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2012-09-13 08:12:25 AM

Father_Jack: We don't know what is going on there, and the marines guarding the gates do. If they think they'll need to kill people to protect themselves, im sure they will. Historically speaking, using deadly force against protestors, even unruly rioting ones, has often resulted in things escalating and getting much worse than if the riot had just occurred and blown itself out. As such its employed as a very last resort. Neither you nor I can evaluate whats going on from our comfy computers on different continents. But since we've not heard that deadly force has been used, I suppose we can assume it hasn't been because it doesn't need to be. Im sure the marines know what theyre doing, don't you? Or are you calling our marines cowards?


Those Marines have orders. They have very specific circumstances under which they may use deadly force. Without adequate warning and a relaxation of the rules of engagement, it is very possible that they might not be able to effectively defend an embassy because by they time they realize what is going on, they've been overwhelmed already. That's how the Iranian hostage crisis unfolded.
 
2012-09-13 08:12:43 AM

Man On Pink Corner: Bontesla: You can't incite violence in a way that poses a legitimate and timely threat

You have failed to demonstrate how insulting someone's deity poses a "threat," much less a "legitimate and timely" one.


I didn't fail to mention it. I intentionally excluded it because it wasn't my argument.
 
2012-09-13 08:12:43 AM

Another Government Employee: HotWingConspiracy: Another Government Employee: This ain't pretty. I wonder how long it will take to finally spread to Tel Aviv and Jerusalem?

wat

Look at it like a Colorado Wildfire. All the military actions have been attempts to cut fire lines to keep it from spreading. At this point, all the unrest completely surrounds Israel. Sooner or later, the Muslim majority there WILL join in.


No.
 
2012-09-13 08:13:20 AM
So this is how WWIII starts...over a silly movie.

//Seems strangely appropriate.
 
2012-09-13 08:14:11 AM
Yeman now. Fantastic. I stand solidly behind the President but I gotta say....fark it, let it burn.

/ what's that? World wide gas and oil prices would sky rocket and launch another worldwide depression if the Mid-East isn't stabilized? Grrrrrrr.... Foreign policy is hard. Which is why Mittens shoot first, aim later policy is the most dangerous thing we have heard from anyone or anywhere this entire week.
 
2012-09-13 08:14:18 AM

HotWingConspiracy: ChuDogg: HotWingConspiracy: ChuDogg: Whats funny is that these protests are coming from the salafists who we helped bring to power, its the moderates and liberals who should be the most pissed off at us.

You and Mitt seem to find the death of Americans funny for some reason. Why is that?

You seem to not be able to discuss anything without mentioning mitt romney. Well if we he does win i guess at least we'll be able to watch another round of BDS in the fark comments.

Just drawing a parallel between you and Mitt. But we can leave him out of it, why do you think dead Americans are funny?

/he's not going to win


Please highlight where i said that the death of americans is funny?

Oh wait you cant, because you're a bloviating douchebag trying to change the subject

/dont care
 
2012-09-13 08:15:42 AM
This is gonna be awesome. Nobody, and I mean NO BODY loves drone-striking brown people like Barak "The Brown Bomber" Obama. The skies will be thick with predators soon.
 
2012-09-13 08:15:45 AM

BullBearMS: Hmmm... There was an interesting theory being discussed on Slashdot the other day.

whenever the UN's food price index, which measures the monthly change in the price of a basket of food commodities, climbs above 210, the conditions ripen for social unrest around the world.

(Said the researchers behind the study) "on December 13, 2010, we submitted a government report analyzing the repercussions of the global financial crises, and directly identifying the risk of social unrest and political instability due to food prices." Four days later, Mohamed Bouazizi set himself on fire as an act of protest in Tunisia.

Today, the food price index is hovering around 213, where it has stayed for months-just beyond the tip of the identified threshold.


That's an entirely new and interesting way to think about these events. I think it merits some thought. Thanks for adding it to the comments.
 
2012-09-13 08:16:02 AM

Slaxl: Or... and just throwing this out there, the creator used a fake name because he knew he'd be killed otherwise, people on the street haven't seen it, they just heard someone say "Americans insulted Mohammed, let's go storm their embassy", because it's just that easy.


But we didn't insult the Big Mo. The film said he was a kiddy molester, womanizer and ruthless killer. He was. He had a 6 year old wife. Among lots of other wives, and he killed countless people without mercy. The Koran explicitly states this. (It also says he was born without a foreskin!) So why are they mad about someone confiming their beliefs?
 
2012-09-13 08:16:24 AM
Scarborough tearing Romney a new asshole on morning Joe right now.
 
2012-09-13 08:16:24 AM
Of course, none of this Yemeni anger has anything to do with the fact that the U.S. has been involved in a low-level war there for years.

http://www.wired.com/dangerroom/2012/09/yemen-drone-war/

29 Dead in 8 Days as U.S. Puts Yemen Drone War in Overdrive

29 dead in a little over a week. Nearly 200 gone this year. The White House is stepping up its campaign of drone attacks in Yemen, with four strikes in eight days. And not even the slaying of 10 civilians over the weekend seems to have slowed the pace in the United States' secretive, undeclared war.

TOTALLY unrelated, amirite? I'm sure Yemenis celebrate when they see a foreign government's attack drones in their skies, and they're probably unaffected when those drones bomb the shiat out of their neighbours.

http://www.wired.com/dangerroom/2012/06/yemen-war/all/

After years of sending drones and commandos into Pakistan, Defense Secretary Leon Panetta last week finally admitted the obvious: The US is "fighting a war" there. But American robots and special forces aren't just targeting militants in Pakistan. They're doing the same - with increasing frequency and increasing lethality - in Yemen. The latest drone attack happened early Wednesday in the Yemeni town of Azzan, killing nine people. It's the 23rd strike in Yemen so far this year, according to the Long War Journal. In Pakistan, there have been only 22.

They can't actually defend themsleves against drone attacks, so this is probably the only way they can voice displeasure, by trashing the embassy. Because actions have consequences.
 
2012-09-13 08:16:31 AM
4.bp.blogspot.com
 
2012-09-13 08:16:34 AM

Waxing_Chewbacca: Yeman now. Fantastic. I stand solidly behind the President but I gotta say....fark it, let it burn.

/ what's that? World wide gas and oil prices would sky rocket and launch another worldwide depression if the Mid-East isn't stabilized? Grrrrrrr.... Foreign policy is hard. Which is why Mittens shoot first, aim later policy is the most dangerous thing we have heard from anyone or anywhere this entire week.


Good dhimmi
 
2012-09-13 08:16:55 AM

Nofun: The trolls are really coming out of the woodwork here.


Are you kidding? This is like Christmas morn for these asshats.
 
2012-09-13 08:17:00 AM

Nofun: The trolls are really coming out of the woodwork here.


Its pathetic how many responses they have gotten too. Guess fark as whole has become the short bus of the internet.
 
2012-09-13 08:17:39 AM

Krymson Tyde: He's a war monger when it's politically advantageous for the GOP, but he's a pussy when it's politically advantageous for the GOP.

It's really quite simple.


Kind of like how Reagan was an addled, doddering old simpleton when it was politically advantageous to the Democrats, and some sort of scheming evil genius when it suited them. Even the well-know right-wing comedy show Saturday Night Live noted that interesting dichotomy

BTW, I could substitute "Dubya" for "Reagan" in that sentence and it would mostly fit, except for the "old" part.
 
2012-09-13 08:18:16 AM

nmemkha: While the "outrage" is most likely an excuse to vent anger at the US, they producers of the film were callously negligent. Free Speech is a right, but with every right comes a responsibility. They knew there would be violence at the release of the film and yet they released it anyway. Unfortunately, its not their loved ones who are dying, but innocent people caught up in an unnecessary firestorm.


People who think like this are cowards who want to give away their rights, and everyone else's rights, to placate crazy people in a misguided attempt to feel a little safer. Please keep these kinds of cheap and cowardly opinions to yourself. You make the rest of us look weak.

The people who are responsible for these kinds of attacks don't value anyone's rights or beliefs but their own and want to kill anyone who disagrees with them. It's my right, as a human being, to believe, say, and mock whatever I want. When you say "This is so-and-so's fault for not being too scared to voice their opinion" then you're trying to take away the rights of that person to express themselves. This is not the film makers fault, the only fault lies with the people who are so bigoted and filled with hate that they try to kill anyone who disagrees with them or upsets them.

Stop trying to belittle my rights as a human being with your cowardly fear inspired thoughts. I bet the people responsible for the attacks want everyone in the world to think like you, to be too scared to speak out or stand up for yourself.
 
2012-09-13 08:18:23 AM

jakomo002: Of course, none of this Yemeni anger has anything to do with the fact that the U.S. has been involved in a low-level war there for years.

http://www.wired.com/dangerroom/2012/09/yemen-drone-war/

29 Dead in 8 Days as U.S. Puts Yemen Drone War in Overdrive

29 dead in a little over a week. Nearly 200 gone this year. The White House is stepping up its campaign of drone attacks in Yemen, with four strikes in eight days. And not even the slaying of 10 civilians over the weekend seems to have slowed the pace in the United States' secretive, undeclared war.

TOTALLY unrelated, amirite? I'm sure Yemenis celebrate when they see a foreign government's attack drones in their skies, and they're probably unaffected when those drones bomb the shiat out of their neighbours.

http://www.wired.com/dangerroom/2012/06/yemen-war/all/

After years of sending drones and commandos into Pakistan, Defense Secretary Leon Panetta last week finally admitted the obvious: The US is "fighting a war" there. But American robots and special forces aren't just targeting militants in Pakistan. They're doing the same - with increasing frequency and increasing lethality - in Yemen. The latest drone attack happened early Wednesday in the Yemeni town of Azzan, killing nine people. It's the 23rd strike in Yemen so far this year, according to the Long War Journal. In Pakistan, there have been only 22.

They can't actually defend themsleves against drone attacks, so this is probably the only way they can voice displeasure, by trashing the embassy. Because actions have consequences.


Oh the poor islamic psychos, why can we just let them kill gays and beat their women in peace right?
 
2012-09-13 08:18:41 AM

way south: So instead of blaming it on bad foreign policy or intolerant people who think storming embassies is a good idea, so far Fark has blamed it on:

1. The Jews.
2. Freedom of speech in the US.
3. An amateur film maker.
4. Israel (The Jews).
5. The CIA.
6. Drugs.
7. The Arab Spring.
8. Mitt Romney.


...I can see there won't be much progress in this thread.


so... are you like new around these parts???
 
2012-09-13 08:19:25 AM
From that same Wired article from Sept 5 2012:

On Sunday, at least 10 civilians were not so fortunate. They were killed in a strike gone awry near the town of Rada'a in al-Baitha province. An aircraft - believed to be an American drone - fired a pair of missiles at a vehicle supposedly carrying a local AQAP leader. One of the missiles instead hit a nearby minibus.  A 10-year-old girl and her mother were among the dead. "Families attempted to carry the victims' corpses to the capital, Sana'a, to lay them in front of the residence of newly elected President Abdurabu Hadi, but were sent back by local security forces," according to CNN.

Again, totally unrelated, right? The Yemenis are just mindless Muslim killbots.
 
2012-09-13 08:19:35 AM

WhiskeyBender: The protesters now are unarmed. If we started killing unarmed people now it would create a full on battle before our Marines got there.


A mob of people are never 'unarmed' even if all they have are rocks.

Sgt Stubby: /say, I wonder how islam would react if acid was routinely thrown in the faces of muslim women in the US by the Christian population? Think it would be worse than the cartoon riots?


Nah, that's just proper treatment of women. *barf* More seriously - it'd piss the moderates off and we'd get a different class of people doing the rioting. The extremists would try to use it to motivate the moderates, but while the moderates would be pissed off, the extremists would still come off as falsely outraged.
 
2012-09-13 08:20:35 AM

poe_zlaw: I wonder how many low-budget lame ass movies of been made about America and Christianity in the middle east How many embassies got stormed by peaceloving Americans in the United States?


Good point. Much of the middle east HATE Westerners and are very blatant about the fact.
Do we go around storming their embassies? Do we even say "screw you - solve your own
damn problems"? Nope and nope. They hate us and we accept that as their right to do so.

On the flip side, one nutjob, who is too much of a coward to even use his real name, makes
a really, really bad movie - that is also incredibly offensive - and they take it out on folks
who had absolutely nothing to do with its production or distribution, folks whose only purpose
in being in their country in the first place is to help foster cooperation and diplomatic ties.

The stupid. It burns.
 
2012-09-13 08:21:22 AM

somedude210: poe_zlaw: I wonder how many low-budget lame ass movies of been made about America and Christianity in the middle east How many embassies got stormed by peaceloving Americans in the United States?

I'm gonna assume none, since, you know, there's no proof that they exist.

This, however, was a deliberate attempt to show it to the Muslim world in order to piss them right the fark off.

/wouldn't at all be surprised if this traced back to Team Romney


Or the Koch brothers. They certainly have the funds to buy themselves a few soldiers of fortune.
 
2012-09-13 08:21:29 AM

jakomo002: Of course, none of this Yemeni anger has anything to do with the fact that the U.S. has been involved in a low-level war there for years.

http://www.wired.com/dangerroom/2012/09/yemen-drone-war/

29 Dead in 8 Days as U.S. Puts Yemen Drone War in Overdrive

29 dead in a little over a week. Nearly 200 gone this year. The White House is stepping up its campaign of drone attacks in Yemen, with four strikes in eight days. And not even the slaying of 10 civilians over the weekend seems to have slowed the pace in the United States' secretive, undeclared war.

TOTALLY unrelated, amirite? I'm sure Yemenis celebrate when they see a foreign government's attack drones in their skies, and they're probably unaffected when those drones bomb the shiat out of their neighbours.

http://www.wired.com/dangerroom/2012/06/yemen-war/all/

After years of sending drones and commandos into Pakistan, Defense Secretary Leon Panetta last week finally admitted the obvious: The US is "fighting a war" there. But American robots and special forces aren't just targeting militants in Pakistan. They're doing the same - with increasing frequency and increasing lethality - in Yemen. The latest drone attack happened early Wednesday in the Yemeni town of Azzan, killing nine people. It's the 23rd strike in Yemen so far this year, according to the Long War Journal. In Pakistan, there have been only 22.

They can't actually defend themsleves against drone attacks, so this is probably the only way they can voice displeasure, by trashing the embassy. Because actions have consequences.


Um.... They can by not being the French Riveria of Islamic Extremism. President Bush would have invaded. Think that's better or you on the other side of the spectrum where doing nothing and allowing clear threats to this nation plot, plan and attack US interests? President Obama's drone program has been very effective. Don't want drones in your country? Join the world community and drag your sorry ass out of the 7th century!
 
2012-09-13 08:21:34 AM

AndreMA: Joe Blowme: Islam Religion extremism is a cancer

FTFY


if you're going to fix things for people, you might want to try being correct
 
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2012-09-13 08:21:36 AM

ilambiquated: Yemen is a rough place and has been on the verge of civil war since the beginning of the Arab Spring. It was a sort-of democracy before that. And before that it was two countries and one conquered the other one.

I would expect the American embassy to be pretty heavily guarded. Hope so.

Also Yemen is a beautiful country with an amazing cultural heritage, and Yemen/Ethiopia is one of the world's oldest centers of civilization. The capital, Sana'a, is one of the world's most beautiful cities.

[www.yemen.jp image 800x600]

GIS to see more.


must of taken A LOT of elmers glue to build a sand castle that big. what do they do when it rains?
 
2012-09-13 08:21:46 AM

ekdikeo4

>>> fusillade762: Why does the Islamic world seem to susceptible to trolling?
>>> Can we turn that to our advantage?

oh, the Christians are too.. Just ask Rushdie.

You're blaming "Christians" for the fact that Rushdie had to go into hiding because islam called for his murder?

If your post is sarcasm, you failed at clarity. If your post is serious, you're an epic scale r-tard.
 
2012-09-13 08:22:37 AM

digitalrain: poe_zlaw: I wonder how many low-budget lame ass movies of been made about America and Christianity in the middle east How many embassies got stormed by peaceloving Americans in the United States?

Good point. Much of the middle east HATE Westerners and are very blatant about the fact.
Do we go around storming their embassies? Do we even say "screw you - solve your own
damn problems"? Nope and nope. They hate us and we accept that as their right to do so.

On the flip side, one nutjob, who is too much of a coward to even use his real name, makes
a really, really bad movie - that is also incredibly offensive - and they take it out on folks
who had absolutely nothing to do with its production or distribution, folks whose only purpose
in being in their country in the first place is to help foster cooperation and diplomatic ties.

The stupid. It burns is islam.

FTFY
 
2012-09-13 08:22:39 AM

LL316: nmemkha: While the "outrage" is most likely an excuse to vent anger at the US, they producers of the film were callously negligent. Free Speech is a right, but with every right comes a responsibility. They knew there would be violence at the release of the film and yet they released it anyway. Unfortunately, its not their loved ones who are dying, but innocent people caught up in an unnecessary firestorm.

Totally agree with this, but don't go putting the fault there. The fault lies with the animals who react this way over a movie, not the movie maker himself. It's the rapist, not the low cut dress that commits the bad act.


picard.jpg

Are you farking shiatting me?! I heard this argument yesterday and I still can't farking believe it. When a certain event causes a certain reaction in a populace with 100% repeating rate, if you do that event, you know damn well that populace is going to react as they do when they get word of it unless you live under a farking rock.

There's already a link in this thread where they SAID they knew what I said was true, and that is just willful negligence. They are as guilty for the deaths of the victims as the rioters themselves.

It's not a poor lady getting raped because she wore a low cut dress, it's a lady wearing a low cut dress while walking down an alley famous for rape attacks, with 'come and get it' signs taped on her tits and ass.
 
2012-09-13 08:22:43 AM
 
2012-09-13 08:22:57 AM

ChuDogg: HotWingConspiracy: ChuDogg: HotWingConspiracy: ChuDogg: Whats funny is that these protests are coming from the salafists who we helped bring to power, its the moderates and liberals who should be the most pissed off at us.

You and Mitt seem to find the death of Americans funny for some reason. Why is that?

You seem to not be able to discuss anything without mentioning mitt romney. Well if we he does win i guess at least we'll be able to watch another round of BDS in the fark comments.

Just drawing a parallel between you and Mitt. But we can leave him out of it, why do you think dead Americans are funny?

/he's not going to win

Please highlight where i said that the death of americans is funny?

Oh wait you cant, because you're a bloviating douchebag trying to change the subject

/dont care


So you just find the conditions for getting American's killed funny? You used the word, not me.
 
2012-09-13 08:23:26 AM

Void_Beavis: Bontesla: fusillade762: Why does the Islamic world seem to susceptible to trolling? Can we turn that to our advantage?

I've been raising the same questions in regards to teatards, Republicans, and Fox News viewers. Why don't we start manipulating their insanity to achieve goals we want.

Um I think that's already being done. Problem is, rich whitey plantation owners are at the wheel.


Then you're saying either it hasn't been done or that I'm a rich whitey?

Because I specifically said we should start :)
 
2012-09-13 08:24:12 AM
<b><a href="http://www.fark.com/comments/7324714/79348033#c79348033" target="_blank">Joe Blowme</a>:</b> <i>Waxing_Chewbacca: Yeman now. Fantastic. I stand solidly behind the President but I gotta say....fark it, let it burn.

/ what's that? World wide gas and oil prices would sky rocket and launch another worldwide depression if the Mid-East isn't stabilized? Grrrrrrr.... Foreign policy is hard. Which is why Mittens shoot first, aim later policy is the most dangerous thing we have heard from anyone or anywhere this entire week.

Good dhimmi</i>

Good dhimmi to you!

/ ?
 
2012-09-13 08:24:19 AM

SuperT: ya know, I say just one of these shiat bird dirt holes we should just pick to treat like the romans would. Just say "I'm tired of putting up with your retarded horse shiat, you either come on board, be americans and be cool or we go full 13 legion on your ass". No occupation, just kill the opposition and get on with your day. Remind them that we treat these little pissant extremist with kid gloves because we don't want to hurt the innocent people they hide amoung.


I think I'm missing something here. Are you stating that we should demand that people in Libya and Yemen be and act as Americans?
 
2012-09-13 08:24:58 AM
The Arabs are springing.
 
2012-09-13 08:25:18 AM

Lunaville: somedude210: poe_zlaw: I wonder how many low-budget lame ass movies of been made about America and Christianity in the middle east How many embassies got stormed by peaceloving Americans in the United States?

I'm gonna assume none, since, you know, there's no proof that they exist.

This, however, was a deliberate attempt to show it to the Muslim world in order to piss them right the fark off.

/wouldn't at all be surprised if this traced back to Team Romney

Or the Koch brothers. They certainly have the funds to buy themselves a few soldiers of fortune.


www.lab1663.net
 
2012-09-13 08:25:35 AM

TheKiwiBird: LL316: nmemkha: While the "outrage" is most likely an excuse to vent anger at the US, they producers of the film were callously negligent. Free Speech is a right, but with every right comes a responsibility. They knew there would be violence at the release of the film and yet they released it anyway. Unfortunately, its not their loved ones who are dying, but innocent people caught up in an unnecessary firestorm.

Totally agree with this, but don't go putting the fault there. The fault lies with the animals who react this way over a movie, not the movie maker himself. It's the rapist, not the low cut dress that commits the bad act.

picard.jpg

Are you farking shiatting me?! I heard this argument yesterday and I still can't farking believe it. When a certain event causes a certain reaction in a populace with 100% repeating rate, if you do that event, you know damn well that populace is going to react as they do when they get word of it unless you live under a farking rock.

There's already a link in this thread where they SAID they knew what I said was true, and that is just willful negligence. They are as guilty for the deaths of the victims as the rioters themselves.

It's not a poor lady getting raped because she wore a low cut dress, it's a lady wearing a low cut dress while walking down an alley famous for rape attacks, with 'come and get it' signs taped on her tits and ass.


And if they had attacked the person responsible for the film, you might have an argument. But they didn't, so you don't.
 
2012-09-13 08:26:20 AM
Enough fooling around guys - has anyone heard from Chandler Bing?
 
2012-09-13 08:26:39 AM

wippit: I like your Muhammad.
I do not like your Muslims
Your Muslims are so unlike your Muhammad.


Well, in this case they were like their Muhammad...
 
2012-09-13 08:26:58 AM

Waxing_Chewbacca: Don't want drones in your country? Join the world community and drag your sorry ass out of t ...


The fact that the strongest countries in the world can say inane shiat like that with impunity is a part of the problem.

Few knowledgable people deny that there are idiots everywhere. Why do you keep denying that your leaders aren't idiots, too? You understand that the fact that all of you are dirt-eating, cousin-farking hicks is exactly the problem?
 
2012-09-13 08:27:03 AM
My geopolitical skills are not what they once were so I apologize in advance......

What do we do with the situation as it stands today?
 
2012-09-13 08:27:06 AM

dittybopper: Kind of like how Reagan was an addled, doddering old simpleton when it was politically advantageous to the Democrats


like when he was asleep all during the Iran-Contra thing? That was really advantageous for the Democrats huh?
 
2012-09-13 08:27:36 AM

Lunaville: SuperT: ya know, I say just one of these shiat bird dirt holes we should just pick to treat like the romans would. Just say "I'm tired of putting up with your retarded horse shiat, you either come on board, be americans and be cool or we go full 13 legion on your ass". No occupation, just kill the opposition and get on with your day. Remind them that we treat these little pissant extremist with kid gloves because we don't want to hurt the innocent people they hide amoung.

I think I'm missing something here. Are you stating that we should demand that people in Libya and Yemen be and act as Americans?


I'd settle for civilized human beings
 
2012-09-13 08:27:54 AM

soporific: jso2897: Sgt Stubby: nmemkha: While the "outrage" is most likely an excuse to vent anger at the US, the producers of the film were callously negligent. Free Speech is a right, but with every right comes a responsibility. They knew there would be violence at the release of the film and yet they released it anyway.


That's a great indictment against the insanity and evil of islam. It also sums up the left's apologetic/symbiotic relationship with the global jihad quite succinctly.

Good job!

Man, i don't know. Do you really think it's about this video? At first, I kind of thought it was, but this is looking more and more concerted and coordinated with each passing day. Libya and yemen, in particular, have AlQaeda's fingerprints all over them. The video is an embarrassment to any adult, but I'm starting to doubt that it is really the cause of all this.

This. I don't think the date of these riots and attacks is a coincidence. If Al Qaeda is behind it, they are using the video as a way of manipulating the people into anger. It also provides cover to mask the true cause of these likely coordinated attacks. People in power have always used angry fundamentalists as their useful idiots, getting them all riled up and setting them loose. (See the Tea Party during the Health Care town halls back in 2009.)

Perhaps they are trying to make Obama look bad in retaliation for the death of Bin Ladin among other things. They might want to return to the days when Bush pretty much ignored them and instead destabilized Iraq for them. I might be wrong about that, but I'm pretty sure all this is coordinated.


Well, if I was AlQaeda, the first thing I would want to do is replace Obama with Romney - Romney has promised to build his foreign policy around former Bush people. I imagine AlQaeda longs for the good ol' days of George Bush.
 
2012-09-13 08:28:14 AM

LL316: TheKiwiBird: LL316: nmemkha: While the "outrage" is most likely an excuse to vent anger at the US, they producers of the film were callously negligent. Free Speech is a right, but with every right comes a responsibility. They knew there would be violence at the release of the film and yet they released it anyway. Unfortunately, its not their loved ones who are dying, but innocent people caught up in an unnecessary firestorm.

Totally agree with this, but don't go putting the fault there. The fault lies with the animals who react this way over a movie, not the movie maker himself. It's the rapist, not the low cut dress that commits the bad act.

picard.jpg

Are you farking shiatting me?! I heard this argument yesterday and I still can't farking believe it. When a certain event causes a certain reaction in a populace with 100% repeating rate, if you do that event, you know damn well that populace is going to react as they do when they get word of it unless you live under a farking rock.

There's already a link in this thread where they SAID they knew what I said was true, and that is just willful negligence. They are as guilty for the deaths of the victims as the rioters themselves.

It's not a poor lady getting raped because she wore a low cut dress, it's a lady wearing a low cut dress while walking down an alley famous for rape attacks, with 'come and get it' signs taped on her tits and ass.

And if they had attacked the person responsible for the film, you might have an argument. But they didn't, so you don't.


He's in hiding, because he knows what he did was wrong, and he's afraid that they will get him. I say we hunt him down, pull him out of hiding, and convict him.
 
2012-09-13 08:29:16 AM

wippit: Mr. Shabooboo: I'm so ticked off about the paper cut I got that I wanna storm the Canadian Embassy because the tree
they made the paper from probably came from Canada.. (That was sarcasm people, I ♥ Canada)

Oh yeah?

I saw this controversial film that two idiots in the US made about Canada. That say it was aboot free speech, but I could see the hate in their depiction of flapping heads and crappy WW2-technology in their army. I'm getting ready right now to go storm the US embassy, eh? Fookin hosers!

/fart
/AAAAAAhahahahahaha


And there's the difference folks... 2 idiots made a film ripping on Canada and the Canadians laugh and ignore it and see it for what it is - trolling. An idiot makes a film ripping on Islam and what do you get? a bunch of terrorist thugs who can't think logically and just proved the film's point of Islam's idiocy - kill everyone and everything from the country that the film came out of even tho only one person made this obscure film. Seriously this tiny film no one would have ever seen until they started their acts of violence - they just PROMOTED IT which is beyond stupid on their part. It's seriously like a bunch of brainless monkeys over there. It's time we just nuked the whole middle east and get it over with.
 
2012-09-13 08:29:42 AM

Hobodeluxe: dittybopper: Kind of like how Reagan was an addled, doddering old simpleton when it was politically advantageous to the Democrats

like when he was asleep all during the Iran-Contra thing? That was really advantageous for the Democrats huh?


You didn't read the next sentence, or follow that link, did you?
 
2012-09-13 08:30:08 AM

TheKiwiBird: LL316: TheKiwiBird: LL316: nmemkha: While the "outrage" is most likely an excuse to vent anger at the US, they producers of the film were callously negligent. Free Speech is a right, but with every right comes a responsibility. They knew there would be violence at the release of the film and yet they released it anyway. Unfortunately, its not their loved ones who are dying, but innocent people caught up in an unnecessary firestorm.

Totally agree with this, but don't go putting the fault there. The fault lies with the animals who react this way over a movie, not the movie maker himself. It's the rapist, not the low cut dress that commits the bad act.

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Are you farking shiatting me?! I heard this argument yesterday and I still can't farking believe it. When a certain event causes a certain reaction in a populace with 100% repeating rate, if you do that event, you know damn well that populace is going to react as they do when they get word of it unless you live under a farking rock.

There's already a link in this thread where they SAID they knew what I said was true, and that is just willful negligence. They are as guilty for the deaths of the victims as the rioters themselves.

It's not a poor lady getting raped because she wore a low cut dress, it's a lady wearing a low cut dress while walking down an alley famous for rape attacks, with 'come and get it' signs taped on her tits and ass.

And if they had attacked the person responsible for the film, you might have an argument. But they didn't, so you don't.

He's in hiding, because he knows what he did was wrong, and he's afraid that they will get him. I say we hunt him down, pull him out of hiding, and convict him.


Of what? free speech?
 
2012-09-13 08:30:35 AM

Joe Blowme: Oh the poor islamic psychos, why can we just let them kill gays and beat their women in peace right?


No, but if you constantly kill innocent people in your "stability exercises", they might just band together and try to get you back. Like, say, storming an embassy. Or flying planes into your buildings.

It's human nature to try to get revenge after you're wronged, which is what this is. Predictable even, for anyone who knows what the USA hasd been doing in Yemen to Yemenis.

None of this has to do with "Islamic psychos", it's mostly very very angry citizens of the countries where you've farked the populace over by decades of support of dictators (think Mubarak). The Arab Spring was good, but do you honestly believe that people are just going to forget the last 40 years and suddenly start waving American flags?
 
2012-09-13 08:30:47 AM

robohobo: There's a very nice muslim family who lives down the street from me. Suuuuper hot daughter. Anyhow, I ran into the dad at the grocery store, and he's very face-palmy at the moment. His wife makes an awesome chicken/lamb rice dish, that kills at our barbecue parties

/except not literally, no bombs at our barbecues


Except for Mrs. Pananini's kidney bean jell-o salad,right?

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