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(Politico)   For future reference, Mitt, "Libya, boy, I dunno" is when I decided to kick your ass   (politico.com) divider line 198
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2012-09-13 11:45:53 AM  
Bill Kristol, the editor of the "Weekly Standard" and a critic of Romney's decision to overlook Afghanistan in his acceptance speech at last month's GOP convention, wrote on his blog that it's fair to question "the timing and tone" of Romney's statement Tuesday night.

When Bill Kristol says anything negative about his team, it's over.
 
2012-09-13 11:46:22 AM  

ignatius_crumbcake: I was watching a television program before, with a kind of roving moderator who spoke to a seated panel of young women who were having some sort of problem with their boyfriends - apparently, because the boyfriends had all slept with the girlfriends' mothers. And they brought the boyfriends out, and they fought, right there on television. Toby, tell me: these people don't vote, do they?


No, no they don't.
 
2012-09-13 11:48:27 AM  
Mr Romney has botched this campaign so badly that I'm waiting for him to channel former BP CEO Tony Hayward and let slip a "I want my life back" comment.
 
2012-09-13 11:50:32 AM  
I'm beginning to suspect that somewhere this election season, someone came along and said:

"I'm tired of working for candidates who make me think that I should be embarrassed to believe what I believe, Sam! I'm tired of getting them elected! We all need some therapy, because somebody came along and said, "'Liberal' means soft on crime, soft on drugs, soft on Communism, soft on defense, and we're gonna tax you back to the Stone Age because people shouldn't have to go to work if they don't want to!" And instead of saying, "Well, excuse me, you right-wing, reactionary, xenophobic, homophobic, anti-education, anti-choice, pro-gun, Leave It To Beaver trip back to the Fifties...!", we cowered in the corner, and said, "Please. Don't. Hurt. Me." No more."
 
2012-09-13 11:55:07 AM  
"I've said for three-and-a-half years the president doesn't care about national security. He doesn't think the world is terribly threatening," former U.S. Ambassador to the United Nations John Bolton

This man doesn't know what an Ambassador does.....which is why he is a former one. The NeoCons in the GOP place war mongers in these roles because of their close ties with DoD contractors. They want international relations in chaos because it makes them rich.
 
2012-09-13 11:55:20 AM  

God Is My Co-Pirate: ignatius_crumbcake: I was watching a television program before, with a kind of roving moderator who spoke to a seated panel of young women who were having some sort of problem with their boyfriends - apparently, because the boyfriends had all slept with the girlfriends' mothers. And they brought the boyfriends out, and they fought, right there on television. Toby, tell me: these people don't vote, do they?

17 across. Yes, 17 across is wrong... You're spelling his name wrong... What's my name? My name doesn't matter. I am just an ordinary citizen who relies on the Times crossword for stimulation. And I'm telling you that I met the man twice. And I recommended a pre-emptive Exocet missile strike against his air force, so I think I know how...


That line always pissed me off. Exocets are anti-ship missiles.
 
2012-09-13 11:55:23 AM  

Lando Lincoln: I think this is new. But oh so predictable. All of the former Bush advisers trying to make everyone forget how awful they were.


Hobodeluxe: I like how all the wrong people show up to support Mitt. Bolton,Rumsfeld,Kristol and Kyl. It's the return of the neocons.


You'd think they'd know better and just lay low so people can continue to forget their 8-year Cavalcade of FAIL. But I think their prosecution of the war in Iraq shows quite distinctly that these people do not, in any way shape or form, know better.
 
2012-09-13 11:57:20 AM  

Hebjamn: Mr Romney has botched this campaign so badly that I'm waiting for him to channel former BP CEO Tony Hayward and let slip a "I want my life back" comment.


I think he really did expect to be able to waltz into the White House because he's rich, therefore God has favored him, and he's the White Horse spoken of in the prophecy. Little did he know that the hoi-polloi would actually rear up on their hind legs and question his lack of policies and dumbass statements.
 
2012-09-13 11:58:18 AM  
Holy crap.

I am working from home and have the news on as background noise.

Mitt Romney is giving a campaign speech right now, and he's smiling and being glib while talking about the people who were killed in the attack, and just said "I would offer a moment of silence, but one gentleman doesn't want to be silent, so we'll just keep on going" while basking in people chanting his name.

Holy crap. I cannot believe I just saw/heard that.

This man is terrifying.
 
2012-09-13 12:00:18 PM  

serpent_sky: Holy crap.

I am working from home and have the news on as background noise.

Mitt Romney is giving a campaign speech right now, and he's smiling and being glib while talking about the people who were killed in the attack, and just said "I would offer a moment of silence, but one gentleman doesn't want to be silent, so we'll just keep on going" while basking in people chanting his name.

Holy crap. I cannot believe I just saw/heard that.

This man is terrifying.


play that over and over and over again and the independents who aren't full of derp will realize just what they have to look forward with him

/haven't talked to my father about this yet
//If he agrees that Mitt is a terrible person and decides not to vote for him then we could be looking at Mondale levels of fail
///Mitt's Dukakis moment
 
2012-09-13 12:01:20 PM  

serpent_sky: Holy crap.

I am working from home and have the news on as background noise.

Mitt Romney is giving a campaign speech right now, and he's smiling and being glib while talking about the people who were killed in the attack, and just said "I would offer a moment of silence, but one gentleman doesn't want to be silent, so we'll just keep on going" while basking in people chanting his name.

Holy crap. I cannot believe I just saw/heard that.

This man is terrifying.


In the Spring I predicted Romney's complete melt-down by August. I see now that I was off by a couple of weeks. I'm not sure if I want to slow down to look at this car accident.
 
2012-09-13 12:02:36 PM  

Slaves2Darkness: Other then then that who gives a shiat?


then then? you mean than?

libya is important for several reasons. one, because it supplies a lot of oil to our trading partners in europe, italy especially. two, libya and its north african neighbors could be useful as moderate, democratic islamic nations when it comes time to stand up to iran (or saudi arabia). three, anytime people rise up against dictatorship, we have a moral duty to support them. and four, as with egypt, they are a new country - if we fail to support them in their infancy, they could deteriorate into a failed state and become a haven for terrorists.
 
2012-09-13 12:02:52 PM  

serpent_sky: Mitt Romney is giving a campaign speech right now, and he's smiling and being glib while talking about the people who were killed in the attack, and just said "I would offer a moment of silence, but one gentleman doesn't want to be silent, so we'll just keep on going" while basking in people chanting his name.


Wow. Just wow.

We're seeing an implosion on a national scale. And it's all because Romney is being Romney.
 
2012-09-13 12:04:33 PM  

theorellior: serpent_sky: Mitt Romney is giving a campaign speech right now, and he's smiling and being glib while talking about the people who were killed in the attack, and just said "I would offer a moment of silence, but one gentleman doesn't want to be silent, so we'll just keep on going" while basking in people chanting his name.

Wow. Just wow.

We're seeing an implosion on a national scale. And it's all because Romney is being Romney.


I will be very sad if the implosion hits hard enough to make him not go to the debates.
 
2012-09-13 12:06:36 PM  
Schake, who also served on George W. Bush's National Security Council. "That said, the president's leadership has been deficient in aligning America with the forces of democratic change in the Middle East."

In what way?
 
2012-09-13 12:06:49 PM  

sprawl15: I will be very sad if the implosion hits hard enough to make him not go to the debates.


if that happens then we will be looking at a Mondale level ass kicking
 
2012-09-13 12:07:25 PM  

theknuckler_33: Schake, who also served on George W. Bush's National Security Council. "That said, the president's leadership has been deficient in aligning America with the forces of democratic change in the Middle East."

In what way?


in the non-invasion-y way
 
2012-09-13 12:09:42 PM  

sprawl15: I will be very sad if the implosion hits hard enough to make him not go to the debates.


I was expecting the implosion to happen at the debates. Specifically, I wanted to see Romney get a beat-down from the Secret Service on national television as he attempts to wrap his fingers around the president's throat for trolling him.
 
2012-09-13 12:10:39 PM  

somedude210: in the non-invasion-y way


In the non-kickbacky, lack-of-sweetheart-deals and pallets-of-airdropped-cash way.
 
2012-09-13 12:13:20 PM  

theorellior: sprawl15: I will be very sad if the implosion hits hard enough to make him not go to the debates.

I was expecting the implosion to happen at the debates. Specifically, I wanted to see Romney get a beat-down from the Secret Service on national television as he attempts to wrap his fingers around the president's throat for trolling him.


I actually think Obama is probably fit enough to defend himself in the incredibly unlikely event that such a thing happens.

I *do* thin Obama is gonna make him go stupid, because damn, Romney does not like people contradicting him, but... probably not THAT stupid.
 
2012-09-13 12:14:04 PM  

theorellior: sprawl15: I will be very sad if the implosion hits hard enough to make him not go to the debates.

I was expecting the implosion to happen at the debates. Specifically, I wanted to see Romney get a beat-down from the Secret Service on national television as he attempts to wrap his fingers around the president's throat for trolling him.


In fairness, I would have to side with Romney if he did that. No one has ever been trolled that hard before.
 
2012-09-13 12:15:18 PM  
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2012-09-13 12:16:03 PM  

Citrate1007: "I've said for three-and-a-half years the president doesn't care about national security. He doesn't think the world is terribly threatening," former U.S. Ambassador to the United Nations John Bolton

This man doesn't know what an Ambassador does.....which is why he is a former one. The NeoCons in the GOP place war mongers in these roles because of their close ties with DoD contractors. They want international relations in chaos because it makes them rich.


John Bolton was the perfect ambassador for the neocons to the UN - he'd written several times about how silly the UN was, how ineffective, how it should bend to the will of the US...

He believes that the answer to every problem is "a show of US military might". He'd (Godwin) fit right in with the Wehrmacht, crushing neighboring countries just because they need to know we're the big kid on the block.

Of course, they royally farked up when the opportunity for a real huge show of force they were handed on a silver platter was instead turned into a too-small, ill-equipped force that ended up stuck fighting both sides of a civil war. We got no show of force (because ragtag groups of insurgents were taking our territory, necessitating creating the Green Zone, which we also couldn't secure), no display of American might (especially considering we couldn't finish TWO conflicts).

And then Obama (not really, under Obama's watch) had the Arab Spring, where it wasn't the US benevolently replacing their leadership with "democratically (s)elected locals" in a huge show of American power and military might, it was the locals displacing their leadership and finding their own replacements without US help (except Libya, and that was NATO).

All of this should have resulted in John Bolton feeling the repeated kicks to the scrotum the universe keeps sending his way, but apparently "Emptysack" Bolton is more than a cute nickname.
 
2012-09-13 12:16:35 PM  

quatchi: Plus 1 purely for the WW headline.

Love that episode.

/Let Obama be Obama.


If it's the President, in his last campaign, his last debate, for the last job he'll ever have...if the President shows up, I think it'll be a sight to see, I mean a sight to see. What do you think?
 
2012-09-13 12:16:42 PM  

serpent_sky: Mitt Romney is giving a campaign speech right now, and he's smiling and being glib while talking about the people who were killed in the attack, and just said "I would offer a moment of silence, but one gentleman doesn't want to be silent, so we'll just keep on going" while basking in people chanting his name.


i have a deep and visceral hatred for this man that i've never experienced with any other politician. i do believe that sarah palin is an appalling woman who represents everything wrong with america at the beginning of the 21st century - but romney... romney is just farking evil.
 
2012-09-13 12:18:37 PM  
I don't understand the "Libya, boy, I dunno" reference. I googled it and the only result was this thread.

Please explain? Thanks!
 
2012-09-13 12:20:01 PM  

Felgraf: theorellior: sprawl15: I will be very sad if the implosion hits hard enough to make him not go to the debates.

I was expecting the implosion to happen at the debates. Specifically, I wanted to see Romney get a beat-down from the Secret Service on national television as he attempts to wrap his fingers around the president's throat for trolling him.

I actually think Obama is probably fit enough to defend himself in the incredibly unlikely event that such a thing happens.

I *do* thin Obama is gonna make him go stupid, because damn, Romney does not like people contradicting him, but... probably not THAT stupid.


I give it even odds of happening if Obama points out that he has more Presidential experience than Romney.
 
2012-09-13 12:21:52 PM  

StopLurkListen: I don't understand the "Libya, boy, I dunno" reference. I googled it and the only result was this thread.

Please explain? Thanks!


It's a reference to Pres. Bartlett in a debate with his GOP rival.

Until that point, Bartlett hadn't been entirely sure that he was ready to go out there and win it, but then his rival says something that slips my mind 'something something, boy, I don't know'....Some folksy bullshiat like Bush jr would say...
 
2012-09-13 12:21:57 PM  

StopLurkListen: I don't understand the "Libya, boy, I dunno" reference. I googled it and the only result was this thread.

Please explain? Thanks!

 

Crime, boy I dunno.
 
2012-09-13 12:22:01 PM  

FlashHarry: i have a deep and visceral hatred for this man that i've never experienced with any other politician. i do believe that sarah palin is an appalling woman who represents everything wrong with america at the beginning of the 21st century - but romney... romney is just farking evil.


Comparing the two is like comparing a two-bit grifter with Lex Luthor. There are orders of magnitude between their activities.
 
2012-09-13 12:22:08 PM  

StopLurkListen: I don't understand the "Libya, boy, I dunno" reference. I googled it and the only result was this thread.

Please explain? Thanks!


Link

enjoy
 
2012-09-13 12:22:46 PM  

FlashHarry: serpent_sky: Mitt Romney is giving a campaign speech right now, and he's smiling and being glib while talking about the people who were killed in the attack, and just said "I would offer a moment of silence, but one gentleman doesn't want to be silent, so we'll just keep on going" while basking in people chanting his name.

i have a deep and visceral hatred for this man that i've never experienced with any other politician. i do believe that sarah palin is an appalling woman who represents everything wrong with america at the beginning of the 21st century - but romney... romney is just farking evil.


All the rightwingers who lost their minds over Obama's choice of mustard will naturally ignore Romney smiling repeatedly during a somber conference and walking away with a big smile. They will claim its libs unfairly attacking Romney over something insignficant.

Its predictable and vile of them.
 
2012-09-13 12:23:15 PM  

StopLurkListen: I don't understand the "Libya, boy, I dunno" reference. I googled it and the only result was this thread.

Please explain? Thanks!


The original line is "Crime, boy, I dunno"
Link
 
2012-09-13 12:23:55 PM  

Felgraf: I *do* think Obama is gonna make him go stupid, because damn, Romney does not like people contradicting him, but... probably not THAT stupid.


I'm thinking there's a small but definitely non-zero chance that Romney will have a buffer overflow and just go stark raving bugfark.
 
2012-09-13 12:26:10 PM  

StopLurkListen: I don't understand the "Libya, boy, I dunno" reference. I googled it and the only result was this thread.

Please explain? Thanks!


There once was a show called "The West Wing". It was written by a brilliant man named Aaron Sorkin*, and it was about the inner workings of the President of the United States and his staff.

At one point, the President is talking to the man running against him, and he's very shaken up because a secret service officer was just killed in a random shooting.

The man running against the president says "Crime boy. I don't know".

The President realizes that the man running against him is an utter buffoon, and although he's tired and isn't sure he even still WANTS to be president, he realizes that he simply cannot let this man be the leader of the free world.

So he says, "In the future, if you're wondering, 'Crime. Boy. I don't know' was when I decided to kick your ass".

*sadly Aaron Sorkin got used to be told he was brilliant, and now writes utter crap.
 
2012-09-13 12:27:06 PM  

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Thanks for the earworm.
 
2012-09-13 12:27:44 PM  

StopLurkListen: I don't understand the "Libya, boy, I dunno" reference. I googled it and the only result was this thread.

Please explain? Thanks!


I don't understand it either but I was too cool to ask myself.
 
2012-09-13 12:28:59 PM  

StopLurkListen: I don't understand the "Libya, boy, I dunno" reference. I googled it and the only result was this thread.

Please explain? Thanks!


Season 3 finale of The West Wing - President Bartlet and (Republican nominee) Governor Ritchie are backstage at an event talking when Bartlet shares the fact that he's shaken by a character had been killed earlier in the episode in a botched convenience store hold-up. Ritchie responds to the story by saying "crime, boy, I don't know..." in a rather dismissive tone before changing the subject to those problems he has with Bartlet, and the two exchange barbs on what they think the others failures are. When it's time for him to enter the performance Bartlet leaves, but not before saying the phrase in the headline (except substituting "crime" for Libya), signalling that his contempt for Ritchie had gotten to a personal level.
 
2012-09-13 12:30:06 PM  
Easily my favorite post from the primaries:

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2012-09-13 12:30:14 PM  

what_now: *sadly Aaron Sorkin got used to be told he was brilliant, and now writes utter crap.


Thanks for the explanation. Only ever saw clips of West Wing but he still has moments of brilliance in Newsroom. The filler between those moments is very lame though.
 
2012-09-13 12:30:21 PM  

Grungehamster: StopLurkListen: I don't understand the "Libya, boy, I dunno" reference. I googled it and the only result was this thread.

Please explain? Thanks!

Season 3 finale of The West Wing - President Bartlet and (Republican nominee) Governor Ritchie are backstage at an event talking when Bartlet shares the fact that he's shaken by a character had been killed earlier in the episode in a botched convenience store hold-up. Ritchie responds to the story by saying "crime, boy, I don't know..." in a rather dismissive tone before changing the subject to those problems he has with Bartlet, and the two exchange barbs on what they think the others failures are. When it's time for him to enter the performance Bartlet leaves, but not before saying the phrase in the headline (except substituting "crime" for Libya), signalling that his contempt for Ritchie had gotten to a personal level.


I couldn't have explained it better
 
2012-09-13 12:34:52 PM  
John Bolton - Just barely relevant enough to appear on AM Talk Radio to throw firebombs inbetweenst Herbalife and Cash For Gold commercials to an audience of chronically unemployed illiterate long haul truckers.
 
2012-09-13 12:38:00 PM  
"I think a weak reaction, a failure to demonstrate American power and resolve, will help see this stretch throughout the region... I come back to Tehran in 1979, that if we're not careful here, we're going to see a repetition of that crisis which of course was a major factor contributing to the destruction of the Jimmy Carter administration," Bolton added.

You mean the armed response that had mechanical difficulties and got downed in a sandstorm, or the imaginary lack of response that people keep inventing for Carter? Pleas elaborate...
 
2012-09-13 12:39:10 PM  
Maybe President Obama can have a beer summit with Amb. Stevens' widow and his killers. Kaliber for the murderers, of course -- we wouldn't want to offend.
 
2012-09-13 12:40:34 PM  
Thanks for the explanation and links, everyone!
 
2012-09-13 12:43:58 PM  

Felgraf: theorellior: sprawl15: I will be very sad if the implosion hits hard enough to make him not go to the debates.

I was expecting the implosion to happen at the debates. Specifically, I wanted to see Romney get a beat-down from the Secret Service on national television as he attempts to wrap his fingers around the president's throat for trolling him.

I actually think Obama is probably fit enough to defend himself in the incredibly unlikely event that such a thing happens.

I *do* thin Obama is gonna make him go stupid, because damn, Romney does not like people contradicting him, but... probably not THAT stupid.


I can see Obama sidestepping and helping him fall to the ground, then do the 'brush dust off my shoulder' move.
 
2012-09-13 12:47:26 PM  

Mikey1969: "I think a weak reaction, a failure to demonstrate American power and resolve, will help see this stretch throughout the region... I come back to Tehran in 1979, that if we're not careful here, we're going to see a repetition of that crisis which of course was a major factor contributing to the destruction of the Jimmy Carter administration," Bolton added.

You mean the armed response that had mechanical difficulties and got downed in a sandstorm, or the imaginary lack of response that people keep inventing for Carter? Pleas elaborate...


I and one of my older colleagues disagree on a number of things when it comes to politics and public policy, but one thing we agree on is that if that storm hadn't downed that team, the last 30 years would have been very, very different.
 
2012-09-13 12:48:20 PM  

carrion_luggage: Maybe President Obama can have a beer summit with Amb. Stevens' widow and his killers. Kaliber for the murderers, of course -- we wouldn't want to offend.


And there's another dumbfark heard from.
 
2012-09-13 12:50:49 PM  
www.csicon.org

Oh wait, he's making Obama look bad? Clearly Captain America is a Racist Nazi.
 
2012-09-13 12:51:06 PM  

TheBeastOfYuccaFlats: Mikey1969: "I think a weak reaction, a failure to demonstrate American power and resolve, will help see this stretch throughout the region... I come back to Tehran in 1979, that if we're not careful here, we're going to see a repetition of that crisis which of course was a major factor contributing to the destruction of the Jimmy Carter administration," Bolton added.

You mean the armed response that had mechanical difficulties and got downed in a sandstorm, or the imaginary lack of response that people keep inventing for Carter? Pleas elaborate...

I and one of my older colleagues disagree on a number of things when it comes to politics and public policy, but one thing we agree on is that if that storm hadn't downed that team, the last 30 years would have been very, very different.


Also, if Regan hadn't been going behind the state departments back negotiating with the terrorists at the time.

What's the over under on a GOP super PAC being behind the video and it's 9/11 promotion?
 
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