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(The Daily Dolt)   Donald Rumsfeld says embassy attacks are due to "perceived American weakness." Apparently, he's never heard of Google, which easily allows people to look up the number of embassy attacks under Bush/Rumsfeld   (thedailydolt.com) divider line 215
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2012-09-13 07:38:06 AM  
He's heard of it. He just doesn't care.
 
2012-09-13 07:40:56 AM  
Everyone knows Google has a liberal bias.
 
2012-09-13 08:02:14 AM  
Yeah McCain was on Morning Joe today repeating the same line. Glad to see the GOP has its talking points lined up. Of course, McCain was unable to say anything about Romneys sheer stupidity from yesterday.
 
2012-09-13 08:15:04 AM  
Oh no! They think we're weak?! We better boost our military spending and invade Libya, Syria, and Iran!
 
2012-09-13 08:35:38 AM  
They're counting on the average mouthbreather to take Rumsfeld's words as gospel, just like they took "Dubya kept us safe from terror attacks"
 
2012-09-13 08:39:27 AM  
I'm still likeing Runny for war crimes.
He needs to lay low and count his money and blessings, like W and Ashcroft and Cheney.
 
2012-09-13 08:46:57 AM  

vudukungfu: I'm still likeing Runny for war crimes.


"I will shoot you in your face"
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2012-09-13 08:56:13 AM  
They attacked under Bush because of our perceived strength. They was grasping at straws before the US forced them into a democracy. Unfortunately Mr. Bush didn't have time to get to all the countries that need it... and now Jethro T. O'Aqualung makes our military wear flowerdy panties and never offend anyone's religious feelings.
 
2012-09-13 09:03:05 AM  
Has anyone quietly suggested yet that those that would benefit most from Obama looking soft on foreign policy are the same people who have been arguing for war with Iran?

Follow the money on this one, the hit on the embassy was pretty well organized, and there are state actors in the region who are pretty happy if they can goad the US into another war.

It will be very interesting if Obama / Clinton / Democrats can truly stand this test, I am rooting for them to do so, but this is looking very much like October Surprise type stuff, particularly if it keeps happening with more attacks.

The neocons didn't all just stop their crap because Obama won the convention presentations. They still want another war, and this attack would traditionally be something that would help them to get one. They think Obama's another Carter, and this plays right into that.
 
2012-09-13 09:04:50 AM  
To clarify, do I think the neocons literally were the trigger men in Libya yesterday? No, they're smarter than that. But do I think they will benefit from the attack? In previous times yes, absolutely, neocons have benefitted from attacks on Americans advancing their cause of more war and more Israeli-centered foreign policy.
 
2012-09-13 09:12:58 AM  
Rumsfeld couldn't conduct a war in the right country. I think I'll pass on giving his comments any further consideration.
 
2012-09-13 09:17:57 AM  
"They" attacked us Libya.

So we should invade Iran right away.

What?

Isn't that how this works?

Get attacked by a small lunatic group of terrorists in one place and blow the crap out of and occupy a completely unrelated nation we're pissed at?

Yes...a brilliant plan. Worked so well for us in the past, let's try it again.
 
2012-09-13 09:38:45 AM  
Actually, there were twelve terrorist attacks on U.S. diplomatic facilities abroad during George W. Bush's tenure - the most of any president in history - and eight of those occurred while Donald Rumsfeld was in office.

*golf clap*

I don't recall anyone in that mob of protesters carrying signs saying "We perceive you as weak".

Most of them were apparently mad about a deliberate piece of agit-prop being attributed to America.

/Donald Rumsfeld's total lack of credibility here is what some might call a "known known".
 
2012-09-13 09:42:40 AM  
The man has been entirely discredited, he's an abject failure. This only means something to people on the far right.
 
2012-09-13 09:42:40 AM  

Generation_D: but this is looking very much like October Surprise type stuff,


Indeed.
 
2012-09-13 09:43:04 AM  
Hard to say. But it is definitely a sign that much of the Muslim world and the American Left does not believe in free speech.
 
2012-09-13 09:43:10 AM  
DONAL PLS
 
2012-09-13 09:43:34 AM  

Donald Rumsfeld just totally cut the line to board this flight. So add that to the list.

- Matt Duss (@mattduss) June 20, 2012
 
2012-09-13 09:45:16 AM  
Or the terrorists want to create a rift between the fledgling government of Libya and the United States and idiots like Rumsfeld are obliging.
 
2012-09-13 09:45:46 AM  
He is right they were just mad as hell at Bushco...
 
2012-09-13 09:46:06 AM  

beta_plus: Hard to say. But it is definitely a sign that much of the Muslim world and the American Left does not believe in free speech.


Interesting. So, when the American Right (?) condemns things like flag burning, you would agree that they do not believe in free speech either.
 
2012-09-13 09:46:27 AM  
So, he's justifying the attack on an American embassy?


Country First, indeed.
 
2012-09-13 09:46:46 AM  
The fact that some people see this and want to turn it into a large conspiracy theory is disgusting and abominable.
 
2012-09-13 09:47:01 AM  

beta_plus: Hard to say. But it is definitely a sign that much of the Muslim world and the American Left does not believe in free speech.


If lefties don't believe in free speech then how come they take so much pleasure in telling you to go EABODs and DIAF?

Answer me that, smart guy!
 
2012-09-13 09:47:29 AM  
Hey Rummy, you go to war with the army that you have inherited from the last administration- you know, the one bogged down in two wars that might have upset a few people overseas?
 
2012-09-13 09:47:58 AM  
Dear Mr. Rumsfeld,

www.occuworld.org

www.executedtoday.com

4.bp.blogspot.com

I really hope you get Robert McNamara as a roommate in hell.
 
2012-09-13 09:48:47 AM  
Rumsfeld continues to use fear to push his political agenda. I wish there was a word for that.
 
2012-09-13 09:49:53 AM  

Lost Thought 00: The fact that some people see this and want to turn it into a large conspiracy theory is disgusting and abominable.


There is some fishy stuff going on with the film that started it.

Not saying I buy into the "Neocons did this" theory, there are any number of groups that might perceive a benefit from these sorts of actions. But there is some real shadowy stuff about the production of that movie and then its sudden prominence in the minds of angry mobs in the middle east.
 
2012-09-13 09:50:11 AM  
Wasn't it Sun Tzu that said something about your enemy underestimating you being a good thing? If we are not weak then wouldn't their perception of us as that be a good thing? I know I'm comparing a pagan Chinaman's outlook on war to the GOP's ideas of war, but more than a few people have given Sun Tzu a thumbs up through the centuries.

And if anything about American policy in terms of war and military makes us look weak in the eyes of the world, it would be the way America has waged war since WWII. We invade, kill people, lose troops, destroy things, spend a lot of money, rebuild an infrastructure we destroyed, then leave and things return to how they were for the most part. If America waged war like Rome, and the knowledge was out there that when we decided it was worth coming to your country to teach you a lesson that it would be a harsh lesson lasting generations. Getting invaded by America is like getting home renovations. It's kind of dusty and a pain in the ass for a bit but when they're finally done your shiat will be better than it was before.

And Rumsfeld can eat a box of it!
 
2012-09-13 09:50:34 AM  

EyeballKid: So, he's justifying the attack on an American embassy?


No, he's justifying the use of dead diplomats as campaign props.
 
2012-09-13 09:50:57 AM  
Oh, STFU you farking war criminal.

i28.photobucket.com

Link
 
2012-09-13 09:51:19 AM  
People elected Obama to restore America's image in the world, even if it meant destroying our economy.

Well, economy is tanked and the world still hates us.
 
2012-09-13 09:51:53 AM  
For Rumsfeld, Google is one of those unknowned knowns.

/I'm seriously thinking that the Republicans are actually throwing the election this cycle.
 
2012-09-13 09:53:17 AM  

SlothB77: People elected Obama to restore America's image in the world, even if it meant destroying our economy.

Well, economy is tanked and the world still hates us.


And you're still ignorant.
 
2012-09-13 09:53:20 AM  
The reason those attacks happen is because people at allowed to enter the building and ransack the place.

/but it happens under republicans too!!!
 
2012-09-13 09:53:52 AM  

Skleenar: Lost Thought 00: The fact that some people see this and want to turn it into a large conspiracy theory is disgusting and abominable.

There is some fishy stuff going on with the film that started it.

Not saying I buy into the "Neocons did this" theory, there are any number of groups that might perceive a benefit from these sorts of actions. But there is some real shadowy stuff about the production of that movie and then its sudden prominence in the minds of angry mobs in the middle east.


Reports are coming out that a large percent of people in that film, cast and crew, had no idea what it was going to end up as and that much of the controversial stuff came in post production.

"We were duped!"
 
2012-09-13 09:54:46 AM  

way south: The reason those attacks happen is because people at allowed to enter the building and ransack the place.


The attacks happened because of mangled sentences?
 
2012-09-13 09:54:49 AM  
Well then I guess they must have thought we were really weak on September 11th 2001! Remind me who was in charge then?
 
2012-09-13 09:55:50 AM  
Rumsfeld is a chicken hawk with obvious ties to the military industrial complex. His solution to every problem is more DoD spending.

/fark that man
 
2012-09-13 09:56:18 AM  
Yes, by all means Mr. Rumsfeld - lets make sure that all the big figures in the oh-so-successful Bush Administration are up front and center stage now with less than two months to the election. I'm sure that will be a winning strategy for you.
 
2012-09-13 09:57:02 AM  

Skleenar: Lost Thought 00: The fact that some people see this and want to turn it into a large conspiracy theory is disgusting and abominable.

There is some fishy stuff going on with the film that started it.

Not saying I buy into the "Neocons did this" theory, there are any number of groups that might perceive a benefit from these sorts of actions. But there is some real shadowy stuff about the production of that movie and then its sudden prominence in the minds of angry mobs in the middle east.


I will say to that what I say about every conspiracy theory - Absence of Evidence is not itself a form of evidence
 
2012-09-13 09:57:17 AM  

Philip Francis Queeg: way south: The reason those attacks happen is because people at allowed to enter the building and ransack the place.

The attacks happened because of mangled sentences?


They overly defensively of their religion the whole thing.
 
2012-09-13 09:58:04 AM  
Hey, what's Dick Cheney think of this? Has anyone asked Wolfowitz or Chertoff?

I know, let's dig up Brownie and get a quote from him, unless he's too busy staring longingly at Rafalca.
 
2012-09-13 09:58:10 AM  

SlothB77: People elected Obama to restore America's image in the world, even if it meant destroying our economy.

Well, economy is tanked and the world still hates us.


1. The economy is not tanked
2. A mob in Libya or Yemen is not "the world"
 
2012-09-13 09:58:56 AM  
republicans will not be bound by "facts" when a lie is much more effective.
 
2012-09-13 09:59:18 AM  
Fuq'You Rumsfeld. You belong in War Crimes Trial with your Overlord Dick Cheney, and his puppets, GWBush, CONdi RIce and the rest of the NeoCON Cabal, many of whom are trying to call the foreign policy shots inside the Romney Camp.

BTW: Netanyahu (another NeoCON War Criminal) is going to deliver the "October Surprise" for the GOP by invading Iran, and then, when Obama waits to craft an appropriate response, the GOP will all be screaming(Sean Hannity and Company style) about how Obama is an appeaser and a traitor to America because he doesn't rush in to do the bidding for the Isreali RightWing.
 
2012-09-13 09:59:24 AM  
What is the percieved weakness of the Obama administration concerning the Middle East, anybody know?
 
2012-09-13 10:00:16 AM  

shastacola: What is the percieved weakness of the Obama administration concerning the Middle East, anybody know?


Our President is even darker than them!
 
2012-09-13 10:00:21 AM  

shastacola: What is the percieved weakness of the Obama administration concerning the Middle East, anybody know?


Because they said so
 
2012-09-13 10:00:46 AM  
Yes, America's percieved weakness.

We send armed drones by the sky-ful to kill paramilitary criminals, but they think we're weak. They can't keep a #2 terrorist employed/alive long enough to get his ID badge, but they think we're weak. We provided most of the manpower NATO used to dethrone their dug-in, 43-year-tenured dictator - which couldn't be done by Carter, Reagan, HW Bush, Clinton, and W Bush - but they think we're weak. America can have a new squad of Marines guarding the embassy - and two more warships in the region - within 24 hours of an attack, but they think we're weak.

Republican politicking - say whatever's convenient to the narrative, facts and logic be damned. You'll just say something else (perhaps even contradictory) tomorrow anyway.
 
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