MTV is awesome - Pot smoking 20-somethings are in charge, give less than a fark about money and want to do something cool they'd never seen before.

MTV goes to hell - When corporate is wearing suits and more worried about profits and keeping shareholders happy.


Money killed MTV, and it's farking dead man, bury it and move on.

PALADIA - everything MTV could have been.

I wish they had modeled their post-music video programming more on Liquid Television/Aeon Flux and less on The Real World.

When 120 Minutes ended is when I stopped watching. Plus I farking hated Kennedy.

ac982000: Solution is bring back the M in MTV. Otherwise just go ahead and rename the thing RTV, be done with it and accept that you destroyed a great thing.

Except that is not really a solution at all. Back in the 80's MTV could basically get videos for free from the music companies. Then those companies realized they were basically providing all of MTVs content and not getting any money out of it, so they started charging royalties if MTV wanted to show a video. On top of that if you are a 16 year old kid, who seems to be MTV's target market, why would you sit and watch an hour of pre-programmed music videos (most of them you probably won't like) when you can just turn on your computer (or more likely your smart phone) and have instant access to any video for any song you could possibly think of. How the hell could MTV possibly compete with that?

I'm thinking adding back some music videos would be a good start. And instead of being a continuous loop of popular stuff, they could have shows that are curated collections. A few that have the same host all the time showing things he wants you to see, and some that have different hosts all the time.

And they might do well to instead of running with the Dazed and Confused theory about High School girls where "I get older and they stay the same age.", still trying to appeal to the same age bracket even as they are getting older and more out of touch, to go ahead and move along with their viewers. They could start now, growing with the folks that had been watching a year or two ago and staying up with what they want now. Or even jumping to cater to the viewers that were their core audience at their peak popularity. Giving folks that were MTV fans in the 80's or 90's what they really want that other networks aren't providing. Folks our age are really enjoying some of the well-written high budget scripted shows out there on premium networks these days like Game of Thrones, Boardwalk Empire, Madmen, Breaking Bad, Walking Dead,etc. They might try their hand at making some of those kinds of programs. Sure, they couldn't afford to fill a whole network that way right away, but between saving money by running relatively cheap music video shows, then adding in the expensive scripted shows gradually, it could be done.

If they purge all the reality TV bullshiat from the channel then I'd watch it again.

I blame the early shows like Remote Control. It was fun to have a little variety, but it went south pretty fast after Liquid Television.

Sirius/XM. 80s on 8.

I don't think MTV ever recovered from that Edward Furlong diss in American History X. Freaking Zionists trying to make it cool to be black. fark you too Tabitha Soren!

Hoboclown: I know it's always a running gag that MTV doesn't air videos anymore, but why should they? I can look up any music video that exists and watch it instantly on my phone, the idea of sitting around all afternoon waiting for them to air something specific hasn't been realistic in over a decade.

And that's why MTV is essentially dead as a music channel. There are a plethora of online services that stream music or offer music videos. Almost every kid I know over the age of 10 has a PC, tablet or smartphone. Why wait for MTV to rotate through their queue of videos when you can just hit YouTube and see it immediately?

Oh, and kids don't care as much about music anymore. They're busy playing video games or watching movies.

kab: Palladia is pretty much exactly what MTV should have ever been to begin with, and even their programming is rather limited.

This. Palladia is awesome. Sure, I can probably find the same content online somewhere, but, I don't have a 72" monitor with surround sound hooked up to a computer. Plus, it gets me to watch/listen to stuff I otherwise wouldn't if given a choice.

If MTV brings back decent shows like "Dead at 21" i'd think about watching it again. Of course might be difficult since we just cancelled cable (Sick of all of the crap on TV and of Time Warner's mafia pricing schemes).

They started watching a show that actually features new music:

CygnusDarius: Wellon Dowd: Olympus Mons: It was cool when it was about music....how many years ago was that though?

It has always been about the chicks.

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Nice, but, I like my women with a little metal in 'em...


/fark MTV

Dude, I hear ya on that. I was always a fan of the singer-songwriter type myself:



Tell me you don't want to party with that chick - or how about something more country:



And just to liven things up a bit, I'm sure an evening with this woman would leave you scarred for life:

Maybe they should keep airing good, quality programming instead of the trash they usually have on?
Seriously, where's the new season?

The awards show started about an hour earlier than it usually does to avoid conflicting with President Barack Obama's speech at the Democratic National Convention.

This is kind of a lie though. They programmed - some day deliberately - the VMA on the same night as Obama's speech, when any other night would have avoided it. There's also the small matter of Viacom being solidly in bed with Republicans at the executive level. And having cancelled various other things MTV used to be good at, like Rock The Vote..

So they alienate the politically minded audience member, then they also alienate the non political audience member, put it all together and you have an aging dying network out of touch with its audience.

But it'll always have Jersey Shore to look back on.

WhiskeyBender: We grew up and discovered the nets.

pretty much this. everything MTV was good at is easily doable better now without it.

Which must suck if you're them, but somehow after watching them devolve over the last 10 yrs, I really have zero eff's to give.