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(Buzzfeed)   Even top Republican advisers are coming out of the woodwork to express their dismay and astonishment over how badly Mitt Romney has -- once again -- bungled a foreign policy issue   (buzzfeed.com) divider line 573
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2012-09-13 09:44:04 AM

HellRaisingHoosier: Little Middle Eastern children have better knowledge of English then than most Americans.


Sadly, you may be right.


/jk
 
2012-09-13 09:57:51 AM

quatchi: shower_in_my_socks: quatchi: The fact that he thought he could actually score cheap political points before bodies were even in the ground shows a remarkable lack of political instincts and/or common farking sense.

Not only that, but Mitt's entire attack is a farking lie to begin with. When the shiat started hitting the fan over there, someone at the embassy Tweeted something resembling an apology for the tone of the film. That person was hoping to not farking die. THEN there was an attack.

So Rmoney is accusing Obama of an apology that HE DIDN'T MAKE, over an attack that HADN'T HAPPENED YET.

Ah, good points.

Yes, the fact that Romney tells a lie practically every time he opens his mouth and did so again in this instance cannot be over stated.

Bears. Lots of them. All that.

I just heard a blurb about Mitt's lie and poor performance on the CBC.

Started with "There was just something so unpresidential about it..."

Cut to the "akin to a apology" quote.

Didn't outright call Mitt a liar but politely noted that Mitt "got his facts wrong".

/LOL. We Canuckistanis are *so* polite.
//Offer void where NHL games are involved.

Ended with Peggy Noonan scolding Mitt for his bad choice of words.

She said, and I'm paraphrasing here, "When something hot happens you respond with cool words or no words".

That's gotta sting!


Isn't she the one that pretty much made the "stick a fork in us" remark on an open mic in 2008?

/How can someone with that much truth, lean that far right?
 
2012-09-13 10:03:19 AM
I don't want to hear about the Top Republicans Coming Out, thanks.
 
2012-09-13 10:07:41 AM

KarmicDisaster: I don't want to hear about the Top Republicans Coming Out, thanks.


Haha, yeah my first reaction to the headline was "I wonder what the bottom Republicans think about this."
 
2012-09-13 10:16:58 AM
FIVE FACTS THE MEDIA ARE DISTORTING ABOUT ROMNEY'S RESPONSE TO EMBASSY ATTACKS

The mainstream media are laboring hard to turn Gov. Mitt Romney's strong defense of American interests and values into a "gaffe" that reflects the Obama campaign's claim that Romney is somehow not ready for the foreign policy duties of the presidency. They are largely ignoring President Barack Obama's foreign policy and intelligence failures, and literally collaborating to attack Romney. 

To do so, they are obscuring five key facts:
1. Romney was right about the timing of official Obama administration reactions. Yes, the U.S. Embassy in Egypt issued empathized with the mob before the attacks, but it reiterated its statements after the attacks as well. The White House disavowed those statements--through an unnamed source, and much later on Tuesday, while the State Department issued a similar statement at the same time that failed to condemn the raid.

2. The State Department condemned the Libya attack but not the attack in Egypt. Romney's critics point out that Secretary of State Hillary Clinton did issue a statement on Tuesday night stating that "there is never any justification for violent acts of this kind." That statement did not refer to Egypt at all--only to the attack on the U.S. consulate in Libya. The only statement on the Egypt attack remained that of the embassy in Cairo.

3. Romney could not have known that the ambassador to Libya was killed. He could not have known because almost no one knew: it is likely that President Obama himself did not know. Yet he media is behaving as if Romney committed some grave act of insensitivity. Both candidate Obama and his predecessor John Kerry both exploited the known deaths of U.S. troops to attack George W. Bush without such push-back.

4. Obama, not Romney, broke the mutual pledge not to attack each other on 9/11. Contrary to what some journalists are alleging, Romney studiously avoided criticizing the President on 9/11. By contrast, the Obama campaign sent new surrogate Bill Clinton to Florida to bash Romney and running mate Paul Ryan in a hyper-partisan and false attack. Romney's statement on the attacks had been embargoed for 12:00 a.m. on 9/12.

5. The Obama administration, not the Romney campaign, bungled its message. When the White House sends a message to reporters that it does not agree with the language used by the U.S. Embassy, but the State Department reiterates very similar language, there is a contradiction that must be explained. Meanwhile, Romney stated clearly what has been always been his foreign policy. Yet he is accused of a "gaffe." 

Do not expect the mainstream media to correct these mistakes. Do not expect them to hold the Obama administration accountable. Do not expect them to correct themselves once they have some disgruntled Republicans to affirm their overall narrative. Do not expect them to remember this is an election, in which the opposition has the right--the obligation--to state its views. Do not expect them to stand up for free speech--or truth.

But do note that Romney stayed to answer journalists' questions, while Obama refused, ducking out to attend a fundraiser in Las Vegas. Romney is effectively the leader of the free world today, the man whose principled reaction to events expressed what ought to be--and used to be--the minimum Americans expect of their president. 

That we still cherish and enjoy our free press is no thanks to Obama--or the media that protect him.
 
2012-09-13 10:21:35 AM
The Secretary of State is responsible for security failures such as this:

Link
 
2012-09-13 10:24:30 AM
I'm still trying to figure out whether Obama or Romney has the higher amount of fearless dominance, Link. I always liked Teddy Roosevelt.
 
2012-09-13 10:28:54 AM
Obama used American deaths to politicize against Bush:

Link
 
2012-09-13 11:37:43 AM
Tony41454 wants to see Obama lynched.
 
2012-09-13 12:35:05 PM

tony41454: FIVE FACTS THE MEDIA ARE DISTORTING ABOUT ROMNEY'S RESPONSE TO EMBASSY ATTACKS

To do so, they are obscuring five key facts:
1. Romney was right about the timing of official Obama administration reactions.

2. The State Department condemned the Libya attack but not the attack in Egypt.

3. Romney could not have known that the ambassador to Libya was killed.

4. Obama, not Romney, broke the mutual pledge not to attack each other on 9/11.

5. The Obama administration, not the Romney campaign, bungled its message...


Hey tony, does it not bother you at all that it took the GOP SpintronTM 36 hours to come up this unclever inversion of reality?
 
2012-09-13 12:47:10 PM

StoneColdAtheist: Hey tony, does it not bother you at all that it took the GOP SpintronTM 36 hours to come up this unclever inversion of reality?


growlersoftware.com

Tony lies. His lies get corrected. He still lies

InfamousG: tony41454: FIVE FACTS THE MEDIA ARE DISTORTING ABOUT ROMNEY'S RESPONSE TO EMBASSY ATTACKS
...
To do so, they are obscuring five key facts:
1. Romney was right about the timing of official Obama administration reactions. Yes, the U.S. Embassy in Egypt issued empathized with the mob before the attacks, but it reiterated its statements after the attacks as well. The White House disavowed those statements--through an unnamed source, and much later on Tuesday, while the State Department issued a similar statement at the same time that failed to condemn the raid.

Wrong The Obama administration reaction happened early morning on 9/12. Romney's attack was late 9/11 (I read it around ~11:30p EST). The raid was condemned, but the religious freedom to create the movie was upheld. They said they reject it, but are not going to stifle it.

2. The State Department condemned the Libya attack but not the attack in Egypt. Romney's critics point out that Secretary of State Hillary Clinton did issue a statement on Tuesday night stating that "there is never any justification for violent acts of this kind." That statement did not refer to Egypt at all--only to the attack on the U.S. consulate in Libya. The only statement on the Egypt attack remained that of the embassy in Cairo.
I have not read enough about the Cairo attack to address this.

3. Romney could not have known that the ambassador to Libya was killed. He could not have known because almost no one knew: it is likely that President Obama himself did not know. Yet he media is behaving as if Romney committed some grave act of insensitivity. Both candidate Obama and his predecessor John Kerry both exploited the known deaths of U.S. troops to attack George W. Bush without such push-back.
Half-True Romney knew an American was killed. His statement said: "I'm outraged by the attacks o... and by the death of an American consulate worker in Benghazi" Still chose to follow up his outrage with an attack on Obama.

4. Obama, not Romney, broke the mutual pledge not to attack each other on 9/11. Contrary to what some journalists are alleging, Romney studiously avoided criticizing the President on 9/11. By contrast, the Obama campaign sent new surrogate Bill Clinton to Florida to bash Romney and running mate Paul Ryan in a hyper-partisan and false attack. Romney's statement on the attacks had been embargoed for 12:00 a.m. on 9/12
False Clinton did not attack Romney during his speech. He told people to vote. Romney's statement was embargoed until 12, then the campaign lifted the embargo at At 10:26 p.m. ET on 9/11.

5. The Obama administration, not the Romney campaign, bungled its message. When the White House sends a message to reporters that it does not agree with the language used by the U.S. Embassy, but the State Department reiterates very similar language, there is a contradiction that must be explained. Meanwhile, Romney stated clearly what has been always been his foreign policy. Yet he is accused of a "gaffe."
False The timeline I have seen shows a clear path of order. Romney's "gaffe" is that he stated earlier in the day that there shouldn't be criticisms and attacks going either way, then later pens an attack on the president.

 
2012-09-13 12:51:41 PM

StoneColdAtheist: tony41454: FIVE FACTS THE MEDIA ARE DISTORTING ABOUT ROMNEY'S RESPONSE TO EMBASSY ATTACKS

To do so, they are obscuring five key facts:
1. Romney was right about the timing of official Obama administration reactions.

2. The State Department condemned the Libya attack but not the attack in Egypt.

3. Romney could not have known that the ambassador to Libya was killed.

4. Obama, not Romney, broke the mutual pledge not to attack each other on 9/11.

5. The Obama administration, not the Romney campaign, bungled its message...

Hey tony, does it not bother you at all that it took the GOP SpintronTM 36 hours to come up this unclever inversion of reality?


It's not revisionism, it's retroactive storytelling...
 
2012-09-13 12:52:17 PM

InfamousG: tony41454: FIVE FACTS THE MEDIA ARE DISTORTING ABOUT ROMNEY'S RESPONSE TO EMBASSY ATTACKS
...
To do so, they are obscuring five key facts:
1. Romney was right about the timing of official Obama administration reactions. Yes, the U.S. Embassy in Egypt issued empathized with the mob before the attacks, but it reiterated its statements after the attacks as well. The White House disavowed those statements--through an unnamed source, and much later on Tuesday, while the State Department issued a similar statement at the same time that failed to condemn the raid.

Wrong The Obama administration reaction happened early morning on 9/12. Romney's attack was late 9/11 (I read it around ~11:30p EST). The raid was condemned, but the religious freedom to create the movie was upheld. They said they reject it, but are not going to stifle it.

2. The State Department condemned the Libya attack but not the attack in Egypt. Romney's critics point out that Secretary of State Hillary Clinton did issue a statement on Tuesday night stating that "there is never any justification for violent acts of this kind." That statement did not refer to Egypt at all--only to the attack on the U.S. consulate in Libya. The only statement on the Egypt attack remained that of the embassy in Cairo.
I have not read enough about the Cairo attack to address this.


No Americans killed in Cairo. Flag was destroyed but one can do that here, protected by the First Amendment.

3. Romney could not have known that the ambassador to Libya was killed. He could not have known because almost no one knew: it is likely that President Obama himself did not know. Yet he media is behaving as if Romney committed some grave act of insensitivity. Both candidate Obama and his predecessor John Kerry both exploited the known deaths of U.S. troops to attack George W. Bush without such push-back.
Half-True Romney knew an American was killed. His statement said: "I'm outraged by the attacks o... and by the death of an American consulate worker in Benghazi" Still chose to follow up his outrage with an attack on Obama.

4. Obama, not Romney, broke the mutual pledge not to attack each other on 9/11. Contrary to what some journalists are alleging, Romney studiously avoided criticizing the President on 9/11. By contrast, the Obama campaign sent new surrogate Bill Clinton to Florida to bash Romney and running mate Paul Ryan in a hyper-partisan and false attack. Romney's statement on the attacks had been embargoed for 12:00 a.m. on 9/12
False Clinton did not attack Romney during his speech. He told people to vote. Romney's statement was embargoed until 12, then the campaign lifted the embargo at At 10:26 p.m. ET on 9/11.

5. The Obama administration, not the Romney campaign, bungled its message. When the White House sends a message to reporters that it does not agree with the language used by the U.S. Embassy, but the State Department reiterates very similar language, there is a contradiction that must be explained. Meanwhile, Romney stated clearly what has been always been his foreign policy. Yet he is accused of a "gaffe."
False The timeline I have seen shows a clear path of order. Romney's "gaffe" is that he stated earlier in the day that there shouldn't be criticisms and attacks going either way, then later pens an attack on the president. 
 
2012-09-13 01:20:24 PM

impaler: StoneColdAtheist: Hey tony, does it not bother you at all that it took the GOP SpintronTM 36 hours to come up this unclever inversion of reality?

Tony lies. His lies get corrected. He still lies


**Hangs head in shame...promises to pay more attention in future.**

hubiestubert: StoneColdAtheist: Hey tony, does it not bother you at all that it took the GOP SpintronTM 36 hours to come up this unclever inversion of reality?

It's not revisionism, it's retroactive storytelling...


That right there is some funny shiat! :^)
 
2012-09-13 01:29:46 PM
I'm sorry that so many of you are so stupid as to not recognize the truth. Suddenly the truth will hit you early in November.
 
2012-09-13 01:45:18 PM

tony41454: I'm sorry that so many of you are so stupid as to not recognize the truth. Suddenly the truth will hit you early in November.


And when Romney loses in Novenmber, will you promise to leave this site so we can be rid of your legitimate hatemongering, your public wet dreams of Obama's assassination, and your overall being a horrible example of a human being?
 
2012-09-13 04:09:04 PM
This is an exceptionally handy thread for identifying, labeling, and ignoring the biggest shills on Fark. We can have reasonable disagreements about a lot of things but you guys propping Mitt up on this are something else.
 
2012-09-13 04:25:05 PM

DarnoKonrad: I thought his comments were out of place, and then I saw his smirking pictures.  Mitt's turning into what I imagine the douche nozzles I have on ignore are like outside of Fark.


You just saw the smirking leer of the teenage Willard Romney who could only obtain an erection by tormenting gay classmates.
 
2012-09-13 04:29:45 PM

tony41454: I'm sorry that so many of you are so stupid as to not recognize the truth. Suddenly the truth will hit you early in November.


{ohwaityoureserious.jpg]
 
2012-09-13 04:56:24 PM

extroverted_suicide: You just saw the smirking leer of the teenage Willard Romney who could only obtain an erection by tormenting gay classmates.


Their honeymoon must've been really awkward.
 
2012-09-13 04:59:24 PM

skullkrusher: coeyagi: jchuffyman: Damn, I don't know if this statement has been put into consideration yet or not, but Nate Silver's Now-cast has Romney with an 8.4% chance of winning. And he only has 19% for the Nov.6 Forecast as well.

Brutal

Romney - bringing the dick cheese to a vegan fondue.

that doesn't make any sense, dude


But I still loved it and will probably steal it at some point.
 
2012-09-13 08:10:03 PM

tony41454: I'm sorry that so many of you are so stupid as to not recognize the truth. Suddenly the truth will hit you early in November.


You know, I hear prescription drug abuse is a serious problem. It even caught up Rush Limbaugh in its tentacles.

What I don't understand is how Republicans pull this off.

In short, how do you talk your doctors into prescribing unlimited amounts of opiates? This is the America I want to live in.
 
2012-09-13 08:13:06 PM

djkutch: tony41454: I'm sorry that so many of you are so stupid as to not recognize the truth. Suddenly the truth will hit you early in November.

You know, I hear prescription drug abuse is a serious problem. It even caught up Rush Limbaugh in its tentacles.

What I don't understand is how Republicans pull this off.

In short, how do you talk your doctors into prescribing unlimited amounts of opiates? This is the America I want to live in.


Probably the multiple death threats he issued to Obama here.
 
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