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(Major League Baseball)   MLB releases 2013 schedule with new wrinkles. The Astros move to the AL will lead to at least one Interleague game every day, and 19 divisional games for every club. Cool, 'cuz this season sucks   (mlb.mlb.com) divider line 113
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2012-09-13 09:40:36 AM  
I wish Toronto had an actual natural rival... Colorado is ours simply by process of elimination...
 
2012-09-13 10:06:41 AM  
The Yankees play the Giants after 151 games. Because when I think about late September baseball I think "God, I'm so tired of watching the teams in my division battle it out for playoff spots I could really use some Interleague play."
 
2012-09-13 10:46:35 AM  
This looks much more like NFL scheduling, which means it's pretty intelligent. Predictable and equal numbers of division meetings is pretty huge. And it can't hut to have an equal number of teams per division. Good move by baseball.

Although, I certainly understand where WTF Indeed is coming from. The timing of late season interleague doesn't make nearly as much sense in baseball as it does in football, simply because individual wins don't have as much weight.
 
2012-09-13 10:47:46 AM  

WTF Indeed: The Yankees play the Giants after 151 games. Because when I think about late September baseball I think "God, I'm so tired of watching the teams in my division battle it out for playoff spots I could really use some Interleague play."


They have no choice. 15 teams in each league means there has to be at least one interleague matchup every single week and weekend.
 
2012-09-13 10:50:26 AM  

WTF Indeed: The Yankees play the Giants after 151 games. Because when I think about late September baseball I think "God, I'm so tired of watching the teams in my division battle it out for playoff spots I could really use some Interleague play."


The funny thing about having an odd number of teams in each division is that there is always someone in each division playing non-division games. It happens today in 4 of 6 divisions, so what does it matter if the non-division matchup is AL East vs. AL Central or AL East vs. NL West?

I like the changes overall, except losing 2 of the "rivalry" games. It looks like teams will face 7 interleague opponents each year, meaning a team should visit every park at least once every 5 years.
 
2012-09-13 10:52:05 AM  

RumsfeldsReplacement: WTF Indeed: The Yankees play the Giants after 151 games. Because when I think about late September baseball I think "God, I'm so tired of watching the teams in my division battle it out for playoff spots I could really use some Interleague play."

They have no choice. 15 teams in each league means there has to be at least one interleague matchup every single week and weekend.


I think that's the point, isn't it? How ridiculous the possibilities/ramifications are with this set-up?
 
2012-09-13 10:52:06 AM  
Interleague sucks.
 
2012-09-13 10:52:52 AM  

Guelph35: WTF Indeed: The Yankees play the Giants after 151 games. Because when I think about late September baseball I think "God, I'm so tired of watching the teams in my division battle it out for playoff spots I could really use some Interleague play."

The funny thing about having an odd number of teams in each division is that there is always someone in each division playing non-division games. It happens today in 4 of 6 divisions, so what does it matter if the non-division matchup is AL East vs. AL Central or AL East vs. NL West?

I like the changes overall, except losing 2 of the "rivalry" games. It looks like teams will face 7 interleague opponents each year, meaning a team should visit every park at least once every 5 years.


The difference is the DH
 
2012-09-13 10:54:55 AM  

Tr0mBoNe: I wish Toronto had an actual natural rival... Colorado is ours simply by process of elimination...


How about Montreal Washington?
 
2012-09-13 10:59:20 AM  

Tr0mBoNe: I wish Toronto had an actual natural rival... Colorado is ours simply by process of elimination...


I thought we had philly and the braves as somewhat rivals due to the 92 and 93 ws. It looks like on the schedule by definition the Braves are our "rival."
 
2012-09-13 10:59:37 AM  
If it comes down to the final weekend, the Tigers will be fighting for a playoff spot versus their traditional rival, the Miami Marlins.

I hate Bud Selig.
 
2012-09-13 11:00:45 AM  

Mateorocks: Interleague sucks.


And the Designated Hitter swallows.
 
2012-09-13 11:02:30 AM  

NeoCortex42: Tr0mBoNe: I wish Toronto had an actual natural rival... Colorado is ours simply by process of elimination...

How about Montreal Washington?


Baltimore and Washington are natural rivals.

Toronto and...well, nobody are natural rivals. So I guess it's Colorado ftw.
 
2012-09-13 11:06:08 AM  
I don't like interleague or the DH but i've come to accept it.

i think i'll probably grow to love the Wild Wild Card when my team can take advantage of it.

MLB should reduce the schedule though. 162 games is just ridiculous.

and i'd like to see a world series game played in daytime.
 
2012-09-13 11:07:35 AM  

RumsfeldsReplacement: WTF Indeed: The Yankees play the Giants after 151 games. Because when I think about late September baseball I think "God, I'm so tired of watching the teams in my division battle it out for playoff spots I could really use some Interleague play."

They have no choice. 15 teams in each league means there has to be at least one interleague matchup every single week and weekend.


Not only that, it means at least 1 Interleague game on days where every team is playing..
 
2012-09-13 11:08:47 AM  
The World series gets bad enough ratings in prime time, it would get slaughtered against football or the work week.
 
2012-09-13 11:09:07 AM  

rickythepenguin: and i'd like to see a world series game played in daytime.


Absolutely!

Unfortunately, there'$ little po$$ibility of that actually happening.
 
2012-09-13 11:09:23 AM  

rickythepenguin: I don't like interleague or the DH but i've come to accept it.

i think i'll probably grow to love the Wild Wild Card when my team can take advantage of it.

MLB should reduce the schedule though. 162 games is just ridiculous.

and i'd like to see a world series game played in daytime.


I like the idea of the Wild Wild Card, but I hate that it's a one-game playoff. It should be a three game series.
World Series day games absolutely need to happen.
I would also like to see the return of scheduled double-headers. Then we don't have to worry about baseball in November.
 
2012-09-13 11:12:43 AM  
I hate interleague play. The baseball season is too short, and there are too many teams to be trying to have these weird matchups. The Yankees against the Dodgers? That's not even baseball. I want to watch my team play 3 other teams in its division for 160 games per year, the way nature intended.
 
2012-09-13 11:13:07 AM  
The KC Royals will be at the bottom of the AL Central no matter what their schedule looks like. And quite possibly the worst team in baseball.
 
2012-09-13 11:14:58 AM  

NeoCortex42: I like the idea of the Wild Wild Card, but I hate that it's a one-game playoff. It should be a three game series.


I could dig that, but only if the ALDS/NLDS is expanded from 5 to 7
 
2012-09-13 11:15:06 AM  

NeoCortex42: rickythepenguin: I don't like interleague or the DH but i've come to accept it.

i think i'll probably grow to love the Wild Wild Card when my team can take advantage of it.

MLB should reduce the schedule though. 162 games is just ridiculous.

and i'd like to see a world series game played in daytime.

I like the idea of the Wild Wild Card, but I hate that it's a one-game playoff. It should be a three game series.
World Series day games absolutely need to happen.
I would also like to see the return of scheduled double-headers. Then we don't have to worry about baseball in November.


One game is fine. Don't like it? Win your Division. Finally that means something. The Wild Card should mean your team has only a faint chance of being WS champ.
 
2012-09-13 11:15:49 AM  
Braves, Marlins, and Nats coming to the K? I'm ok with this. Why the Cards games are weeknight games?
 
2012-09-13 11:16:29 AM  
Baseball in October is bad enough, but November is simply wrong. It is football and hunting season. I like the realignment a lot, but the scheduling is preposterous. Cut interleague play entirely, keep baseball a summer game, and somebody please slap Bud in the face. He has obviously gone wonky again.
 
2012-09-13 11:17:23 AM  

Cubs300: NeoCortex42: Tr0mBoNe: I wish Toronto had an actual natural rival... Colorado is ours simply by process of elimination...

How about Montreal Washington?

Baltimore and Washington are natural rivals.

Toronto and...well, nobody are natural rivals. So I guess it's Colorado ftw.


I suspect the Colorado/Toronto rivalry will be based on the mutual feeling that the other is unworthy of a rivalry.

/fark Toronto - they're not our rival!
 
2012-09-13 11:19:06 AM  

Decillion: NeoCortex42: rickythepenguin: I don't like interleague or the DH but i've come to accept it.

i think i'll probably grow to love the Wild Wild Card when my team can take advantage of it.

MLB should reduce the schedule though. 162 games is just ridiculous.

and i'd like to see a world series game played in daytime.

I like the idea of the Wild Wild Card, but I hate that it's a one-game playoff. It should be a three game series.
World Series day games absolutely need to happen.
I would also like to see the return of scheduled double-headers. Then we don't have to worry about baseball in November.

One game is fine. Don't like it? Win your Division. Finally that means something. The Wild Card should mean your team has only a faint chance of being WS champ.


Even with a three game series, it's a major advantage to win the division. You would already get the advantage of being able to rest your pitchers and reset your rotation.
 
2012-09-13 11:21:01 AM  

NeoCortex42: I like the idea of the Wild Wild Card, but I hate that it's a one-game playoff. It should be a three game series.



no.....if, over 162 games, you can't win your division or have the highest win total of non-division champ (wild card) then you can't make a colorable claim of WE NEED THREE GAMES!

plus, three games would add 5 days to the playoffs (assuming it goes three games), which would stretch the postseason out even more. you'd have the other, what, 12 teams getting rusty. one game is enough.
 
2012-09-13 11:21:09 AM  

Decillion: NeoCortex42: rickythepenguin: I don't like interleague or the DH but i've come to accept it.

i think i'll probably grow to love the Wild Wild Card when my team can take advantage of it.

MLB should reduce the schedule though. 162 games is just ridiculous.

and i'd like to see a world series game played in daytime.

I like the idea of the Wild Wild Card, but I hate that it's a one-game playoff. It should be a three game series.
World Series day games absolutely need to happen.
I would also like to see the return of scheduled double-headers. Then we don't have to worry about baseball in November.

One game is fine. Don't like it? Win your Division. Finally that means something. The Wild Card should mean your team has only a faint chance of being WS champ.


I want a 3 game series, but handle it like the NFL. No time off for WC teams. The division winners get 3-4 days so their rotation is fresh, they have home field advantage, and the WC team plays the team with the best record.

That's hard enough. And a division win means one less series and time off.
 
2012-09-13 11:22:19 AM  

mainstreet62: Absolutely!

Unfortunately, there'$ little po$$ibility of that actually happening.



i know, that's lame.

the worst part about the nighttime WS is games sometimes end at like, midnight eastern. what better way to grow the game for kids....than to have games end at 1130 - 12AM on a school night?
 
2012-09-13 11:24:25 AM  

Balchinian: Baseball in October is bad enough, but November is simply wrong. It is football and hunting season. I like the realignment a lot, but the scheduling is preposterous. Cut interleague play entirely, keep baseball a summer game, and somebody please slap Bud in the face. He has obviously gone wonky again.


No one is forcing you to watch baseball.

also, the 2013 regular season ends on Sept. 29th, despite it being a WBC year
 
2012-09-13 11:27:05 AM  

rickythepenguin: NeoCortex42: I like the idea of the Wild Wild Card, but I hate that it's a one-game playoff. It should be a three game series.


no.....if, over 162 games, you can't win your division or have the highest win total of non-division champ (wild card) then you can't make a colorable claim of WE NEED THREE GAMES!

plus, three games would add 5 days to the playoffs (assuming it goes three games), which would stretch the postseason out even more. you'd have the other, what, 12 teams getting rusty. one game is enough.


Uhhh... What? Do you even know how MLB playoffs work?

First - best record of non-division winner is one of the two WC teams. They may want a 3 game series so they don't get stuck having played a hard game the day before to try and win a division, then having a team that they beat regularly and have a better record than win one game on them and go on.

Second, there are 6 other teams. Not 12. And
 
2012-09-13 11:27:32 AM  
Haven't looked at it yet, but this means the DH is coming to the NL...and that makes me furious.

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Selig is determined to move baseball's league/team set up towards the football system, where everybody plays everybody throughout the year and the NFC/AFC dichotomy doesn't matter a whole lot except when it's time for playoffs, and everybody plays in the playoffs. To that end, the biggest obstacle is the DH not being uniform.

So, eventually, Selig is going to pull the trigger on evening out the rules between the league. And, while I'm normally pro-player as opposed to pro-owner, the players are the ones who are going to make the NL get the DH. Because they want that extra salary. Who's normally the 25th guy on an NL roster? Some shiatty bullpen pitcher or a utility infielder. Now, compare that to a DH salary - instead of a league minimum salary, you're talking another $5-10M or more player on a lot of teams. Hell, Travis Hafner is making $13M this year, and he sucks.

But goddamn, I hate the DH and I'll hate seeing it come to the NL. Doesn't look like there's anything that will stop it, though, unless this whole interleague thing falls apart at some point.
 
2012-09-13 11:30:09 AM  
I can haz scheduled double header?
 
2012-09-13 11:30:27 AM  

Balchinian: Baseball in October is bad enough, but November is simply wrong. It is football and hunting season. I like the realignment a lot, but the scheduling is preposterous. Cut interleague play entirely, keep baseball a summer game, and somebody please slap Bud in the face. He has obviously gone wonky again.


How would you suggest scheduling all in-division games with an odd number of teams in each league? I don't like it either, but if you like the realignment, there's always going to be one team sitting out for 3-4 days at a time. And that's no good.

Unless they're going to add 3 expansion teams to each league, or drop 3 teams from each league... who would be good candidates?
 
2012-09-13 11:38:45 AM  

The Onion is prophetic: How would you suggest scheduling all in-division games with an odd number of teams in each league? I don't like it either, but if you like the realignment, there's always going to be one team sitting out for 3-4 days at a time. And that's no good.

Unless they're going to add 3 expansion teams to each league, or drop 3 teams from each league... who would be good candidates?



Add two teams - one to each league - and go to four divisions of four. Then if you do the stupid two wild card thing, they play before the division winners get started and the bracket makes a lot more sense. Plus, four team divisions means you can stop lumping the Texas teams in with the California teams.
 
2012-09-13 11:45:57 AM  
Tigers fan here. This schedule sucks for us, because we end the year in an NL park (Miami). It's gonna be real fun if we head into the last weekend fighting for a division title and we lose our DH, while other teams in our division get theirs.
 
2012-09-13 11:52:05 AM  
NeoCortex42:

I like the idea of the Wild Wild Card, but I hate that it's a one-game playoff. It should be a three game series.



In short time, it will be. And then it will be a five-game series. And then....
 
2012-09-13 11:58:05 AM  

The Onion is prophetic: Balchinian: Baseball in October is bad enough, but November is simply wrong. It is football and hunting season. I like the realignment a lot, but the scheduling is preposterous. Cut interleague play entirely, keep baseball a summer game, and somebody please slap Bud in the face. He has obviously gone wonky again.

How would you suggest scheduling all in-division games with an odd number of teams in each league? I don't like it either, but if you like the realignment, there's always going to be one team sitting out for 3-4 days at a time. And that's no good.

Unless they're going to add 3 expansion teams to each league, or drop 3 teams from each league... who would be good candidates?


London?

/ducks
 
2012-09-13 12:05:10 PM  

phyrkrakr: Haven't looked at it yet, but this means the DH is coming to the NL...and that makes me furious.



Selig is determined to move baseball's league/team set up towards the football system, where everybody plays everybody throughout the year and the NFC/AFC dichotomy doesn't matter a whole lot except when it's time for playoffs, and everybody plays in the playoffs. To that end, the biggest obstacle is the DH not being uniform.

So, eventually, Selig is going to pull the trigger on evening out the rules between the league. And, while I'm normally pro-player as opposed to pro-owner, the players are the ones who are going to make the NL get the DH. Because they want that extra salary. Who's normally the 25th guy on an NL roster? Some shiatty bullpen pitcher or a utility infielder. Now, compare that to a DH salary - instead of a league minimum salary, you're talking another $5-10M or more player on a lot of teams. Hell, Travis Hafner is making $13M this year, and he sucks.

But goddamn, I hate the DH and I'll hate seeing it come to the NL. Doesn't look like there's anything that will stop it, though, unless this whole interleague thing falls apart at some point.


I hate to break it to you but...

The NFL only plays 4 non-conference game. That's 25% of the other conference. Baseball will be nearly half. (7/15) At least it's only 21 games - 13% of the season.

And 10 of 30 MLB teams make the playoffs. That's 33%. The NFL is only 37.5% (12 of 32)

So, in short, you're vastly over stating the position of the NFL and the MLBs basically already there.
 
2012-09-13 12:09:54 PM  
Did anyone see that the Rangers-Dbacks series in late May is a doubleheader in AZ on a monday? That's a strange way to get an off day in there.
 
2012-09-13 12:11:06 PM  
Did they put Milwaukee back in the AL? No? Eff them all then.
 
2012-09-13 12:11:20 PM  
Things that suck: The DH. Interleague play. Re-alignment. Any wild card round. The Yankees and Red Sox. All need to go.
 
2012-09-13 12:15:13 PM  

Tr0mBoNe: I wish Toronto had an actual natural rival... Colorado is ours simply by process of elimination...


As someone who weirdly loves the history of team names, Toronto's rival should obviously be Philly.

Battle of the Blue Jays:

www.ootpdevelopments.com
 
2012-09-13 12:15:43 PM  

lunchinlewis: Did they put Milwaukee back in the AL? No? Eff them all then.


Selig didn't want the Brewers to lose all the tickets they sell to Cubs fans for 9-10 home games each year.
 
2012-09-13 12:16:55 PM  

Deneb81: I hate to break it to you but...

The NFL only plays 4 non-conference game. That's 25% of the other conference. Baseball will be nearly half. (7/15) At least it's only 21 games - 13% of the season.

And 10 of 30 MLB teams make the playoffs. That's 33%. The NFL is only 37.5% (12 of 32)

So, in short, you're vastly over stating the position of the NFL and the MLBs basically already there.


Yeah, I don't follow football that closely and I haven't quite assimilated all of the changes to baseball yet. But you're right. Selig has basically accomplished his goal already, now he just needs to add the DH to the NL and his victory will be complete. Oh, and expansion teams in economically unviable areas like Oklahoma City and Charlotte, or maybe Vancouver and El Paso.

Of course, the whole problem with trying to be like the NFL is that baseball has always had a long season and a short post-season. A baseball season lasts six months and then has one month of playoffs. Football lasts four months and then has two months of playoffs. For an expanded playoffs, which Selig so obviously wants dearly, he really needs to cut some games out of the regular season, or bring back scheduled double headers. Too bad neither of those will actually happen - we'll just get more November baseball. So stupid.
 
2012-09-13 12:47:34 PM  
The A's get to play Houston 19 times a season now. I am heartily in favor of this.
 
2012-09-13 12:56:02 PM  
Subby, speaking as a Nationals fan, this season is the first since 2005 that does not suck. In fact the only thing that has sucked about 2012 baseball has been the torrent of media stories second guessing the Strasburg innings limit.
 
2012-09-13 12:57:10 PM  
MLB needs to drop to a 100 game season and do the NBA thing and have 3/4 of the teams in the postseason.
 
2012-09-13 01:03:49 PM  

eyeq360: The KC Royals will be at the bottom of the AL Central no matter what their schedule looks like. And quite possibly the worst team in baseball.


Their line-up is too good to be the worst team in baseball. And obviously you haven't been paying attention to the Astros. If they're this bad against a soft NL Central, just think how bad they will be against the AL West.

and FTFA...
The regular season will be prefaced by the third edition of the World Baseball Classic, won the first two times by Japan.

Did I miss the second WBC or was there another one that took place before or since 2009?
 
2012-09-13 01:06:16 PM  

DeWayne Mann: Tr0mBoNe: I wish Toronto had an actual natural rival... Colorado is ours simply by process of elimination...

As someone who weirdly loves the history of team names, Toronto's rival should obviously be Philly.


Until 2005, Toronto and Montreal were rivals (for the purposes of interleague play) and Baltimore and Philadelphia were rivals. This made sense due to geography.

Since the Expos became the Nationals, the rivalries have been Baltimore/Washington (due to geography) and Philadelphia/Toronto (by default).

Besides the history of the Phillies being unofficially referred to as the Blue Jays in the 1940's, the Toronto Blue Jays faced the Phillies in the 1993 World Series. While these are tenuous connections, it's better than nothing.
 
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