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2012-09-13 07:19:56 AM
You get Biden!!
 
2012-09-13 08:09:06 AM
You're what my friends call...a...superior sonofabiatch.
 
2012-09-13 08:11:36 AM
Four point two million new jobs, that wasn't good? Bailed out Europe, increased foreign trade, 30 million new acres of land for conservation, put Sotomayor on the bench, we're not fighting a war, I've raised two children... that's not enough to buy me out of the doghouse? Haec credam a deo pio? A deo iusto? A deo scito? Cruciatus in crucem! Tuus in terra servus nuntius fui officium perfeci. Cruciatus in crucem. Eas in crucem!
 
2012-09-13 08:14:05 AM
Really? It was "and you get tax cuts, and you get tax cuts, and YOU get tax cuts . . ." for me.
 
2012-09-13 08:16:24 AM

SphericalTime: Really? It was "and you get tax cuts, and you get tax cuts, and YOU get tax cuts . . ." for me.


true, but the President really didn't come out swinging until Romney tried to drag him down with the attack on an embassy and then smiled as he talked about it
 
2012-09-13 08:18:47 AM
Ah, this one actually worked?

And victorious in war shall be made glorious in peace.
 
2012-09-13 08:20:19 AM

GAT_00: Ah, this one actually worked?

And victorious in war shall be made glorious in peace.


Apparently. You're still Josh
 
2012-09-13 08:23:04 AM
Is there any new information in this article, or is it a repeat from the big thread from yesterday?
 
2012-09-13 08:24:34 AM

somedude210: GAT_00: Ah, this one actually worked?

And victorious in war shall be made glorious in peace.

Apparently. You're still Josh


Excellent.
 
2012-09-13 08:26:43 AM

Rev. Skarekroe: Is there any new information in this article, or is it a repeat from the big thread from yesterday?


Crap...don't tell me that. You know how long it took me to get this damn headline greenlit? Don't ruin my moment
 
2012-09-13 08:35:39 AM
This is about the 4th greenlight on this story.
 
2012-09-13 08:40:08 AM

Walker: This is about the 4th greenlight on this story.


to be fair, there aren't a whole lot of political news coming out besides this
 
2012-09-13 08:50:50 AM

Walker: This is about the 4th greenlight on this story.


Based on what I've labeled you, I can see why you'd want this story to go away.
 
2012-09-13 08:55:35 AM
Plus 1 purely for the WW headline.

Love that episode.

/Let Obama be Obama.
 
2012-09-13 08:57:23 AM

somedude210: Four point two million new jobs, that wasn't good? Bailed out Europe, increased foreign trade, 30 million new acres of land for conservation, put Sotomayor on the bench, we're not fighting a war, I've raised two children... that's not enough to buy me out of the doghouse? Haec credam a deo pio? A deo iusto? A deo scito? Cruciatus in crucem! Tuus in terra servus nuntius fui officium perfeci. Cruciatus in crucem. Eas in crucem!


brilliant episode.
 
2012-09-13 09:00:26 AM

somedude210: Four point two million new jobs, that wasn't good? Bailed out Europe, increased foreign trade, 30 million new acres of land for conservation, put Sotomayor on the bench, we're not fighting a war, I've raised two children... that's not enough to buy me out of the doghouse? Haec credam a deo pio? A deo iusto? A deo scito? Cruciatus in crucem! Tuus in terra servus nuntius fui officium perfeci. Cruciatus in crucem. Eas in crucem!


Two Cathedrals is hands down my favorite WW episode EVAH. So thanks for that. Very, very nice.

/Am I to believe these things from a righteous god, a just god, a wise god?
 
2012-09-13 09:01:19 AM
I still prefer "I think we're talking about a .22 caliber mind in a .357 magnum world."
 
2012-09-13 09:21:11 AM
I was watching a television program before, with a kind of roving moderator who spoke to a seated panel of young women who were having some sort of problem with their boyfriends - apparently, because the boyfriends had all slept with the girlfriends' mothers. And they brought the boyfriends out, and they fought, right there on television. Toby, tell me: these people don't vote, do they?
 
2012-09-13 09:30:31 AM
West Wing reference in the headline!??? You just made my day, subby.

/WEST WING THREAD!!1!
//and there's 20 seconds of my life I don't CARE if I ever get back
 
2012-09-13 09:32:33 AM

somedude210: Rev. Skarekroe: Is there any new information in this article, or is it a repeat from the big thread from yesterday?

Crap...don't tell me that. You know how long it took me to get this damn headline greenlit? Don't ruin my moment


If it's a repeat, it deserves the [REPEAT] tag, because the headline is JUST TOO GOOD
 
2012-09-13 09:34:03 AM

xanadian: somedude210: Rev. Skarekroe: Is there any new information in this article, or is it a repeat from the big thread from yesterday?

Crap...don't tell me that. You know how long it took me to get this damn headline greenlit? Don't ruin my moment

If it's a repeat, it deserves the [REPEAT] tag, because the headline is JUST TOO GOOD


I don't think there are repeat tag in the choice when you submit. I think that's an Admin thing
 
2012-09-13 09:35:05 AM
wait, admin changed the link. Not really a repeat anymore. Awesome. Thanks Admin. I love you
 
vpb [TotalFark]
2012-09-13 09:35:58 AM

Walker: This is about the 4th greenlight on this story.


Well, there are many aspects to it. The fact that the statement Mittens was criticizing was made by the actual state department people who were being attacked WHILE they were being attacked hasn't really been covered yet for instance.

People will be talking about this through the end of the year. People will be bringing it up when they analyze Romney's defeat.
 
2012-09-13 09:52:08 AM

vpb: Walker: This is about the 4th greenlight on this story.

Well, there are many aspects to it. The fact that the statement Mittens was criticizing was made by the actual state department people who were being attacked WHILE they were being attacked hasn't really been covered yet for instance.

People will be talking about this through the end of the year. People will be bringing it up when they analyze Romney's defeat.


This. Ignoring Romney, there are probably a dozen angles (possible threads) to this story. It is a big deal.

With Romney's statement, there are at least 3 additional aspects to it. 1) how stupid it was 2) Obama's reaction 3) does Romney have a clue on foreign policy 4) impact to election
 
2012-09-13 09:54:28 AM

mrshowrules: vpb: Walker: This is about the 4th greenlight on this story.

Well, there are many aspects to it. The fact that the statement Mittens was criticizing was made by the actual state department people who were being attacked WHILE they were being attacked hasn't really been covered yet for instance.

People will be talking about this through the end of the year. People will be bringing it up when they analyze Romney's defeat.

This. Ignoring Romney, there are probably a dozen angles (possible threads) to this story. It is a big deal.

With Romney's statement, there are at least 3 additional aspects to it. 1) how stupid it was 2) Obama's reaction 3) does Romney have a clue on foreign policy 4) impact to election


There's a great piece on Politico (that the admins rejected last night) by Joe Scarborough that really tears Romney a new one about this and his campaign in general
 
2012-09-13 10:02:04 AM
I've been thinking for months that I'm waiting desperately for Obama to whip out the "Will you give it back please?" line in a Romney debate.
 
2012-09-13 10:12:49 AM

somedude210: xanadian: somedude210: Rev. Skarekroe: Is there any new information in this article, or is it a repeat from the big thread from yesterday?

Crap...don't tell me that. You know how long it took me to get this damn headline greenlit? Don't ruin my moment

If it's a repeat, it deserves the [REPEAT] tag, because the headline is JUST TOO GOOD

I don't think there are repeat tag in the choice when you submit. I think that's an Admin thing


That's what I meant. Instead of redlighting this thing, they need to keep it green and give it the repeat tag.
 
2012-09-13 10:15:20 AM

DamnYankees: I've been thinking for months that I'm waiting desperately for Obama to whip out the "Will you give it back please?" line in a Romney debate.


That's generally what the "Followup" tag is used for.

I agree though, we need this headline. This headline is more important than re-peat rules; I want to post now.
 
2012-09-13 10:17:03 AM

DamnYankees: DamnYankees: I've been thinking for months that I'm waiting desperately for Obama to whip out the "Will you give it back please?" line in a Romney debate.

That's generally what the "Followup" tag is used for.

I agree though, we need this headline. This headline is more important than re-peat rules; I want to post now.


it will, don't worry. and you quoted yourself
 
2012-09-13 10:17:16 AM

James F. Campbell: Walker: This is about the 4th greenlight on this story.

Based on what I've labeled you, I can see why you'd want this story to go away.


What have you labeled me?
 
2012-09-13 10:18:12 AM

Waxing_Chewbacca: Shadow Blasko: Waxing_Chewbacca: somedude210: BrotherJew: somedude210: GAT_00: And victorious in war shall be made glorious in peace.

BrotherJew: I approve of this headline.

I love it when I discover which farkers are TWW fans :D

/subby

Ditto. What's next?

Whoa whoa whoa. I'm Bartlett, you can be Leo. GAT is Josh

/Actually, I write more like Toby

Can I be Sam? I once accidentally slept with a prostitute.


I hate to stick my head in the lion's mouth, but I gotta ask you, were you the recording secretary of the Princeton Gilbert and Sullivan society for two years?

/I'll settle for being Will Bailey

No. But then again I'm not a woman.

/ thread won't go green but this is still amusing


boom, thread moved :D
 
2012-09-13 10:31:01 AM
um...Romney isn't really very smart, is he?
 
2012-09-13 10:41:37 AM
"I've said for three-and-a-half years the president doesn't care about national security. He doesn't think the world is terribly threatening," former U.S. Ambassador to the United Nations John Bolton,

encrypted-tbn0.google.com 

John Bolton is more of a threat to America than bin Laden.

/Because bin Laden is dead.
 
2012-09-13 10:47:31 AM
"I've said for three-and-a-half years the president doesn't care about national security. He doesn't think the world is terribly threatening," former U.S. Ambassador to the United Nations John Bolton, a Romney adviser, said Wednesday during an appearance on WMAL, a Washington D.C. conservative talk radio station.


jesus, mitt romney employs john bolton as an advisor? for non-mustache related issues?
 
2012-09-13 10:47:46 AM

Walker: James F. Campbell: Walker: This is about the 4th greenlight on this story.

Based on what I've labeled you, I can see why you'd want this story to go away.

What have you labeled me?


Ooh, ooh, let's guess. I'm going to go with some variation on "right-winger." Or whatever the current politically correct term is.
 
2012-09-13 10:50:28 AM

SphericalTime: Walker: James F. Campbell: Walker: This is about the 4th greenlight on this story.

Based on what I've labeled you, I can see why you'd want this story to go away.

What have you labeled me?

Ooh, ooh, let's guess. I'm going to go with some variation on "right-winger." Or whatever the current politically correct term is.


i've got him labeled as "jerk-off champion 2009" but i think i meant it as a compliment.

/doesn't really have him labeled
 
2012-09-13 10:52:01 AM

thomps: SphericalTime: Walker: James F. Campbell: Walker: This is about the 4th greenlight on this story.

Based on what I've labeled you, I can see why you'd want this story to go away.

What have you labeled me?

Ooh, ooh, let's guess. I'm going to go with some variation on "right-winger." Or whatever the current politically correct term is.

i've got him labeled as "jerk-off champion 2009" but i think i meant it as a compliment.

/doesn't really have him labeled


I think you should now
 
2012-09-13 10:52:11 AM

SphericalTime: Walker: James F. Campbell: Walker: This is about the 4th greenlight on this story.

Based on what I've labeled you, I can see why you'd want this story to go away.

What have you labeled me?

Ooh, ooh, let's guess. I'm going to go with some variation on "right-winger." Or whatever the current politically correct term is.


Well the joke's on him. I'm a liberal who has voted Democratic in every Presidential election since I've been able to vote. And that includes voting for Michael "Tank Boy" Dukakis. I voted for Obama in 2008 and will be voting for him again.
 
2012-09-13 10:56:21 AM

somedude210: thomps: SphericalTime: Walker: James F. Campbell: Walker: This is about the 4th greenlight on this story.

Based on what I've labeled you, I can see why you'd want this story to go away.

What have you labeled me?

Ooh, ooh, let's guess. I'm going to go with some variation on "right-winger." Or whatever the current politically correct term is.

i've got him labeled as "jerk-off champion 2009" but i think i meant it as a compliment.

/doesn't really have him labeled

I think you should now


done. but as collateral damage, you're also now favorited as jerk-off champion 2010. wear it with pride.
 
2012-09-13 11:03:50 AM

ignatius_crumbcake: I was watching a television program before, with a kind of roving moderator who spoke to a seated panel of young women who were having some sort of problem with their boyfriends - apparently, because the boyfriends had all slept with the girlfriends' mothers. And they brought the boyfriends out, and they fought, right there on television. Toby, tell me: these people don't vote, do they?


17 across. Yes, 17 across is wrong... You're spelling his name wrong... What's my name? My name doesn't matter. I am just an ordinary citizen who relies on the Times crossword for stimulation. And I'm telling you that I met the man twice. And I recommended a pre-emptive Exocet missile strike against his air force, so I think I know how...
 
2012-09-13 11:03:59 AM

thomps: somedude210: thomps: SphericalTime: Walker: James F. Campbell: Walker: This is about the 4th greenlight on this story.

Based on what I've labeled you, I can see why you'd want this story to go away.

What have you labeled me?

Ooh, ooh, let's guess. I'm going to go with some variation on "right-winger." Or whatever the current politically correct term is.

i've got him labeled as "jerk-off champion 2009" but i think i meant it as a compliment.

/doesn't really have him labeled

I think you should now

done. but as collateral damage, you're also now favorited as jerk-off champion 2010. wear it with pride.


pfft, I've been reigning champion for the last 3 years :D
 
2012-09-13 11:04:46 AM

God Is My Co-Pirate: ignatius_crumbcake: I was watching a television program before, with a kind of roving moderator who spoke to a seated panel of young women who were having some sort of problem with their boyfriends - apparently, because the boyfriends had all slept with the girlfriends' mothers. And they brought the boyfriends out, and they fought, right there on television. Toby, tell me: these people don't vote, do they?

17 across. Yes, 17 across is wrong... You're spelling his name wrong... What's my name? My name doesn't matter. I am just an ordinary citizen who relies on the Times crossword for stimulation. And I'm telling you that I met the man twice. And I recommended a pre-emptive Exocet missile strike against his air force, so I think I know how...


DAMNIT LEO! TELL ME HOW THIS ENDS!!
 
2012-09-13 11:13:06 AM

somedude210: God Is My Co-Pirate: ignatius_crumbcake: I was watching a television program before, with a kind of roving moderator who spoke to a seated panel of young women who were having some sort of problem with their boyfriends - apparently, because the boyfriends had all slept with the girlfriends' mothers. And they brought the boyfriends out, and they fought, right there on television. Toby, tell me: these people don't vote, do they?

17 across. Yes, 17 across is wrong... You're spelling his name wrong... What's my name? My name doesn't matter. I am just an ordinary citizen who relies on the Times crossword for stimulation. And I'm telling you that I met the man twice. And I recommended a pre-emptive Exocet missile strike against his air force, so I think I know how...

DAMNIT LEO! TELL ME HOW THIS ENDS!!


They hang up on me every time.
 
2012-09-13 11:32:57 AM

Rev. Skarekroe: Is there any new information in this article, or is it a repeat from the big thread from yesterday?

"I've said for three-and-a-half years the president doesn't care about national security. He doesn't think the world is terribly threatening," former U.S. Ambassador to the United Nations John Bolton, a Romney adviser, said Wednesday


I think this is new. But oh so predictable. All of the former Bush advisers trying to make everyone forget how awful they were.
 
2012-09-13 11:34:39 AM
"Well first, Governor, let me start by saying that 'Unfunded mandates' is actually two words, it's not just one big word..."
 
2012-09-13 11:37:32 AM
I like how all the wrong people show up to support Mitt. Bolton,Rumsfeld,Kristol and Kyl. It's the return of the neocons.
 
2012-09-13 11:37:32 AM

somedude210: Waxing_Chewbacca: Shadow Blasko: Waxing_Chewbacca: somedude210: BrotherJew: somedude210: GAT_00: And victorious in war shall be made glorious in peace.

BrotherJew: I approve of this headline.

I love it when I discover which farkers are TWW fans :D

/subby

Ditto. What's next?

Whoa whoa whoa. I'm Bartlett, you can be Leo. GAT is Josh

/Actually, I write more like Toby

Can I be Sam? I once accidentally slept with a prostitute.


I hate to stick my head in the lion's mouth, but I gotta ask you, were you the recording secretary of the Princeton Gilbert and Sullivan society for two years?

/I'll settle for being Will Bailey

No. But then again I'm not a woman.

/ thread won't go green but this is still amusing

boom, thread moved :D


Can I be Ed? I'd settle for Larry, but Ed is the cool one.
 
2012-09-13 11:37:38 AM
Every once in a while... every once in a while, there's a day with an absolute right and an absolute wrong, but those days almost always include body counts. Other than that, there aren't very many unnuanced moments in leading a country that's way too big for ten words. I'm the President of the United States, not the President of the people who agree with me. And by the way, if the left has a problem with that, they should vote for somebody else.
 
2012-09-13 11:44:12 AM
Well, I'm not going to negotiate with anyone who holds a gun to my head. We had a deal. I don't care if my approval ratings drop into single digits. I am the President of the United States, and I will leave the government shut down until we come to an equitable agreement
 
2012-09-13 11:44:54 AM
Does anybody really give a flying fark about Libya? Anybody? No? It's a bad neighborhood and bad things happen in bad neighborhood. I'm sorry the ambassador and his staff are dead, they deserve praise for doing a noble job in a dangerous place, maybe even a medal and state funeral.

Other then then that who gives a shiat?
 
2012-09-13 11:45:53 AM
Bill Kristol, the editor of the "Weekly Standard" and a critic of Romney's decision to overlook Afghanistan in his acceptance speech at last month's GOP convention, wrote on his blog that it's fair to question "the timing and tone" of Romney's statement Tuesday night.

When Bill Kristol says anything negative about his team, it's over.
 
2012-09-13 11:46:22 AM

ignatius_crumbcake: I was watching a television program before, with a kind of roving moderator who spoke to a seated panel of young women who were having some sort of problem with their boyfriends - apparently, because the boyfriends had all slept with the girlfriends' mothers. And they brought the boyfriends out, and they fought, right there on television. Toby, tell me: these people don't vote, do they?


No, no they don't.
 
2012-09-13 11:48:27 AM
Mr Romney has botched this campaign so badly that I'm waiting for him to channel former BP CEO Tony Hayward and let slip a "I want my life back" comment.
 
2012-09-13 11:50:32 AM
I'm beginning to suspect that somewhere this election season, someone came along and said:

"I'm tired of working for candidates who make me think that I should be embarrassed to believe what I believe, Sam! I'm tired of getting them elected! We all need some therapy, because somebody came along and said, "'Liberal' means soft on crime, soft on drugs, soft on Communism, soft on defense, and we're gonna tax you back to the Stone Age because people shouldn't have to go to work if they don't want to!" And instead of saying, "Well, excuse me, you right-wing, reactionary, xenophobic, homophobic, anti-education, anti-choice, pro-gun, Leave It To Beaver trip back to the Fifties...!", we cowered in the corner, and said, "Please. Don't. Hurt. Me." No more."
 
2012-09-13 11:55:07 AM
"I've said for three-and-a-half years the president doesn't care about national security. He doesn't think the world is terribly threatening," former U.S. Ambassador to the United Nations John Bolton

This man doesn't know what an Ambassador does.....which is why he is a former one. The NeoCons in the GOP place war mongers in these roles because of their close ties with DoD contractors. They want international relations in chaos because it makes them rich.
 
2012-09-13 11:55:20 AM

God Is My Co-Pirate: ignatius_crumbcake: I was watching a television program before, with a kind of roving moderator who spoke to a seated panel of young women who were having some sort of problem with their boyfriends - apparently, because the boyfriends had all slept with the girlfriends' mothers. And they brought the boyfriends out, and they fought, right there on television. Toby, tell me: these people don't vote, do they?

17 across. Yes, 17 across is wrong... You're spelling his name wrong... What's my name? My name doesn't matter. I am just an ordinary citizen who relies on the Times crossword for stimulation. And I'm telling you that I met the man twice. And I recommended a pre-emptive Exocet missile strike against his air force, so I think I know how...


That line always pissed me off. Exocets are anti-ship missiles.
 
2012-09-13 11:55:23 AM

Lando Lincoln: I think this is new. But oh so predictable. All of the former Bush advisers trying to make everyone forget how awful they were.


Hobodeluxe: I like how all the wrong people show up to support Mitt. Bolton,Rumsfeld,Kristol and Kyl. It's the return of the neocons.


You'd think they'd know better and just lay low so people can continue to forget their 8-year Cavalcade of FAIL. But I think their prosecution of the war in Iraq shows quite distinctly that these people do not, in any way shape or form, know better.
 
2012-09-13 11:57:20 AM

Hebjamn: Mr Romney has botched this campaign so badly that I'm waiting for him to channel former BP CEO Tony Hayward and let slip a "I want my life back" comment.


I think he really did expect to be able to waltz into the White House because he's rich, therefore God has favored him, and he's the White Horse spoken of in the prophecy. Little did he know that the hoi-polloi would actually rear up on their hind legs and question his lack of policies and dumbass statements.
 
2012-09-13 11:58:18 AM
Holy crap.

I am working from home and have the news on as background noise.

Mitt Romney is giving a campaign speech right now, and he's smiling and being glib while talking about the people who were killed in the attack, and just said "I would offer a moment of silence, but one gentleman doesn't want to be silent, so we'll just keep on going" while basking in people chanting his name.

Holy crap. I cannot believe I just saw/heard that.

This man is terrifying.
 
2012-09-13 12:00:18 PM

serpent_sky: Holy crap.

I am working from home and have the news on as background noise.

Mitt Romney is giving a campaign speech right now, and he's smiling and being glib while talking about the people who were killed in the attack, and just said "I would offer a moment of silence, but one gentleman doesn't want to be silent, so we'll just keep on going" while basking in people chanting his name.

Holy crap. I cannot believe I just saw/heard that.

This man is terrifying.


play that over and over and over again and the independents who aren't full of derp will realize just what they have to look forward with him

/haven't talked to my father about this yet
//If he agrees that Mitt is a terrible person and decides not to vote for him then we could be looking at Mondale levels of fail
///Mitt's Dukakis moment
 
2012-09-13 12:01:20 PM

serpent_sky: Holy crap.

I am working from home and have the news on as background noise.

Mitt Romney is giving a campaign speech right now, and he's smiling and being glib while talking about the people who were killed in the attack, and just said "I would offer a moment of silence, but one gentleman doesn't want to be silent, so we'll just keep on going" while basking in people chanting his name.

Holy crap. I cannot believe I just saw/heard that.

This man is terrifying.


In the Spring I predicted Romney's complete melt-down by August. I see now that I was off by a couple of weeks. I'm not sure if I want to slow down to look at this car accident.
 
2012-09-13 12:02:36 PM

Slaves2Darkness: Other then then that who gives a shiat?


then then? you mean than?

libya is important for several reasons. one, because it supplies a lot of oil to our trading partners in europe, italy especially. two, libya and its north african neighbors could be useful as moderate, democratic islamic nations when it comes time to stand up to iran (or saudi arabia). three, anytime people rise up against dictatorship, we have a moral duty to support them. and four, as with egypt, they are a new country - if we fail to support them in their infancy, they could deteriorate into a failed state and become a haven for terrorists.
 
2012-09-13 12:02:52 PM

serpent_sky: Mitt Romney is giving a campaign speech right now, and he's smiling and being glib while talking about the people who were killed in the attack, and just said "I would offer a moment of silence, but one gentleman doesn't want to be silent, so we'll just keep on going" while basking in people chanting his name.


Wow. Just wow.

We're seeing an implosion on a national scale. And it's all because Romney is being Romney.
 
2012-09-13 12:04:33 PM

theorellior: serpent_sky: Mitt Romney is giving a campaign speech right now, and he's smiling and being glib while talking about the people who were killed in the attack, and just said "I would offer a moment of silence, but one gentleman doesn't want to be silent, so we'll just keep on going" while basking in people chanting his name.

Wow. Just wow.

We're seeing an implosion on a national scale. And it's all because Romney is being Romney.


I will be very sad if the implosion hits hard enough to make him not go to the debates.
 
2012-09-13 12:06:36 PM
Schake, who also served on George W. Bush's National Security Council. "That said, the president's leadership has been deficient in aligning America with the forces of democratic change in the Middle East."

In what way?
 
2012-09-13 12:06:49 PM

sprawl15: I will be very sad if the implosion hits hard enough to make him not go to the debates.


if that happens then we will be looking at a Mondale level ass kicking
 
2012-09-13 12:07:25 PM

theknuckler_33: Schake, who also served on George W. Bush's National Security Council. "That said, the president's leadership has been deficient in aligning America with the forces of democratic change in the Middle East."

In what way?


in the non-invasion-y way
 
2012-09-13 12:09:42 PM

sprawl15: I will be very sad if the implosion hits hard enough to make him not go to the debates.


I was expecting the implosion to happen at the debates. Specifically, I wanted to see Romney get a beat-down from the Secret Service on national television as he attempts to wrap his fingers around the president's throat for trolling him.
 
2012-09-13 12:10:39 PM

somedude210: in the non-invasion-y way


In the non-kickbacky, lack-of-sweetheart-deals and pallets-of-airdropped-cash way.
 
2012-09-13 12:13:20 PM

theorellior: sprawl15: I will be very sad if the implosion hits hard enough to make him not go to the debates.

I was expecting the implosion to happen at the debates. Specifically, I wanted to see Romney get a beat-down from the Secret Service on national television as he attempts to wrap his fingers around the president's throat for trolling him.


I actually think Obama is probably fit enough to defend himself in the incredibly unlikely event that such a thing happens.

I *do* thin Obama is gonna make him go stupid, because damn, Romney does not like people contradicting him, but... probably not THAT stupid.
 
2012-09-13 12:14:04 PM

theorellior: sprawl15: I will be very sad if the implosion hits hard enough to make him not go to the debates.

I was expecting the implosion to happen at the debates. Specifically, I wanted to see Romney get a beat-down from the Secret Service on national television as he attempts to wrap his fingers around the president's throat for trolling him.


In fairness, I would have to side with Romney if he did that. No one has ever been trolled that hard before.
 
2012-09-13 12:15:18 PM
cpost.uchicago.edu
cpost.uchicago.edu
cpost.uchicago.edu,

cpost.uchicago.edu
cpost.uchicago.edu
cpost.uchicago.edu,

www.pit5.com,
www.pit5.com
 
2012-09-13 12:16:03 PM

Citrate1007: "I've said for three-and-a-half years the president doesn't care about national security. He doesn't think the world is terribly threatening," former U.S. Ambassador to the United Nations John Bolton

This man doesn't know what an Ambassador does.....which is why he is a former one. The NeoCons in the GOP place war mongers in these roles because of their close ties with DoD contractors. They want international relations in chaos because it makes them rich.


John Bolton was the perfect ambassador for the neocons to the UN - he'd written several times about how silly the UN was, how ineffective, how it should bend to the will of the US...

He believes that the answer to every problem is "a show of US military might". He'd (Godwin) fit right in with the Wehrmacht, crushing neighboring countries just because they need to know we're the big kid on the block.

Of course, they royally farked up when the opportunity for a real huge show of force they were handed on a silver platter was instead turned into a too-small, ill-equipped force that ended up stuck fighting both sides of a civil war. We got no show of force (because ragtag groups of insurgents were taking our territory, necessitating creating the Green Zone, which we also couldn't secure), no display of American might (especially considering we couldn't finish TWO conflicts).

And then Obama (not really, under Obama's watch) had the Arab Spring, where it wasn't the US benevolently replacing their leadership with "democratically (s)elected locals" in a huge show of American power and military might, it was the locals displacing their leadership and finding their own replacements without US help (except Libya, and that was NATO).

All of this should have resulted in John Bolton feeling the repeated kicks to the scrotum the universe keeps sending his way, but apparently "Emptysack" Bolton is more than a cute nickname.
 
2012-09-13 12:16:35 PM

quatchi: Plus 1 purely for the WW headline.

Love that episode.

/Let Obama be Obama.


If it's the President, in his last campaign, his last debate, for the last job he'll ever have...if the President shows up, I think it'll be a sight to see, I mean a sight to see. What do you think?
 
2012-09-13 12:16:42 PM

serpent_sky: Mitt Romney is giving a campaign speech right now, and he's smiling and being glib while talking about the people who were killed in the attack, and just said "I would offer a moment of silence, but one gentleman doesn't want to be silent, so we'll just keep on going" while basking in people chanting his name.


i have a deep and visceral hatred for this man that i've never experienced with any other politician. i do believe that sarah palin is an appalling woman who represents everything wrong with america at the beginning of the 21st century - but romney... romney is just farking evil.
 
2012-09-13 12:18:37 PM
I don't understand the "Libya, boy, I dunno" reference. I googled it and the only result was this thread.

Please explain? Thanks!
 
2012-09-13 12:20:01 PM

Felgraf: theorellior: sprawl15: I will be very sad if the implosion hits hard enough to make him not go to the debates.

I was expecting the implosion to happen at the debates. Specifically, I wanted to see Romney get a beat-down from the Secret Service on national television as he attempts to wrap his fingers around the president's throat for trolling him.

I actually think Obama is probably fit enough to defend himself in the incredibly unlikely event that such a thing happens.

I *do* thin Obama is gonna make him go stupid, because damn, Romney does not like people contradicting him, but... probably not THAT stupid.


I give it even odds of happening if Obama points out that he has more Presidential experience than Romney.
 
2012-09-13 12:21:52 PM

StopLurkListen: I don't understand the "Libya, boy, I dunno" reference. I googled it and the only result was this thread.

Please explain? Thanks!


It's a reference to Pres. Bartlett in a debate with his GOP rival.

Until that point, Bartlett hadn't been entirely sure that he was ready to go out there and win it, but then his rival says something that slips my mind 'something something, boy, I don't know'....Some folksy bullshiat like Bush jr would say...
 
2012-09-13 12:21:57 PM

StopLurkListen: I don't understand the "Libya, boy, I dunno" reference. I googled it and the only result was this thread.

Please explain? Thanks!

 

Crime, boy I dunno.
 
2012-09-13 12:22:01 PM

FlashHarry: i have a deep and visceral hatred for this man that i've never experienced with any other politician. i do believe that sarah palin is an appalling woman who represents everything wrong with america at the beginning of the 21st century - but romney... romney is just farking evil.


Comparing the two is like comparing a two-bit grifter with Lex Luthor. There are orders of magnitude between their activities.
 
2012-09-13 12:22:08 PM

StopLurkListen: I don't understand the "Libya, boy, I dunno" reference. I googled it and the only result was this thread.

Please explain? Thanks!


Link

enjoy
 
2012-09-13 12:22:46 PM

FlashHarry: serpent_sky: Mitt Romney is giving a campaign speech right now, and he's smiling and being glib while talking about the people who were killed in the attack, and just said "I would offer a moment of silence, but one gentleman doesn't want to be silent, so we'll just keep on going" while basking in people chanting his name.

i have a deep and visceral hatred for this man that i've never experienced with any other politician. i do believe that sarah palin is an appalling woman who represents everything wrong with america at the beginning of the 21st century - but romney... romney is just farking evil.


All the rightwingers who lost their minds over Obama's choice of mustard will naturally ignore Romney smiling repeatedly during a somber conference and walking away with a big smile. They will claim its libs unfairly attacking Romney over something insignficant.

Its predictable and vile of them.
 
2012-09-13 12:23:15 PM

StopLurkListen: I don't understand the "Libya, boy, I dunno" reference. I googled it and the only result was this thread.

Please explain? Thanks!


The original line is "Crime, boy, I dunno"
Link
 
2012-09-13 12:23:55 PM

Felgraf: I *do* think Obama is gonna make him go stupid, because damn, Romney does not like people contradicting him, but... probably not THAT stupid.


I'm thinking there's a small but definitely non-zero chance that Romney will have a buffer overflow and just go stark raving bugfark.
 
2012-09-13 12:26:10 PM

StopLurkListen: I don't understand the "Libya, boy, I dunno" reference. I googled it and the only result was this thread.

Please explain? Thanks!


There once was a show called "The West Wing". It was written by a brilliant man named Aaron Sorkin*, and it was about the inner workings of the President of the United States and his staff.

At one point, the President is talking to the man running against him, and he's very shaken up because a secret service officer was just killed in a random shooting.

The man running against the president says "Crime boy. I don't know".

The President realizes that the man running against him is an utter buffoon, and although he's tired and isn't sure he even still WANTS to be president, he realizes that he simply cannot let this man be the leader of the free world.

So he says, "In the future, if you're wondering, 'Crime. Boy. I don't know' was when I decided to kick your ass".

*sadly Aaron Sorkin got used to be told he was brilliant, and now writes utter crap.
 
2012-09-13 12:27:06 PM

carrion_luggage: [cpost.uchicago.edu image 300x360]
[cpost.uchicago.edu image 300x360]
[cpost.uchicago.edu image 300x360],

[cpost.uchicago.edu image 300x360]
[cpost.uchicago.edu image 300x360]
[cpost.uchicago.edu image 300x360],

[www.pit5.com image 299x300],
[www.pit5.com image 299x300]


Thanks for the earworm.
 
2012-09-13 12:27:44 PM

StopLurkListen: I don't understand the "Libya, boy, I dunno" reference. I googled it and the only result was this thread.

Please explain? Thanks!


I don't understand it either but I was too cool to ask myself.
 
2012-09-13 12:28:59 PM

StopLurkListen: I don't understand the "Libya, boy, I dunno" reference. I googled it and the only result was this thread.

Please explain? Thanks!


Season 3 finale of The West Wing - President Bartlet and (Republican nominee) Governor Ritchie are backstage at an event talking when Bartlet shares the fact that he's shaken by a character had been killed earlier in the episode in a botched convenience store hold-up. Ritchie responds to the story by saying "crime, boy, I don't know..." in a rather dismissive tone before changing the subject to those problems he has with Bartlet, and the two exchange barbs on what they think the others failures are. When it's time for him to enter the performance Bartlet leaves, but not before saying the phrase in the headline (except substituting "crime" for Libya), signalling that his contempt for Ritchie had gotten to a personal level.
 
2012-09-13 12:30:06 PM
Easily my favorite post from the primaries:

i258.photobucket.com
 
2012-09-13 12:30:14 PM

what_now: *sadly Aaron Sorkin got used to be told he was brilliant, and now writes utter crap.


Thanks for the explanation. Only ever saw clips of West Wing but he still has moments of brilliance in Newsroom. The filler between those moments is very lame though.
 
2012-09-13 12:30:21 PM

Grungehamster: StopLurkListen: I don't understand the "Libya, boy, I dunno" reference. I googled it and the only result was this thread.

Please explain? Thanks!

Season 3 finale of The West Wing - President Bartlet and (Republican nominee) Governor Ritchie are backstage at an event talking when Bartlet shares the fact that he's shaken by a character had been killed earlier in the episode in a botched convenience store hold-up. Ritchie responds to the story by saying "crime, boy, I don't know..." in a rather dismissive tone before changing the subject to those problems he has with Bartlet, and the two exchange barbs on what they think the others failures are. When it's time for him to enter the performance Bartlet leaves, but not before saying the phrase in the headline (except substituting "crime" for Libya), signalling that his contempt for Ritchie had gotten to a personal level.


I couldn't have explained it better
 
2012-09-13 12:34:52 PM
John Bolton - Just barely relevant enough to appear on AM Talk Radio to throw firebombs inbetweenst Herbalife and Cash For Gold commercials to an audience of chronically unemployed illiterate long haul truckers.
 
2012-09-13 12:38:00 PM
"I think a weak reaction, a failure to demonstrate American power and resolve, will help see this stretch throughout the region... I come back to Tehran in 1979, that if we're not careful here, we're going to see a repetition of that crisis which of course was a major factor contributing to the destruction of the Jimmy Carter administration," Bolton added.

You mean the armed response that had mechanical difficulties and got downed in a sandstorm, or the imaginary lack of response that people keep inventing for Carter? Pleas elaborate...
 
2012-09-13 12:39:10 PM
Maybe President Obama can have a beer summit with Amb. Stevens' widow and his killers. Kaliber for the murderers, of course -- we wouldn't want to offend.
 
2012-09-13 12:40:34 PM
Thanks for the explanation and links, everyone!
 
2012-09-13 12:43:58 PM

Felgraf: theorellior: sprawl15: I will be very sad if the implosion hits hard enough to make him not go to the debates.

I was expecting the implosion to happen at the debates. Specifically, I wanted to see Romney get a beat-down from the Secret Service on national television as he attempts to wrap his fingers around the president's throat for trolling him.

I actually think Obama is probably fit enough to defend himself in the incredibly unlikely event that such a thing happens.

I *do* thin Obama is gonna make him go stupid, because damn, Romney does not like people contradicting him, but... probably not THAT stupid.


I can see Obama sidestepping and helping him fall to the ground, then do the 'brush dust off my shoulder' move.
 
2012-09-13 12:47:26 PM

Mikey1969: "I think a weak reaction, a failure to demonstrate American power and resolve, will help see this stretch throughout the region... I come back to Tehran in 1979, that if we're not careful here, we're going to see a repetition of that crisis which of course was a major factor contributing to the destruction of the Jimmy Carter administration," Bolton added.

You mean the armed response that had mechanical difficulties and got downed in a sandstorm, or the imaginary lack of response that people keep inventing for Carter? Pleas elaborate...


I and one of my older colleagues disagree on a number of things when it comes to politics and public policy, but one thing we agree on is that if that storm hadn't downed that team, the last 30 years would have been very, very different.
 
2012-09-13 12:48:20 PM

carrion_luggage: Maybe President Obama can have a beer summit with Amb. Stevens' widow and his killers. Kaliber for the murderers, of course -- we wouldn't want to offend.


And there's another dumbfark heard from.
 
2012-09-13 12:50:49 PM
www.csicon.org

Oh wait, he's making Obama look bad? Clearly Captain America is a Racist Nazi.
 
2012-09-13 12:51:06 PM

TheBeastOfYuccaFlats: Mikey1969: "I think a weak reaction, a failure to demonstrate American power and resolve, will help see this stretch throughout the region... I come back to Tehran in 1979, that if we're not careful here, we're going to see a repetition of that crisis which of course was a major factor contributing to the destruction of the Jimmy Carter administration," Bolton added.

You mean the armed response that had mechanical difficulties and got downed in a sandstorm, or the imaginary lack of response that people keep inventing for Carter? Pleas elaborate...

I and one of my older colleagues disagree on a number of things when it comes to politics and public policy, but one thing we agree on is that if that storm hadn't downed that team, the last 30 years would have been very, very different.


Also, if Regan hadn't been going behind the state departments back negotiating with the terrorists at the time.

What's the over under on a GOP super PAC being behind the video and it's 9/11 promotion?
 
2012-09-13 12:52:16 PM

TheBeastOfYuccaFlats: Mikey1969: "I think a weak reaction, a failure to demonstrate American power and resolve, will help see this stretch throughout the region... I come back to Tehran in 1979, that if we're not careful here, we're going to see a repetition of that crisis which of course was a major factor contributing to the destruction of the Jimmy Carter administration," Bolton added.

You mean the armed response that had mechanical difficulties and got downed in a sandstorm, or the imaginary lack of response that people keep inventing for Carter? Pleas elaborate...

I and one of my older colleagues disagree on a number of things when it comes to politics and public policy, but one thing we agree on is that if that storm hadn't downed that team, the last 30 years would have been very, very different.


I tried to read a World War III novel that was written in the late 70s. It was sort of a proto-Tom Clancy book. The geopolitics were so vastly different I couldn't relate at all and gave up on it. The author kept referring to events in Carter's second term.
 
2012-09-13 12:53:33 PM

beta_plus: [www.csicon.org image 643x433]

Oh wait, he's making Obama look bad? Clearly Captain America is a Racist Nazi.


wondering how long it'd take you to show up and make a stupid comment
 
2012-09-13 12:55:02 PM

somedude210: beta_plus: [www.csicon.org image 643x433]

Oh wait, he's making Obama look bad? Clearly Captain America is a Racist Nazi.

wondering how long it'd take you to show up and make a stupid comment


Every time it logs on?
 
2012-09-13 12:55:02 PM

Antimatter: What's the over under on a GOP super PAC being behind the video and it's 9/11 promotion?


well I already thought that this was gonna trace back to Romney somehow (why else would he be smiling?) I'd give it a week before the first debate it comes out that either Romney or a GOP superPAC sent this out
 
2012-09-13 12:55:05 PM

theorellior: Felgraf: I *do* think Obama is gonna make him go stupid, because damn, Romney does not like people contradicting him, but... probably not THAT stupid.

I'm thinking there's a small but definitely non-zero chance that Romney will have a buffer overflow and just go stark raving bugfark.


I'd put the odds of that a lot higher than you'd think. Maybe... 7-1? A 12.5% chance of it happening? I can easily get behind that action. Mitt's not used to people correcting him.

And to pull this back to The West Wing, there's a plot line in the reelection episode where it looks like Bartlet is going to win the election but lose New Hampshire, and he's upset, because those are his people. Romney's most likely not only going to lose the state where he was governor, but also the state where his father was governor. That's got to sting a bit.
 
2012-09-13 12:57:18 PM
4.bp.blogspot.com

"Non-existent diplomatic security at an interim facility in a known Al Qadea stronghold on the anniversary of 9/11 resulting in the death of the U.S. Ambassador, boy, I dunno."
 
2012-09-13 12:59:46 PM

carrion_luggage: [4.bp.blogspot.com image 850x602]

"Non-existent diplomatic security at an interim facility in a known Al Qadea stronghold on the anniversary of 9/11 resulting in the death of the U.S. Ambassador, boy, I dunno."


Are you under the impression that nations can station whatever military forces they desire at consulates?
 
2012-09-13 01:00:20 PM

FlashHarry: i have a deep and visceral hatred for this man that i've never experienced with any other politician. i do believe that sarah palin is an appalling woman who represents everything wrong with america at the beginning of the 21st century - but romney... romney is just farking evil.


I really am disinclined to call people "evil" like that, but I think I agree with you. I'm honestly chilled by what I saw earlier when he was campaigning and made a brief mention of the crisis in Libya. He was smug and self-satisfied, basking in the glow of people chanting his name.

Most politicians have huge egos and varying motives for running for office, but I honestly think he is running for President simply because he can, and he wants to be President. I don't think he knows why he wants to be President beyond it being something he hasn't done yet. He scares me terribly, particularly because there are people who will actually vote for him.
 
2012-09-13 01:00:33 PM

TheBeastOfYuccaFlats: Mikey1969: "I think a weak reaction, a failure to demonstrate American power and resolve, will help see this stretch throughout the region... I come back to Tehran in 1979, that if we're not careful here, we're going to see a repetition of that crisis which of course was a major factor contributing to the destruction of the Jimmy Carter administration," Bolton added.

You mean the armed response that had mechanical difficulties and got downed in a sandstorm, or the imaginary lack of response that people keep inventing for Carter? Pleas elaborate...

I and one of my older colleagues disagree on a number of things when it comes to politics and public policy, but one thing we agree on is that if that storm hadn't downed that team, the last 30 years would have been very, very different.


I was 10 when that happened, but from when I first heard abut it, I've been trying to figure out the 'Carter never responded' crowd. They seem to have morphed into the current Republican Party, where anything is true, merely because a Republican stated it, and facts be damned.

And yeah, I can't even imagine how different things would be, had Reagan not gotten so lucky(And had he not pulled backroom shenanigans with Iran).
 
2012-09-13 01:04:56 PM

kudayta: God Is My Co-Pirate: ignatius_crumbcake: I was watching a television program before, with a kind of roving moderator who spoke to a seated panel of young women who were having some sort of problem with their boyfriends - apparently, because the boyfriends had all slept with the girlfriends' mothers. And they brought the boyfriends out, and they fought, right there on television. Toby, tell me: these people don't vote, do they?

17 across. Yes, 17 across is wrong... You're spelling his name wrong... What's my name? My name doesn't matter. I am just an ordinary citizen who relies on the Times crossword for stimulation. And I'm telling you that I met the man twice. And I recommended a pre-emptive Exocet missile strike against his air force, so I think I know how...

That line always pissed me off. Exocets are anti-ship missiles.


They're also French, and the US never bought any. Now, one could argue that Leo had recommended that the UK (or another ally) make the strike, but that's about as far as I can explain it. It bothers me, too.
 
2012-09-13 01:12:10 PM
FTA: "Governor Romney seems to have a tendency to shoot first and aim later," Obama said. "And as president, one of the things I've learned is you can't do that-it's important for you to make sure that the statements that you make are backed up by the facts and that you've thought through the ramifications before you make them."

oh snap dot jpeg!
 
2012-09-13 01:14:49 PM
This "weak" Obama who is the same guy Republicans were crying about a year ago about his action in Libya saying he didn't have authority to use force and we should stay out of it right?


Just checking.
 
2012-09-13 01:16:13 PM
America needs a real foreign policy expert like Mitt Romney in the White House. Just imagine what Mitt would do to rebuild trust and respect for America throughout the Muslim world.

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2012-09-13 01:17:29 PM
The fact that Romney has that walrus-looking motherfarker Bolton as a foreign policy advisor pretty much immediately disqualifies him from being President, at least in my mind.
 
2012-09-13 01:18:52 PM

thisispete: somedude210: Waxing_Chewbacca: Shadow Blasko: Waxing_Chewbacca: somedude210: BrotherJew: somedude210: GAT_00: And victorious in war shall be made glorious in peace.

BrotherJew: I approve of this headline.

I love it when I discover which farkers are TWW fans :D

/subby

Ditto. What's next?

Whoa whoa whoa. I'm Bartlett, you can be Leo. GAT is Josh

/Actually, I write more like Toby

Can I be Sam? I once accidentally slept with a prostitute.


I hate to stick my head in the lion's mouth, but I gotta ask you, were you the recording secretary of the Princeton Gilbert and Sullivan society for two years?

/I'll settle for being Will Bailey

No. But then again I'm not a woman.

/ thread won't go green but this is still amusing

boom, thread moved :D

Can I be Ed? I'd settle for Larry, but Ed is the cool one.


I want to be CJ, but truth is, I'm probably more like Donna.
 
2012-09-13 01:21:21 PM

mesmer242: thisispete: somedude210: Waxing_Chewbacca: Shadow Blasko: Waxing_Chewbacca: somedude210: BrotherJew: somedude210: GAT_00: And victorious in war shall be made glorious in peace.

BrotherJew: I approve of this headline.

I love it when I discover which farkers are TWW fans :D

/subby

Ditto. What's next?

Whoa whoa whoa. I'm Bartlett, you can be Leo. GAT is Josh

/Actually, I write more like Toby

Can I be Sam? I once accidentally slept with a prostitute.


I hate to stick my head in the lion's mouth, but I gotta ask you, were you the recording secretary of the Princeton Gilbert and Sullivan society for two years?

/I'll settle for being Will Bailey

No. But then again I'm not a woman.

/ thread won't go green but this is still amusing

boom, thread moved :D

Can I be Ed? I'd settle for Larry, but Ed is the cool one.

I want to be CJ, but truth is, I'm probably more like Donna.


Donna becomes the FLOTUS Chief of Staff, which is a position that requires significant competency in this day and age. Nothing to sneeze at.
 
2012-09-13 01:24:17 PM

Slaves2Darkness: Does anybody really give a flying fark about Libya? Anybody? No? It's a bad neighborhood and bad things happen in bad neighborhood. I'm sorry the ambassador and his staff are dead, they deserve praise for doing a noble job in a dangerous place, maybe even a medal and state funeral.

Other then then that who gives a shiat?


Yemen, apparently.

/Main tab. Go read.
//This is the end result of us sticking our dick in the ME for years and the thousands of deaths we caused in Afghanistan and Iraq. We farked up, and we're reaping the end result. It's horrifying, but it's not going to stay isolated.
 
2012-09-13 01:30:45 PM

Mocknews: America needs a real foreign policy expert like Mitt Romney in the White House. Just imagine what Mitt would do to rebuild trust and respect for America throughout the Muslim world.

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If memory serves, the offense is derrived from showing the bottom of the shoe, not the top.

Per wiki: Displaying the sole of one's foot or touching somebody with one's shoe is often considered rude. This includes sitting with one's feet or foot elevated. In some circumstances, shoes should be removed before entering a living room.
 
2012-09-13 01:33:37 PM

TheBeastOfYuccaFlats: mesmer242: thisispete: somedude210: Waxing_Chewbacca: Shadow Blasko: Waxing_Chewbacca: somedude210: BrotherJew: somedude210: GAT_00:

Can I be Ed? I'd settle for Larry, but Ed is the cool one.

I want to be CJ, but truth is, I'm probably more like Donna.

Donna becomes the FLOTUS Chief of Staff, which is a position that requires significant competency in this day and age. Nothing to sneeze at.


She had soooo many years of being clueless and flaky prior to that, though, that I'll always see her like that.
 
2012-09-13 01:43:34 PM
WHY IS THIS SHOW NOT ON NETFLIX STREAMING?!

Crikey. Someone in the rights-holding company has their head up their ass.

/ unless it's there now... been a few months since I checked
// too bad there's no other way to get it... yup, noooo other way...
 
2012-09-13 01:46:29 PM

SFSailor: WHY IS THIS SHOW NOT ON NETFLIX STREAMING?!

Crikey. Someone in the rights-holding company has their head up their ass.

/ unless it's there now... been a few months since I checked
// too bad there's no other way to get it... yup, noooo other way...


Not there as far as I can see.
 
2012-09-13 01:48:58 PM

Philip Francis Queeg: Are you under the impression that nations can station whatever military forces they desire at consulates?


Um. Yes. Consulates are part of US territory.

This is INDEED a good question. It won't get asked though, because Romney's a smirking mother farker.
 
2012-09-13 01:55:22 PM

what_now: Philip Francis Queeg: Are you under the impression that nations can station whatever military forces they desire at consulates?

Um. Yes. Consulates are part of US territory.

This is INDEED a good question. It won't get asked though, because Romney's a smirking mother farker.


Um, no they are not part of the territory of the country using the consulate. Many consulates are rented office space.

Do you believe that if the Russian Consulate in LA desired to station a brigade of special forces there, and for the Consul to be transported in a heavily armed APC that the US would be compelled to allow it?
 
2012-09-13 01:58:14 PM

quatchi: Plus 1 purely for the WW headline.

Love that episode.

/Let Obama be Obama.


Plus 1 for this person's Plus 1.
Thanks for the memories, headline-writer!

/babies come with hats.
 
2012-09-13 02:06:12 PM
It is Fark threads like this one that prompted me to lose an entire day to watching WW clips on youtube, only to go out an buy the entire series on DVD

/here's to hoping that Romney just bought his ticket to Mandyville
 
2012-09-13 02:07:00 PM
i54.photobucket.com
 
2012-09-13 02:07:39 PM

Huck And Molly Ziegler: /babies come with hats.


Love the user name. I felt compelled to give the "I don't mean to alarm you, but I'm your Dad" speech to my daughter in the NICU...
 
2012-09-13 02:14:59 PM

EighthDay: Not there as far as I can see.


Just don't get it. It's old. There's plenty of old tv shows on there, so it's not like that's different. It's political. There's plenty of political material on there.

It really should be on there. YouTube clip hopping is unsatisfying, and I don't like having to choose between "be criminal" and "can't watch something that should be readily available."

Really wonder what the hangup is.

I mean, seriously... "A SECWET PWAN TO FIGHT INFWATION?!" That's just gold.

And if there's any Farker who hasn't seen Josh getting trolled and try to fight a flamewar...

"What Josh doesn't know is that some of these people haven't taken their medication..."

"SO FAR UP YOUR ASS!"

Yeah, it's clipped together by an over-eager YouTuber, but still. Almost willing to bet there was a Farker in the writing room.
 
2012-09-13 02:19:22 PM
Keep talking Mitt. Just keep talking.

At this point, it's like watching Persians being drawn out to attack a retreating line of infantry, and suddenly realizing after they get there, that the cavalry has encircled them. He KEEPS running his mouth, instead of actually considering what to say before he gets the podium.

If the man can't even keep discipline in a campaign like this, how in the Hells do we expect him to actually run our government? Don't get me wrong, he has a lot of folks who stay on message, even when faced with idiocy at the podium, but there is a difference in backing your man no matter how stupid he gets, and actually leading. The shills are paid to generate support, but that is different than actually running the government, and having policies that work. There is a point where even a captive press has to look at a candidate and objectively assess their policies.
 
2012-09-13 02:26:10 PM

hubiestubert: At this point, it's like watching Persians being drawn out to attack a retreating line of infantry, and suddenly realizing after they get there, that the cavalry has encircled them. He KEEPS running his mouth, instead of actually considering what to say before he gets the podium.


More like the Battle of Cannae.

Complete with an African pincer.
 
2012-09-13 02:26:12 PM
I read this in the Illusive Man's voice....
 
2012-09-13 02:28:34 PM

Huck And Molly Ziegler: quatchi: Plus 1 purely for the WW headline.

Love that episode.

/Let Obama be Obama.

Plus 1 for this person's Plus 1.
Thanks for the memories, headline-writer!

/babies come with hats.


thank you kindly. I quite enjoyed writing this headline

/subby
 
2012-09-13 02:32:40 PM

EighthDay: SFSailor: WHY IS THIS SHOW NOT ON NETFLIX STREAMING?!

Crikey. Someone in the rights-holding company has their head up their ass.

/ unless it's there now... been a few months since I checked
// too bad there's no other way to get it... yup, noooo other way...

Not there as far as I can see.


Amazon Streaming has it.

WB has always been stupid with licensing, though.
 
2012-09-13 02:33:34 PM

Slaves2Darkness: Does anybody really give a flying fark about Libya? Anybody? No? It's a bad neighborhood and bad things happen in bad neighborhood. I'm sorry the ambassador and his staff are dead, they deserve praise for doing a noble job in a dangerous place, maybe even a medal and state funeral.

Other then then that who gives a shiat?


You sound unconcerned.
 
2012-09-13 02:38:50 PM

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+1 Internets to you.
 
2012-09-13 02:41:11 PM
images.politico.com

NOW Hillary knows how Obama would handle that "call at 3 AM".

Answer: LIKE A BOSS!!
 
2012-09-13 02:41:47 PM
Well done Subby!
 
2012-09-13 02:48:02 PM

beta_plus: [www.csicon.org image 643x433]

Oh wait, he's making Obama look bad? Clearly Captain America is a Racist Nazi.


The Red Skull's voting for Romney.
 
2012-09-13 02:51:52 PM

beta_plus: [www.csicon.org image 643x433]

Oh wait, he's making Obama look bad? Clearly Captain America is a Racist Nazi.


Yes, let's all take our political views from a grown man who writes cartoons based on someone else's characters for a living.
 
2012-09-13 03:10:39 PM

what_now: Philip Francis Queeg: Are you under the impression that nations can station whatever military forces they desire at consulates?

Um. Yes. Consulates are part of US territory.

This is INDEED a good question. It won't get asked though, because Romney's a smirking mother farker.


I'm not an international lawyer but the wiki tells me....

Contrary to popular belief, diplomatic missions do not enjoy full extraterritorial status and are not sovereign territory of the represented state.[5][6] Rather, the premises of diplomatic missions remain under the jurisdiction of the host state while being afforded special privileges (such as immunity from most local laws) by the Vienna Convention on Diplomatic Relations. Diplomats themselves still retain full diplomatic immunity, and (as an adherent to the Vienna Convention) the host country may not enter the premises of the mission without permission of the represented country. The term "extraterritoriality," therefore, is often used in this broader sense when applied to diplomatic missions.

But back on topic....

Bartlet: Apparently, I've arranged for an honor guard for somebody.
Toby: Yes, sir. I'm sorry.
Bartlet: No no. Just tell me, is there anything else I've arranged for? We're still in NATO right?
Toby: Yes, sir.
Bartlet: What's going on?
Toby: A homeless man died last night; a Korean War veteran, who was wearing a coat that I gave to the Goodwill. It had my card in it.
Bartlet: Toby, you're not responsible for ...
Toby: An hour and twenty minutes for the ambulance to get there. A Lance Corporal, United States Marine Corps, Second of the Seventh. The guy got better treatment at Panmunjom.
Bartlet: Toby, if we start pulling strings like this, you don't think every homeless veteran would come out of the woodworks?
Toby: I can only hope, sir.
 
2012-09-13 03:12:40 PM

TheBeastOfYuccaFlats: Amazon Streaming has it.

WB has always been stupid with licensing, though.


Huh. (a) Always curious how things like that wind up happening. (b) That Kindle Fire HD 4G is looking more and more interesting. And, of course, (c) Thanks! The battle of "information wants to be free" vs. "it takes money to make that information, dumbass!" leads to interesting skirmishes and unquiet peaces, I guess.

somedude210: thank you kindly. I quite enjoyed writing this headline

/subby


Nicely done.
 
2012-09-13 03:38:26 PM
 
2012-09-13 03:40:47 PM

EighthDay: SFSailor: WHY IS THIS SHOW NOT ON NETFLIX STREAMING?!

Crikey. Someone in the rights-holding company has their head up their ass.

/ unless it's there now... been a few months since I checked
// too bad there's no other way to get it... yup, noooo other way...

Not there as far as I can see.


Mr. Sucks and I bought the whole damn series on DVD - used of course, much cheaper. I hadn't seen most of it before. Well worth the money spent.
 
2012-09-13 03:47:00 PM

Carn: Meanwhile, one day later...


President Romney would have retroactively arrested those attackers before they hurt anyone.
 
2012-09-13 03:47:19 PM

SFSailor: TheBeastOfYuccaFlats: Amazon Streaming has it.

WB has always been stupid with licensing, though.

Huh. (a) Always curious how things like that wind up happening. (b) That Kindle Fire HD 4G is looking more and more interesting. And, of course, (c) Thanks! The battle of "information wants to be free" vs. "it takes money to make that information, dumbass!" leads to interesting skirmishes and unquiet peaces, I guess.


Personally, I torrented the whole thing so I could watch it on my Apple TV2 without ripping it, but I also own all the DVDs.

I'd pay good money for an actual BluRay release, though.
 
2012-09-13 03:49:56 PM

Carn: Meanwhile, one day later...


Another opportunity for Mittney to should himself in the foot.

I suggest "Why is Obama allowing Libyan officials to control this investigation when clearly the US should be leading it?" followed by fist pumping and laughing hysterically.
 
2012-09-13 03:53:18 PM

Your Blog Sucks: EighthDay: SFSailor: WHY IS THIS SHOW NOT ON NETFLIX STREAMING?!

Crikey. Someone in the rights-holding company has their head up their ass.

/ unless it's there now... been a few months since I checked
// too bad there's no other way to get it... yup, noooo other way...

Not there as far as I can see.

Mr. Sucks and I bought the whole damn series on DVD - used of course, much cheaper. I hadn't seen most of it before. Well worth the money spent.


Every time I watch it I want to like, get involved in politics for real or start a blog. It's silly, I know.

Apparently it isn't uncommon, however. I can't find the article at the moment, but that show's influence on the current "young" generation of DC folks is very high.

/one woman said that it was hard to date around, though, because every young hotshot thinks they're the next Josh Lyman
 
2012-09-13 03:55:30 PM
We have serious problems to solve, and we need serious people to solve them. And whatever your particular problem is, I promise you, Mitt Romney is not the least bit interested in solving it. He is interested in two things, and two things only: making you afraid of it, and telling who is to blame for it! That, ladies and gentlemen, is how you win elections.

/Different flavor Sorkin, still applicable.
 
2012-09-13 04:02:56 PM

odinsposse: Carn: Meanwhile, one day later...

President Romney would have retroactively arrested those attackers before they hurt anyone.


haha, only if Obama lets him borrow the time machine!
 
2012-09-13 04:04:31 PM

mrshowrules: Carn: Meanwhile, one day later...

Another opportunity for Mittney to should himself in the foot.

I suggest "Why is Obama allowing Libyan officials to control this investigation when clearly the US should be leading it?" followed by fist pumping and laughing hysterically.


Or "Why did it take a whole entire day for these people to be caught! This is an outrage!"

We're joking but you know we're going to see links to blogs with exactly this kind of tone tomorrow...
 
2012-09-13 04:12:45 PM

beta_plus: [www.csicon.org image 643x433]

Oh wait, he's making Obama look bad? Clearly Captain America is a Racist Nazi.


I am laughing very hard at the level distorted thinking, cognitive dissonance, smug douchebaggery and outright stupidity necessary for you to even begin to think that Captain America would ever have anything but contempt for Mitt Romney's response to these events, to say nothing of the larger GOP platform of homophobia, xenophobia, religious intolerance and general contempt for anyone worse of than themselves.

Please, keep it up. You are more than welcome to continue delivering sick burns to yourself in that manner. I can use the laughs.
 
2012-09-13 04:20:35 PM

mrshowrules: I suggest "Why is Obama allowing Libyan officials to control this investigation when clearly the US should be leading it?" followed by fist pumping and laughing hysterically.


I also imagine him dry-humping the air and yelling "whoo!" a lot for some reason.
 
2012-09-13 04:22:34 PM

TheBeastOfYuccaFlats: Every time I watch it I want to like, get involved in politics for real


I would love to work there *any*way*, but I swear to anything holy that any time someone posts Charley meets the president, (or, for that matter, any of a number of others) I realize I'd give a number of organs of -great- personal value to work in *any* capacity in the White House close enough to the President to play basketball with him. And, no, at 6'6", I *wouldn't* let him dunk on me. ; )

I know it's Hollywood and all, but the conversations, decisions, stress and joy (that last one is probably pretty rare) in that institution would be an unbelievable experience.

Call me, B-Rock! I'm reasonably good with computers, ok with words (I'll find the typo before the release hits the press, I promise you that), have been known to work 100+ hour weeks, and can reach stuff on the top shelf... and I'm not a ball hog!

/ might have to head off to the torrents or the eBays for a used set...
// and try again, futilely, if there's any interesting openings posted
 
2012-09-13 04:24:29 PM

Lando Lincoln: mrshowrules: I suggest "Why is Obama allowing Libyan officials to control this investigation when clearly the US should be leading it?" followed by fist pumping and laughing hysterically.

I also imagine him dry-humping the air and yelling "whoo!" a lot for some reason.


Did you also see a dark spot forming in the crotch part of his pants because I'm getting that also.
 
2012-09-13 04:27:27 PM

Carn: mrshowrules: Carn: Meanwhile, one day later...

Another opportunity for Mittney to should himself in the foot.

I suggest "Why is Obama allowing Libyan officials to control this investigation when clearly the US should be leading it?" followed by fist pumping and laughing hysterically.

Or "Why did it take a whole entire day for these people to be caught! This is an outrage!"

We're joking but you know we're going to see links to blogs with exactly this kind of tone tomorrow...


I think they will go with "If they caught them so quickly they obviously knew who they were ahead of time and what they were planning. Why did Obama let them proceed with their plans?"
 
2012-09-13 04:31:37 PM
Bush advisors trying to paint Obama as a failure?

Color me shocked.

It's not like our friendly dictators exactly prevented the rise of AQAP and its North African affiliates.
 
2012-09-13 04:31:45 PM

mrshowrules: what_now: *sadly Aaron Sorkin got used to be told he was brilliant, and now writes utter crap.

Thanks for the explanation. Only ever saw clips of West Wing but he still has moments of brilliance in Newsroom. The filler between those moments is very lame though.


Download it and watch it all the way through. It is one of the best TV shows ever made. The writing and acting is excellent, remarkably accurate (though the sets were in many cases nicer than the real West Wing), and the production value is incredibly high. Besides being great entertainment, it is probably the best look at how the White House ever. Better than any memoir or insider tell all, really. It's idealistic about many things and doesn't make room for everything, but it covers a whole hell of a lot, and at a pretty complex level. Watching it all the way through is a college level course on civics, IMO, and this coming from a guy who does have a degree in this stuff.

Also, I was reminded of just how good a sequence this is, especially in the context of the current presidency. For context, Bartlett had just ordered the CIA to assassinate the Defense Minister of a foreign government, who he had met with that day, who had been supporting terrorist groups. This comes right after the exchange the thread's title references. The West Wing has a lot of those great musical closings- In Excelsis Deo comes to mind.
 
2012-09-13 04:34:10 PM

cptjeff: mrshowrules: what_now: *sadly Aaron Sorkin got used to be told he was brilliant, and now writes utter crap.

Thanks for the explanation. Only ever saw clips of West Wing but he still has moments of brilliance in Newsroom. The filler between those moments is very lame though.

Download it and watch it all the way through. It is one of the best TV shows ever made. The writing and acting is excellent, remarkably accurate (though the sets were in many cases nicer than the real West Wing), and the production value is incredibly high. Besides being great entertainment, it is probably the best look at how the White House ever. Better than any memoir or insider tell all, really. It's idealistic about many things and doesn't make room for everything, but it covers a whole hell of a lot, and at a pretty complex level. Watching it all the way through is a college level course on civics, IMO, and this coming from a guy who does have a degree in this stuff.

Also, I was reminded of just how good a sequence this is, especially in the context of the current presidency. For context, Bartlett had just ordered the CIA to assassinate the Defense Minister of a foreign government, who he had met with that day, who had been supporting terrorist groups. This comes right after the exchange the thread's title references. The West Wing has a lot of those great musical closings- In Excelsis Deo comes to mind.


I'm sold. I'll check Netflix tonight.
 
2012-09-13 04:36:26 PM

mrshowrules: cptjeff: mrshowrules: what_now: *sadly Aaron Sorkin got used to be told he was brilliant, and now writes utter crap.

Thanks for the explanation. Only ever saw clips of West Wing but he still has moments of brilliance in Newsroom. The filler between those moments is very lame though.

Download it and watch it all the way through. It is one of the best TV shows ever made. The writing and acting is excellent, remarkably accurate (though the sets were in many cases nicer than the real West Wing), and the production value is incredibly high. Besides being great entertainment, it is probably the best look at how the White House ever. Better than any memoir or insider tell all, really. It's idealistic about many things and doesn't make room for everything, but it covers a whole hell of a lot, and at a pretty complex level. Watching it all the way through is a college level course on civics, IMO, and this coming from a guy who does have a degree in this stuff.

Also, I was reminded of just how good a sequence this is, especially in the context of the current presidency. For context, Bartlett had just ordered the CIA to assassinate the Defense Minister of a foreign government, who he had met with that day, who had been supporting terrorist groups. This comes right after the exchange the thread's title references. The West Wing has a lot of those great musical closings- In Excelsis Deo comes to mind.

I'm sold. I'll check Netflix tonight.


Netflix doesn't stream it, but they undoubtedly have the DVD versions.

Amazon Prime / Amazon Streaming has it, though.

/tragically there's still no BluRay version, which is a modern travesty if I've ever seen one
 
2012-09-13 04:38:27 PM

SFSailor: EighthDay: Not there as far as I can see.

Just don't get it. It's old. There's plenty of old tv shows on there, so it's not like that's different. It's political. There's plenty of political material on there.

It really should be on there. YouTube clip hopping is unsatisfying, and I don't like having to choose between "be criminal" and "can't watch something that should be readily available."

Really wonder what the hangup is.

I mean, seriously... "A SECWET PWAN TO FIGHT INFWATION?!" That's just gold.

And if there's any Farker who hasn't seen Josh getting trolled and try to fight a flamewar...

"What Josh doesn't know is that some of these people haven't taken their medication..."

"SO FAR UP YOUR ASS!"

Yeah, it's clipped together by an over-eager YouTuber, but still. Almost willing to bet there was a Farker in the writing room.


can't. breathe. send help
 
2012-09-13 04:47:56 PM

InmanRoshi: John Bolton - Just barely relevant enough to appear on AM Talk Radio to throw firebombs inbetweenst Herbalife and Cash For Gold commercials to an audience of chronically unemployed illiterate long haul truckers.


Whatchu mean, illiterate truckers?

i865.photobucket.com

* Saw this on a Kenworth rig on the Interstate, the truck is from Alabama.
 
2012-09-13 04:49:01 PM

TheBeastOfYuccaFlats:
/tragically there's still no BluRay version, which is a modern travesty if I've ever seen one


What's there to gain, exactly? Wasn't it shot for TV in 3/4 aspect ratio anyway?
 
2012-09-13 04:50:04 PM

Commander Lysdexic: Bartlet: Apparently, I've arranged for an honor guard for somebody.
Toby: Yes, sir. I'm sorry.
Bartlet: No no. Just tell me, is there anything else I've arranged for? We're still in NATO right?
Toby: Yes, sir.
Bartlet: What's going on?
Toby: A homeless man died last night; a Korean War veteran, who was wearing a coat that I gave to the Goodwill. It had my card in it.
Bartlet: Toby, you're not responsible for ...
Toby: An hour and twenty minutes for the ambulance to get there. A Lance Corporal, United States Marine Corps, Second of the Seventh. The guy got better treatment at Panmunjom.
Bartlet: Toby, if we start pulling strings like this, you don't think every homeless veteran would come out of the woodworks?
Toby: I can only hope, sir.


Got all dusty in here suddenly.
 
2012-09-13 04:54:39 PM

mrshowrules: Carn: mrshowrules: Carn: Meanwhile, one day later...

Another opportunity for Mittney to should himself in the foot.

I suggest "Why is Obama allowing Libyan officials to control this investigation when clearly the US should be leading it?" followed by fist pumping and laughing hysterically.

Or "Why did it take a whole entire day for these people to be caught! This is an outrage!"

We're joking but you know we're going to see links to blogs with exactly this kind of tone tomorrow...

I think they will go with "If they caught them so quickly they obviously knew who they were ahead of time and what they were planning. Why did Obama let them proceed with their plans?"


Winner. Proof that Libya's not our ally, Obama's a terrible leader, and Muslims can't be trusted. That's the obvious spin.

Second place- and I'd bet money on at LEAST one of these being greened- is that the people who were arrested are simply patsys to allow Libya to save face.
 
2012-09-13 05:15:20 PM

astro716: TheBeastOfYuccaFlats:
/tragically there's still no BluRay version, which is a modern travesty if I've ever seen one

What's there to gain, exactly? Wasn't it shot for TV in 3/4 aspect ratio anyway?


First two seasons yes, but it was widescreen for the rest of the show. Most TV stations broadcast it in 4:3 when they aired it though, since HD TVs were still rare when it was going out. 

The entire show was also shot on film stock rather than the much cheaper lower quality stuff they normally use for TV (well, it's all digital now)- you could get quite a lot out of a blue ray upgrade.
 
2012-09-13 05:17:27 PM

sprawl15: theorellior: serpent_sky: Mitt Romney is giving a campaign speech right now, and he's smiling and being glib while talking about the people who were killed in the attack, and just said "I would offer a moment of silence, but one gentleman doesn't want to be silent, so we'll just keep on going" while basking in people chanting his name.

Wow. Just wow.

We're seeing an implosion on a national scale. And it's all because Romney is being Romney.

I will be very sad if the implosion hits hard enough to make him not go to the debates.


That will never happen. There is absolutely no advantage for a losing challenger not to debate the incumbent.

Of course, at this point it seems clear that Obama is going clean Romney's clock during said debates. I expect a complete meltdown by Romney in at least one of them.
 
2012-09-13 05:24:15 PM

Geotpf: sprawl15: theorellior: serpent_sky: Mitt Romney is giving a campaign speech right now, and he's smiling and being glib while talking about the people who were killed in the attack, and just said "I would offer a moment of silence, but one gentleman doesn't want to be silent, so we'll just keep on going" while basking in people chanting his name.

Wow. Just wow.

We're seeing an implosion on a national scale. And it's all because Romney is being Romney.

I will be very sad if the implosion hits hard enough to make him not go to the debates.

That will never happen. There is absolutely no advantage for a losing challenger not to debate the incumbent.

Of course, at this point it seems clear that Obama is going clean Romney's clock during said debates. I expect a complete meltdown by Romney in at least one of them.


I've already got one of those giant tins with three types of coated popcorn on order. The debates are gonna be must watch TV.
 
2012-09-13 05:26:01 PM

TV's Vinnie: [images.politico.com image 605x328]

NOW Hillary knows how Obama would handle that "call at 3 AM".

Answer: LIKE A BOSS!!


I hated her during the primaries, but I now must admit, though, she has been the best secretary of state during my lifetime, IMHO. She clearly could handle said call as well and I can see why she thought (wrongly) that Obama couldn't. One example of Obama's maturity was that he recoginized that she would be good in that position, even after the brutal primary, and one example of her maturity is that she accepted the position.
 
2012-09-13 05:34:04 PM

hubiestubert: Keep talking Mitt. Just keep talking.

At this point, it's like watching Persians being drawn out to attack a retreating line of infantry, and suddenly realizing after they get there, that the cavalry has encircled them. He KEEPS running his mouth, instead of actually considering what to say before he gets the podium.

If the man can't even keep discipline in a campaign like this, how in the Hells do we expect him to actually run our government? Don't get me wrong, he has a lot of folks who stay on message, even when faced with idiocy at the podium, but there is a difference in backing your man no matter how stupid he gets, and actually leading. The shills are paid to generate support, but that is different than actually running the government, and having policies that work. There is a point where even a captive press has to look at a candidate and objectively assess their policies.


Romney's campaign is a disaster. Logically enough, it is clear to me that, during the last three presidential elections at a minimum (plus this one), the candidate who was the better campaigner won (this includes Bush in 2000).
 
2012-09-13 05:42:42 PM

vpb: People will be talking about this through the end of the year. People will be bringing it up when they analyze Romney's defeat.


Yup.

It's not going to cause a massive swing against Romney but:

i) The press are pretty disgusted with Romney. Having the press think you are a piece of shiat in an election is not an advantage.

ii) There are very few true swing voters out there. Most people already have selected the party they want to vote for for president. Although people who have already decided could be persuaded to change their mind it is pretty hard to do so, and running political attack ads are really quite ineffective.

However Romney's farkwittery of the past couple of days is a thing that will make some (not many, but some) Republicans to change their mind about voting for him, as well as cementing Obama's support.

It won't be a huge change, but it will be a permanent swing from Romney to Obama of somewhere between 1/4 and 1%. That change will also probably take a couple of weeks to work through the polls, as people have quite high inertia and will say that they'll still vote for Romney, before they realise that he's such an asshole they can't actually bear to vote for him.

Seeing as Obama already has a massive lead, by the end of September it could be pretty obvious to everyone that Romney has no chance.
 
2012-09-13 06:03:39 PM

beta_plus: [www.csicon.org image 643x433]

Oh wait, he's making Obama look bad? Clearly Captain America is a Racist Nazi.


"This is a lighthouse. Your call."
 
2012-09-13 06:07:41 PM

astro716: TheBeastOfYuccaFlats:
/tragically there's still no BluRay version, which is a modern travesty if I've ever seen one

What's there to gain, exactly? Wasn't it shot for TV in 3/4 aspect ratio anyway?


As far as I know, it was shot on film but edited to 4:3 for TV in the first 3 or so seasons. After a while it switches to letterbox but I can't remember exactly which episode that happens at.
 
2012-09-13 06:11:56 PM

somedude210: SphericalTime: Really? It was "and you get tax cuts, and you get tax cuts, and YOU get tax cuts . . ." for me.

true, but the President really didn't come out swinging until Romney tried to drag him down with the attack on an embassy and then smiled as he talked about it


Not smiled - smirked. He saw this as a politically exploitable moment, and internally giggled with glee. That glee crept out as that friggin' smirk. You could see the thought writ plain as day on his face: "Sweet! This is my moment! I can hammer Obama, thanks to some dead guy in Libya!"

The man actually took pleasure in the fact that he thought he could turn this moment to benefit himself, and couldn't even fake true remorse for the fact that, apparently, religious extremists from one religion killed a U.S. ambassador because of a movie made by a religious extremist from a different religion.

The man is clearly unfit to be around other people, never mind governing the last remaining superpower on the friggin' planet.
 
2012-09-13 06:16:08 PM

cptjeff: In Excelsis Deo comes to mind.


That is one of the finest sequences shown on television, ever, imho. Thanks for posting it, as it seems there are others who haven't seen it. Between Mrs.Landingham asking to come along and "I can only hope, Sir." I don't care *where* you are on the political spectrum, from derpspew right to derpspew left, if that doesn't get ya'.... and I'm usually put off by heavy-handed music use.

lysdexic: can't. breathe. send help


Heh. Yeah, I think there are a fair number of us who have been in the "BUT THEY'RE WRONG!" position. And remember, this was written / aired when "posting on the Internet" was something mostly freaks and the IT people (but I repeat myself) tended to do.

"SO FAR UP YOUR ASS!"

Many also love rebutting a religious "scholar" with the bible and I, personally, love the quest for the turkey-carving knife Charley has to endure, and its resolution, but can't seem to find the scene clip package I saw once.

Anyway, great show, particularly because it mixed, "I hope so, Sir," and "SO FAR UP YOUR ASS!" in a great balance.
 
2012-09-13 06:16:13 PM

Danack: However Romney's farkwittery of the past couple of days is a thing that will make some (not many, but some) Republicans to change their mind about voting for him, as well as cementing Obama's support.


This. The sad part is that this isn't "Romney making a mistake" - it's "Romney being himself." The mask slipped, and we saw his true face.

He's a guy that's quite happy to exploit the misery and pain of others - whether it be hundreds of employees fired to ensure his vulture capitalism turned a tidy profit, or a U.S. ambassador killed by religious extremists as a reaction to a hateful little movie produced right here - if it benefits himself.

He doesn't give a rat's ass about you - only what you can do for him. He'd happily throw you to the wolves if he can turn enough profit. The man's a Mormon Ferengi.
 
2012-09-13 06:17:00 PM

TheBeastOfYuccaFlats: astro716: TheBeastOfYuccaFlats:
/tragically there's still no BluRay version, which is a modern travesty if I've ever seen one

What's there to gain, exactly? Wasn't it shot for TV in 3/4 aspect ratio anyway?

As far as I know, it was shot on film but edited to 4:3 for TV in the first 3 or so seasons. After a while it switches to letterbox but I can't remember exactly which episode that happens at.


I have it on my computer with easy access- it switches between seasons 2 and 3, with Two Cathedrals as the last episode in 4:3.
 
2012-09-13 06:19:12 PM

cptjeff: TheBeastOfYuccaFlats: astro716: TheBeastOfYuccaFlats:
/tragically there's still no BluRay version, which is a modern travesty if I've ever seen one

What's there to gain, exactly? Wasn't it shot for TV in 3/4 aspect ratio anyway?

As far as I know, it was shot on film but edited to 4:3 for TV in the first 3 or so seasons. After a while it switches to letterbox but I can't remember exactly which episode that happens at.

I have it on my computer with easy access- it switches between seasons 2 and 3, with Two Cathedrals as the last episode in 4:3.


Gotcha.
 
2012-09-13 06:33:11 PM

SFSailor: cptjeff: In Excelsis Deo comes to mind.

That is one of the finest sequences shown on television, ever, imho. Thanks for posting it, as it seems there are others who haven't seen it. Between Mrs.Landingham asking to come along and "I can only hope, Sir." I don't care *where* you are on the political spectrum, from derpspew right to derpspew left, if that doesn't get ya'.... and I'm usually put off by heavy-handed music use.



It was probably Sorkin who said this, but in one of the special features, somebody was talking about developing the show and the title theme, which came from a bit one of the music people came up with in the music at the end of the pilot, and it really echos with a lot of the cinematic choice throughout the show. While they were initially afraid of such an official sounding theme that could come off as pretentious, they found that the subject matter of the show could really support it. When you're making a fairly serious show about the American Presidency, you can use cinematography and music that would come of as incredibly pompous in a crime or hospital drama. You could not use those big, musical cuts in ER, for example, without having everybody laugh at you.

That's part of the greatness of the show, IMO. The subject, plots and acting are substantial enough to where cinematic ruffles and flourishes seem absolutely appropriate and elevate the show, rather than coming across as self important and ridiculous. If they tried something like that on Dr. Who, I'd probably throw something at the TV. But when your show involves the near regal grandeur or the Presidency, you can't cut it like Scrubs.
 
2012-09-13 06:46:07 PM
Ready. Fire. Aim.


Fits perfectly on a bumper sticker.
 
2012-09-13 06:49:33 PM

somedude210: Huck And Molly Ziegler: quatchi: Plus 1 purely for the WW headline.

Love that episode.

/Let Obama be Obama.

Plus 1 for this person's Plus 1.
Thanks for the memories, headline-writer!

/babies come with hats.

thank you kindly. I quite enjoyed writing this headline

/subby


You should know that there is a game in the works that is written by a tWW writer. He had it for play at Gencon.

It looks awesome. I've got you favorited and will send more info when I have it.
 
2012-09-13 06:54:35 PM
Actually ... This is the part of an episode that this whole thing reminds me of.

(Someone said it in another thread, but I cant find it at the moment)


Bartlet: Did you know that two thousand years ago a Roman citizen could walk across the face of the known world free of the fear of molestation? He could walk across the Earth unharmed, cloaked only in the protection of the words civis Romanus -- I am a Roman citizen. So great was the retribution of Rome, universally certain, should any harm befall even one of its citizens. Where was Morris's protection, or anybody else on that airplane? Where was the retribution for the families, and where is the warning to the rest of the world that Americans shall walk this Earth unharmed, lest the clenched fist of the most mighty military force in the history of mankind comes crashing down on your house?! In other words, Leo, what the hell are we doing here?!
Leo: We are behaving the way a superpower ought to behave.
Bartlet: Well our behavior has produced some crappy results, in fact I'm not a hundred per cent sure it hasn't induced it.
Leo: What are you talking about?
Bartlet: I'm talking about two hundred and eighty-six American marines in Beirut, I'm talking about Somalia, I'm talking about Nairobi-
Leo: And you think ratcheting up the body count's gonna act as a deterrent?
Bartlet: You're damn right I-
Leo: Oh, then you are just as stupid as these guys who think capital punishment is going to be a deterrent for drug kingpins. As if drug kingpins didn't live their day to day lives under the possibility of execution, and their executions are a lot less dainty than ours and tend to take place without the bother and expense of due process. So, my friend, if you want to start using American military strength as the arm of the Lord, you can do that. We're the only superpower left. You can conquer the world, like Charlemagne! But you better be prepared to kill everyone. And you better start with me, because I will raise up an army against you and I will beat you!
Bartlet: He had a ten day old baby at home.
Leo: I know.
Bartlet: We are doing nothing.
Leo: We are not doing nothing.
Bartlet: We're destroying-
Leo: Four high-rated military targets!
Bartlet: And this is good?
Leo: Of course it's not good. There is no good. It's what there is! It's how you behave if you're the most powerful nation in the world. It's proportional, it's reasonable, it's responsible, it's merciful! It's not nothing. Four high-rated military targets.
Bartlet: Which they'll rebuild again in six months.
Leo: Then we'll blow 'em up again in six months! We're getting really good at it... It's what our fathers taught us.
Bartlet: Why didn't you say so? Oh, Leo...when I think of all the work you put in to get me to run and all the work you did to get me elected...I could pummel your ass with a baseball bat.
 
2012-09-13 07:14:18 PM

SFSailor: TheBeastOfYuccaFlats: Every time I watch it I want to like, get involved in politics for real

I would love to work there *any*way*, but I swear to anything holy that any time someone posts Charley meets the president, (or, for that matter, any of a number of others) I realize I'd give a number of organs of -great- personal value to work in *any* capacity in the White House close enough to the President to play basketball with him. And, no, at 6'6", I *wouldn't* let him dunk on me. ; )

I know it's Hollywood and all, but the conversations, decisions, stress and joy (that last one is probably pretty rare) in that institution would be an unbelievable experience.

Call me, B-Rock! I'm reasonably good with computers, ok with words (I'll find the typo before the release hits the press, I promise you that), have been known to work 100+ hour weeks, and can reach stuff on the top shelf... and I'm not a ball hog!

/ might have to head off to the torrents or the eBays for a used set...
// and try again, futilely, if there's any interesting openings posted


when I run for office, (assuming you're in the MA area) come work for me. Help me change the world
 
2012-09-13 07:27:20 PM

Shadow Blasko: somedude210: Huck And Molly Ziegler: quatchi: Plus 1 purely for the WW headline.

Love that episode.

/Let Obama be Obama.

Plus 1 for this person's Plus 1.
Thanks for the memories, headline-writer!

/babies come with hats.

thank you kindly. I quite enjoyed writing this headline

/subby

You should know that there is a game in the works that is written by a tWW writer. He had it for play at Gencon.

It looks awesome. I've got you favorited and will send more info when I have it.


Sorkin is doing a game? Really? like video game or board game? Somehow I can't picture him translating well to game

/I will admit, however, that I've taken his writing style when it comes to powerful speeches and dialogue
 
2012-09-13 07:33:13 PM

Citrate1007: "I've said for three-and-a-half years the president doesn't care about national security. He doesn't think the world is terribly threatening," former U.S. Ambassador to the United Nations John Bolton

This man doesn't know what an Ambassador does.....which is why he is a former one. The NeoCons in the GOP place war mongers in these roles because of their close ties with DoD contractors. They want international relations in chaos because it makes them rich.


Bolton is a bush league fascist.
 
2012-09-13 07:34:07 PM

somedude210: Shadow Blasko: somedude210: Huck And Molly Ziegler: quatchi: Plus 1 purely for the WW headline.

Love that episode.

/Let Obama be Obama.

Plus 1 for this person's Plus 1.
Thanks for the memories, headline-writer!

/babies come with hats.

thank you kindly. I quite enjoyed writing this headline

/subby

You should know that there is a game in the works that is written by a tWW writer. He had it for play at Gencon.

It looks awesome. I've got you favorited and will send more info when I have it.

Sorkin is doing a game? Really? like video game or board game? Somehow I can't picture him translating well to game

/I will admit, however, that I've taken his writing style when it comes to powerful speeches and dialogue


It is not Sorkin, it was one of the writers for the show. Younger guy, but the game exists in an expanded WW universe.
 
2012-09-13 07:34:41 PM

Shadow Blasko: Actually ... This is the part of an episode that this whole thing reminds me of.

(Someone said it in another thread, but I cant find it at the moment)


Bartlet: Did you know that two thousand years ago a Roman citizen could walk across the face of the known world free of the fear of molestation? He could walk across the Earth unharmed, cloaked only in the protection of the words civis Romanus -- I am a Roman citizen. So great was the retribution of Rome, universally certain, should any harm befall even one of its citizens. Where was Morris's protection, or anybody else on that airplane? Where was the retribution for the families, and where is the warning to the rest of the world that Americans shall walk this Earth unharmed, lest the clenched fist of the most mighty military force in the history of mankind comes crashing down on your house?! In other words, Leo, what the hell are we doing here?!
Leo: We are behaving the way a superpower ought to behave.
Bartlet: Well our behavior has produced some crappy results, in fact I'm not a hundred per cent sure it hasn't induced it.
Leo: What are you talking about?
Bartlet: I'm talking about two hundred and eighty-six American marines in Beirut, I'm talking about Somalia, I'm talking about Nairobi-
Leo: And you think ratcheting up the body count's gonna act as a deterrent?
Bartlet: You're damn right I-
Leo: Oh, then you are just as stupid as these guys who think capital punishment is going to be a deterrent for drug kingpins. As if drug kingpins didn't live their day to day lives under the possibility of execution, and their executions are a lot less dainty than ours and tend to take place without the bother and expense of due process. So, my friend, if you want to start using American military strength as the arm of the Lord, you can do that. We're the only superpower left. You can conquer the world, like Charlemagne! But you better be prepared to kill everyone. And you better start with me, because I will raise u ...


The West Wing was a great show. Btw, I want to be Josh so I can get lobbied by Amy

www.vanityfair.com
 
2012-09-13 07:43:31 PM

what_now: Philip Francis Queeg: Are you under the impression that nations can station whatever military forces they desire at consulates?

Um. Yes. Consulates are part of US territory.

This is INDEED a good question. It won't get asked though, because Romney's a smirking mother farker.


Find whoever told you that, and slap them. Consulates are not part of US territory. Where do people get this idea, anyway? Do you think that Russia could send an armored division to the consulates in Houston or Seattle and we'd be OK with it?

The thing that really should be discussed is that the Benghazi consulate managed to withstand the assault, saving a lot of lives and preventing hostages from being taken. Yes, four people died, including the Ambassador (who wasn't in the protected area for whatever reason), but considering that they were assaulted by enemies wielding assault rifles and RPGs, this was an excellent job by the consulate's defenders. This is not the disaster that some people want to call it.
 
2012-09-13 09:06:09 PM

somedude210: SFSailor: TheBeastOfYuccaFlats: Every time I watch it I want to like, get involved in politics for real

I would love to work there *any*way*, but I swear to anything holy that any time someone posts Charley meets the president, (or, for that matter, any of a number of others) I realize I'd give a number of organs of -great- personal value to work in *any* capacity in the White House close enough to the President to play basketball with him. And, no, at 6'6", I *wouldn't* let him dunk on me. ; )

I know it's Hollywood and all, but the conversations, decisions, stress and joy (that last one is probably pretty rare) in that institution would be an unbelievable experience.

Call me, B-Rock! I'm reasonably good with computers, ok with words (I'll find the typo before the release hits the press, I promise you that), have been known to work 100+ hour weeks, and can reach stuff on the top shelf... and I'm not a ball hog!

/ might have to head off to the torrents or the eBays for a used set...
// and try again, futilely, if there's any interesting openings posted

when I run for office, (assuming you're in the MA area) come work for me. Help me change the world


Stupid phone replying...

(1) cptjeff -- thanks for that... I think I just learned why the music and tone never bugged me. Your points are spot on.

(2) somedude210... well that's among the nicest offers I've had, let alone from some stranger on the innarwebz. I hope you do run -- the world needs more leaders from Fark and fewer from the tv/printing press era. As I am in Balto/DC, when you make it to DC, I hope there is some way I can help you change the world. I really do think working somehow in the govt, even just in some ancillary support way, would be incredible.

/ will be adding some favorites when I am next at a pc
// mostly so I can pester somedude into letting me help him move into his new office on The Hill at some point ; )
 
2012-09-13 09:39:56 PM

cptjeff: SFSailor: cptjeff: In Excelsis Deo comes to mind.

That is one of the finest sequences shown on television, ever, imho. Thanks for posting it, as it seems there are others who haven't seen it. Between Mrs.Landingham asking to come along and "I can only hope, Sir." I don't care *where* you are on the political spectrum, from derpspew right to derpspew left, if that doesn't get ya'.... and I'm usually put off by heavy-handed music use.


It was probably Sorkin who said this, but in one of the special features, somebody was talking about developing the show and the title theme, which came from a bit one of the music people came up with in the music at the end of the pilot, and it really echos with a lot of the cinematic choice throughout the show. While they were initially afraid of such an official sounding theme that could come off as pretentious, they found that the subject matter of the show could really support it. When you're making a fairly serious show about the American Presidency, you can use cinematography and music that would come of as incredibly pompous in a crime or hospital drama. You could not use those big, musical cuts in ER, for example, without having everybody laugh at you.

That's part of the greatness of the show, IMO. The subject, plots and acting are substantial enough to where cinematic ruffles and flourishes seem absolutely appropriate and elevate the show, rather than coming across as self important and ridiculous. If they tried something like that on Dr. Who, I'd probably throw something at the TV. But when your show involves the near regal grandeur or the Presidency, you can't cut it like Scrubs.


And the theme itself has unintentional moments of greatness. I want to say it's like 7x17, really late, the episode that starts with all the campaign staff pairing off the night before the election. It's sex, sex, sex, glorious fanfare. Hilarious.
 
2012-09-13 09:50:29 PM

Bucky Katt: Shadow Blasko: Actually ... This is the part of an episode that this whole thing reminds me of.

(Someone said it in another thread, but I cant find it at the moment)


Bartlet: Did you know that two thousand years ago a Roman citizen could walk across the face of the known world free of the fear of molestation? He could walk across the Earth unharmed, cloaked only in the protection of the words civis Romanus -- I am a Roman citizen. So great was the retribution of Rome, universally certain, should any harm befall even one of its citizens. Where was Morris's protection, or anybody else on that airplane? Where was the retribution for the families, and where is the warning to the rest of the world that Americans shall walk this Earth unharmed, lest the clenched fist of the most mighty military force in the history of mankind comes crashing down on your house?! In other words, Leo, what the hell are we doing here?!
Leo: We are behaving the way a superpower ought to behave.
Bartlet: Well our behavior has produced some crappy results, in fact I'm not a hundred per cent sure it hasn't induced it.
Leo: What are you talking about?
Bartlet: I'm talking about two hundred and eighty-six American marines in Beirut, I'm talking about Somalia, I'm talking about Nairobi-
Leo: And you think ratcheting up the body count's gonna act as a deterrent?
Bartlet: You're damn right I-
Leo: Oh, then you are just as stupid as these guys who think capital punishment is going to be a deterrent for drug kingpins. As if drug kingpins didn't live their day to day lives under the possibility of execution, and their executions are a lot less dainty than ours and tend to take place without the bother and expense of due process. So, my friend, if you want to start using American military strength as the arm of the Lord, you can do that. We're the only superpower left. You can conquer the world, like Charlemagne! But you better be prepared to kill everyone. And you better start with me, because ...


Wow that might be the creepiest shop I've ever seen
 
2012-09-13 10:26:54 PM

SFSailor: somedude210... well that's among the nicest offers I've had, let alone from some stranger on the innarwebz. I hope you do run -- the world needs more leaders from Fark and fewer from the tv/printing press era. As I am in Balto/DC, when you make it to DC, I hope there is some way I can help you change the world. I really do think working somehow in the govt, even just in some ancillary support way, would be incredible.

/ will be adding some favorites when I am next at a pc
// mostly so I can pester somedude into letting me help him move into his new office on The Hill at some point ; )


Hahaha, beacon hill first. Then the WH. Gotta start small first. You've been faved as potential help :D

/is it wrong to ask for campaign help from Fark?
//is it wronger to ask for contributions from Farkers?
///is it wrongest if slashies come in threes?
 
2012-09-13 10:27:05 PM

GAT_00: cptjeff: SFSailor: cptjeff: In Excelsis Deo comes to mind.

That is one of the finest sequences shown on television, ever, imho. Thanks for posting it, as it seems there are others who haven't seen it. Between Mrs.Landingham asking to come along and "I can only hope, Sir." I don't care *where* you are on the political spectrum, from derpspew right to derpspew left, if that doesn't get ya'.... and I'm usually put off by heavy-handed music use.


It was probably Sorkin who said this, but in one of the special features, somebody was talking about developing the show and the title theme, which came from a bit one of the music people came up with in the music at the end of the pilot, and it really echos with a lot of the cinematic choice throughout the show. While they were initially afraid of such an official sounding theme that could come off as pretentious, they found that the subject matter of the show could really support it. When you're making a fairly serious show about the American Presidency, you can use cinematography and music that would come of as incredibly pompous in a crime or hospital drama. You could not use those big, musical cuts in ER, for example, without having everybody laugh at you.

That's part of the greatness of the show, IMO. The subject, plots and acting are substantial enough to where cinematic ruffles and flourishes seem absolutely appropriate and elevate the show, rather than coming across as self important and ridiculous. If they tried something like that on Dr. Who, I'd probably throw something at the TV. But when your show involves the near regal grandeur or the Presidency, you can't cut it like Scrubs.

And the theme itself has unintentional moments of greatness. I want to say it's like 7x17, really late, the episode that starts with all the campaign staff pairing off the night before the election. It's sex, sex, sex, glorious fanfare. Hilarious.


Is that pairing off the one set to Desire where Will (iirc the name correctly) is just trying to get something out of the vending machine while everyone else is all "Bone?" "Sure."

Cuz that montage I'd lolawesomearious and sad at the same time.

/ phone quoting sucks
 
2012-09-13 10:33:35 PM

somedude210: SFSailor: somedude210... well that's among the nicest offers I've had, let alone from some stranger on the innarwebz. I hope you do run -- the world needs more leaders from Fark and fewer from the tv/printing press era. As I am in Balto/DC, when you make it to DC, I hope there is some way I can help you change the world. I really do think working somehow in the govt, even just in some ancillary support way, would be incredible.

/ will be adding some favorites when I am next at a pc
// mostly so I can pester somedude into letting me help him move into his new office on The Hill at some point ; )

Hahaha, beacon hill first. Then the WH. Gotta start small first. You've been faved as potential help :D

/is it wrong to ask for campaign help from Fark?
//is it wronger to ask for contributions from Farkers?
///is it wrongest if slashies come in threes?


No. If you're actually running for something, even though I'm broke and unemployed, I'll send your campaign $10 or so. Eip.

And there's a Farker who just got elected to something... with several main page headlines, so don't be shy... might even bug Drew if I were you. Kinda wondered if that was you, as I didn't follow it closely.

/ will practice my, "where would you like this box, Mr. Somedude?"
// Congress first, and remember your little people! ; )
 
2012-09-13 10:52:58 PM

SFSailor: No. If you're actually running for something, even though I'm broke and unemployed, I'll send your campaign $10 or so. Eip.

And there's a Farker who just got elected to something... with several main page headlines, so don't be shy... might even bug Drew if I were you. Kinda wondered if that was you, as I didn't follow it closely.

/ will practice my, "where would you like this box, Mr. Somedude?"
// Congress first, and remember your little people! ; )


Of course. Start at the state rep. at some point make a run for governor and then eventually the presidency :D

I will never remember the little people

/I'll also never smirk when discussing diplomats killed on the job
 
2012-09-13 11:25:58 PM
I literally just watched this episode for the first time

/Richie 2012!
 
2012-09-13 11:29:10 PM
You know Romney should have my vote by default-
I am- from the south, white, christian, veteran, gun owner, married, and somewhat conservative.
But no... after watching both convention speeches I decided on Obama. This, however, seals the
deal. I remember George Bush right before the Gulf War (I was in his military) and he always
sounded Presidential. I remember Clinton after the USS Cole, what a great speech. I think back
on George W. Bush after the Columbia disaster, excellent speech. Obama was great after we
got Osama bin Laden. Romney should have waited for Obama, Huntsman, or McCain. They all
sounded like leaders and got it right. One more swing state vote has been confirmed for Obama.
 
2012-09-14 12:20:50 AM
You guys do realize that no matter how much you white knight him..he won't sleep with you...right?
 
2012-09-14 03:31:38 AM

somedude210: sprawl15: I will be very sad if the implosion hits hard enough to make him not go to the debates.

if that happens then we will be looking at a Mondale level ass kicking


Landon level.
 
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