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2012-09-12 05:21:25 PM  
Republicans: So crazy that the mere prospect of them getting elected someday might very well start Cold War II.

Thanks a lot you wingnut farks.
 
2012-09-12 05:22:09 PM  
More evidence that Mitt is a total dipshiat? Very surprising indeed.
 
2012-09-12 05:23:31 PM  

Isitoveryet:
/seriously America, please don't elect this "business man" he's Republicans, they've got no business in office.


FTFY. The modern Republican party is a diseased, rotting husk of what it once was, It needs to collapse so a party NOT infested with lunatics and assholes can take its place.
 
2012-09-12 05:28:35 PM  
Romney should be declared a superfund site.
 
2012-09-12 05:28:38 PM  
i1087.photobucket.com
Mitt Romney is turning out to be Frank Burns.
 
2012-09-12 05:29:03 PM  
This ought to make the teahead party heads asplode, "Commies endorse Romney"
 
2012-09-12 05:31:04 PM  

missiv: Mitt Romney is turning out to be Frank Burns.


The love child of Frank Burns and Monty Burns.
 
2012-09-12 05:34:15 PM  
I know I'm dating myself, but I haven't seen a campaign run this badly since Mondale/Ferraro. Weak candidates, no sense of direction, rhetoric tripping over itself every other day, and more gaffes than the Biden family reunion.

This is what happens when your party is so split between traditional "small-c" conservatives and reactionary teabaggers that you can't even create a cohesive national agenda or a consistent message. It's no wonder RMoney is all over the scale on the issues. He's like a teenager trying to please both parents while they hammer out who gets custody in the divorce.

On one hand, I'm very pleased that there's really no practical model that shows a chance of him winning, but on the other hand I think it would be nice to have a viable candidate who can at least elevate the dialogue on major policy issues and broaden the idea pool. He'd never admit it, but I suspect Obama feels the same way. He strikes me as someone who'd rather have his ideas intelligently challenged so they can be reinforced or refined as needed, instead of having no true political counterpart worth even listening to.
 
2012-09-12 05:36:02 PM  
They've managed to find someone more clueless an inept than Condi to speak about foreign policy.
 
2012-09-12 05:37:40 PM  

Fluorescent Testicle: missiv: Mitt Romney is turning out to be Frank Burns.

The love child of Frank Burns and Monty Burns.



Yes, obviously a genuine "love" child, since if it was legitemate rape....
 
2012-09-12 05:38:36 PM  
Jesus Christ Romney is so farking embarrassing to me just as an American. I can't imagine how the republicans feel.
 
2012-09-12 05:39:37 PM  

HotWingConspiracy: They've managed to find someone more clueless an inept than Condi to speak about foreign policy.


To be fair, Condi started to sound a helluva lot smarter once she no longer had to publicly back her boss's positions and was able to give her own opinions as a private citizen.
 
2012-09-12 05:40:07 PM  

Satanic_Hamster: hubiestubert: Didn't work out so well, and when the Georgians eventually got to the gumption to renew the old arguments and make moves on the turf again, they were apparently heartened by the resistance, thinking that they could turn it into a beef that they could then roll on. Crazy terrorists and all. Up until they started rolling tanks onto civilians. The UN was still dithering, and McCain was making mutterings about the Evil Empire. Never mind ethnic cleansing. Never mind using the military to clear out civilians. Never mind tanks and government land seizures, and again a UN working on crafting some strongly worded letters, and a US Administration that seemed none too concerned. So, while there was posturing and quibbling and grand statements made, the Russians rolled tanks out against the Georgian tanks to put an end to that sh*t.

And you know what? They were right. They did so to protect folks who had dual citizenship, and to protect their borders, and stop ethnic cleansing before it got a good swing. And what did McCain do? He sided with the folks who rolling tanks onto their civilians.

I still don't understand one thing, though; why was Georgia so incompetent during this? I mean, they fired directly on Russian forces with multiple tank divisions just sitting there waiting for something to happen. Is their intelligence so bad they didn't know about what, four Russian armored divisions parked in soccer fields? Hell, freaking BBC knew the armored divisions were there. Did the Bush administration, who were buddies with Georgia, not bother to tell them either? Did they just think the Rooskies would back down? Or did they believe Cheney's claims the US government would go to war against Russia to protect them?

I mean, the hell.


I think he really did believe that NATO would be on the way. Seen that picture of him on the phone chewing on his tie? I imagine that is him juuust starting to get nervous as he waits for the American diplomat he called to stop laughing.
 
2012-09-12 05:41:18 PM  
Mittney Spears - "Oops, I Did it Again"
 
2012-09-12 05:41:28 PM  

ManateeGag: Voiceofreason01: Romney, "What do you mean it's over?"

Nothing is over until WE decide it is! Was it over when the Germans bombed Pearl Harbor?


Germans?
 
2012-09-12 05:41:54 PM  

Lost Thought 00: Mitt Romney would destroy the US's standing in the world. His mindless belligerence is more likely to bring about the destruction of the US than it is to save it.


Rapture time!
 
2012-09-12 05:44:24 PM  
Today isn't even over. Let's watch.
 
2012-09-12 05:46:29 PM  
Obama should make a statement on how he's so sorry about hurting Putin's feelings.
 
2012-09-12 05:47:01 PM  
OUCH! That's gonna leave a mark.
 
2012-09-12 05:47:15 PM  

Satanic_Hamster: I still don't understand one thing, though; why was Georgia so incompetent during this? I mean, they fired directly on Russian forces with multiple tank divisions just sitting there waiting for something to happen. Is their intelligence so bad they didn't know about what, four Russian armored divisions parked in soccer fields? Hell, freaking BBC knew the armored divisions were there. Did the Bush administration, who were buddies with Georgia, not bother to tell them either? Did they just think the Rooskies would back down? Or did they believe Cheney's claims the US government would go to war against Russia to protect them?


IIRC, at the time Georgia was flirting with NATO membership, and after it all died down the president of Georgia confessed either (can't remember which) that he thought NATO would go to bat for him, or that Russia would stay out for fear of US reprisals.

And that's when he learned that no matter what the US says, no matter how nice we are, there's maybe like 5 scenarios that will get America to throw down with Russia, and Georgia getting its ass beat ain't one of them.

We're all like, "Georgia? Never heard of it. You mean Georgia like Atlanta, Georgia? Cause I'm looking at the Georgia Dome right now and there's no tanks here. Prank caller, prank caller!"
 
2012-09-12 05:47:44 PM  

Mugato: Jesus Christ Romney is so farking embarrassing to me just as an American. I can't imagine how the republicans feel.


I imagine they are beginning to come to grips with the fact that far-right conservatism is inexorably sliding towards the wrong side of history. It must be vary confusing, disillusioning and anger-inducing. I think it also explains the marked uptick in the vitriol and blatant falsehoods coming from right wing pundits these days. It's almost like a defense mechanism that the more danger your ideology is in, the louder you get.
 
2012-09-12 05:48:27 PM  

foo monkey: Germans?


Animal House reference
 
2012-09-12 05:49:51 PM  
Apparently Russia can see how dumb some Americans are from their house.
 
2012-09-12 05:51:06 PM  

xria: foo monkey: Germans?

Animal House reference


The proper response was "forget it, he's rolling"
 
2012-09-12 05:51:49 PM  

Highroller48: I know I'm dating myself, but I haven't seen a campaign run this badly since Mondale/Ferraro. Weak candidates, no sense of direction, rhetoric tripping over itself every other day, and more gaffes than the Biden family reunion.

This is what happens when your party is so split between traditional "small-c" conservatives and reactionary teabaggers that you can't even create a cohesive national agenda or a consistent message. It's no wonder RMoney is all over the scale on the issues. He's like a teenager trying to please both parents while they hammer out who gets custody in the divorce.

On one hand, I'm very pleased that there's really no practical model that shows a chance of him winning, but on the other hand I think it would be nice to have a viable candidate who can at least elevate the dialogue on major policy issues and broaden the idea pool. He'd never admit it, but I suspect Obama feels the same way. He strikes me as someone who'd rather have his ideas intelligently challenged so they can be reinforced or refined as needed, instead of having no true political counterpart worth even listening to.


Was the Mondale campaign really that bad or was the Reagan campaign that good? I'm barely old enough to remember 1984, but it seems like running against Reagan that year was like running against Usain Bolt. You're going to get spanked regardless of how well you do.
 
2012-09-12 05:52:58 PM  

Mugato: Jesus Christ Romney is so farking embarrassing to me just as an American. I can't imagine how the republicans feel.


As a party, they don't really care, as long as he wins. There are just enough mindless vote-Republican-no-matter-what folks out there to put him in office, too.

He's just a candidate right now. Imagine what it's going to be like if/when he becomes president.
 
2012-09-12 05:54:49 PM  

Maud Dib: This kinda sums up today.

[i14.photobucket.com image 750x563]

It's almost time to go drink some beer. A lot of beer.


I always get a chuckle when that one comes up, not just because it's one of mine, but often because it's hotlinked right outta mah Bukket...

Gyrfalcon: Have I told you lately I want to marry you?


Hey, you gotta buy me a drink first. I'm easy, not cheap.
 
2012-09-12 05:55:48 PM  

Fark Me To Tears: Mugato: Jesus Christ Romney is so farking embarrassing to me just as an American. I can't imagine how the republicans feel.

As a party, they don't really care, as long as he wins. There are just enough mindless vote-Republican-no-matter-what folks out there to put him in office, too.

He's just a candidate right now. Imagine what it's going to be like if/when he becomes president.


for the record, i have 2 right leaning voters who have come out in support of President Obama this election cycle.
both female & religious, i mean as religious as Catholics are willing to be.
 
2012-09-12 05:58:39 PM  

Gyrfalcon: Fluorescent Testicle: Diogenes: Seriously, hubie - I'm thinking we should run you.

Oh, and this. I'd vote for him.

Hubie is everything the republican party used to be.

He'd have to run as a Democrat.


Modern Whig mebbee. I like the platform, but their traction and momentum get ett up, but they seem like good folks, over all. Some Libertarians in the wings, and a few fringe types, but overall, sane, whereas the TEA Party invited as many nuts and kooks as possible...
 
2012-09-12 05:59:21 PM  

Isitoveryet: for the record, i have 2 right leaning voters who have come out in support of President Obama this election cycle.
both female & religious, i mean as religious as Catholics are willing to be.


So you mean not all that religious...
 
2012-09-12 06:03:29 PM  
More crap from TPM...

webpages.charter.net
 
2012-09-12 06:04:28 PM  

jst3p: Isitoveryet: for the record, i have 2 right leaning voters who have come out in support of President Obama this election cycle.
both female & religious, i mean as religious as Catholics are willing to be.

So you mean not all that religious...


hah!
they know the songs and the ceremonies and actually go in to a church from time to time.
 
2012-09-12 06:04:39 PM  
"The most important thing for us is that even if he doesn't win now, he or a person with similar views may come to power in four years. We must take that into consideration while dealing with security issues for a long perspective,"

This is far too easy to spin. If I were a Republican publicist here's how I would do it.

"Putin thinks Obama will win this election. He believes Obama is the right choice for America. Do you want America's enemy Vladimir Putin as the best friend of your President? Not for our sakes. Not for our children's sake. Stop the Russian take over of American politics. Vote Mitt Romney this November".

Or if you want to go another route:
"While Alaska was keeping watch to keep Putin from rearing his head at our back door, but Obama was busy letting him in the front door. Vote Mitt Romney. Stop the red menace."

It's far Far FAR too easy to spin this quote.
 
2012-09-12 06:08:56 PM  

shotglasss: More crap from TPM...

[webpages.charter.net image 500x500]


RIA Link
ABC Link
CSM Link

Are those better for you?
 
2012-09-12 06:16:05 PM  

lennavan: "The most important thing for us is that even if he doesn't win now, he or a person with similar views may come to power in four years. We must take that into consideration while dealing with security issues for a long perspective," he said, speaking after a meeting with Serbian President Tomislav Nikolic, according to Interfax news agency.

Holy farking shiat. This would be hilarious if it didn't come with huge national security implications.


I imagine someone in Iran was thinking along those same lines when we invaded Iraq for no reason, I know I would have been.
 
2012-09-12 06:28:35 PM  

hubiestubert: Maud Dib: This kinda sums up today.

[i14.photobucket.com image 750x563]

It's almost time to go drink some beer. A lot of beer.

I always get a chuckle when that one comes up, not just because it's one of mine, but often because it's hotlinked right outta mah Bukket...

Gyrfalcon: Have I told you lately I want to marry you?

Hey, you gotta buy me a drink first. I'm easy, not cheap.


Whatever it takes to get you into my bed, you conservative darling. But I like the lights on so I can see the mirror.
 
2012-09-12 06:29:52 PM  
I'm warning you all ahead of time, but I'm about to ask a really, really stupid question.

HOW THE FARK IS THIS MAN GOING TO GET 48% OF THE VOTE IN NOVEMBER?! HOW?!

Sorry, back to your regularly scheduled thread.
 
2012-09-12 06:32:10 PM  

Gyrfalcon: hubiestubert: Maud Dib: This kinda sums up today.

[i14.photobucket.com image 750x563]

It's almost time to go drink some beer. A lot of beer.

I always get a chuckle when that one comes up, not just because it's one of mine, but often because it's hotlinked right outta mah Bukket...

Gyrfalcon: Have I told you lately I want to marry you?

Hey, you gotta buy me a drink first. I'm easy, not cheap.

Whatever it takes to get you into my bed, you conservative darling. But I like the lights on so I can see the mirror.


Aww shucks...

/eip
 
2012-09-12 06:32:23 PM  

Coco LaFemme: I'm warning you all ahead of time, but I'm about to ask a really, really stupid question.

HOW THE FARK IS THIS MAN GOING TO GET 48% OF THE VOTE IN NOVEMBER?! HOW?!

Sorry, back to your regularly scheduled thread.


Because he's not a Democrat. That's all the reason a good portion of the population needs. Of course there's also the "both Republicans and Democrats are bad, so vote Ron Paul" section of the population which should steal some votes from both candidates since they are equally as evil.
 
2012-09-12 06:33:10 PM  
A Romney administration will get us another war. With whom, and whether it'll be on purpose or on accident, are the only questions.
 
2012-09-12 06:33:37 PM  

degenerate-afro: Coco LaFemme: I'm warning you all ahead of time, but I'm about to ask a really, really stupid question.

HOW THE FARK IS THIS MAN GOING TO GET 48% OF THE VOTE IN NOVEMBER?! HOW?!

Sorry, back to your regularly scheduled thread.

Because he's not a Democrat. That's all the reason a good portion of the population needs. Of course there's also the "both Republicans and Democrats are bad, so vote Ron Paul" section of the population which should steal some votes from both candidates since they are equally as evil.


There's also a not-insignificant number of people who just don't like that the President is near.
 
2012-09-12 06:37:36 PM  
Sorry, I should have put in a slashie that my question was essentially a joke. I know why he's going to get 48% of the vote in November. I'm just dumbfounded by how retarded nearly half our electorate is. I say electorate rather than country because not everyone who can vote, does. Those people are even more retarded than the people who are voting for Mitt Romney.
 
2012-09-12 06:42:11 PM  

Coco LaFemme: HOW THE FARK IS THIS MAN GOING TO GET 48% OF THE VOTE IN NOVEMBER?! HOW?!


upload.wikimedia.org
 
2012-09-12 06:45:08 PM  

shower_in_my_socks: A Romney administration will get us another war. With whom, and whether it'll be on purpose or on accident, are the only questions.


Well Iran is a given. That's practically in writing. He's already said that Israel will control our foreign policy in the region. So them and Syria is also a good bet. Egypt, maybe. The bottom line is that no matter what you think about bullshiat social issues like gay marriage letting the colourds share our drinking fountains, the bottom line is that a Romney Presidency means a shiatload more dead troops for other people's economic interests. So think about that, all of you with your magnetic ribbons on your cars, talking bullshiat about praying for our troops.
 
2012-09-12 06:48:31 PM  

Lando Lincoln: [www.getyourfilmfix.com image 350x261]
FORGET IT, ROMNEY - YOU'RE OUT OF YOUR ELEMENT


SHUT THE FARK UP, ROMNEY!

/Sadly, I don't know if this meme has legs...
 
2012-09-12 07:01:28 PM  
Even Putin is trolling this DBag. Excellent.
 
2012-09-12 07:04:46 PM  

Gyrfalcon: hubiestubert: Diogenes: vpb: Romney's supporters want it that way anyway, so no big deal.

Bingo.

Not only are they stuck in "red threat" mentality, a new arms race with Russia will do wonders for defense contractors.

This is about the point where McCain lost my support last go around. The Ossetian Crisis had been building for some time. In fairness, the Ossetians were the ones who invited the assistance of the Bolsheviks back in the day, because the Georgians were starting up a push to remove them from their homes, just take their land, and fill ditches with their corpses. The USSR kept that in check, and when the USSR broke up, and Georgia was granted autonomy, the Russians kept a piece of Ossetia, and granted a good number of them dual citizenship--thinking that if there were a bunch of Russian citizens running around, the Georgians might think twice about trying to clean the area out again. Especially with so many Ossetians still working across the border, and with families there as well.

Didn't work out so well, and when the Georgians eventually got to the gumption to renew the old arguments and make moves on the turf again, they were apparently heartened by the resistance, thinking that they could turn it into a beef that they could then roll on. Crazy terrorists and all. Up until they started rolling tanks onto civilians. The UN was still dithering, and McCain was making mutterings about the Evil Empire. Never mind ethnic cleansing. Never mind using the military to clear out civilians. Never mind tanks and government land seizures, and again a UN working on crafting some strongly worded letters, and a US Administration that seemed none too concerned. So, while there was posturing and quibbling and grand statements made, the Russians rolled tanks out against the Georgian tanks to put an end to that sh*t.

And you know what? They were right. They did so to protect folks who had dual citizenship, and to protect their borders, and stop ethnic cleansing before ...


I farking love you man. seriously, someone said that we should run you for President. Since I have no power to do that, I'm going to give you some totalfark.
 
2012-09-12 07:04:59 PM  

degenerate-afro: "The most important thing for us is that even if he doesn't win now, he or a person with similar views may come to power in four years. We must take that into consideration while dealing with security issues for a long perspective,"

This is far too easy to spin. If I were a Republican publicist here's how I would do it.

"Putin thinks Obama will win this election. He believes Obama is the right choice for America. Do you want America's enemy Vladimir Putin as the best friend of your President? Not for our sakes. Not for our children's sake. Stop the Russian take over of American politics. Vote Mitt Romney this November".

Or if you want to go another route:
"While Alaska was keeping watch to keep Putin from rearing his head at our back door, but Obama was busy letting him in the front door. Vote Mitt Romney. Stop the red menace."

It's far Far FAR too easy to spin this quote.


I am not sure Putin would care at all whether is was spun or not, it is for home consumption - keeping up support for taxes/military spending (and maybe a bit will accidentally fall into a numbered account he happens to know the details of by coincidence).via the US bogeyman.

Obviously it is actually just as natural to interpret that he is saying that Romney is more likely to win instead of the selected reading of his quote, although ignoring facts and mangling quotes is par for the course by now. To be honest, the way the GOP is campaigning they could just get Fox to claim Putin personally endorsed Obama even if he had never talked about Obama or Romney in his entire life, so it doesn't seem particularly relevant that a quote can be spun when reality is no part of their strategy.
 
2012-09-12 07:10:46 PM  

AlteredChemical: Gyrfalcon: hubiestubert: Diogenes: vpb: Romney's supporters want it that way anyway, so no big deal.

Bingo.

Not only are they stuck in "red threat" mentality, a new arms race with Russia will do wonders for defense contractors.

This is about the point where McCain lost my support last go around. The Ossetian Crisis had been building for some time. In fairness, the Ossetians were the ones who invited the assistance of the Bolsheviks back in the day, because the Georgians were starting up a push to remove them from their homes, just take their land, and fill ditches with their corpses. The USSR kept that in check, and when the USSR broke up, and Georgia was granted autonomy, the Russians kept a piece of Ossetia, and granted a good number of them dual citizenship--thinking that if there were a bunch of Russian citizens running around, the Georgians might think twice about trying to clean the area out again. Especially with so many Ossetians still working across the border, and with families there as well.

Didn't work out so well, and when the Georgians eventually got to the gumption to renew the old arguments and make moves on the turf again, they were apparently heartened by the resistance, thinking that they could turn it into a beef that they could then roll on. Crazy terrorists and all. Up until they started rolling tanks onto civilians. The UN was still dithering, and McCain was making mutterings about the Evil Empire. Never mind ethnic cleansing. Never mind using the military to clear out civilians. Never mind tanks and government land seizures, and again a UN working on crafting some strongly worded letters, and a US Administration that seemed none too concerned. So, while there was posturing and quibbling and grand statements made, the Russians rolled tanks out against the Georgian tanks to put an end to that sh*t.

And you know what? They were right. They did so to protect folks who had dual citizenship, and to protect their borders, and stop ethnic cleans ...


Ok, nevermind. Sorry, I'm still kinda new with this totalfark thing and didn't know better. You still have my kudos though.
 
2012-09-12 07:17:54 PM  
ThatsEnoughMittRomney.jpg
 
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