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2012-09-12 01:48:01 PM  
Romney, "What do you mean it's over?"
 
2012-09-12 01:54:00 PM  

Voiceofreason01: Romney, "What do you mean it's over?"


Nothing is over until WE decide it is! Was it over when the Germans bombed Pearl Harbor?
 
2012-09-12 01:54:51 PM  
Nice farking work, Mittens.

Re-ignite the cold war, you farking novice.
 
2012-09-12 01:56:27 PM  
All of Romney's statements should be given with the disclaimer "This is paid advertising and does not necessarily reflect the views and opinions of the United States."
 
2012-09-12 02:16:04 PM  
Russia's President Vladimir Putin on Tuesday said he was "grateful" to Mitt Romney for saying Russia remained the United States' "No. 1 geopolitical foe" because the remark actually helped Putin in missile defense negotiations

Can you even imagine if Putin said that about Obama? There would already be commercials all over the country about it. Actually I'm sure Mitt and his friends can somehow make the quote as is into an Obama attack ad.
 
2012-09-12 02:18:51 PM  
Good job, dumbshiat.
 
2012-09-12 02:37:00 PM  

sweetmelissa31: Russia's President Vladimir Putin on Tuesday said he was "grateful" to Mitt Romney for saying Russia remained the United States' "No. 1 geopolitical foe" because the remark actually helped Putin in missile defense negotiations

Can you even imagine if Putin said that about Obama? There would already be commercials all over the country about it. Actually I'm sure Mitt and his friends can somehow make the quote as is into an Obama attack ad.


This will no doubt be taken as proof that Willard's original statement was right. Look at those nasty Russians with the missles and stuff, threatening the USA.
 
2012-09-12 02:45:09 PM  

sweetmelissa31: Russia's President Vladimir Putin on Tuesday said he was "grateful" to Mitt Romney for saying Russia remained the United States' "No. 1 geopolitical foe" because the remark actually helped Putin in missile defense negotiations

Can you even imagine if Putin said that about Obama? There would already be commercials all over the country about it. Actually I'm sure Mitt and his friends can somehow make the quote as is into an Obama attack ad.


Mittbot will interpret the data to show that he was correct when he commented about the dangers of Russia. To his program parameters, this computes as post hoc ergo procter hoc. He finds no fault with what he did.
 
2012-09-12 02:47:15 PM  

sweetmelissa31: Russia's President Vladimir Putin on Tuesday said he was "grateful" to Mitt Romney for saying Russia remained the United States' "No. 1 geopolitical foe" because the remark actually helped Putin in missile defense negotiations

Can you even imagine if Putin said that about Obama? There would already be commercials all over the country about it. Actually I'm sure Mitt and his friends can somehow make the quote as is into an Obama attack ad.


I seem to recall the entire GOP screaming bloody murder because Pelosi was taking an international trip and they were demanding she be muzzled because she MIGHT influence international standing.

Mitt is actually helping Russia against the United States, which I suppose is just normal for him to help every other country besides his own.
 
vpb [TotalFark]
2012-09-12 02:54:02 PM  
Romney's supporters want it that way anyway, so no big deal.
 
2012-09-12 03:09:41 PM  
I'm glad Romney wants to increase military spending even more than the Pentagon wants it expanded, because if he's president, we're going to need it.
 
2012-09-12 03:43:29 PM  

vpb: Romney's supporters want it that way anyway, so no big deal.


Bingo.

Not only are they stuck in "red threat" mentality, a new arms race with Russia will do wonders for defense contractors.
 
2012-09-12 04:28:11 PM  
Mitt's attempts to look Presidential and a policy wonk would be amusing, if he wasn't actually interviewing for the top executive position in our government.

At this point, you have to wonder if he's said, "Screw it, I'm just going to tank this thing, so I can get back to running jobs overseas the old fashioned way..."
 
2012-09-12 04:30:20 PM  
A community organizer is making the Republican look like a nervous student council president candidate. Suck on that GOP!
 
2012-09-12 04:30:42 PM  
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FORGET IT, ROMNEY - YOU'RE OUT OF YOUR ELEMENT
 
2012-09-12 04:43:08 PM  

Diogenes: vpb: Romney's supporters want it that way anyway, so no big deal.

Bingo.

Not only are they stuck in "red threat" mentality, a new arms race with Russia will do wonders for defense contractors.


This is about the point where McCain lost my support last go around. The Ossetian Crisis had been building for some time. In fairness, the Ossetians were the ones who invited the assistance of the Bolsheviks back in the day, because the Georgians were starting up a push to remove them from their homes, just take their land, and fill ditches with their corpses. The USSR kept that in check, and when the USSR broke up, and Georgia was granted autonomy, the Russians kept a piece of Ossetia, and granted a good number of them dual citizenship--thinking that if there were a bunch of Russian citizens running around, the Georgians might think twice about trying to clean the area out again. Especially with so many Ossetians still working across the border, and with families there as well.

Didn't work out so well, and when the Georgians eventually got to the gumption to renew the old arguments and make moves on the turf again, they were apparently heartened by the resistance, thinking that they could turn it into a beef that they could then roll on. Crazy terrorists and all. Up until they started rolling tanks onto civilians. The UN was still dithering, and McCain was making mutterings about the Evil Empire. Never mind ethnic cleansing. Never mind using the military to clear out civilians. Never mind tanks and government land seizures, and again a UN working on crafting some strongly worded letters, and a US Administration that seemed none too concerned. So, while there was posturing and quibbling and grand statements made, the Russians rolled tanks out against the Georgian tanks to put an end to that sh*t.

And you know what? They were right. They did so to protect folks who had dual citizenship, and to protect their borders, and stop ethnic cleansing before it got a good swing. And what did McCain do? He sided with the folks who rolling tanks onto their civilians.

If things go slideways with Syria and Iran, we will NEED the Russians' support. It's their backyard and sphere of influence. They have the most to lose with instability as well as military action crossing borders so close to their own. They historically have some reason to be leery of Europeans and others massing near their borders. They have a history to back up their nervousness.

Russia is not a perfect society, and they've got their nuts, they've got their own corruption, and they have their own issues, but they are still a fairly new nation state, that inherited a LOT from the Cold War era, and if we are to ever get away from that, we are going to have to make inroads with them. We made friends with Germany and Japan. We invested heavily in those relationships, and both nations are now some of our staunchest allies and trading partners. It's time to move past the myth, and build something new, and Romney's trading on that myth does us, nor them, and service...
 
2012-09-12 04:47:05 PM  
"I'm grateful to him (Romney) for formulating his stance so clearly because he has once again proven the correctness of our approach to missile defense problems," Putin told reporters, according to the Russian news agency RIA Novosti.

"The most important thing for us is that even if he doesn't win now, he or a person with similar views may come to power in four years. We must take that into consideration while dealing with security issues for a long perspective,"


The silver lining to Romney screwing any possibility for compromise is now we won't be wasting money deploying the missile defense pork project.
 
2012-09-12 05:04:20 PM  
I would be surprised if the State Department doesn't have a team wholly dedicated to cleaning up after Romney's statements.
 
2012-09-12 05:05:03 PM  

hubiestubert: Mitt's attempts to look Presidential and a policy wonk would be amusing, if he wasn't actually interviewing for the top executive position in our government.

At this point, you have to wonder if he's said, "Screw it, I'm just going to tank this thing, so I can get back to running jobs overseas the old fashioned way..."


I'm really starting to suspect that yes, he is trying to tank the election. That said, he needs to be careful, even as a presidential candidate his words can have international repercussions as with this and the recent Muslim embassy issues.
 
2012-09-12 05:05:15 PM  
"Thanks for being a right douchebag, it's making it easier for my negotiations with your military and diplomatic officers."
~Putin

Fark you Mittens, Fark you. You have zero understanding of diplomacy, and running for the head of our military, for the seat of chief diplomat.... you are worse than a non-entity. You're actually causing harm to the situation.
 
2012-09-12 05:05:15 PM  
growthnation.com
someone is having a really shiatty day today.
russia. enemy. bad.
 
2012-09-12 05:05:27 PM  
so there you have it.
Dip Shiat Mitt, he's not even in office & already putting the future of America at risk with his ignorant rants.
 
2012-09-12 05:05:29 PM  

hubiestubert: Diogenes: vpb: Romney's supporters want it that way anyway, so no big deal.

Bingo.

Not only are they stuck in "red threat" mentality, a new arms race with Russia will do wonders for defense contractors.

This is about the point where McCain lost my support last go around. The Ossetian Crisis had been building for some time. In fairness, the Ossetians were the ones who invited the assistance of the Bolsheviks back in the day, because the Georgians were starting up a push to remove them from their homes, just take their land, and fill ditches with their corpses. The USSR kept that in check, and when the USSR broke up, and Georgia was granted autonomy, the Russians kept a piece of Ossetia, and granted a good number of them dual citizenship--thinking that if there were a bunch of Russian citizens running around, the Georgians might think twice about trying to clean the area out again. Especially with so many Ossetians still working across the border, and with families there as well.

Didn't work out so well, and when the Georgians eventually got to the gumption to renew the old arguments and make moves on the turf again, they were apparently heartened by the resistance, thinking that they could turn it into a beef that they could then roll on. Crazy terrorists and all. Up until they started rolling tanks onto civilians. The UN was still dithering, and McCain was making mutterings about the Evil Empire. Never mind ethnic cleansing. Never mind using the military to clear out civilians. Never mind tanks and government land seizures, and again a UN working on crafting some strongly worded letters, and a US Administration that seemed none too concerned. So, while there was posturing and quibbling and grand statements made, the Russians rolled tanks out against the Georgian tanks to put an end to that sh*t.

And you know what? They were right. They did so to protect folks who had dual citizenship, and to protect their borders, and stop ethnic cleansing before it got a good ...


Have I told you lately I want to marry you?
 
2012-09-12 05:06:24 PM  
This kinda sums up today.

i14.photobucket.com

It's almost time to go drink some beer. A lot of beer.
 
2012-09-12 05:08:07 PM  
Mitt Romney would destroy the US's standing in the world. His mindless belligerence is more likely to bring about the destruction of the US than it is to save it.
 
2012-09-12 05:08:19 PM  

Maud Dib: It's almost time to go drink some beer. A lot of beer.


now that, i look forward to.
3 more hours!
 
2012-09-12 05:08:35 PM  

Isitoveryet: Dip Shiat Mitt, he's not even in office & already putting the future of America at risk with his ignorant rants.


Considering how badly he farked up with England, one of the USA's closest allies, is anybody surprised?
 
2012-09-12 05:09:00 PM  
hubiestubert: Great post.

That Sakashvilli dude always struck me as being a little snake.

"Omigod come help us Western countries! Russia shot back!"
 
2012-09-12 05:09:07 PM  
2.bp.blogspot.com

Fear the powerful Soviet Navy.
 
2012-09-12 05:10:16 PM  
"The most important thing for us is that even if he doesn't win now, he or a person with similar views may come to power in four years. We must take that into consideration while dealing with security issues for a long perspective," he said, speaking after a meeting with Serbian President Tomislav Nikolic, according to Interfax news agency.

Holy farking shiat. This would be hilarious if it didn't come with huge national security implications.
 
2012-09-12 05:11:00 PM  
Yes, absolutely.
Mustn't taunt the mentally ill.
 
2012-09-12 05:11:24 PM  
 
2012-09-12 05:11:34 PM  

lennavan: "The most important thing for us is that even if he doesn't win now, he or a person with similar views may come to power in four years. We must take that into consideration while dealing with security issues for a long perspective," he said, speaking after a meeting with Serbian President Tomislav Nikolic, according to Interfax news agency.

Holy farking shiat. This would be hilarious if it didn't come with huge national security implications.


It's classic Russian pragmatism.

That someone as farking stupid as Romney could possibly be considered a serious candidate is absolutely a geopolitical threat to Russia.
 
2012-09-12 05:13:31 PM  

HotIgneous Intruder: Yes, absolutely.
Mustn't taunt the mentally ill.


Mustn't poke the mentally ill bear.

FTFM.
 
2012-09-12 05:13:33 PM  

Fluorescent Testicle: Isitoveryet: Dip Shiat Mitt, he's not even in office & already putting the future of America at risk with his ignorant rants.

Considering how badly he farked up with England, one of the USA's closest allies, is anybody surprised?


Yeah, but at least he'll never piss off the Cayman Islands or Switzerland.
 
2012-09-12 05:15:22 PM  

MSFT: Fluorescent Testicle: Isitoveryet: Dip Shiat Mitt, he's not even in office & already putting the future of America at risk with his ignorant rants.

Considering how badly he farked up with England, one of the USA's closest allies, is anybody surprised?

Yeah, but at least he'll never piss off the Cayman Islands or Switzerland.


just give him a chance.
 
2012-09-12 05:15:31 PM  
mitt on diplomacy
"nuke the whales?"
2.bp.blogspot.com
gotta nuke somethin.
3.bp.blogspot.com
 
2012-09-12 05:16:00 PM  

hubiestubert: Didn't work out so well, and when the Georgians eventually got to the gumption to renew the old arguments and make moves on the turf again, they were apparently heartened by the resistance, thinking that they could turn it into a beef that they could then roll on. Crazy terrorists and all. Up until they started rolling tanks onto civilians. The UN was still dithering, and McCain was making mutterings about the Evil Empire. Never mind ethnic cleansing. Never mind using the military to clear out civilians. Never mind tanks and government land seizures, and again a UN working on crafting some strongly worded letters, and a US Administration that seemed none too concerned. So, while there was posturing and quibbling and grand statements made, the Russians rolled tanks out against the Georgian tanks to put an end to that sh*t.

And you know what? They were right. They did so to protect folks who had dual citizenship, and to protect their borders, and stop ethnic cleansing before it got a good swing. And what did McCain do? He sided with the folks who rolling tanks onto their civilians.


I still don't understand one thing, though; why was Georgia so incompetent during this? I mean, they fired directly on Russian forces with multiple tank divisions just sitting there waiting for something to happen. Is their intelligence so bad they didn't know about what, four Russian armored divisions parked in soccer fields? Hell, freaking BBC knew the armored divisions were there. Did the Bush administration, who were buddies with Georgia, not bother to tell them either? Did they just think the Rooskies would back down? Or did they believe Cheney's claims the US government would go to war against Russia to protect them?

I mean, the hell.
 
2012-09-12 05:16:17 PM  

Gyrfalcon: hubiestubert: Diogenes: vpb: Romney's supporters want it that way anyway, so no big deal.

Bingo.

Not only are they stuck in "red threat" mentality, a new arms race with Russia will do wonders for defense contractors.

This is about the point where McCain lost my support last go around. The Ossetian Crisis had been building for some time. In fairness, the Ossetians were the ones who invited the assistance of the Bolsheviks back in the day, because the Georgians were starting up a push to remove them from their homes, just take their land, and fill ditches with their corpses. The USSR kept that in check, and when the USSR broke up, and Georgia was granted autonomy, the Russians kept a piece of Ossetia, and granted a good number of them dual citizenship--thinking that if there were a bunch of Russian citizens running around, the Georgians might think twice about trying to clean the area out again. Especially with so many Ossetians still working across the border, and with families there as well.

Didn't work out so well, and when the Georgians eventually got to the gumption to renew the old arguments and make moves on the turf again, they were apparently heartened by the resistance, thinking that they could turn it into a beef that they could then roll on. Crazy terrorists and all. Up until they started rolling tanks onto civilians. The UN was still dithering, and McCain was making mutterings about the Evil Empire. Never mind ethnic cleansing. Never mind using the military to clear out civilians. Never mind tanks and government land seizures, and again a UN working on crafting some strongly worded letters, and a US Administration that seemed none too concerned. So, while there was posturing and quibbling and grand statements made, the Russians rolled tanks out against the Georgian tanks to put an end to that sh*t.

And you know what? They were right. They did so to protect folks who had dual citizenship, and to protect their borders, and stop ethnic cleansing before ...


Seriously, hubie - I'm thinking we should run you.

And McCain is still holding on. Just look at the speech he delivered at the RNC. Both he and Romney and the people who agree with them never, ever look at the intricacies of these relationships. It's foreign policy and diplomacy dictated by stereotypes. No regard for the history of those people, no regard for how the geopolitics fit together, no regard for long term consequences, and all the while eschewing the notion that we can't intervene and/or be at war with every country that does not behave to our liking.
 
2012-09-12 05:17:16 PM  

sprawl15: That someone as farking stupid as Romney could possibly be considered a serious candidate is absolutely a geopolitical threat to Russia

, the Middle East (specifically Iran, but I doubt he'd stop there) and possibly a few random nations that are currently friendly towards us.

/FTFY.
//If Romney ever spoke in front of the United Nations, we'd be in WWIII before the end of his speech.
 
2012-09-12 05:17:41 PM  

sprawl15: I would be surprised if the State Department doesn't have a team wholly dedicated to cleaning up after Romney's statements.


I don't know whether to vote that Smartest or Funniest.

Odd, that.
 
2012-09-12 05:17:45 PM  
Thank you, Mitt Romney, for bringing back the Cold War. We were so missing the specter of nuclear annihilation hanging over our heads.
 
2012-09-12 05:18:28 PM  

Diogenes: Seriously, hubie - I'm thinking we should run you.


Oh, and this. I'd vote for him.
 
2012-09-12 05:18:49 PM  
To quote Mr. Bale: "Oh good for you!"

I swear, this dude Romney farks up international relations before he's even in the position to do anything so I guess the next logical step in this vein would be to send the Delta Force/Seal teams to Grenada to shoot at people randomly or to drop a nuke on Beirut?
 
2012-09-12 05:19:29 PM  

Maud Dib: This kinda sums up today.

[i14.photobucket.com image 750x563]

It's almost time to go drink some beer. A lot of beer.


Today has been like watching a football game where the defending champs are up 56-7, and the fourth quarter hasn't even started yet. It's fun to watch your rival go down in flames, but when it's this bad, you almost feel sorry for its fans.

Almost...
 
2012-09-12 05:19:51 PM  
[condescending wonka.jpg]

Tell me more about Obama's horrible foreign policy credentials, Mitt.
 
2012-09-12 05:20:07 PM  

Fluorescent Testicle: sprawl15: That someone as farking stupid as Romney could possibly be considered a serious candidate is absolutely a geopolitical threat to Russia, the Middle East (specifically Iran, but I doubt he'd stop there) and possibly a few random nations that are currently friendly towards us.

/FTFY.
//If Romney ever spoke in front of the United Nations, we'd be in WWIII before the end of his speech.


"I know you brown people don't normally like America, but from what I've seen in National Geographic we give you a lot of jeans and polo shirts and I really think you should be more grateful."
 
2012-09-12 05:20:41 PM  

Fluorescent Testicle: //If Romney ever spoke in front of the United Nations, we'd be in WWIII before the end of his speech.


He 'did' manage to insult one of our longest-standing and closest allies when he was actively trying to burnish his foreign policy credentials. 

Imagine what he'd manage to do when speaking to those who are ambivalent to the US, if not actively resisting the ideas/designs that we have?
 
2012-09-12 05:20:53 PM  

HeartBurnKid: Thank you, Mitt Romney, for bringing back the Cold War. We were so missing the specter of nuclear annihilation hanging over our heads.


duck and cover
fallout shelters
i killed a commie for mommy t-shirts.

it's like im getting younger, not older.


/seriously America, please don't elect this "business man" he's got no business in office.
 
2012-09-12 05:21:03 PM  

Fluorescent Testicle: Diogenes: Seriously, hubie - I'm thinking we should run you.

Oh, and this. I'd vote for him.


Hubie is everything the republican party used to be.

He'd have to run as a Democrat.
 
2012-09-12 05:21:25 PM  
Republicans: So crazy that the mere prospect of them getting elected someday might very well start Cold War II.

Thanks a lot you wingnut farks.
 
2012-09-12 05:22:09 PM  
More evidence that Mitt is a total dipshiat? Very surprising indeed.
 
2012-09-12 05:23:31 PM  

Isitoveryet:
/seriously America, please don't elect this "business man" he's Republicans, they've got no business in office.


FTFY. The modern Republican party is a diseased, rotting husk of what it once was, It needs to collapse so a party NOT infested with lunatics and assholes can take its place.
 
2012-09-12 05:28:35 PM  
Romney should be declared a superfund site.
 
2012-09-12 05:28:38 PM  
i1087.photobucket.com
Mitt Romney is turning out to be Frank Burns.
 
2012-09-12 05:29:03 PM  
This ought to make the teahead party heads asplode, "Commies endorse Romney"
 
2012-09-12 05:31:04 PM  

missiv: Mitt Romney is turning out to be Frank Burns.


The love child of Frank Burns and Monty Burns.
 
2012-09-12 05:34:15 PM  
I know I'm dating myself, but I haven't seen a campaign run this badly since Mondale/Ferraro. Weak candidates, no sense of direction, rhetoric tripping over itself every other day, and more gaffes than the Biden family reunion.

This is what happens when your party is so split between traditional "small-c" conservatives and reactionary teabaggers that you can't even create a cohesive national agenda or a consistent message. It's no wonder RMoney is all over the scale on the issues. He's like a teenager trying to please both parents while they hammer out who gets custody in the divorce.

On one hand, I'm very pleased that there's really no practical model that shows a chance of him winning, but on the other hand I think it would be nice to have a viable candidate who can at least elevate the dialogue on major policy issues and broaden the idea pool. He'd never admit it, but I suspect Obama feels the same way. He strikes me as someone who'd rather have his ideas intelligently challenged so they can be reinforced or refined as needed, instead of having no true political counterpart worth even listening to.
 
2012-09-12 05:36:02 PM  
They've managed to find someone more clueless an inept than Condi to speak about foreign policy.
 
2012-09-12 05:37:40 PM  

Fluorescent Testicle: missiv: Mitt Romney is turning out to be Frank Burns.

The love child of Frank Burns and Monty Burns.



Yes, obviously a genuine "love" child, since if it was legitemate rape....
 
2012-09-12 05:38:36 PM  
Jesus Christ Romney is so farking embarrassing to me just as an American. I can't imagine how the republicans feel.
 
2012-09-12 05:39:37 PM  

HotWingConspiracy: They've managed to find someone more clueless an inept than Condi to speak about foreign policy.


To be fair, Condi started to sound a helluva lot smarter once she no longer had to publicly back her boss's positions and was able to give her own opinions as a private citizen.
 
2012-09-12 05:40:07 PM  

Satanic_Hamster: hubiestubert: Didn't work out so well, and when the Georgians eventually got to the gumption to renew the old arguments and make moves on the turf again, they were apparently heartened by the resistance, thinking that they could turn it into a beef that they could then roll on. Crazy terrorists and all. Up until they started rolling tanks onto civilians. The UN was still dithering, and McCain was making mutterings about the Evil Empire. Never mind ethnic cleansing. Never mind using the military to clear out civilians. Never mind tanks and government land seizures, and again a UN working on crafting some strongly worded letters, and a US Administration that seemed none too concerned. So, while there was posturing and quibbling and grand statements made, the Russians rolled tanks out against the Georgian tanks to put an end to that sh*t.

And you know what? They were right. They did so to protect folks who had dual citizenship, and to protect their borders, and stop ethnic cleansing before it got a good swing. And what did McCain do? He sided with the folks who rolling tanks onto their civilians.

I still don't understand one thing, though; why was Georgia so incompetent during this? I mean, they fired directly on Russian forces with multiple tank divisions just sitting there waiting for something to happen. Is their intelligence so bad they didn't know about what, four Russian armored divisions parked in soccer fields? Hell, freaking BBC knew the armored divisions were there. Did the Bush administration, who were buddies with Georgia, not bother to tell them either? Did they just think the Rooskies would back down? Or did they believe Cheney's claims the US government would go to war against Russia to protect them?

I mean, the hell.


I think he really did believe that NATO would be on the way. Seen that picture of him on the phone chewing on his tie? I imagine that is him juuust starting to get nervous as he waits for the American diplomat he called to stop laughing.
 
2012-09-12 05:41:18 PM  
Mittney Spears - "Oops, I Did it Again"
 
2012-09-12 05:41:28 PM  

ManateeGag: Voiceofreason01: Romney, "What do you mean it's over?"

Nothing is over until WE decide it is! Was it over when the Germans bombed Pearl Harbor?


Germans?
 
2012-09-12 05:41:54 PM  

Lost Thought 00: Mitt Romney would destroy the US's standing in the world. His mindless belligerence is more likely to bring about the destruction of the US than it is to save it.


Rapture time!
 
2012-09-12 05:44:24 PM  
Today isn't even over. Let's watch.
 
2012-09-12 05:46:29 PM  
Obama should make a statement on how he's so sorry about hurting Putin's feelings.
 
2012-09-12 05:47:01 PM  
OUCH! That's gonna leave a mark.
 
2012-09-12 05:47:15 PM  

Satanic_Hamster: I still don't understand one thing, though; why was Georgia so incompetent during this? I mean, they fired directly on Russian forces with multiple tank divisions just sitting there waiting for something to happen. Is their intelligence so bad they didn't know about what, four Russian armored divisions parked in soccer fields? Hell, freaking BBC knew the armored divisions were there. Did the Bush administration, who were buddies with Georgia, not bother to tell them either? Did they just think the Rooskies would back down? Or did they believe Cheney's claims the US government would go to war against Russia to protect them?


IIRC, at the time Georgia was flirting with NATO membership, and after it all died down the president of Georgia confessed either (can't remember which) that he thought NATO would go to bat for him, or that Russia would stay out for fear of US reprisals.

And that's when he learned that no matter what the US says, no matter how nice we are, there's maybe like 5 scenarios that will get America to throw down with Russia, and Georgia getting its ass beat ain't one of them.

We're all like, "Georgia? Never heard of it. You mean Georgia like Atlanta, Georgia? Cause I'm looking at the Georgia Dome right now and there's no tanks here. Prank caller, prank caller!"
 
2012-09-12 05:47:44 PM  

Mugato: Jesus Christ Romney is so farking embarrassing to me just as an American. I can't imagine how the republicans feel.


I imagine they are beginning to come to grips with the fact that far-right conservatism is inexorably sliding towards the wrong side of history. It must be vary confusing, disillusioning and anger-inducing. I think it also explains the marked uptick in the vitriol and blatant falsehoods coming from right wing pundits these days. It's almost like a defense mechanism that the more danger your ideology is in, the louder you get.
 
2012-09-12 05:48:27 PM  

foo monkey: Germans?


Animal House reference
 
2012-09-12 05:49:51 PM  
Apparently Russia can see how dumb some Americans are from their house.
 
2012-09-12 05:51:06 PM  

xria: foo monkey: Germans?

Animal House reference


The proper response was "forget it, he's rolling"
 
2012-09-12 05:51:49 PM  

Highroller48: I know I'm dating myself, but I haven't seen a campaign run this badly since Mondale/Ferraro. Weak candidates, no sense of direction, rhetoric tripping over itself every other day, and more gaffes than the Biden family reunion.

This is what happens when your party is so split between traditional "small-c" conservatives and reactionary teabaggers that you can't even create a cohesive national agenda or a consistent message. It's no wonder RMoney is all over the scale on the issues. He's like a teenager trying to please both parents while they hammer out who gets custody in the divorce.

On one hand, I'm very pleased that there's really no practical model that shows a chance of him winning, but on the other hand I think it would be nice to have a viable candidate who can at least elevate the dialogue on major policy issues and broaden the idea pool. He'd never admit it, but I suspect Obama feels the same way. He strikes me as someone who'd rather have his ideas intelligently challenged so they can be reinforced or refined as needed, instead of having no true political counterpart worth even listening to.


Was the Mondale campaign really that bad or was the Reagan campaign that good? I'm barely old enough to remember 1984, but it seems like running against Reagan that year was like running against Usain Bolt. You're going to get spanked regardless of how well you do.
 
2012-09-12 05:52:58 PM  

Mugato: Jesus Christ Romney is so farking embarrassing to me just as an American. I can't imagine how the republicans feel.


As a party, they don't really care, as long as he wins. There are just enough mindless vote-Republican-no-matter-what folks out there to put him in office, too.

He's just a candidate right now. Imagine what it's going to be like if/when he becomes president.
 
2012-09-12 05:54:49 PM  

Maud Dib: This kinda sums up today.

[i14.photobucket.com image 750x563]

It's almost time to go drink some beer. A lot of beer.


I always get a chuckle when that one comes up, not just because it's one of mine, but often because it's hotlinked right outta mah Bukket...

Gyrfalcon: Have I told you lately I want to marry you?


Hey, you gotta buy me a drink first. I'm easy, not cheap.
 
2012-09-12 05:55:48 PM  

Fark Me To Tears: Mugato: Jesus Christ Romney is so farking embarrassing to me just as an American. I can't imagine how the republicans feel.

As a party, they don't really care, as long as he wins. There are just enough mindless vote-Republican-no-matter-what folks out there to put him in office, too.

He's just a candidate right now. Imagine what it's going to be like if/when he becomes president.


for the record, i have 2 right leaning voters who have come out in support of President Obama this election cycle.
both female & religious, i mean as religious as Catholics are willing to be.
 
2012-09-12 05:58:39 PM  

Gyrfalcon: Fluorescent Testicle: Diogenes: Seriously, hubie - I'm thinking we should run you.

Oh, and this. I'd vote for him.

Hubie is everything the republican party used to be.

He'd have to run as a Democrat.


Modern Whig mebbee. I like the platform, but their traction and momentum get ett up, but they seem like good folks, over all. Some Libertarians in the wings, and a few fringe types, but overall, sane, whereas the TEA Party invited as many nuts and kooks as possible...
 
2012-09-12 05:59:21 PM  

Isitoveryet: for the record, i have 2 right leaning voters who have come out in support of President Obama this election cycle.
both female & religious, i mean as religious as Catholics are willing to be.


So you mean not all that religious...
 
2012-09-12 06:03:29 PM  
More crap from TPM...

webpages.charter.net
 
2012-09-12 06:04:28 PM  

jst3p: Isitoveryet: for the record, i have 2 right leaning voters who have come out in support of President Obama this election cycle.
both female & religious, i mean as religious as Catholics are willing to be.

So you mean not all that religious...


hah!
they know the songs and the ceremonies and actually go in to a church from time to time.
 
2012-09-12 06:04:39 PM  
"The most important thing for us is that even if he doesn't win now, he or a person with similar views may come to power in four years. We must take that into consideration while dealing with security issues for a long perspective,"

This is far too easy to spin. If I were a Republican publicist here's how I would do it.

"Putin thinks Obama will win this election. He believes Obama is the right choice for America. Do you want America's enemy Vladimir Putin as the best friend of your President? Not for our sakes. Not for our children's sake. Stop the Russian take over of American politics. Vote Mitt Romney this November".

Or if you want to go another route:
"While Alaska was keeping watch to keep Putin from rearing his head at our back door, but Obama was busy letting him in the front door. Vote Mitt Romney. Stop the red menace."

It's far Far FAR too easy to spin this quote.
 
2012-09-12 06:08:56 PM  

shotglasss: More crap from TPM...

[webpages.charter.net image 500x500]


RIA Link
ABC Link
CSM Link

Are those better for you?
 
2012-09-12 06:16:05 PM  

lennavan: "The most important thing for us is that even if he doesn't win now, he or a person with similar views may come to power in four years. We must take that into consideration while dealing with security issues for a long perspective," he said, speaking after a meeting with Serbian President Tomislav Nikolic, according to Interfax news agency.

Holy farking shiat. This would be hilarious if it didn't come with huge national security implications.


I imagine someone in Iran was thinking along those same lines when we invaded Iraq for no reason, I know I would have been.
 
2012-09-12 06:28:35 PM  

hubiestubert: Maud Dib: This kinda sums up today.

[i14.photobucket.com image 750x563]

It's almost time to go drink some beer. A lot of beer.

I always get a chuckle when that one comes up, not just because it's one of mine, but often because it's hotlinked right outta mah Bukket...

Gyrfalcon: Have I told you lately I want to marry you?

Hey, you gotta buy me a drink first. I'm easy, not cheap.


Whatever it takes to get you into my bed, you conservative darling. But I like the lights on so I can see the mirror.
 
2012-09-12 06:29:52 PM  
I'm warning you all ahead of time, but I'm about to ask a really, really stupid question.

HOW THE FARK IS THIS MAN GOING TO GET 48% OF THE VOTE IN NOVEMBER?! HOW?!

Sorry, back to your regularly scheduled thread.
 
2012-09-12 06:32:10 PM  

Gyrfalcon: hubiestubert: Maud Dib: This kinda sums up today.

[i14.photobucket.com image 750x563]

It's almost time to go drink some beer. A lot of beer.

I always get a chuckle when that one comes up, not just because it's one of mine, but often because it's hotlinked right outta mah Bukket...

Gyrfalcon: Have I told you lately I want to marry you?

Hey, you gotta buy me a drink first. I'm easy, not cheap.

Whatever it takes to get you into my bed, you conservative darling. But I like the lights on so I can see the mirror.


Aww shucks...

/eip
 
2012-09-12 06:32:23 PM  

Coco LaFemme: I'm warning you all ahead of time, but I'm about to ask a really, really stupid question.

HOW THE FARK IS THIS MAN GOING TO GET 48% OF THE VOTE IN NOVEMBER?! HOW?!

Sorry, back to your regularly scheduled thread.


Because he's not a Democrat. That's all the reason a good portion of the population needs. Of course there's also the "both Republicans and Democrats are bad, so vote Ron Paul" section of the population which should steal some votes from both candidates since they are equally as evil.
 
2012-09-12 06:33:10 PM  
A Romney administration will get us another war. With whom, and whether it'll be on purpose or on accident, are the only questions.
 
2012-09-12 06:33:37 PM  

degenerate-afro: Coco LaFemme: I'm warning you all ahead of time, but I'm about to ask a really, really stupid question.

HOW THE FARK IS THIS MAN GOING TO GET 48% OF THE VOTE IN NOVEMBER?! HOW?!

Sorry, back to your regularly scheduled thread.

Because he's not a Democrat. That's all the reason a good portion of the population needs. Of course there's also the "both Republicans and Democrats are bad, so vote Ron Paul" section of the population which should steal some votes from both candidates since they are equally as evil.


There's also a not-insignificant number of people who just don't like that the President is near.
 
2012-09-12 06:37:36 PM  
Sorry, I should have put in a slashie that my question was essentially a joke. I know why he's going to get 48% of the vote in November. I'm just dumbfounded by how retarded nearly half our electorate is. I say electorate rather than country because not everyone who can vote, does. Those people are even more retarded than the people who are voting for Mitt Romney.
 
2012-09-12 06:42:11 PM  

Coco LaFemme: HOW THE FARK IS THIS MAN GOING TO GET 48% OF THE VOTE IN NOVEMBER?! HOW?!


upload.wikimedia.org
 
2012-09-12 06:45:08 PM  

shower_in_my_socks: A Romney administration will get us another war. With whom, and whether it'll be on purpose or on accident, are the only questions.


Well Iran is a given. That's practically in writing. He's already said that Israel will control our foreign policy in the region. So them and Syria is also a good bet. Egypt, maybe. The bottom line is that no matter what you think about bullshiat social issues like gay marriage letting the colourds share our drinking fountains, the bottom line is that a Romney Presidency means a shiatload more dead troops for other people's economic interests. So think about that, all of you with your magnetic ribbons on your cars, talking bullshiat about praying for our troops.
 
2012-09-12 06:48:31 PM  

Lando Lincoln: [www.getyourfilmfix.com image 350x261]
FORGET IT, ROMNEY - YOU'RE OUT OF YOUR ELEMENT


SHUT THE FARK UP, ROMNEY!

/Sadly, I don't know if this meme has legs...
 
2012-09-12 07:01:28 PM  
Even Putin is trolling this DBag. Excellent.
 
2012-09-12 07:04:46 PM  

Gyrfalcon: hubiestubert: Diogenes: vpb: Romney's supporters want it that way anyway, so no big deal.

Bingo.

Not only are they stuck in "red threat" mentality, a new arms race with Russia will do wonders for defense contractors.

This is about the point where McCain lost my support last go around. The Ossetian Crisis had been building for some time. In fairness, the Ossetians were the ones who invited the assistance of the Bolsheviks back in the day, because the Georgians were starting up a push to remove them from their homes, just take their land, and fill ditches with their corpses. The USSR kept that in check, and when the USSR broke up, and Georgia was granted autonomy, the Russians kept a piece of Ossetia, and granted a good number of them dual citizenship--thinking that if there were a bunch of Russian citizens running around, the Georgians might think twice about trying to clean the area out again. Especially with so many Ossetians still working across the border, and with families there as well.

Didn't work out so well, and when the Georgians eventually got to the gumption to renew the old arguments and make moves on the turf again, they were apparently heartened by the resistance, thinking that they could turn it into a beef that they could then roll on. Crazy terrorists and all. Up until they started rolling tanks onto civilians. The UN was still dithering, and McCain was making mutterings about the Evil Empire. Never mind ethnic cleansing. Never mind using the military to clear out civilians. Never mind tanks and government land seizures, and again a UN working on crafting some strongly worded letters, and a US Administration that seemed none too concerned. So, while there was posturing and quibbling and grand statements made, the Russians rolled tanks out against the Georgian tanks to put an end to that sh*t.

And you know what? They were right. They did so to protect folks who had dual citizenship, and to protect their borders, and stop ethnic cleansing before ...


I farking love you man. seriously, someone said that we should run you for President. Since I have no power to do that, I'm going to give you some totalfark.
 
2012-09-12 07:04:59 PM  

degenerate-afro: "The most important thing for us is that even if he doesn't win now, he or a person with similar views may come to power in four years. We must take that into consideration while dealing with security issues for a long perspective,"

This is far too easy to spin. If I were a Republican publicist here's how I would do it.

"Putin thinks Obama will win this election. He believes Obama is the right choice for America. Do you want America's enemy Vladimir Putin as the best friend of your President? Not for our sakes. Not for our children's sake. Stop the Russian take over of American politics. Vote Mitt Romney this November".

Or if you want to go another route:
"While Alaska was keeping watch to keep Putin from rearing his head at our back door, but Obama was busy letting him in the front door. Vote Mitt Romney. Stop the red menace."

It's far Far FAR too easy to spin this quote.


I am not sure Putin would care at all whether is was spun or not, it is for home consumption - keeping up support for taxes/military spending (and maybe a bit will accidentally fall into a numbered account he happens to know the details of by coincidence).via the US bogeyman.

Obviously it is actually just as natural to interpret that he is saying that Romney is more likely to win instead of the selected reading of his quote, although ignoring facts and mangling quotes is par for the course by now. To be honest, the way the GOP is campaigning they could just get Fox to claim Putin personally endorsed Obama even if he had never talked about Obama or Romney in his entire life, so it doesn't seem particularly relevant that a quote can be spun when reality is no part of their strategy.
 
2012-09-12 07:10:46 PM  

AlteredChemical: Gyrfalcon: hubiestubert: Diogenes: vpb: Romney's supporters want it that way anyway, so no big deal.

Bingo.

Not only are they stuck in "red threat" mentality, a new arms race with Russia will do wonders for defense contractors.

This is about the point where McCain lost my support last go around. The Ossetian Crisis had been building for some time. In fairness, the Ossetians were the ones who invited the assistance of the Bolsheviks back in the day, because the Georgians were starting up a push to remove them from their homes, just take their land, and fill ditches with their corpses. The USSR kept that in check, and when the USSR broke up, and Georgia was granted autonomy, the Russians kept a piece of Ossetia, and granted a good number of them dual citizenship--thinking that if there were a bunch of Russian citizens running around, the Georgians might think twice about trying to clean the area out again. Especially with so many Ossetians still working across the border, and with families there as well.

Didn't work out so well, and when the Georgians eventually got to the gumption to renew the old arguments and make moves on the turf again, they were apparently heartened by the resistance, thinking that they could turn it into a beef that they could then roll on. Crazy terrorists and all. Up until they started rolling tanks onto civilians. The UN was still dithering, and McCain was making mutterings about the Evil Empire. Never mind ethnic cleansing. Never mind using the military to clear out civilians. Never mind tanks and government land seizures, and again a UN working on crafting some strongly worded letters, and a US Administration that seemed none too concerned. So, while there was posturing and quibbling and grand statements made, the Russians rolled tanks out against the Georgian tanks to put an end to that sh*t.

And you know what? They were right. They did so to protect folks who had dual citizenship, and to protect their borders, and stop ethnic cleans ...


Ok, nevermind. Sorry, I'm still kinda new with this totalfark thing and didn't know better. You still have my kudos though.
 
2012-09-12 07:17:54 PM  
ThatsEnoughMittRomney.jpg
 
2012-09-12 07:20:55 PM  

Waxing_Chewbacca: Even Putin is trolling this DBag. Excellent.


Political Mitt Romney is providing world wide laughter. I think he's going for Sarah Palin's role in politics as the Dunce. It's a good thing he's rich already. He can buy a new face.
 
2012-09-12 07:21:52 PM  

missiv: Waxing_Chewbacca: Even Putin is trolling this DBag. Excellent.

Political Mitt Romney is providing world wide laughter. I think he's going for Sarah Palin's role in politics as the Dunce. It's a good thing he's rich already. He can buy a new face.


Why would he need to buy a new one when we've seen so many of them already?
 
2012-09-12 07:32:19 PM  

Mugato: shower_in_my_socks: A Romney administration will get us another war. With whom, and whether it'll be on purpose or on accident, are the only questions.

Well Iran is a given. That's practically in writing. He's already said that Israel will control our foreign policy in the region. So them and Syria is also a good bet. Egypt, maybe. The bottom line is that no matter what you think about bullshiat social issues like gay marriage letting the colourds share our drinking fountains, the bottom line is that a Romney Presidency means a shiatload more dead troops for other people's economic interests. So think about that, all of you with your magnetic ribbons on your cars, talking bullshiat about praying for our troops.


With a President like that, our troops are going to need all the prayers they can get.

[ponders]

Or legal support for the Mutiny, I guess.
 
2012-09-12 08:01:13 PM  
They could use it to make an ad like this: http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=ozVilRDTs1w&feature=youtu.be

/Obligatory - had to throw it together...
 
2012-09-12 08:40:02 PM  
I'd like to see Mitt and his friends hold down Putin and cut his hair.
 
2012-09-12 09:10:49 PM  

wademh: I'd like to see Mitt and his friends hold down Putin and cut his hair.


A crisis has occurred. Russia and a NATO nation are in a dispute that theatens to turn dangerous. The POTUS goes to Geneva to meet with Putin. He walks into the room. Putin turns around and says:
i18.photobucket.com
"Well, well, well - heeelllloooo.........Mittens"
 
2012-09-12 09:50:48 PM  

Mugato: shower_in_my_socks: A Romney administration will get us another war. With whom, and whether it'll be on purpose or on accident, are the only questions.

Well Iran is a given. That's practically in writing. He's already said that Israel will control our foreign policy in the region. So them and Syria is also a good bet. Egypt, maybe. The bottom line is that no matter what you think about bullshiat social issues like gay marriage letting the colourds share our drinking fountains, the bottom line is that a Romney Presidency means a shiatload more dead troops for other people's economic interests. So think about that, all of you with your magnetic ribbons on your cars, talking bullshiat about praying for our troops.


This. There are just so many good reasons to try to keep these people from getting in power.
 
2012-09-12 10:01:51 PM  

Voiceofreason01: Romney, "What do you mean it's over?"


2.bp.blogspot.com

NOTHING IS OVER!!!!
 
2012-09-12 10:14:22 PM  

Lost Thought 00: Mitt Romney would destroy the US's standing in the world. His mindless belligerence is more likely to bring about the destruction of the US than it is to save it.


It's a bit late for that I'm afraid. Bush beat him to it by several years.
 
2012-09-12 10:30:53 PM  

Coco LaFemme: HOW THE FARK IS THIS MAN GOING TO GET 48% OF THE VOTE IN NOVEMBER?! HOW?!


Ahhh... You underestimate the power of retired,old, bigoted, dyed-in-the-wool Republican voters. As the population shifts older, there are LOTS of them and they ALL watch Fox News!!! When they go to the polls, the truth won't matter. The candidates won't matter. They're going to show all of us by voting Republican.

It's all going according to plan... BWA-HAHAHAHAHAHAHAHAHAHAHAHAHA!!!!
 
2012-09-12 11:03:53 PM  

kg2095: Lost Thought 00: Mitt Romney would destroy the US's standing in the world. His mindless belligerence is more likely to bring about the destruction of the US than it is to save it.

It's a bit late for that I'm afraid. Bush beat him to it by several years.


Even Bush knew to keep the fark out of Iran.
 
2012-09-12 11:47:24 PM  

PC LOAD LETTER: Even Bush knew to keep the fark out of Iran.


Also Bush saw inside Putin's soul when he looked him in his gleaming, Russian eyes.
 
2012-09-13 01:30:37 AM  

Lost Thought 00: Mitt Romney Obummer would has destroyed the US's standing in the world. His mindless belligerence is more likely to bring about the destruction of the US than it is to save it.

 
FTFY
 
2012-09-13 01:41:20 AM  

jojostan: Lost Thought 00: Mitt Romney Obummer would has destroyed the US's standing in the world. His mindless belligerence is more likely to bring about the destruction of the US than it is to save it. 
FTFY


Crayolas don't really work very well on the Internets.
 
2012-09-13 02:18:23 AM  

LordJiro: Republicans: So crazy that the mere prospect of them getting elected someday might very well start Cold War II.

Thanks a lot you wingnut farks.


You are one of the few people in this thread who noticed that Putin includes not just Romney, but the whole party, in his threat assessment.
 
2012-09-13 03:19:44 AM  
Vlad is making fun of him. He probably is too dense to realize this.
 
2012-09-13 06:40:51 AM  
It's Romney's foreign policy team.

It's comprised of the exact same PNAC Neocons who led Bush into Iraq.

They aren't interested in the safety of the United States; they are interested in re-shaping the Middle East for the benefit of Israel.

They're the ones filling Mitt's empty brain with this nonsense.

Putin has a habit of denying globalists, oligarchs and Zionists the things they want. This makes him "our" number one geopolitical foe.

A vote for the Neocon puppet Romney is a vote for war with Iran.

Look at him jumping-the-gun yesterday on the Egyptian embassy statement and attributing the violence to Obama's purported weakness.

If what happened yesterday had happened with Romney as President, the bombs would have been falling on Tehran before lunch.
 
2012-09-13 08:32:30 AM  
Does it bother anbody that this guy was the Republicans' best option? What would Republican nominee Rick Perry have said at this point? Or Cainemon? I'm sure Mullah Santorum would have declared a fatwa by now. And I've never seen a world leader break into hysterics, but a statement from Republican nominee Bachmann would have done just that.

So, remember that. As empty and foolish and slimy as Mitt Romney is, he's their best option.
 
2012-09-13 08:36:44 AM  

EyeballKid: What would Republican nominee Rick Perry have said at this point?


The exact same thing, as the exact same cabal were his advisers also. The same for Sarah Palin.
 
2012-09-13 08:38:52 AM  

jso2897: "Well, well, well - heeelllloooo.........Mittens"


I'm glad I saw that post this morning, because I wouldn't have been able to sleep last night.
 
2012-09-13 10:50:37 AM  
Man this plan of Roves, for a permanent Democratic majority, is going great!!!!
No one in their right mind would ever vote for these clowns

Hypnozombie
 
2012-09-13 12:20:57 PM  

emilyek_1: It's Romney's foreign policy team.

It's comprised of the exact same PNAC Neocons who led Bush into Iraq.

They aren't interested in the safety of the United States; they are interested in re-shaping the Middle East for the benefit of Israel.major oil investors.

They're the ones filling Mitt's empty brain with this nonsense.

Putin has a habit of denying globalists, oligarchs and Zionists the things they want. This makes him "our" number one geopolitical foe.

A vote for the Neocon puppet Romney is a vote for war with Iran.

Look at him jumping-the-gun yesterday on the Egyptian embassy statement and attributing the violence to Obama's purported weakness.

If what happened yesterday had happened with Romney as President, the bombs would have been falling on Tehran before lunch.


This makes sense, except for the weird psychotic antisemitism.
 
2012-09-13 03:47:46 PM  
Yet another example of why Romney is unfit to be America's next President. Putin's response to Romney's Cold War gaffe proves without a doubt that Romney is a traitor who gives comfort and political aid to our enemies...

///Wait a moment...

///HUGE facepalm

//snerk
 
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