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(Westword)   Toe-sucking Fox News analyst Dick Morris says women should only count as 7/10 of a vote -- because they talk on the phone a lot   (blogs.westword.com) divider line 67
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2012-09-12 12:19:24 PM
 
2012-09-12 12:35:44 PM
Someone might have already said this but I'm farking sick of this campaign and I don't even follow it that closely.
 
2012-09-12 12:37:38 PM
To be fair, that's actually 1/10 more than they gave the slaves
 
2012-09-12 12:40:34 PM
He could probably only fit about 7 our of 10 toes into that stroke-victim mouth of his anyway.
 
2012-09-12 12:51:20 PM
I know we're not supposed to RTFA here, but he actually was trying to argue that phone polls are wrong because more women pick up the phone than men and thus they're skewed towards the liberal voters (women).

Not that I agree with him on that either. And if we're going to get into how telephone polls are skewed, why not discuss the fact that they are skewed to people who still have landlines?
 
2012-09-12 12:55:04 PM
FTFA:

Morris, who was formerly a pollster, said one reason for inaccurate polling is that about 65 percent of those who answer surveys are women, while only 35 percent are men.

Why? "Women are much more likely to answer the telephone. 'Honey, it's for you. It's probably your sister.'"

So, he explained, the polls have to be weighted up and down -- with each woman downgraded to 7/10 of a response, because there are so many of them....


Wow. Did your mom have any kids that lived, Mr Morris?
 
2012-09-12 01:00:59 PM

mahuika: I know we're not supposed to RTFA here, but he actually was trying to argue that phone polls are wrong because more women pick up the phone than men and thus they're skewed towards the liberal voters (women).


Either Morris doesn't understand how polls work or he's hoping that his audience don't. Since he used to be a pollster, I have to assume that he thinks his audience members are stupid.

...I guess he has a point.
 
2012-09-12 01:09:26 PM
This little piggy went to the polls.
This little piggy stayed home.
 
2012-09-12 01:17:09 PM
If the GOP isn't the party for a former Democrat who re-imagined himself after a whore scandal got him run from Washington, there is no party for this guy.
 
2012-09-12 01:18:52 PM
lol. Men's or womens toes?

Because he sounds gayer than a leather shower cap.
 
2012-09-12 01:27:27 PM

Godscrack: lol. Men's or womens toes?

Because he sounds gayer than a leather shower cap.


He's not picky. Anyone who can find his tiny dick under all those rolls of fat will do.
 
2012-09-12 02:21:57 PM
If broads are talking too much, I blame their men for not keeping them in line.
 
2012-09-12 02:25:05 PM

mrshowrules: If broads are talking too much, I blame their men for not keeping them in line.


And they should be telling their women how to vote anyway.
 
2012-09-12 02:30:49 PM

mahuika: Not that I agree with him on that either. And if we're going to get into how telephone polls are skewed, why not discuss the fact that they are skewed to people who still have landlines?


Or as I lovingly refer to them: my parents, and everybody else who can't figure cell phones out.
 
2012-09-12 03:04:40 PM
So, he explained, the polls have to be weighted up and down -- with each woman downgraded to 7/10 of a response, because there are so many of them, and each man counting for one and 2/10, to make up for their statistical shortfall.

This is a perfectly cromulent harmonization of the statistical quirks.
 
2012-09-12 03:09:06 PM

mahuika: I know we're not supposed to RTFA here, but he actually was trying to argue that phone polls are wrong because more women pick up the phone than men and thus they're skewed towards the liberal voters (women).

Not that I agree with him on that either. And if we're going to get into how telephone polls are skewed, why not discuss the fact that they are skewed to people who still have landlines?


Almost all phone polls now include cellphone users
 
2012-09-12 03:11:19 PM
That's not even close to what he said, dumbassmitter. He said that for the purpose of analyzing phone poll data, the results must be weight-adjusted by demographic, and he's absolutely correct.
 
2012-09-12 03:11:36 PM
Lost Thought 00:
mahuika: I know we're not supposed to RTFA here, but he actually was trying to argue that phone polls are wrong because more women pick up the phone than men and thus they're skewed towards the liberal voters (women).

Not that I agree with him on that either. And if we're going to get into how telephone polls are skewed, why not discuss the fact that they are skewed to people who still have landlines?

Almost all phone polls now include cellphone users


How is that legal? I don't want to pay to receive some political survey call :P
 
2012-09-12 03:11:38 PM

mahuika: I know we're not supposed to RTFA here, but he actually was trying to argue that phone polls are wrong because more women pick up the phone than men and thus they're skewed towards the liberal voters (women).


But that's not at all how phone polls work. They normalize the data for demographics after collecting the data.
 
2012-09-12 03:11:41 PM
Yes we are going to vote.

We're voting for something, not against someone.

Plus, there is the bandwagon effect of people jumping on a winning cause. I hate the team politics reality we live in, but to make an analogy, who has more fans attend a game; a winning team or a losing team?

Obama voters will get out and vote, especially if it becomes more obvious he's going to win.

Romney voters are going to stay home, especially if it becomes more obvious he's going to lose.
 
2012-09-12 03:12:57 PM
Hey, cut Big Dick Morris some slack. It's not easy to be as wrong as he is on a consistent basis. Besides, he's got a new book to plug, "Dubs Runs For President." No seriously, he wrote a book about his dog running for President.

He's also written:
Dubs Takes a Steamer on Dick Morris' Loafers
Dick Morris Likes Pie
and the sequel,
Dick Morris Likes Loves Pie
 
2012-09-12 03:14:00 PM

No Such Agency: Lost Thought 00:
mahuika: I know we're not supposed to RTFA here, but he actually was trying to argue that phone polls are wrong because more women pick up the phone than men and thus they're skewed towards the liberal voters (women).

Not that I agree with him on that either. And if we're going to get into how telephone polls are skewed, why not discuss the fact that they are skewed to people who still have landlines?

Almost all phone polls now include cellphone users

How is that legal? I don't want to pay to receive some political survey call :P


If you complain, they'll mail you a crisp $1 bill in 6-8 weeks to cover the expense
 
2012-09-12 03:14:54 PM
static.dickmorris.com
Mitt Romney is going to beat Obama's ass in the presidential election.
Supposing, of course, that Obama doesn't actually bother to show up.
 
2012-09-12 03:17:12 PM
My takeaway from all this is that you can make A LOT of money telling people lies that they want to hear with a straight face.
 
2012-09-12 03:17:54 PM
Dick's Morrison.
 
2012-09-12 03:18:42 PM
That was some serious mental gymnastics, I'm surprised he didn't have an aneurysm.
 
2012-09-12 03:19:10 PM

phritz: My takeaway from all this is that you can make A LOT of money telling people lies that they want to hear with a straight face.


Yeah, but ask Jim Baker how that turns out in the long run.
 
2012-09-12 03:20:18 PM
FTFA: Continue reading for more photos and commentary from Morris on African-American and Latino voters.

Part of me wanted to see what he had to say about African-American and Latino voters, just out of morbid curiosity, but the first page pretty much overloaded my derp quotient for the day.
 
2012-09-12 03:21:06 PM
meat0918:
Yes we are going to vote.

We're voting for something, not against someone.


...except you're not the demographic.

You're the sort that goes online to argue about politics, believes intensely that your guy is the correct person to vote for, et cetera.

That is not - by any stretch - the typical voter. A lot of people don't follow politics like you do, and most of those are going to vote based on the economy - which is not good.

Obama voters will mostly get out and vote - but a whole lot of folks aren't Obama voters any more, and he is not going to get the "youth vote" like he did last time. Most of the independents who supported him are edging toward Romney, and a bunch of the dedicated folks who used to believe like you are now well out of the "likely voter" camp - instead of voting, they're going to stay home.

"Winning cause?" Which one is that? The 8+% unemployment that Obama was going to fix three years ago and get down to 6% by now? The horrible foreign policy failures? The GM bailout? Solyndra?
 
2012-09-12 03:23:37 PM
TFA Headline: "Dick Morris says Obama won't win because his supporters aren't going to vote"

Just how many supporters does Dick Morris have, and why is he so sure they'd vote for Obama if they vote at all?

/parsing it like a republican
 
2012-09-12 03:24:59 PM

cirby: "Winning cause?" Which one is that? The 8+% unemployment that Obama was going to fix three years ago and get down to 6% by now?


Most voters fault the GOP for this.

The horrible foreign policy failures?

Merely your opinion, and it's not a prevailing one.

The GM bailout?

Nobody but teabaggers and Mitt Romney had an issue with that.

Solyndra?

Nobody cares abous solyndra. Nobody.
 
2012-09-12 03:25:12 PM

HotWingConspiracy: So, he explained, the polls have to be weighted up and down -- with each woman downgraded to 7/10 of a response, because there are so many of them, and each man counting for one and 2/10, to make up for their statistical shortfall.

This is a perfectly cromulent harmonization of the statistical quirks.


T-Bone and I think you need to check that math again, Dicky.
3.bp.blogspot.com
 
2012-09-12 03:28:26 PM
This is a perfectly cromulent harmonization of the statistical quirks.

you talk purty.
 
2012-09-12 03:29:16 PM

cirby: Obama voters will mostly get out and vote - but a whole lot of folks aren't Obama voters any more, and he is not going to get the "youth vote" like he did last time. Most of the independents who supported him are edging toward Romney, and a bunch of the dedicated folks who used to believe like you are now well out of the "likely voter" camp - instead of voting, they're going to stay home.


[citation needed]

"Winning cause?" Which one is that? The 8+% unemployment that Obama was going to fix three years ago and get down to 6% by now? The horrible foreign policy failures? The GM bailout? Solyndra?

The president doesn't really have the magical ability to change unemployment. The national economy has a great deal of inertia.

What "horrible foreign policy failures"? Be specific.

The GM bailout seems to have been a success, in that GM is still around and continues to employ hundreds of thousands of people.

Yeah, Solyndra isn't anything to be proud of...but it's really not a deal-breaker.

What does Romney bring to the table that makes him better than Obama? Be specific...Romney certainly hasn't been.
 
2012-09-12 03:33:01 PM

AdolfOliverPanties: He could probably only fit about 7 our of 10 toes into that stroke-victim mouth of his anyway.


He had a stroke?

Damned... toe sucking, hookers, stroke. I've learned so much about Morris in the past few minutes.

I just figured he was gay.

NTTAWWT
 
2012-09-12 03:34:39 PM
Then he demanded that someone bring him Solo and the wookie.
 
2012-09-12 03:34:48 PM
Said what now?

Aw, dammitalltohell.

How's Obama supposed to compete for the lady vote when the GOP have a sweet talker like Morris on their side?

It's not fair I tells ya!

*harumph*

/Those sarcasm courses I've been taking at night are really starting to pay off.
 
2012-09-12 03:35:09 PM
"You have to understand that Barack Obama's strongest demographic are people that aren't gonna be allowed to vote due to our new voter laws," Morris says to a crowd of about sixty supporters at the gathering, hosted by a group called Americans for Prosperity in Centennial Center Park yesterday afternoon.

There, fixed it for you.
 
2012-09-12 03:38:42 PM

rudemix: If the GOP isn't the party for a former Democrat who re-imagined himself after a whore scandal got him run from Washington, there is no party for this guy.


Morris was never really a Democrat. Before Clinton, his main claim to fame was running Jesse Helms' successful senatorial re-election campaign. He was the one responsible for the notorious commercial that featured a pair of white hands crumpling up a job rejection letter while a voice-over told viewers of how a "lesser qualified" affirmative action applicant got the job instead.
 
2012-09-12 03:39:02 PM
HA HA! It's funny because conservatives don't understand mathematics!
 
2012-09-12 03:41:49 PM
That's a nice suffrage you got there, biatches. Be a real shame if something were to happen to it.
 
2012-09-12 03:44:27 PM

NDP2: rudemix: If the GOP isn't the party for a former Democrat who re-imagined himself after a whore scandal got him run from Washington, there is no party for this guy.

Morris was never really a Democrat. Before Clinton, his main claim to fame was running Jesse Helms' successful senatorial re-election campaign. He was the one responsible for the notorious commercial that featured a pair of white hands crumpling up a job rejection letter while a voice-over told viewers of how a "lesser qualified" affirmative action applicant got the job instead.


Wow. I thought the Dixiecrats had all jumped ship by the 1980s.

// shine on, you toe-sucking potato-man
 
2012-09-12 03:46:29 PM

Karac: [static.dickmorris.com image 410x240]
Mitt Romney is going to beat Obama's ass in the presidential election.
Supposing, of course, that Obama doesn't actually bother to show up.


I want to see a poll for a 3 way election featuring Obama, Romney, and a chair.

I think Romney would place third.
 
2012-09-12 03:47:03 PM
Meat0918:
Yes we are going to vote.

We're voting for something, not against someone.
Plus, there is the bandwagon effect of people jumping on a winning cause. I hate the team politics reality we live in, but to make an analogy, who has more fans attend a game; a winning team or a losing team?
Obama voters will get out and vote, especially if it becomes more obvious he's going to win.
Romney voters are going to stay home, especially if it becomes more obvious he's going to lose.


This is ignoring some hard truths. A good portion of the Obama votes will come from working class and lower class Hispanics and Blacks, and their turnout has been historically atrocious. In '08 that turnout increased mainly due to its historical legacy and the fact that many bought the idea that they were voting for something more than a politician. It would be almost impossible to duplicate that turnout within that demographic.
So although the idealists in Oregon will no doubt get out and vote, the depressed and jobless in NJ and PA will not.

By the way, you don't even have to vote. Oregon is in the bag for Obama with or without you.
 
2012-09-12 03:55:13 PM
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2012-09-12 03:58:25 PM

cirby: meat0918:
Yes we are going to vote.

We're voting for something, not against someone.

...except you're not the demographic.

You're the sort that goes online to argue about politics, believes intensely that your guy is the correct person to vote for, et cetera.

That is not - by any stretch - the typical voter. A lot of people don't follow politics like you do, and most of those are going to vote based on the economy - which is not good.


I wonder about that. It's certainly the "conventional wisdom." But if the typical voter thinks simplistically, I think he might actually vote his own personal economy; i.e. if he's at least got some kind of job and is paying his bills, then that outweighs the media drumbeat of unemployment. So are there enough fired-up people out of work ready to march to the polls to pull the lever for Romney (or against Obama)?

Obama voters will mostly get out and vote...

Not according to well-known blowhard, self promoter political wizard Dick Morris!

- but a whole lot of folks aren't Obama voters any more, and he is not going to get the "youth vote" like he did last time. Most of the independents who supported him are edging toward Romney, and a bunch of the dedicated folks who used to believe like you are now well out of the "likely voter" camp - instead of voting, they're going to stay home.

"Winning cause?" Which one is that? The 8+% unemployment that Obama was going to fix three years ago and get down to 6% by now? The horrible foreign policy failures? The GM bailout? Solyndra?

Horrible foreign policy failures? Der? I suppose any stick is good enough to beat a dog with. If you really believe he's such a failure and the GOP has such a superior plan, go for it. (And you should remove the GM bailout from your list since that's the least defensible "failure".) 

You know, people like Morris who make all these guaranteed pronouncements ought to put their money where their mouths are. So what is it Dick? Do you have $1000 to back up your guaranteed Romney win? These pundits ought to called to account and their right/wrong prediction ratio tattooed to their foreheads.
 
2012-09-12 04:03:08 PM
I got a robo-call from Mr. Morris a few months ago flogging some book of his, sat through it and waited to speak to one of the operators happy to take my call. I couldn't resist. As I recall, this wasn't even a "buy our book" call, it was a "make a $100 contribution to our SuperPAC and get the book free" call. The poor women I dealt with asked me to make a contribution and I answered "Naah, I've been out of work in 2007. Say, maybe Dick will give me job! Can he give me a job?"

"I'm sorry, I can't make that kind of promise. Maybe if you send an email."

"That's a great idea! Do you know Dick's email?"

"I'm sorry, I don't have that information. Perhaps if you go to our web site..."

"OK. What's your name again? I'm going to tell Dick you promised me a job."

"... So can we count on you for a contribution?"

"Naah. Say, this book, does it explain how the goddam Jews ruined everything?"

"I don't..."

"Because it's all the Jews' fault, you know. The goddam Christ killers, Hitler was right."

"...Sir, the donation?"

"Naah. I am gonna send an email asking for a job though. What was your name again?"

Click.
 
2012-09-12 04:08:29 PM

Rapmaster2000: Dick's Morrison.


More like Toe-knee Morrison, amirite?
 
2012-09-12 04:09:36 PM

cirby: meat0918:
Yes we are going to vote.

We're voting for something, not against someone.

...except you're not the demographic.

You're the sort that goes online to argue about politics, believes intensely that your guy is the correct person to vote for, et cetera.

That is not - by any stretch - the typical voter. A lot of people don't follow politics like you do, and most of those are going to vote based on the economy - which is not good.

Obama voters will mostly get out and vote - but a whole lot of folks aren't Obama voters any more, and he is not going to get the "youth vote" like he did last time. Most of the independents who supported him are edging toward Romney, and a bunch of the dedicated folks who used to believe like you are now well out of the "likely voter" camp - instead of voting, they're going to stay home.

"Winning cause?" Which one is that? The 8+% unemployment that Obama was going to fix three years ago and get down to 6% by now? The horrible foreign policy failures? The GM bailout? Solyndra?


Winning as in leading in the polls.

And Obama has been pulling away from Romney in the battleground states.

And some of the "youth" vote has aged 4 years and is in a different demographic, one that votes more.

Romney could still win, but Obama still has the advantage.

Romney's massive misstep in blasting Obama over a tweet that is garnering him some severe criticism from the right and the left isn't going to help Romney at all.
 
2012-09-12 04:16:23 PM
I got cc'd on some email that linked to a video of Morris talking about Obama's tax plan.

So many blatant farking lies in the first 45 seconds. Just astonishing.
 
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