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2012-09-13 10:08:45 AM

Baryogenesis: Did you happen to think through the ramifications of US Marines shooting a bunch of unarmed rioters?


The rioters go away and our embassy is safe?

/If you're scaling an embassy wall, you are not an innocent or a civilian.
//These are not farking occupy protests, they are coordinated attacks.
 
2012-09-13 10:08:48 AM

Lunaville: 1. End all military aid to Yemen and her neighbors.
2. Issue an advisory against traveling to or doing business in Yemen. Make it clear to American owned companies that they will receive no support, no protection, no intervention if doing business in Yemen becomes problematic.
3. Issue same advisory to NGOs.
4. Maintain or increase humanitarian aid to Yemen as conditions indicate.
5. Invest heavily in wind and solar energy. Invest in hybrid and electric cars. Increase efficiency standards. Invest in mass transit. Seek ways to move our nation from dependency on the one thing that most motivates us to entangle ourselves in the affairs of nations like Yemen.


Hey now, those are ALL good! Nicely done, sir.

Waxing_Chewbacca: I think a nuanced response would require more details than the example you give. The poster I was responding to seems to feel that the people of Yeman are justified in their protest. That they are justified due to drone strikes. I say they should be protesting their own governments attitude toward the terrorist who are allowed to thrive there and thus necessitate the drone strikes.


Um, no, I'm saying the Yemenis are acting ENTIRELY PREDICTABLY. They sure as hell believe they are justified. Me? Not so much.

And if a Yemeni protests against his government, he gets jailed or a bullet in the face. Are you under the impression that Yemen is a democracy? Hardly. The current leader was installed by the USA because he's willing to "play ball" in return for $$$.

And guess what? The Yemeni militais and terrorists are fighting aginst the Yemeni government, not the US. The Yemeni government is pleased as punch to have a squadron of drones out there able to wipe out anti-Yemeni government dissenters and call them Al Qaeda.

You can read about it all over the internet if you so desire to know the actual facts on the ground in Yemen.
 
2012-09-13 10:09:03 AM

Ricardo Klement: fusillade762: Why does the Islamic world seem to susceptible to trolling? Can we turn that to our advantage?

Have someone make a movie of Iranians making fun of the Sunni heirs to Mohammed.


I think someone made a movie of two Iranian lesbians. The movie was secretly shot in Tehran under the pretense it was your average girl movie, only Iranians (At least this is what I knew).
 
2012-09-13 10:10:42 AM

Ricardo Klement: doubled99: Muslims are no different than any other religion.
No, really.

They just haven't had an Enlightenment or Reformation.

No, really.


Well, even the President's pastor is quoted as saying "God, damn America." Guess they're not so different after all.
 
2012-09-13 10:10:42 AM
Are celebrities going to threaten moving to the UK if Barry loses? I don't think he will, but it's always a hoot(cause they didn't do it when Bush won the second time).(Cause they're full of shiat)
 
2012-09-13 10:11:01 AM

Lt. Cheese Weasel: Baryogenesis: HotIgneous Intruder: Father_Jack: Just to entertain the "how would I defend an embassy" scenario for a moment...kinda overkill. why not just a browning 50cal?

Two Marines with rifles would solve that climbing-the-fence problem.

HotIgneous Intruder: There is that aspect, since we're being nuanced and sophisticated here.

Yup. A lot of nuance there.

I have no doubt your idea would solve that particular fence climbing problem. Did it occur to you that shooting rioters might be a tad overzealous? Did you happen to think through the ramifications of US Marines shooting a bunch of unarmed rioters?

Did you happen to consider the ramifications of doing nothing at all? Of course not. More and more will be emboldened and this will spread. It started in Cairo, Obama apologized, and people died in Libya and Obama has done nothing, and now Yemen, and Obama has done nothing. Maths are hard but it's not that hard to connect the dots with your crayon, is it?


Perhaps one of the fence climbers will come over the fence and kill the ambassador.
Should the Marine stop and interview them to determine their intent?
 
2012-09-13 10:11:05 AM

Lt. Cheese Weasel: , Obama apologized


OBAMA DID NOT APOLOGIZE YOU IGNORANT TARD!

THE PEOPLE WITHIN THE UNITED STATES EMBASSY THAT WERE ABOUT TO BE MURDERED ISSUED PRESS RELEASES THAT SAID PLEASE CALM DOWN AND DON'T MURDER US! WE'RE INNOCENT AND HAVE NOTHING TO DO WITH THAT STUPID MOVIE.

Romney lied. Obama did not apologize. He did not make that statement nor did anyone in his cabinet.
 
2012-09-13 10:11:38 AM
Here's hoping this trend continues and the people of the world put ALL of our embassies out of business.
 
2012-09-13 10:12:21 AM

CreampuffCasperMilktoast: Ricardo Klement: doubled99: Muslims are no different than any other religion.
No, really.

They just haven't had an Enlightenment or Reformation.

No, really.

Well, even the President's pastor is quoted as saying "God, damn America." Guess they're not so different after all.


WTF?
Say hi to the ignore list for this nonsense.
 
2012-09-13 10:13:02 AM

swahnhennessy: dittybopper: Free speech is wrong? Then I don't want to be right.

You suck donkey dick.

Was that right? Sure, I can say it, but should I? What does it accomplish? Pissing you off? I mean, it's not even a witty insult.

Nakoula Basseley Nakoula shouldn't be arrested for being a troll, no. But he needs to be called out for being a bigot and an idiot who made an incredibly stupid video.


Meh. The antidote to speech you find abhorrent is more speech, not less. Does not Islam have a saying similar to "Sticks and stones may break my bones, but names will never hurt me"? That's a lesson we ingrain in our children from an early age. My 8 year old seems to have a better grasp on free speech than those in Benghazi, Cairo, and Yemen.

More importantly, just because something pisses you off doesn't give you the right of veto. If I say something offensive, so what? But if you start killing innocent people because of something I said, you have committed a far, far greater sin against Allah than mere blasphemy.

They would do well to remember that.
 
2012-09-13 10:13:09 AM

Ricardo Klement: doubled99: Muslims are no different than any other religion.
No, really.

They just haven't had an Enlightenment or Reformation.

No, really.


They played an important part in ours, and they did have their Enlightenment, but it was cut short because of the invasion of the Mongols, and the spread of the Black Plague (that came along with the mongols).
 
2012-09-13 10:13:16 AM

CygnusDarius: Joe Blowme: CygnusDarius: Sgt Stubby: Hmmm... looks like somebody on YouTube pulled the old switcherooski on me. The Tom Holland documentary (Islam: The Untold Story) has been replaced with something else called 'islam the untold story', though the replacement is an adoring pro-islam fluff piece .

The REAL, banned documentary has been removed and scrubbed from the Internet... so as not to incite muslim violence.



/the UK is finished

I have you on hurts-my-eyes red, because of bs comments like this.

Truth hurts, huh?

Yes, it can hurt. But the stupid burns even more.


That would explain the burning sensation that comes with your posts
 
2012-09-13 10:13:28 AM

smittyg: Here's hoping this trend continues and the people of the world put ALL of our embassies out of business.


But what will the Ivy Leaguers do for a jobs program if that happens?
 
2012-09-13 10:13:34 AM

smittyg: Here's hoping this trend continues and the people of the world put ALL of our embassies out of business.


Ron Paul, is that you?
 
2012-09-13 10:14:09 AM
Hi, I was in need of "patriotic" blowhards proposing simpleminded non-solutions to complex problems. Ideally, ones that do things like post pictures of weapons in political threads..... (opens thread)... Jackpot!
 
2012-09-13 10:14:39 AM

Lunaville: Waxing_Chewbacca: jakomo002: Waxing_Chewbacca: Boots on the ground would have been Presidents Bush 2"s position. Which is and was insane. This seems to make more sense. Or you would allow these terrorist who are using yeman as a base to live in peace and kill at will? Smart foreign policy you got there. If the peaceful people of Yeman want peace they can always decide not to tolerate the cold blooded killers who live amongst them. You have no ideas. You have coca-cola "I'd like to teach the world to sing" foreign policy.

HAHA! Yeah, if the Yemenis don't want the heavily armed militants to stay, they should just stroll over and ask them to please leave. Haha.

A lot of this is people's reactions to drone strikes and military intervention, so your suggestion is to use drones and military intervention to stop it.

That is rich, buddy. Not very well thought-out, but rich.

My suggestion is to be less paranoid and less cowardly. Yemen is hardly a threat to the USA, and the only Americans they'll kill are there in Yemen. So get them out and leave the country alone.

Your "nation-building" skills are atrocious.

Answer the question. What would be your policy... Buddy. Yeman is not a threat. Correct. The terrorist there-in are. What would you do?

1. End all military aid to Yemen and her neighbors.
2. Issue an advisory against traveling to or doing business in Yemen. Make it clear to American owned companies that they will receive no support, no protection, no intervention if doing business in Yemen becomes problematic.
3. Issue same advisory to NGOs.
4. Maintain or increase humanitarian aid to Yemen as conditions indicate.
5. Invest heavily in wind and solar energy. Invest in hybrid and electric cars. Increase efficiency standards. Invest in mass transit. Seek ways to move our nation from dependency on the one thing that most motivates us to entangle ourselves in the affairs of nations like Yemen.

I know it could be more detailed, but no one wants to be bored t ...


You're awesome, have I said that lately?.
 
2012-09-13 10:15:20 AM

WhyteRaven74: Wodan11: We should pull out all embassies in these nations, cut off all aid, cease all charity organizations erfforts' there.

Great idea let's just make innocent people suffer, that couldn't possibly come back to kick us in the ass.


These people not only take the US for granted, they resent simply being there in their country. You're basically taking a policy of bribery and turning it around, saying if the bribe is removed it will hurt the briber. That's the exact opposite of the rationale that convinces you to try and bribe someone in the first place: give them something to do what you want. You're saying that you have to keep giving them something or they won't do what you want. You're blackmailing yourself, which frankly is idiotic.

Let me point out that they aren't doing what you want anyway. 

The recourse of authoritarian societies (which is what these are... the theocracy is driving these actionsi) is for the people to rebel. These "innocents" have the full power and capacity to enact change. Why should they rock the boat? Answer: they won't, as long as they're getting aid. But if the theocracy costs them their free food and medical aid, they'll blame the theocracy.

Now is the time to pull out, when there is a clear source of blame. You can't do it when there isn't a significant causal factor, or they blame you.
 
2012-09-13 10:15:43 AM

Joe Blowme: CygnusDarius: Joe Blowme: CygnusDarius: Sgt Stubby: Hmmm... looks like somebody on YouTube pulled the old switcherooski on me. The Tom Holland documentary (Islam: The Untold Story) has been replaced with something else called 'islam the untold story', though the replacement is an adoring pro-islam fluff piece .

The REAL, banned documentary has been removed and scrubbed from the Internet... so as not to incite muslim violence.



/the UK is finished

I have you on hurts-my-eyes red, because of bs comments like this.

Truth hurts, huh?

Yes, it can hurt. But the stupid burns even more.

That would explain the burning sensation that comes with your posts


I'm sorry that I keep quoting trolls. It's a thing, you know.
 
2012-09-13 10:18:13 AM
Hillary on CNN right now rejecting content and message of the hateful video.
 
2012-09-13 10:18:47 AM

Bashar and Asma's Infinite Playlist: Sylvia_Bandersnatch: Irony because this whole thing arises from AN UNSUBSTANTIATED RUMOUR. We don't know if the film even exists at all. Yet all this anger and violence abounds due to RUMOURS SPREAD BY THE INTERNET. Sound at all familiar to anyone?

Well a twelve-minute trailer certainly exists. I watched it last night.


What's your point? That a trailer proves the film exists? Please, tell me where I can go see this.
 
2012-09-13 10:18:51 AM
farking uncivilized sand n****r monkeys. They wonder why they have no farking friends and allies. I can't farking stand that shiatty part of the Earth. We'd all be better off blowing up all those sand farks off the face of the Earth.
 
2012-09-13 10:19:15 AM
Rethugs: Hillary calls Islam "great."
 
2012-09-13 10:20:57 AM

Sgt Stubby: Sylvia_Bandersnatch: this whole thing arises from AN UNSUBSTANTIATED RUMOUR. We don't know if the film even exists at all. Yet all this anger and violence abounds due to RUMOURS SPREAD BY THE INTERNET. Sound at all familiar to anyone?


It exists, but it's unwatchable. I've seen a few minutes of it. It's like a bad student's attempt at film school.

On the other hand, there is a REAL documentary about islam on YouTube that is available to anyone. It's quite good and explains how islam is a bogus 'religion' and the so-called prophet mohammad is a made-up character. Naturally, it has been banned from airing in the UK (and would never be shown in the US) because of the fear of muslim violence. Airing the Divinci Code, of course, is permitted.

Oddly, islam isn't rioting over this film. Guess they haven't heard of it yet, and the threats DID prevent it from being shown to the public on regular TV. I guess fark's self-righteous liberals think that its creators should be imprisoned for attempting to 'incite violence'.

Watch the entire movie HERE.


/btw, it will piss off liberals too because it starts off mentioning the original Crusade - i.e. the muslim one


There's something ironically amusing about someone insulting and condemning Islam while unabashedly defending Christianity. Can grown-ups even agree that ALL religions are made up horseshiat?
 
2012-09-13 10:21:08 AM
Hillary is going to the protected speech well.
 
2012-09-13 10:21:39 AM

smittyg: Here's hoping this trend continues and the people of the world put ALL of our embassies out of business.


In what way would that be a good idea?
 
2012-09-13 10:22:08 AM

Sylvia_Bandersnatch: Can grown-ups even agree that ALL religions are made up horseshiat?


Nope. They can only agree that made up shiat is the best reason to murder someone.
 
2012-09-13 10:22:39 AM

Sylvia_Bandersnatch: Can grown-ups even agree that ALL religions are made up horseshiat?


Yes. Religion is group delusion and collective mental illness.
People still do it and believe it and teach their children to do it and believe it, too.
 
2012-09-13 10:22:44 AM

BgJonson79: smittyg: Here's hoping this trend continues and the people of the world put ALL of our embassies out of business.

In what way would that be a good idea?


We'd save a shiat ton in insurance premiums.
 
2012-09-13 10:23:45 AM

Insatiable Jesus: Giltric: And when they throw acid in a womans face because some man looked at her.....it must be due to some movie that came out also.


Why you gotta bring Brazil into this?


It was the best movie Terry Jones ever made. It's all down hill from there.
 
2012-09-13 10:23:51 AM

One Big Ass Mistake America: [i.imgur.com image 700x524]


Straight to troll-ignore permanently. Congratulations, asswit. We already know what would have happened if a Republican were in charge on 9/11 -- they'd ignore years of warning.

Also- you have the order wrong. Obama commented about the video 9 hrs before any of the embassies were attacked. That talking point has been debunked everywhere outside of FOX's Derp Echo. Which I see you are a happy member of.
 
2012-09-13 10:24:40 AM

Sgt Stubby: Sylvia_Bandersnatch: Can grown-ups even agree that ALL religions are made up horseshiat?


You're not allowed to say that about islam.


You gotta show RESPEK, yo. Oh they gonna bus' a cap in yoo ass.
 
2012-09-13 10:25:05 AM

fluffy2097: Sylvia_Bandersnatch: Can grown-ups even agree that ALL religions are made up horseshiat?

Nope. They can only agree that made up shiat is the best reason to murder someone.


Can you please cite a passage in the Christian Testament where Yeshua Ben-Josef says to kill people in His name?
 
2012-09-13 10:25:11 AM

Jacobin: If I were paranoid, I'd say Rove put the video together.


There are those that say....

Who benefits from all of this, Neocons, FOX, Republicans and Israel.

Could be just a coincidence.
 
2012-09-13 10:25:33 AM
So Hillary basically said that the US had nothing to do with that video.
 
2012-09-13 10:26:01 AM
Trolls coming out of the woodwork, in *my* red-meat Fark thread?

/was even more likely than i'd thought
 
2012-09-13 10:26:37 AM

Bigdogdaddy: Rmoney wants a repeat of the Iran hostage cricis because he thinks it will make Obama look "just like Carter". However, Romney doesn't have the CIA to back him like Reagan did by having Bush on the ticket.


No, but he's got Israel itching for a war with Iran, and their apologists in America talking it up non stop on FOX now.
 
2012-09-13 10:26:53 AM

HotIgneous Intruder: So Hillary basically said that the US had nothing to do with that video.


Well, no kidding...

So why'd they go after the embassies again?
 
2012-09-13 10:26:58 AM

BgJonson79: fluffy2097: Sylvia_Bandersnatch: Can grown-ups even agree that ALL religions are made up horseshiat?

Nope. They can only agree that made up shiat is the best reason to murder someone.

Can you please cite a passage in the Christian Testament where Yeshua Ben-Josef says to kill people in His name?


Might as well be asking for a Star Trek quote to justify something.
It's all fiction.
 
2012-09-13 10:27:41 AM

jakomo002: Lunaville: 1. End all military aid to Yemen and her neighbors.
2. Issue an advisory against traveling to or doing business in Yemen. Make it clear to American owned companies that they will receive no support, no protection, no intervention if doing business in Yemen becomes problematic.
3. Issue same advisory to NGOs.
4. Maintain or increase humanitarian aid to Yemen as conditions indicate.
5. Invest heavily in wind and solar energy. Invest in hybrid and electric cars. Increase efficiency standards. Invest in mass transit. Seek ways to move our nation from dependency on the one thing that most motivates us to entangle ourselves in the affairs of nations like Yemen.

Hey now, those are ALL good! Nicely done, sir.

Waxing_Chewbacca: I think a nuanced response would require more details than the example you give. The poster I was responding to seems to feel that the people of Yeman are justified in their protest. That they are justified due to drone strikes. I say they should be protesting their own governments attitude toward the terrorist who are allowed to thrive there and thus necessitate the drone strikes.

Um, no, I'm saying the Yemenis are acting ENTIRELY PREDICTABLY. They sure as hell believe they are justified. Me? Not so much.

And if a Yemeni protests against his government, he gets jailed or a bullet in the face. Are you under the impression that Yemen is a democracy? Hardly. The current leader was installed by the USA because he's willing to "play ball" in return for $$$.

And guess what? The Yemeni militais and terrorists are fighting aginst the Yemeni government, not the US. The Yemeni government is pleased as punch to have a squadron of drones out there able to wipe out anti-Yemeni government dissenters and call them Al Qaeda.

You can read about it all over the internet if you so desire to know the actual facts on the ground in Yemen.


I get your point and I know what the deal is in Yeman. Which is why we use drones. No choice. See? As I said in another post, we likely agree more than you think. Nuance and chat boards don't mix to well! It's easy to miss each others point. If I heave missed some of yours I apologize. Off to work. Good day to you.
 
2012-09-13 10:28:34 AM
Came for the republican feces throwing, leaving satisfied. You're a bunch of gits.
What exactly would you do differently than Obama? Start bombing everyone? Send the marines to start pinning people to walls and shouting "YOU WILL LIKE US!" until they do? There's nothing we can do. So shut your farking hole unless you have something constructive to say about the situation.

Also, Mohummed was a pedofillic camelrapist who liked raping little girls. Also, he was Jewish, just like Jesus.
 
2012-09-13 10:29:33 AM

BgJonson79: HotIgneous Intruder: So Hillary basically said that the US had nothing to do with that video.

Well, no kidding...

So why'd they go after the embassies again?


Because the Xhristian based, Jewish-controlled and Jewish-friendly US government allowed it to be disseminated globally on the internet?

Free speech? Yeah, no.
 
2012-09-13 10:30:37 AM

Lunaville: I assume you realize that I'm going to steal this and add to my own list.


That's fair, since your list is now stuck in my head :)

Waxing_Chewbacca: You are way out there in the blue man. The people who you wish to compromise do NOT compromise. Wow. Teach the world to sing...

Off to work. I enjoyed the sparring. I imagine there are many things we can agree on. Just not this aspect of foreign policy. Have a good day.


You cannot unilaterally declare they are unwilling to compromise. They're human beings, and 9 out of 10 would probably lay down their arms gladly. Why fight if you have what you want, and your life is actually starting to look pretty good.

We have to at least TRY is what I'm saying.

Anyways, thanks for the conversation and take care!
 
2012-09-13 10:30:42 AM

m2313: BullBearMS: whenever the UN's food price index, which measures the monthly change in the price of a basket of food commodities, climbs above 210, the conditions ripen for social unrest around the world.

(Said the researchers behind the study) "on December 13, 2010, we submitted a government report analyzing the repercussions of the global financial crises, and directly identifying the risk of social unrest and political instability due to food prices." Four days later, Mohamed Bouazizi set himself on fire as an act of protest in Tunisia.

Today, the food price index is hovering around 213, where it has stayed for months-just beyond the tip of the identified threshold.


Take a look at this as well.


Their predictions are a little off. From your link: "the average price of staple foods such as maize could more than double in the next 20 years compared with 2010 trend prices,"

Corn has already doubled since 2010, 18 years ahead of schedule.
 
2012-09-13 10:31:26 AM

Joe Six-Keg: No laughing matter. If it weren't obvious this was a planned assault, it is now. This is going to be very bad for some people.


They kinda got the day wrong. Or got inspired.
 
2012-09-13 10:32:04 AM

bborchar: Places where oppression and ignorance reign protest against a country whose culture threatens that...after I got past the shock of it, I just really feel sorry for these people. They will never know peace or stability as long as the many are ruled by the few who use religion and violence as a means of suppression.


But that's what Islam *is*: a violent, totalitarian political ideology dressed up as a religion.

Incidents like these will only continue as long as people keep burying their heads in the sand, wishing things would get better, and blaming the wrong people when terrorists attack.
 
2012-09-13 10:32:05 AM
s1.static.gotsmile.net

/deserves to be raped due to skimpy outfit
 
2012-09-13 10:32:25 AM

HotIgneous Intruder: CreampuffCasperMilktoast: Ricardo Klement: doubled99: Muslims are no different than any other religion.
No, really.

They just haven't had an Enlightenment or Reformation.

No, really.

Well, even the President's pastor is quoted as saying "God, damn America." Guess they're not so different after all.

WTF?
Say hi to the ignore list for this nonsense.


Yeah, it sucks when people say things you don't agree with. That's why R's watch Fox, and D's watch MSNBC. I'm off to watch Sponge Bob now, because a day in the life of a gay sponge and an entrepreneurial crab, is what us Libertarians support.
 
2012-09-13 10:32:27 AM

CygnusDarius: Joe Blowme: CygnusDarius: Joe Blowme: CygnusDarius: Sgt Stubby: Hmmm... looks like somebody on YouTube pulled the old switcherooski on me. The Tom Holland documentary (Islam: The Untold Story) has been replaced with something else called 'islam the untold story', though the replacement is an adoring pro-islam fluff piece .

The REAL, banned documentary has been removed and scrubbed from the Internet... so as not to incite muslim violence.



/the UK is finished

I have you on hurts-my-eyes red, because of bs comments like this.

Truth hurts, huh?

Yes, it can hurt. But the stupid burns even more.

That would explain the burning sensation that comes with your posts

I'm sorry that I keep quoting trolls. It's a thing, you know.


Its ok, i expect nothing less on FARK
 
2012-09-13 10:33:19 AM

Waxing_Chewbacca: I get your point and I know what the deal is in Yeman. Which is why we use drones. No choice. See? As I said in another post, we likely agree more than you think. Nuance and chat boards don't mix to well! It's easy to miss each others point. If I heave missed some of yours I apologize. Off to work. Good day to you.


Well said, and right back at ya. Fark kills nuance sometimes
 
2012-09-13 10:33:49 AM

Joe Blowme: CygnusDarius: The trolls are out in force, huh?.

CygnusDarius: Tinfoil material:

Got me thinking, what if the Republicans contacted terrorist cells to use this against Obama, and win the elections?

Oh look, your right


That why it says tinfoil material, it's not to be taken seriously.
 
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