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2012-09-13 05:24:51 AM
Submitted this with a worse headline.

No laughing matter. If it weren't obvious this was a planned assault, it is now. This is going to be very bad for some people.
 
2012-09-13 05:25:12 AM
This is why we can't have nice things.
 
2012-09-13 05:26:11 AM
Romney's statement condemning Obama's response to this attack due any minute now.
 
2012-09-13 05:27:05 AM

Tamater: Romney's statement condemning Obama's response to this attack due any minute now.


He retroactively made it yesterday, smirk and all.
 
2012-09-13 05:27:09 AM
It's time to put on your Big Girl Panties and stop acting like a bunch of children.
 
2012-09-13 05:27:49 AM
I thought they equipped all US embassies with that active denial system. It really would've been helpful, here.
 
2012-09-13 05:28:27 AM
Those trendy Yemenis.
 
2012-09-13 05:28:54 AM
That's not very nice. In fact I'd go as far as to say they're being downright rude.
 
2012-09-13 05:29:15 AM

Joe Six-Keg: Submitted this with a worse headline.

No laughing matter. If it weren't obvious this was a planned assault, it is now. This is going to be very bad for some people.


Yes, but who planned it?
www.gmsplace.com
 
2012-09-13 05:29:16 AM
Thoughts are with everyone there. fark extremists of every kind.
 
2012-09-13 05:29:22 AM
Subby here. I thought about including a joke, but knowing the Embassy staff over there is fighting for their lives, just didn't think it was appropriate.
 
2012-09-13 05:30:17 AM
Sweet baby Jesus. The reverb from the Arab Spring. I so want Obama to handle this well; otherwise this is ammo for the rtards & a recipe for disaster
 
2012-09-13 05:33:03 AM

Ed Grubermann: Joe Six-Keg: Submitted this with a worse headline.

No laughing matter. If it weren't obvious this was a planned assault, it is now. This is going to be very bad for some people.

Yes, but who planned it?
[www.gmsplace.com image 217x313]


Not SATAN!!!, that's for sure.

On a serious note, it makes a bit of sense, especially with the anniversary of 9/11 and the recent FRMing of their head guy in Yemen. It's a bit fast for al Qaeda, but then, I wouldn't put it past them taking the opportunity.

RU4C: Subby here. I thought about including a joke, but knowing the Embassy staff over there is fighting for their lives, just didn't think it was appropriate.


RU4C: Subby here. I thought about including a joke, but knowing the Embassy staff over there is fighting for their lives, just didn't think it was appropriate.


Well said. Class on Fark is hard to find.
 
2012-09-13 05:34:18 AM
WTF?!! I'm Irish and WE don't get this stupid even while drunk!
 
2012-09-13 05:35:04 AM
Does this mean the oil finally hit the anus?
 
2012-09-13 05:35:23 AM
Maybe it's time for a round of "Cowboys & Muslims".
 
2012-09-13 05:35:53 AM
Bigotry against the west runs deep.

Hell, bigotry runs deep everywhere.

Even in the US we have problems with it.
 
2012-09-13 05:36:30 AM
Also, aaaargh! Oh shiat! What the farking fark! So pissed off about this shiat.
 
2012-09-13 05:36:34 AM

duckfarkit: Sweet baby Jesus. The reverb from the Arab Spring. I so want Obama to handle this well; otherwise this is ammo for the rtards & a recipe for disaster


Problem is, no matter how the President handles it, it's ammo for the Tea Party/Republicans/Neocons. Pathetic that such things are politicized so freaking badly, and that there are some people who are cheering for the deaths of Americans just to make "the other side" look bad.
 
2012-09-13 05:37:14 AM

Joe Six-Keg: duckfarkit: Sweet baby Jesus. The reverb from the Arab Spring. I so want Obama to handle this well; otherwise this is ammo for the rtards & a recipe for disaster

Problem is, no matter how the President handles it, it's ammo for the Tea Party/Republicans/Neocons. Pathetic that such things are politicized so freaking badly, and that there are some people who are cheering for the deaths of Americans just to make "the other side" look bad.


Do you realize the irony in your post?
 
2012-09-13 05:37:39 AM
In other news, the maker of the film that started it all has gone into hiding, his spokesman was chosen because he leads anti-Islamic protests at mosques and schools, and the cast claims that much of the dialogue was dubbed in without their knowledge or consent.

Link

Also...

"We went into this knowing this was probably going to happen"
 
2012-09-13 05:38:25 AM
So, I haven't FTFA yet but is this more Libya or more Cairo?
 
2012-09-13 05:38:30 AM

quantum_jellyroll: Maybe it's time for a round of "Cowboys & Muslims".


Or maybe, "Regan and Russians". Just substitute 'Muslims' for 'Russians'. I really, really hope Obama steps up and kicks some ass.
 
2012-09-13 05:38:59 AM

cman: Joe Six-Keg: duckfarkit: Sweet baby Jesus. The reverb from the Arab Spring. I so want Obama to handle this well; otherwise this is ammo for the rtards & a recipe for disaster

Problem is, no matter how the President handles it, it's ammo for the Tea Party/Republicans/Neocons. Pathetic that such things are politicized so freaking badly, and that there are some people who are cheering for the deaths of Americans just to make "the other side" look bad.

Do you realize the irony in your post?


I think it would be more ironic if we were all made of iron.

/yes, yes I do.
 
2012-09-13 05:39:19 AM
While the "outrage" is most likely an excuse to vent anger at the US, they producers of the film were callously negligent. Free Speech is a right, but with every right comes a responsibility. They knew there would be violence at the release of the film and yet they released it anyway. Unfortunately, its not their loved ones who are dying, but innocent people caught up in an unnecessary firestorm.
 
2012-09-13 05:40:52 AM
Hey, someone get on the horn to Obama and let him know we may want to beef up security around our middle eastern embassies ASAP.
 
2012-09-13 05:41:28 AM
Who benefits the most from an America that is outraged at Islamists?

My Christmas lights are tangled.
 
2012-09-13 05:41:49 AM
Wow... so you _can_ motivate yeminites to do something beside chew qat...
 
2012-09-13 05:43:02 AM

Ed Grubermann: It's time to put on your Big Girl Panties and stop acting like a bunch of children.


This.
 
2012-09-13 05:43:12 AM
I wonder how many low-budget lame ass movies of been made about America and Christianity in the middle east How many embassies got stormed by peaceloving Americans in the United States?
 
2012-09-13 05:43:13 AM
Yumpin Yeminis
 
2012-09-13 05:43:55 AM
picard.jpg
 
2012-09-13 05:44:18 AM

Badgers: Wow... so you _can_ motivate yeminites to do something beside chew qat...


By George, you're right. FTA: "Witnesses said Yemeni security forces opened fire on demonstrators as they tried to scale the walls of the American compound..."
 
2012-09-13 05:44:47 AM
Mittens: 'Let us not get distracted by this nonsense. Russia is our number one threat.'
 
2012-09-13 05:44:49 AM

duckfarkit: Also, aaaargh! Oh shiat! What the farking fark! So pissed off about this shiat.


Couldn't have said it better.
/calm
//calm is what we need right now.
 
2012-09-13 05:45:00 AM
We should hand that film maker and Terry Jones over to some Muslim clerics.
 
2012-09-13 05:45:20 AM

Cpl.D: I thought they equipped all US embassies with that active denial system




You know what looks worse in the media than your embassy gettin' a little B&E? Unleashing automatic weapons on unarmed civilians. Hell, we're still learning about a handful of musket balls launched more than 200 years ago at a couple early Bostonians who you probably would have shot too.

As bad as riots get, active denial systems aren't for mere flag burning and trespass. That's why they keep the weapons in the secure areas, which weren't raided.
 
2012-09-13 05:45:25 AM

common sense is an oxymoron: In other news, the maker of the film that started it all has gone into hiding, his spokesman was chosen because he leads anti-Islamic protests at mosques and schools, and the cast claims that much of the dialogue was dubbed in without their knowledge or consent.

Link

Also...

"We went into this knowing this was probably going to happen"


link raises more questions than it answers. what a tangled web they weave.
 
2012-09-13 05:45:42 AM

nmemkha: While the "outrage" is most likely an excuse to vent anger at the US, they producers of the film were callously negligent. Free Speech is a right, but with every right comes a responsibility. They knew there would be violence at the release of the film and yet they released it anyway. Unfortunately, its not their loved ones who are dying, but innocent people caught up in an unnecessary firestorm.


Totally agree with this, but don't go putting the fault there. The fault lies with the animals who react this way over a movie, not the movie maker himself. It's the rapist, not the low cut dress that commits the bad act.
 
2012-09-13 05:45:42 AM

cman: Joe Six-Keg: duckfarkit: Sweet baby Jesus. The reverb from the Arab Spring. I so want Obama to handle this well; otherwise this is ammo for the rtards & a recipe for disaster

Problem is, no matter how the President handles it, it's ammo for the Tea Party/Republicans/Neocons. Pathetic that such things are politicized so freaking badly, and that there are some people who are cheering for the deaths of Americans just to make "the other side" look bad.

Do you realize the irony in your post?


Oops!

But then again, it's an inconveniently-timed terrible bag of shiat farking situation up the pookie-gorbling schnizz.

And it's giving me Tourette's.
 
2012-09-13 05:45:51 AM
The world is going crazy. Buy gold.
 
2012-09-13 05:45:57 AM
Why does the Islamic world seem to susceptible to trolling? Can we turn that to our advantage?
 
2012-09-13 05:46:03 AM
And Egypt's having a running ongoing eight hour riot in the embassy outside of Cairo. A couple hundred protesters with molotovs and rocks versus tear gas and vehicles and they seem evenly matched.
Different crowd too.
The one that stormed the embassy in Cairo was apparently conservative/Islamic.
This crowd is young/Ultra/nihilistic street youth focusing on the police instead of the embassy.
 
2012-09-13 05:46:13 AM

Ed Grubermann: It's time to put on your Big Girl Panties and stop acting like a bunch of children.


But I don't have any Big Girl Panties. Do I have to get them off an actual Big Girl, or can I buy them in a shop?

Anyway, how does wearing panties and doing adult things on webcam defend against the legions of Al Qaida? All it does is get a bunch of filthy, man-lusting pervert stuck in chat rooms for hours...

...oh, you are so clever. Someone call Ghastly!

/putting on panties now -- for Freedom!
 
2012-09-13 05:47:00 AM

poe_zlaw: i have hoped and prayed since 2008 that Obama would get his own 9/11.


"poe's law" or not, I hope you choke on a cock.
 
2012-09-13 05:47:40 AM
not good
 
2012-09-13 05:48:02 AM

LL316: nmemkha: While the "outrage" is most likely an excuse to vent anger at the US, they producers of the film were callously negligent. Free Speech is a right, but with every right comes a responsibility. They knew there would be violence at the release of the film and yet they released it anyway. Unfortunately, its not their loved ones who are dying, but innocent people caught up in an unnecessary firestorm.

Totally agree with this, but don't go putting the fault there. The fault lies with the animals who react this way over a movie, not the movie maker himself. It's the rapist, not the low cut dress that commits the bad act.


The film was purposely made to antagonize. Demonstrating how I raped your lover in front of you is bound to elicit a negative reaction right? Its not my fault you got angry and assaulted me, right?
 
2012-09-13 05:49:26 AM
 
2012-09-13 05:50:04 AM
Now, where did I bury that bunker...
 
2012-09-13 05:50:11 AM
I'm not sure they have any clue who the actual guy is behind the film. This smacks of some undercover shiat. And honestly... I'm not entirely Israel wouldn't do something like this. They certainly stand to gain from us goin all pimp-hand in the ME.

http://worldnews.nbcnews.com/_news/2012/09/12/13824981-questions-swir l -around-anti-islam-film-blamed-for-egypt-protest-attack-in-libya?lite
 
2012-09-13 05:50:11 AM
www.freewoodpost.com

Obama's apologist stance of America has allowed another tragedy of this nature to occur. I say we take a 2 step approach here, 1. Never apologize for being free and 2.Elect real leadership to the White House. Muhammed was a liar and a fraud. Thank you
 
2012-09-13 05:50:28 AM
Hi America, from a foreigner

Please secure your people in all embassies, consulates and missions around the world. There is obviously a concerted effort to attack you at the moment.

Please rest assured that, as long as your reaction to these events is rational, the rest of the world is with you.

Please don't invade anyone.

Thx, ROW.
 
2012-09-13 05:50:46 AM

nmemkha: LL316: nmemkha: While the "outrage" is most likely an excuse to vent anger at the US, they producers of the film were callously negligent. Free Speech is a right, but with every right comes a responsibility. They knew there would be violence at the release of the film and yet they released it anyway. Unfortunately, its not their loved ones who are dying, but innocent people caught up in an unnecessary firestorm.

Totally agree with this, but don't go putting the fault there. The fault lies with the animals who react this way over a movie, not the movie maker himself. It's the rapist, not the low cut dress that commits the bad act.

The film was purposely made to antagonize. Demonstrating how I raped your lover in front of you is bound to elicit a negative reaction right? Its not my fault you got angry and assaulted me, right?


The filmmaker was a dumbass for trying to stir up trouble, and the people responding like rabid dogs need to grow the hell up. They all fail as human beings.
 
2012-09-13 05:50:47 AM

duckfarkit: Sweet baby Jesus. The reverb from the Arab Spring. I so want Obama to handle this well; otherwise this is ammo for the rtards & a recipe for disaster


No it's not, dumbass. Yemen hasn't had a spring - the whole country is bonkers. Can't imagine the US left it unguarded.
 
2012-09-13 05:50:49 AM

fusillade762: Why does the Islamic world seem to susceptible to trolling? Can we turn that to our advantage?


They respond very well to Allah Worms.
 
2012-09-13 05:51:06 AM
I'm so ticked off about the paper cut I got that I wanna storm the Canadian Embassy because the tree
they made the paper from probably came from Canada.. (That was sarcasm people, I ♥ Canada)

That is the same kind of asinine logic were seeing here..I doubt the people killed in Libya had even heard of
this stupid movie..
 
2012-09-13 05:51:25 AM
Oh this thread is gonna have some derp.

/grabs popcorn
 
2012-09-13 05:51:56 AM

BullBearMS: Hmmm... There was an interesting theory being discussed on Slashdot the other day.

whenever the UN's food price index, which measures the monthly change in the price of a basket of food commodities, climbs above 210, the conditions ripen for social unrest around the world.

(Said the researchers behind the study) "on December 13, 2010, we submitted a government report analyzing the repercussions of the global financial crises, and directly identifying the risk of social unrest and political instability due to food prices." Four days later, Mohamed Bouazizi set himself on fire as an act of protest in Tunisia.

Today, the food price index is hovering around 213, where it has stayed for months-just beyond the tip of the identified threshold.


And then the discussion devolved into a flamewar about the privacy concerns surrounding how the study was conducted.
 
2012-09-13 05:52:05 AM

Joe Six-Keg: That takes time. Even getting a couple of platoons to a hotspot can take hours, especially when you have hostiles in area. The "good" thing is there's a ton of hurt in the area already, and backup is likely inbound. Not sure where everything is in the Gulf at this time, but I can tell you: there are probably a lot of very motivated Marines en route, with a few drones to help with recon. Hopefully common sense and/or self-preservation breaks out there soon.


Two US navy ships with tomahawks aboard are headed towards Libya, surveillance drones are already there, and more marines are being sent for the embassy.
As far as Yemen goes, we've been droning that place up worse than Pakistan and Somalia.
I bet Assad and the Bahrainis are glad to have the cameras off of them for a news cycle.
 
2012-09-13 05:53:23 AM
First line of TFA:

Protesters angry over an obscure film critical of Islam's Prophet Muhammad stormed the U.S. Embassy in Sanaa, Yemen, on Thursday, as unrest that led to the deaths of a U.S. ambassador and three other Americans in Libya spread to other countries in the region.

Bullshiat. Bullshiat. Bullshiat.

The producer of this film turns out to not exist. The screening that so upset the Muslim world never happened. News organizations have yet to find any Muslim on the street who has seen it, most of those interviewed hadn't even heard of it.

This stinks to high heaven.

We are being used, yet again.
 
2012-09-13 05:53:50 AM
Threat level at HS is level 3. I'd jack it to 2, personally. If people are defying gunfire to scale walls, whose to say a bunch won't try to take a plane and do some copycatting...

/glad I'm not going anywhere
 
2012-09-13 05:53:55 AM

poe_zlaw: I wonder how many low-budget lame ass movies of been made about America and Christianity in the middle east How many embassies got stormed by peaceloving Americans in the United States?


I'm gonna assume none, since, you know, there's no proof that they exist.

This, however, was a deliberate attempt to show it to the Muslim world in order to piss them right the fark off.

/wouldn't at all be surprised if this traced back to Team Romney
 
2012-09-13 05:54:22 AM

m2313: Joe Six-Keg: That takes time. Even getting a couple of platoons to a hotspot can take hours, especially when you have hostiles in area. The "good" thing is there's a ton of hurt in the area already, and backup is likely inbound. Not sure where everything is in the Gulf at this time, but I can tell you: there are probably a lot of very motivated Marines en route, with a few drones to help with recon. Hopefully common sense and/or self-preservation breaks out there soon.

Two US navy ships with tomahawks aboard are headed towards Libya, surveillance drones are already there, and more marines are being sent for the embassy.
As far as Yemen goes, we've been droning that place up worse than Pakistan and Somalia.
I bet Assad and the Bahrainis are glad to have the cameras off of them for a news cycle.


I was aware of the Navy ships heading to Libya, but I wasn't aware that Bahrain was under such scrutiny... Interesting.
 
2012-09-13 05:55:02 AM

BullBearMS: whenever the UN's food price index, which measures the monthly change in the price of a basket of food commodities, climbs above 210, the conditions ripen for social unrest around the world.

(Said the researchers behind the study) "on December 13, 2010, we submitted a government report analyzing the repercussions of the global financial crises, and directly identifying the risk of social unrest and political instability due to food prices." Four days later, Mohamed Bouazizi set himself on fire as an act of protest in Tunisia.

Today, the food price index is hovering around 213, where it has stayed for months-just beyond the tip of the identified threshold.



Take a look at this as well.
 
2012-09-13 05:55:29 AM

LL316: Totally agree with this, but don't go putting the fault there. The fault lies with the animals who react this way over a movie, not the movie maker himself.


"This machine has a horrible design flaw. Pushing this sequence of buttons can cause a blade to come out the side and kill an innocent pedestrian. Excuse me while I demonstrate!"



"Why are you acting like I did something wrong? The fault lies with the manufacture for creating a machine that reacts this way over a button press"
 
2012-09-13 05:56:28 AM

LL316: nmemkha: While the "outrage" is most likely an excuse to vent anger at the US, they producers of the film were callously negligent. Free Speech is a right, but with every right comes a responsibility. They knew there would be violence at the release of the film and yet they released it anyway. Unfortunately, its not their loved ones who are dying, but innocent people caught up in an unnecessary firestorm.

Totally agree with this, but don't go putting the fault there. The fault lies with the animals who react this way over a movie, not the movie maker himself. It's the rapist, not the low cut dress that commits the bad act.


This movie wasn't a low-cut dress; it was a nude lap dancer whispering "let's do it" in the guy's ear.
 
2012-09-13 05:57:04 AM

cman: Bigotry against the west runs deep.

Hell, bigotry runs deep everywhere.


True, and when bigots taunt other bigots with offensive videos, then shiat meets fan.
 
2012-09-13 05:57:06 AM
fark them, start picking them off the fence like squirrels with aimed shots and the crowd will disperse. This shiat is getting retarded, as if it wasn't retarded enough already.
 
2012-09-13 05:57:09 AM
(There was supposed to be much death of innocent pedestrians via demonstration in between that got left out due to my poor posting skills).
 
2012-09-13 05:57:14 AM

Cpl.D: I thought they equipped all US embassies with that active denial system. It really would've been helpful, here.


They bought the units and installed them in some places.
Then some bigwig had them recalled before testing because they were too controversial.

/More controversial than having our embassy ransacked, it seems.
/Scientific advancement cant always make up for bad decisions.
 
2012-09-13 05:57:51 AM

Insatiable Jesus: First line of TFA:

Protesters angry over an obscure film critical of Islam's Prophet Muhammad stormed the U.S. Embassy in Sanaa, Yemen, on Thursday, as unrest that led to the deaths of a U.S. ambassador and three other Americans in Libya spread to other countries in the region.

Bullshiat. Bullshiat. Bullshiat.

The producer of this film turns out to not exist. The screening that so upset the Muslim world never happened. News organizations have yet to find any Muslim on the street who has seen it, most of those interviewed hadn't even heard of it.

This stinks to high heaven.

We are being used, yet again.


No bet there. This is too concerted to be just a "fark with the US" plot. The question in every situation like this is "who benefits?"
 
2012-09-13 05:58:14 AM
There's a very nice muslim family who lives down the street from me. Suuuuper hot daughter. Anyhow, I ran into the dad at the grocery store, and he's very face-palmy at the moment. His wife makes an awesome chicken/lamb rice dish, that kills at our barbecue parties

/except not literally, no bombs at our barbecues
 
2012-09-13 05:58:45 AM

somedude210: /wouldn't at all be surprised if this traced back to Team Romney


www.humanevents.com

That's simply not true, Obama's apologetic stance on America is what causes these awful tragedies that befell our Embassies abroad. If you send me to the White House in November, I promise I will never apologize for American films and American Freedoms™ Stay with Christ
 
2012-09-13 05:58:59 AM
Bit'O'Gristle

fark them, start picking them off the fence like squirrels with aimed shots and the crowd will disperse. This shiat is getting retarded, as if it wasn't retarded enough already.


Sentence fragment. Who is supposed to be doing this shooting?
 
2012-09-13 05:59:20 AM
Huh, I thought all you had to do was garrison an extra two spearmen to quell the unrest. Civilization, you have failed me....
 
2012-09-13 05:59:42 AM

nmemkha: LL316: nmemkha: While the "outrage" is most likely an excuse to vent anger at the US, they producers of the film were callously negligent. Free Speech is a right, but with every right comes a responsibility. They knew there would be violence at the release of the film and yet they released it anyway. Unfortunately, its not their loved ones who are dying, but innocent people caught up in an unnecessary firestorm.

Totally agree with this, but don't go putting the fault there. The fault lies with the animals who react this way over a movie, not the movie maker himself. It's the rapist, not the low cut dress that commits the bad act.

The film was purposely made to antagonize. Demonstrating how I raped your lover in front of you is bound to elicit a negative reaction right? Its not my fault you got angry and assaulted me, right?


Yeah and skimpy dresses are purposely worn to arouse.
 
2012-09-13 06:00:19 AM

RU4C: Subby here. I thought about including a joke, but knowing the Embassy staff over there is fighting for their lives, just didn't think it was appropriate.


Fark being more sensitive/respectful than a presidential candidate...weird.
 
2012-09-13 06:00:31 AM
ya know, I say just one of these shiat bird dirt holes we should just pick to treat like the romans would. Just say "I'm tired of putting up with your retarded horse shiat, you either come on board, be americans and be cool or we go full 13 legion on your ass". No occupation, just kill the opposition and get on with your day. Remind them that we treat these little pissant extremist with kid gloves because we don't want to hurt the innocent people they hide amoung.
 
2012-09-13 06:00:32 AM

Mr. Shabooboo: I'm so ticked off about the paper cut I got that I wanna storm the Canadian Embassy because the tree
they made the paper from probably came from Canada.. (That was sarcasm people, I ♥ Canada)


Oh yeah?

I saw this controversial film that two idiots in the US made about Canada. That say it was aboot free speech, but I could see the hate in their depiction of flapping heads and crappy WW2-technology in their army. I'm getting ready right now to go storm the US embassy, eh? Fookin hosers!

/fart
/AAAAAAhahahahahaha
 
2012-09-13 06:01:11 AM

Coming on a Bicycle:

Yeah and skimpy dresses are purposely worn to arouse.



Aren't they?
 
2012-09-13 06:01:19 AM
They hate the way they're portrayed in media, only to portray themselves poorly on the world stage.
 
2012-09-13 06:01:24 AM

opiumpoopy: duckfarkit: Sweet baby Jesus. The reverb from the Arab Spring. I so want Obama to handle this well; otherwise this is ammo for the rtards & a recipe for disaster

No it's not, dumbass. Yemen hasn't had a spring - the whole country is bonkers. Can't imagine the US left it unguarded.


Two out of three ain't bad?

Paradise by the dashboard light?
 
2012-09-13 06:01:59 AM

Emracool the Aeons Hip: somedude210: /wouldn't at all be surprised if this traced back to Team Romney

[www.humanevents.com image 620x447]

That's simply not true, Obama's apologetic stance on America is what causes these awful tragedies that befell our Embassies abroad. If you send me to the White House in November, I promise I will never apologize for American films and American Freedoms™ Stay with ChristJoe Smith


FTFY, and that dude needs to STFU.

signaljammer: Bit'O'Gristle

fark them, start picking them off the fence like squirrels with aimed shots and the crowd will disperse. This shiat is getting retarded, as if it wasn't retarded enough already.

Sentence fragment. Who is supposed to be doing this shooting?


According to reports, Yemeni forces are doing the shooting.
 
2012-09-13 06:02:15 AM
I think there is substance as well as insult here. We do (nearly uniquely) support the Zionists. We do install/maintain despotic regimes in order to nick oil, lest we forget.
 
2012-09-13 06:02:23 AM

SuperT: ya know, I say just one of these shiat bird dirt holes we should just pick to treat like the romans would. Just say "I'm tired of putting up with your retarded horse shiat, you either come on board, be americans and be cool or we go full 13 legion on your ass". No occupation, just kill the opposition and get on with your day. Remind them that we treat these little pissant extremist with kid gloves because we don't want to hurt the innocent people they hide amoung.


then we have a whole other issue. The great thing going for the Romans was that they were the only empire in the known world. We have several right now, so if we did something like that, the world would go apeshiat and we'd be held accountable
 
2012-09-13 06:02:50 AM

steerforth: Hi America, from a foreigner

Please secure your people in all embassies, consulates and missions around the world. There is obviously a concerted effort to attack you at the moment.

Please rest assured that, as long as your reaction to these events is rational, the rest of the world is with you.

Please don't invade anyone.

Thx, ROW.


/Ya, kinda hard to get in the mood for a multi cultural campfire and sing along when they are firing rpg's and Ak's at our people, and burning down our houses. But i hear ya.
 
2012-09-13 06:03:09 AM
ShannonKW:

Hey, where in Saudi are you?
 
2012-09-13 06:03:21 AM
So, how about arresting the one who made the film and charge him with murder and inflicting riots?

If you can charge a fleeing criminal with murder when police shoot some bystanders, you can charge the religious lunatic who made the movie as well.
 
2012-09-13 06:03:28 AM

wippit: Mr. Shabooboo: I'm so ticked off about the paper cut I got that I wanna storm the Canadian Embassy because the tree
they made the paper from probably came from Canada.. (That was sarcasm people, I ♥ Canada)

Oh yeah?

I saw this controversial film that two idiots in the US made about Canada. That say it was aboot free speech, but I could see the hate in their depiction of flapping heads and crappy WW2-technology in their army. I'm getting ready right now to go storm the US embassy, eh? Fookin hosers!

/fart
/AAAAAAhahahahahaha


storyfanatic.com
 
2012-09-13 06:04:38 AM
Why the hell you accept a diplomatic posting in Yemen?!

Good luck guys.
 
2012-09-13 06:04:38 AM
regardless of your religious, political or philosophical opinions, I do not actually think anyone is hoping for more bloodshed.

But since the rabble has roused...
 
2012-09-13 06:04:40 AM

somedude210: SuperT: ya know, I say just one of these shiat bird dirt holes we should just pick to treat like the romans would. Just say "I'm tired of putting up with your retarded horse shiat, you either come on board, be americans and be cool or we go full 13 legion on your ass". No occupation, just kill the opposition and get on with your day. Remind them that we treat these little pissant extremist with kid gloves because we don't want to hurt the innocent people they hide amoung.

then we have a whole other issue. The great thing going for the Romans was that they were the only empire in the known world. We have several right now, so if we did something like that, the world would go apeshiat and we'd be held accountable


I know, but sometimes I feel like we're a grown up being tormented by toddlers who are trying to punch us. yea, they can't really hurt us, and we could wreck their farking day without serious effort, but we don't because it wouldn't be the right thing to do. But we also aren't correcting this behavior.
 
2012-09-13 06:05:05 AM

Bit'O'Gristle: fark them, start picking them off the fence like squirrels with aimed shots and the crowd will disperse. This shiat is getting retarded, as if it wasn't retarded enough already.


Yes, it's been getting retarded and you're a big part of that. Congrats.
/yea, I'm just talking about the comment's on fark today, well yesterday, I guess.
 
2012-09-13 06:05:34 AM

Insatiable Jesus: Bullshiat. Bullshiat. Bullshiat.

The producer of this film turns out to not exist. The screening that so upset the Muslim world never happened. News organizations have yet to find any Muslim on the street who has seen it, most of those interviewed hadn't even heard of it.

This stinks to high heaven.

We are being used, yet again.


A "Gulf of Tonkin" is being engineered by those who want us to get mired in yet another war over there. Anywhere. Because war means money for some people. And they're not waiting for a change of administration, especially since this administration is probably going to be re-elected. And if Obama doesn't get re-elected, they can blame him for starting the war.

This is my tinfoil. Get your own.
 
2012-09-13 06:05:47 AM

Shirley Ujest: We should hand that film maker and Terry Jones over to some Muslim clerics.


Because the logical thing to do when Americans are attacked, is to help them kill more Americans.

/the return of appeasement
//now with added preemptive execution of anyone with the potential to become the next Winston Churchill
 
2012-09-13 06:06:05 AM

fusillade762: Why does the Islamic world seem to susceptible to trolling? Can we turn that to our advantage?


oh, the Christians are too.. Just ask Rushdie.
 
2012-09-13 06:06:12 AM
RU4C: Subby here. I thought about including a joke, but knowing the Embassy staff over there is fighting for their lives, just didn't think it was appropriate.

Well said. Class on Fark is hard to find.

Thank you for those kind words on an internet message board. I guess I was just the kid who could never rob the hooker in GTA. She did her job and deserves that money.
 
2012-09-13 06:06:32 AM

wippit: Mr. Shabooboo: I'm so ticked off about the paper cut I got that I wanna storm the Canadian Embassy because the tree
they made the paper from probably came from Canada.. (That was sarcasm people, I ♥ Canada)

Oh yeah?

I saw this controversial film that two idiots in the US made about Canada. That say it was aboot free speech, but I could see the hate in their depiction of flapping heads and crappy WW2-technology in their army. I'm getting ready right now to go storm the US embassy, eh? Fookin hosers!

/fart
/AAAAAAhahahahahaha


Hey I think your on to something lets blame Canada!

Hey! Everyone! This is Canada's bad, and they apologize. Go back to work now k thx bia.
 
2012-09-13 06:07:19 AM
This has nothing to do with the stupid film. Most if not all of the morans attacking the embassy haven't even heard of it, let alone seen it. And even if they had, how is it America's fault? Or the people inside the embassy? The American government didn't hire them to make it, they don't approve of it, but somehow they seem to be using this as an excuse for killing people. So i guess to a radical Islamic, burning people alive and shooting them is much less horrid than a stupid short about Mohammad. I just don't understand the logic.
 
2012-09-13 06:07:57 AM
Quit freaking out. We got attacked in Libya by an Al Qaeda cell. The stuff in Egypt and Yemen so far just look like normal, every day, pissed-off Muslim demonstrations, orchestrated by Islamists, but not particularly dangerous. Neither of these things are new, nor do they call for "kicking ass" or any other response other than beefing up security against actual terrorists while talking in a soothing voice to the nice rioting mob, There, there, Muhammed isn't being dissed by the US government, there, there.
 
2012-09-13 06:08:26 AM

RU4C: I guess I was just the kid who could never rob the hooker in GTA. She did her job and deserves that money.


Oh c'mon, half the fun is killing the whore with a satchel bomb and getting your money back.
 
2012-09-13 06:09:20 AM

digistil: Mittens: 'Let us not get distracted by this nonsense. Russia The Soviet Union is our number one threat.'


FTFY.

/it IS still 1989, right?

Bit'O'Gristle: fark them, start picking them off the fence like squirrels with aimed shots and the crowd will disperse. This shiat is getting retarded, as if it wasn't retarded enough already.


Yes. Because killing already rioting civilians won't cause bigger problems. Brilliant plan. Wonder why they haven't thought of it yet?
 
2012-09-13 06:09:25 AM

bubo_sibiricus: Insatiable Jesus: Bullshiat. Bullshiat. Bullshiat.

The producer of this film turns out to not exist. The screening that so upset the Muslim world never happened. News organizations have yet to find any Muslim on the street who has seen it, most of those interviewed hadn't even heard of it.

This stinks to high heaven.

We are being used, yet again.

A "Gulf of Tonkin" is being engineered by those who want us to get mired in yet another war over there. Anywhere. Because war means money for some people. And they're not waiting for a change of administration, especially since this administration is probably going to be re-elected. And if Obama doesn't get re-elected, they can blame him for starting the war.

This is my tinfoil. Get your own.


Biggest problem is this administration won't go full hot war on a bunch of protesters, and will instead use special operations forces as a scalpel, rather than a division of tanks and troops and all like a bludgeon. I'm hoping that line of thought continues.
 
2012-09-13 06:09:35 AM

bubo_sibiricus: Insatiable Jesus: Bullshiat. Bullshiat. Bullshiat.

The producer of this film turns out to not exist. The screening that so upset the Muslim world never happened. News organizations have yet to find any Muslim on the street who has seen it, most of those interviewed hadn't even heard of it.

This stinks to high heaven.

We are being used, yet again.

A "Gulf of Tonkin" is being engineered by those who want us to get mired in yet another war over there. Anywhere. Because war means money for some people. And they're not waiting for a change of administration, especially since this administration is probably going to be re-elected. And if Obama doesn't get re-elected, they can blame him for starting the war.

This is my tinfoil. Get your own.


Sop children what's that that sound
/I got my tinfoil :/
 
2012-09-13 06:09:53 AM

bubo_sibiricus: Insatiable Jesus: Bullshiat. Bullshiat. Bullshiat.

The producer of this film turns out to not exist. The screening that so upset the Muslim world never happened. News organizations have yet to find any Muslim on the street who has seen it, most of those interviewed hadn't even heard of it.

This stinks to high heaven.

We are being used, yet again.

A "Gulf of Tonkin" is being engineered by those who want us to get mired in yet another war over there. Anywhere. Because war means money for some people. And they're not waiting for a change of administration, especially since this administration is probably going to be re-elected. And if Obama doesn't get re-elected, they can blame him for starting the war.

This is my tinfoil. Get your own.


Or... and just throwing this out there, the creator used a fake name because he knew he'd be killed otherwise, people on the street haven't seen it, they just heard someone say "Americans insulted Mohammed, let's go storm their embassy", because it's just that easy.
 
2012-09-13 06:10:12 AM

bubo_sibiricus: Insatiable Jesus: Bullshiat. Bullshiat. Bullshiat.

The producer of this film turns out to not exist. The screening that so upset the Muslim world never happened. News organizations have yet to find any Muslim on the street who has seen it, most of those interviewed hadn't even heard of it.

This stinks to high heaven.

We are being used, yet again.

A "Gulf of Tonkin" is being engineered by those who want us to get mired in yet another war over there. Anywhere. Because war means money for some people. And they're not waiting for a change of administration, especially since this administration is probably going to be re-elected. And if Obama doesn't get re-elected, they can blame him for starting the war.

This is my tinfoil. Get your own.


part of me does NOT think that you are tinfoil hat sporting... Sequestration will royally screw an awful lot of the lobbyists, since they wont have jobs, the congress critters wont have "donations" and we CANT have that!
 
2012-09-13 06:10:20 AM
Bet there is an influx of drones headed that way. How do you sign up to be a drone pilot?
 
2012-09-13 06:10:38 AM

p4p3rm4t3: wippit: Mr. Shabooboo: I'm so ticked off about the paper cut I got that I wanna storm the Canadian Embassy because the tree
they made the paper from probably came from Canada.. (That was sarcasm people, I ♥ Canada)

Oh yeah?

I saw this controversial film that two idiots in the US made about Canada. That say it was aboot free speech, but I could see the hate in their depiction of flapping heads and crappy WW2-technology in their army. I'm getting ready right now to go storm the US embassy, eh? Fookin hosers!

/fart
/AAAAAAhahahahahaha

Hey I think your on to something lets blame Canada!

Hey! Everyone! This is Canada's bad, and they apologize. Go back to work now k thx bia.


All we need is a catchy musical number!
 
2012-09-13 06:11:41 AM
F********CK IS SOMEONE SLIPPING LDS INTO THE WATER SUPPLIES!!??
 
2012-09-13 06:12:14 AM

Kittypie070: F********CK IS SOMEONE SLIPPING LDS INTO THE WATER SUPPLIES!!??


WHO LET THE MORMONS BATHE!
 
2012-09-13 06:12:25 AM
I don't even like walking past a US embassy in western countries because it feels like they are ready to take you down at a moment's notice. Attacking a US embassy in an eastern country is either done through a concerted effort and planning or done by very, very stupid people.
 
2012-09-13 06:12:37 AM

Kittypie070: F********CK IS SOMEONE SLIPPING LDS INTO THE WATER SUPPLIES!!??


If that was an intentional typo, that's some funny right there.
 
2012-09-13 06:13:23 AM

hinten: I don't even like walking past a US embassy in western countries because it feels like they are ready to take you down at a moment's notice. Attacking a US embassy in an eastern country is either done through a concerted effort and planning or done by very, very stupid people.


Or both.
 
2012-09-13 06:13:50 AM
I bet jews did this.
 
2012-09-13 06:15:00 AM
The anti-Mohammed film is, as far as I can tell, a "film" in the same way that a middle-school girl using her Cricket phone held at arms length to record a diss video about how mean that stupid Ashleigh is (and the fact that she's not nearly as pretty as she thinks she is, and also she's like totally mistaken if she thinks Brian is interested in her, because he totally isn't and stuff, so step off biatch) and then uploads it to YouTube is. The closest this movie is ever going to get to a cinema is if someone watches it, on YouTube, on their phone while they sit in the theater waiting for the real movie (say, "Hansel and Gretel: Witch Hunters") to start.
 
2012-09-13 06:15:46 AM

bubo_sibiricus: Insatiable Jesus: Bullshiat. Bullshiat. Bullshiat.

The producer of this film turns out to not exist. The screening that so upset the Muslim world never happened. News organizations have yet to find any Muslim on the street who has seen it, most of those interviewed hadn't even heard of it.

This stinks to high heaven.

We are being used, yet again.

A "Gulf of Tonkin" is being engineered by those who want us to get mired in yet another war over there. Anywhere. Because war means money for some people. And they're not waiting for a change of administration, especially since this administration is probably going to be re-elected. And if Obama doesn't get re-elected, they can blame him for starting the war.

This is my tinfoil. Get your own.


Naw, I agree. Too much similar bullshiat in too many places at once at too convenient a time. The assholes have staged the precipitating incident, anti-US bias has been confirmed and now the administration is forced to make some kind of move. Early October surprise. Happy election season, dicks.
 
2012-09-13 06:15:55 AM
As someone who has spent a considerable amount of time in the Middle East I would like to say the following: if you think to yourself that it might be a good idea to intentionally incite people to volence against Americans please at least have the balls to go over there and do it to their faces. I got shot at a lot because of people like you and I do not appreciate it. Your God should protect you because yours is right and theirs is wrong, right?
 
2012-09-13 06:15:57 AM

LadyBelgara: digistil: Mittens: 'Let us not get distracted by this nonsense. Russia The Soviet Union is our number one threat.'

FTFY.

/it IS still 1989, right?

Bit'O'Gristle: fark them, start picking them off the fence like squirrels with aimed shots and the crowd will disperse. This shiat is getting retarded, as if it wasn't retarded enough already.

Yes. Because killing already rioting civilians won't cause bigger problems. Brilliant plan. Wonder why they haven't thought of it yet?


It's a strange world isn't it and really I need to give up fark too much derp.
 
2012-09-13 06:16:40 AM
This has been a major failure of intelligence gathering at the CIA.
 
2012-09-13 06:18:04 AM
So, who did they ask when they got the response "We are doing this because of a film that nobody has actually seen."?
Do "they" have a PR spokesperson?
B.S. press coverage.
 
2012-09-13 06:18:04 AM
segullah.org
Have fun stormin' the embassy!

/hot
 
2012-09-13 06:18:21 AM

Kittypie070: F********CK IS SOMEONE SLIPPING LDS INTO THE WATER SUPPLIES!!??


They should all try lsd I here it's better.
 
2012-09-13 06:18:40 AM

Joe Six-Keg: duckfarkit: Sweet baby Jesus. The reverb from the Arab Spring. I so want Obama to handle this well; otherwise this is ammo for the rtards & a recipe for disaster

Problem is, no matter how the President handles it, it's ammo for the Tea Party/Republicans/Neocons. Pathetic that such things are politicized so freaking badly, and that there are some people who are cheering for the deaths of Americans just to make "the other side" look bad.


THIS.

In their minds anything short of carpet bombing and then stabbing the leftover corpses is a projection of weakness.
 
2012-09-13 06:19:11 AM

Kittypie070: F********CK IS SOMEONE SLIPPING LDS INTO THE WATER SUPPLIES!!??


I hope not. I certainly don't want to drink Romney and his ilk.
If LSD, no. I don't think anyone who isn't already on the verge of a schizophrenic breakdown becomes violent on LSD. Never seen a violent tripper in my life.
 
2012-09-13 06:20:12 AM

Kittypie070: F********CK IS SOMEONE SLIPPING LDS INTO THE WATER SUPPLIES!!??


i1.ytimg.com
 
2012-09-13 06:20:17 AM
The President needs to release a statement such as this,

"I'm sad to report that our embassy in Yemen has been attacked in yet another vile example of mob violence. The United States will not tolerate attacks on its Sovereign territory and injury or death upon its citizens. We have no wish for violence and only want to peacefully co-exist with every other culture that is upon this planet. We as a nation have a deep respect for ALL religions, including Islam, and expect the same level of respect and treatment from all nations. But....be warned. Our tolerance for loss of American lives only goes so far, and we WILL defend ourselves, These senseless attacks upon our citizens must cease, or the circle of violence will only escalate to a level where it would be very hard to stop it from cascading to a full military action. Please use common sense and stand down, we have no wish to hurt anyone, but we will not stand by while our people and property are destroyed. God bless you, and God bless America.
 
2012-09-13 06:20:23 AM

austin_millbarge: Joe Six-Keg: duckfarkit: Sweet baby Jesus. The reverb from the Arab Spring. I so want Obama to handle this well; otherwise this is ammo for the rtards & a recipe for disaster

Problem is, no matter how the President handles it, it's ammo for the Tea Party/Republicans/Neocons. Pathetic that such things are politicized so freaking badly, and that there are some people who are cheering for the deaths of Americans just to make "the other side" look bad.

THIS.

In their minds anything short of carpet bombing and then stabbing the leftover corpses is a projection of weakness.


Of course, that's when he's considered to be too much a warmonger, should have cared about their rights, etc etc...
 
2012-09-13 06:20:26 AM

LL316: nmemkha: While the "outrage" is most likely an excuse to vent anger at the US, they producers of the film were callously negligent. Free Speech is a right, but with every right comes a responsibility. They knew there would be violence at the release of the film and yet they released it anyway. Unfortunately, its not their loved ones who are dying, but innocent people caught up in an unnecessary firestorm.

Totally agree with this, but don't go putting the fault there. The fault lies with the animals who react this way over a movie, not the movie maker himself. It's the rapist, not the low cut dress that commits the bad act.


Yes and no.

You call them animas and then assign a moral value to their reaction. That's terrible logic. If they're animals then we ought to not poke and corner the animal for fun - especially when there are innocent people nearby.

They aren't animals. They're people. People have done this throughout history. ALL responsible parties should pay for their role.

Also, let's not pretend that free speech is absolutely free. We both know it's not. Speech has limits. You can't shout "FIRE" in a crowded theater. You can't incite violence in a way that poses a legitimate and timely threat. We also know that during times of war - our rights have been tightened (historically). Speech has very real consequences and as a result, we regulate it.
 
2012-09-13 06:21:55 AM
The problem with fundamentalist islamists are Islamic fundamentals. Organs waiting to be harvested, drug testing? You got a whole bunch of subjects.
 
2012-09-13 06:22:09 AM

nmemkha: While the "outrage" is most likely an excuse to vent anger at the US, they producers of the film were callously negligent. Free Speech is a right, but with every right comes a responsibility. They knew there would be violence at the release of the film and yet they released it anyway. Unfortunately, its not their loved ones who are dying, but innocent people caught up in an unnecessary firestorm.


You are absolutely right. Catholics, Jews and Mormons should take notice and follow the Muslim play book to reduce perceived slights to their religion. If Mormons cut off a few heads, ran around in murderous mobs and destroyed property, The Book Of Mormon might not be on Broadway.

/You can't rely on the 1st amendment to protect your speech if you are going to mock the religion of people who act violently in reaction to it
 
2012-09-13 06:22:26 AM

fusillade762: Why does the Islamic world seem to susceptible to trolling? Can we turn that to our advantage?


I've been raising the same questions in regards to teatards, Republicans, and Fox News viewers. Why don't we start manipulating their insanity to achieve goals we want.
 
2012-09-13 06:22:26 AM

Wittenberg Dropout: I bet jews did this.


Latest news indicate that it is an Egyptian Copt christian from California. Makes sense because the "film" depicts muslim violence specifically on Christians, at least the scenes I've seen.

As if muslims needed an excuse to murder and burn stuff on 9/11 anniversary. There are indications that the attack on the Benghazi consulate was pre-planned, the movie was a lame excuse.
 
2012-09-13 06:23:22 AM

Oysterman: They hate the way they're portrayed in media, only to portray themselves poorly on the world stage.


The problem with statements like these is, the use of the word "they". Who are "they"?
 
2012-09-13 06:23:57 AM

austin_millbarge: Joe Six-Keg: duckfarkit: Sweet baby Jesus. The reverb from the Arab Spring. I so want Obama to handle this well; otherwise this is ammo for the rtards & a recipe for disaster

Problem is, no matter how the President handles it, it's ammo for the Tea Party/Republicans/Neocons. Pathetic that such things are politicized so freaking badly, and that there are some people who are cheering for the deaths of Americans just to make "the other side" look bad.

THIS.

In their minds anything short of carpet bombing and then stabbing the leftover corpses is a projection of weakness.


Actually I think they would prefer Reagan's approach to attacks on US Marines, embassies, and consulates............. Nothing at all or maybe sell them arms while talking tough.
 
2012-09-13 06:24:35 AM
To compare religion and culture (in the twentieth century), this is what it looks like when a western religion protests a film they disagree with:

Link
 
2012-09-13 06:24:43 AM

Bit'O'Gristle: The President needs to release a statement such as this,

"I'm sad to report that our embassy in Yemen has been attacked in yet another vile example of mob violence. The United States will not tolerate attacks on its Sovereign territory and injury or death upon its citizens. We have no wish for violence and only want to peacefully co-exist with every other culture that is upon this planet. We as a nation have a deep respect for ALL religions, including Islam, and expect the same level of respect and treatment from all nations. But....be warned. Our tolerance for loss of American lives only goes so far, and we WILL defend ourselves, These senseless attacks upon our citizens must cease, or the circle of violence will only escalate to a level where it would be very hard to stop it from cascading to a full military action. Please use common sense and stand down, we have no wish to hurt anyone, but we will not stand by while our people and property are destroyed. God bless you, and God bless America.


You know, I almost could hear his voice saying that, and I'd accept that statement from him. Would be even better if Morgan Freeman said it.

/titty sprinkles
 
2012-09-13 06:24:45 AM
Everyone knows, before all this started, we were basically already at war in Yemen, right?

http://www.wired.com/dangerroom/2012/09/yemen-drone-war/

I also don't buy this conspiracy about concerted attacks until someone official without an agenda tells me so or there is evidence actually presented to the public. Yesterday it was all unnamed sources, a thinktank in London and Rep. Mike Rogers who earlier this week leaked a story about Netanyahu yelling at the U.S. State Department. That I saw anyway.

The Arab Spring spread from country to country and no one said that that was premeditated or coordinated. Until I hear otherwise, I'm going to assume this is similar.
 
2012-09-13 06:24:54 AM

Bit'O'Gristle: The President needs to release a statement such as this,

"I'm sad to report that our embassy in Yemen has been attacked in yet another vile example of mob violence. The United States will not tolerate attacks on its Sovereign territory and injury or death upon its citizens. We have no wish for violence and only want to peacefully co-exist with every other culture that is upon this planet. We as a nation have a deep respect for ALL religions, including Islam, and expect the same level of respect and treatment from all nations. But....be warned. Our tolerance for loss of American lives only goes so far, and we WILL defend ourselves, These senseless attacks upon our citizens must cease, or the circle of violence will only escalate to a level where it would be very hard to stop it from cascading to a full military action. Please use common sense and stand down, we have no wish to hurt anyone, but we will not stand by while our people and property are destroyed. God bless you, and God bless America.


You know what, I think he's got this under control and further more, is smarter than you and has better people advising him than you do, so how about sit down and STFU, you lazy trolling bastard.
 
2012-09-13 06:25:13 AM

tinfoil-hat maggie: LadyBelgara: digistil: Mittens: 'Let us not get distracted by this nonsense. Russia The Soviet Union is our number one threat.'

FTFY.

/it IS still 1989, right?

Bit'O'Gristle: fark them, start picking them off the fence like squirrels with aimed shots and the crowd will disperse. This shiat is getting retarded, as if it wasn't retarded enough already.

Yes. Because killing already rioting civilians won't cause bigger problems. Brilliant plan. Wonder why they haven't thought of it yet?

It's a strange world isn't it and really I need to give up fark too much derp.


/This....we should really just open the gates..tell the people inside to pull their pants down and stick their asses in the air and prepare to get raped. Because defending yourself from attack is so middle ages. (rolls eyes)
 
2012-09-13 06:27:00 AM

tinfoil-hat maggie: Kittypie070: F********CK IS SOMEONE SLIPPING LDS INTO THE WATER SUPPLIES!!??

They should all try lsd I here it's better.


Just watch out for that brown shiat. (It's not poison, it's just bad acid.)
 
2012-09-13 06:27:59 AM

TappingTheVein: Wittenberg Dropout: I bet jews did this.

Latest news indicate that it is an Egyptian Copt christian from California. Makes sense because the "film" depicts muslim violence specifically on Christians, at least the scenes I've seen.

As if muslims needed an excuse to murder and burn stuff on 9/11 anniversary. There are indications that the attack on the Benghazi consulate was pre-planned, the movie was a lame excuse.


Not the j00s? Oh well, it's a fair Coptic.
 
2012-09-13 06:28:09 AM

Beauf: I got shot at a lot because of people like you and I do not appreciate it.


Exactly. That's why I just wrote my Congressman to protest the draft.
 
2012-09-13 06:28:15 AM

BullBearMS: Hmmm... There was an interesting theory being discussed on Slashdot the other day.

whenever the UN's food price index, which measures the monthly change in the price of a basket of food commodities, climbs above 210, the conditions ripen for social unrest around the world.

(Said the researchers behind the study) "on December 13, 2010, we submitted a government report analyzing the repercussions of the global financial crises, and directly identifying the risk of social unrest and political instability due to food prices." Four days later, Mohamed Bouazizi set himself on fire as an act of protest in Tunisia.

Today, the food price index is hovering around 213, where it has stayed for months-just beyond the tip of the identified threshold.


We absolutely know there's a direct link between access to things necessary to sustain life and societal peace. This relationship is at the heart of most revolutions.

It's terrifying to think this future - one of increasingly limited access to clean drinking water and food - is one in which the US is likely to face if climate scientists are right.
 
2012-09-13 06:29:02 AM
phlatulence 2012-09-13 06:21:55 AM

Organs waiting to be harvested, drug testing? You got a whole bunch of subjects.

**SLAP**

They are fellow human beings, not commodities, you #$@&!
WHY THE HELL CAN'T YOU READ THE REST OF THE THREAD!?
 
2012-09-13 06:29:38 AM
"Observe, Kang! The humans are fighting each other again."

"Their downfall is imminent, and soon they will be ripe for conquering!"

upload.wikimedia.org
 
2012-09-13 06:30:32 AM

tinfoil-hat maggie: Bit'O'Gristle: The President needs to release a statement such as this,

"I'm sad to report that our embassy in Yemen has been attacked in yet another vile example of mob violence. The United States will not tolerate attacks on its Sovereign territory and injury or death upon its citizens. We have no wish for violence and only want to peacefully co-exist with every other culture that is upon this planet. We as a nation have a deep respect for ALL religions, including Islam, and expect the same level of respect and treatment from all nations. But....be warned. Our tolerance for loss of American lives only goes so far, and we WILL defend ourselves, These senseless attacks upon our citizens must cease, or the circle of violence will only escalate to a level where it would be very hard to stop it from cascading to a full military action. Please use common sense and stand down, we have no wish to hurt anyone, but we will not stand by while our people and property are destroyed. God bless you, and God bless America.

You know what, I think he's got this under control and further more, is smarter than you and has better people advising him than you do, so how about sit down and STFU, you lazy trolling bastard.


1/10 You'll have to try harder than that, that wasn't even a full swing.
 
2012-09-13 06:30:33 AM

Beauf: Actually I think they would prefer Reagan's approach to attacks on US Marines, embassies, and consulates............. Nothing at all or maybe sell them arms while talking tough.


Ah, nothing like "cut and run" appeaser Reagan who let the terrorists win in Lebanon.
 
2012-09-13 06:30:35 AM

Kittypie070: phlatulence 2012-09-13 06:21:55 AM

Organs waiting to be harvested, drug testing? You got a whole bunch of subjects.

**SLAP**

They are fellow human beings, not commodities, you #$@&!
WHY THE HELL CAN'T YOU READ THE REST OF THE THREAD!?


Soylent Green is people?
 
2012-09-13 06:30:44 AM

Bit'O'Gristle: The President needs to release a statement such as this,

"I'm sad to report that our embassy in Yemen has been attacked in yet another vile example of mob violence. The United States will not tolerate attacks on its Sovereign territory and injury or death upon its citizens. We have no wish for violence and only want to peacefully co-exist with every other culture that is upon this planet. We as a nation have a deep respect for ALL religions, including Islam, and expect the same level of respect and treatment from all nations. But....be warned. Our tolerance for loss of American lives only goes so far, and we WILL defend ourselves, These senseless attacks upon our citizens must cease, or the circle of violence will only escalate to a level where it would be very hard to stop it from cascading to a full military action. Please use common sense and stand down, we have no wish to hurt anyone, but we will not stand by while our people and property are destroyed. God bless you, and God bless America.


.
.
What a shame that he apologized instead. WTF!
 
2012-09-13 06:32:36 AM

Bontesla: You can't incite violence in a way that poses a legitimate and timely threat


You have failed to demonstrate how insulting someone's deity poses a "threat," much less a "legitimate and timely" one.
 
2012-09-13 06:32:42 AM
Why don't we shoot people who invade our embassies?
It is like someone invading your home, you should be able to shoot them before they hurt someone.
 
2012-09-13 06:33:50 AM
Here's the quintessential irony of events like this for me.

Someone makes a film about how Islam has a historical problem with violence.

Religious fundamentalists become incensed at being so disparaged that they haul off and act like violent lunatics.

Funny stuff.

/Not the good kind of funny, no.
 
2012-09-13 06:34:15 AM

Cpl.D: I thought they equipped all US embassies with that active denial system. It really would've been helpful, here.


One of my RSOs was wishing for one a few months ago. He said he wanted to try the "brown note" on some of these people.
 
2012-09-13 06:35:01 AM

Bit'O'Gristle: tinfoil-hat maggie: LadyBelgara: digistil: Mittens: 'Let us not get distracted by this nonsense. Russia The Soviet Union is our number one threat.'

FTFY.

/it IS still 1989, right?

Bit'O'Gristle: fark them, start picking them off the fence like squirrels with aimed shots and the crowd will disperse. This shiat is getting retarded, as if it wasn't retarded enough already.

Yes. Because killing already rioting civilians won't cause bigger problems. Brilliant plan. Wonder why they haven't thought of it yet?

It's a strange world isn't it and really I need to give up fark too much derp.

/This....we should really just open the gates..tell the people inside to pull their pants down and stick their asses in the air and prepare to get raped. Because defending yourself from attack is so middle ages. (rolls eyes)


What is it with the rape fantasies here lately?Are you trying to tell us something?
 
2012-09-13 06:35:02 AM

Kittypie070: They are fellow human beings, not commodities,


If animals can be commodities, so can humans. In fact, it's better if it's humans (except for food because prions) as you can explain things to humans in a way that they can make the educated choice to undergo whatever it is we need them for.

You can probably dig up some crazy people to take experimental drugs at high doses to asses safety. I don't think you can find mice who can consent to that.

That doesn't mean the person you were replying to wasn't being a full on idiot, but humans are the only animal capable of being a commodity ethically. All the others must be assumed to be doing so against their will.
 
2012-09-13 06:35:34 AM

austin_millbarge: Oysterman: They hate the way they're portrayed in media, only to portray themselves poorly on the world stage.

The problem with statements like these is, the use of the word "they". Who are "they"?


FTA: "The protesters' anger was triggered by the amateurish anti-Islam film, a trailer for which appeared on YouTube"

Who do you think?

//And, not to get caught with another vague pronoun, "you" would refer to "English-or-journalism professor / grammar nazi / etc."
 
2012-09-13 06:37:24 AM

rev. dave: Why don't we shoot people who invade our embassies?
It is like someone invading your home, you should be able to shoot them before they hurt someone.


Because it makes some FARKers cry and write the word *SLAP* in big letters.

/and that's worse than being beaten to death by Libyans who are "carrying you to the hospital"
//oh wait, no it isn't... except in the magical world of FARK liberals
 
Esn
2012-09-13 06:37:35 AM
Here's a modest proposal:

This whole thing comes about because many Muslims don't understand the concept of freedom of speech, and of how little attention most Westerners pay to that speech.

Because so few things are said at all in the Muslim world, anything that's said is considered very significant. In the West, it's completely the opposite: many things are said every day, and nobody pays any attention to them. Who had even heard of this obscure film in the West before the attacks?

Obviously Islam is a special case, so what I propose is that the US government should make a deal with Muslims (maybe organize some referendums in different countries) - and the choice is that either everything is kept as it is, or the US amends the constitution to forbid any criticism of Islam AND ALSO to forbid any positive or neutral mention of Islam in public places. That would be fair.

Or perhaps just block all American internet traffic (such as Youtube) from reaching any Islamic countries, that would also get the job done. If they don't want Western communication (and the values that go with it), they can live without.
 
2012-09-13 06:37:56 AM
I will not dignify that crap with any more response than this.
 
2012-09-13 06:38:26 AM

common sense is an oxymoron: tinfoil-hat maggie: Kittypie070: F********CK IS SOMEONE SLIPPING LDS INTO THE WATER SUPPLIES!!??

They should all try lsd I here it's better.

Just watch out for that brown shiat. (It's not poison, it's just bad acid.)


Very true :)
 
2012-09-13 06:38:32 AM
Once is happenstance. Twice is coincidence. Three times, there's a country involved.

My guess is it's one that starts with an "Al" and ends with a "Qaeda". :-(
 
2012-09-13 06:40:42 AM
The Tatter'd Bunghole of the Confederacy inflicts autism on its children.
 
2012-09-13 06:41:21 AM
Who funded this film?

Who benefits?

Benjamin Netanyahu and Sheldon Adelson sent Obama's October surprise a little early.
 
2012-09-13 06:41:48 AM
Where's Lara Logan in all this?

/her video totally isn't available if you know where to look.
 
2012-09-13 06:42:00 AM

rev. dave: It is like someone invading your home, you should be able to shoot them before they hurt someone.


Somewhat this.
It's why I can't take people who decry the black bloc tactic in protest movements/Occupy seriously. "You're excusing a crackdown by the cops", "you're endangering peaceful protesters". 1) No, the cops were gonna crack down to begin with, you don't wait until they start shooting to take action. It's like the idiots who cried about "premature antifacism" at the people beating fascist ass in the streets in the early/mid 30s. 2) The black bloc usually functions as the buffer between peaceful protesters and police beatings.
Not to mention it's somehow okay to label defensive action violent. "Oh man they're throwing tear gas canisters that the police shot back at them so protesters can breathe and aren't hospitalized by chemical weapons and the Oakland PD gets a taste of their own terrorism, what domestic terrorists!."
Granted, shooting into the rioting crowd probably won't tactically end well (just like the BB isn't always a great tactic for the situation) but I agree with you in principle.
/Minor unrelated rant over
 
2012-09-13 06:42:46 AM

TappingTheVein: Wittenberg Dropout: I bet jews did this.

Latest news indicate that it is an Egyptian Copt christian from California. Makes sense because the "film" depicts muslim violence specifically on Christians, at least the scenes I've seen.

As if muslims needed an excuse to murder and burn stuff on 9/11 anniversary. There are indications that the attack on the Benghazi consulate was pre-planned, the movie was a lame excuse.


There are indications? There are also indications that the sun revolves around the earth, but sources say that's not true. It could be true - or not - that there are a series of planned attacks going on, but someone from the U.S. government needs to go on the record, and with a good argument, and end this whisper campaign. The 9-11 timing is the only thing that smells a lot like preplanning.
 
2012-09-13 06:43:02 AM

Captain Steroid: Once is happenstance. Twice is coincidence. Three times, there's a country involved.

My guess is it's one that starts with an "Al" and ends with a "Qaeda". :-(


Can you point that one out to me on a map?
 
2012-09-13 06:43:31 AM
Religion of Peace©?
 
2012-09-13 06:43:48 AM

doglover: If animals can be commodities, so can humans. In fact, it's better if it's humans (except for food because prions) as you can explain things to humans in a way that they can make the educated choice to undergo whatever it is we need them for.

You can probably dig up some crazy people to take experimental drugs at high doses to asses safety. I don't think you can find mice who can consent to that.

That doesn't mean the person you were replying to wasn't being a full on idiot, but humans are the only animal capable of being a commodity ethically. All the others must be assumed to be doing so against their will.


We live in an entire economic system built on the principle of wage and commodifying humans anyway. Sure, we don't have the fancy auctions and obvious chains but we still have the "labor market".
 
2012-09-13 06:44:21 AM

Atomic Spunk: The world is going crazy. Buy gold.


Nothing makes sense anymore Buy gold.
 
2012-09-13 06:45:15 AM
i wonder what vet drug it was.....
 
2012-09-13 06:45:21 AM
Rmoney wants a repeat of the Iran hostage cricis because he thinks it will make Obama look "just like Carter". However, Romney doesn't have the CIA to back him like Reagan did by having Bush on the ticket.
 
2012-09-13 06:46:59 AM

Bit'O'Gristle: tinfoil-hat maggie: Bit'O'Gristle: The President needs to release a statement such as this,

"I'm sad to report that our embassy in Yemen has been attacked in yet another vile example of mob violence. The United States will not tolerate attacks on its Sovereign territory and injury or death upon its citizens. We have no wish for violence and only want to peacefully co-exist with every other culture that is upon this planet. We as a nation have a deep respect for ALL religions, including Islam, and expect the same level of respect and treatment from all nations. But....be warned. Our tolerance for loss of American lives only goes so far, and we WILL defend ourselves, These senseless attacks upon our citizens must cease, or the circle of violence will only escalate to a level where it would be very hard to stop it from cascading to a full military action. Please use common sense and stand down, we have no wish to hurt anyone, but we will not stand by while our people and property are destroyed. God bless you, and God bless America.

You know what, I think he's got this under control and further more, is smarter than you and has better people advising him than you do, so how about sit down and STFU, you lazy trolling bastard.

1/10 You'll have to try harder than that, that wasn't even a full swing.


Oh, very true, in fact I'd give myself a 0/10, well I was responding to a troll sooooo :) Well just have fun with that. You won I admitted it, aren't you happy, don't you feel better , like about yourself all those little problems you've been facing and here, now you've won, wow If only I could know that joy, but alas it alludes me :(
 
2012-09-13 06:47:20 AM

Captain Steroid: Once is happenstance. Twice is coincidence. Three times, there's a country involved.

My guess is it's one that starts with an "Al" and ends with a "Qaeda". :-(


Do you want to know how I know you failed geography?
 
2012-09-13 06:47:46 AM

tinfoil-hat maggie: Bit'O'Gristle: tinfoil-hat maggie: LadyBelgara: digistil: Mittens: 'Let us not get distracted by this nonsense. Russia The Soviet Union is our number one threat.'

FTFY.

/it IS still 1989, right?

Bit'O'Gristle: fark them, start picking them off the fence like squirrels with aimed shots and the crowd will disperse. This shiat is getting retarded, as if it wasn't retarded enough already.

Yes. Because killing already rioting civilians won't cause bigger problems. Brilliant plan. Wonder why they haven't thought of it yet?

It's a strange world isn't it and really I need to give up fark too much derp.

/This....we should really just open the gates..tell the people inside to pull their pants down and stick their asses in the air and prepare to get raped. Because defending yourself from attack is so middle ages. (rolls eyes)

What is it with the rape fantasies here lately?Are you trying to tell us something?


/Hah...:P not really, Just using it as a description of how some here want us to just lay down and take it like a biatch instead of exercising some good old fashioned self defense. Nothing wrong with defending yourself, but some think it's better to just let shiat happen to you, because "violence" is wrong. And bad..and wrong too.
 
2012-09-13 06:48:29 AM
It looks like Obama is going to have to issue another apology.
 
2012-09-13 06:49:02 AM

Bigdogdaddy: Rmoney wants a repeat of the Iran hostage cricis because he thinks it will make Obama look "just like Carter". However, Romney doesn't have the CIA to back him like Reagan did by having Bush on the ticket.


You say that now but if Romney is elected I bet he can sell weapons to Libya, Egypt, and Yemen yet while aiding drug smuggling in South America/our country and funding South American death squads. Maybe that's his policy and why he refuses to talk about it.
 
2012-09-13 06:49:17 AM

Bit'O'Gristle: steerforth: Hi America, from a foreigner

Please secure your people in all embassies, consulates and missions around the world. There is obviously a concerted effort to attack you at the moment.

Please rest assured that, as long as your reaction to these events is rational, the rest of the world is with you.

Please don't invade anyone.

Thx, ROW.

/Ya, kinda hard to get in the mood for a multi cultural campfire and sing along when they are firing rpg's and Ak's at our people, and burning down our houses. But i hear ya.


ROW thankful that you are not in charge.
 
2012-09-13 06:49:23 AM

Bigdogdaddy: Rmoney wants a repeat of the Iran hostage cricis because he thinks it will make Obama look "just like Carter". However, Romney doesn't have the CIA to back him like Reagan did by having Bush on the ticket.


If you haven't you should read the book "See no Evil" by Robert Baer, who was a CIA agent in that region at that time. It provides some interesting insight into what was going on and what we did or didn't do about it. It should be required reading for anyone with a hand in planning our response.
 
2012-09-13 06:49:49 AM

Deacon Blue: quantum_jellyroll: Maybe it's time for a round of "Cowboys & Muslims".

Or maybe, "Regan and Russians". Just substitute 'Muslims' for 'Russians'. I really, really hope Obama steps up and kicks some ass.


Obama only talks a strong game when it's about kicking the butts of oil executives.

However, that doesn't mean he won't act.
 
2012-09-13 06:49:52 AM

tinfoil-hat maggie: Bit'O'Gristle: tinfoil-hat maggie: Bit'O'Gristle: The President needs to release a statement such as this,

"I'm sad to report that our embassy in Yemen has been attacked in yet another vile example of mob violence. The United States will not tolerate attacks on its Sovereign territory and injury or death upon its citizens. We have no wish for violence and only want to peacefully co-exist with every other culture that is upon this planet. We as a nation have a deep respect for ALL religions, including Islam, and expect the same level of respect and treatment from all nations. But....be warned. Our tolerance for loss of American lives only goes so far, and we WILL defend ourselves, These senseless attacks upon our citizens must cease, or the circle of violence will only escalate to a level where it would be very hard to stop it from cascading to a full military action. Please use common sense and stand down, we have no wish to hurt anyone, but we will not stand by while our people and property are destroyed. God bless you, and God bless America.

You know what, I think he's got this under control and further more, is smarter than you and has better people advising him than you do, so how about sit down and STFU, you lazy trolling bastard.

1/10 You'll have to try harder than that, that wasn't even a full swing.

Oh, very true, in fact I'd give myself a 0/10, well I was responding to a troll sooooo :) Well just have fun with that. You won I admitted it, aren't you happy, don't you feel better , like about yourself all those little problems you've been facing and here, now you've won, wow If only I could know that joy, but alas it alludes me :(


Hey, i was trying to be nice...at least i gave you a 1...jeez..you try to give some credit and you STILL get the boot...sighs.
 
2012-09-13 06:49:54 AM
It's election season, and it looks like Al Qaeda is trying to get rid of the worst enemy it's had in the White House to date. And the useful idiots of the American Right are all too happy to try and oblige them.
 
2012-09-13 06:50:50 AM

The Stealth Hippopotamus: Why the hell you accept a diplomatic posting in Yemen?!

Good luck guys.


A friend told me once that Yemen was his favorite posting. Another one's teen daughter reminisces fondly over Eritrea. Every year it's a fight to see who gets to go to Baghdad. Why? Danger, excitement, a sense of purpose ("we're the good guys!") and danger pay (though taxes eat most of that).
My old boss is talking about leaving Bangkok for one more tour in Iraq. Why? He loves being able to get stuff done, and places like that give him a license to do that.
 
2012-09-13 06:53:01 AM
I'm sorry but when you play with fire, you get burned, Mr. President.
 
2012-09-13 06:53:16 AM

The Stealth Hippopotamus: Why the hell you accept a diplomatic posting in Yemen?!


A colleague of mine spent some time there a few years ago. He said it's actually a beautiful country with some fantastic scenery that could do great tourism if it wanted to. The only problem with Yemen, he said, is that it's filled with Yemenis.
 
2012-09-13 06:53:31 AM
Remember when that lawyer apologized to Cheney for Cheney shooting him in the face.........Well the US is now that lawyer.
 
2012-09-13 06:54:11 AM

Prank Call of Cthulhu: A colleague of mine spent some time there a few years ago. He said it's actually a beautiful country with some fantastic scenery that could do great tourism if it wanted to. The only problem with Yemen, he said, is that it's filled with Yemenis.


Sounds like the South.
 
2012-09-13 06:55:10 AM
So instead of blaming it on bad foreign policy or intolerant people who think storming embassies is a good idea, so far Fark has blamed it on:

1. The Jews.
2. Freedom of speech in the US.
3. An amateur film maker.
4. Israel (The Jews).
5. The CIA.
6. Drugs.
7. The Arab Spring.
8. Mitt Romney.


...I can see there won't be much progress in this thread.
 
2012-09-13 06:55:30 AM

Bit'O'Gristle: tinfoil-hat maggie: Bit'O'Gristle: tinfoil-hat maggie: LadyBelgara: digistil: Mittens: 'Let us not get distracted by this nonsense. Russia The Soviet Union is our number one threat.'

FTFY.

/it IS still 1989, right?

Bit'O'Gristle: fark them, start picking them off the fence like squirrels with aimed shots and the crowd will disperse. This shiat is getting retarded, as if it wasn't retarded enough already.

Yes. Because killing already rioting civilians won't cause bigger problems. Brilliant plan. Wonder why they haven't thought of it yet?

It's a strange world isn't it and really I need to give up fark too much derp.

/This....we should really just open the gates..tell the people inside to pull their pants down and stick their asses in the air and prepare to get raped. Because defending yourself from attack is so middle ages. (rolls eyes)

What is it with the rape fantasies here lately?Are you trying to tell us something?

/Hah...:P not really, Just using it as a description of how some here want us to just lay down and take it like a biatch instead of exercising some good old fashioned self defense. Nothing wrong with defending yourself, but some think it's better to just let shiat happen to you, because "violence" is wrong. And bad..and wrong too.


So not really is the best I get and yet you gave me a 1/10 sorry baby doll but I ain't trolling but I know who is and well I'm bored with you so begone, I have no further interest in you, I'll bet you hear that a lot don't you :)
 
2012-09-13 06:55:37 AM

BullBearMS: Hmmm... There was an interesting theory being discussed on Slashdot the other day.

whenever the UN's food price index, which measures the monthly change in the price of a basket of food commodities, climbs above 210, the conditions ripen for social unrest around the world.

(Said the researchers behind the study) "on December 13, 2010, we submitted a government report analyzing the repercussions of the global financial crises, and directly identifying the risk of social unrest and political instability due to food prices." Four days later, Mohamed Bouazizi set himself on fire as an act of protest in Tunisia.

Today, the food price index is hovering around 213, where it has stayed for months-just beyond the tip of the identified threshold.


Wow! I never thought about that, but it makes a LOT of sense. Thanks for that link.
 
2012-09-13 06:55:57 AM
Dumbass! Around here it's "Jesus" that's being called god, yet we see Jesus being played around with in the media as gay, sometimes a vampire/zombie slayer, or even a gardener. You never see us rampaging through embassies.
 
2012-09-13 06:55:58 AM

robohobo: Coming on a Bicycle:

Yeah and skimpy dresses are purposely worn to arouse.

Aren't they?


Yes, and we only blame the rapist. Like we should. No point treating the populace like irresponsible children. They'll only start behaving like irresponsible children.
 
2012-09-13 06:56:00 AM
waznmentobe.com
 
2012-09-13 06:56:09 AM

way south: So instead of blaming it on bad foreign policy or intolerant people who think storming embassies is a good idea, so far Fark has blamed it on:

1. The Jews.
2. Freedom of speech in the US.
3. An amateur film maker.
4. Israel (The Jews).
5. The CIA.
6. Drugs.
7. The Arab Spring.
8. Mitt Romney.


...I can see there won't be much progress in this thread.


Don't forget money.
 
2012-09-13 06:56:20 AM

jso2897: It's election season, and it looks like Al Qaeda is trying to get rid of the worst enemy it's had in the White House to date. And the useful idiots of the American Right are all too happy to try and oblige them.


YES! It seems that the entire world has become a very dangerous place for people who attack us no matter where they go. Terrorist organizers, recruiters, and financers seem to have had a slight problem with spontainously exploding over the last few years (and not as suicide bombers).
 
2012-09-13 06:57:50 AM
Some retards make an awful video and post it on YouTube. Some other retards react badly to it. It's a circle of stupid. But for anyone convincing themselves that this is all planned by a sinister cabal of bearded men somewhere, get a grip. Time and again we've seen fundamentalist Muslims riot over what some yokel has done. The Muhammad cartoons, the Koran burnings, and now this. You've got a lot of angry, listless young men whose religion and culture forbids any sort of normal stress relief like booze or women. So when someone tells them to be outraged, they're all for it.
 
2012-09-13 06:58:06 AM

RU4C: RU4C: Subby here. I thought about including a joke, but knowing the Embassy staff over there is fighting for their lives, just didn't think it was appropriate.

Well said. Class on Fark is hard to find.

Thank you for those kind words on an internet message board. I guess I was just the kid who could never rob the hooker in GTA. She did her job and deserves that money.


I have to admit... I enjoyed shooting her in the face with the bazooka.

I'm such a piece of shiat, aren't I?
 
2012-09-13 06:58:25 AM

way south: So instead of blaming it on bad foreign policy or intolerant people who think storming embassies is a good idea, so far Fark has blamed it on:

1. The Jews.
2. Freedom of speech in the US.
3. An amateur film maker.
4. Israel (The Jews).
5. The CIA.
6. Drugs.
7. The Arab Spring.
8. Mitt Romney.


...I can see there won't be much progress in this thread.


This guy blames society:

i2.ytimg.com
 
2012-09-13 06:59:01 AM

way south: ...I can see there won't be much progress in this thread.


There never is, when "progressives" are involved.
 
2012-09-13 06:59:10 AM

Beauf: jso2897: It's election season, and it looks like Al Qaeda is trying to get rid of the worst enemy it's had in the White House to date. And the useful idiots of the American Right are all too happy to try and oblige them.

YES! It seems that the entire world has become a very dangerous place for people who attack us no matter where they go. Terrorist organizers, recruiters, and financers seem to have had a slight problem with spontainously exploding over the last few years (and not as suicide bombers).


Well, I'm sure the bad guys timed this the way they did because they want to help Obama get elected, on account of he's so "soft" on terrorism. They are terrified that a courageous genius like Mitt Romney might get elected, so they timed this to help Obama.
That's the ticket.
 
2012-09-13 06:59:31 AM

p4p3rm4t3: way south: So instead of blaming it on bad foreign policy or intolerant people who think storming embassies is a good idea, so far Fark has blamed it on:

1. The Jews.
2. Freedom of speech in the US.
3. An amateur film maker.
4. Israel (The Jews).
5. The CIA.
6. Drugs.
7. The Arab Spring.
8. Mitt Romney.


...I can see there won't be much progress in this thread.

Don't forget money.


You are absolutely right.
...and since we all know who controls the banks:

9. Money (The Jews)
 
2012-09-13 06:59:51 AM

somedude210: poe_zlaw: I wonder how many low-budget lame ass movies of been made about America and Christianity in the middle east How many embassies got stormed by peaceloving Americans in the United States?

I'm gonna assume none, since, you know, there's no proof that they exist.

This, however, was a deliberate attempt to show it to the Muslim world in order to piss them right the fark off.

/wouldn't at all be surprised if this traced back to Team Romney


Democrat truthers, how unoriginal.

So releasing something on YouTube is a deliberate attempt to push something on the arabs? If so, they are likely attacking to get dumb shiat Americans to knock it off with the Gotye copycat videos.
 
2012-09-13 07:00:16 AM

thamike: ShannonKW:

Hey, where in Saudi are you?


Upcountry with the hicks, just south of the Nafud.
 
2012-09-13 07:01:00 AM
Some little brown people (lbp) are gettin' uppity......time for Ameristoopid to start more wars......
 
2012-09-13 07:01:00 AM

Bit'O'Gristle: tinfoil-hat maggie: Bit'O'Gristle: tinfoil-hat maggie: LadyBelgara: digistil: Mittens: 'Let us not get distracted by this nonsense. Russia The Soviet Union is our number one threat.'

FTFY.

/it IS still 1989, right?

Bit'O'Gristle: fark them, start picking them off the fence like squirrels with aimed shots and the crowd will disperse. This shiat is getting retarded, as if it wasn't retarded enough already.

Yes. Because killing already rioting civilians won't cause bigger problems. Brilliant plan. Wonder why they haven't thought of it yet?

It's a strange world isn't it and really I need to give up fark too much derp.

/This....we should really just open the gates..tell the people inside to pull their pants down and stick their asses in the air and prepare to get raped. Because defending yourself from attack is so middle ages. (rolls eyes)

What is it with the rape fantasies here lately?Are you trying to tell us something?

/Hah...:P not really, Just using it as a description of how some here want us to just lay down and take it like a biatch instead of exercising some good old fashioned self defense. Nothing wrong with defending yourself, but some think it's better to just let shiat happen to you, because "violence" is wrong. And bad..and wrong too.


You are a biatch though. A scared one at that. Whimpering at the scary people thousands of miles away.
 
2012-09-13 07:01:32 AM

doglover: Cpl.D: I thought they equipped all US embassies with that active denial system



You know what looks worse in the media than your embassy gettin' a little B&E? Unleashing automatic weapons on unarmed civilians. Hell, we're still learning about a handful of musket balls launched more than 200 years ago at a couple early Bostonians who you probably would have shot too.

As bad as riots get, active denial systems aren't for mere flag burning and trespass. That's why they keep the weapons in the secure areas, which weren't raided.


So we should allow violent protesters with RPGs and small arms just right on in, so we can lose more US persons, who were simply there trying to make a difference? When do you begin to use the active denial system? Never? Is it simply there as a show of force? I don't think so. If you are part of an angry mob and start to storm an embassy, and you see that the guy next to you has an RPG/AK-47/hand grenade/whatever, you should probably run the other way, because in any logical situation, he's going to escalate things beyond a point where you wish to be a participant. If, on the other hand, you see this, and decide to continue your "protest" you are, and will be (and SHOULD be) treated as a target and a threat.

/I work for the State Dept and am currently at a US embassy abroad after serving a year in Baghdad, Iraq
//So I'm getting a kick out of these, etc etc...
 
2012-09-13 07:02:02 AM
So, an Arabic-speaking Christian who ran away to the US made a troll-tastic film which nobody cared about.
SO, he had it dubbed into Arabic, and uploaded it where it would get lots of bites.

I think the dubbing and promotion of the film are pretty much in line with a premeditated "fire" in a crowded cinema.
 
2012-09-13 07:03:01 AM

Bit'O'Gristle: The President needs to release a statement such as this,

"I'm sad to report that our embassy in Yemen has been attacked in yet another vile example of mob violence. The United States will not tolerate attacks on its Sovereign territory and injury or death upon its citizens. We have no wish for violence and only want to peacefully co-exist with every other culture that is upon this planet. We as a nation have a deep respect for ALL religions, including Islam, and expect the same level of respect and treatment from all nations. But....be warned. Our tolerance for loss of American lives only goes so far, and we WILL defend ourselves, These senseless attacks upon our citizens must cease, or the circle of violence will only escalate to a level where it would be very hard to stop it from cascading to a full military action. Please use common sense and stand down, we have no wish to hurt anyone, but we will not stand by while our people and property are destroyed. God bless you, and God bless America.


Instead, it will be more like this:

"My fellow americans and citizens of the world. Today, I'd like to apologize for the following things: White privilege, Christianity, American exceptionalism, Pork, McDonalds, George W. Bush, Ronald Reagan and General Pershing, Facebook, Skirts, birth control, shopping, dancing, bicycles, music, Jews, Justin Bieber, Katy Perry, Ke$ha, QVC, The Philadelphia Eagles, Rosie O'Donnell, republicans and Glenn Beck. Please stop raiding our embassies. Thanks"
 
2012-09-13 07:03:05 AM

jso2897: Beauf: jso2897: It's election season, and it looks like Al Qaeda is trying to get rid of the worst enemy it's had in the White House to date. And the useful idiots of the American Right are all too happy to try and oblige them.

YES! It seems that the entire world has become a very dangerous place for people who attack us no matter where they go. Terrorist organizers, recruiters, and financers seem to have had a slight problem with spontainously exploding over the last few years (and not as suicide bombers).

Well, I'm sure the bad guys timed this the way they did because they want to help Obama get elected, on account of he's so "soft" on terrorism. They are terrified that a courageous genius like Mitt Romney might get elected, so they timed this to help Obama.
That's the ticket.


No, I am pretty sure they don't want Obama to be elected
 
2012-09-13 07:03:13 AM
I like your Muhammad.
I do not like your Muslims
Your Muslims are so unlike your Muhammad.
 
2012-09-13 07:03:40 AM
How many drone strikes have we had in our little undeclared war there again? That place has been a powder keg waiting for the spark needed to go off for a long, long time. I hope they're beefing up security in similar countries.
 
2012-09-13 07:03:47 AM
Blowback, how werk it.
Derpity.
 
2012-09-13 07:04:34 AM
Heading to Dubai for a week, curious to find out if Fark is banned there.
 
2012-09-13 07:05:02 AM

lucksi: So, how about arresting the one who made the film and charge him with murder and inflicting riots?

If you can charge a fleeing criminal with murder when police shoot some bystanders, you can charge the religious lunatic who made the movie as well.


Hey, why don't we just suspend all of our rights while we are at it?
 
2012-09-13 07:05:34 AM

Beauf: jso2897: Beauf: jso2897: It's election season, and it looks like Al Qaeda is trying to get rid of the worst enemy it's had in the White House to date. And the useful idiots of the American Right are all too happy to try and oblige them.

YES! It seems that the entire world has become a very dangerous place for people who attack us no matter where they go. Terrorist organizers, recruiters, and financers seem to have had a slight problem with spontainously exploding over the last few years (and not as suicide bombers).

Well, I'm sure the bad guys timed this the way they did because they want to help Obama get elected, on account of he's so "soft" on terrorism. They are terrified that a courageous genius like Mitt Romney might get elected, so they timed this to help Obama.
That's the ticket.

No, I am pretty sure they don't want Obama to be elected


Well, why are they doing this now? I was hoping that some of the people who think Obama is the favorite of terrorists everywhere would explain that.
 
2012-09-13 07:05:42 AM
According to The Wall Street Journal, Bacile said he raised $5 million from about 100 Jewish donors to make the two-hour movie in California last year.

http://www.cnn.com/2012/09/12/world/anti-islam-film/index.html
 
2012-09-13 07:07:00 AM

GreenSun: Dumbass! Around here it's "Jesus" that's being called god, yet we see Jesus being played around with in the media as gay, sometimes a vampire/zombie slayer, or even a gardener.


There's nothing offensive about any of those though.
And number 2 is pretty badass, it's like an improvement on Jesus.
In fact, I'd like to see a movie made where Jesus fights Satan and is split into three fragments after being overwhelmed in battle: a kitsch gay dude who's constantly dressed for the pride parade and specializes in seduction of other homosexuals; an undead slaying Jesus geared out like a Witchhunter from Warhammer; and a mild mannered gardener Jesus who specializes in keeping a food supply/foraging as they travel through a post-apocalyptic wasteland seemingly always one step behind the trail of Satan incarnate/the anti-christ.
 
2012-09-13 07:07:05 AM

Agarista: I think the dubbing and promotion of the film are pretty much in line with a premeditated "fire" in a crowded cinema.


I see this sentiment a lot lately. I guess we may as well bury the first amendment. Now expressing controversial ideas is considered incitement to panic.

What next? People who are attacked for expressing their opinion about politics are asking for it?
 
2012-09-13 07:08:39 AM

jso2897: Beauf: jso2897: Beauf: jso2897: It's election season, and it looks like Al Qaeda is trying to get rid of the worst enemy it's had in the White House to date. And the useful idiots of the American Right are all too happy to try and oblige them.

YES! It seems that the entire world has become a very dangerous place for people who attack us no matter where they go. Terrorist organizers, recruiters, and financers seem to have had a slight problem with spontainously exploding over the last few years (and not as suicide bombers).

Well, I'm sure the bad guys timed this the way they did because they want to help Obama get elected, on account of he's so "soft" on terrorism. They are terrified that a courageous genius like Mitt Romney might get elected, so they timed this to help Obama.
That's the ticket.

No, I am pretty sure they don't want Obama to be elected

Well, why are they doing this now? I was hoping that some of the people who think Obama is the favorite of terrorists everywhere would explain that.


I am sure they will provide you with an "explanation" on a Glenn Beck style chalkboard. Likely something about him being a sekrit Mooslim.
 
2012-09-13 07:08:42 AM

Tatterdemalian: There never is, when "progressives" are involved.


I thought the conservatives attacking the embassies were at fault here?
 
2012-09-13 07:09:24 AM
Religion is such a beautiful thing, binging such peace and comfort to the masses.
Everyone should dedicate his life to the service of the imaginary omnipotent sky being.
 
2012-09-13 07:09:25 AM
You expected something else when you portray nothing but weakness?

Thanks Obama.

That groveling apology is looking increasingly foolish.
 
2012-09-13 07:09:36 AM

Captain Steroid: Once is happenstance. Twice is coincidence. Three times, there's a country involved.

My guess is it's one that starts with an "Al" and ends with a "Qaeda". :-(


That's not a country.
 
2012-09-13 07:10:03 AM

Bit'O'Gristle: The President needs to release a statement such as this,

"I'm sad to report that our embassy in Yemen has been attacked in yet another vile example of mob violence. The United States will not tolerate attacks on its Sovereign territory and injury or death upon its citizens. We have no wish for violence and only want to peacefully co-exist with every other culture that is upon this planet. We as a nation have a deep respect for ALL religions, including Islam, and expect the same level of respect and treatment from all nations. But....be warned. Our tolerance for loss of American lives only goes so far, and we WILL defend ourselves, These senseless attacks upon our citizens must cease, or the circle of violence will only escalate to a level where it would be very hard to stop it from cascading to a full military action. Please use common sense and stand down, we have no wish to hurt anyone, but we will not stand by while our people and property are destroyed. God bless you, and God bless America.


Yeah I'm going to go ahead and wait for hell to freeze over.

I'm sorry but attacks on sovereign embassies because of a stupid YouTube video is disgraceful. And this administration's hat-in-hand response to it is even worse.

Bad thing is, because of the previous administration's monkey joe proxy war bullshiat, I'm not sure we have the military fighting power to respond in the way you are describing. In order to do so they would have to spin up the draft again.

Is this the economic recovery plan? Conscription of college age males who can't get jobs right now?

/dons the tinfoil hat
 
2012-09-13 07:11:16 AM

randomjsa: You expected something else when you portray nothing but weakness?

Thanks Obama.

That groveling apology is looking increasingly foolish.


Put a butt plug in that pie hole and respect the president, hooplehead.
 
2012-09-13 07:11:55 AM
Seriously. If this is a coordinated thing by Al Qaeda groups, or even if they're just playing copycat, we need to be beefing up security in places like Pakistan, Gulf countries, and even some of the other usual suspects in Africa. It looks like Al Qaeda has realized that inciting mob violence is much more effective at creating chaos than a "simple" but deadlier bombing.
 
2012-09-13 07:11:58 AM

WMittensRomney: Captain Steroid: Once is happenstance. Twice is coincidence. Three times, there's a country involved.

My guess is it's one that starts with an "Al" and ends with a "Qaeda". :-(

That's not a country.


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Shhhh! He pays to post here, he's "special".
 
2012-09-13 07:12:01 AM

shotglasss: [waznmentobe.com image 600x506]


First of all, you're threadshiatting. Secondly, considering GWB set the record for most vacation time taken by any president, are you sure you want to go there?
 
2012-09-13 07:12:06 AM

Mrbogey: Agarista: I think the dubbing and promotion of the film are pretty much in line with a premeditated "fire" in a crowded cinema.

I see this sentiment a lot lately. I guess we may as well bury the first amendment. Now expressing controversial ideas is considered incitement to panic.

What next? People who are attacked for expressing their opinion about politics are asking for it?


The intention to cause harm and to incite violence is not protected speech.
 
2012-09-13 07:12:41 AM
John McCain is going full political derp on the Today show. Shameful.
 
2012-09-13 07:12:47 AM

randomjsa: You expected something else when you portray nothing but weakness?

Thanks Obama.

That groveling apology is looking increasingly foolish.


You mean the apology where he said we were going to track the people who did this down and make them pay, which is actually credible given his penchant for whacking terrorists with Hellfires even in countries where they were completely safe under GW? That apology?
 
2012-09-13 07:12:49 AM
We should pull out all embassies in these nations, cut off all aid, cease all charity organizations erfforts' there.
 
2012-09-13 07:13:11 AM

Bontesla: fusillade762: Why does the Islamic world seem to susceptible to trolling? Can we turn that to our advantage?

I've been raising the same questions in regards to teatards, Republicans, and Fox News viewers. Why don't we start manipulating their insanity to achieve goals we want.


Um I think that's already being done. Problem is, rich whitey plantation owners are at the wheel.
 
2012-09-13 07:13:26 AM

Kittypie070: phlatulence 2012-09-13 06:21:55 AM

Organs waiting to be harvested, drug testing? You got a whole bunch of subjects.

**SLAP**

They are fellow human beings, not commodities, you #$@&!
WHY THE HELL CAN'T YOU READ THE REST OF THE THREAD!?


Nope humans are supposed to be able to reason.... Unless they're
 
2012-09-13 07:13:32 AM

o5iiawah: Bit'O'Gristle: The President needs to release a statement such as this,

"I'm sad to report that our embassy in Yemen has been attacked in yet another vile example of mob violence. The United States will not tolerate attacks on its Sovereign territory and injury or death upon its citizens. We have no wish for violence and only want to peacefully co-exist with every other culture that is upon this planet. We as a nation have a deep respect for ALL religions, including Islam, and expect the same level of respect and treatment from all nations. But....be warned. Our tolerance for loss of American lives only goes so far, and we WILL defend ourselves, These senseless attacks upon our citizens must cease, or the circle of violence will only escalate to a level where it would be very hard to stop it from cascading to a full military action. Please use common sense and stand down, we have no wish to hurt anyone, but we will not stand by while our people and property are destroyed. God bless you, and God bless America.

Instead, it will be more like this:

"My fellow americans and citizens of the world. Today, I'd like to apologize for the following things: White privilege, Christianity, American exceptionalism, Pork, McDonalds, George W. Bush, Ronald Reagan and General Pershing, Facebook, Skirts, birth control, shopping, dancing, bicycles, music, Jews, Justin Bieber, Katy Perry, Ke$ha, QVC, The Philadelphia Eagles, Rosie O'Donnell, republicans and Glenn Beck. Please stop raiding our embassies. Thanks"


You only said 'pork' once.
 
2012-09-13 07:13:32 AM
well, peter king just condemed Obama for apologising to Libya. Called in to my local fox channel. 5wnyw home of the keep farking that chicken guy.
 
2012-09-13 07:13:52 AM
Yemen is a rough place and has been on the verge of civil war since the beginning of the Arab Spring. It was a sort-of democracy before that. And before that it was two countries and one conquered the other one.

I would expect the American embassy to be pretty heavily guarded. Hope so.

Also Yemen is a beautiful country with an amazing cultural heritage, and Yemen/Ethiopia is one of the world's oldest centers of civilization. The capital, Sana'a, is one of the world's most beautiful cities.

www.yemen.jp

GIS to see more.
 
2012-09-13 07:14:38 AM

Mrbogey: Agarista: I think the dubbing and promotion of the film are pretty much in line with a premeditated "fire" in a crowded cinema.

I see this sentiment a lot lately. I guess we may as well bury the first amendment. Now expressing controversial ideas is considered incitement to panic.

What next? People who are attacked for expressing their opinion about politics are asking for it?


Nah. I don't think anybody with any sense thinks that analogy applies. This "film" is an unfortunate embarrassment, but at this point it's pretty obvious that it is a convenient excuse for something that was planned in advance.
The question is - why now? Based on track record, if i were a member of AlQaeda, I would rather see a Republican in the White House than Obama. But it may have nothing to do with our elections. I personally think that part of the world is bayshiat crazy, and I don't really see much percentage in our hanging aroung there - but that's just me.
 
2012-09-13 07:16:22 AM

Cpl.D: I thought they equipped all US embassies with that active denial system. It really would've been helpful, here.


Yes, because angry peasants are never a match for high tech weapons systems, as the three month US actions in Afghanistan and Iraq showed.
 
2012-09-13 07:17:16 AM

jso2897: Based on track record, if i were a member of AlQaeda, I would rather see a Republican in the White House than Obama. But it may have nothing to do with our elections


I find it hard to believe that Al Qaeda gives much of a rat's ass whether a Democrat or Republican is sitting in that office. They hate us on a pretty basic level, and I doubt that means anything more than window dressing to them.
 
2012-09-13 07:17:34 AM

shotglasss: [waznmentobe.com image 600x506]


This joke about Obama golfing is an expression of Republican shame about the fact that Bush took so many vacations.

All very Freudian.
 
2012-09-13 07:17:58 AM

jaybeezey: somedude210: poe_zlaw: I wonder how many low-budget lame ass movies of been made about America and Christianity in the middle east How many embassies got stormed by peaceloving Americans in the United States?

I'm gonna assume none, since, you know, there's no proof that they exist.

This, however, was a deliberate attempt to show it to the Muslim world in order to piss them right the fark off.

/wouldn't at all be surprised if this traced back to Team Romney

Democrat truthers, how unoriginal.

So releasing something on YouTube is a deliberate attempt to push something on the arabs? If so, they are likely attacking to get dumb shiat Americans to knock it off with the Gotye copycat videos.


It's not that posting something on Youtube is a deliberate attempt to piss off Muslims (not Arabs. Two different things). It's the strange coincidences that came about involving the movie in the last week or so that looks like the posters were trying to start something. It also doesn't help that the creator of the video went into hiding before shiat hit the fan.

Does this mean that it's definitely a conspiracy? Nope. It could very well just be some idiot that wanted to post it on youtube, caption an arabic version and post it on youtube as well and send out a handful of "FW:FW:FW:FW:FW: LOOK AT THESE HEATHEN AMERICANS!1!!1!!!1!!!!" emails.
 
2012-09-13 07:19:17 AM
Somewhere in Kansas, Fred Phelps is rallying his family. He knows he's being out-Phelpsed by some punkass named Jones.
 
2012-09-13 07:19:18 AM

Agarista: Mrbogey: Agarista: I think the dubbing and promotion of the film are pretty much in line with a premeditated "fire" in a crowded cinema.

I see this sentiment a lot lately. I guess we may as well bury the first amendment. Now expressing controversial ideas is considered incitement to panic.

What next? People who are attacked for expressing their opinion about politics are asking for it?

The intention to cause harm and to incite violence is not protected speech.

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Excellent! So the next time you make fun of Christians I should kick you arse, and in turn you should then be arrested for inciting violence. Your kind of derp scares the hell out of me.
 
2012-09-13 07:19:20 AM
Hey, FL dipshait pastor! Way to put American lives in danger overseas because of your religious intolerance. Serious golf clap for you you farking fark! May you be raped by a camel.
 
2012-09-13 07:19:23 AM

orbister: Cpl.D: I thought they equipped all US embassies with that active denial system. It really would've been helpful, here.

Yes, because angry peasants are never a match for high tech weapons systems, as the three month US actions in Afghanistan and Iraq showed.


Two Marines with rifles could take care of that climbing-the-gate problem.
No will to fight? Poor leadership? What's the problem here?
 
2012-09-13 07:20:27 AM

Joe Six-Keg:

On a serious note, it makes a bit of sense, especially with the anniversary of 9/11 and the recent FRMing of their head guy in Yemen.


Field-replaceable module?
 
2012-09-13 07:20:29 AM

randomjsa: You expected something else when you portray nothing but weakness?

Thanks Obama.

That groveling apology is looking increasingly foolish.


For Chrissakes, give it a rest.
 
2012-09-13 07:20:44 AM

jso2897: The question is - why now?


Really? This started on 9/11.
In Cairo, the original protest (not the one by street kids now) was a bunch of Salafists chanting "We are Osama". And Ayman al Zawahari's (fuzzy on this, but I believe he was at some point akin to Osama's spiritual mentor) brother claimed to have had a role in organizing that protest.
 
2012-09-13 07:20:46 AM

HotIgneous Intruder: orbister: Cpl.D: I thought they equipped all US embassies with that active denial system. It really would've been helpful, here.

Yes, because angry peasants are never a match for high tech weapons systems, as the three month US actions in Afghanistan and Iraq showed.

Two Marines with rifles could take care of that climbing-the-gate problem.
No will to fight? Poor leadership? What's the problem here?


was that a dig at Obama or are you talking about the rioters having poor leadership?
 
2012-09-13 07:22:04 AM
s3-ec.buzzfed.com
 
2012-09-13 07:22:08 AM

Confabulat: jso2897: Based on track record, if i were a member of AlQaeda, I would rather see a Republican in the White House than Obama. But it may have nothing to do with our elections

I find it hard to believe that Al Qaeda gives much of a rat's ass whether a Democrat or Republican is sitting in that office. They hate us on a pretty basic level, and I doubt that means anything more than window dressing to them.


Well, their fortunes have differed under different Presidents. Reagan and Bush Sr. helped create them in the first place, by supporting the Muhadjadin. Slcik Willie was vaguely hostile towards them, but did little. Under Bush Jr., they throve, and grew to many times their former size. Under Obama, they have been decimated - they are at a fraction of their Bush-era strength. If I were them, I would want the guy with a foreign policy team made up of Bush leftovers a lot more than Obama in the WH.
Why DID they decide to do this now? Because the film is obviously an excuse, not a reason.
 
2012-09-13 07:22:30 AM

duckfarkit: Sweet baby Jesus. The reverb from the Arab Spring. I so want Obama to handle this well; otherwise this is ammo for the rtards & a recipe for disaster


Whatever he does they will claim he should have done the opposite, so it's really a no win situation trying to come off looking good in their eyes.
 
2012-09-13 07:23:57 AM

Agarista: I think the dubbing and promotion of the film are pretty much in line with a premeditated "fire" in a crowded cinema.


It's not really analogous at all but it's just as bad.
In this case, there is no false claim being made as in the shouting fire analogy, but showing this film trailer is certain to inflame criminal behavior.

Maybe youTube should, uh, take it down. On account of the murders and stormed embassies and stuff.
If anyone typed just a few lines from that video here on fark, they'd get banned for hate speech instantly.
 
2012-09-13 07:24:23 AM

m2313: jso2897: The question is - why now?

Really? This started on 9/11.
In Cairo, the original protest (not the one by street kids now) was a bunch of Salafists chanting "We are Osama". And Ayman al Zawahari's (fuzzy on this, but I believe he was at some point akin to Osama's spiritual mentor) brother claimed to have had a role in organizing that protest.


So you think they timed it this way out of sentimentality?
OK.
Sure.
 
2012-09-13 07:24:38 AM

m2313: And Ayman al Zawahari's


*He's also the current leader of Al Qaeda and was one of the "number 2" guys before Osama kicked the bucket.
 
2012-09-13 07:26:05 AM

HotIgneous Intruder: orbister: Cpl.D: I thought they equipped all US embassies with that active denial system. It really would've been helpful, here.

Yes, because angry peasants are never a match for high tech weapons systems, as the three month US actions in Afghanistan and Iraq showed.

Two Marines with rifles could take care of that climbing-the-gate problem.
No will to fight? Poor leadership? What's the problem here?


Probably safer and less inflammatory to just hide in the panic room and let them riot and then go home after a few hours of flag and tire burning. Sweet up the glass, hire a cleaning crew, sweet up the trash and GBTW.

Havent you read any history? You start shooting people and things get really out of hand really quick. I would imagine the Marines guarding the compound know what theyre doing, and if theyre not shooting biatches then no biatches gonna be shot.

I would imagine the Libyan govt is rather embarrassed and saying all sorts of apologies to Washington and will round up some guys to torture to death for us as compensation for the dead diplomat and EVE Online/Something Awful admin. The rest of the riots will probably be allowed to run their course.
 
2012-09-13 07:26:44 AM

orbister: Cpl.D: I thought they equipped all US embassies with that active denial system. It really would've been helpful, here.

Yes, because angry peasants are never a match for high tech weapons systems, as the three month US actions in Afghanistan and Iraq showed.


Yeah but people have been keeping other people out of buildings for 6000 years, if you've got guys with rifles and less-than-lethal weapons all you really need is a wall with some broken glass on top. I would have thought that the designers of American Embassies overseas had mastered that advanced technology.
 
2012-09-13 07:27:07 AM
i.imgur.comi1.cpcache.com

Maybe a little less gloating about how you killed a hero of the nutjob fundies over there... because there is no way they could be upset about that at all.
 
2012-09-13 07:27:12 AM

m2313: m2313: And Ayman al Zawahari's

*He's also the current leader of Al Qaeda and was one of the "number 2" guys before Osama kicked the bucket.


Was, he has a red line through his name on Obama's terrorist hit list after making it through Bush's tenure unscathed.
 
2012-09-13 07:27:24 AM
img141.imageshack.us

Infidel Defilers. They shall all drown in lakes of blood. Now they will know why they are afraid of the dark. Now they learn why they fear the night.
 
2012-09-13 07:28:01 AM

somedude210: SuperT: ya know, I say just one of these shiat bird dirt holes we should just pick to treat like the romans would. Just say "I'm tired of putting up with your retarded horse shiat, you either come on board, be americans and be cool or we go full 13 legion on your ass". No occupation, just kill the opposition and get on with your day. Remind them that we treat these little pissant extremist with kid gloves because we don't want to hurt the innocent people they hide amoung.

then we have a whole other issue. The great thing going for the Romans was that they were the only empire in the known world. We have several right now, so if we did something like that, the world would go apeshiat and we'd be held accountable


Excluding the Parthian / Sassanid empire, right?
 
2012-09-13 07:28:11 AM

doglover: You know what looks worse in the media than your embassy gettin' a little B&E? Unleashing automatic weapons on unarmed civilians.


It's hardly a 'little B&E' when you have an ambassador getting killed. The automatic weapons should be broken out and USED when they get onto the compound.

I should note that even fired up Muslims should think twice about breaking in when there's a machine gun nest pointed at them should they get through the gate/over the wall.

Guns don't work as well if you let your opponent within HtH range, and we've still been killing each other for a far longer time with HtH than we have with guns.

/Most Murders aren't in the world aren't done with guns.
 
2012-09-13 07:28:12 AM

Agarista: Mrbogey: Agarista: I think the dubbing and promotion of the film are pretty much in line with a premeditated "fire" in a crowded cinema.

I see this sentiment a lot lately. I guess we may as well bury the first amendment. Now expressing controversial ideas is considered incitement to panic.

What next? People who are attacked for expressing their opinion about politics are asking for it?

The intention to cause harm and to incite violence is not protected speech.


you've harmed me with your abuse of language and misunderstanding of basic free speech rights. How dare you try and incite me!
 
2012-09-13 07:28:16 AM

Father_Jack: HotIgneous Intruder: orbister: Cpl.D: I thought they equipped all US embassies with that active denial system. It really would've been helpful, here.

Yes, because angry peasants are never a match for high tech weapons systems, as the three month US actions in Afghanistan and Iraq showed.

Two Marines with rifles could take care of that climbing-the-gate problem.
No will to fight? Poor leadership? What's the problem here?

Probably safer and less inflammatory to just hide in the panic room and let them riot and then go home after a few hours of flag and tire burning. Sweet up the glass, hire a cleaning crew, sweet up the trash and GBTW.

Havent you read any history? You start shooting people and things get really out of hand really quick. I would imagine the Marines guarding the compound know what theyre doing, and if theyre not shooting biatches then no biatches gonna be shot.

I would imagine the Libyan govt is rather embarrassed and saying all sorts of apologies to Washington and will round up some guys to torture to death for us as compensation for the dead diplomat and EVE Online/Something Awful admin. The rest of the riots will probably be allowed to run their course.


When you are doing business inside other people's countries, there are some limitations on what you can do.
 
2012-09-13 07:28:35 AM
You know what? F*CK IT! I'm not going to get worked up about a bunch of butthurt donkey-molesters in some craphole Islamist country anymore. Haters gonna hate. Period. Nothing we do short of blowing them up will effect them.

Just

blow

them

up!
 
2012-09-13 07:28:47 AM

doglover: You can probably dig up some crazy people to take experimental drugs at high doses to asses safety. I don't think you can find mice who can consent to that.


I wasn't aware crazy people could legally consent to things.
 
2012-09-13 07:29:05 AM

jso2897: So you think they timed it this way out of sentimentality?
OK.
Sure.


They were chanting "We are Osama" on 9/11. And they're religious fundamentalists, they're farking hyper-sentimental/emotional about shiat especially when it comes to Mohammed.
Why do nationalists/fascists take action/attempt to co-opt days of patriotism, why does the left take huge actions on May Day, etc. etc.
I don't see what's so out of character about it.
 
2012-09-13 07:29:53 AM

Snowflake Tubbybottom: [i.imgur.com image 450x286][i1.cpcache.com image 250x250]

Maybe a little less gloating about how you killed a hero of the nutjob fundies over there... because there is no way they could be upset about that at all.


You're right, all that gloating has finally convinced al qaeda that they need to act.
 
2012-09-13 07:29:57 AM

manimal2878: duckfarkit: Sweet baby Jesus. The reverb from the Arab Spring. I so want Obama to handle this well; otherwise this is ammo for the rtards & a recipe for disaster

Whatever he does they will claim he should have done the opposite, so it's really a no win situation trying to come off looking good in their eyes.


All you have to do is look through this thread to see that.
 
2012-09-13 07:31:07 AM
So, any of you big talking trolls going to give the exact policy that Obama "created" that directly caused everybody to throw down their "Tickle Me Goat Carcass" and start fighting or are you guys waiting for Rush and Palin tell you what to say?
 
2012-09-13 07:31:45 AM

m2313: jso2897: So you think they timed it this way out of sentimentality?
OK.
Sure.

They were chanting "We are Osama" on 9/11. And they're religious fundamentalists, they're farking hyper-sentimental/emotional about shiat especially when it comes to Mohammed.
Why do nationalists/fascists take action/attempt to co-opt days of patriotism, why does the left take huge actions on May Day, etc. etc.
I don't see what's so out of character about it.


So you don't think this reflects any desire on their part to influence real world events? It's all just symbolism and sentiment?
I am not very certain of that.
 
2012-09-13 07:31:57 AM

shotglasss: [waznmentobe.com image 600x506]


No one takes you seriously shotglass.

Why the shotglass btw, because you have a tiny amount of anything of value inside?

Well I dont really expect an answer from you, seeing as how tired you sound.
 
2012-09-13 07:32:33 AM

Tatterdemalian: rev. dave: Why don't we shoot people who invade our embassies?
It is like someone invading your home, you should be able to shoot them before they hurt someone.

Because it makes some FARKers cry and write the word *SLAP* in big letters.

/and that's worse than being beaten to death by Libyans who are "carrying you to the hospital"
//oh wait, no it isn't... except in the magical world of FARK liberals


King Derp from Derpinstan, I salute you

/visiting, royalty, kids!
 
2012-09-13 07:33:04 AM
Ah Yemen, desperately poor, staggering unemployment, little in the way of anything to build upon, an old tribal system that makes a mess of some things, Saudi Arabia next door doing not much to help. That something is happening in Yemen is not a surprise, the surprise is that something doesn't happen more often.
 
2012-09-13 07:33:59 AM

Tamater: Romney's statement condemning Obama's response to this attack due any minute now.


Obama's apology from "all Americans" for being, well... American due any day now...

 
2012-09-13 07:34:02 AM

Raharu: shotglasss: [waznmentobe.com image 600x506]

No one takes you seriously shotglass.

Why thethe name shotglass btw, because you have a tiny amount of anything of value inside?

Well I dont really expect an answer from you, seeing as how tired you sound.


FTFMS
 
2012-09-13 07:34:12 AM
You know, if President Bush hadn't ordered the bombing of Libya in 2011 and all of those drone strikes in Yemen, we wouldn't be in this mess. Bleeping Republicans - we're always having to clean up their messes.
 
2012-09-13 07:34:44 AM

Insatiable Jesus: First line of TFA:

Protesters angry over an obscure film critical of Islam's Prophet Muhammad stormed the U.S. Embassy in Sanaa, Yemen, on Thursday, as unrest that led to the deaths of a U.S. ambassador and three other Americans in Libya spread to other countries in the region.

Bullshiat. Bullshiat. Bullshiat.

The producer of this film turns out to not exist. The screening that so upset the Muslim world never happened. News organizations have yet to find any Muslim on the street who has seen it, most of those interviewed hadn't even heard of it.

This stinks to high heaven.

We are being used, yet again.


The truth does not matter anymore; this is mass hysteria.
 
2012-09-13 07:34:54 AM

Wodan11: We should pull out all embassies in these nations, cut off all aid, cease all charity organizations erfforts' there.


This, this & THIS.
 
2012-09-13 07:35:55 AM

vegasj: Tamater: Romney's statement condemning Obama's response to this attack due any minute now.

Obama's apology from "all Americans" for being, well... American due any day now...


Honestly, we should apologize to the world for people like you. What's nice is that we don't have to, because they're thankful we're here to contain you.
 
2012-09-13 07:36:21 AM
I found out a few hours ago that my brother-in-law (who was on his way to going home to Virginia after spending almost a year at sea) is in one of those destroyers that is headed to Libya.

Of course my wife is flipping out over the news.
 
2012-09-13 07:36:48 AM

vegasj: Wodan11: We should pull out all embassies in these nations, cut off all aid, cease all charity organizations erfforts' there.

This, this & THIS.


We should remove all ability to effect the situation.

This is GOP strategery at its finest.
 
2012-09-13 07:36:59 AM

Father_Jack: HotIgneous Intruder: orbister: Cpl.D: I thought they equipped all US embassies with that active denial system. It really would've been helpful, here.

Yes, because angry peasants are never a match for high tech weapons systems, as the three month US actions in Afghanistan and Iraq showed.

Two Marines with rifles could take care of that climbing-the-gate problem.
No will to fight? Poor leadership? What's the problem here?

Probably safer and less inflammatory to just hide in the panic room and let them riot and then go home after a few hours of flag and tire burning. Sweet up the glass, hire a cleaning crew, sweet up the trash and GBTW.

Havent you read any history? You start shooting people and things get really out of hand really quick. I would imagine the Marines guarding the compound know what theyre doing, and if theyre not shooting biatches then no biatches gonna be shot.

I would imagine the Libyan govt is rather embarrassed and saying all sorts of apologies to Washington and will round up some guys to torture to death for us as compensation for the dead diplomat and EVE Online/Something Awful admin. The rest of the riots will probably be allowed to run their course.


Except that at the Libyan embassy, the Libyan guards themselves were shooting back. Their hands weren't bound by some absurd policy against self defense.

If you make it a habit of being passive, people are going to think that looting the place whenever your jimmies are ruffled is the norm. They'll be in that building every month and this risks a greater diplomatic riff.
What's worse is even the locals will stop helping when they realize you aren't covering your own bases.

This is an embassy, not a playground. Put some razor wire round that biatch, electrify the fences, arm the guards and use every technological trick to your advantage.
Diplomacy can't happen if some idiot is taking a dump in your conference room whenever he finds something to be outraged about.
 
2012-09-13 07:37:23 AM

WhiskeyBender: reated" that directly caused everybody to throw down their "Tickle Me Goat Carcass" and start fighting or are you guys waiting for Rush and Palin tell you what to say?


.
You are the only one to say that Obama created this, so you should start.
 
2012-09-13 07:37:53 AM

TV's Vinnie: You know what? F*CK IT! I'm not going to get worked up about a bunch of butthurt donkey-molesters in some craphole Islamist country anymore. Haters gonna hate. Period. Nothing we do short of blowing them up will effect them.

Just

blow

them

up!




An eye for an eye leaves the whole world blind. If we want the moral high ground, we must act like it.
 
2012-09-13 07:38:46 AM

Wodan11: We should pull out all embassies in these nations, cut off all aid, cease all charity organizations erfforts' there.


Great idea let's just make innocent people suffer, that couldn't possibly come back to kick us in the ass.
 
2012-09-13 07:39:05 AM

david_gaithersburg: Heading to Dubai for a week, curious to find out if Fark is banned there.


Nobody cares.

Wellbye.jpg
 
2012-09-13 07:39:33 AM

david_gaithersburg: WhiskeyBender: reated" that directly caused everybody to throw down their "Tickle Me Goat Carcass" and start fighting or are you guys waiting for Rush and Palin tell you what to say?

.
You are the only one to say that Obama created this, so you should start.


well him and John McCain.
 
2012-09-13 07:39:54 AM

jso2897: So you don't think this reflects any desire on their part to influence real world events? It's all just symbolism and sentiment?


Well the mobs aren't accomplishing shiat, the only real thing they've done is the dead in Libya. We are talking about the type of people who riot and kill over book burnings on the other half of the world, so yes, sentiment and symbolism goes a long way.
But if there's anything tactical to it 1) It strains US relations with already contentious/newly formed Middle Eastern governments 2) It's a rallying cry for momentum/distraction why they're planning something else 3) It provokes the governments involved. If repression or even too heavy-handed self-defense is used and something goes wrong, you have new martyrs to rally around and an increase in the desire to fight/resist.
I don't think they care about the domestic politics/political parties of the US, they're just trying to cut us off from regional allies or provoke an overreaction so they can have more propaganda/support.
 
2012-09-13 07:40:24 AM

Sgt Stubby: nmemkha: While the "outrage" is most likely an excuse to vent anger at the US, the producers of the film were callously negligent. Free Speech is a right, but with every right comes a responsibility. They knew there would be violence at the release of the film and yet they released it anyway.


That's a great indictment against the insanity and evil of islam. It also sums up the left's apologetic/symbiotic relationship with the global jihad quite succinctly.

Good job!


Man, i don't know. Do you really think it's about this video? At first, I kind of thought it was, but this is looking more and more concerted and coordinated with each passing day. Libya and yemen, in particular, have AlQaeda's fingerprints all over them. The video is an embarrassment to any adult, but I'm starting to doubt that it is really the cause of all this.
 
2012-09-13 07:40:37 AM
Obama is a peace guy. Why are they still mad? He is on their side.

Why aren't there heavily armed marines stationed at our embassies? Anyone gets on the gates like that, you shoot them. Have air support standing by in case you need heavy fire support. Problem solved.

Need to take the kid gloves off and leave them off. Pussy McHopeChange is just like Carter.
 
2012-09-13 07:40:57 AM

beta_plus: You know, if President Bush hadn't ordered the bombing of Libya in 2011 and all of those drone strikes in Yemen, we wouldn't be in this mess. Bleeping Republicans - we're always having to clean up their messes.


Wait... Bush is a former Prime Minister of Denmark?
Who knew?
 
2012-09-13 07:41:19 AM

m2313: . We are talking about the type of people who riot and kill over book burnings on the other half of the world


In the case of Libya that may just be a cover story, indeed in Egypt it may be too.
 
2012-09-13 07:42:20 AM
Have the seas stopped rising yet?

Obama 2012.
 
2012-09-13 07:42:43 AM
i232.photobucket.com
 
2012-09-13 07:43:42 AM

david_gaithersburg: WhiskeyBender: reated" that directly caused everybody to throw down their "Tickle Me Goat Carcass" and start fighting or are you guys waiting for Rush and Palin tell you what to say?

.
You are the only one to say that Obama created this, so you should start.


Evidently reading is not a strong suit for you. Try reading every other post. I DID NOT say he created this.
 
2012-09-13 07:46:12 AM

Nofun: TV's Vinnie: You know what? F*CK IT! I'm not going to get worked up about a bunch of butthurt donkey-molesters in some craphole Islamist country anymore. Haters gonna hate. Period. Nothing we do short of blowing them up will effect them.

Just

blow

them

up!



An eye for an eye leaves the whole world blind. If we want the moral high ground, we must act like it.


No, it leaves the whole world one-eyed and I would prefer that my enemy share my lack of depth perception. That being said, we have to be smart about how we do it. GW's approach to ridding the world of terrorists (and that of most of the right wing "just blow 'em all up" crowd) was somewhat akin to ridding the world of starfish by cutting off their arms and throwing them back into the water. I prefer the well planned surgical strike on the people responsible.
 
2012-09-13 07:46:24 AM

m2313: jso2897: So you don't think this reflects any desire on their part to influence real world events? It's all just symbolism and sentiment?

Well the mobs aren't accomplishing shiat, the only real thing they've done is the dead in Libya. We are talking about the type of people who riot and kill over book burnings on the other half of the world, so yes, sentiment and symbolism goes a long way.
But if there's anything tactical to it 1) It strains US relations with already contentious/newly formed Middle Eastern governments 2) It's a rallying cry for momentum/distraction why they're planning something else 3) It provokes the governments involved. If repression or even too heavy-handed self-defense is used and something goes wrong, you have new martyrs to rally around and an increase in the desire to fight/resist.
I don't think they care about the domestic politics/political parties of the US, they're just trying to cut us off from regional allies or provoke an overreaction so they can have more propaganda/support.


You said that before. let me be clear: I disagree with you. Under our last president, AlQaeda grew many times in size. under this one, they have been decimated. Historically, they do a lot better under Republican, Neoconservative presidents - and Mittens wants to bring the same team on board.
I realize that this is rejected because it does not fit with the "Hurr, durr, librul Obammy soft on terror"
narrative, but it fits with the actual facts.
In the real world, the fortunes of AlQaeda have suffered terribly under Obama - if i were them, I would be eager to get him out of the WH, and replaced with a gormless, nutless neocon like Romney.
 
2012-09-13 07:46:25 AM
A lot of right wingers became experts on embassy security yesterday it seems.

"I don't understand why Obama didn't order the space marines to descend from our moon base to decimate the entire nation of Libya! This was common practice in the Reagan era! I weep for this nation."
 
2012-09-13 07:46:49 AM
img846.imageshack.us
 
2012-09-13 07:47:14 AM

Thunderpipes: Need to take the kid gloves off and leave them off. Pussy McHopeChange is just like Carter.


You douches need to get your talking points straight. Is Obama a war monger for sending over those drones and having bin Laden killed instead of captured or is he a pussy for not invading a few random countries in response to a riot?
 
2012-09-13 07:47:35 AM
I thought we would be waking up to interesting news, but i figured ir would be back at the ongoing protests in cairo. Its funny watching the lefties continue to minimize these events as "oh we have extremists on both side" while we watch this continue to engulf the whole arab world. Whats funny is that these protests are coming from the salafists who we helped bring to power, its the moderates and liberals who should be the most pissed off at us.
 
2012-09-13 07:47:50 AM

way south: So instead of blaming it on bad foreign policy or intolerant people who think storming embassies is a good idea, so far Fark has blamed it on:

1. The Jews.
2. Freedom of speech in the US.
3. An amateur film maker.
4. Israel (The Jews).
5. The CIA.
6. Drugs.
7. The Arab Spring.
8. Mitt Romney.


The blame can be laid at the feet of the ex-CIA (5) amateur film maker (3) who was an Israeli (4) Jew (1) drug addict (6) upset about the Arab Spring (7) & US foreign policy (-1) and exercised his freedom of speech (2) at the direction of Mitt Romney (8) in order to incite the intolerant (0).

Wake up, Sheeple!
 
2012-09-13 07:48:00 AM

way south: Diplomacy can't happen if some idiot is taking a dump in your conference room whenever he finds something to be outraged about.


A regular, healthy bowel movement does more to promote peace, understanding, and cooperation than diplomacy does.
 
2012-09-13 07:48:32 AM

Mugato: Thunderpipes: Need to take the kid gloves off and leave them off. Pussy McHopeChange is just like Carter.

You douches need to get your talking points straight. Is Obama a war monger for sending over those drones and having bin Laden killed instead of captured or is he a pussy for not invading a few random countries in response to a riot?


I don't think Romney is the Quantum Candidate anymore
 
2012-09-13 07:49:39 AM
Places where oppression and ignorance reign protest against a country whose culture threatens that...after I got past the shock of it, I just really feel sorry for these people. They will never know peace or stability as long as the many are ruled by the few who use religion and violence as a means of suppression.
 
2012-09-13 07:49:48 AM

ChuDogg: Whats funny is that these protests are coming from the salafists who we helped bring to power, its the moderates and liberals who should be the most pissed off at us.


You and Mitt seem to find the death of Americans funny for some reason. Why is that?
 
2012-09-13 07:50:22 AM
Dear Religious Fundamentalists of Planet Earth,

We are tired of playing these games.
Go Fark yourselves.


I don't want this fundamentalism crap. Christians, Muslims, whatever. It seems like the fundies of the world are itching for a holy war ALL SIDES INCLUDED.
This isn't Egypt or Libya or Yemen alone. This is 'our religion is supreme'!

Not national boundaries, rational boundaries.
 
2012-09-13 07:50:38 AM
s8.postimage.org
 
2012-09-13 07:51:14 AM

Thunderpipes: Obama is a peace guy. Why are they still mad? He is on their side.

Why aren't there heavily armed marines stationed at our embassies? Anyone gets on the gates like that, you shoot them. Have air support standing by in case you need heavy fire support. Problem solved.

Need to take the kid gloves off and leave them off. Pussy McHopeChange is just like Carter.


Yeah, I think the State Department has some answering to do. What exactly is our security footing at these embassies. You know, we don't have a spotless history with those things over there.

The Libyan thing is kind of baffling. Apparently there have been other recent attacks on that consulate and those of other nations in that area. We've had drones checking out terror cell areas around there since mid-summer. The diplomat that got killed even raised the terrorist issue with Washington.

This sucks. We look completely unprepared.
 
2012-09-13 07:53:08 AM

bborchar: Places where oppression and ignorance reign protest against a country whose culture threatens that...after I got past the shock of it, I just really feel sorry for these people. They will never know peace or stability as long as the many are ruled by the few who use religion and violence as a means of suppression.


Oh the irony.
 
2012-09-13 07:53:53 AM

HotWingConspiracy: A lot of right wingers became experts on embassy security yesterday it seems.

"I don't understand why Obama didn't order the space marines to descend from our moon base to decimate the entire nation of Libya! This was common practice in the Reagan era! I weep for this nation."


I know, because this list of embassy attacks below didn't happen:

2002
June 14, Karachi, Pakistan: bomb explodes outside American consulate in Karachi, Pakistan, killing 12. Linked to al-Qaeda.

2004
Dec. 6, Jeddah, Saudi Arabia: terrorists storm the U.S. consulate, killing 5 consulate employees. 4 terrorists were killed by Saudi security.

2006
Sept. 13, Damascus, Syria: an attack by four gunman on the American embassy is foiled.

2007
Jan. 12, Athens, Greece: the U.S. embassy is fired on by an anti-tank missile causing damage but no injuries.

2008
Sept. 16, Yemen: a car bomb and a rocket strike the U.S. embassy in Yemen as staff arrived to work, killing 16 people, including 4 civilians. At least 25 suspected al-Qaeda militants are arrested for the attack.
 
2012-09-13 07:54:11 AM
We have armed Marines on embassy grounds, right? They have automatic rifles available, right?

Why are the protesters who've crossed onto embassy grounds even alive?
 
2012-09-13 07:54:14 AM

way south: Father_Jack: HotIgneous Intruder: orbister: Cpl.D: I thought they equipped all US embassies with that active denial system. It really would've been helpful, here.

Yes, because angry peasants are never a match for high tech weapons systems, as the three month US actions in Afghanistan and Iraq showed.

Two Marines with rifles could take care of that climbing-the-gate problem.
No will to fight? Poor leadership? What's the problem here?

Probably safer and less inflammatory to just hide in the panic room and let them riot and then go home after a few hours of flag and tire burning. Sweet up the glass, hire a cleaning crew, sweet up the trash and GBTW.

Havent you read any history? You start shooting people and things get really out of hand really quick. I would imagine the Marines guarding the compound know what theyre doing, and if theyre not shooting biatches then no biatches gonna be shot.

I would imagine the Libyan govt is rather embarrassed and saying all sorts of apologies to Washington and will round up some guys to torture to death for us as compensation for the dead diplomat and EVE Online/Something Awful admin. The rest of the riots will probably be allowed to run their course.

Except that at the Libyan embassy, the Libyan guards themselves were shooting back. Their hands weren't bound by some absurd policy against self defense.

If you make it a habit of being passive, people are going to think that looting the place whenever your jimmies are ruffled is the norm. They'll be in that building every month and this risks a greater diplomatic riff.
What's worse is even the locals will stop helping when they realize you aren't covering your own bases.

This is an embassy, not a playground. Put some razor wire round that biatch, electrify the fences, arm the guards and use every technological trick to your advantage.
Diplomacy can't happen if some idiot is taking a dump in your conference room whenever he finds something to be outraged about.


Who's talking about any „absurd policy against self defense"?

Ill boil it down to little words since evidently youre projecting Vietnam era rules of engagement into a situation where they don't exist:

We don't know what is going on there, and the marines guarding the gates do. If they think they'll need to kill people to protect themselves, im sure they will. Historically speaking, using deadly force against protestors, even unruly rioting ones, has often resulted in things escalating and getting much worse than if the riot had just occurred and blown itself out. As such its employed as a very last resort. Neither you nor I can evaluate whats going on from our comfy computers on different continents. But since we've not heard that deadly force has been used, I suppose we can assume it hasn't been because it doesn't need to be. Im sure the marines know what theyre doing, don't you? Or are you calling our marines cowards?
 
2012-09-13 07:54:21 AM

AndreMA: way south: So instead of blaming it on bad foreign policy or intolerant people who think storming embassies is a good idea, so far Fark has blamed it on:

1. The Jews.
2. Freedom of speech in the US.
3. An amateur film maker.
4. Israel (The Jews).
5. The CIA.
6. Drugs.
7. The Arab Spring.
8. Mitt Romney.


The blame can be laid at the feet of the ex-CIA (5) amateur film maker (3) who was an Israeli (4) Jew (1) drug addict (6) upset about the Arab Spring (7) & US foreign policy (-1) and exercised his freedom of speech (2) at the direction of Mitt Romney (8) in order to incite the intolerant (0).

Wake up, Sheeple!


For a total score of 31! Not bad.
 
2012-09-13 07:54:27 AM
www.battleswarmblog.com
 
2012-09-13 07:54:33 AM

Sgt Stubby: An armed response to intruders, be it at your business, home, embassy (or even country) is something that liberals do NOT tolerate. You must call the police and hope that they arrive in time.

Otherwise... somebody might get hurt.


God, you people are so full of shiat.
 
2012-09-13 07:55:36 AM

duckfarkit: Sweet baby Jesus. The reverb from the Arab Spring. I so want Obama to handle this well; otherwise this is ammo for the rtards & a recipe for disaster


You want Obama to handle it well for political reasons, not for the betterment of our country and the safety of the people in the embassy? You are no better than the Republicans who root for America to fail to spite Obama.
 
2012-09-13 07:55:41 AM
after 4 years of Obama they love us now. thanks liberals
 
2012-09-13 07:56:19 AM

SlothB77: after 4 years of Obama they love us now. thanks liberals


Thanks to all the Anti-Muslim videos and sentiment Obama is spewing out, who could blame them?
 
2012-09-13 07:57:32 AM
This ain't pretty. I wonder how long it will take to finally spread to Tel Aviv and Jerusalem?
 
2012-09-13 07:58:56 AM

Father_Jack: way south: Father_Jack: HotIgneous Intruder: orbister: Cpl.D: I thought they equipped all US embassies with that active denial system. It really would've been helpful, here.

Yes, because angry peasants are never a match for high tech weapons systems, as the three month US actions in Afghanistan and Iraq showed.

Two Marines with rifles could take care of that climbing-the-gate problem.
No will to fight? Poor leadership? What's the problem here?

Probably safer and less inflammatory to just hide in the panic room and let them riot and then go home after a few hours of flag and tire burning. Sweet up the glass, hire a cleaning crew, sweet up the trash and GBTW.

Havent you read any history? You start shooting people and things get really out of hand really quick. I would imagine the Marines guarding the compound know what theyre doing, and if theyre not shooting biatches then no biatches gonna be shot.

I would imagine the Libyan govt is rather embarrassed and saying all sorts of apologies to Washington and will round up some guys to torture to death for us as compensation for the dead diplomat and EVE Online/Something Awful admin. The rest of the riots will probably be allowed to run their course.

Except that at the Libyan embassy, the Libyan guards themselves were shooting back. Their hands weren't bound by some absurd policy against self defense.

If you make it a habit of being passive, people are going to think that looting the place whenever your jimmies are ruffled is the norm. They'll be in that building every month and this risks a greater diplomatic riff.
What's worse is even the locals will stop helping when they realize you aren't covering your own bases.

This is an embassy, not a playground. Put some razor wire round that biatch, electrify the fences, arm the guards and use every technological trick to your advantage.
Diplomacy can't happen if some idiot is taking a dump in your conference room whenever he finds something to be outraged about.

Who's t ...


He would prefer that we go back to the good old Republican way of doing it like putting a bunch of Marines in Beirut where they are shot at daily, not even allowing them to load their weapons, then doing nothing in response when a truck bomb kills a couple hundred of them.
 
2012-09-13 07:59:11 AM

CaptainBeer: WTF?!! I'm Irish and WE don't get this stupid even while drunk!


ah but these guys are sober stupid which is much more scary.
 
2012-09-13 07:59:14 AM

LawrencePerson: Barack Obama/Smart Diplomacy.jpeg


I know. Awesome news, right! Just try not to get too excited and shoot a load in your pants. Libtards might find recent semen stains as "unseemly" at a time like this.
 
2012-09-13 07:59:17 AM

Cheviot: We have armed Marines on embassy grounds, right? They have automatic rifles available, right?

Why are the protesters who've crossed onto embassy grounds even alive?


The protesters now are unarmed. If we started killing unarmed people now it would create a full on battle before our Marines got there. We would reallllllyyy look good shooting unarmed kids.
 
2012-09-13 07:59:19 AM

common sense is an oxymoron: In other news, the maker of the film that started it all has gone into hiding, his spokesman was chosen because he leads anti-Islamic protests at mosques and schools, and the cast claims that much of the dialogue was dubbed in without their knowledge or consent.

Link

Also...

"We went into this knowing this was probably going to happen"




Because the real problem here is too much free speech.
 
2012-09-13 07:59:52 AM

Mugato: Thunderpipes: Need to take the kid gloves off and leave them off. Pussy McHopeChange is just like Carter.

You douches need to get your talking points straight. Is Obama a war monger for sending over those drones and having bin Laden killed instead of captured or is he a pussy for not invading a few random countries in response to a riot?


He's a war monger when it's politically advantageous for the GOP, but he's a pussy when it's politically advantageous for the GOP.

It's really quite simple.
 
2012-09-13 08:00:53 AM

Skleenar: HotWingConspiracy: A lot of right wingers became experts on embassy security yesterday it seems.

"I don't understand why Obama didn't order the space marines to descend from our moon base to decimate the entire nation of Libya! This was common practice in the Reagan era! I weep for this nation."

I know, because this list of embassy attacks below didn't happen:

2002
June 14, Karachi, Pakistan: bomb explodes outside American consulate in Karachi, Pakistan, killing 12. Linked to al-Qaeda.

2004
Dec. 6, Jeddah, Saudi Arabia: terrorists storm the U.S. consulate, killing 5 consulate employees. 4 terrorists were killed by Saudi security.

2006
Sept. 13, Damascus, Syria: an attack by four gunman on the American embassy is foiled.

2007
Jan. 12, Athens, Greece: the U.S. embassy is fired on by an anti-tank missile causing damage but no injuries.

2008
Sept. 16, Yemen: a car bomb and a rocket strike the U.S. embassy in Yemen as staff arrived to work, killing 16 people, including 4 civilians. At least 25 suspected al-Qaeda militants are arrested for the attack.


Well yeah, but at least Bush sent a SEAL team to get bin Laden. WTF has Obama done?!
 
2012-09-13 08:01:10 AM

AverageAmericanGuy: Who benefits the most from an America that is outraged at Islamists?

My Christmas lights are tangled.


yeah all it takes is a couple of agent provocateurs and that stupid video.
typical Mossad false flag job.
 
2012-09-13 08:01:22 AM

HotWingConspiracy: ChuDogg: Whats funny is that these protests are coming from the salafists who we helped bring to power, its the moderates and liberals who should be the most pissed off at us.

You and Mitt seem to find the death of Americans funny for some reason. Why is that?


You seem to not be able to discuss anything without mentioning mitt romney. Well if we he does win i guess at least we'll be able to watch another round of BDS in the fark comments.
 
2012-09-13 08:02:09 AM

Beauf: Nofun: TV's Vinnie: You know what? F*CK IT! I'm not going to get worked up about a bunch of butthurt donkey-molesters in some craphole Islamist country anymore. Haters gonna hate. Period. Nothing we do short of blowing them up will effect them.

Just

blow

them

up!



An eye for an eye leaves the whole world blind. If we want the moral high ground, we must act like it.

No, it leaves the whole world one-eyed and I would prefer that my enemy share my lack of depth perception. That being said, we have to be smart about how we do it. GW's approach to ridding the world of terrorists (and that of most of the right wing "just blow 'em all up" crowd) was somewhat akin to ridding the world of starfish by cutting off their arms and throwing them back into the water. I prefer the well planned surgical strike on the people responsible.


Now here's what really interests me. What would have happened if we hadn't invaded Afghanistan or Iraq? What if Bush had just killed Bin Laden and gone after Al Qaeda? Seems like we would have save trillions of dollars and accomplished about the same thing as we have today.
 
2012-09-13 08:02:18 AM

Another Government Employee: This ain't pretty. I wonder how long it will take to finally spread to Tel Aviv and Jerusalem?


wat
 
2012-09-13 08:02:50 AM
The root cause of all this is CLEAN AIR.

If we did not use ethanol as an additive to our gasoline, to curb air pollution, instead of cancer causing MTBE, then the price of corn MIGHT be lower.
 
2012-09-13 08:03:50 AM

ChuDogg: HotWingConspiracy: ChuDogg: Whats funny is that these protests are coming from the salafists who we helped bring to power, its the moderates and liberals who should be the most pissed off at us.

You and Mitt seem to find the death of Americans funny for some reason. Why is that?

You seem to not be able to discuss anything without mentioning mitt romney. Well if we he does win i guess at least we'll be able to watch another round of BDS in the fark comments.


Just drawing a parallel between you and Mitt. But we can leave him out of it, why do you think dead Americans are funny?

/he's not going to win
 
2012-09-13 08:04:38 AM

Emracool the Aeons Hip: SlothB77: after 4 years of Obama they love us now. thanks liberals

Thanks to all the Anti-Muslim videos and sentiment Obama is spewing out, who could blame them?




Because the real problem here is too much free speech #4,375,127
 
2012-09-13 08:04:40 AM

HotWingConspiracy: Well yeah, but at least Bush sent a SEAL team to get bin Laden. WTF has Obama done?!


I know. He spends so much time on his RC airplane hobby, he doesn't have time to deal with terrorists.
 
2012-09-13 08:05:04 AM
Tamater

Romney's statement condemning Obama's response to this attack due any minute now.

Response like going to bed while the embassy is burning and the Ambassador is missing? Who could criticize such bold leadership?
 
2012-09-13 08:05:29 AM
farm9.staticflickr.com
 
2012-09-13 08:05:33 AM

jso2897: Sgt Stubby: nmemkha: While the "outrage" is most likely an excuse to vent anger at the US, the producers of the film were callously negligent. Free Speech is a right, but with every right comes a responsibility. They knew there would be violence at the release of the film and yet they released it anyway.


That's a great indictment against the insanity and evil of islam. It also sums up the left's apologetic/symbiotic relationship with the global jihad quite succinctly.

Good job!

Man, i don't know. Do you really think it's about this video? At first, I kind of thought it was, but this is looking more and more concerted and coordinated with each passing day. Libya and yemen, in particular, have AlQaeda's fingerprints all over them. The video is an embarrassment to any adult, but I'm starting to doubt that it is really the cause of all this.


This. I don't think the date of these riots and attacks is a coincidence. If Al Qaeda is behind it, they are using the video as a way of manipulating the people into anger. It also provides cover to mask the true cause of these likely coordinated attacks. People in power have always used angry fundamentalists as their useful idiots, getting them all riled up and setting them loose. (See the Tea Party during the Health Care town halls back in 2009.)

Perhaps they are trying to make Obama look bad in retaliation for the death of Bin Ladin among other things. They might want to return to the days when Bush pretty much ignored them and instead destabilized Iraq for them. I might be wrong about that, but I'm pretty sure all this is coordinated.
 
2012-09-13 08:06:38 AM
The trolls are really coming out of the woodwork here.
 
2012-09-13 08:06:56 AM
Islam is a cancer
 
2012-09-13 08:08:35 AM

Joe Six-Keg: cman: Joe Six-Keg: duckfarkit: Sweet baby Jesus. The reverb from the Arab Spring. I so want Obama to handle this well; otherwise this is ammo for the rtards & a recipe for disaster

Problem is, no matter how the President handles it, it's ammo for the Tea Party/Republicans/Neocons. Pathetic that such things are politicized so freaking badly, and that there are some people who are cheering for the deaths of Americans just to make "the other side" look bad.

Do you realize the irony in your post?

I think it would be more ironic if we were all made of iron.

/yes, yes I do.


I'm 40% Iron.
*clank* *clank*
 
2012-09-13 08:08:38 AM
AverageAmericanGuy
(favorite: Blamed "right" and "dirty jews" for Family Research Council shooting & embassy attacks)

Who benefits the most from an America that is outraged at Islamists?

My Christmas lights are tangled.

You're cute. You see conspiracies everywhere
 
2012-09-13 08:08:50 AM

soporific: Perhaps they are trying to make Obama look bad in retaliation for the death of Bin Ladin among other things. They might want to return to the days when Bush pretty much ignored them and instead destabilized Iraq for them. I might be wrong about that, but I'm pretty sure all this is coordinated.


Not to get all tinfoil-y on you. But something about the provenance of the movie that allegedly sparked all this violence is pretty fishy.
 
2012-09-13 08:09:29 AM

HotWingConspiracy: Another Government Employee: This ain't pretty. I wonder how long it will take to finally spread to Tel Aviv and Jerusalem?

wat


Look at it like a Colorado Wildfire. All the military actions have been attempts to cut fire lines to keep it from spreading. At this point, all the unrest completely surrounds Israel. Sooner or later, the Muslim majority there WILL join in.
 
2012-09-13 08:10:56 AM

lucksi: So, how about arresting the one who made the film and charge him with murder and inflicting riots?

If you can charge a fleeing criminal with murder when police shoot some bystanders, you can charge the religious lunatic who made the movie as well.


Words should beget more words, not inappropriate actions. Shame on you for trying to limit others' free speech!
 
2012-09-13 08:11:31 AM

Joe Blowme: Islam Religion is a cancer


FTFY
 
2012-09-13 08:11:39 AM
Good lord people....what the fark? I see post after post blaming the film maker for this, and wanting to throw him to the angry crowd and such..........WTF? So we're groveling at the feet of Islam now, and telling them that freedom of speech means nothing to us? Fark them, and fark you "apologists" too. Yes, the guy who made the video is an idiot. Being an idiot is not illegal, storming a foreign embassy is illegal. Insinuating that the film maker is somehow responsible for people rioting and killing people is pretty hilariously close to blaming a rape victim for wearing a revealing dress. Yes, the video was provocative. That is not illegal, killing people is illegal, even over there. There is only one group at fault here, and that is the rioters. If you can't deal with a random Youtube video without rioting, then you are a farking bunch of idiots deserving of zero respect. Pick literally anything on the planet and you can probably find a youtube video ridiculing it. If you find something that hasn't been ridiculed yet, let me know, and I'll make one myself. Islam shouldn't be the only thing on the planet you're not allowed to ridicule. Fark them.
 
2012-09-13 08:11:59 AM

nmemkha: LL316: nmemkha: While the "outrage" is most likely an excuse to vent anger at the US, they producers of the film were callously negligent. Free Speech is a right, but with every right comes a responsibility. They knew there would be violence at the release of the film and yet they released it anyway. Unfortunately, its not their loved ones who are dying, but innocent people caught up in an unnecessary firestorm.

Totally agree with this, but don't go putting the fault there. The fault lies with the animals who react this way over a movie, not the movie maker himself. It's the rapist, not the low cut dress that commits the bad act.

The film was purposely made to antagonize. Demonstrating how I raped your lover in front of you is bound to elicit a negative reaction right? Its not my fault you got angry and assaulted me, right?


Ok, so you make that demonstration and I go and kill someone at the McDonalds up the street. Your fault, right?
 
2012-09-13 08:12:25 AM

Father_Jack: We don't know what is going on there, and the marines guarding the gates do. If they think they'll need to kill people to protect themselves, im sure they will. Historically speaking, using deadly force against protestors, even unruly rioting ones, has often resulted in things escalating and getting much worse than if the riot had just occurred and blown itself out. As such its employed as a very last resort. Neither you nor I can evaluate whats going on from our comfy computers on different continents. But since we've not heard that deadly force has been used, I suppose we can assume it hasn't been because it doesn't need to be. Im sure the marines know what theyre doing, don't you? Or are you calling our marines cowards?


Those Marines have orders. They have very specific circumstances under which they may use deadly force. Without adequate warning and a relaxation of the rules of engagement, it is very possible that they might not be able to effectively defend an embassy because by they time they realize what is going on, they've been overwhelmed already. That's how the Iranian hostage crisis unfolded.
 
2012-09-13 08:12:43 AM

Man On Pink Corner: Bontesla: You can't incite violence in a way that poses a legitimate and timely threat

You have failed to demonstrate how insulting someone's deity poses a "threat," much less a "legitimate and timely" one.


I didn't fail to mention it. I intentionally excluded it because it wasn't my argument.
 
2012-09-13 08:12:43 AM

Another Government Employee: HotWingConspiracy: Another Government Employee: This ain't pretty. I wonder how long it will take to finally spread to Tel Aviv and Jerusalem?

wat

Look at it like a Colorado Wildfire. All the military actions have been attempts to cut fire lines to keep it from spreading. At this point, all the unrest completely surrounds Israel. Sooner or later, the Muslim majority there WILL join in.


No.
 
2012-09-13 08:13:20 AM
So this is how WWIII starts...over a silly movie.

//Seems strangely appropriate.
 
2012-09-13 08:14:11 AM
Yeman now. Fantastic. I stand solidly behind the President but I gotta say....fark it, let it burn.

/ what's that? World wide gas and oil prices would sky rocket and launch another worldwide depression if the Mid-East isn't stabilized? Grrrrrrr.... Foreign policy is hard. Which is why Mittens shoot first, aim later policy is the most dangerous thing we have heard from anyone or anywhere this entire week.
 
2012-09-13 08:14:18 AM

HotWingConspiracy: ChuDogg: HotWingConspiracy: ChuDogg: Whats funny is that these protests are coming from the salafists who we helped bring to power, its the moderates and liberals who should be the most pissed off at us.

You and Mitt seem to find the death of Americans funny for some reason. Why is that?

You seem to not be able to discuss anything without mentioning mitt romney. Well if we he does win i guess at least we'll be able to watch another round of BDS in the fark comments.

Just drawing a parallel between you and Mitt. But we can leave him out of it, why do you think dead Americans are funny?

/he's not going to win


Please highlight where i said that the death of americans is funny?

Oh wait you cant, because you're a bloviating douchebag trying to change the subject

/dont care
 
2012-09-13 08:15:42 AM
This is gonna be awesome. Nobody, and I mean NO BODY loves drone-striking brown people like Barak "The Brown Bomber" Obama. The skies will be thick with predators soon.
 
2012-09-13 08:15:45 AM

BullBearMS: Hmmm... There was an interesting theory being discussed on Slashdot the other day.

whenever the UN's food price index, which measures the monthly change in the price of a basket of food commodities, climbs above 210, the conditions ripen for social unrest around the world.

(Said the researchers behind the study) "on December 13, 2010, we submitted a government report analyzing the repercussions of the global financial crises, and directly identifying the risk of social unrest and political instability due to food prices." Four days later, Mohamed Bouazizi set himself on fire as an act of protest in Tunisia.

Today, the food price index is hovering around 213, where it has stayed for months-just beyond the tip of the identified threshold.


That's an entirely new and interesting way to think about these events. I think it merits some thought. Thanks for adding it to the comments.
 
2012-09-13 08:16:02 AM

Slaxl: Or... and just throwing this out there, the creator used a fake name because he knew he'd be killed otherwise, people on the street haven't seen it, they just heard someone say "Americans insulted Mohammed, let's go storm their embassy", because it's just that easy.


But we didn't insult the Big Mo. The film said he was a kiddy molester, womanizer and ruthless killer. He was. He had a 6 year old wife. Among lots of other wives, and he killed countless people without mercy. The Koran explicitly states this. (It also says he was born without a foreskin!) So why are they mad about someone confiming their beliefs?
 
2012-09-13 08:16:24 AM
Scarborough tearing Romney a new asshole on morning Joe right now.
 
2012-09-13 08:16:24 AM
Of course, none of this Yemeni anger has anything to do with the fact that the U.S. has been involved in a low-level war there for years.

http://www.wired.com/dangerroom/2012/09/yemen-drone-war/

29 Dead in 8 Days as U.S. Puts Yemen Drone War in Overdrive

29 dead in a little over a week. Nearly 200 gone this year. The White House is stepping up its campaign of drone attacks in Yemen, with four strikes in eight days. And not even the slaying of 10 civilians over the weekend seems to have slowed the pace in the United States' secretive, undeclared war.

TOTALLY unrelated, amirite? I'm sure Yemenis celebrate when they see a foreign government's attack drones in their skies, and they're probably unaffected when those drones bomb the shiat out of their neighbours.

http://www.wired.com/dangerroom/2012/06/yemen-war/all/

After years of sending drones and commandos into Pakistan, Defense Secretary Leon Panetta last week finally admitted the obvious: The US is "fighting a war" there. But American robots and special forces aren't just targeting militants in Pakistan. They're doing the same - with increasing frequency and increasing lethality - in Yemen. The latest drone attack happened early Wednesday in the Yemeni town of Azzan, killing nine people. It's the 23rd strike in Yemen so far this year, according to the Long War Journal. In Pakistan, there have been only 22.

They can't actually defend themsleves against drone attacks, so this is probably the only way they can voice displeasure, by trashing the embassy. Because actions have consequences.
 
2012-09-13 08:16:31 AM
4.bp.blogspot.com
 
2012-09-13 08:16:34 AM

Waxing_Chewbacca: Yeman now. Fantastic. I stand solidly behind the President but I gotta say....fark it, let it burn.

/ what's that? World wide gas and oil prices would sky rocket and launch another worldwide depression if the Mid-East isn't stabilized? Grrrrrrr.... Foreign policy is hard. Which is why Mittens shoot first, aim later policy is the most dangerous thing we have heard from anyone or anywhere this entire week.


Good dhimmi
 
2012-09-13 08:16:55 AM

Nofun: The trolls are really coming out of the woodwork here.


Are you kidding? This is like Christmas morn for these asshats.
 
2012-09-13 08:17:00 AM

Nofun: The trolls are really coming out of the woodwork here.


Its pathetic how many responses they have gotten too. Guess fark as whole has become the short bus of the internet.
 
2012-09-13 08:17:39 AM

Krymson Tyde: He's a war monger when it's politically advantageous for the GOP, but he's a pussy when it's politically advantageous for the GOP.

It's really quite simple.


Kind of like how Reagan was an addled, doddering old simpleton when it was politically advantageous to the Democrats, and some sort of scheming evil genius when it suited them. Even the well-know right-wing comedy show Saturday Night Live noted that interesting dichotomy

BTW, I could substitute "Dubya" for "Reagan" in that sentence and it would mostly fit, except for the "old" part.
 
2012-09-13 08:18:16 AM

nmemkha: While the "outrage" is most likely an excuse to vent anger at the US, they producers of the film were callously negligent. Free Speech is a right, but with every right comes a responsibility. They knew there would be violence at the release of the film and yet they released it anyway. Unfortunately, its not their loved ones who are dying, but innocent people caught up in an unnecessary firestorm.


People who think like this are cowards who want to give away their rights, and everyone else's rights, to placate crazy people in a misguided attempt to feel a little safer. Please keep these kinds of cheap and cowardly opinions to yourself. You make the rest of us look weak.

The people who are responsible for these kinds of attacks don't value anyone's rights or beliefs but their own and want to kill anyone who disagrees with them. It's my right, as a human being, to believe, say, and mock whatever I want. When you say "This is so-and-so's fault for not being too scared to voice their opinion" then you're trying to take away the rights of that person to express themselves. This is not the film makers fault, the only fault lies with the people who are so bigoted and filled with hate that they try to kill anyone who disagrees with them or upsets them.

Stop trying to belittle my rights as a human being with your cowardly fear inspired thoughts. I bet the people responsible for the attacks want everyone in the world to think like you, to be too scared to speak out or stand up for yourself.
 
2012-09-13 08:18:23 AM

jakomo002: Of course, none of this Yemeni anger has anything to do with the fact that the U.S. has been involved in a low-level war there for years.

http://www.wired.com/dangerroom/2012/09/yemen-drone-war/

29 Dead in 8 Days as U.S. Puts Yemen Drone War in Overdrive

29 dead in a little over a week. Nearly 200 gone this year. The White House is stepping up its campaign of drone attacks in Yemen, with four strikes in eight days. And not even the slaying of 10 civilians over the weekend seems to have slowed the pace in the United States' secretive, undeclared war.

TOTALLY unrelated, amirite? I'm sure Yemenis celebrate when they see a foreign government's attack drones in their skies, and they're probably unaffected when those drones bomb the shiat out of their neighbours.

http://www.wired.com/dangerroom/2012/06/yemen-war/all/

After years of sending drones and commandos into Pakistan, Defense Secretary Leon Panetta last week finally admitted the obvious: The US is "fighting a war" there. But American robots and special forces aren't just targeting militants in Pakistan. They're doing the same - with increasing frequency and increasing lethality - in Yemen. The latest drone attack happened early Wednesday in the Yemeni town of Azzan, killing nine people. It's the 23rd strike in Yemen so far this year, according to the Long War Journal. In Pakistan, there have been only 22.

They can't actually defend themsleves against drone attacks, so this is probably the only way they can voice displeasure, by trashing the embassy. Because actions have consequences.


Oh the poor islamic psychos, why can we just let them kill gays and beat their women in peace right?
 
2012-09-13 08:18:41 AM

way south: So instead of blaming it on bad foreign policy or intolerant people who think storming embassies is a good idea, so far Fark has blamed it on:

1. The Jews.
2. Freedom of speech in the US.
3. An amateur film maker.
4. Israel (The Jews).
5. The CIA.
6. Drugs.
7. The Arab Spring.
8. Mitt Romney.


...I can see there won't be much progress in this thread.


so... are you like new around these parts???
 
2012-09-13 08:19:25 AM
From that same Wired article from Sept 5 2012:

On Sunday, at least 10 civilians were not so fortunate. They were killed in a strike gone awry near the town of Rada'a in al-Baitha province. An aircraft - believed to be an American drone - fired a pair of missiles at a vehicle supposedly carrying a local AQAP leader. One of the missiles instead hit a nearby minibus.  A 10-year-old girl and her mother were among the dead. "Families attempted to carry the victims' corpses to the capital, Sana'a, to lay them in front of the residence of newly elected President Abdurabu Hadi, but were sent back by local security forces," according to CNN.

Again, totally unrelated, right? The Yemenis are just mindless Muslim killbots.
 
2012-09-13 08:19:35 AM

WhiskeyBender: The protesters now are unarmed. If we started killing unarmed people now it would create a full on battle before our Marines got there.


A mob of people are never 'unarmed' even if all they have are rocks.

Sgt Stubby: /say, I wonder how islam would react if acid was routinely thrown in the faces of muslim women in the US by the Christian population? Think it would be worse than the cartoon riots?


Nah, that's just proper treatment of women. *barf* More seriously - it'd piss the moderates off and we'd get a different class of people doing the rioting. The extremists would try to use it to motivate the moderates, but while the moderates would be pissed off, the extremists would still come off as falsely outraged.
 
2012-09-13 08:20:35 AM

poe_zlaw: I wonder how many low-budget lame ass movies of been made about America and Christianity in the middle east How many embassies got stormed by peaceloving Americans in the United States?


Good point. Much of the middle east HATE Westerners and are very blatant about the fact.
Do we go around storming their embassies? Do we even say "screw you - solve your own
damn problems"? Nope and nope. They hate us and we accept that as their right to do so.

On the flip side, one nutjob, who is too much of a coward to even use his real name, makes
a really, really bad movie - that is also incredibly offensive - and they take it out on folks
who had absolutely nothing to do with its production or distribution, folks whose only purpose
in being in their country in the first place is to help foster cooperation and diplomatic ties.

The stupid. It burns.
 
2012-09-13 08:21:22 AM

somedude210: poe_zlaw: I wonder how many low-budget lame ass movies of been made about America and Christianity in the middle east How many embassies got stormed by peaceloving Americans in the United States?

I'm gonna assume none, since, you know, there's no proof that they exist.

This, however, was a deliberate attempt to show it to the Muslim world in order to piss them right the fark off.

/wouldn't at all be surprised if this traced back to Team Romney


Or the Koch brothers. They certainly have the funds to buy themselves a few soldiers of fortune.
 
2012-09-13 08:21:29 AM

jakomo002: Of course, none of this Yemeni anger has anything to do with the fact that the U.S. has been involved in a low-level war there for years.

http://www.wired.com/dangerroom/2012/09/yemen-drone-war/

29 Dead in 8 Days as U.S. Puts Yemen Drone War in Overdrive

29 dead in a little over a week. Nearly 200 gone this year. The White House is stepping up its campaign of drone attacks in Yemen, with four strikes in eight days. And not even the slaying of 10 civilians over the weekend seems to have slowed the pace in the United States' secretive, undeclared war.

TOTALLY unrelated, amirite? I'm sure Yemenis celebrate when they see a foreign government's attack drones in their skies, and they're probably unaffected when those drones bomb the shiat out of their neighbours.

http://www.wired.com/dangerroom/2012/06/yemen-war/all/

After years of sending drones and commandos into Pakistan, Defense Secretary Leon Panetta last week finally admitted the obvious: The US is "fighting a war" there. But American robots and special forces aren't just targeting militants in Pakistan. They're doing the same - with increasing frequency and increasing lethality - in Yemen. The latest drone attack happened early Wednesday in the Yemeni town of Azzan, killing nine people. It's the 23rd strike in Yemen so far this year, according to the Long War Journal. In Pakistan, there have been only 22.

They can't actually defend themsleves against drone attacks, so this is probably the only way they can voice displeasure, by trashing the embassy. Because actions have consequences.


Um.... They can by not being the French Riveria of Islamic Extremism. President Bush would have invaded. Think that's better or you on the other side of the spectrum where doing nothing and allowing clear threats to this nation plot, plan and attack US interests? President Obama's drone program has been very effective. Don't want drones in your country? Join the world community and drag your sorry ass out of the 7th century!
 
2012-09-13 08:21:34 AM

AndreMA: Joe Blowme: Islam Religion extremism is a cancer

FTFY


if you're going to fix things for people, you might want to try being correct
 
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2012-09-13 08:21:36 AM

ilambiquated: Yemen is a rough place and has been on the verge of civil war since the beginning of the Arab Spring. It was a sort-of democracy before that. And before that it was two countries and one conquered the other one.

I would expect the American embassy to be pretty heavily guarded. Hope so.

Also Yemen is a beautiful country with an amazing cultural heritage, and Yemen/Ethiopia is one of the world's oldest centers of civilization. The capital, Sana'a, is one of the world's most beautiful cities.

[www.yemen.jp image 800x600]

GIS to see more.


must of taken A LOT of elmers glue to build a sand castle that big. what do they do when it rains?
 
2012-09-13 08:21:46 AM

ekdikeo4

>>> fusillade762: Why does the Islamic world seem to susceptible to trolling?
>>> Can we turn that to our advantage?

oh, the Christians are too.. Just ask Rushdie.

You're blaming "Christians" for the fact that Rushdie had to go into hiding because islam called for his murder?

If your post is sarcasm, you failed at clarity. If your post is serious, you're an epic scale r-tard.
 
2012-09-13 08:22:37 AM

digitalrain: poe_zlaw: I wonder how many low-budget lame ass movies of been made about America and Christianity in the middle east How many embassies got stormed by peaceloving Americans in the United States?

Good point. Much of the middle east HATE Westerners and are very blatant about the fact.
Do we go around storming their embassies? Do we even say "screw you - solve your own
damn problems"? Nope and nope. They hate us and we accept that as their right to do so.

On the flip side, one nutjob, who is too much of a coward to even use his real name, makes
a really, really bad movie - that is also incredibly offensive - and they take it out on folks
who had absolutely nothing to do with its production or distribution, folks whose only purpose
in being in their country in the first place is to help foster cooperation and diplomatic ties.

The stupid. It burns is islam.

FTFY
 
2012-09-13 08:22:39 AM

LL316: nmemkha: While the "outrage" is most likely an excuse to vent anger at the US, they producers of the film were callously negligent. Free Speech is a right, but with every right comes a responsibility. They knew there would be violence at the release of the film and yet they released it anyway. Unfortunately, its not their loved ones who are dying, but innocent people caught up in an unnecessary firestorm.

Totally agree with this, but don't go putting the fault there. The fault lies with the animals who react this way over a movie, not the movie maker himself. It's the rapist, not the low cut dress that commits the bad act.


picard.jpg

Are you farking shiatting me?! I heard this argument yesterday and I still can't farking believe it. When a certain event causes a certain reaction in a populace with 100% repeating rate, if you do that event, you know damn well that populace is going to react as they do when they get word of it unless you live under a farking rock.

There's already a link in this thread where they SAID they knew what I said was true, and that is just willful negligence. They are as guilty for the deaths of the victims as the rioters themselves.

It's not a poor lady getting raped because she wore a low cut dress, it's a lady wearing a low cut dress while walking down an alley famous for rape attacks, with 'come and get it' signs taped on her tits and ass.
 
2012-09-13 08:22:43 AM
 
2012-09-13 08:22:57 AM

ChuDogg: HotWingConspiracy: ChuDogg: HotWingConspiracy: ChuDogg: Whats funny is that these protests are coming from the salafists who we helped bring to power, its the moderates and liberals who should be the most pissed off at us.

You and Mitt seem to find the death of Americans funny for some reason. Why is that?

You seem to not be able to discuss anything without mentioning mitt romney. Well if we he does win i guess at least we'll be able to watch another round of BDS in the fark comments.

Just drawing a parallel between you and Mitt. But we can leave him out of it, why do you think dead Americans are funny?

/he's not going to win

Please highlight where i said that the death of americans is funny?

Oh wait you cant, because you're a bloviating douchebag trying to change the subject

/dont care


So you just find the conditions for getting American's killed funny? You used the word, not me.
 
2012-09-13 08:23:26 AM

Void_Beavis: Bontesla: fusillade762: Why does the Islamic world seem to susceptible to trolling? Can we turn that to our advantage?

I've been raising the same questions in regards to teatards, Republicans, and Fox News viewers. Why don't we start manipulating their insanity to achieve goals we want.

Um I think that's already being done. Problem is, rich whitey plantation owners are at the wheel.


Then you're saying either it hasn't been done or that I'm a rich whitey?

Because I specifically said we should start :)
 
2012-09-13 08:24:12 AM
<b><a href="http://www.fark.com/comments/7324714/79348033#c79348033" target="_blank">Joe Blowme</a>:</b> <i>Waxing_Chewbacca: Yeman now. Fantastic. I stand solidly behind the President but I gotta say....fark it, let it burn.

/ what's that? World wide gas and oil prices would sky rocket and launch another worldwide depression if the Mid-East isn't stabilized? Grrrrrrr.... Foreign policy is hard. Which is why Mittens shoot first, aim later policy is the most dangerous thing we have heard from anyone or anywhere this entire week.

Good dhimmi</i>

Good dhimmi to you!

/ ?
 
2012-09-13 08:24:19 AM

SuperT: ya know, I say just one of these shiat bird dirt holes we should just pick to treat like the romans would. Just say "I'm tired of putting up with your retarded horse shiat, you either come on board, be americans and be cool or we go full 13 legion on your ass". No occupation, just kill the opposition and get on with your day. Remind them that we treat these little pissant extremist with kid gloves because we don't want to hurt the innocent people they hide amoung.


I think I'm missing something here. Are you stating that we should demand that people in Libya and Yemen be and act as Americans?
 
2012-09-13 08:24:58 AM
The Arabs are springing.
 
2012-09-13 08:25:18 AM

Lunaville: somedude210: poe_zlaw: I wonder how many low-budget lame ass movies of been made about America and Christianity in the middle east How many embassies got stormed by peaceloving Americans in the United States?

I'm gonna assume none, since, you know, there's no proof that they exist.

This, however, was a deliberate attempt to show it to the Muslim world in order to piss them right the fark off.

/wouldn't at all be surprised if this traced back to Team Romney

Or the Koch brothers. They certainly have the funds to buy themselves a few soldiers of fortune.


www.lab1663.net
 
2012-09-13 08:25:35 AM

TheKiwiBird: LL316: nmemkha: While the "outrage" is most likely an excuse to vent anger at the US, they producers of the film were callously negligent. Free Speech is a right, but with every right comes a responsibility. They knew there would be violence at the release of the film and yet they released it anyway. Unfortunately, its not their loved ones who are dying, but innocent people caught up in an unnecessary firestorm.

Totally agree with this, but don't go putting the fault there. The fault lies with the animals who react this way over a movie, not the movie maker himself. It's the rapist, not the low cut dress that commits the bad act.

picard.jpg

Are you farking shiatting me?! I heard this argument yesterday and I still can't farking believe it. When a certain event causes a certain reaction in a populace with 100% repeating rate, if you do that event, you know damn well that populace is going to react as they do when they get word of it unless you live under a farking rock.

There's already a link in this thread where they SAID they knew what I said was true, and that is just willful negligence. They are as guilty for the deaths of the victims as the rioters themselves.

It's not a poor lady getting raped because she wore a low cut dress, it's a lady wearing a low cut dress while walking down an alley famous for rape attacks, with 'come and get it' signs taped on her tits and ass.


And if they had attacked the person responsible for the film, you might have an argument. But they didn't, so you don't.
 
2012-09-13 08:26:20 AM
Enough fooling around guys - has anyone heard from Chandler Bing?
 
2012-09-13 08:26:39 AM

wippit: I like your Muhammad.
I do not like your Muslims
Your Muslims are so unlike your Muhammad.


Well, in this case they were like their Muhammad...
 
2012-09-13 08:26:58 AM

Waxing_Chewbacca: Don't want drones in your country? Join the world community and drag your sorry ass out of t ...


The fact that the strongest countries in the world can say inane shiat like that with impunity is a part of the problem.

Few knowledgable people deny that there are idiots everywhere. Why do you keep denying that your leaders aren't idiots, too? You understand that the fact that all of you are dirt-eating, cousin-farking hicks is exactly the problem?
 
2012-09-13 08:27:03 AM
My geopolitical skills are not what they once were so I apologize in advance......

What do we do with the situation as it stands today?
 
2012-09-13 08:27:06 AM

dittybopper: Kind of like how Reagan was an addled, doddering old simpleton when it was politically advantageous to the Democrats


like when he was asleep all during the Iran-Contra thing? That was really advantageous for the Democrats huh?
 
2012-09-13 08:27:36 AM

Lunaville: SuperT: ya know, I say just one of these shiat bird dirt holes we should just pick to treat like the romans would. Just say "I'm tired of putting up with your retarded horse shiat, you either come on board, be americans and be cool or we go full 13 legion on your ass". No occupation, just kill the opposition and get on with your day. Remind them that we treat these little pissant extremist with kid gloves because we don't want to hurt the innocent people they hide amoung.

I think I'm missing something here. Are you stating that we should demand that people in Libya and Yemen be and act as Americans?


I'd settle for civilized human beings
 
2012-09-13 08:27:54 AM

soporific: jso2897: Sgt Stubby: nmemkha: While the "outrage" is most likely an excuse to vent anger at the US, the producers of the film were callously negligent. Free Speech is a right, but with every right comes a responsibility. They knew there would be violence at the release of the film and yet they released it anyway.


That's a great indictment against the insanity and evil of islam. It also sums up the left's apologetic/symbiotic relationship with the global jihad quite succinctly.

Good job!

Man, i don't know. Do you really think it's about this video? At first, I kind of thought it was, but this is looking more and more concerted and coordinated with each passing day. Libya and yemen, in particular, have AlQaeda's fingerprints all over them. The video is an embarrassment to any adult, but I'm starting to doubt that it is really the cause of all this.

This. I don't think the date of these riots and attacks is a coincidence. If Al Qaeda is behind it, they are using the video as a way of manipulating the people into anger. It also provides cover to mask the true cause of these likely coordinated attacks. People in power have always used angry fundamentalists as their useful idiots, getting them all riled up and setting them loose. (See the Tea Party during the Health Care town halls back in 2009.)

Perhaps they are trying to make Obama look bad in retaliation for the death of Bin Ladin among other things. They might want to return to the days when Bush pretty much ignored them and instead destabilized Iraq for them. I might be wrong about that, but I'm pretty sure all this is coordinated.


Well, if I was AlQaeda, the first thing I would want to do is replace Obama with Romney - Romney has promised to build his foreign policy around former Bush people. I imagine AlQaeda longs for the good ol' days of George Bush.
 
2012-09-13 08:28:14 AM

LL316: TheKiwiBird: LL316: nmemkha: While the "outrage" is most likely an excuse to vent anger at the US, they producers of the film were callously negligent. Free Speech is a right, but with every right comes a responsibility. They knew there would be violence at the release of the film and yet they released it anyway. Unfortunately, its not their loved ones who are dying, but innocent people caught up in an unnecessary firestorm.

Totally agree with this, but don't go putting the fault there. The fault lies with the animals who react this way over a movie, not the movie maker himself. It's the rapist, not the low cut dress that commits the bad act.

picard.jpg

Are you farking shiatting me?! I heard this argument yesterday and I still can't farking believe it. When a certain event causes a certain reaction in a populace with 100% repeating rate, if you do that event, you know damn well that populace is going to react as they do when they get word of it unless you live under a farking rock.

There's already a link in this thread where they SAID they knew what I said was true, and that is just willful negligence. They are as guilty for the deaths of the victims as the rioters themselves.

It's not a poor lady getting raped because she wore a low cut dress, it's a lady wearing a low cut dress while walking down an alley famous for rape attacks, with 'come and get it' signs taped on her tits and ass.

And if they had attacked the person responsible for the film, you might have an argument. But they didn't, so you don't.


He's in hiding, because he knows what he did was wrong, and he's afraid that they will get him. I say we hunt him down, pull him out of hiding, and convict him.
 
2012-09-13 08:29:16 AM

wippit: Mr. Shabooboo: I'm so ticked off about the paper cut I got that I wanna storm the Canadian Embassy because the tree
they made the paper from probably came from Canada.. (That was sarcasm people, I ♥ Canada)

Oh yeah?

I saw this controversial film that two idiots in the US made about Canada. That say it was aboot free speech, but I could see the hate in their depiction of flapping heads and crappy WW2-technology in their army. I'm getting ready right now to go storm the US embassy, eh? Fookin hosers!

/fart
/AAAAAAhahahahahaha


And there's the difference folks... 2 idiots made a film ripping on Canada and the Canadians laugh and ignore it and see it for what it is - trolling. An idiot makes a film ripping on Islam and what do you get? a bunch of terrorist thugs who can't think logically and just proved the film's point of Islam's idiocy - kill everyone and everything from the country that the film came out of even tho only one person made this obscure film. Seriously this tiny film no one would have ever seen until they started their acts of violence - they just PROMOTED IT which is beyond stupid on their part. It's seriously like a bunch of brainless monkeys over there. It's time we just nuked the whole middle east and get it over with.
 
2012-09-13 08:29:42 AM

Hobodeluxe: dittybopper: Kind of like how Reagan was an addled, doddering old simpleton when it was politically advantageous to the Democrats

like when he was asleep all during the Iran-Contra thing? That was really advantageous for the Democrats huh?


You didn't read the next sentence, or follow that link, did you?
 
2012-09-13 08:30:08 AM

TheKiwiBird: LL316: TheKiwiBird: LL316: nmemkha: While the "outrage" is most likely an excuse to vent anger at the US, they producers of the film were callously negligent. Free Speech is a right, but with every right comes a responsibility. They knew there would be violence at the release of the film and yet they released it anyway. Unfortunately, its not their loved ones who are dying, but innocent people caught up in an unnecessary firestorm.

Totally agree with this, but don't go putting the fault there. The fault lies with the animals who react this way over a movie, not the movie maker himself. It's the rapist, not the low cut dress that commits the bad act.

picard.jpg

Are you farking shiatting me?! I heard this argument yesterday and I still can't farking believe it. When a certain event causes a certain reaction in a populace with 100% repeating rate, if you do that event, you know damn well that populace is going to react as they do when they get word of it unless you live under a farking rock.

There's already a link in this thread where they SAID they knew what I said was true, and that is just willful negligence. They are as guilty for the deaths of the victims as the rioters themselves.

It's not a poor lady getting raped because she wore a low cut dress, it's a lady wearing a low cut dress while walking down an alley famous for rape attacks, with 'come and get it' signs taped on her tits and ass.

And if they had attacked the person responsible for the film, you might have an argument. But they didn't, so you don't.

He's in hiding, because he knows what he did was wrong, and he's afraid that they will get him. I say we hunt him down, pull him out of hiding, and convict him.


Of what? free speech?
 
2012-09-13 08:30:35 AM

Joe Blowme: Oh the poor islamic psychos, why can we just let them kill gays and beat their women in peace right?


No, but if you constantly kill innocent people in your "stability exercises", they might just band together and try to get you back. Like, say, storming an embassy. Or flying planes into your buildings.

It's human nature to try to get revenge after you're wronged, which is what this is. Predictable even, for anyone who knows what the USA hasd been doing in Yemen to Yemenis.

None of this has to do with "Islamic psychos", it's mostly very very angry citizens of the countries where you've farked the populace over by decades of support of dictators (think Mubarak). The Arab Spring was good, but do you honestly believe that people are just going to forget the last 40 years and suddenly start waving American flags?
 
2012-09-13 08:30:47 AM

robohobo: There's a very nice muslim family who lives down the street from me. Suuuuper hot daughter. Anyhow, I ran into the dad at the grocery store, and he's very face-palmy at the moment. His wife makes an awesome chicken/lamb rice dish, that kills at our barbecue parties

/except not literally, no bombs at our barbecues


Except for Mrs. Pananini's kidney bean jell-o salad,right?

2.bp.blogspot.com
 
2012-09-13 08:31:11 AM

Coming on a Bicycle: Yeah and skimpy dresses are purposely worn to arouse.


So arousal=rape in your book, or where you being sarcastic? So hard to tell with the fonts looking so similar.
 
2012-09-13 08:31:13 AM
Apologized yet?
 
2012-09-13 08:31:23 AM

TheKiwiBird: He's in hiding, because he knows what he did was wrong


Free speech is wrong? Then I don't want to be right.
 
2012-09-13 08:31:30 AM

bakarocket: Waxing_Chewbacca: Don't want drones in your country? Join the world community and drag your sorry ass out of t ...

The fact that the strongest countries in the world can say inane shiat like that with impunity is a part of the problem.

Few knowledgable people deny that there are idiots everywhere. Why do you keep denying that your leaders aren't idiots, too? You understand that the fact that all of you are dirt-eating, cousin-farking hicks is exactly the problem?


You truncated my statement to fit your narrative. I'm supporting the President and I was responding to a statement that Yeman has reason to riot due to the drone strikes. They do not. We have interests to protect and they are a nation willing to be a Disney Resort for our most dreaded enemies. Your reply cut my statement down to a piece of one sentence. Don't be so dishonest in order to make your point.
 
2012-09-13 08:31:40 AM

TheKiwiBird: LL316: TheKiwiBird: LL316: nmemkha: While the "outrage" is most likely an excuse to vent anger at the US, they producers of the film were callously negligent. Free Speech is a right, but with every right comes a responsibility. They knew there would be violence at the release of the film and yet they released it anyway. Unfortunately, its not their loved ones who are dying, but innocent people caught up in an unnecessary firestorm.

Totally agree with this, but don't go putting the fault there. The fault lies with the animals who react this way over a movie, not the movie maker himself. It's the rapist, not the low cut dress that commits the bad act.

picard.jpg

Are you farking shiatting me?! I heard this argument yesterday and I still can't farking believe it. When a certain event causes a certain reaction in a populace with 100% repeating rate, if you do that event, you know damn well that populace is going to react as they do when they get word of it unless you live under a farking rock.

There's already a link in this thread where they SAID they knew what I said was true, and that is just willful negligence. They are as guilty for the deaths of the victims as the rioters themselves.

It's not a poor lady getting raped because she wore a low cut dress, it's a lady wearing a low cut dress while walking down an alley famous for rape attacks, with 'come and get it' signs taped on her tits and ass.

And if they had attacked the person responsible for the film, you might have an argument. But they didn't, so you don't.

He's in hiding, because he knows what he did was wrong, and he's afraid that they will get him. I say we hunt him down, pull him out of hiding, and convict him.


Fake "Liberal" troll detected.
 
2012-09-13 08:32:24 AM
What the fark has the CIA been doing all this time?
 
2012-09-13 08:32:33 AM

Man On Pink Corner: Beauf: I got shot at a lot because of people like you and I do not appreciate it.

Exactly. That's why I just wrote my Congressman to protest the draft.


I assume you mean that you've written to protest our requirement for draft registration which constitutes both unfair gender discrimination and political discrimination in that it precludes the most peaceful among us from voting thus tilting our "average" electorate towards a hawkish stance.

I've sent a few letters like that myself. I suspect they go in the round file.
 
2012-09-13 08:33:55 AM

jakomo002: Joe Blowme: Oh the poor islamic psychos, why can we just let them kill gays and beat their women in peace right?

No, but if you constantly kill innocent people in your "stability exercises", they might just band together and try to get you back. Like, say, storming an embassy. Or flying planes into your buildings.

It's human nature to try to get revenge after you're wronged, which is what this is. Predictable even, for anyone who knows what the USA hasd been doing in Yemen to Yemenis.

None of this has to do with "Islamic psychos", it's mostly very very angry citizens of the countries where you've farked the populace over by decades of support of dictators (think Mubarak). The Arab Spring was good, but do you honestly believe that people are just going to forget the last 40 years and suddenly start waving American flags?


Its all about islamic psychos, and has been since the 7th century. Arab spring was just a resurgence of islamic psychos.
 
2012-09-13 08:34:14 AM

LtDarkstar: wippit: Mr. Shabooboo: I'm so ticked off about the paper cut I got that I wanna storm the Canadian Embassy because the tree
they made the paper from probably came from Canada.. (That was sarcasm people, I ♥ Canada)

Oh yeah?

I saw this controversial film that two idiots in the US made about Canada. That say it was aboot free speech, but I could see the hate in their depiction of flapping heads and crappy WW2-technology in their army. I'm getting ready right now to go storm the US embassy, eh? Fookin hosers!

/fart
/AAAAAAhahahahahaha

And there's the difference folks... 2 idiots made a film ripping on Canada and the Canadians laugh and ignore it and see it for what it is - trolling. An idiot makes a film ripping on Islam and what do you get? a bunch of terrorist thugs who can't think logically and just proved the film's point of Islam's idiocy - kill everyone and everything from the country that the film came out of even tho only one person made this obscure film. Seriously this tiny film no one would have ever seen until they started their acts of violence - they just PROMOTED IT which is beyond stupid on their part. It's seriously like a bunch of brainless monkeys over there. It's time we just nuked the whole middle east and get it over with.


I am decidely not defending the idiots attacking American embassies, but the film attacking Canada was an ironic parody of American foreign policy. The film from Florida was a racist attack on a third of the world's population.

There are differences. 

P.S. Nuke the Middle East, and the rest of us will come and get you. Trust me. You can't fight the whole farking world.
 
2012-09-13 08:35:03 AM

dittybopper: Free speech is wrong? Then I don't want to be right.


You suck donkey dick.

Was that right? Sure, I can say it, but should I? What does it accomplish? Pissing you off? I mean, it's not even a witty insult.

Nakoula Basseley Nakoula shouldn't be arrested for being a troll, no. But he needs to be called out for being a bigot and an idiot who made an incredibly stupid video.
 
2012-09-13 08:35:13 AM

TheKiwiBird: He's in hiding, because he knows what he did was wrong, and he's afraid that they will get him. I say we hunt him down, pull him out of hiding, and convict him.


With what crime? Would any court convict him of inciting a riot for making a movie? I certainly wouldn't if I was on that jury.

I'm not at all saying he's not a douchebag. He certainly is. I'm just saying 99.87% of the blame needs to go to the people going batshiat over an internet movie. I'm not sure if you're aware of this, but that's not acceptable behavior.
 
2012-09-13 08:36:06 AM

HotIgneous Intruder

>>>> randomjsa: You expected something else when you portray nothing but weakness?
>>>> Thanks Obama.
>>>> That groveling apology is looking increasingly foolish.

Put a butt plug in that pie hole and respect the president
>> Hypocrite like typing detected Link to the threads during the bush years you demanded the same.
 
2012-09-13 08:36:06 AM

Joe Six-Keg: Submitted this with a worse headline.

No laughing matter. If it weren't obvious this was a planned assault, it is now. This is going to be very bad for some people.


Agreed. If people still think this was all caused by Terry Jones's movie, then they are idiots. This had to be planned for weeks before anyone even knew about that stupid movie. These "protesters" were just looking for an excuse.
 
2012-09-13 08:37:11 AM

LL316: Ed Grubermann: It's time to put on your Big Girl Panties and stop acting like a bunch of children.

This.


That.

Dear protestors,

Look, the film portrays the prophet Mohammad in a negative light. I can understand why you would be upset.

However, what kind of light are YOU portraying Mohammad and his religion in by acting like this?

Hugs and kisses,

The rest of the world
 
2012-09-13 08:37:31 AM
"Tolerance of evil is a crime" - Mann
 
2012-09-13 08:37:33 AM

m2313: rev. dave: It is like someone invading your home, you should be able to shoot them before they hurt someone.

Somewhat this.
It's why I can't take people who decry the black bloc tactic in protest movements/Occupy seriously. "You're excusing a crackdown by the cops", "you're endangering peaceful protesters". 1) No, the cops were gonna crack down to begin with, you don't wait until they start shooting to take action. It's like the idiots who cried about "premature antifacism" at the people beating fascist ass in the streets in the early/mid 30s. 2) The black bloc usually functions as the buffer between peaceful protesters and police beatings.
Not to mention it's somehow okay to label defensive action violent. "Oh man they're throwing tear gas canisters that the police shot back at them so protesters can breathe and aren't hospitalized by chemical weapons and the Oakland PD gets a taste of their own terrorism, what domestic terrorists!."
Granted, shooting into the rioting crowd probably won't tactically end well (just like the BB isn't always a great tactic for the situation) but I agree with you in principle.
/Minor unrelated rant over


Yes, the over privileged teenagers who turn up from the suburbs at the Occupy events to knock over paper boxes are so very helpful. Not. I attended an Occupy march last week and, thankfully, the little shiats were in school or something. The event went very well.
 
2012-09-13 08:37:46 AM
Time to call 'Broken Arrow' and lay Snake and Nape on everything
 
2012-09-13 08:39:30 AM

Waxing_Chewbacca: President Obama's drone program has been very effective. Don't want drones in your country? Join the world community and drag your sorry ass out of the 7th century!


Just realize that if you Do send drones to my country, and start bombing "suspected militants" (not to imply there's athe slightest lick of judicial review or any actual legal process), and you kill busloads of innocents, some of my countrymen are going to be angry and will try to even the odds by killing YOUR people wherever they can find them.

So when an embassy gets attacked and Americans die, just think this : "This is the cost of doing the kind of business we do" and man the fark up. It's just the calculus of war.
 
2012-09-13 08:39:40 AM

Joe Blowme: jakomo002: Joe Blowme: Oh the poor islamic psychos, why can we just let them kill gays and beat their women in peace right?

No, but if you constantly kill innocent people in your "stability exercises", they might just band together and try to get you back. Like, say, storming an embassy. Or flying planes into your buildings.

It's human nature to try to get revenge after you're wronged, which is what this is. Predictable even, for anyone who knows what the USA hasd been doing in Yemen to Yemenis.

None of this has to do with "Islamic psychos", it's mostly very very angry citizens of the countries where you've farked the populace over by decades of support of dictators (think Mubarak). The Arab Spring was good, but do you honestly believe that people are just going to forget the last 40 years and suddenly start waving American flags?

Its all about islamic psychos, and has been since the 7th century. Arab spring was just a resurgence of islamic psychos.


No. It wasn't. It was about throwing out dictators. However, as to the idea these people are somehow justified?!!! Insane. President Bush and Obama agree; harbor terrorist and face the wrath of the US. President Obama, rightly, has decided to do so without great loss of life and treasure. Seems the smart course to me.
 
2012-09-13 08:39:44 AM
Obama can not afford to have these acts of violence pinned to the anniversary of 9-11 this close to the election. The media and admnistration has picked a hell of a scapegoat by claiming it's the movies fault.

And when they throw acid in a womans face because some man looked at her.....it must be due to some movie that came out also.

Osama Bin Laden used Obamas time machine to retroactively protest this movie by flying planes into the WTC.
 
2012-09-13 08:41:20 AM

Gleeman: Religion of Peace©?


This comment is beneath you. Pull yourself together.
 
2012-09-13 08:41:22 AM
Let me guess, the next message from President Obama will be, " "I VERY strongly condemn the outrageous attack on our diplomatic facility in Benghazi Yemen, and fart in your general direction." 

/ Ma, it looks like them chickens is comin' home to roost.
 
2012-09-13 08:42:19 AM
It's the BIG SHIAT SAMMICH. And Obamas lack of any balls means we all get a bite. American citizens are being murdered. American soil is being over run. And we have Mickey Mouse in the White House. Libya, Cairo, now Yemen, this is just the beginning. Open Wide.
 
2012-09-13 08:43:11 AM

wippit: Your Muslims are so unlike your Muhammad.


No, the historical Muhammad actually was a rather violent, though militarily successful, warlord.
 
2012-09-13 08:44:24 AM

Lt. Cheese Weasel: It's the BIG SHIAT SAMMICH. And Obamas lack of any balls means we all get a bite. American citizens are being murdered. American soil is being over run. And we have Mickey Mouse in the White House. Libya, Cairo, now Yemen, this is just the beginning. Open Wide.


You sound tired.
 
2012-09-13 08:44:42 AM

Archimedes' Principal: Let me guess, the next message from President Obama will be, " "I VERY strongly condemn the outrageous attack on our diplomatic facility in Benghazi Yemen, and fart in your general direction." 

/ Ma, it looks like them chickens is comin' home to roost.


Please explain what you think should be done without igniting the entire region and destabilizing the worlds energy markets which in turn will utterly destroy the worlds economy back to Bush 2 levels of desperation.
 
2012-09-13 08:45:09 AM

Lunaville: Yes, the over privileged teenagers who turn up from the suburbs at the Occupy events to knock over paper boxes are so very helpful.


I too enjoy men made of straw.
I could offer my personal anecdotes to the contrary, but they're no more relevant than yours.
 
2012-09-13 08:45:09 AM

p4p3rm4t3: way south: So instead of blaming it on bad foreign policy or intolerant people who think storming embassies is a good idea, so far Fark has blamed it on:

1. The Jews.
2. Freedom of speech in the US.
3. An amateur film maker.
4. Israel (The Jews).
5. The CIA.
6. Drugs.
7. The Arab Spring.
8. Mitt Romney.


...I can see there won't be much progress in this thread.

Don't forget money.


And hunger.
 
2012-09-13 08:45:09 AM
I just finished Ender's Game which described the Middle East as a "hornets nest". But it has always been a hornets nest.
 
2012-09-13 08:45:49 AM

way south: bad foreign


Trying to be fair, which "bad foreign policy" was it that led to this?

I honestly don't know.
 
2012-09-13 08:46:09 AM

Bit'O'Gristle: The President needs to release a statement such as this,

"I'm sad to report that our embassy in Yemen has been attacked in yet another vile example of mob violence. The United States will not tolerate attacks on its Sovereign territory and injury or death upon its citizens. We have no wish for violence and only want to peacefully co-exist with every other culture that is upon this planet. We as a nation have a deep respect for ALL religions, including Islam, and expect the same level of respect and treatment from all nations. But....be warned. Our tolerance for loss of American lives only goes so far, and we WILL defend ourselves, These senseless attacks upon our citizens must cease, or the circle of violence will only escalate to a level where it would be very hard to stop it from cascading to a full military action. Please use common sense and stand down, we have no wish to hurt anyone, but we will not stand by while our people and property are destroyed. God bless you, and God bless America.


THIS. Don't be an apologist, but don't be a warmonger either. We don't want to fight, but if you keep coming at
us, we're *going* to defend ourselves.
 
2012-09-13 08:46:12 AM

Mugato: Lt. Cheese Weasel: It's the BIG SHIAT SAMMICH. And Obamas lack of any balls means we all get a bite. American citizens are being murdered. American soil is being over run. And we have Mickey Mouse in the White House. Libya, Cairo, now Yemen, this is just the beginning. Open Wide.

You sound tired.


I'm tired of clueless, gutless morans like you who only want to blame America and our allies first.
 
2012-09-13 08:46:15 AM

TheKiwiBird: LL316: TheKiwiBird: LL316: nmemkha: While the "outrage" is most likely an excuse to vent anger at the US, they producers of the film were callously negligent. Free Speech is a right, but with every right comes a responsibility. They knew there would be violence at the release of the film and yet they released it anyway. Unfortunately, its not their loved ones who are dying, but innocent people caught up in an unnecessary firestorm.

Totally agree with this, but don't go putting the fault there. The fault lies with the animals who react this way over a movie, not the movie maker himself. It's the rapist, not the low cut dress that commits the bad act.

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Are you farking shiatting me?! I heard this argument yesterday and I still can't farking believe it. When a certain event causes a certain reaction in a populace with 100% repeating rate, if you do that event, you know damn well that populace is going to react as they do when they get word of it unless you live under a farking rock.

There's already a link in this thread where they SAID they knew what I said was true, and that is just willful negligence. They are as guilty for the deaths of the victims as the rioters themselves.

It's not a poor lady getting raped because she wore a low cut dress, it's a lady wearing a low cut dress while walking down an alley famous for rape attacks, with 'come and get it' signs taped on her tits and ass.

And if they had attacked the person responsible for the film, you might have an argument. But they didn't, so you don't.

He's in hiding, because he knows what he did was wrong, and he's afraid that they will get him. I say we hunt him down, pull him out of hiding, and convict him.


A group of people on FARK are going to violently object to your act of placing the blame on the movie maker and not the people who used it as an excuse to go looting. By your own logic, you are wrong for acting in a way that will cause a group of people to respond like this.
 
2012-09-13 08:46:29 AM

lucksi: So, how about arresting the one who made the film and charge him with murder and inflicting riots?

If you can charge a fleeing criminal with murder when police shoot some bystanders, you can charge the religious lunatic who made the movie as well.


Except what the guy did is not criminal. The exception to the 1st Amendment for inciting violence/riot (ie, shouting fire in a crowded theater) generally has to have an immediate effect, and also generally has to happen in person. Putting an obscure video on youtube that is watched months later by a random idiot in Egypt who then shares it with his friends is no where near groudns to arrest someone in the U.S.

Now, if some of the tinfoil-esque conspiracy theories turn out to be correct, and this was all staged, then you might have grounds to get him for conspiracy to commit murder or something of that nature
 
2012-09-13 08:47:09 AM

Shirley Ujest: We should hand that film maker and Terry Jones over to some Muslim clerics.


Why? Don't they have the protections provided by our Constitution as well as the right to free speech?
 
2012-09-13 08:47:15 AM

Sgt Stubby: Mocking, ridiculing and attacking Christians is A-OK. Just don't utter a word against islam. Don't you DARE...


You farking imbecile. Mocking and attacking (verbally, not physically) any religion is fine in our country, and may incite riots in others. Personally I wish the entire fundamentalist population of the earth (Muslim, Christian, Jewish, etc) would get their own island (I'd suggest Greenland) and just go ahead and declare holy war and get if over with. Alas, that is not to be, so the 95% of the world's population has to put up with these lunatics the best we can.

But, yes, please continue to feel oppressed.

/God doesn't care about your political bullshiat
//God doesn't care about youtube videos
///God doesn't care if you scored a touchdown
////Pretty sure God does care when you commit violence in his name, or spread hatred on his behalf
//Pretty sure God doesn't exist anyway
 
2012-09-13 08:47:21 AM
Don't worry -- this is all part of Obama's "smart diplomacy" that he promised us.
 
2012-09-13 08:47:38 AM

Securitywyrm: A group of people on FARK are going to violently object to your act of placing the blame on the movie maker and not the people who used it as an excuse to go looting. By your own logic, you are wrong for acting in a way that will cause a group of people to respond like this.


*storms your embassy*
 
2012-09-13 08:48:18 AM

jakomo002: Waxing_Chewbacca: President Obama's drone program has been very effective. Don't want drones in your country? Join the world community and drag your sorry ass out of the 7th century!

Just realize that if you Do send drones to my country, and start bombing "suspected militants" (not to imply there's athe slightest lick of judicial review or any actual legal process), and you kill busloads of innocents, some of my countrymen are going to be angry and will try to even the odds by killing YOUR people wherever they can find them.

So when an embassy gets attacked and Americans die, just think this : "This is the cost of doing the kind of business we do" and man the fark up. It's just the calculus of war.


In the last statement I made I asked you not to truncate my statement, as you did previously. It's a crap way to make you're point. You did it again. Can't you read? Read this? Eat a bag of dicks.
 
2012-09-13 08:49:42 AM

Gunny Highway: I just finished Ender's Game which described the Middle East as a "hornets nest". But it has always been a hornets nest.


It takes an enormous amount of hubris for the US to think they can go in and 'Cure' these troglodytes. I think it's time to withdraw our forces, and our aid, and leave these assholes to their own devices. But that won't happen because not only do we want their oil, but we want other people to not have it. Personally I would love to be there when they hit empty. Too bad I won't be.
 
2012-09-13 08:50:02 AM

RU4C: Subby here. I thought about including a joke, but knowing the Embassy staff over there is fighting for their lives, just didn't think it was appropriate.


Well stated.
 
2012-09-13 08:50:11 AM

Lt. Cheese Weasel: Mugato: Lt. Cheese Weasel: It's the BIG SHIAT SAMMICH. And Obamas lack of any balls means we all get a bite. American citizens are being murdered. American soil is being over run. And we have Mickey Mouse in the White House. Libya, Cairo, now Yemen, this is just the beginning. Open Wide.

You sound tired.

I'm tired of clueless, gutless morans like you who only want to blame America and our allies first.


Yeah, unlike you, who has the brass balls to sit at a computer and tell others to do... what exactly in response to this? Invade more random ME countries? Well guess what genius, we tried that and under Bush we had a lot more embassies attacked than we do now, with more deaths. People like you are the reason the term "chicken hawk" was invented.
 
2012-09-13 08:50:52 AM

Waxing_Chewbacca: No. It wasn't. It was about throwing out dictators.


Except, and this is important, before the dictators were overthrown by their people, the USA fully supported those same dictators for decades.

Take Hosni Mubarak in Egypt. For 40 years he was America's best friend, recipient of billions odf dollars in military aid. Egypt wasn't at war with anyone, so the military hardware was trained on the POPULACE, to keep the dictator in control.

Do you honestly for one second believe that Egyptians are running around saying "Whoo-hoo all is forgiven America!" They're distrustful and angry. Which, based on US actions in the Middle East, they sure as shiat should be.
 
2012-09-13 08:51:14 AM

nmemkha: While the "outrage" is most likely an excuse to vent anger at the US, they producers of the film were callously negligent. Free Speech is a right, but with every right comes a responsibility. They knew there would be violence at the release of the film and yet they released it anyway. Unfortunately, its not their loved ones who are dying, but innocent people caught up in an unnecessary firestorm.


So if the Tea Party had a history of violence would that mean that Michael Moore could never responsibly make a documentary critical of them?

/free speech is often unpopular otherwise it would need protecting
 
2012-09-13 08:52:04 AM

Securitywyrm: TheKiwiBird: LL316: TheKiwiBird: LL316: nmemkha: While the "outrage" is most likely an excuse to vent anger at the US, they producers of the film were callously negligent. Free Speech is a right, but with every right comes a responsibility. They knew there would be violence at the release of the film and yet they released it anyway. Unfortunately, its not their loved ones who are dying, but innocent people caught up in an unnecessary firestorm.

Totally agree with this, but don't go putting the fault there. The fault lies with the animals who react this way over a movie, not the movie maker himself. It's the rapist, not the low cut dress that commits the bad act.

picard.jpg

Are you farking shiatting me?! I heard this argument yesterday and I still can't farking believe it. When a certain event causes a certain reaction in a populace with 100% repeating rate, if you do that event, you know damn well that populace is going to react as they do when they get word of it unless you live under a farking rock.

There's already a link in this thread where they SAID they knew what I said was true, and that is just willful negligence. They are as guilty for the deaths of the victims as the rioters themselves.

It's not a poor lady getting raped because she wore a low cut dress, it's a lady wearing a low cut dress while walking down an alley famous for rape attacks, with 'come and get it' signs taped on her tits and ass.

And if they had attacked the person responsible for the film, you might have an argument. But they didn't, so you don't.

He's in hiding, because he knows what he did was wrong, and he's afraid that they will get him. I say we hunt him down, pull him out of hiding, and convict him.

A group of people on FARK are going to violently object to your act of placing the blame on the movie maker and not the people who used it as an excuse to go looting. By your own logic, you are wrong for acting in a way that will cause a group of people to respond like this.


Yeah i remember that thread, one of FARK's classic moments. In the coming days they will continue to shout that this is just a handful of extremists and not representative of the arab world at all, and most ofthe discussion will somehow comeback to mitt romney and the tea party.
 
2012-09-13 08:52:04 AM

MythDragon: Slaxl: Or... and just throwing this out there, the creator used a fake name because he knew he'd be killed otherwise, people on the street haven't seen it, they just heard someone say "Americans insulted Mohammed, let's go storm their embassy", because it's just that easy.

But we didn't insult the Big Mo. The film said he was a kiddy molester, womanizer and ruthless killer. He was. He had a 6 year old wife. Among lots of other wives, and he killed countless people without mercy. The Koran explicitly states this. (It also says he was born without a foreskin!) So why are they mad about someone confiming their beliefs?


Yeah, we didn't, it wasn't even an American film maker. My point was that to whip the crowd up into a frenzy doesn't take a lot. They don't stop and go "wait, let me fact check that before getting my rioting hat". They just need to be told that Mo has been offended and they'll go a riotin', apparently. I base that on the frequency of their riots over nothing, and the often misdirected anger.
 
2012-09-13 08:52:07 AM
Wow.. just Wow! There are people in this thread insinuating that the Romney campaign is somehow behind these Middle East shaitbags. Amazingly idiotic... congratulations Fark.
 
2012-09-13 08:53:20 AM
Where can I buy this movie?
 
2012-09-13 08:53:36 AM
A few racists and someone exercising their constitutional right to carry a firearem at a peaceful tea party protest - OMG THE CHRISTIAN FUNDIES ARE ALL RACIST HOMOPHOBIC NAZIS WHO ARE GOING TO KILL US AND TAKE OUR FREEDOMS TO MAKE OTHERS PAY FOR OUR ABORTIONS!

Thousands of muslims in multiple countries executing planned attacks on our embassies with the intent of and successfully accomplishingly killing our Diplomats - THESE ARE JUST A FEW EXTREMIST EXCEPTIONS! RELIGION OF PEACE! YOU'RE JUST RACIST AGAINST BROWN PEOPLE! IT'S BIG OIL AND THE JEWS PULLING THE STRINGS!

/this is what liberals actually believe
 
2012-09-13 08:54:00 AM

Lt. Cheese Weasel: Mugato: Lt. Cheese Weasel: It's the BIG SHIAT SAMMICH. And Obamas lack of any balls means we all get a bite. American citizens are being murdered. American soil is being over run. And we have Mickey Mouse in the White House. Libya, Cairo, now Yemen, this is just the beginning. Open Wide.

You sound tired.

I'm tired of clueless, gutless morans like you who only want to blame America and our allies first.


Well you seemed pretty quick to blame the president and make a number of empty meaningless accusations about his ability, so... you tire of yourself?

I think Mugato sort of nailed it actually.
 
2012-09-13 08:54:45 AM

WhiskeyBender: Cheviot: We have armed Marines on embassy grounds, right? They have automatic rifles available, right?

Why are the protesters who've crossed onto embassy grounds even alive?

The protesters now are unarmed. If we started killing unarmed people now it would create a full on battle before our Marines got there. We would reallllllyyy look good shooting unarmed kids.


They're invading US territory and destroying American property. Shoot them.
 
2012-09-13 08:55:08 AM

Emracool the Aeons Hip: somedude210: /wouldn't at all be surprised if this traced back to Team Romney

[www.humanevents.com image 620x447]

That's simply not true, Obama's apologetic stance on America is what causes these awful tragedies that befell our Embassies abroad. If you send me to the White House in November, I promise I will never apologize for American films and American Freedoms™ Stay with Christ


He's a Mormon, not a Christian
 
2012-09-13 08:55:33 AM

Joe Six-Keg: Kittypie070: F********CK IS SOMEONE SLIPPING LDS INTO THE WATER SUPPLIES!!??

If that was an intentional typo, that's some funny right there.


He took a little too much back in the '60s
 
2012-09-13 08:55:54 AM

Sgt Stubby: Mocking, ridiculing and attacking Christians is A-OK. Just don't utter a word against islam. Don't you DARE...


Oh, for me my reaction to Islam is a bit more visceral. But really, anyone who takes an invisible sky fairy that seriously just deserves to be mocked.
 
2012-09-13 08:56:08 AM

jakomo002: Waxing_Chewbacca: No. It wasn't. It was about throwing out dictators.

Except, and this is important, before the dictators were overthrown by their people, the USA fully supported those same dictators for decades.

Take Hosni Mubarak in Egypt. For 40 years he was America's best friend, recipient of billions odf dollars in military aid. Egypt wasn't at war with anyone, so the military hardware was trained on the POPULACE, to keep the dictator in control.

Do you honestly for one second believe that Egyptians are running around saying "Whoo-hoo all is forgiven America!" They're distrustful and angry. Which, based on US actions in the Middle East, they sure as shiat should be.


Lesser of 2 evils, strongman of islamic pshychos... i have to go with the strongman who will keep savages in check. Besides, they drew first blood in 1790's, Barbary Pirates and all that so can we just point to that as justification to kill them? Or can we go back further and blame the taking of Vienna? Or Spain? Ect...
 
2012-09-13 08:56:10 AM

Sgt Stubby: ThrobblefootSpectre: the historical Muhammad actually was a rather violent, though militarily successful, warlord.


If he ever existed, that is. The evidence points to 'prophet' mohammad actually being a composite character (much like those in the book that bill ayers wrote for fartbongo). Most of the koran is just re-hashed stuff from the Bible. They couldn't even come up with new characters. The rest, as is widely agreed, is incomprehensible babble.

It is to religion what kwanzaa is to Christmas. But we can't talk about that. 


/btw, why is everyone forced to say and write 'prophet mohammad' when discussing islam but not Lord Jesus when referencing Christianity? Oh, I forgot. Islam might get angry... and people could die.


Probably because the Lord Jesus was made up at the councel at Nicea by Constantine.
 
2012-09-13 08:56:24 AM

Sm3agol85: Good lord people....what the fark? I see post after post blaming the film maker for this, and wanting to throw him to the angry crowd and such..........WTF? So we're groveling at the feet of Islam now, and telling them that freedom of speech means nothing to us? Fark them, and fark you "apologists" too. Yes, the guy who made the video is an idiot. Being an idiot is not illegal, storming a foreign embassy is illegal. Insinuating that the film maker is somehow responsible for people rioting and killing people is pretty hilariously close to blaming a rape victim for wearing a revealing dress. Yes, the video was provocative. That is not illegal, killing people is illegal, even over there. There is only one group at fault here, and that is the rioters. If you can't deal with a random Youtube video without rioting, then you are a farking bunch of idiots deserving of zero respect. Pick literally anything on the planet and you can probably find a youtube video ridiculing it. If you find something that hasn't been ridiculed yet, let me know, and I'll make one myself. Islam shouldn't be the only thing on the planet you're not allowed to ridicule. Fark them.


You're making too damned much sense! That's not allowed in here!!! STFU and GBTW!!!


/I wish I'd said everything you just did.

 
2012-09-13 08:56:32 AM

RolandGunner: common sense is an oxymoron: In other news, the maker of the film that started it all has gone into hiding, his spokesman was chosen because he leads anti-Islamic protests at mosques and schools, and the cast claims that much of the dialogue was dubbed in without their knowledge or consent.

Link

Also...

"We went into this knowing this was probably going to happen"



Because the real problem here is too much free speech.


Free Speech doesn't cover saying things Liberals don't like.
 
2012-09-13 08:57:36 AM

Cheviot: We have armed Marines on embassy grounds, right? They have automatic rifles available, right?

Why are the protesters who've crossed onto embassy grounds even alive?


These questions need to be asked. But our media won't do it.

I do believe they were taken out beforehand (and yes, these were planned attacks)... or they were told to stand down, do nothing.

But our Dem media is too busy blasting Romney for speaking out instead of asking these questions.

 
2012-09-13 08:57:51 AM

Sgt Stubby: Why is everyone forced to say and write 'prophet mohammad' when discussing islam but not Lord Jesus when referencing Christianity? Oh, I forgot. Islam might get angry... and people could die.


You all (Christian, Jewish, Muslim) are farking idiots, blindly following the shiat your parents shoved down your throats. Grow the fark up already. This applies x2 to the Muslims, as they seem to be the ones blowing up more shiat this century. Leave the rest of us alone. We are so farking sick of you all.
 
2012-09-13 08:58:01 AM

jakomo002: Waxing_Chewbacca: No. It wasn't. It was about throwing out dictators.

Except, and this is important, before the dictators were overthrown by their people, the USA fully supported those same dictators for decades.

Take Hosni Mubarak in Egypt. For 40 years he was America's best friend, recipient of billions odf dollars in military aid. Egypt wasn't at war with anyone, so the military hardware was trained on the POPULACE, to keep the dictator in control.

Do you honestly for one second believe that Egyptians are running around saying "Whoo-hoo all is forgiven America!" They're distrustful and angry. Which, based on US actions in the Middle East, they sure as shiat should be.


I understand and agree. But those who turn to terrorism must blown off the face off the planet. Drones are a surgical method of doing what must be done. So grow the fark and understand there are no absolutes in foreign policy. I'm also done with you until you can post my entire statement and not cut only what you wish to use to make your point. Oh... And this... The far-right AND the far-left have one important thing in common. An inability to understand that dogmatic adherence to ideology will very likely get us all killed.
 
2012-09-13 08:59:51 AM
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2012-09-13 09:00:11 AM

alywa: Sgt Stubby: Why is everyone forced to say and write 'prophet mohammad' when discussing islam but not Lord Jesus when referencing Christianity? Oh, I forgot. Islam might get angry... and people could die.

You all (Christian, Jewish, Muslim) are farking idiots, blindly following the shiat your parents shoved down your throats. Grow the fark up already. This applies x2 to the Muslims, as they seem to be the ones blowing up more shiat this century. Leave the rest of us alone. We are so farking sick of you all.


Or else what?
You'll send them a strongly worded letter?
You'll send drones to blow them up?
What?
 
2012-09-13 09:01:17 AM

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This
 
2012-09-13 09:01:32 AM

Mugato: Lt. Cheese Weasel: Mugato: Lt. Cheese Weasel: It's the BIG SHIAT SAMMICH. And Obamas lack of any balls means we all get a bite. American citizens are being murdered. American soil is being over run. And we have Mickey Mouse in the White House. Libya, Cairo, now Yemen, this is just the beginning. Open Wide.

You sound tired.

I'm tired of clueless, gutless morans like you who only want to blame America and our allies first.

Yeah, unlike you, who has the brass balls to sit at a computer and tell others to do... what exactly in response to this? Invade more random ME countries? Well guess what genius, we tried that and under Bush we had a lot more embassies attacked than we do now, with more deaths. People like you are the reason the term "chicken hawk" was invented.


Nobody daid anything about invading. How about just shooting back? Or would that offend somebody? We wouldn't want that, would we? It's people like you the term 'pillow biter' was invented. What's your pressure point Mugato? How many have to die before you think the US is justified in defending it's citizens and embassies? I'm curious.
 
2012-09-13 09:01:39 AM

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Shhhh, you are proving the case that free speech only applies to those who agree with left democrats. Also, announcing that you are ignoring someone is just like an attention whore doing cartwheels across the page and offering BIE

 
2012-09-13 09:01:51 AM

vegasj: Cheviot: We have armed Marines on embassy grounds, right? They have automatic rifles available, right?

Why are the protesters who've crossed onto embassy grounds even alive?

These questions need to be asked. But our media won't do it.

I do believe they were taken out beforehand (and yes, these were planned attacks)... or they were told to stand down, do nothing.

But our Dem media is too busy blasting Romney for speaking out instead of asking these questions.


I read this morning there were no marines stationed in bengazi.
 
2012-09-13 09:02:47 AM

Joe Blowme: I read this morning there were no marines stationed in bengazi.


Well, surely there were local police or military. They don't have these place totally unguarded... unless I'm wrong.

 
2012-09-13 09:03:04 AM

jakomo002: Waxing_Chewbacca: No. It wasn't. It was about throwing out dictators.

Except, and this is important, before the dictators were overthrown by their people, the USA fully supported those same dictators for decades.

Take Hosni Mubarak in Egypt. For 40 years he was America's best friend, recipient of billions odf dollars in military aid. Egypt wasn't at war with anyone, so the military hardware was trained on the POPULACE, to keep the dictator in control.

Do you honestly for one second believe that Egyptians are running around saying "Whoo-hoo all is forgiven America!" They're distrustful and angry. Which, based on US actions in the Middle East, they sure as shiat should be.


So we shouldn't correct our mistake? Also, it seems, they just end up replacing one dictator with another, so not sure what the net gain is there. (In fairness, at least they got to choose!)
 
2012-09-13 09:03:31 AM
These protesters are protesting because they are offended that Americans are against Gay Marriage. Why are Republicans so racist against them?
 
2012-09-13 09:03:51 AM

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Hah! This... reposted so this dumba$s can read it twice.
 
2012-09-13 09:04:44 AM

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You're free to blather whatever derp you like. I'm free to ignore it in favor of intelligent discussion. You're just proving the case that conservatives think criticism is equivalent to censorship.
 
2012-09-13 09:04:56 AM

vegasj: Joe Blowme: I read this morning there were no marines stationed in bengazi.

Well, surely there were local police or military. They don't have these place totally unguarded... unless I'm wrong.


remember, members of the same death cult that killed our people were incharge of security and CBS says they actively helped the attackers.
 
2012-09-13 09:05:51 AM

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Yes. Supporting Osama bin Laden during the Soviet-Afghan war was certainly nuanced and complicated. And installing the Shah of Iran. And supporting Saddam Hussein (who can forget Rumsfeld shaking his hand?). And Invading Irak. And Gitmo. And drone strikes. And protecting Saudi Arabia. And supporting Israel despite regional outrage over Israeli behavior and running effectively concentration camps in Palestine. And giving Israel nuclear weapons.
Yes, all very nuanced and subtle and complex.

Thank god, Jebus, and Ally we have Ivy Leagers to keep it all straight and on track for us.
 
2012-09-13 09:06:01 AM
beta_plus

A few racists and someone exercising their constitutional right to carry a firearem at a peaceful tea party protest - OMG THE CHRISTIAN FUNDIES ARE ALL RACIST HOMOPHOBIC NAZIS WHO ARE GOING TO KILL US AND TAKE OUR FREEDOMS TO MAKE OTHERS PAY FOR OUR ABORTIONS!

As a reminder...
MSNBC Turns Black Man With Gun At Obama Rally Into White Man
An African American man showed up at President Obama's health care rally in Arizona (Aug. 17) carrying an AR 15 assault rifle and a pistol and MSNBC reporters edited footage and spun the story in order to make its viewers believe that the armed man was white as opposed to being black.
 
2012-09-13 09:06:42 AM
This just shows the complete ignorance of the muslim world.

I just watched the movie.. if this is enough to make them go batshiat crazy and riot in the streets.. they REALLY are too stupid and violent to be left to themselves.

We need to nuke it from orbit just to be sure.
 
2012-09-13 09:07:07 AM

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Awww, now you have to defend free speech of people who don't vote for you. Those big boy pants for making tough ethical decisions sure are uncomfortable, aren't they? Especially when the peanut gallery is suddenly not cheering for you anymore.
 
2012-09-13 09:07:17 AM
Joe Blowme:
Of what? free speech?



Free speech is wrong? Then I don't want to be right.

He slammed a religion, and he knew doing it was going to cause violent riots because that's what they do. If that's not a wrong thing to do, then I don't wanna live on this planet anymore.

jso2897:
Fake "Liberal" troll detected.


Nope. But good try.

LL316:
With what crime? Would any court convict him of inciting a riot for making a movie? I certainly wouldn't if I was on that jury.

I'm not at all saying he's not a douchebag. He certainly is. I'm just saying 99.87% of the blame needs to go to the people going batshiat over an internet movie. I'm not sure if you're aware of this, but that's not acceptable behavior.


So you're saying that if a man does something with the intent of making a group of people pissed off, and they get pissed off and in the fervor kill a few people, you're saying that the man who intentionally pissed people off wasn't at least indirectly the cause of the deaths? It's not like these people were running around killing people for no reason (and before somebody points out suicide bombers, those guys believe we're invading them and they believe that killing us will make us go away).
Securitywyrm: A group of people on FARK are going to violently object to your act of placing the blame on the movie maker and not the people who used it as an excuse to go looting. By your own logic, you are wrong for acting in a way that will cause a group of people to respond like this.

I wasn't saying that it was all his fault. I'm saying that if you know that doing something makes people act violently, then you should be blamed too, and equally. I don't condone these farking riots either, because there's a small pile of dead people that didn't have to be dead, but you can't blame the rioters solely for losing their shiat. They had a reason for rioting, even if they shouldn't have reacted by a riot.
 
2012-09-13 09:07:20 AM

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These threads are great for identifying the mouth breathers. Foreign policy is more nuanced and complicated than shoot first ask questions later and Muslim=bad.

Yes. Supporting Osama bin Laden during the Soviet-Afghan war was certainly nuanced and complicated. And installing the Shah of Iran. And supporting Saddam Hussein (who can forget Rumsfeld shaking his hand?). And Invading Irak. And Gitmo. And drone strikes. And protecting Saudi Arabia. And supporting Israel despite regional outrage over Israeli behavior and running effectively concentration camps in Palestine. And giving Israel nuclear weapons.
Yes, all very nuanced and subtle and complex.

Thank god, Jebus, and Ally we have Ivy Leagers to keep it all straight and on track for us.


Why in the world would we need to give a bunch of Jewish people nuclear weapons when they were the ones who farking built them?
 
2012-09-13 09:07:24 AM

Deacon Blue: quantum_jellyroll: Maybe it's time for a round of "Cowboys & Muslims".

Or maybe, "Regan and Russians". Just substitute 'Muslims' for 'Russians'. I really, really hope Obama steps up and kicks some ass.


I'm sure he will. He'll show those embassy types what they get for not apologizing to the muzzies for getting steamrolled..
 
2012-09-13 09:07:26 AM

Baryogenesis: I'm free to ignore it in favor of intelligent discussion.


Dude, this is FARK, not the Kennedy School of Government.
 
2012-09-13 09:07:43 AM
Joe Blowme: Lesser of 2 evils, strongman of islamic pshychos... i have to go with the strongman who will keep savages in check. Besides, they drew first blood in 1790's, Barbary Pirates and all that so can we just point to that as justification to kill them? Or can we go back further and blame the taking of Vienna? Or Spain? Ect...,

Dude, I'm sorry. I didn't even realize I was arguing with crazy person. Sorry, and seek help for your obvious mental illness.

Waxing_Chewbacca: I understand and agree. But those who turn to terrorism must blown off the face off the planet. Drones are a surgical method of doing what must be done. So grow the fark and understand there are no absolutes in foreign policy. I'm also done with you until you can post my entire statement and not cut only what you wish to use to make your point. Oh... And this... The far-right AND the far-left have one important thing in common. An inability to understand that dogmatic adherence to ideology will very likely get us all killed.

It's very very well -documented that when you go hogwild with drones, massacring innocents accidentally to get to your "primary suspect", the survivors HATE you and will try to enact revenge. Or their neighbours will. Or their family. Or their in-laws.

Drones might kill a few "suspected militants", but they create far more "terrorists". Put yourself in their shoes.

"well, it looks like a US drone hit the wedding party, killed the guy they were looking for and also accidentally bruned my 4 children to death. Let's get to work on making some new kids, wifey."

No, they arm and find ways to enact revenge, which is VERY big in those areas.
 
2012-09-13 09:08:38 AM

fusillade762: Why does the Islamic world seem to susceptible to trolling? Can we turn that to our advantage?


I'm thinking blasphemous skywriters. Chem trails of outrage, if you will. Scribble insults to Mohammed all over their skies, let 'em kill each other rioting.
 
2012-09-13 09:09:43 AM

master_dman: This just shows the complete ignorance of the muslim world.

I just watched the movie.. if this is enough to make them go batshiat crazy and riot in the streets.. they REALLY are too stupid and violent to be left to themselves.

We need to nuke it from orbit just to be sure.


You make a very valid point here.
They are some crazy, infantile people.
 
2012-09-13 09:10:03 AM
From now on, all stories related to this alleged film should use the Irony tag.

Irony because this whole thing arises from AN UNSUBSTANTIATED RUMOUR. We don't know if the film even exists at all. Yet all this anger and violence abounds due to RUMOURS SPREAD BY THE INTERNET. Sound at all familiar to anyone?

Anyone know any Americans like that? Americans who accept as fact, or at least plausibly likely, various rumours they hear online about various things or people they're predisposed to believe such things about -- to want to believe such things about, facts and verification be damned? And then act on those beliefs in their daily lives and politics?

This goes beyond the 'chickens come home to roost' argument (which is still valid for other reasons here); this bespeaks an entire species of knee-jerking morans who probably are not collectively prepared to meet the real future challenges of this world, who can't face the hard and unpleasant truths about themselves -- and thus fulfil the vital first step of real personal change and betterment, and who simply refuse to even contemplate the ego-busting possibility of being wrong about anything.

Think about this. This ENTIRE thing is built on a mountainous landfill of practically nothing, and reacting like tiny screaming babies to that practically nothing. Not just them -- us, too: a huge amount of the anti-Muslim fever in this country is also based on prejudice, rumour, and outright lies. Not every last shred, of course, but mostly. And the fact that so many Americans take their received wisdom about all this from doubtful sources -- and then actually make important decisions based on that -- is no better than what's happening over there.

So don't y'all get too smug or judgemental. We haven't stormed any embassies lately, that's true. But when it comes to evaluating facts and deciding how to respond based on what we 'know,' we're not batting much better than anyone else.
 
2012-09-13 09:10:08 AM

dittybopper: Hobodeluxe: dittybopper: Kind of like how Reagan was an addled, doddering old simpleton when it was politically advantageous to the Democrats

like when he was asleep all during the Iran-Contra thing? That was really advantageous for the Democrats huh?

You didn't read the next sentence, or follow that link, did you?


I don't think anyone believes Reagan was a conniving, evil genius. However, his vice-president, former head of the CIA, Bush the Elder ... yeah. I suspect Bush the Elder is largely responsible for tarnishing the Reagan legacy while merrily allowing an ill man to take the blame.
 
2012-09-13 09:10:33 AM

Lt. Cheese Weasel: Nobody daid anything about invading. How about just shooting back? Or would that offend somebody? We wouldn't want that, would we? It's people like you the term 'pillow biter' was invented. What's your pressure point Mugato? How many have to die before you think the US is justified in defending it's citizens and embassies? I'm curious.


Um, have someone read the article to you. The protesters were driven away. Are you pissed that only one protester was shot and killed? I'm not sure what you're pissed at Obama for regarding this.
 
2012-09-13 09:10:40 AM

PunGent: fusillade762: Why does the Islamic world seem to susceptible to trolling? Can we turn that to our advantage?

I'm thinking blasphemous skywriters. Chem trails of outrage, if you will. Scribble insults to Mohammed all over their skies, let 'em kill each other rioting.


Skywriting done with aerosolized bacon, perhaps.
 
2012-09-13 09:11:02 AM
Muslims are no different than any other religion.
No, really.
 
2012-09-13 09:11:22 AM

Waxing_Chewbacca: bakarocket: Waxing_Chewbacca: Don't want drones in your country? Join the world community and drag your sorry ass out of t ...

The fact that the strongest countries in the world can say inane shiat like that with impunity is a part of the problem.

Few knowledgable people deny that there are idiots everywhere. Why do you keep denying that your leaders aren't idiots, too? You understand that the fact that all of you are dirt-eating, cousin-farking hicks is exactly the problem?

You truncated my statement to fit your narrative. I'm supporting the President and I was responding to a statement that Yeman has reason to riot due to the drone strikes. They do not. We have interests to protect and they are a nation willing to be a Disney Resort for our most dreaded enemies. Your reply cut my statement down to a piece of one sentence. Don't be so dishonest in order to make your point.


I was replying to the entire piece, and quoting for brevity. Your entire point was repugnant. I don't need to rebut every sentence to illuminate the fact that people like you - and those attacking the embassies - are exactly the same, and are exactly the problem.
 
2012-09-13 09:11:58 AM

Sylvia_Bandersnatch: We don't know if the film even exists at all.


The trailer on YouTube exists.
That's the trouble.
 
2012-09-13 09:12:01 AM

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These threads are great for identifying the mouth breathers. Foreign policy is more nuanced and complicated than shoot first ask questions later and Muslim=bad.


"By giving us the opinions of the uneducated, it keeps us in touch with the ignorance of the community."
-Oscar Wilde

truer now than when he said it.

Fark.com: Giving mouthbreathers a stage and smart people the chance to monitor them since 2001.
 
2012-09-13 09:12:14 AM

Sgt Stubby: If he ever existed, that is. The evidence points to 'prophet' mohammad actually being a composite character


I'll go with the overwhelming consensus of historians that Abū al-Qāsim Muḥammad was a real individual who rallied nomadic tribesmen to become caravan raiders. The many merchant raids and battles he led his armies into are documented in non-religious historical writings, starting with The Battle of Badr fought on Saturday, 13 March 624 AD. The whole Islam as a religion thing came about 200 years after his death.

In fact, I have never even seen even one source imply he wasn't a real person. But if you have a citation otherwise I will read it.
 
2012-09-13 09:13:20 AM

BgJonson79: So we shouldn't correct our mistake? Also, it seems, they just end up replacing one dictator with another, so not sure what the net gain is there. (In fairness, at least they got to choose!)


No, no you absolutely SHOULD support the removal of the dictators. What I'm saying is that since the US supported those same dictators for decades, the people who suffered under that rule aren't automatically going to be pro-U.S. They're apt to be a little, um, butthurt over the whole thing. They'll need time.
 
2012-09-13 09:13:30 AM

Insatiable Jesus: According to The Wall Street Journal, Bacile said he raised $5 million from about 100 Jewish donors to make the two-hour movie in California last year.
http://www.cnn.com/2012/09/12/world/anti-islam-film/index.html


That has to be bullshiat. There is no way anyone spent 5 million dollars on that. It looks like someone's very bad high school film studies project.
 
2012-09-13 09:13:41 AM

Father_Jack: Baryogenesis: *Refresh*
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These threads are great for identifying the mouth breathers. Foreign policy is more nuanced and complicated than shoot first ask questions later and Muslim=bad.

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-Oscar Wilde

truer now than when he said it.

Fark.com: Giving mouthbreathers a stage and smart people the chance to monitor them since 2001.


Isn't it sorta a dangerous and slippery-slope thought to think that you need to "monitor" people you disagree with?
 
2012-09-13 09:13:41 AM

HotIgneous Intruder: Baryogenesis: *Refresh*
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These threads are great for identifying the mouth breathers. Foreign policy is more nuanced and complicated than shoot first ask questions later and Muslim=bad.

Yes. Supporting Osama bin Laden during the Soviet-Afghan war was certainly nuanced and complicated. And installing the Shah of Iran. And supporting Saddam Hussein (who can forget Rumsfeld shaking his hand?). And Invading Irak. And Gitmo. And drone strikes. And protecting Saudi Arabia. And supporting Israel despite regional outrage over Israeli behavior and running effectively concentration camps in Palestine. And giving Israel nuclear weapons.
Yes, all very nuanced and subtle and complex.

Thank god, Jebus, and Ally we have Ivy Leagers to keep it all straight and on track for us.


And all those fark ups contribute to the current state of affairs in the Middle East and help explain the delicate and complicated situation we find ourselves in. Did you think any of those examples now make foreign policy simple?

HotIgneous Intruder: Baryogenesis: I'm free to ignore it in favor of intelligent discussion.

Dude, this is FARK, not the Kennedy School of Government.


Just because YOU have never been involved in intelligent discussion doesn't mean no one else has been.
 
2012-09-13 09:14:15 AM

jakomo002: Joe Blowme: Lesser of 2 evils, strongman of islamic pshychos... i have to go with the strongman who will keep savages in check. Besides, they drew first blood in 1790's, Barbary Pirates and all that so can we just point to that as justification to kill them? Or can we go back further and blame the taking of Vienna? Or Spain? Ect...,

Dude, I'm sorry. I didn't even realize I was arguing with crazy person. Sorry, and seek help for your obvious mental illness.

Waxing_Chewbacca: I understand and agree. But those who turn to terrorism must blown off the face off the planet. Drones are a surgical method of doing what must be done. So grow the fark and understand there are no absolutes in foreign policy. I'm also done with you until you can post my entire statement and not cut only what you wish to use to make your point. Oh... And this... The far-right AND the far-left have one important thing in common. An inability to understand that dogmatic adherence to ideology will very likely get us all killed.

It's very very well -documented that when you go hogwild with drones, massacring innocents accidentally to get to your "primary suspect", the survivors HATE you and will try to enact revenge. Or their neighbours will. Or their family. Or their in-laws.

Drones might kill a few "suspected militants", but they create far more "terrorists". Put yourself in their shoes.

"well, it looks like a US drone hit the wedding party, killed the guy they were looking for and also accidentally bruned my 4 children to death. Let's get to work on making some new kids, wifey."

No, they arm and find ways to enact revenge, which is VERY big in those areas.


Boots on the ground would have been Presidents Bush 2"s position. Which is and was insane. This seems to make more sense. Or you would allow these terrorist who are using yeman as a base to live in peace and kill at will? Smart foreign policy you got there. If the peaceful people of Yeman want peace they can always decide not to tolerate the cold blooded killers who live amongst them. You have no ideas. You have coca-cola "I'd like to teach the world to sing" foreign policy.
 
2012-09-13 09:14:42 AM

The Stealth Hippopotamus: Why the hell you accept a diplomatic posting in Yemen?!

Good luck guys.


My (admittedly limited) understanding of the State Department is, you do your time in various less-desirable assignments, and work your way up to the nice spots. Unless you're a specialist in one area/region/language...then, that's probably where you'll spend your career.

You can't speak French, it doesn't make a lot of sense to post you to Quebec...
 
2012-09-13 09:15:17 AM

duckfarkit: opiumpoopy: duckfarkit: Sweet baby Jesus. The reverb from the Arab Spring. I so want Obama to handle this well; otherwise this is ammo for the rtards & a recipe for disaster

No it's not, dumbass. Yemen hasn't had a spring - the whole country is bonkers. Can't imagine the US left it unguarded.

Two out of three ain't bad?

Paradise by the dashboard light?


You took the words right out of my mouth.
 
2012-09-13 09:15:32 AM

doubled99: Muslims are no different than any other religion.
No, really.


cept for all the death and destruction

My have soon we forget...
drinkthis.typepad.com
but yea we are totaly just like the savages right?

/you make a good dhimmi
 
2012-09-13 09:15:48 AM

BgJonson79: Father_Jack: Baryogenesis: *Refresh*
Put right wing moron and/or troll on ignore
*Refresh*
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These threads are great for identifying the mouth breathers. Foreign policy is more nuanced and complicated than shoot first ask questions later and Muslim=bad.

"By giving us the opinions of the uneducated, it keeps us in touch with the ignorance of the community."
-Oscar Wilde

truer now than when he said it.

Fark.com: Giving mouthbreathers a stage and smart people the chance to monitor them since 2001.

Isn't it sorta a dangerous and slippery-slope thought to think that you need to "monitor" people you disagree with?


Let's extend that thought to Middle East foreign policy.
 
2012-09-13 09:16:01 AM

m2313: Lunaville: Yes, the over privileged teenagers who turn up from the suburbs at the Occupy events to knock over paper boxes are so very helpful.

I too enjoy men made of straw.
I could offer my personal anecdotes to the contrary, but they're no more relevant than yours.


You've demonstrated via your comments that you're an intelligent, thinking person. I think you understand that violence is not the way.
 
2012-09-13 09:16:17 AM

Joe Six-Keg: Submitted this with a worse headline.

No laughing matter. If it weren't obvious this was a planned assault, it is now. This is going to be very bad for some people.


Eh, this bunch heavily armed, like the Libyan attack?

Could just be spillover asshattery.
 
2012-09-13 09:16:36 AM

ScudEast: Insatiable Jesus: According to The Wall Street Journal, Bacile said he raised $5 million from about 100 Jewish donors to make the two-hour movie in California last year.
http://www.cnn.com/2012/09/12/world/anti-islam-film/index.html

That has to be bullshiat. There is no way anyone spent 5 million dollars on that. It looks like someone's very bad high school film studies project.


Dude, it says JEWISH donors. They'll spend whatever they need to, so long as it detracts attention from Israel's bad behavior.
 
2012-09-13 09:16:42 AM

Joe Blowme: vegasj: Joe Blowme: I read this morning there were no marines stationed in bengazi.

Well, surely there were local police or military. They don't have these place totally unguarded... unless I'm wrong.

remember, members of the same death cult that killed our people were incharge of security and CBS says they actively helped the attackers.


You mean the group of people who turn their guns on their trainers in Afghanistan actively helped the people who were assaulting the embassy?

color me shocked...
 
2012-09-13 09:17:11 AM

LawrencePerson: [www.battleswarmblog.com image 750x563]


Guess what, killer? That shiat goes on ALL THE TIME, no matter who our current homecoming queen is.
 
2012-09-13 09:17:15 AM
It's just a movie, Libyans. Get over it.

I don't even care that the CIA created it specifically to incite this kind of shiat. It's still just a movie. Get over it.
 
2012-09-13 09:17:23 AM

bakarocket: Waxing_Chewbacca: bakarocket: Waxing_Chewbacca: Don't want drones in your country? Join the world community and drag your sorry ass out of t ...

The fact that the strongest countries in the world can say inane shiat like that with impunity is a part of the problem.

The world is not a peaceful place. Repugnant? To say the people of Yeman need to rid themselves of terrorist or face the consequence? Repugnant to say the policy of drones is far preferable to Bush and boots on the ground? Wow. You live in a world created by the mind of a child.
Few knowledgable people deny that there are idiots everywhere. Why do you keep denying that your leaders aren't idiots, too? You understand that the fact that all of you are dirt-eating, cousin-farking hicks is exactly the problem?

You truncated my statement to fit your narrative. I'm supporting the President and I was responding to a statement that Yeman has reason to riot due to the drone strikes. They do not. We have interests to protect and they are a nation willing to be a Disney Resort for our most dreaded enemies. Your reply cut my statement down to a piece of one sentence. Don't be so dishonest in order to make your point.

I was replying to the entire piece, and quoting for brevity. Your entire point was repugnant. I don't need to rebut every sentence to illuminate the fact that people like you - and those attacking the embassies - are exactly the same, and are exactly the problem.

 
2012-09-13 09:18:37 AM

italie: So this is how WWIII starts...over a silly movie.

//Seems strangely appropriate.


WWI started with the death of one government official, it's not unheard of:

"Gavrilo Princip was a Bosnian Serb who assassinated Archduke Franz Ferdinand of Austria and his wife, Sophie, Duchess of Hohenberg, in Sarajevo on 28 June 1914. Princip and his accomplices were arrested and implicated a number of members of the Serbian military, leading Austria-Hungary to issue a démarche to Serbia known as the July Ultimatum. This set off a chain of events that led to World War I. Princip was a Yugoslav nationalist associated with the movement Mlada Bosna (Young Bosnia) which predominantly consisted of Serbs, but also Bosniaks and Croats. During his trial he stated "I am a Yugoslav nationalist, aiming for the unification of all Yugoslavs, and I do not care what form of state, but it must be free from Austria." 

Replace Yugoslavia with Islamic State and Austria with the United States. History repeating...yadda, yadda, yadda...
 
2012-09-13 09:19:03 AM

Sylvia_Bandersnatch: From now on, all stories related to this alleged film should use the Irony tag.

Irony because this whole thing arises from AN UNSUBSTANTIATED RUMOUR. We don't know if the film even exists at all. Yet all this anger and violence abounds due to RUMOURS SPREAD BY THE INTERNET. Sound at all familiar to anyone?

Anyone know any Americans like that? Americans who accept as fact, or at least plausibly likely, various rumours they hear online about various things or people they're predisposed to believe such things about -- to want to believe such things about, facts and verification be damned? And then act on those beliefs in their daily lives and politics?

This goes beyond the 'chickens come home to roost' argument (which is still valid for other reasons here); this bespeaks an entire species of knee-jerking morans who probably are not collectively prepared to meet the real future challenges of this world, who can't face the hard and unpleasant truths about themselves -- and thus fulfil the vital first step of real personal change and betterment, and who simply refuse to even contemplate the ego-busting possibility of being wrong about anything.

Think about this. This ENTIRE thing is built on a mountainous landfill of practically nothing, and reacting like tiny screaming babies to that practically nothing. Not just them -- us, too: a huge amount of the anti-Muslim fever in this country is also based on prejudice, rumour, and outright lies. Not every last shred, of course, but mostly. And the fact that so many Americans take their received wisdom about all this from doubtful sources -- and then actually make important decisions based on that -- is no better than what's happening over there.

So don't y'all get too smug or judgemental. We haven't stormed any embassies lately, that's true. But when it comes to evaluating facts and deciding how to respond based on what we 'know,' we're not batting much better than anyone else.


super well said!

And no, we dont storm embassies when bad things happen to us, we make mistakes on a good ol AMERICAN scale.

Libyans get pissed off at the West for something? Raid an embassy.
Americans get pissed off at al Qaeda? Invade Iraq and kill 100,000 iraqis.

Because, hey, we "took the gloves off" and "grew some brass balls" and "[other overly simplicistic metaphor indicating manliness]", who cares if it was against the wrong people.
 
2012-09-13 09:19:37 AM

Sgt Stubby: ThrobblefootSpectre: the historical Muhammad actually was a rather violent, though militarily successful, warlord.


If he ever existed, that is. The evidence points to 'prophet' mohammad actually being a composite character (much like those in the book that bill ayers wrote for fartbongo). Most of the koran is just re-hashed stuff from the Bible. They couldn't even come up with new characters. The rest, as is widely agreed, is incomprehensible babble.

It is to religion what kwanzaa is to Christmas. But we can't talk about that. 


/btw, why is everyone forced to say and write 'prophet mohammad' when discussing islam but not Lord Jesus when referencing Christianity? Oh, I forgot. Islam might get angry... and people could die.


You do realize that Christ wasn't his last name don't you?
 
2012-09-13 09:19:49 AM

HotIgneous Intruder: Or else what?


In all seriousness, that is the question. Just like dealing with the modern GOP, NIMBY environmentalists, Occupiers, etc... how does one deal with the recalcitrant obstructionist who wants no compromise, no solutions, etc? Strongly worded letters do nothing, drones do take out bad guys (but at a cost both financially and in the eyes of the innocent who are affected). Glass parking lot isn't a practical solution. Pulling out completely (foreign aid, diplomats, military) simply will create a vacuum for bad people with guns who aren't afraid to use them to take over. I'm just farking sick of religious and political zealots on both sides constantly being butthurt and offering no solutions or compromise.

Personally, I'm all for getting off of middle eastern oil then telling them to go fark themselves. I realize this is not a practical solution in the real world, however.
 
2012-09-13 09:20:07 AM

Sylvia_Bandersnatch: Irony because this whole thing arises from AN UNSUBSTANTIATED RUMOUR. We don't know if the film even exists at all. Yet all this anger and violence abounds due to RUMOURS SPREAD BY THE INTERNET. Sound at all familiar to anyone?


Well a twelve-minute trailer certainly exists. I watched it last night.
 
2012-09-13 09:20:22 AM

Waxing_Chewbacca: jakomo002: Joe Blowme: Lesser of 2 evils, strongman of islamic pshychos... i have to go with the strongman who will keep savages in check. Besides, they drew first blood in 1790's, Barbary Pirates and all that so can we just point to that as justification to kill them? Or can we go back further and blame the taking of Vienna? Or Spain? Ect...,

Dude, I'm sorry. I didn't even realize I was arguing with crazy person. Sorry, and seek help for your obvious mental illness.

Waxing_Chewbacca: I understand and agree. But those who turn to terrorism must blown off the face off the planet. Drones are a surgical method of doing what must be done. So grow the fark and understand there are no absolutes in foreign policy. I'm also done with you until you can post my entire statement and not cut only what you wish to use to make your point. Oh... And this... The far-right AND the far-left have one important thing in common. An inability to understand that dogmatic adherence to ideology will very likely get us all killed.

It's very very well -documented that when you go hogwild with drones, massacring innocents accidentally to get to your "primary suspect", the survivors HATE you and will try to enact revenge. Or their neighbours will. Or their family. Or their in-laws.

Drones might kill a few "suspected militants", but they create far more "terrorists". Put yourself in their shoes.

"well, it looks like a US drone hit the wedding party, killed the guy they were looking for and also accidentally bruned my 4 children to death. Let's get to work on making some new kids, wifey."

No, they arm and find ways to enact revenge, which is VERY big in those areas.

Boots on the ground would have been Presidents Bush 2"s position. Which is and was insane. This seems to make more sense. Or you would allow these terrorist who are using yeman as a base to live in peace and kill at will? Smart foreign policy you got there. If the peaceful people of Yeman want peace they can always decide not to tolerate the cold blooded killers who live amongst them. You have no ideas. You have coca-cola "I'd like to teach the world to sing" foreign policy.


Small scale, precise strikes with, say, Navy SEALS are vastly preferable to "boots on the ground" GW Bush style war. But I think the point there was that even drone strikes against known terrorists have backlash and unintended consequences.
 
2012-09-13 09:20:49 AM
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2012-09-13 09:21:36 AM

BgJonson79: Why in the world would we need to give a bunch of Jewish people nuclear weapons when they were the ones who farking built them?


I assume you're alluding to the Jewish heritage of the scientists on the Manhattan Project. None of those guys ever owned a bomb personally. They were employees of the US Government. Israel didn't have the manufacturing ability to produce atomic bombs at the time and did not until the late 1960s. Why would they bother if Uncle Sugar has already done the heavy lifting for them?
 
2012-09-13 09:22:25 AM

Baryogenesis: BgJonson79: Father_Jack: Baryogenesis: *Refresh*
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These threads are great for identifying the mouth breathers. Foreign policy is more nuanced and complicated than shoot first ask questions later and Muslim=bad.

"By giving us the opinions of the uneducated, it keeps us in touch with the ignorance of the community."
-Oscar Wilde

truer now than when he said it.

Fark.com: Giving mouthbreathers a stage and smart people the chance to monitor them since 2001.

Isn't it sorta a dangerous and slippery-slope thought to think that you need to "monitor" people you disagree with?

Let's extend that thought to Middle East foreign policy.


I was separating out the idea of monitoring people in your jurisdiction with a foreign policy/military decision... but you knew that ;-)
 
2012-09-13 09:22:34 AM

robohobo: ScudEast: Insatiable Jesus: According to The Wall Street Journal, Bacile said he raised $5 million from about 100 Jewish donors to make the two-hour movie in California last year.
http://www.cnn.com/2012/09/12/world/anti-islam-film/index.html

That has to be bullshiat. There is no way anyone spent 5 million dollars on that. It looks like someone's very bad high school film studies project.

Dude, it says JEWISH donors. They'll spend whatever they need to, so long as it detracts attention from Israel's bad behavior.


Continuing with your presumably sarcastic racism, surely Jews a) Know how to make films and b) Don't waste money :D
 
2012-09-13 09:23:33 AM

fusillade762: Why does the Islamic world seem to susceptible to trolling? Can we turn that to our advantage?


No matter how low the percentage of morons is, the larger the demographic gets the more morons you get. The Muslim demographic is huge so... Plus you get the jerks that aren't even part of the demographic but will jump in just because it's an opportunity to break shiat and get away with it.
 
2012-09-13 09:23:43 AM

Baryogenesis: You're free to blather whatever derp you like. I'm free to ignore it in favor of intelligent discussion. You're just proving the case that conservatives think criticism is equivalent to censorship.


What you call derp I call opinions. What I call YOUR derp, you call it your "criticism".

So while the right thinking of mine is an opinion... you either choose to ignore it, call it derp, and criticize it rather than offering any kind of intelligent discussion. A bit hypocritical don't ya think?

 
2012-09-13 09:24:20 AM

HotIgneous Intruder: BgJonson79: Why in the world would we need to give a bunch of Jewish people nuclear weapons when they were the ones who farking built them?

I assume you're alluding to the Jewish heritage of the scientists on the Manhattan Project. None of those guys ever owned a bomb personally. They were employees of the US Government. Israel didn't have the manufacturing ability to produce atomic bombs at the time and did not until the late 1960s. Why would they bother if Uncle Sugar has already done the heavy lifting for them?


I'd argue the physics done 20 years earlier was the heavy lifting.

Besides, Israel is under no obligation not to have them. They never signed the NNPT.
 
2012-09-13 09:26:04 AM

Waxing_Chewbacca: Boots on the ground would have been Presidents Bush 2"s position. Which is and was insane. This seems to make more sense. Or you would allow these terrorist who are using yeman as a base to live in peace and kill at will? Smart foreign policy you got there. If the peaceful people of Yeman want peace they can always decide not to tolerate the cold blooded killers who live amongst them. You have no ideas. You have coca-cola "I'd like to teach the world to sing" foreign policy.


HAHA! Yeah, if the Yemenis don't want the heavily armed militants to stay, they should just stroll over and ask them to please leave. Haha.

A lot of this is people's reactions to drone strikes and military intervention, so your suggestion is to use drones and military intervention to stop it.

That is rich, buddy. Not very well thought-out, but rich.

My suggestion is to be less paranoid and less cowardly. Yemen is hardly a threat to the USA, and the only Americans they'll kill are there in Yemen. So get them out and leave the country alone.

Your "nation-building" skills are atrocious.
 
2012-09-13 09:27:22 AM

Joe Blowme: remember, members of the same death cult that killed our people were incharge of security and CBS says they actively helped the attackers.


yea... because we should all believe anything our media pours out. I can't believe they actually think people... oh, wait... some WILL believe that horseshiat

 
2012-09-13 09:29:55 AM
A worldwide zombie apocalypse would solve all of this.


Here's hoping.

/seriously, it would be awesome, if only to see peoples I don't like perish, even if I ended up in the belly of a brownie
//has near a million rounds
 
2012-09-13 09:31:31 AM
Fark.com: Giving mouthbreathers a stage and smart people the chance to monitor them since 2001.


Ahahahahahahahahahahahaha!
Awesome. Arrogant and stupid at the same time. Truly, welcome to Fark.
 
2012-09-13 09:32:17 AM
If I were paranoid, I'd say Rove put the video together.
 
2012-09-13 09:33:01 AM

Baryogenesis: Small scale, precise strikes with, say, Navy SEALS are vastly preferable to "boots on the ground" GW Bush style war. But I think the point there was that even drone strikes against known terrorists have backlash and unintended consequences.


That might work. But I would even suggest using trained and trusted Yemenis to do the heavy lifting. No US troops whatsoever.

It gives Yemenis the sense that they are in control of their own destiny and avoids inevitable problems (if the Yemenis pee on a corpse or burn a Koran it's THEIR problem, and doesn't foment anti-U.S. sentiments amongst the local population.)
 
2012-09-13 09:33:01 AM
How about we put these.
upload.wikimedia.org

On top of these.

www.ronarons.com

To use only on people doing this.

msnbcmedia.msn.com


That's not wrong? is it?
 
2012-09-13 09:33:15 AM

vegasj: Baryogenesis: You're free to blather whatever derp you like. I'm free to ignore it in favor of intelligent discussion. You're just proving the case that conservatives think criticism is equivalent to censorship.

What you call derp I call opinions. What I call YOUR derp, you call it your "criticism".

So while the right thinking of mine is an opinion... you either choose to ignore it, call it derp, and criticize it rather than offering any kind of intelligent discussion. A bit hypocritical don't ya think?


I think it's telling that when I said I was putting right wing trolls on ignore you took offense. By the way, your initial comment in the thread was about "Obama's apology". Pot meet kettle.

Would you like to try for intelligent discussion again?

BgJonson79: I was separating out the idea of monitoring people in your jurisdiction with a foreign policy/military decision... but you knew that ;-)


I don't see how it's all that different. Is it prudent to monitor potential threats?
 
2012-09-13 09:33:17 AM

BgJonson79: Father_Jack: Baryogenesis: *Refresh*
Put right wing moron and/or troll on ignore
*Refresh*
Put right wing moron and/or troll on ignore
*Refresh*

These threads are great for identifying the mouth breathers. Foreign policy is more nuanced and complicated than shoot first ask questions later and Muslim=bad.

"By giving us the opinions of the uneducated, it keeps us in touch with the ignorance of the community."
-Oscar Wilde

truer now than when he said it.

Fark.com: Giving mouthbreathers a stage and smart people the chance to monitor them since 2001.

Isn't it sorta a dangerous and slippery-slope thought to think that you need to "monitor" people you disagree with?


No, not at all.

I think its important to understand what people I don't agree with are thinking and why, it helps explain what is to me at times completely illogical.

Every now and again amongst all the angry chickenhawks and badly informed redstaters, there'll be one who will really try to lay it out and explain why he or she thinks x or y, and that stuff is really good to know. It helps keep a human face on stupid, remind me that we all basically want the same things and that Americans fundamentally disagree because of the quality of information we base decisions on.

Some people choose to put decent information into their heads, and can reason accordingly and make good decisions. Others willfully put bad information into their heads and make logical conclusions from that bad information. And then the final, smallest and most unreachable set are both stupid AND put bad information into their heads, and aren't able to make anything BUT bad decisions. These are the people like Thunderpipes and Bevets. People from the other groups are worth listening to.
 
2012-09-13 09:33:48 AM

BgJonson79: I'd argue the physics done 20 years earlier was the heavy lifting.


Then you'd be wrong.
It's nothing knowing the theory of how a nuclear bomb works.
A school kid can learn that.
It's everything knowing exactly how to build a nuclear bomb and what materials to use and how to produce those materials to the proper tolerances.
Read up on the Manhattan Project sometime.
 
2012-09-13 09:34:27 AM

One Big Ass Mistake America: [i.imgur.com image 700x524]


Derrrrrr. Obama would have done what he did here, the ships and drones are on the way as we speak. Unlike Bush, Obama will make sure that we have correctly identified the perps, then kill them dead. Bush just invaded a random unrelated country months later and let the perp go free.
 
2012-09-13 09:34:28 AM
Irate movie critics are storming our embassies in alphabetical order!

Alert Harare, Zimbabwe!
 
2012-09-13 09:35:33 AM
The trolls are out in force, huh?.
 
2012-09-13 09:35:52 AM
sheesh, just nuke 'em....you see the japanese don't bother us anymore; they actually make all the stuff we use on a daily basis now ;)
 
2012-09-13 09:35:58 AM

HotIgneous Intruder: BgJonson79: I'd argue the physics done 20 years earlier was the heavy lifting.

Then you'd be wrong.
It's nothing knowing the theory of how a nuclear bomb works.
A school kid can learn that.
It's everything knowing exactly how to build a nuclear bomb and what materials to use and how to produce those materials to the proper tolerances.
Read up on the Manhattan Project sometime.


I thought you only needed a city with access to uranium. Although, the downside is that nuclear weapons are then unlocked for all civilizations.
 
2012-09-13 09:36:04 AM

One Big Ass Mistake America: [i.imgur.com image 700x524]


You're living in a different reality, aren't you?
 
2012-09-13 09:36:09 AM
They can stop hating our freedom now. We don't have any left.
 
2012-09-13 09:36:20 AM

Baryogenesis: Waxing_Chewbacca: jakomo002: Joe Blowme: Lesser of 2 evils, strongman of islamic pshychos... i have to go with the strongman who will keep savages in check. Besides, they drew first blood in 1790's, Barbary Pirates and all that so can we just point to that as justification to kill them? Or can we go back further and blame the taking of Vienna? Or Spain? Ect...,

Dude, I'm sorry. I didn't even realize I was arguing with crazy person. Sorry, and seek help for your obvious mental illness.

Waxing_Chewbacca: I understand and agree. But those who turn to terrorism must blown off the face off the planet. Drones are a surgical method of doing what must be done. So grow the fark and understand there are no absolutes in foreign policy. I'm also done with you until you can post my entire statement and not cut only what you wish to use to make your point. Oh... And this... The far-right AND the far-left have one important thing in common. An inability to understand that dogmatic adherence to ideology will very likely get us all killed.

It's very very well -documented that when you go hogwild with drones, massacring innocents accidentally to get to your "primary suspect", the survivors HATE you and will try to enact revenge. Or their neighbours will. Or their family. Or their in-laws.

Drones might kill a few "suspected militants", but they create far more "terrorists". Put yourself in their shoes.

"well, it looks like a US drone hit the wedding party, killed the guy they were looking for and also accidentally bruned my 4 children to death. Let's get to work on making some new kids, wifey."

No, they arm and find ways to enact revenge, which is VERY big in those areas.

Boots on the ground would have been Presidents Bush 2"s position. Which is and was insane. This seems to make more sense. Or you would allow these terrorist who are using yeman as a base to live in peace and kill at will? Smart foreign policy you got there. If the peaceful people of Yeman want ...


Seals are not always possible. You do not Put American lives at risk to ensure the lives of an equal number of innocents. Harsh but this is the real world.
 
2012-09-13 09:38:45 AM

Waxing_Chewbacca: Seals are not always possible. You do not Put American lives at risk to ensure the lives of an equal number of innocents. Harsh but this is the real world.


Naturally. That was just an example. Using SEALS to take down Osama instead of invading an entire nation.

Still, the point stands that even drone strikes have negative effects that must be factored into our decision making.
 
2012-09-13 09:39:14 AM
Coming up on CNN next: Controversial film's actress speaks out.

/She's probably hot.
 
2012-09-13 09:39:31 AM

jakomo002: Waxing_Chewbacca: Boots on the ground would have been Presidents Bush 2"s position. Which is and was insane. This seems to make more sense. Or you would allow these terrorist who are using yeman as a base to live in peace and kill at will? Smart foreign policy you got there. If the peaceful people of Yeman want peace they can always decide not to tolerate the cold blooded killers who live amongst them. You have no ideas. You have coca-cola "I'd like to teach the world to sing" foreign policy.

HAHA! Yeah, if the Yemenis don't want the heavily armed militants to stay, they should just stroll over and ask them to please leave. Haha.

A lot of this is people's reactions to drone strikes and military intervention, so your suggestion is to use drones and military intervention to stop it.

That is rich, buddy. Not very well thought-out, but rich.

My suggestion is to be less paranoid and less cowardly. Yemen is hardly a threat to the USA, and the only Americans they'll kill are there in Yemen. So get them out and leave the country alone.

Your "nation-building" skills are atrocious.


Answer the question. What would be your policy... Buddy. Yeman is not a threat. Correct. The terrorist there-in are. What would you do?
 
2012-09-13 09:39:37 AM

fluffy2097: How about we put these.
[upload.wikimedia.org image 850x543]

On top of these.

[www.ronarons.com image 288x384]

To use only on people doing this.

[msnbcmedia.msn.com image 456x342]


That's not wrong? is it?


You want to throw a Volkswagen at them? Does it transform like Bumblebee?
 
2012-09-13 09:41:22 AM
Tinfoil material:

Got me thinking, what if the Republicans contacted terrorist cells to use this against Obama, and win the elections?
 
2012-09-13 09:41:43 AM

Baryogenesis: I thought you only needed a city with access to uranium. Although, the downside is that nuclear weapons are then unlocked for all civilizations.


Yeah, it's that easy.
Just fill a soda can with uranium ore, pack it tight, then run over it with a pickup truck or moped.
 
2012-09-13 09:42:18 AM
Actress is claiming she was duped into acting in the stupid movie.
 
2012-09-13 09:43:13 AM

Baryogenesis: Waxing_Chewbacca: Seals are not always possible. You do not Put American lives at risk to ensure the lives of an equal number of innocents. Harsh but this is the real world.

Naturally. That was just an example. Using SEALS to take down Osama instead of invading an entire nation.

Still, the point stands that even drone strikes have negative effects that must be factored into our decision making.


I don't disagree with that at all. There are some here who say they must never be used, however, which is a frighteningly childish way to look at the middle east. We likely agree on much more than you might think. I just get tired of the black or white foreign policy of the far right and left. Presidents like Clinton, Obama and, yes, Bush 1 are far preferable in that they had degrees of nuance and reacted to each situation not through a faithfulness to ideaology but to pragmatism.
 
2012-09-13 09:43:37 AM

AverageAmericanGuy: Who benefits the most from an America that is outraged at Islamists?


Civilization.
 
2012-09-13 09:43:39 AM
farking ragheads. What a bunch of worthless piles of shiat. Religion of peace strikes again.
 
2012-09-13 09:44:19 AM

Waxing_Chewbacca: Seals are not always possible. You do not Put American lives at risk to ensure the lives of an equal number of innocents. Harsh but this is the real world.


And that is why you will never win the "War On Terror". You are fighting people who are willing to sacrifice everything they have to beat you, and you don't have the stomach to be on the other end of a bloody massacre.

"20 children killed in a drone strike in Yemen? Well shiat, son, them's the costs of war. Collateral damage as they say."

"4 Americans killed in Libya? OMIGOD WAAAAH! What are we going to do omigod those poor peoiple."

Sickening, really. Grow a pair of testicles and also realize that American lives are as important or unimportant as those you yourselves erase.
 
2012-09-13 09:45:04 AM

Waxing_Chewbacca: I just get tired of the black or white foreign policy of the far right and left. Presidents like Clinton, Obama and, yes, Bush 1 are far preferable in that they had degrees of nuance and reacted to each situation not through a faithfulness to ideaology but to pragmatism.


How do you nuance a situation where there is a knife coming at your neck if you don't leave?
 
2012-09-13 09:45:57 AM

CygnusDarius: The trolls are out in force, huh?.


CygnusDarius: Tinfoil material:

Got me thinking, what if the Republicans contacted terrorist cells to use this against Obama, and win the elections?


Oh look, your right
 
2012-09-13 09:46:11 AM

jakomo002: Waxing_Chewbacca: Seals are not always possible. You do not Put American lives at risk to ensure the lives of an equal number of innocents. Harsh but this is the real world.

And that is why you will never win the "War On Terror". You are fighting people who are willing to sacrifice everything they have to beat you, and you don't have the stomach to be on the other end of a bloody massacre.

"20 children killed in a drone strike in Yemen? Well shiat, son, them's the costs of war. Collateral damage as they say."

"4 Americans killed in Libya? OMIGOD WAAAAH! What are we going to do omigod those poor peoiple."

Sickening, really. Grow a pair of testicles and also realize that American lives are as important or unimportant as those you yourselves erase.


Answer the farking question. Terrorist in Yeman plotting to kill Americans. You do what?! Answer the farking question or expose yourself as the shallow thinker you are.
 
2012-09-13 09:46:12 AM

fluffy2097: How about we put these.
[upload.wikimedia.org image 850x543]

On top of these.

[www.ronarons.com image 288x384]

To use only on people doing this.

[msnbcmedia.msn.com image 456x342]


That's not wrong? is it?


Just to entertain the "how would I defend an embassy" scenario for a moment...kinda overkill. why not just a browning 50cal?
 
2012-09-13 09:46:20 AM
I have an elegant solution from a more civilized age.

mimg.ugo.com
We send Edward Norton over there, line all these assholes up along the curb, and just go down the line stomping heads.
 
2012-09-13 09:46:21 AM

jakomo002: Waxing_Chewbacca: Seals are not always possible. You do not Put American lives at risk to ensure the lives of an equal number of innocents. Harsh but this is the real world.

And that is why you will never win the "War On Terror". You are fighting people who are willing to sacrifice everything they have to beat you, and you don't have the stomach to be on the other end of a bloody massacre.

"20 children killed in a drone strike in Yemen? Well shiat, son, them's the costs of war. Collateral damage as they say."

"4 Americans killed in Libya? OMIGOD WAAAAH! What are we going to do omigod those poor peoiple."

Sickening, really. Grow a pair of testicles and also realize that American lives are as important or unimportant as those you yourselves erase.


Sadly, this.
 
2012-09-13 09:46:26 AM

This text is now purple: AverageAmericanGuy: Who benefits the most from an America that is outraged at Islamists?

Civilization.


There is that aspect, since we're being nuanced and sophisticated here.
 
2012-09-13 09:47:31 AM

HotIgneous Intruder: Actress is claiming she was duped into acting in the stupid movie.


I'm pretty sure this must be the first non-porn film that has this scenario. Hopefully there was at least a "casting couch."
 
2012-09-13 09:47:34 AM

Father_Jack: Just to entertain the "how would I defend an embassy" scenario for a moment...kinda overkill. why not just a browning 50cal?


Two Marines with rifles would solve that climbing-the-fence problem.
 
2012-09-13 09:48:10 AM

CreampuffCasperMilktoast: HotIgneous Intruder: Actress is claiming she was duped into acting in the stupid movie.

I'm pretty sure this must be the first non-porn film that has this scenario. Hopefully there was at least a "casting couch."


She wasn't that hot, actually.
 
2012-09-13 09:48:16 AM
And this is how the civilization as we know it, ends.
 
2012-09-13 09:48:31 AM

Giltric: And when they throw acid in a womans face because some man looked at her.....it must be due to some movie that came out also.



Why you gotta bring Brazil into this?
 
2012-09-13 09:48:48 AM

Waxing_Chewbacca: jakomo002: Waxing_Chewbacca: Boots on the ground would have been Presidents Bush 2"s position. Which is and was insane. This seems to make more sense. Or you would allow these terrorist who are using yeman as a base to live in peace and kill at will? Smart foreign policy you got there. If the peaceful people of Yeman want peace they can always decide not to tolerate the cold blooded killers who live amongst them. You have no ideas. You have coca-cola "I'd like to teach the world to sing" foreign policy.

HAHA! Yeah, if the Yemenis don't want the heavily armed militants to stay, they should just stroll over and ask them to please leave. Haha.

A lot of this is people's reactions to drone strikes and military intervention, so your suggestion is to use drones and military intervention to stop it.

That is rich, buddy. Not very well thought-out, but rich.

My suggestion is to be less paranoid and less cowardly. Yemen is hardly a threat to the USA, and the only Americans they'll kill are there in Yemen. So get them out and leave the country alone.

Your "nation-building" skills are atrocious.

Answer the question. What would be your policy... Buddy. Yeman is not a threat. Correct. The terrorist there-in are. What would you do?


1. End all military aid to Yemen and her neighbors.
2. Issue an advisory against traveling to or doing business in Yemen. Make it clear to American owned companies that they will receive no support, no protection, no intervention if doing business in Yemen becomes problematic.
3. Issue same advisory to NGOs.
4. Maintain or increase humanitarian aid to Yemen as conditions indicate.
5. Invest heavily in wind and solar energy. Invest in hybrid and electric cars. Increase efficiency standards. Invest in mass transit. Seek ways to move our nation from dependency on the one thing that most motivates us to entangle ourselves in the affairs of nations like Yemen.

I know it could be more detailed, but no one wants to be bored to tears by my garrulous ideas on Fark.
 
2012-09-13 09:49:31 AM

Beauf: As someone who has spent a considerable amount of time in the Middle East I would like to say the following: if you think to yourself that it might be a good idea to intentionally incite people to volence against Americans please at least have the balls to go over there and do it to their faces. I got shot at a lot because of people like you and I do not appreciate it. Your God should protect you because yours is right and theirs is wrong, right?


Do you need someone to bring you your brown pants?
 
2012-09-13 09:52:11 AM

SuperT: ya know, I say just one of these shiat bird dirt holes we should just pick to treat like the romans would. Just say "I'm tired of putting up with your retarded horse shiat, you either come on board, be americans and be cool or we go full 13 legion on your ass". No occupation, just kill the opposition and get on with your day. Remind them that we treat these little pissant extremist with kid gloves because we don't want to hurt the innocent people they hide amoung.


Well aren't you one tough muthafarker.
 
2012-09-13 09:52:34 AM

HotIgneous Intruder: Waxing_Chewbacca: I just get tired of the black or white foreign policy of the far right and left. Presidents like Clinton, Obama and, yes, Bush 1 are far preferable in that they had degrees of nuance and reacted to each situation not through a faithfulness to ideaology but to pragmatism.

How do you nuance a situation where there is a knife coming at your neck if you don't leave?


I think a nuanced response would require more details than the example you give. The poster I was responding to seems to feel that the people of Yeman are justified in their protest. That they are justified due to drone strikes. I say they should be protesting their own governments attitude toward the terrorist who are allowed to thrive there and thus necessitate the drone strikes. The poster in question does not appear to think that there are actually terrorist in the middle east and thus is painting me as a right wing nut. I have never and would never vote for a Republican in this day in age (Bill Weld was last guy I could even consider). The point is is that every situation requires a response proportional to the threat while keeping in mind larger goals and protecting American lives. So.... What knife and who are we talking about exactly in your example?
 
2012-09-13 09:52:45 AM

Father_Jack: Just to entertain the "how would I defend an embassy" scenario for a moment...kinda overkill. why not just a browning 50cal?


Nothing makes a man reconsider his life choices like 30mm explosive shells being delivered at 4200 rounds a minute.

A 50 cal just sounds like a gun. These people are used to gunfire. Time to bring something to the table that will literally vaporiz