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2012-09-13 09:15:32 AM  

doubled99: Muslims are no different than any other religion.
No, really.


cept for all the death and destruction

My have soon we forget...
drinkthis.typepad.com
but yea we are totaly just like the savages right?

/you make a good dhimmi
 
2012-09-13 09:15:48 AM  

BgJonson79: Father_Jack: Baryogenesis: *Refresh*
Put right wing moron and/or troll on ignore
*Refresh*
Put right wing moron and/or troll on ignore
*Refresh*

These threads are great for identifying the mouth breathers. Foreign policy is more nuanced and complicated than shoot first ask questions later and Muslim=bad.

"By giving us the opinions of the uneducated, it keeps us in touch with the ignorance of the community."
-Oscar Wilde

truer now than when he said it.

Fark.com: Giving mouthbreathers a stage and smart people the chance to monitor them since 2001.

Isn't it sorta a dangerous and slippery-slope thought to think that you need to "monitor" people you disagree with?


Let's extend that thought to Middle East foreign policy.
 
2012-09-13 09:16:01 AM  

m2313: Lunaville: Yes, the over privileged teenagers who turn up from the suburbs at the Occupy events to knock over paper boxes are so very helpful.

I too enjoy men made of straw.
I could offer my personal anecdotes to the contrary, but they're no more relevant than yours.


You've demonstrated via your comments that you're an intelligent, thinking person. I think you understand that violence is not the way.
 
2012-09-13 09:16:17 AM  

Joe Six-Keg: Submitted this with a worse headline.

No laughing matter. If it weren't obvious this was a planned assault, it is now. This is going to be very bad for some people.


Eh, this bunch heavily armed, like the Libyan attack?

Could just be spillover asshattery.
 
2012-09-13 09:16:36 AM  

ScudEast: Insatiable Jesus: According to The Wall Street Journal, Bacile said he raised $5 million from about 100 Jewish donors to make the two-hour movie in California last year.
http://www.cnn.com/2012/09/12/world/anti-islam-film/index.html

That has to be bullshiat. There is no way anyone spent 5 million dollars on that. It looks like someone's very bad high school film studies project.


Dude, it says JEWISH donors. They'll spend whatever they need to, so long as it detracts attention from Israel's bad behavior.
 
2012-09-13 09:16:42 AM  

Joe Blowme: vegasj: Joe Blowme: I read this morning there were no marines stationed in bengazi.

Well, surely there were local police or military. They don't have these place totally unguarded... unless I'm wrong.

remember, members of the same death cult that killed our people were incharge of security and CBS says they actively helped the attackers.


You mean the group of people who turn their guns on their trainers in Afghanistan actively helped the people who were assaulting the embassy?

color me shocked...
 
2012-09-13 09:17:11 AM  

LawrencePerson: [www.battleswarmblog.com image 750x563]


Guess what, killer? That shiat goes on ALL THE TIME, no matter who our current homecoming queen is.
 
2012-09-13 09:17:15 AM  
It's just a movie, Libyans. Get over it.

I don't even care that the CIA created it specifically to incite this kind of shiat. It's still just a movie. Get over it.
 
2012-09-13 09:17:23 AM  

bakarocket: Waxing_Chewbacca: bakarocket: Waxing_Chewbacca: Don't want drones in your country? Join the world community and drag your sorry ass out of t ...

The fact that the strongest countries in the world can say inane shiat like that with impunity is a part of the problem.

The world is not a peaceful place. Repugnant? To say the people of Yeman need to rid themselves of terrorist or face the consequence? Repugnant to say the policy of drones is far preferable to Bush and boots on the ground? Wow. You live in a world created by the mind of a child.
Few knowledgable people deny that there are idiots everywhere. Why do you keep denying that your leaders aren't idiots, too? You understand that the fact that all of you are dirt-eating, cousin-farking hicks is exactly the problem?

You truncated my statement to fit your narrative. I'm supporting the President and I was responding to a statement that Yeman has reason to riot due to the drone strikes. They do not. We have interests to protect and they are a nation willing to be a Disney Resort for our most dreaded enemies. Your reply cut my statement down to a piece of one sentence. Don't be so dishonest in order to make your point.

I was replying to the entire piece, and quoting for brevity. Your entire point was repugnant. I don't need to rebut every sentence to illuminate the fact that people like you - and those attacking the embassies - are exactly the same, and are exactly the problem.

 
2012-09-13 09:18:37 AM  

italie: So this is how WWIII starts...over a silly movie.

//Seems strangely appropriate.


WWI started with the death of one government official, it's not unheard of:

"Gavrilo Princip was a Bosnian Serb who assassinated Archduke Franz Ferdinand of Austria and his wife, Sophie, Duchess of Hohenberg, in Sarajevo on 28 June 1914. Princip and his accomplices were arrested and implicated a number of members of the Serbian military, leading Austria-Hungary to issue a démarche to Serbia known as the July Ultimatum. This set off a chain of events that led to World War I. Princip was a Yugoslav nationalist associated with the movement Mlada Bosna (Young Bosnia) which predominantly consisted of Serbs, but also Bosniaks and Croats. During his trial he stated "I am a Yugoslav nationalist, aiming for the unification of all Yugoslavs, and I do not care what form of state, but it must be free from Austria." 

Replace Yugoslavia with Islamic State and Austria with the United States. History repeating...yadda, yadda, yadda...
 
2012-09-13 09:19:03 AM  

Sylvia_Bandersnatch: From now on, all stories related to this alleged film should use the Irony tag.

Irony because this whole thing arises from AN UNSUBSTANTIATED RUMOUR. We don't know if the film even exists at all. Yet all this anger and violence abounds due to RUMOURS SPREAD BY THE INTERNET. Sound at all familiar to anyone?

Anyone know any Americans like that? Americans who accept as fact, or at least plausibly likely, various rumours they hear online about various things or people they're predisposed to believe such things about -- to want to believe such things about, facts and verification be damned? And then act on those beliefs in their daily lives and politics?

This goes beyond the 'chickens come home to roost' argument (which is still valid for other reasons here); this bespeaks an entire species of knee-jerking morans who probably are not collectively prepared to meet the real future challenges of this world, who can't face the hard and unpleasant truths about themselves -- and thus fulfil the vital first step of real personal change and betterment, and who simply refuse to even contemplate the ego-busting possibility of being wrong about anything.

Think about this. This ENTIRE thing is built on a mountainous landfill of practically nothing, and reacting like tiny screaming babies to that practically nothing. Not just them -- us, too: a huge amount of the anti-Muslim fever in this country is also based on prejudice, rumour, and outright lies. Not every last shred, of course, but mostly. And the fact that so many Americans take their received wisdom about all this from doubtful sources -- and then actually make important decisions based on that -- is no better than what's happening over there.

So don't y'all get too smug or judgemental. We haven't stormed any embassies lately, that's true. But when it comes to evaluating facts and deciding how to respond based on what we 'know,' we're not batting much better than anyone else.


super well said!

And no, we dont storm embassies when bad things happen to us, we make mistakes on a good ol AMERICAN scale.

Libyans get pissed off at the West for something? Raid an embassy.
Americans get pissed off at al Qaeda? Invade Iraq and kill 100,000 iraqis.

Because, hey, we "took the gloves off" and "grew some brass balls" and "[other overly simplicistic metaphor indicating manliness]", who cares if it was against the wrong people.
 
2012-09-13 09:19:37 AM  

Sgt Stubby: ThrobblefootSpectre: the historical Muhammad actually was a rather violent, though militarily successful, warlord.


If he ever existed, that is. The evidence points to 'prophet' mohammad actually being a composite character (much like those in the book that bill ayers wrote for fartbongo). Most of the koran is just re-hashed stuff from the Bible. They couldn't even come up with new characters. The rest, as is widely agreed, is incomprehensible babble.

It is to religion what kwanzaa is to Christmas. But we can't talk about that. 


/btw, why is everyone forced to say and write 'prophet mohammad' when discussing islam but not Lord Jesus when referencing Christianity? Oh, I forgot. Islam might get angry... and people could die.


You do realize that Christ wasn't his last name don't you?
 
2012-09-13 09:19:49 AM  

HotIgneous Intruder: Or else what?


In all seriousness, that is the question. Just like dealing with the modern GOP, NIMBY environmentalists, Occupiers, etc... how does one deal with the recalcitrant obstructionist who wants no compromise, no solutions, etc? Strongly worded letters do nothing, drones do take out bad guys (but at a cost both financially and in the eyes of the innocent who are affected). Glass parking lot isn't a practical solution. Pulling out completely (foreign aid, diplomats, military) simply will create a vacuum for bad people with guns who aren't afraid to use them to take over. I'm just farking sick of religious and political zealots on both sides constantly being butthurt and offering no solutions or compromise.

Personally, I'm all for getting off of middle eastern oil then telling them to go fark themselves. I realize this is not a practical solution in the real world, however.
 
2012-09-13 09:20:07 AM  

Sylvia_Bandersnatch: Irony because this whole thing arises from AN UNSUBSTANTIATED RUMOUR. We don't know if the film even exists at all. Yet all this anger and violence abounds due to RUMOURS SPREAD BY THE INTERNET. Sound at all familiar to anyone?


Well a twelve-minute trailer certainly exists. I watched it last night.
 
2012-09-13 09:20:22 AM  

Waxing_Chewbacca: jakomo002: Joe Blowme: Lesser of 2 evils, strongman of islamic pshychos... i have to go with the strongman who will keep savages in check. Besides, they drew first blood in 1790's, Barbary Pirates and all that so can we just point to that as justification to kill them? Or can we go back further and blame the taking of Vienna? Or Spain? Ect...,

Dude, I'm sorry. I didn't even realize I was arguing with crazy person. Sorry, and seek help for your obvious mental illness.

Waxing_Chewbacca: I understand and agree. But those who turn to terrorism must blown off the face off the planet. Drones are a surgical method of doing what must be done. So grow the fark and understand there are no absolutes in foreign policy. I'm also done with you until you can post my entire statement and not cut only what you wish to use to make your point. Oh... And this... The far-right AND the far-left have one important thing in common. An inability to understand that dogmatic adherence to ideology will very likely get us all killed.

It's very very well -documented that when you go hogwild with drones, massacring innocents accidentally to get to your "primary suspect", the survivors HATE you and will try to enact revenge. Or their neighbours will. Or their family. Or their in-laws.

Drones might kill a few "suspected militants", but they create far more "terrorists". Put yourself in their shoes.

"well, it looks like a US drone hit the wedding party, killed the guy they were looking for and also accidentally bruned my 4 children to death. Let's get to work on making some new kids, wifey."

No, they arm and find ways to enact revenge, which is VERY big in those areas.

Boots on the ground would have been Presidents Bush 2"s position. Which is and was insane. This seems to make more sense. Or you would allow these terrorist who are using yeman as a base to live in peace and kill at will? Smart foreign policy you got there. If the peaceful people of Yeman want peace they can always decide not to tolerate the cold blooded killers who live amongst them. You have no ideas. You have coca-cola "I'd like to teach the world to sing" foreign policy.


Small scale, precise strikes with, say, Navy SEALS are vastly preferable to "boots on the ground" GW Bush style war. But I think the point there was that even drone strikes against known terrorists have backlash and unintended consequences.
 
2012-09-13 09:20:49 AM  
i.imgur.com
 
2012-09-13 09:21:36 AM  

BgJonson79: Why in the world would we need to give a bunch of Jewish people nuclear weapons when they were the ones who farking built them?


I assume you're alluding to the Jewish heritage of the scientists on the Manhattan Project. None of those guys ever owned a bomb personally. They were employees of the US Government. Israel didn't have the manufacturing ability to produce atomic bombs at the time and did not until the late 1960s. Why would they bother if Uncle Sugar has already done the heavy lifting for them?
 
2012-09-13 09:22:25 AM  

Baryogenesis: BgJonson79: Father_Jack: Baryogenesis: *Refresh*
Put right wing moron and/or troll on ignore
*Refresh*
Put right wing moron and/or troll on ignore
*Refresh*

These threads are great for identifying the mouth breathers. Foreign policy is more nuanced and complicated than shoot first ask questions later and Muslim=bad.

"By giving us the opinions of the uneducated, it keeps us in touch with the ignorance of the community."
-Oscar Wilde

truer now than when he said it.

Fark.com: Giving mouthbreathers a stage and smart people the chance to monitor them since 2001.

Isn't it sorta a dangerous and slippery-slope thought to think that you need to "monitor" people you disagree with?

Let's extend that thought to Middle East foreign policy.


I was separating out the idea of monitoring people in your jurisdiction with a foreign policy/military decision... but you knew that ;-)
 
2012-09-13 09:22:34 AM  

robohobo: ScudEast: Insatiable Jesus: According to The Wall Street Journal, Bacile said he raised $5 million from about 100 Jewish donors to make the two-hour movie in California last year.
http://www.cnn.com/2012/09/12/world/anti-islam-film/index.html

That has to be bullshiat. There is no way anyone spent 5 million dollars on that. It looks like someone's very bad high school film studies project.

Dude, it says JEWISH donors. They'll spend whatever they need to, so long as it detracts attention from Israel's bad behavior.


Continuing with your presumably sarcastic racism, surely Jews a) Know how to make films and b) Don't waste money :D
 
2012-09-13 09:23:33 AM  

fusillade762: Why does the Islamic world seem to susceptible to trolling? Can we turn that to our advantage?


No matter how low the percentage of morons is, the larger the demographic gets the more morons you get. The Muslim demographic is huge so... Plus you get the jerks that aren't even part of the demographic but will jump in just because it's an opportunity to break shiat and get away with it.
 
2012-09-13 09:23:43 AM  

Baryogenesis: You're free to blather whatever derp you like. I'm free to ignore it in favor of intelligent discussion. You're just proving the case that conservatives think criticism is equivalent to censorship.


What you call derp I call opinions. What I call YOUR derp, you call it your "criticism".

So while the right thinking of mine is an opinion... you either choose to ignore it, call it derp, and criticize it rather than offering any kind of intelligent discussion. A bit hypocritical don't ya think?

 
2012-09-13 09:24:20 AM  

HotIgneous Intruder: BgJonson79: Why in the world would we need to give a bunch of Jewish people nuclear weapons when they were the ones who farking built them?

I assume you're alluding to the Jewish heritage of the scientists on the Manhattan Project. None of those guys ever owned a bomb personally. They were employees of the US Government. Israel didn't have the manufacturing ability to produce atomic bombs at the time and did not until the late 1960s. Why would they bother if Uncle Sugar has already done the heavy lifting for them?


I'd argue the physics done 20 years earlier was the heavy lifting.

Besides, Israel is under no obligation not to have them. They never signed the NNPT.
 
2012-09-13 09:26:04 AM  

Waxing_Chewbacca: Boots on the ground would have been Presidents Bush 2"s position. Which is and was insane. This seems to make more sense. Or you would allow these terrorist who are using yeman as a base to live in peace and kill at will? Smart foreign policy you got there. If the peaceful people of Yeman want peace they can always decide not to tolerate the cold blooded killers who live amongst them. You have no ideas. You have coca-cola "I'd like to teach the world to sing" foreign policy.


HAHA! Yeah, if the Yemenis don't want the heavily armed militants to stay, they should just stroll over and ask them to please leave. Haha.

A lot of this is people's reactions to drone strikes and military intervention, so your suggestion is to use drones and military intervention to stop it.

That is rich, buddy. Not very well thought-out, but rich.

My suggestion is to be less paranoid and less cowardly. Yemen is hardly a threat to the USA, and the only Americans they'll kill are there in Yemen. So get them out and leave the country alone.

Your "nation-building" skills are atrocious.
 
2012-09-13 09:27:22 AM  

Joe Blowme: remember, members of the same death cult that killed our people were incharge of security and CBS says they actively helped the attackers.


yea... because we should all believe anything our media pours out. I can't believe they actually think people... oh, wait... some WILL believe that horseshiat

 
2012-09-13 09:29:55 AM  
A worldwide zombie apocalypse would solve all of this.


Here's hoping.

/seriously, it would be awesome, if only to see peoples I don't like perish, even if I ended up in the belly of a brownie
//has near a million rounds
 
2012-09-13 09:31:31 AM  
Fark.com: Giving mouthbreathers a stage and smart people the chance to monitor them since 2001.


Ahahahahahahahahahahahaha!
Awesome. Arrogant and stupid at the same time. Truly, welcome to Fark.
 
2012-09-13 09:32:17 AM  
If I were paranoid, I'd say Rove put the video together.
 
2012-09-13 09:33:01 AM  

Baryogenesis: Small scale, precise strikes with, say, Navy SEALS are vastly preferable to "boots on the ground" GW Bush style war. But I think the point there was that even drone strikes against known terrorists have backlash and unintended consequences.


That might work. But I would even suggest using trained and trusted Yemenis to do the heavy lifting. No US troops whatsoever.

It gives Yemenis the sense that they are in control of their own destiny and avoids inevitable problems (if the Yemenis pee on a corpse or burn a Koran it's THEIR problem, and doesn't foment anti-U.S. sentiments amongst the local population.)
 
2012-09-13 09:33:01 AM  
How about we put these.
upload.wikimedia.org

On top of these.

www.ronarons.com

To use only on people doing this.

msnbcmedia.msn.com


That's not wrong? is it?
 
2012-09-13 09:33:15 AM  

vegasj: Baryogenesis: You're free to blather whatever derp you like. I'm free to ignore it in favor of intelligent discussion. You're just proving the case that conservatives think criticism is equivalent to censorship.

What you call derp I call opinions. What I call YOUR derp, you call it your "criticism".

So while the right thinking of mine is an opinion... you either choose to ignore it, call it derp, and criticize it rather than offering any kind of intelligent discussion. A bit hypocritical don't ya think?


I think it's telling that when I said I was putting right wing trolls on ignore you took offense. By the way, your initial comment in the thread was about "Obama's apology". Pot meet kettle.

Would you like to try for intelligent discussion again?

BgJonson79: I was separating out the idea of monitoring people in your jurisdiction with a foreign policy/military decision... but you knew that ;-)


I don't see how it's all that different. Is it prudent to monitor potential threats?
 
2012-09-13 09:33:17 AM  

BgJonson79: Father_Jack: Baryogenesis: *Refresh*
Put right wing moron and/or troll on ignore
*Refresh*
Put right wing moron and/or troll on ignore
*Refresh*

These threads are great for identifying the mouth breathers. Foreign policy is more nuanced and complicated than shoot first ask questions later and Muslim=bad.

"By giving us the opinions of the uneducated, it keeps us in touch with the ignorance of the community."
-Oscar Wilde

truer now than when he said it.

Fark.com: Giving mouthbreathers a stage and smart people the chance to monitor them since 2001.

Isn't it sorta a dangerous and slippery-slope thought to think that you need to "monitor" people you disagree with?


No, not at all.

I think its important to understand what people I don't agree with are thinking and why, it helps explain what is to me at times completely illogical.

Every now and again amongst all the angry chickenhawks and badly informed redstaters, there'll be one who will really try to lay it out and explain why he or she thinks x or y, and that stuff is really good to know. It helps keep a human face on stupid, remind me that we all basically want the same things and that Americans fundamentally disagree because of the quality of information we base decisions on.

Some people choose to put decent information into their heads, and can reason accordingly and make good decisions. Others willfully put bad information into their heads and make logical conclusions from that bad information. And then the final, smallest and most unreachable set are both stupid AND put bad information into their heads, and aren't able to make anything BUT bad decisions. These are the people like Thunderpipes and Bevets. People from the other groups are worth listening to.
 
2012-09-13 09:33:48 AM  

BgJonson79: I'd argue the physics done 20 years earlier was the heavy lifting.


Then you'd be wrong.
It's nothing knowing the theory of how a nuclear bomb works.
A school kid can learn that.
It's everything knowing exactly how to build a nuclear bomb and what materials to use and how to produce those materials to the proper tolerances.
Read up on the Manhattan Project sometime.
 
2012-09-13 09:34:27 AM  

One Big Ass Mistake America: [i.imgur.com image 700x524]


Derrrrrr. Obama would have done what he did here, the ships and drones are on the way as we speak. Unlike Bush, Obama will make sure that we have correctly identified the perps, then kill them dead. Bush just invaded a random unrelated country months later and let the perp go free.
 
2012-09-13 09:34:28 AM  
Irate movie critics are storming our embassies in alphabetical order!

Alert Harare, Zimbabwe!
 
2012-09-13 09:35:33 AM  
The trolls are out in force, huh?.
 
2012-09-13 09:35:52 AM  
sheesh, just nuke 'em....you see the japanese don't bother us anymore; they actually make all the stuff we use on a daily basis now ;)
 
2012-09-13 09:35:58 AM  

HotIgneous Intruder: BgJonson79: I'd argue the physics done 20 years earlier was the heavy lifting.

Then you'd be wrong.
It's nothing knowing the theory of how a nuclear bomb works.
A school kid can learn that.
It's everything knowing exactly how to build a nuclear bomb and what materials to use and how to produce those materials to the proper tolerances.
Read up on the Manhattan Project sometime.


I thought you only needed a city with access to uranium. Although, the downside is that nuclear weapons are then unlocked for all civilizations.
 
2012-09-13 09:36:04 AM  

One Big Ass Mistake America: [i.imgur.com image 700x524]


You're living in a different reality, aren't you?
 
2012-09-13 09:36:09 AM  
They can stop hating our freedom now. We don't have any left.
 
2012-09-13 09:36:20 AM  

Baryogenesis: Waxing_Chewbacca: jakomo002: Joe Blowme: Lesser of 2 evils, strongman of islamic pshychos... i have to go with the strongman who will keep savages in check. Besides, they drew first blood in 1790's, Barbary Pirates and all that so can we just point to that as justification to kill them? Or can we go back further and blame the taking of Vienna? Or Spain? Ect...,

Dude, I'm sorry. I didn't even realize I was arguing with crazy person. Sorry, and seek help for your obvious mental illness.

Waxing_Chewbacca: I understand and agree. But those who turn to terrorism must blown off the face off the planet. Drones are a surgical method of doing what must be done. So grow the fark and understand there are no absolutes in foreign policy. I'm also done with you until you can post my entire statement and not cut only what you wish to use to make your point. Oh... And this... The far-right AND the far-left have one important thing in common. An inability to understand that dogmatic adherence to ideology will very likely get us all killed.

It's very very well -documented that when you go hogwild with drones, massacring innocents accidentally to get to your "primary suspect", the survivors HATE you and will try to enact revenge. Or their neighbours will. Or their family. Or their in-laws.

Drones might kill a few "suspected militants", but they create far more "terrorists". Put yourself in their shoes.

"well, it looks like a US drone hit the wedding party, killed the guy they were looking for and also accidentally bruned my 4 children to death. Let's get to work on making some new kids, wifey."

No, they arm and find ways to enact revenge, which is VERY big in those areas.

Boots on the ground would have been Presidents Bush 2"s position. Which is and was insane. This seems to make more sense. Or you would allow these terrorist who are using yeman as a base to live in peace and kill at will? Smart foreign policy you got there. If the peaceful people of Yeman want ...


Seals are not always possible. You do not Put American lives at risk to ensure the lives of an equal number of innocents. Harsh but this is the real world.
 
2012-09-13 09:38:45 AM  

Waxing_Chewbacca: Seals are not always possible. You do not Put American lives at risk to ensure the lives of an equal number of innocents. Harsh but this is the real world.


Naturally. That was just an example. Using SEALS to take down Osama instead of invading an entire nation.

Still, the point stands that even drone strikes have negative effects that must be factored into our decision making.
 
2012-09-13 09:39:14 AM  
Coming up on CNN next: Controversial film's actress speaks out.

/She's probably hot.
 
2012-09-13 09:39:31 AM  

jakomo002: Waxing_Chewbacca: Boots on the ground would have been Presidents Bush 2"s position. Which is and was insane. This seems to make more sense. Or you would allow these terrorist who are using yeman as a base to live in peace and kill at will? Smart foreign policy you got there. If the peaceful people of Yeman want peace they can always decide not to tolerate the cold blooded killers who live amongst them. You have no ideas. You have coca-cola "I'd like to teach the world to sing" foreign policy.

HAHA! Yeah, if the Yemenis don't want the heavily armed militants to stay, they should just stroll over and ask them to please leave. Haha.

A lot of this is people's reactions to drone strikes and military intervention, so your suggestion is to use drones and military intervention to stop it.

That is rich, buddy. Not very well thought-out, but rich.

My suggestion is to be less paranoid and less cowardly. Yemen is hardly a threat to the USA, and the only Americans they'll kill are there in Yemen. So get them out and leave the country alone.

Your "nation-building" skills are atrocious.


Answer the question. What would be your policy... Buddy. Yeman is not a threat. Correct. The terrorist there-in are. What would you do?
 
2012-09-13 09:39:37 AM  

fluffy2097: How about we put these.
[upload.wikimedia.org image 850x543]

On top of these.

[www.ronarons.com image 288x384]

To use only on people doing this.

[msnbcmedia.msn.com image 456x342]


That's not wrong? is it?


You want to throw a Volkswagen at them? Does it transform like Bumblebee?
 
2012-09-13 09:41:22 AM  
Tinfoil material:

Got me thinking, what if the Republicans contacted terrorist cells to use this against Obama, and win the elections?
 
2012-09-13 09:41:43 AM  

Baryogenesis: I thought you only needed a city with access to uranium. Although, the downside is that nuclear weapons are then unlocked for all civilizations.


Yeah, it's that easy.
Just fill a soda can with uranium ore, pack it tight, then run over it with a pickup truck or moped.
 
2012-09-13 09:42:18 AM  
Actress is claiming she was duped into acting in the stupid movie.
 
2012-09-13 09:43:13 AM  

Baryogenesis: Waxing_Chewbacca: Seals are not always possible. You do not Put American lives at risk to ensure the lives of an equal number of innocents. Harsh but this is the real world.

Naturally. That was just an example. Using SEALS to take down Osama instead of invading an entire nation.

Still, the point stands that even drone strikes have negative effects that must be factored into our decision making.


I don't disagree with that at all. There are some here who say they must never be used, however, which is a frighteningly childish way to look at the middle east. We likely agree on much more than you might think. I just get tired of the black or white foreign policy of the far right and left. Presidents like Clinton, Obama and, yes, Bush 1 are far preferable in that they had degrees of nuance and reacted to each situation not through a faithfulness to ideaology but to pragmatism.
 
2012-09-13 09:43:37 AM  

AverageAmericanGuy: Who benefits the most from an America that is outraged at Islamists?


Civilization.
 
2012-09-13 09:43:39 AM  
farking ragheads. What a bunch of worthless piles of shiat. Religion of peace strikes again.
 
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