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2012-09-13 02:00:38 PM

SleepingEye: Electromax: MooseUpNorth: Straight to doom: Frankly PC gamers are a bad influence on the social aspects of gaming and make gamers look like elitists' that find everything that isn't a GTX690 worthless.

*shrug* My Oblivion (with 14+ gigs of mods) looks and plays better than console vanilla Skyrim. _My_ Skyrim (with 20+ gigs of mods) plays at 1600x1024, with 2048x2048 textures, and all other settings maxxed, and does it without so much as a stutter (lingering transition instabilities notwithstanding.) And that's with 2010 hardware, so there are better gaming rigs than mine out there. But yes, PCs and consoles are exactly the same and our play experiences are always directly comparable.

/ 2005-2006 hardware + lowest common denominator vanilla gameplay isn't worthless, but it is limiting.
// Not suggesting their attack on EA is right. Funny, hell yes.

I know you weren't speaking from the PC warrior POV, but there's also the time invested aspect and the "does texture resolution and 16x antialiasing matter to you"... for me, I like good looking games but I also like putting the disc in and playing since I don't have as much time as I used to for clearing drive space for install, tweaking settings if your PC can't handle max everything, the time it takes to search/vet mods if that's your thing, etc... in the early 2000s that was all great but now I like that my PS3 will get something running in 12 seconds without any effort. That is worth it enough to me that I don't care about those other things.

Steam can have something running in less than 12 seconds. All I do is click Play and the game launches. No looking for "where did I put the case" or "omg why did my kids break the disc".

Most computers come with 500GB or 1TB hard drives these days. Are you saying that (on average) you have about ~20 games that take 25GB each for 500GB? As noted elsewhere in this thread, even an expansive and modded out game like Skyrim is only 20GB -- most are significantly less. Heck ...


If you read carefully, you'll see that those are the things that annoyed me when I wanted to be a "PC gamer" back in 2000s. At that time I didn't have games autoconfigure for me but I used to have a tough time getting newer games to run smoothly because I didn't religiously update my hardware (which I can avoid with a console) without tweaking lots of options, the last one I remember this with is Half Life 2. Steam is all well and good but I don't have it installed or anything because buying a PS3 was more attractive to me than doing anything on a computer.

On average now I have 0 games on my PC. And I also said I hate looking at screens after work since I work on a PC... if you're in the US you might deduce that there's a good chance I'm at work still (of which Fark is a key element). Also weird that if you don't have friends to recommend video game mods for you you're a "social reject" though, I don't have any gamer friends because gaming is a small part of my hobbies and most are 1p games.

But all that aside, as I already said above these are all examples of things I like that work for me. Most of your points don't apply to my use case, you just put a lot of words in my mouth to argue against for no real reason as I already stated that PC gaming is cool and it isn't for me. I don't have a PC with a 500GB hard drive because I haven't bought one since a $400 laptop in 2006. I go to store, buy Portal 2, come home, put in PS3 and play. Someone else sits at PC, downloads Portal 2 on Steam, and play. We both enjoy our game, who gives a fark about someone else's rationale for doing so? Did my post offend you somehow?
 
2012-09-13 02:00:47 PM

PapaChester: Consoles are for children and the simple minded.

Nothing screams "gas station attendant for life" like console suckers. True pawns of MS and Sony.


thesignalinthenoise.files.wordpress.com
 
2012-09-13 02:01:05 PM
Why the fark did the article feature a picture of a farking MACBOOK if the article is about GAMING?
 
2012-09-13 02:02:18 PM

Electromax: And I also said I hate looking at screens after work since I work on a PC..


So, how do you play Xbox without a TV?
 
2012-09-13 02:05:16 PM

PapaChester: Consoles are for children and the simple minded.

Nothing screams "gas station attendant for life" like console suckers. True pawns of MS and Sony.


Noting screams "extremely low chance of ever copulating with a willing human being" like fanboyism.
 
2012-09-13 02:06:08 PM

Mentalpatient87: Electromax: And I also said I hate looking at screens after work since I work on a PC..

So, how do you play Xbox without a TV?


...well my original quote was giving that as a big reason why I don't game much anymore, but I think my initial comment has become some kind of poster for console elitism so I'll give up. Sorry guys, I'll run out and buy some Alienware ASAP and we can live in peace.
 
2012-09-13 02:09:22 PM

sprawl15:
Droog8912: Mods don't just allow you to make changes to the game; you can effectively produce your own game based on the engine if you are skilled enough.

Which is just a form of piracy. It's just a way to get around licensing the video game engine.


Wow, congratulations on making your argument even worse. You cannot sell or profit from mods as a 3rd party without opening yourself to legal issues...so no, it is nothing like piracy. Furthermore, if the mod is that good (DayZ, Counterstrike, Day of Defeat, etc) it will increase the sales of the base product.
 
2012-09-13 02:10:22 PM

Electromax: Mentalpatient87: Electromax: And I also said I hate looking at screens after work since I work on a PC..

So, how do you play Xbox without a TV?

...well my original quote was giving that as a big reason why I don't game much anymore, but I think my initial comment has become some kind of poster for console elitism so I'll give up. Sorry guys, I'll run out and buy some Alienware ASAP and we can live in peace.


Only posers buy stuff from alienware. Jesus man get with the times! You are not allowed to game any differently than we do and how dare you suggest it?
 
2012-09-13 02:10:31 PM

PapaChester: Consoles are for children and the simple minded.

Nothing screams "gas station attendant for life" like console suckers. True pawns of MS and Sony.


Interesting but once you move on from your 'career' at 7-11 you might find you can afford both a PC and a console.

It's kind of neat not being a total tool who thinks only PC's are for gaming or only consoles are for gaming, because then you can actually have a wider selection of games that aren't available on just that one format. Crazy i know.
 
2012-09-13 02:10:51 PM

HeartBurnKid: No Such Agency: Mentalpatient87:
And saying the art of the game is ruined by mods is like saying the Mona Lisa isn't art because it has parodies.

Studio-approved modding of PC games is the equivalent of the public being allowed to paint over the original Mona Lisa because "every creative expression is equally legitimate". It's the ultimate devaluation of artistic skill and effort.

You can't be serious.

No matter how much fans mod the game, the original still exists in unaltered form somewhere. It is precisely nothing like "the public being allowed to paint over the original Mona Lisa". A better analogy might be painting over a print of the Mona Lisa, or remixing a song.


Farking this, HOLY COW. I honestly thought he was trolling for the last 5 or so posts, and doing an amazing job at it.....but he's farking SERIOUS. He honestly believes modding is bad somehow. That games are an artistic expression that should never, ever be tampered with for your own enjoyment. That 25 gigs of mods dramatically improving your gameplay experience in an otherwise rushed, somewhat incomplete game is BAD. What your smoking.....I want none of it good sir. I'll keep my mods and amazing PC gaming. Dota 2/CS:GO for life.
 
2012-09-13 02:11:27 PM

Electromax: Mentalpatient87: Electromax: And I also said I hate looking at screens after work since I work on a PC..

So, how do you play Xbox without a TV?

...well my original quote was giving that as a big reason why I don't game much anymore, but I think my initial comment has become some kind of poster for console elitism so I'll give up. Sorry guys, I'll run out and buy some Alienware ASAP and we can live in peace.


Whoa whoa, calm down. (and don't buy Alienware, it's shiat) I was just pointing out that if you don't like screens, your TV is one. I like gaming, all gaming. You can prefer consoles all you want, it's no skin off my nose. I'm just saying that you should get better reasons.
 
2012-09-13 02:19:51 PM

Egoy3k: Electromax: Mentalpatient87: Electromax: And I also said I hate looking at screens after work since I work on a PC..

So, how do you play Xbox without a TV?

...well my original quote was giving that as a big reason why I don't game much anymore, but I think my initial comment has become some kind of poster for console elitism so I'll give up. Sorry guys, I'll run out and buy some Alienware ASAP and we can live in peace.

Only posers buy stuff from alienware. Jesus man get with the times! You are not allowed to game any differently than we do and how dare you suggest it?


I owned an Alienware before it was owned by Dell
 
2012-09-13 02:20:43 PM

Mentalpatient87: Whoa whoa, calm down. (and don't buy Alienware, it's shiat) I was just pointing out that if you don't like screens, your TV is one. I like gaming, all gaming. You can prefer consoles all you want, it's no skin off my nose. I'm just saying that you should get better reasons.


It's Dell. You're doing a disservice to shiat.
 
2012-09-13 02:21:55 PM

Girion47: I owned an Alienware before it was owned by Dell


I suggest building it yourself. Just as good, less than half the price.
 
2012-09-13 02:22:38 PM

Mentalpatient87: Electromax: Mentalpatient87: Electromax: And I also said I hate looking at screens after work since I work on a PC..

So, how do you play Xbox without a TV?

...well my original quote was giving that as a big reason why I don't game much anymore, but I think my initial comment has become some kind of poster for console elitism so I'll give up. Sorry guys, I'll run out and buy some Alienware ASAP and we can live in peace.

Whoa whoa, calm down. (and don't buy Alienware, it's shiat) I was just pointing out that if you don't like screens, your TV is one. I like gaming, all gaming. You can prefer consoles all you want, it's no skin off my nose. I'm just saying that you should get better reasons.


Nah, I knew what you meant, Alienware thing was a joke. It isn't just gaming, I don't watch as much TV or even casual PC use anymore at home because it makes me feel like a slob after I've sat at my desk chair all day to go home and do basically the same thing, so I find myself trying to go outside/play with pets/go to gym/have a BBQ or something where I used to hit up some games. Enough to make me consider some night training for more hands-on career like carpentry (I did a bit of in HS) where, even if I made less money, it would provide better separation of interests.

I always wanted to be a game developer but was a bit disillusioned after applying/touring Volition and realizing that it wasn't what my younger self daydreamed it to be.
 
2012-09-13 02:23:11 PM
Ultimately, the point is, when The Game universe looks this amazing,

1.bp.blogspot.com 

and that's how I became the prince of a town called Bel Air.
 
2012-09-13 02:23:47 PM

Girion47: abhorrent1: Stay classy, PC Gamers!

They're still classier than what EA has done to the gaming industry


Damn them for giving us incredibly popular games!!
 
2012-09-13 02:24:34 PM
Fark gamers are weird. Why do they have such intimate relationships with companies? What the hell has EA done? I have no idea. I buy Madden, I play Madden, relationship over. I don't scour the internet looking for stories of a business' bad dealings. If I did, well jeez, I guess Apple would be pretty horrible with all those wonderful Chinese working conditions. Actually, I'm pretty sure every business ever has some shady shiat that's not on the up and up. So what exactly has EA done? To me, they have published awesome games for 30 years starting with Bird vs. Dr. J one on one, to the Maddens and NHL games, to Road Rash, mutant league, Mass Effect, Rock Band, Battlefield...etc. etc. No, but all those games suck right? Calm down dorks, Gabe isn't some farking God, he LOVES MONEY!!! He did everything for money. He has more then you will ever have and could give a shiat if you live or die, only that you buy the next Valve release.
 
2012-09-13 02:26:27 PM
fark that site. I open the article to read it and I'm greated with an ad that pops up, blackens out the rest of the page, and doesn't give me the option to close it until 15 seconds later. I wish ass cancer on whoever programmed that abomination.
 
2012-09-13 02:27:36 PM

Electromax: I always wanted to be a game developer but was a bit disillusioned after applying/touring Volition and realizing that it wasn't what my younger self daydreamed it to be.


Yeah, I'm still holding tight to that dream... Have to move the hell away from this dead-end city, though.
 
2012-09-13 02:30:05 PM

MooseUpNorth: Girion47: I owned an Alienware before it was owned by Dell

I suggest building it yourself. Just as good, less than half the price.


I'm not building shiat, I gave up PC gaming when Activision ruined WoW. I hacked my Wii and I'm working through some SNES games that are still better than most of what's out there. I also downloaded around 8k scifi ebooks and just bought a pair of kayaks that I plan on using to get more fit. Bonus to this is, I can pirate less movies and TV because I don't have time to watch them. So fark game makers, fark DRM, and fark the MPAA, I'm living without them.
 
2012-09-13 02:33:41 PM
Came for hentai pics. Leaving disappointed.

/But I repeat myself like 3 times.
 
2012-09-13 03:02:52 PM

broktune: Fark gamers are weird. Why do they have such intimate relationships with companies? What the hell has EA done? I have no idea. I buy Madden, I play Madden, relationship over. I don't scour the internet looking for stories of a business' bad dealings. If I did, well jeez, I guess Apple would be pretty horrible with all those wonderful Chinese working conditions. Actually, I'm pretty sure every business ever has some shady shiat that's not on the up and up. So what exactly has EA done? To me, they have published awesome games for 30 years starting with Bird vs. Dr. J one on one, to the Maddens and NHL games, to Road Rash, mutant league, Mass Effect, Rock Band, Battlefield...etc. etc. No, but all those games suck right? Calm down dorks, Gabe isn't some farking God, he LOVES MONEY!!! He did everything for money. He has more then you will ever have and could give a shiat if you live or die, only that you buy the next Valve release.


There was a thread a day ago or two about how gabe didn't sell out to ea. he'd rather make sure franchises are quality and not quantity for annual profit. Ea will put out a new one on time every year but lacks consistent quality. They are a stereotypical business model whereas valve is a business based on consumer trust and product quality. Some Internet commentators are insensitive idiots, but it comes down to the fact that I feel like I've wasted money on ea games, but valve has always been a quality purchase.

Ea purchases studios just to turn a profit.
 
2012-09-13 03:09:39 PM

Honest Bender: Wow, sprawl15 is trolling up a storm. You guys do realize you're being trolled, right? What a bunch of dorks...


Look, its the go to response from someone that doesn't want to have a discussion. Just call them a troll.

/Not in this, just wanted to throw that in there.
 
2012-09-13 03:10:18 PM
I've got a 75% off coupon for Portal 2 that I'm going to be using today so I'm getting a kick out of this thread.

/Then I'm going to sell Portal 2 for hats,lots and lots of hats.
 
2012-09-13 03:12:30 PM

thecpt: broktune: Fark gamers are weird. Why do they have such intimate relationships with companies? What the hell has EA done? I have no idea. I buy Madden, I play Madden, relationship over. I don't scour the internet looking for stories of a business' bad dealings. If I did, well jeez, I guess Apple would be pretty horrible with all those wonderful Chinese working conditions. Actually, I'm pretty sure every business ever has some shady shiat that's not on the up and up. So what exactly has EA done? To me, they have published awesome games for 30 years starting with Bird vs. Dr. J one on one, to the Maddens and NHL games, to Road Rash, mutant league, Mass Effect, Rock Band, Battlefield...etc. etc. No, but all those games suck right? Calm down dorks, Gabe isn't some farking God, he LOVES MONEY!!! He did everything for money. He has more then you will ever have and could give a shiat if you live or die, only that you buy the next Valve release.

There was a thread a day ago or two about how gabe didn't sell out to ea. he'd rather make sure franchises are quality and not quantity for annual profit. Ea will put out a new one on time every year but lacks consistent quality. They are a stereotypical business model whereas valve is a business based on consumer trust and product quality. Some Internet commentators are insensitive idiots, but it comes down to the fact that I feel like I've wasted money on ea games, but valve has always been a quality purchase.

Ea purchases studios just to turn a profit.


ME3 had many sucky things about it even if the game engine was polished. The real problem is that YOU PLAY MADDEN. Which tells me that you're a console gamer. Which to me, a confirmed PC gamer is like saying you're the spawn of evil. You don't even understand how much better the games could have been based on their past versions...the same goes for the dragon age series. EA puts the worst people in charge of some of its flagship games. There are a lot of articles out there about EA. You should read some of them.
 
2012-09-13 03:14:13 PM
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2012-09-13 03:15:18 PM

No Such Agency: Ultimately, the point is, when The Game universe looks this amazing,


LOL! Vanilla skyrim is... ok. Acceptable. Last time I got into the Skyrim mood, I ended up with about 60 mods installed. The majority of those were graphics related. Higher res textures, better bump maps, improved lighting and shadows, more realistic water, better weather, improved night sky, better plants...

Then there are the ones that really flesh out the towns and cities. You load those up and walk around for a few minutes and vanilla skyrim will suddenly feel empty and hollow.

Then there's the improved ambient sounds... Another great category for improving immersion. After that, most of my mods add more weapons across the board. Really makes the game feel bigger when not everyone has the same 3 weapons.

I prefer the dovakin hideout mod as far as homes go. It's way nicer than anything I've seen coming out of the latest DLC. It's great for a collector like me. And if that isn't enough for you, check out the Museum house mod.... Crazy!

But, ya. That, like, totally perverts the original work or something. Mods make the games we like BETTER!
 
2012-09-13 03:27:02 PM

Honest Bender: No Such Agency: Ultimately, the point is, when The Game universe looks this amazing,

LOL! Vanilla skyrim is... ok. Acceptable. Last time I got into the Skyrim mood, I ended up with about 60 mods installed. The majority of those were graphics related. Higher res textures, better bump maps, improved lighting and shadows, more realistic water, better weather, improved night sky, better plants...

Then there are the ones that really flesh out the towns and cities. You load those up and walk around for a few minutes and vanilla skyrim will suddenly feel empty and hollow.

Then there's the improved ambient sounds... Another great category for improving immersion. After that, most of my mods add more weapons across the board. Really makes the game feel bigger when not everyone has the same 3 weapons.

I prefer the dovakin hideout mod as far as homes go. It's way nicer than anything I've seen coming out of the latest DLC. It's great for a collector like me. And if that isn't enough for you, check out the Museum house mod.... Crazy!

But, ya. That, like, totally perverts the original work or something. Mods make the games we like BETTER!


I will give you that the graphics pack I downloaded for Dwarf Fortress made it more playable.
 
2012-09-13 03:31:11 PM

TDBoedy: ME3 had many sucky things about it even if the game engine was polished. The real problem is that YOU PLAY MADDEN. Which tells me that you're a console gamer. Which to me, a confirmed PC gamer is like saying you're the spawn of evil. You don't even understand how much better the games could have been based on their past versions...the same goes for the dragon age series. EA puts the worst people in charge of some of its flagship games. There are a lot of articles out there about EA. You should read some of them.


wut? Why can't I play both? Why don't I know quality when I see it? Why is it wrong that I want to sit on a couch and play a game on a console with free connectivity to friends, and other games I want to sit only two feet away from a monitor? EA's executive decisions to buy franchises and make them churn out a yearly product has lead to failures. Thats what I said. ME's creative decisions were done in house, not by EA. And here's my favorite part. The part that let me have a happy gaming year: I liked ME3. Nobody else can get over it. It makes me so happy.

Its like we agree, but you felt like trying to belittle me anyways. I'm missing something.

Also why I said much earlier that last year's madden sucked and I missed quality burnout games.
 
2012-09-13 03:40:58 PM

Nick Spiceyweiner: Honest Bender: Wow, sprawl15 is trolling up a storm. You guys do realize you're being trolled, right? What a bunch of dorks...

Look, its the go to response from someone that doesn't want to have a discussion. Just call them a troll.

/Not in this, just wanted to throw that in there.


While your point is valid, the fact that the argument in question is using more rhetoric than a political attack ad is enough for most guys to just tune out and yell "GTFO troll".

Yuri Futanari: DrRatchet: Hentai is creepy? Try googling "futa".

[i.imgur.com image 850x878]


I knew you'd show up sooner or later.
 
2012-09-13 03:47:23 PM

sprawl15: ThreadSinger: sprawl15: MooseUpNorth: *shrug* My Oblivion (with 14+ gigs of mods) looks and plays better than console vanilla Skyrim. _My_ Skyrim (with 20+ gigs of mods) plays at 1600x1024, with 2048x2048 textures, and all other settings maxxed, and does it without so much as a stutter (lingering transition instabilities notwithstanding.) And that's with 2010 hardware, so there are better gaming rigs than mine out there. But yes, PCs and consoles are exactly the same and our play experiences are always directly comparable.

Mods are exactly what's wrong with PC gaming. The ability of the people who own and enjoy the game to change the experience to suit their tastes undermines the entire idea of gaming - the companies create a thing that is nominally a game for you to experience and you pay them for it. Very simple, and PC gamers have managed to fark even that up. How about instead of ten thousand mods to put big titted underage Asian girls into Skyrim, PC gamers figure out a way to have a solid, dependable community like on XBox Live?

I agree, by being able to modify games, we're removing the rights of the creator of the works to hold sway over how his/her works is used. Gamers do not purchase the rights to the content, merely the right to play it as is as per the terms of the author or owner. DRM might be harsh, but it's necessary, give the current climate of piracy. Without big budget studios, there can be no great games, and we have to play by their rules; it's their property, after all.

Finally, someone who gets it.


I am with you, friend. Many a night have I argued in defense of Ubisoft for this very reason.
 
2012-09-13 04:02:10 PM

thecpt: TDBoedy: ME3 had many sucky things about it even if the game engine was polished. The real problem is that YOU PLAY MADDEN. Which tells me that you're a console gamer. Which to me, a confirmed PC gamer is like saying you're the spawn of evil. You don't even understand how much better the games could have been based on their past versions...the same goes for the dragon age series. EA puts the worst people in charge of some of its flagship games. There are a lot of articles out there about EA. You should read some of them.

wut? Why can't I play both? Why don't I know quality when I see it? Why is it wrong that I want to sit on a couch and play a game on a console with free connectivity to friends, and other games I want to sit only two feet away from a monitor? EA's executive decisions to buy franchises and make them churn out a yearly product has lead to failures. Thats what I said. ME's creative decisions were done in house, not by EA. And here's my favorite part. The part that let me have a happy gaming year: I liked ME3. Nobody else can get over it. It makes me so happy.

Its like we agree, but you felt like trying to belittle me anyways. I'm missing something.

Also why I said much earlier that last year's madden sucked and I missed quality burnout games.


I play SWTOR (and find it fun!) with my co workers and Madden (and find it equally fun!) with old college friends. I often have in the same evening gone from an RTS to playing my league match for the week. I think people liks us confuse "Master Race" PC gamers, i've tried to wrap my head around why but i've realized it's not worth the effort to figure out why they have such hate for us because of what we enjoy doing.

/tl;dr
4.bp.blogspot.com
 
2012-09-13 04:42:19 PM
img145.imageshack.us
This chick is riding a bear in the PC version of Skyrim,
your argument against modding is invalid.
 

This is a link to the full 5760x1080 screen shot that was cropped from, the PC platform can do some amazing things that the weak-ass consoles simply can't. Even the next-gen consoles are sporting last year's lower-mid range video cards.
 
2012-09-13 04:52:00 PM

BumpInTheNight: [img145.imageshack.us image 425x455]
This chick is riding a bear in the PC version of Skyrim,
your argument against modding is invalid. 

This is a link to the full 5760x1080 screen shot that was cropped from, the PC platform can do some amazing things that the weak-ass consoles simply can't. Even the next-gen consoles are sporting last year's lower-mid range video cards.


That's a nice story.

You know what consoles can do that PC's can't, play console exclusive titles.
You know what PC's can do that consoles can't, play PC exclusive titles.

Going 'yay team' because you own a piece of hardware is idiotic.
 
2012-09-13 04:52:24 PM

Expolaris: I play SWTOR (and find it fun!) with my co workers and Madden (and find it equally fun!) with old college friends. I often have in the same evening gone from an RTS to playing my league match for the week. I think people liks us confuse "Master Race" PC gamers, i've tried to wrap my head around why but i've realized it's not worth the effort to figure out why they have such hate for us because of what we enjoy doing.

/tl;dr


Ha, yeah I'll play rounds of Total War while pitching in The Show. Its maximized happiness (once I have a bag of mini cadbury eggs)
 
2012-09-13 05:08:52 PM
i.imgur.com
 
2012-09-13 05:19:30 PM

BumpInTheNight: This chick is riding a bear in the PC version of Skyrim,
your argument against modding is invalid.


One up'd!
 
2012-09-13 05:45:27 PM
Current-gen consoles are PCs. They're just purpose built with a proprietary OS. Yeah, you could draw a distinction when a console was a processor that was slogging through the ROM chip of a cartridge. Now both types of equipment have an OS even with no game loaded, persistent storage on the device, networking, HD video out (unless you're the Wii), etc. Hell, you can even check your e-mail on both. The only appreciable difference is that one is purpose built and nearly unupgradable.

Now, gamepad (or stick) vs. keyboard/mouse - that's the arena where you actually have some debate.

/Multiplayer FPS on a console is sadness
 
2012-09-13 05:55:43 PM

ThreadSinger: sprawl15: ThreadSinger: sprawl15: MooseUpNorth: *shrug* My Oblivion (with 14+ gigs of mods) looks and plays better than console vanilla Skyrim. _My_ Skyrim (with 20+ gigs of mods) plays at 1600x1024, with 2048x2048 textures, and all other settings maxxed, and does it without so much as a stutter (lingering transition instabilities notwithstanding.) And that's with 2010 hardware, so there are better gaming rigs than mine out there. But yes, PCs and consoles are exactly the same and our play experiences are always directly comparable.

Mods are exactly what's wrong with PC gaming. The ability of the people who own and enjoy the game to change the experience to suit their tastes undermines the entire idea of gaming - the companies create a thing that is nominally a game for you to experience and you pay them for it. Very simple, and PC gamers have managed to fark even that up. How about instead of ten thousand mods to put big titted underage Asian girls into Skyrim, PC gamers figure out a way to have a solid, dependable community like on XBox Live?

I agree, by being able to modify games, we're removing the rights of the creator of the works to hold sway over how his/her works is used. Gamers do not purchase the rights to the content, merely the right to play it as is as per the terms of the author or owner. DRM might be harsh, but it's necessary, give the current climate of piracy. Without big budget studios, there can be no great games, and we have to play by their rules; it's their property, after all.

Finally, someone who gets it.

I am with you, friend. Many a night have I argued in defense of Ubisoft for this very reason.


What you've just said is one of the most insanely idiotic things I have ever heard. At no point in your rambling, incoherent response were you even close to anything that could be considered a rational thought. Everyone in this room is now dumber for having listened to it. I award you no points, and may God have mercy on your soul.
 
2012-09-13 06:08:46 PM

Straight to doom: frepnog: sprawl15: MooseUpNorth: *shrug* My Oblivion (with 14+ gigs of mods) looks and plays better than console vanilla Skyrim. _My_ Skyrim (with 20+ gigs of mods) plays at 1600x1024, with 2048x2048 textures, and all other settings maxxed, and does it without so much as a stutter (lingering transition instabilities notwithstanding.) And that's with 2010 hardware, so there are better gaming rigs than mine out there. But yes, PCs and consoles are exactly the same and our play experiences are always directly comparable.

Mods are exactly what's wrong with PC gaming. The ability of the people who own and enjoy the game to change the experience to suit their tastes undermines the entire idea of gaming - the companies create a thing that is nominally a game for you to experience and you pay them for it. Very simple, and PC gamers have managed to fark even that up. How about instead of ten thousand mods to put big titted underage Asian girls into Skyrim, PC gamers figure out a way to have a solid, dependable community like on XBox Live?

STEAM.

/jesus, you are either trolling or just a moron.

Steam is far from perfect. Region locked coding, lack of good MAC support, Steams on form of DRM (To the point that when I had a good computer but with no Internet I couldn't play Fallout:NV)

Meanwhile on PSN and XBL I can play any game offline, not have to give a credit card and just use the pre paid cards. Plus the Party interface on XBL is so simple and quick I'll use that over a steam chat room.


XBL and PSN also have region locked coding (as does every other service of this type-because sometimes company A has rights to something in territory 1 but not territory 2). Mac Support on Steam is fine. Valve sells Steam prepaid cards at Gamestop. You get half a point for Steam's off-line mode, which basically requires you to be on-line when you switch it to off-line mode (which is a problem if your internet goes down suddenly), but almost every other point you made was wrong.
 
2012-09-13 06:13:32 PM

A Terrible Human: I've got a 75% off coupon for Portal 2 that I'm going to be using today so I'm getting a kick out of this thread.

/Then I'm going to sell Portal 2 for hats,lots and lots of hats.


Good luck with that. Portal 2 is currently not worth very much on the TF2 trading circuit because everybody has one of those 75% off coupons (including myself), so it's now basically considered a $5 game. I believe they gave one to everybody who has Portal 2 already in their account (to encourage people to buy extra copies to give to their friends or trade).
 
2012-09-13 06:17:54 PM

Geotpf: XBL and PSN also have region locked coding (as does every other service of this type-because sometimes company A has rights to something in territory 1 but not territory 2). Mac Support on Steam is fine. Valve sells Steam prepaid cards at Gamestop. You get half a point for Steam's off-line mode, which basically requires you to be on-line when you switch it to off-line mode (which is a problem if your internet goes down suddenly), but almost every other point you made was wrong.


You're right, PSN, DLC, and I think savefiles are all locked. Fun fact though, every non-PSN PS3 game until this March wasn't region locked. The ability was there, but none of the publishers used it until Atlus embarked on their cunning plan of, "release the exact same game w/ multilanguage, but do it several months apart in different regions."
 
2012-09-13 06:19:27 PM

Dimensio: frepnog: Girion47: abhorrent1: Stay classy, PC Gamers!

They're still classier than what EA has done to the gaming industry

while EA may have done some questionable things.... they do ship on time. we are still waiting for Valve to release HL2: EP3.

some game publishers remind me of 90's image comics.... nothing gets shipped on time.

You are correct; Electronic Arts games are consistently released on time, regardless of the features that are ultimately scaled back or removed entirely to do so and regardless of how much the product suffers as a result of reduced development time and quality control.


I much prefer games with reviews like 11 out 10 and "Best Game of All Time" (actual reviews of Half Life 1 and Half Life 2, respectively) that were released late than stuff released on time that sucks ass.
 
2012-09-13 07:27:37 PM

Russky: PapaChester: Consoles are for children and the simple minded.

Nothing screams "gas station attendant for life" like console suckers. True pawns of MS and Sony.

Interesting but once you move on from your 'career' at 7-11 you might find you can afford both a PC and a console.

It's kind of neat not being a total tool who thinks only PC's are for gaming or only consoles are for gaming, because then you can actually have a wider selection of games that aren't available on just that one format. Crazy i know.



Time to tell the fanboys:
stickerish.com
 
2012-09-13 08:49:34 PM

Russky: It's kind of neat not being a total tool who thinks only PC's are for gaming or only consoles are for gaming, because then you can actually have a wider selection of games that aren't available on just that one format. Crazy i know.


Of course not. Neither is for gaming. That's what the iPhone is for.

/ducks
 
2012-09-13 09:02:24 PM

Geotpf: Good luck with that. Portal 2 is currently not worth very much on the TF2 trading circuit because everybody has one of those 75% off coupons (including myself), so it's now basically considered a $5 game. I believe they gave one to everybody who has Portal 2 already in their account (to encourage people to buy extra copies to give to their friends or trade).


Thing is those coupons stop being good the 14th of this month so I'll just hold out a month or two and then bam hats ahoy. Also I've found my favorite weapon ever,the unarmed combat. Beating someone to death with it is just as satisfying and funny as doing it with the holy mackerel.
 
2012-09-13 10:41:55 PM

Russky: PapaChester: Consoles are for children and the simple minded.

Nothing screams "gas station attendant for life" like console suckers. True pawns of MS and Sony.

Interesting but once you move on from your 'career' at 7-11 you might find you can afford both a PC and a console.

It's kind of neat not being a total tool who thinks only PC's are for gaming or only consoles are for gaming, because then you can actually have a wider selection of games that aren't available on just that one format. Crazy i know.


Hush you! This is Fark, where you must pick 1 of 2 opposing sides and defend your side to the death regardless of how stupid you sound!
 
2012-09-14 12:36:17 AM
Stop arguing with the Great Unwashed Masses...


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2012-09-14 12:55:45 AM

Gonad the Ballbarian: Stop arguing with the Great Unwashed Masses...


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That second image is BULLSHIAT!

Consoles don't have anti-aliasing like that.
 
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