. 6, 2001.
 
2012-09-13 11:14:20 AM

Thrag: Upon seeing that tweet I was almost tempted to sign up for twitter just to post:

"Do you ever lie awake at night thinking about how many American servicemen are now dead due to your complete incompetence?"

The sad thing is, he probably doesn't.


Just out of curiosity, do you attribute the death of our Ambassador to Libya to the complete incompetence of Secretary Clinton, under whose leadership our consulate was left with "lock and key" security (meaning no security at all, really), despite its presence in a city that has, for all of recent memory, been a hotbed of AQ and other Islamist terrorism? Christ, we literally have more security than that in our local courthouse. And I'm not using the word "literally" in the Joe Biden sense. We have bulletproof glass and other physical security measures as well as a fairly robust boot-based security system.
 
2012-09-13 11:14:57 AM
Republican reaction to these events: YAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAY!
 
2012-09-13 11:14:59 AM

wejash: "They" attacked us Libya.

So we should invade Iran right away.

What?

Isn't that how this works?

Get attacked by a small lunatic group of terrorists in one place and blow the crap out of and occupy a completely unrelated nation we're pissed at?

Yes...a brilliant plan. Worked so well for us in the past, let's try it again.


We learned that occupying sucks. This time let's go in, obliterate their military,and give the civilians 48 hours notice to leave. Then....glass parking lot and we're done.
 
2012-09-13 11:17:50 AM

YoungSwedishBlonde: [i45.tinypic.com image 385x579]

DAMMIT DAMMIT DAMMIT, KEEP THROWING SHIAT AGAINST THE WALL. SOMEONE IS BOUND TO STICK


Holy crap? Is that real?

*off to 538*

www.5starhiphop.com
 
2012-09-13 11:22:23 AM
i208.photobucket.com

The military-industrial-media complex frowns on subby's shenanigans
 
2012-09-13 11:25:19 AM
www.pakistankakhudahafiz.com

How about NO
Does NO work for you?
 
2012-09-13 11:27:37 AM

Garet Garrett: Thrag: Upon seeing that tweet I was almost tempted to sign up for twitter just to post:

"Do you ever lie awake at night thinking about how many American servicemen are now dead due to your complete incompetence?"

The sad thing is, he probably doesn't.

Just out of curiosity, do you attribute the death of our Ambassador to Libya to the complete incompetence of Secretary Clinton, under whose leadership our consulate was left with "lock and key" security (meaning no security at all, really), despite its presence in a city that has, for all of recent memory, been a hotbed of AQ and other Islamist terrorism? Christ, we literally have more security than that in our local courthouse. And I'm not using the word "literally" in the Joe Biden sense. We have bulletproof glass and other physical security measures as well as a fairly robust boot-based security system.


You do know that Embassies and Consulates aren't fortresses, right? You do know they are functional buildings used for conducting business and all manner of other things that would be impeded by security detachments of heavily armed US forces? You do know that according to international law, the host country is primarily responsible for the security of foreign embassies and consulates in their country, right?

You seem to be as clueless as Romney when it comes to foreign diplomacy and how it operates in the real world.
 
2012-09-13 11:29:04 AM

tinyarena: [www.pakistankakhudahafiz.com image 307x360]

How about NO
Does NO work for you?


fark him for lying, but I like the insanity of that moment. "Excuse me, gentlemen currently holding extremely high offices in our government, here is a vile of a deadly reagent. Right here. Among us. All of us incredibly powerful and influential people. Right here."
 
2012-09-13 11:29:14 AM

theknuckler_33: Garet Garrett: theknuckler_33: Except Terry Jones means what he says and Parthenogenetic was engaging in satire.

Oh, so Parth is really just mocking the libs for so deliberately misreading Romney's comments?

I'm not going to speak for him/her again. I just think equating that post with Terry Jones' comments/actions is silly.


Meh, just free-form trolling.

This morning a co-worker said the ambassador and his staff had no business being in Libya anyway, so they got what they deserved from trying to negotiate with terrorists. This guy is sort of a dim bulb, so he must have gotten it from Hannity yesterday, Boortz this morning, or some crappy blog.

I expect you'll be seeing a more polished version soon.
 
2012-09-13 11:29:40 AM
Just popping in to repeat, yet again, the FACT that there were more embassy attacks under oh so militant and uber war hero Bush than any time in our history.

Republicanism is what happens when deliberate ignorance mixes with a healthy dose of mind numbingly stupid, then they go to church to learn how to be fundyterrorist nutbags with nothing useful to add to the world.

These attacks can be laid squarely at the foot go GOP fundamentalists. They put out this video, they smirk when Americans die in a fire. Real live evil, right here at home. They need scourged from the land.
 
2012-09-13 11:30:20 AM

Epoch_Zero: tinyarena: [www.pakistankakhudahafiz.com image 307x360]

How about NO
Does NO work for you?

fark him for lying, but I like the insanity of that moment. "Excuse me, gentlemen currently holding extremely high offices in our government, here is a vile of a deadly reagent. Right here. Among us. All of us incredibly powerful and influential people. Right here."


Shock and Awe
 
2012-09-13 11:30:21 AM
So was I right? Did it take a whole day to tie this to Iran, however tenuous that connection might be?
 
2012-09-13 11:30:56 AM
Couldn't all just post that pic of Rumsfeld shaking hands with Saddam? Wouldn't that shut Rumsfeld up? Here let's give it a try.

s3.amazonaws.com
 
2012-09-13 11:31:25 AM
s3.amazonaws.com
Worth a shot.
 
2012-09-13 11:31:39 AM
Cognative Dissonance explained

Republican is President:
They attack us for our freedom!

Democrat is President: They attack us because we're weak/need leadership!

... you can't explain that.
 
2012-09-13 11:38:15 AM

spiderpaz: Cognative Dissonance explained

Republican is President: They attack us for our freedom!

Democrat is President: They attack us because we're weak/need leadership!

... you can't explain that.



more like double standards, because it's done on purpose
 
2012-09-13 11:40:55 AM

Epoch_Zero: tinyarena: [www.pakistankakhudahafiz.com image 307x360]

How about NO
Does NO work for you?

fark him for lying, but I like the insanity of that moment. "Excuse me, gentlemen currently holding extremely high offices in our government, here is a vilevial of a deadly reagent. Right here. Among us. All of us incredibly powerful and influential people. Right here."


*shakes tiny fist at English (the language - the people are lovely)*
 
2012-09-13 11:44:03 AM

keylock71: Garet Garrett: Thrag: Upon seeing that tweet I was almost tempted to sign up for twitter just to post:

"Do you ever lie awake at night thinking about how many American servicemen are now dead due to your complete incompetence?"

The sad thing is, he probably doesn't.

Just out of curiosity, do you attribute the death of our Ambassador to Libya to the complete incompetence of Secretary Clinton, under whose leadership our consulate was left with "lock and key" security (meaning no security at all, really), despite its presence in a city that has, for all of recent memory, been a hotbed of AQ and other Islamist terrorism? Christ, we literally have more security than that in our local courthouse. And I'm not using the word "literally" in the Joe Biden sense. We have bulletproof glass and other physical security measures as well as a fairly robust boot-based security system.

You do know that Embassies and Consulates aren't fortresses, right? You do know they are functional buildings used for conducting business and all manner of other things that would be impeded by security detachments of heavily armed US forces? You do know that according to international law, the host country is primarily responsible for the security of foreign embassies and consulates in their country, right?

You seem to be as clueless as Romney when it comes to foreign diplomacy and how it operates in the real world.


That and the State Dept was dinged for not having adequate security.

From that link, it looks like State was in cost-cutting mode, skimping on its own security, which I find strange. I couldn't, in some quick googling, find out the source of cuts to State's budget, or calls for cuts to their budget. I suspect someone could find a source, but this can't have happened in a vacuum.
 
2012-09-13 11:44:13 AM

Rich Cream:
more like double standards, because it's done on purpose


I wouldn't be the least bit surprised to discover that the Romney camp were the folks to greenlight this video and spring it on the world.

We all saw him smirk delightedly about American diplomats dying in a fire.

Evil farking piece of fundamentalist garbage.
 
2012-09-13 11:45:06 AM

beta_plus: I love how liberals aren't even really trying anymore to pretend that the believe in free speech for those who they don't agree with. After their butt hurt over Chick-Fil-A day, they just see this as the perfect opportunity to pass laws to make sure people that they don't agree with don't have the right to speak freely out of "not offending muslims to protect national security".


Dixie chicks, Michael moore, Occupy Wall Street, Sandra Fluke, Dark Knight Rises, Obama Hugging Pizza Guy, Bill Ayers, Catholic Nuns against the Ryan Budget, George Clooney, Jon Stewart, not quite 'ground zero' mosque, TLC's 'Muslim in America', Bill Maher, Jermaiah Wright...

That, off the top of my head, is a short list of private citizens the GOP has attacked for using their right to free speech.

So in short... you are now defending an idiot trying to incite violence along with sympathy for an American born al'qaeda terrorist, bin laden, and Qaddafi.
 
2012-09-13 11:47:05 AM
There are so very few people in this world that I feel an actual, palpable hatred for. Donnie Rumsfeld is one such person. This son of a biatch is should be eternally grateful he lives in a country that he has the right to continue to voice his opinions after having embarrassed us all with his role as Sec. of Defense.

Donnie, by all means, tell us how you feel, because by all means, we're going to reject any foreign policy analysis you espouse, because, well... you pretty much failed miserably at it before. You're a liar, my man.
 
2012-09-13 11:47:29 AM
Shut up Rumsfield, you farking traitor.
 
2012-09-13 11:48:37 AM

quatchi:
/Donald Rumsfeld's total lack of credibility here is what some might call a "known known".


Well played, sir. Well played.
 
2012-09-13 11:50:38 AM

Deneb81: beta_plus: I love how liberals aren't even really trying anymore to pretend that the believe in free speech for those who they don't agree with. After their butt hurt over Chick-Fil-A day, they just see this as the perfect opportunity to pass laws to make sure people that they don't agree with don't have the right to speak freely out of "not offending muslims to protect national security".

Dixie chicks, Michael moore, Occupy Wall Street, Sandra Fluke, Dark Knight Rises, Obama Hugging Pizza Guy, Bill Ayers, Catholic Nuns against the Ryan Budget, George Clooney, Jon Stewart, not quite 'ground zero' mosque, TLC's 'Muslim in America', Bill Maher, Jermaiah Wright...

That, off the top of my head, is a short list of private citizens the GOP has attacked for using their right to free speech.

So in short... you are now defending an idiot trying to incite violence along with sympathy for an American born al'qaeda terrorist, bin laden, and Qaddafi.


Isn't it cute that to republicans, shouting "kill all the gays and drag their mangled carcasses through the streets", is protected free speech, but taking voting with your wallet and saying, "fark chik fil a, those fundyterrorist nutbag
 
2012-09-13 11:52:03 AM
Rumsfeld is a perfect conservative: ignorant, stupid, falsely confident, and a draft dodging coward.
 
2012-09-13 11:52:19 AM
Ahem.. But voting with your wallet and taking your chicken buying away from chik fil a fundyterrorists is evil bad.


Stupid, inbred, fundyterrorist scum
 
2012-09-13 11:56:34 AM

TommyDeuce:

Better then shameless Camel Toe-ing


You saw Hillary in that pantsuit too? That burns the retina permanently.

/Cue the sound sideshow bob stepping on rakes and shuddering.
 
2012-09-13 11:58:23 AM
So what would the GOP say if Obama comes to them in the next few days asking or declaring another War on Terror?
 
2012-09-13 11:59:44 AM

neongoats: Ahem.. But voting with your wallet and taking your chicken buying away from chik fil a fundyterrorists is evil bad.


Stupid, inbred, fundyterrorist scum


I missed that news story. When did those "Eat more chiken" cows storm Islamic country embassies, kill ambassadors, call it "the peace dividend" and change the Arab Spring to an Arab Fall?
 
2012-09-13 12:00:52 PM

deadcrickets: So what would the GOP say if Obama comes to them in the next few days asking or declaring another War on Terror?


They'd break out into a chorus of "All we are saying is give peace a chance...."
 
2012-09-13 12:02:55 PM

beta_plus: Hard to say. But it is definitely a sign that much of the Muslim world and the American Left does not believe in free speech.


Was that the excuse you used when you cheered after Rep. Giffords was shot?

beta_plus: I love how liberals aren't even really trying anymore to pretend that the believe in free speech for those who they don't agree with. After their butt hurt over Chick-Fil-A day, they just see this as the perfect opportunity to pass laws to make sure people that they don't agree with don't have the right to speak freely out of "not offending muslims to protect national security".


Is that why you 100% backed a boycott over a pizza guy because he hugged someone you have an unhinged hatred for?
 
2012-09-13 12:03:04 PM

YoungSwedishBlonde: [i45.tinypic.com image 385x579]

DAMMIT DAMMIT DAMMIT, KEEP THROWING SHIAT AGAINST THE WALL. SOMEONE IS BOUND TO STICK


If American politics were anywhere near sane, Obama would bury Romney with Reagan/Mondale numbers.

/If American politics were anywhere near sane, though, Democrats would be the right-wing party, the Republicans would be a powerless fringe party, and some sane, liberal party would oppose Democrats.
 
2012-09-13 12:04:22 PM

tony41454: It's all Hillary Clinton's fault:

Link


Do you want her lynched right next to Obama now in your wet dream?
 
2012-09-13 12:05:57 PM

dehehn: beta_plus: [stupid, obvious flamebait]

I know you're a troll,


Then why the fark are you crapping up the thread responding to it?
 
2012-09-13 12:09:40 PM

Chimperror2: neongoats: Ahem.. But voting with your wallet and taking your chicken buying away from chik fil a fundyterrorists is evil bad.


Stupid, inbred, fundyterrorist scum

I missed that news story. When did those "Eat more chiken" cows storm Islamic country embassies, kill ambassadors, call it "the peace dividend" and change the Arab Spring to an Arab Fall?


That post was supposed to be the end of a reply to another post, but my tablet farked me up.

What's the Rmoney solution here? Invade 4 more countries and show them ALL! Driving us further into debt and recession that people lime Rmoney will never notice the effects of? No thanks.

I'm half convinced the farking video was put out with full Rmoney camp knowledge anyway. Smirky McHatesAmerica.

I'm pretty sure the joint chiefs would just flat out say "fark you".
 
2012-09-13 12:10:29 PM
Once again, for all you right wing retards. Free speech means that you are free to say whatever you like, but you are not immune to the consequences. Hence, I can walk up to any elected official and tell him that I think he's a sekrit muslin and not have to worry about getting locked up by some goon squad.

No one is calling for the filmmakers to be jailed. they are calling them many other things, most assuredly, but they remain free to make another garbage film and release it onto the world. That is free speech. When someone tells you to go fark yourself because of what you say to them, they are not infringing on your rights, they are exercising their free speech.

The notion that anybody else in the world has to respect the constitution is laughable. Do you follow the Magna Carta? How about the Canadian Charter of Rights and Freedoms? I didn't think so. Unfortunately, this is what being hated by the rest of the world brings the US. Perhaps the reason Muslims and the Middle East in general doesn't like America isn't the fact they hate your free speech, it's that the west has spent the better part of the last 30 years bombing them.
 
2012-09-13 12:13:33 PM

Garet Garrett: You realize that your comments are just as abhorrent as anything Terry Jones (Florida "pastor," not the Python) ever said, right?


theknuckler_33: Except Terry Jones means what he says and Parthenogenetic was engaging in satire.


Dude, seriously - you're wasting your time. Wingnuts don't get satire. Hell, most wingnuts who watch Colbert's act think that he really means it and just pretends to be joking to fool the libs.

Garet Garrett: Oh, so Parth is really just mocking the libs for so deliberately misreading Romney's comments?


See what i mean?
 
2012-09-13 12:21:10 PM

Generic Republican: Perhaps the reason Muslims and the Middle East in general doesn't like America isn't the fact they hate your free speech, it's that the west has spent the better part of the last 30 years bombing them.


Pshaw. They are mindless Muslim killbots dedicated to the destruction of all things American and good and free.

To imply they actually have valid reasons for anger towards the USA is implying that they're human beings with the same capacity for anger and irrationality as the rest of us, which makes it difficult to ignore it when a drone accidentally blows up a bus full of their kids.

So repeat after me. Mindless. Muslim. Killbots.
 
2012-09-13 12:30:25 PM

rosebud_the_sled: Rumsfeld is a perfect conservative: ignorant, stupid, falsely confident, and a draft dodging coward.


As much as I like to agree with you, Rummy is not one of the chickenhawks. He holds the rank of captain in the US Navy as a naval aviator. He did serve during the relative peaceful period of '54 - '57.
 
2012-09-13 12:31:47 PM

beta_plus: I love how liberals aren't even really trying anymore to pretend that the believe in free speech for those who they don't agree with. After their butt hurt over Chick-Fil-A day, they just see this as the perfect opportunity to pass laws to make sure people that they don't agree with don't have the right to speak freely out of "not offending muslims to protect national security".


Mate, you can say whatever you like - just don't expect everyone to not call you a coont when what you're saying is pig-ignorant, ill-informed, or downright mendacious, k?

K
 
2012-09-13 12:36:46 PM
OF COURSE The man who order snipers to take out pirates holding an American citizen hostage, who sent a Seal team to get Bin Ladin, and who has collected the heads of a score of guys who held the job of #2 in command of al-Qaeda is acting in ways that create a perception of American weakness. Why didn't I see it before?

Shut up, Rummy. I'm going to consider your idea idea of "perceived American weakness" an "unknown unknown," because I just don't see any evidence for it.
 
2012-09-13 12:45:10 PM
It's so cute how Rumsfeld and Bolton believe their opinions carry any capitol with the American people and that they believe they're anything more than human punching bags for future history books.
 
2012-09-13 12:47:00 PM
Well then, 9/11 must have been because of perceived American weakness. Thanks a lot, Bush.
 
2012-09-13 12:47:12 PM

quizzical: OF COURSE The man who order snipers to take out pirates holding an American citizen hostage, who sent a Seal team to get Bin Ladin, and who has collected the heads of a score of guys who held the job of #2 in command of al-Qaeda is acting in ways that create a perception of American weakness. Why didn't I see it before?

Shut up, Rummy. I'm going to consider your idea idea of "perceived American weakness" an "unknown unknown," because I just don't see any evidence for it.


Just find some empty chair and squint so hard you hallucinate.
 
2012-09-13 01:02:05 PM

beta_plus: I love how liberals aren't even really trying anymore to pretend that the believe in free speech speach for those who they don't agree with. After their butt hurt over Chick-Fil-A day, they just see this as the perfect opportunity to pass laws to make sure people that they don't agree with don't have the right to speak freely out of "not offending muslims to protect national security".


FTFY since what you're writing has nothing to do with reality anyway.

More strawmen per word than I've seen in some time.

/Help!! Libs! LIBS!!!!
 
2012-09-13 01:10:46 PM
Every knows the number of embassy attacks is one of those known unknowns. Or maybe its an unknown unknown. Its hard to say.

Link
 
2012-09-13 01:13:54 PM

AnEvilGuest: quizzical: OF COURSE The man who order snipers to take out pirates holding an American citizen hostage, who sent a Seal team to get Bin Ladin, and who has collected the heads of a score of guys who held the job of #2 in command of al-Qaeda is acting in ways that create a perception of American weakness. Why didn't I see it before?

Shut up, Rummy. I'm going to consider your idea idea of "perceived American weakness" an "unknown unknown," because I just don't see any evidence for it.

Just find some empty chair and squint so hard you hallucinate.


That, sir, is the squint of freedom, the peek of liberty. The squinch of our patriot fore-fathers who marched into enemy lines and into eternity with their eyes screwed up tight by love of country. No, sir, do not denigrate or insult the squint of freedom. Rather, smile a painful smile, drive those cheeks high into your eye sockets and squinch your God-fearing eyes till Freedom Tears run down your face like a July Hershey bar on a toddler's sun-washed face.
 
2012-09-13 01:17:53 PM
F*ck you, Rumsfeld.
 
2012-09-13 01:33:00 PM

neongoats: Chimperror2: neongoats: Ahem.. But voting with your wallet and taking your chicken buying away from chik fil a fundyterrorists is evil bad.


Stupid, inbred, fundyterrorist scum

I missed that news story. When did those "Eat more chiken" cows storm Islamic country embassies, kill ambassadors, call it "the peace dividend" and change the Arab Spring to an Arab Fall?

That post was supposed to be the end of a reply to another post, but my tablet farked me up.

What's the Rmoney solution here? Invade 4 more countries and show them ALL! Driving us further into debt and recession that people lime Rmoney will never notice the effects of? No thanks.

I'm half convinced the farking video was put out with full Rmoney camp knowledge anyway. Smirky McHatesAmerica.

I'm pretty sure the joint chiefs would just flat out say "fark you".


I'm pretty sure the video had absolutely nothing to do with an attack on the anniversary of 9/11. No one was chanting about Terry Jones. No one burned his likeness. They did display hatred for America and burned Obama effigies.

The reality is that Libya and Egypt have less control over the radical elements than before the "Arab Spring." That's the price of armed revolution as revolutionaries are by nature 'extremists.'

When Syria falls, it will be the same story. Some will be grateful for western support, others have extreme hatred and will then have political power and influence. Egypt, Libya and Syria were basically run as a secular state with a Muslim majority. They will now be Islamic republics and those that support a religious view that the U.S. and Israel are Satan incarnate have power and access to weapons, intelligence, etc. These attacks are pretty coordinated. In Libya the killers knew way too much about U.S. security plans and that's because the government of Libya now has extremists with access to that information. Same is true in Egypt and soon in Syria. The people winning the revolutions are not friendly to the U.S. and they are not secular.

The real story is why was the U.S. surprised by these attacks on a 9/11 anniversary and why didn't they have sufficient security to deal with it? There is no excuse for an ambassador to Libya to be traveling in that country without U.S. security forces sufficient to protect him. The ambassador to Mexico takes more precautions than that.
 
2012-09-13 02:09:28 PM

YoungSwedishBlonde: [i45.tinypic.com image 385x579]

DAMMIT DAMMIT DAMMIT, KEEP THROWING SHIAT AGAINST THE WALL. SOMEONE IS BOUND TO STICK


Had to check 538 to see if that was real.
 
2012-09-13 02:29:07 PM
So under Bush it was because they hate our freedom, but now it's because we're perceived as weak? Gotcha.
 
2012-09-13 02:38:53 PM
Don Rumsfeld? Don Rumsfeld? Why does that name look familiar?

WASHINGTON, July 7 - A secret military operation in early 2005 to capture senior members of Al Qaeda in Pakistan's tribal areas was aborted at the last minute after top Bush administration officials decided it was too risky and could jeopardize relations with Pakistan, according to intelligence and military officials.

The target was a meeting of Qaeda leaders that intelligence officials thought included Ayman al-Zawahri, Osama bin Laden's top deputy and the man believed to run the terrorist group's operations.

But the mission was called off after Donald H. Rumsfeld, then the defense secretary, rejected an 11th-hour appeal by Porter J. Goss, then the director of the Central Intelligence Agency, officials said
. Members of a Navy Seals unit in parachute gear had already boarded C-130 cargo planes in Afghanistan when the mission was canceled, said a former senior intelligence official involved in the planning.

Mr. Rumsfeld decided that the operation, which had ballooned from a small number of military personnel and C.I.A. operatives to several hundred, was cumbersome and put too many American lives at risk, the current and former officials said. He was also concerned that it could cause a rift with Pakistan, an often reluctant ally that has barred the American military from operating in its tribal areas, the officials said.

The decision to halt the planned "snatch and grab" operation frustrated some top intelligence officials and members of the military's secret Special Operations units, who say the United States missed a significant opportunity to try to capture senior members of Al Qaeda.


Oh, yeah, that's right! Don Rumsfeld called off a raid to get not only A.Q. number 2, but many other top A.Q. leaders, because he's a giant pussy. And anyone thinks I should take the advice of a giant pussy who let A.Q. number 2 away because?

F U Rumsfeld. F U Bush for allowing him to pussy out. F U Cheney for allowing Bush to allow Rumsfeld to be a giant pussy. F U Republicans for allowing the whole lot of them in office.
 
2012-09-13 02:39:09 PM
Is that a known known, known unknown or an unknown unknown?
 
2012-09-13 03:08:40 PM

RyogaM: Don Rumsfeld? Don Rumsfeld? Why does that name look familiar?

WASHINGTON, July 7 - A secret military operation in early 2005 to capture senior members of Al Qaeda in Pakistan's tribal areas was aborted at the last minute after top Bush administration officials decided it was too risky and could jeopardize relations with Pakistan, according to intelligence and military officials.

The target was a meeting of Qaeda leaders that intelligence officials thought included Ayman al-Zawahri, Osama bin Laden's top deputy and the man believed to run the terrorist group's operations.

But the mission was called off after Donald H. Rumsfeld, then the defense secretary, rejected an 11th-hour appeal by Porter J. Goss, then the director of the Central Intelligence Agency, officials said. Members of a Navy Seals unit in parachute gear had already boarded C-130 cargo planes in Afghanistan when the mission was canceled, said a former senior intelligence official involved in the planning.

Mr. Rumsfeld decided that the operation, which had ballooned from a small number of military personnel and C.I.A. operatives to several hundred, was cumbersome and put too many American lives at risk, the current and former officials said. He was also concerned that it could cause a rift with Pakistan, an often reluctant ally that has barred the American military from operating in its tribal areas, the officials said.

The decision to halt the planned "snatch and grab" operation frustrated some top intelligence officials and members of the military's secret Special Operations units, who say the United States missed a significant opportunity to try to capture senior members of Al Qaeda.

Oh, yeah, that's right! Don Rumsfeld called off a raid to get not only A.Q. number 2, but many other top A.Q. leaders, because he's a giant pussy. And anyone thinks I should take the advice of a giant pussy who let A.Q. number 2 away because?

F U Rumsfeld. F U Bush for allowing him to pussy out. F U Cheney for ...


Why would a war monger try to stop a war that he and his cronies are profiting from?
 
2012-09-13 03:43:08 PM

quatchi: Actually, there were twelve terrorist attacks on U.S. diplomatic facilities abroad during George W. Bush's tenure - the most of any president in history - and eight of those occurred while Donald Rumsfeld was in office.

*golf clap*

I don't recall anyone in that mob of protesters carrying signs saying "We perceive you as weak".



Meh, all attacks are not created equal. You want to impress me, show a body count.

That's where the Reagan/Bush administration really shows who's weak: 94 dead in attacks on American embassies and consulates. Why, the rest of the world must have perceived Americas as being as weak as an elderly man with Alzheimer's.
 
2012-09-13 03:53:30 PM

Generic Republican: Once again, for all you right wing retards. Free speech means that you are free to say whatever you like, but you are not immune to the consequences. Hence, I can walk up to any elected official and tell him that I think he's a sekrit muslin and not have to worry about getting locked up by some goon squad.

No one is calling for the filmmakers to be jailed. they are calling them many other things, most assuredly, but they remain free to make another garbage film and release it onto the world. That is free speech. When someone tells you to go fark yourself because of what you say to them, they are not infringing on your rights, they are exercising their free speech.

The notion that anybody else in the world has to respect the constitution is laughable. Do you follow the Magna Carta? How about the Canadian Charter of Rights and Freedoms? I didn't think so. Unfortunately, this is what being hated by the rest of the world brings the US. Perhaps the reason Muslims and the Middle East in general doesn't like America isn't the fact they hate your free speech, it's that the west has spent the better part of the last 30 years bombing them.


They hate us for our freedom to be tricked into thinking that they hate us for our freedom.
 
2012-09-13 05:31:59 PM
Don't throw stones if you live in a glass house.
 
2012-09-13 05:55:07 PM
Rummy knows a lot about not protecting assets properly.

you protect the embassies with the force you have. not the force you might want or wish for at a later time.

"Freedom's untidy, and free people are free to make mistakes and commit crimes and do bad things;stuff happens"
 
2012-09-14 12:01:16 AM

dericwater: rosebud


I stand corrected. I was mixing his war record up with GW and Cheney and virtually every neocon.

He's still a pussy.

I will accept the Internet punishment of constant derision for the foreseeable future.
 
2012-09-14 12:11:05 AM
You guys sure did give that straw man a beating. Hell, you even lit it on fire, called in some crows, donned some overalls and did a little dance.

/good jorb
 
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