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(The Indy Channel)   Church puts up sign depicting two men being lynched, two slaves in shackles - with one word 'VOTE'. Not surprisingly, some people have a problem with this   (theindychannel.com) divider line 158
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2012-09-12 11:19:34 PM  
Okay, what party is wanting to do the enslaving and lynching?

Missing something here...
 
2012-09-13 12:05:40 AM  
Joyce Hise, the president of nearby Discount Casket Sales, said she connected with the message, which spurred her to register people to vote at her business.

wha?
 
2012-09-13 12:12:24 AM  
So you lose tax exempt status, right? I can only hope.
 
2012-09-13 12:14:27 AM  
Does Mary's Seafood still sell Danishes?
 
2012-09-13 12:14:34 AM  

MaudlinMutantMollusk: Joyce Hise, the president of nearby Discount Casket Sales, said she connected with the message, which spurred her to register people to vote at her business.

wha?


Well, SOMEONE'S gotta put them in coffins.
 
2012-09-13 12:15:48 AM  
Is this a repeat from 2008?
 
2012-09-13 12:16:20 AM  
i1247.photobucket.com

First one to the table.
 
2012-09-13 12:16:38 AM  
"Take it down. This is 2012," he said. "You don't supposed to do the racial thing. I don't know what it means."

Take it down ... because I don't know what it means? Huh?
 
2012-09-13 12:17:19 AM  

Sleazy_as_Pie: So you lose tax exempt status, right? I can only hope.


Since they are endorsing no candidate or party - yeah, you can only hope.
Well, you could shiat in the other hand, and see which gets full first.
 
2012-09-13 12:17:46 AM  
No leftist boogeymen. Please carry on.
 
2012-09-13 12:18:05 AM  
Haha, wow! Talk about trying to get a reaction. I'm sure they have fair points and blah balh blah but, this is the work of shock value
 
2012-09-13 12:19:45 AM  
Let's not forget the REAL victims - white boys made uncomfortable by the truth.
 
2012-09-13 12:20:37 AM  

Counter_Intelligent: MaudlinMutantMollusk: Joyce Hise, the president of nearby Discount Casket Sales, said she connected with the message, which spurred her to register people to vote at her business.

wha?

Well, SOMEONE'S gotta put them in coffins.


Well, SOMEONE'S gotta sale low priced caskets so these people. And by these people you know exactly what I mean.
 
2012-09-13 12:24:02 AM  

lelio: "Take it down. This is 2012," he said. "You don't supposed to do the racial thing. I don't know what it means."

Take it down ... because I don't know what it means? Huh?


He don't got to take it down.
 
2012-09-13 12:24:57 AM  

PreMortem: Okay, what party is wanting to do the enslaving and lynching?

Missing something here...


Republicans are racists and unless you vote Democrat, blacks will be enslaved and lynched again.
 
2012-09-13 12:26:57 AM  

AverageAmericanGuy: PreMortem: Okay, what party is wanting to do the enslaving and lynching?

Missing something here...

Republicans are racists and unless you vote Democrat, blacks will be enslaved and lynched again.


I disagree. Its black on black crime. The black church members want other black members to get lynched. The entire thing is sick.
 
2012-09-13 12:30:09 AM  
Often I'm glad I'm so apathetic. Must be shiatty to go around all the time being angry at minor things so out of one's control.
 
2012-09-13 12:30:11 AM  
People who have a problem with this are completely missing the point.
 
2012-09-13 12:31:25 AM  

jso2897: Sleazy_as_Pie: So you lose tax exempt status, right? I can only hope.

Since they are endorsing no candidate or party - yeah, you can only hope.
Well, you could shiat in the other hand, and see which gets full first.


It's a message from a religious faction to its constituency to vote in an upcoming election. That does cross the line to violating the establishment clause of the first amendment, especially since the government is subsidizing the property on which she posted the sign.
 
2012-09-13 12:31:46 AM  
Yeah, 'cause the Republicans started the KKK, my Democrat party boss told me so.
 
2012-09-13 12:32:55 AM  
Is it merely coincidence that no race was mentioned and that Joy Thornton's name was misspelled in the article causing first click googling to return no results. Chumming fresh water for sharks?

/ why yes, it is tinfoil. At least I bent the brim
 
2012-09-13 12:33:27 AM  
Using it to serve as a reminder that the african american community didn't always have the right to vote, and many perished fighting for that right. Kind of an off the beaten path approach to take to get there. Very effective to get people talking though.
 
2012-09-13 12:33:29 AM  

lelio: "Take it down. This is 2012," he said. "You don't supposed to do the racial thing. I don't know what it means."

Take it down ... because I don't know what it means? Huh?


He's white.


MaudlinMutantMollusk: Joyce Hise, the president of nearby Discount Casket Sales, said she connected with the message, which spurred her to register people to vote at her business.

wha?


She's black.

Not trying to make any particular point here.
 
2012-09-13 12:33:38 AM  
But others said they believe the message is confusing and out of touch.

"Other pictures could have been put up, other words could have been said rather than have people think, 'I'm going get hung. I'm going to get lynched, if I don't vote,'" said Mary Bishop, who owns Mary's Seafood right across the street.


I have to agree with this. What message were they trying to send? I mean, I get what they think they probably meant...but there had to be an easier, clearer way to say it.
 
2012-09-13 12:33:41 AM  

jso2897: Sleazy_as_Pie: So you lose tax exempt status, right? I can only hope.

Since they are endorsing no candidate or party - yeah, you can only hope.
Well, you could shiat in the other hand, and see which gets full first.


jso2897: Let's not forget the REAL victims - white boys made uncomfortable by the truth.


Two posts. Two minutes apart. I'm new here, but you might be a troll? I better not respond. Otherwise people might think I am a fool.
 
2012-09-13 12:33:45 AM  
What's the problem here? Some woman across the street who sells pastries completely misses the point? That's the tragedy? I mean everything else was pretty cool.
 
2012-09-13 12:34:44 AM  
I'm at a pizza hut
I'm at a taco bell

I'm at a combination pizza hut and taco bell
 
2012-09-13 12:35:36 AM  

HotWingAgenda: jso2897: Sleazy_as_Pie: So you lose tax exempt status, right? I can only hope.

Since they are endorsing no candidate or party - yeah, you can only hope.
Well, you could shiat in the other hand, and see which gets full first.

It's a message from a religious faction to its constituency to vote in an upcoming election. That does cross the line to violating the establishment clause of the first amendment, especially since the government is subsidizing the property on which she posted the sign.


Uh no. If it encouraged voting for any specific issue, measure or person, that'd be one thing. It does not.
 
2012-09-13 12:36:43 AM  
s9.postimage.org
 
2012-09-13 12:37:03 AM  
jso2897:

Let's not forget the REAL victims - white boys made uncomfortable by the truth.

This.

But it's still a church meddling in politics. If it's bad when white right-wing fundies do it then it's bad when black progressives do it.

Anyway it's not voting that ended slavery, it was the Civil War. And lynching was ended by the FBI, the same FBI that broke the Black Panthers. In all these cases these things happened because it was in the interest of the predominant sectors of the ruling classes, not the people of whatever color.

One retort to my "religion out of politics" stand is that voting and praying are of equal inefficacy. I have no answer to that.
 
2012-09-13 12:37:26 AM  

RandyJohnson: jso2897: Sleazy_as_Pie: So you lose tax exempt status, right? I can only hope.

Since they are endorsing no candidate or party - yeah, you can only hope.
Well, you could shiat in the other hand, and see which gets full first.

jso2897: Let's not forget the REAL victims - white boys made uncomfortable by the truth.

Two posts. Two minutes apart. I'm new here, but you might be a troll? I better not respond. Otherwise people might think I am a fool.


me thinks you found a troll
 
2012-09-13 12:37:29 AM  

Slam1263: Yeah, 'cause the Republicans started the KKK, my Democrat party boss told me so.


No, it was conservatives that started the KKK. It's just that the same conservative mindset happens to be held in the Republican party today.
 
2012-09-13 12:37:39 AM  

Slam1263: Yeah, 'cause the Republicans started the KKK, my Democrat party boss told me so.


Farking Southern strategy, how does that work?

/GOP lost it's moral high ground when it came to race the moment they tried to court the "Southerner who was disgruntled with the Civil Rights Act" vote.
 
2012-09-13 12:38:46 AM  

iaazathot: Slam1263: Yeah, 'cause the Republicans started the KKK, my Democrat party boss told me so.

No, it was conservatives that started the KKK. It's just that the same conservative mindset happens to be held in the Republican party today.


BS, I don't know a single republican that sides with KKK mentality.
 
2012-09-13 12:39:27 AM  

HotWingAgenda: jso2897: Sleazy_as_Pie: So you lose tax exempt status, right? I can only hope.

Since they are endorsing no candidate or party - yeah, you can only hope.
Well, you could shiat in the other hand, and see which gets full first.

It's a message from a religious faction to its constituency to vote in an upcoming election. That does cross the line to violating the establishment clause of the first amendment, especially since the government is subsidizing the property on which she posted the sign.


No, it doesn't. Educate yourself. The IRS regulations are clear, and they don't care about those made-up rules you just pulled out of your ass.
 
2012-09-13 12:39:50 AM  

The One True TheDavid: But it's still a church meddling in politics.


How?
 
2012-09-13 12:40:19 AM  

Skyred: RandyJohnson: jso2897: Sleazy_as_Pie: So you lose tax exempt status, right? I can only hope.

Since they are endorsing no candidate or party - yeah, you can only hope.
Well, you could shiat in the other hand, and see which gets full first.

jso2897: Let's not forget the REAL victims - white boys made uncomfortable by the truth.

Two posts. Two minutes apart. I'm new here, but you might be a troll? I better not respond. Otherwise people might think I am a fool.

me thinks you found a troll


We are all trolls here, my friend.
 
2012-09-13 12:40:38 AM  

Skyred: iaazathot: Slam1263: Yeah, 'cause the Republicans started the KKK, my Democrat party boss told me so.

No, it was conservatives that started the KKK. It's just that the same conservative mindset happens to be held in the Republican party today.

BS, I don't know a single republican that sides with KKK mentality.


I kid, but on a serious note that represents very few people
 
2012-09-13 12:40:58 AM  

Skyred: iaazathot: Slam1263: Yeah, 'cause the Republicans started the KKK, my Democrat party boss told me so.

No, it was conservatives that started the KKK. It's just that the same conservative mindset happens to be held in the Republican party today.

BS, I don't know a single republican that sides with KKK mentality.


I know several. Your personal experiences are nullified.
 
2012-09-13 12:41:15 AM  

Skyred: iaazathot: Slam1263: Yeah, 'cause the Republicans started the KKK, my Democrat party boss told me so.

No, it was conservatives that started the KKK. It's just that the same conservative mindset happens to be held in the Republican party today.

BS, I don't know a single republican that sides with KKK mentality.


David Duke for starters...
 
2012-09-13 12:41:58 AM  

lelio: "Take it down. This is 2012," he said. "You don't supposed to do the racial thing. I don't know what it means."

Take it down ... because I don't know what it means? Huh?


I wonder how many office beatings this article will produce when people start laughing at that slackjaw quote and the neighbors see that story on the monitor.
 
2012-09-13 12:44:04 AM  

Mrtraveler01: Skyred: iaazathot: Slam1263: Yeah, 'cause the Republicans started the KKK, my Democrat party boss told me so.

No, it was conservatives that started the KKK. It's just that the same conservative mindset happens to be held in the Republican party today.

BS, I don't know a single republican that sides with KKK mentality.

David Duke for starters...


maybe if you had his blond eyes blue hair you'd understand him
 
2012-09-13 12:44:34 AM  

Sachlpch: Using it to serve as a reminder that the african american community didn't always have the right to vote, and many perished fighting for that right. Kind of an off the beaten path approach to take to get there. Very effective to get people talking though.


Couldnt they add a woman in there to at least give it some black diversity?
 
2012-09-13 12:45:36 AM  

MaudlinMutantMollusk: Joyce Hise, the president of nearby Discount Casket Sales, said she connected with the message, which spurred her to register people to vote at her business.

wha?


They're voting in Democrat in Chicago, just like always.
 
2012-09-13 12:46:04 AM  

Skyred: Mrtraveler01: Skyred: iaazathot: Slam1263: Yeah, 'cause the Republicans started the KKK, my Democrat party boss told me so.

No, it was conservatives that started the KKK. It's just that the same conservative mindset happens to be held in the Republican party today.

BS, I don't know a single republican that sides with KKK mentality.

David Duke for starters...

maybe if you had his blond eyes blue hair you'd understand him


I don't think I could pull that look off.
 
2012-09-13 12:46:50 AM  

The Bestest: HotWingAgenda: jso2897: Sleazy_as_Pie: So you lose tax exempt status, right? I can only hope.

Since they are endorsing no candidate or party - yeah, you can only hope.
Well, you could shiat in the other hand, and see which gets full first.

It's a message from a religious faction to its constituency to vote in an upcoming election. That does cross the line to violating the establishment clause of the first amendment, especially since the government is subsidizing the property on which she posted the sign.

Uh no. If it encouraged voting for any specific issue, measure or person, that'd be one thing. It does not.


Correct. Churches hold voter registration drives all the time. I'm personally not comfortable with it, but it's not illegal.
 
2012-09-13 12:47:11 AM  
The Bestest:

Uh no. If it encouraged voting for any specific issue, measure or person, that'd be one thing. It does not.

So what person or party do you think most blacks who are moved to vote by that sign will chose to vote for?

Can you imagine Clarence Thomas posting something like that?

It's implicitly partisan. And wrong. And as much a violation of the First Amendment principle as a Catholic priest urging people not to vote for the pro-abortion candidate.

But then praying and voting have the same lack of result so, like, whatever.

And by the way, Obama's administration is to the right of Nixon's. "Progressive" my ass. The reason it looks at all "liberal" is the Republicans are batshiat: it's the difference between friendly fascism and the raving scary kind, like Coke vs. Pepsi.
 
2012-09-13 12:47:41 AM  

astroturd: Sachlpch: Using it to serve as a reminder that the african american community didn't always have the right to vote, and many perished fighting for that right. Kind of an off the beaten path approach to take to get there. Very effective to get people talking though.

Couldnt they add a woman in there to at least give it some black diversity?


You wouldn't want to get too carried away. Before you know it they'll want to get out of the kitchen.
 
2012-09-13 12:47:47 AM  
The IRS on Political Campaign Activity (PDF - p.7)

Under the Internal Revenue Code, all IRC section 501(c)(3) organizations, including churches and religious
organizations, are absolutely prohibited from directly or indirectly participating in, or intervening in, any political campaign on behalf of (or in opposition to) any candidate for elective public office. Contributions to political campaign funds or public statements of position (verbal or written) made by or on behalf of the organization in favor of or in opposition to any candidate for public office clearly violate the prohibition against political campaign activity. Violation of this prohibition may result in denial or revocation of tax-exempt status and the imposition of certain excise tax.

Certain activities or expenditures may not be prohibited depending on the facts and circumstances. For example, certain voter education activities (including the presentation of public forums and the publication of voter education guides) conducted in a non-partisan manner do not constitute prohibited political campaign activity. In addition, other activities intended to encourage people to participate in the electoral process, such as voter registration and get-out-the-vote drives, would not constitute prohibited political campaign activity if conducted in a non-partisan manner. On the other hand, voter education or registration activities with evidence of bias that: (a) would favor one candidate over another; (b) oppose a candidate in some manner; or (c) have the effect of favoring a candidate or group of candidates, will constitute prohibited participation or intervention.


My interpretation of the billboard's message is that not so long ago in the US, blacks were denied the vote. Voting is such a precious thing that it is important to exercise your civic duty.
 
2012-09-13 12:48:22 AM  

Skyred: Mrtraveler01: Skyred: iaazathot: Slam1263: Yeah, 'cause the Republicans started the KKK, my Democrat party boss told me so.

No, it was conservatives that started the KKK. It's just that the same conservative mindset happens to be held in the Republican party today.

BS, I don't know a single republican that sides with KKK mentality.

David Duke for starters...

maybe if you had his blond eyes blue hair you'd understand him


Yeah. He's a REAL victim.
 
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