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2012-09-12 11:36:13 AM  
As an alum of a Big East basketball school, this saddens me. One of these days we really need to have a split between the basketball and non-basketball schools. Or even better, change top-tier football so it's not tied to every other sport, like the way college hockey is. This whole changing-conference-every-two-years thing is getting ridiculously old.
 
2012-09-12 11:38:54 AM  
Point that nobody cares about but I'll make anyway: ACC Men's Lacrosse is going to be so good that it will be borderline unfair to its members. It started as a 4-team conference with Virginia, Maryland, Duke, and UNC. That's just ridiculous on its own. Then they added Syracuse, which is the biggest add possible. Now Notre Dame. The conference games are going to be amazing, but they'll probably beat each other up and hurt their records.

All that's left is to add Hopkins and Loyola as lacrosse-only members.
 
2012-09-12 12:08:10 PM  
Awesome. So this resolves nothing.
 
2012-09-12 12:18:12 PM  

FriarReb98: One of these days we really need to have a split between the basketball and non-basketball schools. Or even better, change top-tier football so it's not tied to every other sport, like the way college hockey is


The Big Ten is actually starting to align hockey, too. Next season (2013-14), you'll have Wisconsin, Minnesota, Michigan, Michigan State, Ohio State and poor Penn State (first year with a team) in the Big Ten. Oh man. That will be ugly for the Nittany Lions. Should be a good tournament between the top 4 teams though.
 
2012-09-12 01:07:05 PM  

tallguywithglasseson: FriarReb98: One of these days we really need to have a split between the basketball and non-basketball schools. Or even better, change top-tier football so it's not tied to every other sport, like the way college hockey is

The Big Ten is actually starting to align hockey, too. Next season (2013-14), you'll have Wisconsin, Minnesota, Michigan, Michigan State, Ohio State and poor Penn State (first year with a team) in the Big Ten. Oh man. That will be ugly for the Nittany Lions. Should be a good tournament between the top 4 teams though.


Oh I know, and they're pretty much the only conference that could, other than the Ivy and, by fairly big stretches, America East and the MAC. But either way, the point is that football really has less and less to do with the rest of college athletics these days, and should be a completely separate entity
 
2012-09-12 01:25:14 PM  
Everything Notre Dame has done since 1988 has been farking hilarious. I don't know if they started paying athletes outright if they'd start winning again.
 
2012-09-12 01:25:31 PM  

FriarReb98: But either way, the point is that football really has less and less to do with the rest of college athletics these days, and should be a completely separate entity


I guess if the conference has weak football teams, and/or just not much fan interest. Seems that's already happened in the Big East, not sure any of the other 5 AQ football conferences would feel the need to follow suit, though if I were to pick one, it would probably be the ACC.
 
2012-09-12 01:26:09 PM  
So no more games against big 10 teams for football? That deeply saddens me. I liked having an overrated team on our schedule every year.
 
2012-09-12 01:34:08 PM  
So what happens to that big ass TV contract NBC has with them then?
 
2012-09-12 01:35:36 PM  
makes sense for the 5 football games. after all, both notre dame and the acc suck at football so it's good that they can get together and play some pee wee games.

/stupid super conferences ruining everything.
 
2012-09-12 01:39:38 PM  

Mrtraveler01: So what happens to that big ass TV contract NBC has with them then?


It expires in 2015, which is when they will probably join the ACC for football.
 
2012-09-12 01:43:02 PM  
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2012-09-12 01:44:21 PM  

lecavalier: Everything Notre Dame has done since 1988 has been farking hilarious. I don't know if they started paying athletes outright if they'd start winning again.


Yeah, having the hardest schedule in all of football is pretty funny.
 
2012-09-12 01:45:13 PM  
I think the 5 ACC games a year is really just a start, eventually the football program will be all in.

I always thought Notre Dame would join the B1G, but I guess that was just wishful thinking. Now that Missouri is in the SEC, I don't see where we expand. Cincinnati I guess? Maybe raid Iowa State from the Big 12?

Not many teams worthwhile left outside the SEC, ACC, Big 12, B1G and Pac
 
2012-09-12 01:45:34 PM  

FreakinB: Point that nobody cares about but I'll make anyway: ACC Men's Lacrosse is going to be so good that it will be borderline unfair to its members. It started as a 4-team conference with Virginia, Maryland, Duke, and UNC. That's just ridiculous on its own. Then they added Syracuse, which is the biggest add possible. Now Notre Dame. The conference games are going to be amazing, but they'll probably beat each other up and hurt their records.

All that's left is to add Hopkins and Loyola as lacrosse-only members.


Proof that the douchiness of your school is directly proportional to how good they are in lacrosse.

\supports women's lacrosse
\\because I love lesbians.
 
2012-09-12 01:53:04 PM  

AKTurkey: I think the 5 ACC games a year is really just a start, eventually the football program will be all in.

I always thought Notre Dame would join the B1G, but I guess that was just wishful thinking. Now that Missouri is in the SEC, I don't see where we expand. Cincinnati I guess? Maybe raid Iowa State from the Big 12?

Not many teams worthwhile left outside the SEC, ACC, Big 12, B1G and Pac


I hoped they would go B1G too, I mean they are in the middle of it all. I think the big 5 conferences will all have 16 teams soon, and ND wanted to secure a spot in the ACC. I think they will eventually join for football, and keep michigan and southern cal on the schedule.
 
2012-09-12 01:56:31 PM  

FreakinB: Point that nobody cares about but I'll make anyway: ACC Men's Lacrosse is going to be so good that it will be borderline unfair to its members. It started as a 4-team conference with Virginia, Maryland, Duke, and UNC. That's just ridiculous on its own. Then they added Syracuse, which is the biggest add possible. Now Notre Dame. The conference games are going to be amazing, but they'll probably beat each other up and hurt their records.

All that's left is to add Hopkins and Loyola as lacrosse-only members.


Meh, Syracuse needs to do some rebuilding. Right now adding Notre Dame actually brings more talent to the league. But with Syracuse you get the tradition, I'm not going to discount that.

But yeah, the ACC tournament is going to become even more awesome.
 
2012-09-12 01:57:33 PM  

greenbowlpacker: lecavalier: Everything Notre Dame has done since 1988 has been farking hilarious. I don't know if they started paying athletes outright if they'd start winning again.

Yeah, having the hardest schedule in all of football is pretty funny.


Their schedule is no tougher than half of the teams in BCS conferences. I know on the "eye test" that Miami, Boston College, Purdue, and Pittsburgh sound tough, but they are no different than what, say, California has to go through. Kudos to ND for not scheduling a I-AA patsy, but I'll never fault a team for doing so.

That said, why the fark will Southern California never visit South Bend in the winter? Why the hell did Notre Dame agree to this?
 
2012-09-12 02:03:46 PM  

AKTurkey: I think the 5 ACC games a year is really just a start, eventually the football program will be all in.

I always thought Notre Dame would join the B1G, but I guess that was just wishful thinking. Now that Missouri is in the SEC, I don't see where we expand. Cincinnati I guess? Maybe raid Iowa State from the Big 12?

Not many teams worthwhile left outside the SEC, ACC, Big 12, B1G and Pac


The B1G will probably just wait for a conference to implode and then grab two. If everyone goes to 16, one of the conferences has to go.
 
2012-09-12 02:17:16 PM  

lecavalier: greenbowlpacker: lecavalier: Everything Notre Dame has done since 1988 has been farking hilarious. I don't know if they started paying athletes outright if they'd start winning again.

Yeah, having the hardest schedule in all of football is pretty funny.

Their schedule is no tougher than half of the teams in BCS conferences. I know on the "eye test" that Miami, Boston College, Purdue, and Pittsburgh sound tough, but they are no different than what, say, California has to go through. Kudos to ND for not scheduling a I-AA patsy, but I'll never fault a team for doing so.

That said, why the fark will Southern California never visit South Bend in the winter? Why the hell did Notre Dame agree to this?


Most big conference schools schedule 3 games per year vs. Akron or Toledo level teams, giving them the equivalent of 4 byes per year. ND plays 12 teams every year that have a legitimate change of beating them.

I'm not sure why SC never comes during winter, good point. Looks like they go to Stanford or SC for the last game of the season for the next several years.
 
2012-09-12 02:20:07 PM  

lecavalier: greenbowlpacker: lecavalier: Everything Notre Dame has done since 1988 has been farking hilarious. I don't know if they started paying athletes outright if they'd start winning again.

Yeah, having the hardest schedule in all of football is pretty funny.

Their schedule is no tougher than half of the teams in BCS conferences. I know on the "eye test" that Miami, Boston College, Purdue, and Pittsburgh sound tough, but they are no different than what, say, California has to go through. Kudos to ND for not scheduling a I-AA patsy, but I'll never fault a team for doing so.


hell they fail even the eye test. miami is basically high school super senior squad and is shiat. boston college is so bad they lost to miami. purdue is just a place were qbs acls go to die. and pitt? pitt gets blown out at home to 1aa schools. so i would say pitt qualifies for 1aa status this year.
 
2012-09-12 02:21:49 PM  

lunchinlewis: Meh, Syracuse needs to do some rebuilding. Right now adding Notre Dame actually brings more talent to the league. But with Syracuse you get the tradition, I'm not going to discount that.


True, but it never takes them long. They had those down years around '06 or so and then won it all in '08 and '09.
 
2012-09-12 02:24:33 PM  
meh ND won't join a conference for football until and unless its ability to get a lucrative TV deal dries up.
 
2012-09-12 02:28:02 PM  

greenbowlpacker: ND plays 12 teams every year that have a legitimate change of beating them.


that's not quality opponents, that notre dame sucking like they have since the early 90s...

/navy should never have a chance.
 
2012-09-12 02:29:56 PM  

bacongood: AKTurkey: I think the 5 ACC games a year is really just a start, eventually the football program will be all in.

I always thought Notre Dame would join the B1G, but I guess that was just wishful thinking. Now that Missouri is in the SEC, I don't see where we expand. Cincinnati I guess? Maybe raid Iowa State from the Big 12?

Not many teams worthwhile left outside the SEC, ACC, Big 12, B1G and Pac

The B1G will probably just wait for a conference to implode and then grab two. If everyone goes to 16, one of the conferences has to go.


I'm not sure one needs to implode, I mean, SEC already has 14, so only needs 2. ACC will have 14 next year. B1G and Pac have 12. Big 12 has the fewest with 10. So if you raid the Big East, Cincinnati to B1G, Connecticut to ACC, Louisville to Big 12, Rutgers to B1G, Temple to ACC, Boise State and SDSU to Pac, UH and SMU to Big 12.

Then it's 14 B1G, 16 ACC, 14 Pac, 13 Big 12, 14 SEC. Now you just need 9 teams from the rest of country to fill the Gap. B1G can probably get 2 from the MAC if they have to (like Ohio U). PAC and Big 12 can raid the WAC (UNLV) or add BYU. SEC could add UCF and South Florida.
 
2012-09-12 02:31:43 PM  

A Fark Handle: lecavalier: greenbowlpacker: lecavalier: Everything Notre Dame has done since 1988 has been farking hilarious. I don't know if they started paying athletes outright if they'd start winning again.

Yeah, having the hardest schedule in all of football is pretty funny.

Their schedule is no tougher than half of the teams in BCS conferences. I know on the "eye test" that Miami, Boston College, Purdue, and Pittsburgh sound tough, but they are no different than what, say, California has to go through. Kudos to ND for not scheduling a I-AA patsy, but I'll never fault a team for doing so.

hell they fail even the eye test. miami is basically high school super senior squad and is shiat. boston college is so bad they lost to miami. purdue is just a place were qbs acls go to die. and pitt? pitt gets blown out at home to 1aa schools. so i would say pitt qualifies for 1aa status this year.


Yeah, I bet you one of those teams beats ND this year, too. They have too many hard games in a row, and half their team will be injured over the next month.
 
2012-09-12 02:33:26 PM  

A Fark Handle: greenbowlpacker: ND plays 12 teams every year that have a legitimate change of beating them.

that's not quality opponents, that notre dame sucking like they have since the early 90s...

/navy should never have a chance.


Unfortunately, they are 3-3 against Navy over the past 6 years.
 
2012-09-12 02:39:01 PM  

greenbowlpacker: lecavalier: greenbowlpacker: lecavalier: Everything Notre Dame has done since 1988 has been farking hilarious. I don't know if they started paying athletes outright if they'd start winning again.

Yeah, having the hardest schedule in all of football is pretty funny.

Their schedule is no tougher than half of the teams in BCS conferences. I know on the "eye test" that Miami, Boston College, Purdue, and Pittsburgh sound tough, but they are no different than what, say, California has to go through. Kudos to ND for not scheduling a I-AA patsy, but I'll never fault a team for doing so.

That said, why the fark will Southern California never visit South Bend in the winter? Why the hell did Notre Dame agree to this?

Most big conference schools schedule 3 games per year vs. Akron or Toledo level teams, giving them the equivalent of 4 byes per year. ND plays 12 teams every year that have a legitimate change of beating them.

I'm not sure why SC never comes during winter, good point. Looks like they go to Stanford or SC for the last game of the season for the next several years.


Knute's wife wanted to go to Cali in the winter because Indiana sucks balls in November.
 
2012-09-12 02:42:57 PM  

FreakinB: lunchinlewis: Meh, Syracuse needs to do some rebuilding. Right now adding Notre Dame actually brings more talent to the league. But with Syracuse you get the tradition, I'm not going to discount that.

True, but it never takes them long. They had those down years around '06 or so and then won it all in '08 and '09.


It's very exciting for the conference. Boston College should add it too. That just seems like a natural. Then maybe...Clemson? Or some people are saying maybe Pitt will move up to full varsity D-1.

I guess they are worried already about scheduling and logistics. Lacrosse budgets don't really support a lot of long travel dates, yet.
 
2012-09-12 02:50:53 PM  

grimlock1972: meh ND won't join a conference for football until and unless its ability to get a lucrative TV deal dries up.


Other than Sunday night football, NBC might actually collapse. There's no one who would pick up that Notre Dame contract for anything more than pennies on the dollar. Then they'll try to get into a conference (and the ACC hopes it's them). The days of independent programs are coming to an end. BYU is going to cave even faster. I was hoping the Pac 12 would've been smarter about their expansions; Utah and BYU go together, like every other Pac 10 school did (NorCal, SoCal, Arizona, Oregon, Washington). Colorado sucks and they're far away. Guess it makes as much sense as a lot of the other "geographical" conferences do these days.
 
2012-09-12 03:17:50 PM  

lunchinlewis: FreakinB: lunchinlewis: Meh, Syracuse needs to do some rebuilding. Right now adding Notre Dame actually brings more talent to the league. But with Syracuse you get the tradition, I'm not going to discount that.

True, but it never takes them long. They had those down years around '06 or so and then won it all in '08 and '09.

It's very exciting for the conference. Boston College should add it too. That just seems like a natural. Then maybe...Clemson? Or some people are saying maybe Pitt will move up to full varsity D-1.

I guess they are worried already about scheduling and logistics. Lacrosse budgets don't really support a lot of long travel dates, yet.


I'm semi-serious about my "add Hopkins and Loyola as lacrosse-only members" point. They're both in Baltimore so it's not going to add much travel. And they're both championship-level programs, unlike those other schools who would need to start from scratch. If that happened really the only conferences that would matter would be the ACC and the Ivy League (with some exceptions, of course).

But obviously it's much easier said than done.
 
2012-09-12 03:35:18 PM  

Trocadero: grimlock1972: meh ND won't join a conference for football until and unless its ability to get a lucrative TV deal dries up.

Other than Sunday night football, NBC might actually collapse. There's no one who would pick up that Notre Dame contract for anything more than pennies on the dollar. Then they'll try to get into a conference (and the ACC hopes it's them). The days of independent programs are coming to an end. BYU is going to cave even faster. I was hoping the Pac 12 would've been smarter about their expansions; Utah and BYU go together, like every other Pac 10 school did (NorCal, SoCal, Arizona, Oregon, Washington). Colorado sucks and they're far away. Guess it makes as much sense as a lot of the other "geographical" conferences do these days.


BYU would have done the pac -10 or 12 if the conference would guarantee that they wouldn't play on certain days in bball and other sports. probably sunday...the conference said, we can't guarantee it because of the tv contract.
 
2012-09-12 03:37:18 PM  

FreakinB: I'm semi-serious about my "add Hopkins and Loyola as lacrosse-only members" point. They're both in Baltimore so it's not going to add much travel. And they're both championship-level programs, unlike those other schools who would need to start from scratch. If that happened really the only conferences that would matter would be the ACC and the Ivy League (with some exceptions, of course).


That may be in the cards somewhere in the far future. I just don't see it now. Especially with Hopkins, who is like the Notre Dame Football of lacrosse, being traditionally independent and happy to stay that way.

I'd rather see new full D-1 programs start up than more consolidation by the top conferences. There are a lot more kids that could play than there are scholarships available.
 
2012-09-12 03:51:57 PM  

lunchinlewis: I'd rather see new full D-1 programs start up than more consolidation by the top conferences. There are a lot more kids that could play than there are scholarships available


Good point.
 
2012-09-12 04:03:10 PM  
I'd also add that I wish U Chicago would start a division I football program. They were an original member of the Big 10, have name recognition, and Stanford, Northwestern, Berkeley, and Vanderbilt have shown you can be a sports school and retain your academic prowess. But, I'm not sure Illinois could handle a third team in the B1G. On the other hand, if Notre Dame starts playing ACC teams on the east coast all the time and stops playing Purdue, Michigan, and Michigan State, people in the midwest/Chicago will start to care less about them and maybe their would be room for a third Illinois team.
 
2012-09-12 04:07:52 PM  

mitchcumstein1: Awesome. So this resolves nothing.


Well, it means no Big XII expansion. Notre Dame, FSu and Clemson are off the table and no other school is worth Texas' time.
 
2012-09-12 04:44:41 PM  

Mentat: mitchcumstein1: Awesome. So this resolves nothing.

Well, it means no Big XII expansion. Notre Dame, FSu and Clemson are off the table and no other school is worth Texas' time.


It means no coastal Big 12 expansion, but BYU and (given the crumbling Big East) Louisville or Cincinnati make as much sense as West Virginia.
 
2012-09-12 04:50:37 PM  

greenbowlpacker: Mrtraveler01: So what happens to that big ass TV contract NBC has with them then?

It expires in 2015, which is when they will probably join the ACC for football.


ESPN? Everything else did.
 
2012-09-12 04:53:59 PM  

Mentat: mitchcumstein1: Awesome. So this resolves nothing.

Well, it means no Big XII expansion. Notre Dame, FSu and Clemson are off the table and no other school is worth Texas' time.


I still think Louisville and Cincinnati are viable options.

I would also say that if the Big 10 and Pac 12 stay where they are, and it seems like they will for the time being, no big changes need to made right now.
 
2012-09-12 04:58:28 PM  

greenbowlpacker: A Fark Handle: greenbowlpacker: ND plays 12 teams every year that have a legitimate change of beating them.

that's not quality opponents, that notre dame sucking like they have since the early 90s...

/navy should never have a chance.

Unfortunately, they are 3-3 against Navy over the past 6 years.


Losing to teams like Navy doesn't mean that they play a tough schedule, it just means that they suck.
 
2012-09-12 05:20:10 PM  
So, Notre Dame will compete in non-football sports? I thought that was Duke's job.
 
2012-09-12 05:24:46 PM  

AKTurkey: I'm not sure one needs to implode, I mean, SEC already has 14, so only needs 2. ACC will have 14 next year. B1G and Pac have 12. Big 12 has the fewest with 10. So if you raid the Big East, Cincinnati to B1G, Connecticut to ACC, Louisville to Big 12, Rutgers to B1G, Temple to ACC, Boise State and SDSU to Pac, UH and SMU to Big 12.

Then it's 14 B1G, 16 ACC, 14 Pac, 13 Big 12, 14 SEC. Now you just need 9 teams from the rest of country to fill the Gap. B1G can probably get 2 from the MAC if they have to (like Ohio U). PAC and Big 12 can raid the WAC (UNLV) or add BYU. SEC could add UCF and South Florida.



No way, under any circumstances does the B1G add any of those schools (other than Rutgers)- I would think we sweet talk Mizzou, letting them know Iowa, Neb, Ill, NW, Minn, Purdue and IU are much closer geographically than pretty much the entire SEC (minus Arkansas) - The other 3 are, as mentioned, Rutgers and then it gets pretty dicey - Iowa State possibly and then I would guess Kansas. All that said, I don't think the B1G does anything now and sits at 12.
 
2012-09-12 05:45:23 PM  

greenbowlpacker: Mrtraveler01: So what happens to that big ass TV contract NBC has with them then?

It expires in 2015, which is when they will probably join the ACC for football.


That is what the ACC is hoping. They should have had the balls to tell them all sports or none. ND is totally going to make a presence in Florida for the sole purpose of recruiting for football.
 
2012-09-12 07:01:35 PM  
And the rest of the country collectively shrugged its shoulders.
 
2012-09-12 07:11:08 PM  

p the boiler: AKTurkey: I'm not sure one needs to implode, I mean, SEC already has 14, so only needs 2. ACC will have 14 next year. B1G and Pac have 12. Big 12 has the fewest with 10. So if you raid the Big East, Cincinnati to B1G, Connecticut to ACC, Louisville to Big 12, Rutgers to B1G, Temple to ACC, Boise State and SDSU to Pac, UH and SMU to Big 12.

Then it's 14 B1G, 16 ACC, 14 Pac, 13 Big 12, 14 SEC. Now you just need 9 teams from the rest of country to fill the Gap. B1G can probably get 2 from the MAC if they have to (like Ohio U). PAC and Big 12 can raid the WAC (UNLV) or add BYU. SEC could add UCF and South Florida.


No way, under any circumstances does the B1G add any of those schools (other than Rutgers)- I would think we sweet talk Mizzou, letting them know Iowa, Neb, Ill, NW, Minn, Purdue and IU are much closer geographically than pretty much the entire SEC (minus Arkansas) - The other 3 are, as mentioned, Rutgers and then it gets pretty dicey - Iowa State possibly and then I would guess Kansas. All that said, I don't think the B1G does anything now and sits at 12.


I'd love to have Missouri, but delaney spurned them pretty well before they joined the SEC. The Sec is filled with a lot of crap schools, but they have good football programs. With the way the B1G has been playing, the SEC is going to get most of the attention over the next decade. I really doubt after basically begging delaney to take them, mizzou should leave the sec for the B1G. I think we'd have better luck with the Big 12 teams.
 
2012-09-12 08:03:17 PM  

p the boiler: No way, under any circumstances does the B1G add any of those schools (other than Rutgers)- I would think we sweet talk Mizzou, letting them know Iowa, Neb, Ill, NW, Minn, Purdue and IU are much closer geographically than pretty much the entire SEC (minus Arkansas) - The other 3 are, as mentioned, Rutgers and then it gets pretty dicey - Iowa State possibly and then I would guess Kansas. All that said, I don't think the B1G does anything now and sits at 12.


No amount of sweet talk will get Mizzou into the Big Ten. The Big Ten rejected Mizzou three times in 20 years and the message is clear. Most Mizzou fans are so in love with the SEC right now that there would be riots over any more talk of moving.
 
2012-09-12 08:10:59 PM  

The Homer Tax: greenbowlpacker: A Fark Handle: greenbowlpacker: ND plays 12 teams every year that have a legitimate change of beating them.

that's not quality opponents, that notre dame sucking like they have since the early 90s...

/navy should never have a chance.

Unfortunately, they are 3-3 against Navy over the past 6 years.

Losing to teams like Navy doesn't mean that they play a tough schedule, it just means that they suck.


To put it in perspective for you, they are 51-3 over the past 54 years. Who is your team? I bet they don't play on both coasts every year, and play a team like Navy that has a completely different style than any other team they play.
 
2012-09-12 08:42:12 PM  

greenbowlpacker: To put it in perspective for you, they are 51-3 over the past 54 years. Who is your team? I bet they don't play on both coasts every year, and play a team like Navy that has a completely different style than any other team they play.


I'm a Michigan alum, we just beat ND every year.

/ND is one of two programs to post a losing record to RR coached Michigan teams
//yes they suck that bad
 
2012-09-12 10:44:47 PM  

lecavalier: greenbowlpacker: lecavalier: Everything Notre Dame has done since 1988 has been farking hilarious. I don't know if they started paying athletes outright if they'd start winning again.

Yeah, having the hardest schedule in all of football is pretty funny.

Their schedule is no tougher than half of the teams in BCS conferences. I know on the "eye test" that Miami, Boston College, Purdue, and Pittsburgh sound tough, but they are no different than what, say, California has to go through. Kudos to ND for not scheduling a I-AA patsy, but I'll never fault a team for doing so.

That said, why the fark will Southern California never visit South Bend in the winter? Why the hell did Notre Dame agree to this?


They don't schedule down because teams are willing to schedule them as a prestige game. Nobody was inviting Boise State or BYU because they have little history but I would bet any AD would quickly add a home and home with Notre Dame because it will sell out.
 
2012-09-13 01:06:58 AM  
Do not understand the move...since football is excluded, there is no gain for the ACC

The ACC needed something before the Big XII grabs Florida State and possibly Clemson.

There are some quite credible reports that the Big East will end up with a bigger TV deal than the ACCs...which would mean Florida St will leave the ACC first chance they get. Try football recruiting when you have to explain why USF and UCF get more TV money than you do...

The ACC blew it when they had a chance at West Virginia, but passed on them. Football rules the roost of these conferences, and West Virginia brings a hell of a lot more football $$ than Pitt and Syracuse...the Big XII realized that
 
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