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(SFGate)   Court rules that prison sex has to be consensual. So trading your cellmate for a pack of smokes won't cut it any more   (blog.sfgate.com) divider line 85
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2012-09-12 04:21:26 PM  
This case seems to apply only to guard-prisoner sex. You can still trade your cellmate.
 
2012-09-12 04:21:58 PM  
We needed a court to say that rape is illegal in prison?
 
2012-09-12 04:26:45 PM  
What was the name of that movie?
 
2012-09-12 05:06:28 PM  
Did they put any limitations on using jelly over syrup?
 
2012-09-12 05:06:56 PM  
What isn't consensual about this:

reconstitution.us
 
2012-09-12 05:07:45 PM  
So prison guards will continue to lie.
Nothing changes.
 
2012-09-12 05:07:59 PM  
I always preferred a hooker with a penis.
 
2012-09-12 05:08:03 PM  
Good. I love that song.

/Queues it up
/Turns it up
 
2012-09-12 05:08:35 PM  
Did anyone else's BS meter break while reading that article?
 
2012-09-12 05:08:42 PM  
i46.tinypic.com
 
2012-09-12 05:08:49 PM  
Still better watch your cornhole, dude.
 
2012-09-12 05:09:06 PM  
The military considers drunk sex to be non-consensual.
 
2012-09-12 05:09:23 PM  

DamnYankees: We needed a court to say that rape is illegal in prison?


It's actually bad news for private correctional corporations and prison guard unions. The litigation is going to beat them like a government mule.
 
2012-09-12 05:10:12 PM  

BarkingUnicorn: This case seems to apply only to guard-prisoner sex. You can still trade your cellmate.


Just not to a guard.
 
2012-09-12 05:10:18 PM  
Of course if it's "sex" it's consensual, but what about prison rape?
 
2012-09-12 05:10:20 PM  
"... inmate Lance Wood"

With a name like that, you can imagine he's pretty well hung.
 
2012-09-12 05:10:44 PM  
Ben Dover: Take your pants off.
Fletch: I don't even know your name.
Ben Dover: Bend over.
Fletch: Ben? Nice to meet you, Victor Hugo.
 
2012-09-12 05:11:30 PM  
Technically, if your cellmate agrees to the trade it's still consenual.

And, as a bonus, entrepreneurial.
 
2012-09-12 05:14:00 PM  
Anyone else get "OZ" flashbacks with that article?

And I am glad that male rape is being taken seriously rather than be the punchline of a joke. Especially sexual harassment from female guards.
 
2012-09-12 05:14:42 PM  
Any sex between a guard and an inmate should be defined as rape. Even if you had 'proof' of consent the fact that you are a guard gives you the ability to coerce the other person into 'giving' you consent. A prisoner certainly has a lot less ability to give consent than a 15 year old. (Of course, there are certain situations where the guard is raped, but the law would of course already cover that.)
 
2012-09-12 05:15:20 PM  
So we need a court to tell us that rape is illegal, but they "don't have time" to rule on other important causes? "Priorities"..
 
2012-09-12 05:15:57 PM  

Vangor: What isn't consensual about this:

[reconstitution.us image 530x344]


What is that?
 
2012-09-12 05:18:09 PM  
Good to know if I ever have to go to teh joint
 
2012-09-12 05:21:32 PM  
I think inmates should romance one another before jumping into sex.

A prisoner ought to, say, invite his crush over for a nice glass of toilet wine and really get to know the man beneath the antisocial monster.
 
2012-09-12 05:22:39 PM  

LandOfChocolate: Vangor: What isn't consensual about this:

[reconstitution.us image 530x344]

What is that?


Tool.
 
2012-09-12 05:23:38 PM  
There goes my next holiday idea
 
2012-09-12 05:25:19 PM  
"... Michael Anthony Archuleta, 26 (Year of Birth: 1962), a convicted felon on parole, and Lance Conway Wood, 20 (DOB: March 29, 1968), of Bountiful, Utah, who like Archuleta just had been released from Utah State Prison. Archuleta and Wood met Mr. Church, who like Wood was a Morman, in Cedar City, Utah, after Wood approached his victim in a parking lot and asked Mr. Church for a ride to Salt Lake City. In Mr. Church's 1978 Ford Thunderbird, the three men drove up Cedar Canyon where Mr. Wood was slashed twice in the neck, where his arm was broken, and where Mr. Church was raped by Archuleta on the hood of Mr. Church's car. Lance Wood and Michael Archuleta then forced Mr. Church to perform oral sex on both of them before they electrically shocked him repeatedly by attaching jumper cables to Mr. Church's testicles and hooking the cables to the car's battery. Mr. Church was next tossed into the trunk of his car and he was driven to Dog Valley where the two men kicked their helpless victim in the head and face. Archuleta also struck Mr. Church several times with a tire iron before anally raping his victim with it. The tire iron was inserted so deeply that it punctured Mr. Church's liver and other internal organs. Gordon Church was then repeatedly struck in the head with the tire iron..." 

I'm sorry life is hard for you convict... with all that unwanted touching of your weener and everything. Must have been awful for you. Hug?
 
2012-09-12 05:25:42 PM  

HoratioGates: Any sex between a guard and an inmate should be defined as rape. Even if you had 'proof' of consent the fact that you are a guard gives you the ability to coerce the other person into 'giving' you consent. A prisoner certainly has a lot less ability to give consent than a 15 year old. (Of course, there are certain situations where the guard is raped, but the law would of course already cover that.)


It is in some states. The power imbalance is so inherently coercive that Nevada, for instance, makes it a Class-A felony (IIRC, though I'm not sure of the actual class) for a guard to have sex with an inmate, even if the inmate initiated the contact. Nevada also has a law that any prisoner-on-prisoner sex is automatically rape, again, regardless of whether or not both parties enthusiastically consented.

I'm sure it will be challenged by someone more interested in civil rights than in keeping prisons as conflict-free as possible; but there you go.
 
2012-09-12 05:25:59 PM  
Surely this can't be the end of PMITA prison.
 
2012-09-12 05:26:49 PM  

HoratioGates: Any sex between a guard and an inmate should be defined as rape. Even if you had 'proof' of consent the fact that you are a guard gives you the ability to coerce the other person into 'giving' you consent. A prisoner certainly has a lot less ability to give consent than a 15 year old. (Of course, there are certain situations where the guard is raped, but the law would of course already cover that.)


You win.

Although this does pose a problem with all those "Women in Cages" flicks.
 
2012-09-12 05:27:13 PM  

LandOfChocolate: Vangor: What isn't consensual about this:

[reconstitution.us image 530x344]

What is that?


You... you're fired.
 
2012-09-12 05:29:13 PM  
Would you like some Merlot? I made it in the terlet.
 
2012-09-12 05:29:20 PM  
As long as we can still make sangria in the terlet.
 
2012-09-12 05:30:43 PM  

SomethingToDo: Would you like some Merlot? I made it in the terlet.


I_Can't_Believe_it's_not_Boutros: As long as we can still make sangria in the terlet.


So close!
 
2012-09-12 05:31:02 PM  

DamnYankees: We needed a court to say that rape is illegal in prison?

Legitimate

rape is still legal, because the victim can crap out the AIDS.
 
2012-09-12 05:32:50 PM  

HoratioGates: Any sex between a guard and an inmate should be defined as rape. Even if you had 'proof' of consent the fact that you are a guard gives you the ability to coerce the other person into 'giving' you consent. A prisoner certainly has a lot less ability to give consent than a 15 year old. (Of course, there are certain situations where the guard is raped, but the law would of course already cover that.)


I agree.
 
2012-09-12 05:33:37 PM  
Unless they're menthols.
 
2012-09-12 05:35:23 PM  

Pray 4 Mojo: "... Michael Anthony Archuleta, 26 (Year of Birth: 1962), a convicted felon on parole, and Lance Conway Wood, 20 (DOB: March 29, 1968), of Bountiful, Utah, who like Archuleta just had been released from Utah State Prison. Archuleta and Wood met Mr. Church, who like Wood was a Morman, in Cedar City, Utah, after Wood approached his victim in a parking lot and asked Mr. Church for a ride to Salt Lake City. In Mr. Church's 1978 Ford Thunderbird, the three men drove up Cedar Canyon where Mr. Wood was slashed twice in the neck, where his arm was broken, and where Mr. Church was raped by Archuleta on the hood of Mr. Church's car. Lance Wood and Michael Archuleta then forced Mr. Church to perform oral sex on both of them before they electrically shocked him repeatedly by attaching jumper cables to Mr. Church's testicles and hooking the cables to the car's battery. Mr. Church was next tossed into the trunk of his car and he was driven to Dog Valley where the two men kicked their helpless victim in the head and face. Archuleta also struck Mr. Church several times with a tire iron before anally raping his victim with it. The tire iron was inserted so deeply that it punctured Mr. Church's liver and other internal organs. Gordon Church was then repeatedly struck in the head with the tire iron..." 

I'm sorry life is hard for you convict... with all that unwanted touching of your weener and everything. Must have been awful for you. Hug?


Omg.. what the hell has to go through someone's head to do that to another human being?
 
2012-09-12 05:36:10 PM  
3.bp.blogspot.com
 
2012-09-12 05:36:30 PM  
Has anyone asked for a photo of the guard yet? Important to how I view this.
 
2012-09-12 05:36:39 PM  

sprawl15: Did they put any limitations on using jelly over syrup?


You just can't use jelly with the little seeds in it.
 
2012-09-12 05:37:12 PM  

ExperianScaresCthulhu: Omg.. what the hell has to go through someone's head to do that to another human being?


Totally... just walking into his cell and grabbing his weener. How farked up.
 
2012-09-12 05:38:20 PM  
Phew...bout time. After all, people in prison tend to follow rules.
 
2012-09-12 05:39:52 PM  
what o clock is it
good ness lioook liikee a t that e tiemeee
 
2012-09-12 05:41:04 PM  

SomethingToDo: Would you like some Merlot? I made it in the terlet.


I_Can't_Believe_it's_not_Boutros: As long as we can still make sangria in the terlet.


For the almost, almost simulpost... and making me say... "Ha ha!! 'Terlet'... he he he..." you both get to be TFers for a month. Use it wisely... or not at all... whatever. I'm not the boss of you.
 
2012-09-12 05:42:08 PM  

DamnYankees: We needed a court to say that rape is illegal in prison?


Many states, and local municipalities, have laws that say ANY sexual contact between inmates is illegal in Jails and Prisons. They're wards of the state, in the custody of the Department of Corrections. They lose the right to openly consent the moment they are sent into prison.

IIRC, this was done because it was too easy for rapists to claim consensual sex, and victims to be intimidates into silence.
 
2012-09-12 05:44:05 PM  
Thankyou, P4M. I will make it my life's mission for this month to destroy you and everything you hold dear.
 
2012-09-12 05:44:34 PM  

Vangor: What isn't consensual about this:

[reconstitution.us image 530x344]


That whole album is just soooo great.
 
2012-09-12 05:46:14 PM  

BarkingUnicorn: This case seems to apply only to guard-prisoner sex. You can still trade your cellmate.


Yeah, I thought it was now time to go on a crime spree!!!! I dont understand how they can commit crimes in this day and age of surveillance cameras, a camera in every room, hallway, and anywhere there is a spot to put one, everything on camera is a chargeable offense.

There is a reason people in prison come out as soulless animals, being beaten raped or even threatened every day of incarceration will do that to a man.
 
2012-09-12 05:46:50 PM  

SomethingToDo: Thankyou, P4M. I will make it my life's mission for this month to destroy you and everything you hold dear.


Sweet! Just don't look under my mattress.

Seriously... don't.
 
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