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(Fox News)   After such an epic fail on green energy jobs by Obama, Department of Defense is ordered to purchase thousands of electric cars on taxpayers' dime. Re-Volt-ing   (foxnews.com) divider line 175
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2012-09-12 08:52:26 AM
y'know, I did the math when I was looking at these, and I just don't drive enough for the savings on gas to make up for the higher sticker price.
Government agencies will probably use their cars a lot more often than I do though.
 
2012-09-12 08:56:00 AM
The Department of Defense is planning to purchase 1,500 electric cars

So what does that equal, almost one ICBM that we'll never fire?
 
2012-09-12 08:57:14 AM
Buffalo Obumper Goes About His Daily Business, Eats Some Breakfast, Attends Meetings,Talks On The Phone With People About The Thing In Libya And Netenyahu. Most Corrupt Administration Ever.
 
2012-09-12 08:58:36 AM
stupid Obama, why can't these employees just fly around on magic carpets or just will themselves around to jobsites.
 
2012-09-12 09:03:00 AM

hillbillypharmacist: Buffalo Obumper Goes About His Daily Business, Eats Some Breakfast, Attends Meetings,Talks On The Phone With People About The Thing In Libya And Netenyahu. Most Corrupt Administration Ever.


After such an Epic Fail on Eating Some Breakfast, schools around the country are ORDERED to provide lunch to children of low-income households.
 
2012-09-12 09:04:17 AM

serial_crusher: y'know, I did the math when I was looking at these, and I just don't drive enough for the savings on gas to make up for the higher sticker price.
Government agencies will probably use their cars a lot more often than I do though.


GM basically said you'd never recoup the cost on a volt, it's more like the first prius, by purchasing / driving you're making a statement more than saving yourself some cash.
 
2012-09-12 09:10:02 AM

Jackson Herring: After such an Epic Fail on Eating Some Breakfast, schools around the country are ORDERED to provide lunch to children of low-income households.


After Such An Epic Failure By Obaba To Leave The White House And Going Back Home To ChicagO Using Our Interstate System, DOT Ordered To Allow Non Job Creators To Travel Without Proof Of Productivity
 
2012-09-12 09:10:34 AM
DoD buys 1500 Volts in an effort to go more green and FOX has conniption fits five minutes later?

Is that what this is?

*sigh*

My shocked face...

/It's like watching the swallows return to Capistrano only without the grace and natural beauty thing.
 
2012-09-12 09:12:36 AM
Supporting cleaner energy is quite common for local governments as well. In IA government cars are Flex Fueled (they can run on E85). In Phoenix, AZ back in the day the local bus shuttle system ran on compressed natural gas to reduce/eliminate particulates. I've seen many city buses retrofitted to run on biodiesel and even vegetable oil. If you're going to buy fleet vehicles anyway, it makes sense to make them run on domestically produced energy rather than fungible petroleum. That way the government investments go back into the local energy community. Why the Submitter hates American energy independence, I don't know.
 
2012-09-12 09:14:09 AM
Well DUH!
Everything the Pentagon buys is paid for by taxpayers.
 
2012-09-12 09:16:45 AM

quatchi: DoD buys 1500 Volts in an effort to go more green and FOX has conniption fits five minutes later?


The Headline: Fartbongo Al-Chicago takes dump.

The article: FOX News complaining about the smell.

Analysis from the Panel: Charles Krauthammer and Brit Hume recall wistfully for the days Bush's anus smelled like roses as they tongue-punched his farthole.
 
2012-09-12 09:24:02 AM
Of all the things in the DOD budget, this is what the conservatives decide to bunch their panties over?
 
2012-09-12 09:26:43 AM

ginandbacon: Of all the things in the DOD budget, this is what the conservatives decide to bunch their panties over?


Of course.
 
2012-09-12 09:30:00 AM
After seeing how government workers abuse the perks of having a free car and free gas, I suspect that there will be NO savings as these people will use the "free" car as their personal vehicle and it will be just another botched government plan that will do nothing more than waste tax payer money.
 
2012-09-12 09:33:07 AM
We will drag you kicking and screaming into the future and in the end you will thank us for it.
 
2012-09-12 09:36:48 AM

Mugato: So what does that equal, almost one ICBM that we'll never fire?


Well in that case...
 
2012-09-12 09:37:21 AM

jehovahs witness protection: After seeing how government workers abuse the perks of having a free car and free gas, I suspect that there will be NO savings as these people will use the "free" car as their personal vehicle and it will be just another botched government plan that will do nothing more than waste tax payer money.


Which is why they've been consistent in their outrage about all those "free" vehicles used over the last couple decades?
 
2012-09-12 09:38:22 AM
Don't most government agencies and a number of large corporations buy fleets of cars at a time? Going electric makes a hell of a lot of sense. Why shouldn't the government ease up on oil usage where it can?
 
2012-09-12 09:39:11 AM
If we ever go to war against the Japanese or Germans, will our electric cars defeat theirs? Or the nutjobs could just admit this will be used to move paper-pushing bureaucrats around DC.


*It's OK to be a lazy Government worker, so long as you wear a uniform.
 
2012-09-12 09:54:49 AM

Dusk-You-n-Me: We will drag you kicking and screaming into the future and in the end you will thank us take credit for it and rewrite history to suggest it was your idea all along.


FTFU
 
2012-09-12 09:55:45 AM

Lumpmoose: Don't most government agencies and a number of large corporations buy fleets of cars at a time?


Sounds a massive purchase would be an opportunity to help lower the barriers to entry into the market for a new product.
 
2012-09-12 10:03:05 AM
yet no one complains when a $400 million dollar weapons platform experiment blows up in 10 seconds. Gotta love right wing priorities.
 
2012-09-12 10:03:19 AM
I need a Chevy Volt with 50 Caliber Machine Gun swivel mount on top photoshopped NOW!
 
vpb [TotalFark]
2012-09-12 10:11:27 AM
So, buying non-electric cars instead would be good how?

And what was the "epic fail" for those of us in the reality based community? Even Faux news doesn't mention that.
 
2012-09-12 10:11:49 AM
And DoD purchased a bunch of natural gas burners in the 90's. What's the problem? These vehicles are used to get from one end of the base to the other, drive around the flight-line, haul people on a guided tour, commander vehicle. A Volt is perfect for those kinds of duties. And if they install a relatively cheap solar charge arrays around company CQs (and such) they'll probably actually save money - the military will use a "drive-around" vehicle until it falls apart.
 
2012-09-12 10:12:20 AM
Department of Defense buys things on the taxpayers dime?!

YOU MEAN TO TELL ME THAT N0BAMA USES PUBLIC MONEY TO BUY THINGS?!!?
 
2012-09-12 10:17:43 AM

vpb: So, buying non-electric cars instead would be good how?


It would increase American reliance on foreign which would be a good thing from the Republican POV because they are all Sekrit Saudis!

/Ow!
//Trying to think like a rightie makes my brain throb most painfully. 
 
2012-09-12 10:23:48 AM
Department of Defense employees should all be driving around in Hummers. Worst. President. Ever.
 
2012-09-12 10:24:48 AM
or at least Mazda Miatas.
 
2012-09-12 10:26:06 AM
The only responsibility of the DoD should be to stoke our nation's tire fires, just because it pisses off the libs.
 
2012-09-12 10:26:22 AM

UberDave: And DoD purchased a bunch of natural gas burners in the 90's. What's the problem? These vehicles are used to get from one end of the base to the other, drive around the flight-line, haul people on a guided tour, commander vehicle. A Volt is perfect for those kinds of duties. And if they install a relatively cheap solar charge arrays around company CQs (and such) they'll probably actually save money - the military will use a "drive-around" vehicle until it falls apart.


True, dat. When I was an SP I drove Trucks and Jeeps from the 1960s. We had a good mechanic, and drove them 24/7/365. Each shift checked the oil and tire pressure, and other fluids. We almost never exceeded the posted speed limits, and babied them. My fave was a 6 pack sull length Pick up that had a huge rear bench seat. V-8, and you could put a 4 man fire team in it with lots for room for gear and ammo in the back.

Electric cars will get driven until they fall apart and it is a good way to see if they hold up over time. They will get driven almost constantly and should receive mimimal abuse. It's not like they let teenagers drive them.
 
2012-09-12 10:37:10 AM

xsive: GM basically said you'd never recoup the cost on a volt, it's more like the first prius, by purchasing / driving you're making a statement more than saving yourself some cash.


That statement being, "I'm using less oil than other drivers."

But sure, the only important thing to consider is how much it costs to run it.
 
2012-09-12 10:57:32 AM
I bet the taxpayers pay for a lawncare company to mow the lawn at the Pentagon too.
 
2012-09-12 11:03:18 AM

sweetmelissa31: or at least Mazda Miatas.


I'm wagging my finger at you.
 
2012-09-12 11:22:24 AM
It's always amusing when people cry about their precious tax dollars and the trivial things the gov't spends "their" money on, given all the truly wasteful gov't spending on bullshiat and the fact that the whole thing is abstract anyway given the size of the debt. You would think people literally get bills in the mail labeled "birth control for that girl's slutty friend" or "electric cars for the DoD.
 
2012-09-12 11:24:39 AM

Mugato: It's always amusing when people cry about their precious tax dollars and the trivial things the gov't spends "their" money on, given all the truly wasteful gov't spending on bullshiat and the fact that the whole thing is abstract anyway given the size of the debt. You would think people literally get bills in the mail labeled "birth control for that girl's slutty friend" or "electric cars for the DoD.


Funding one ridiculous thing would be bad, but funding a billion ridiculous things is OK?
 
2012-09-12 11:27:42 AM
So, what I'm getting here, that in the event of a strategic attack on our oil supply, we shouldn't have a plan to transport our Defense Department?
 
2012-09-12 11:28:38 AM

serial_crusher: Mugato: It's always amusing when people cry about their precious tax dollars and the trivial things the gov't spends "their" money on, given all the truly wasteful gov't spending on bullshiat and the fact that the whole thing is abstract anyway given the size of the debt. You would think people literally get bills in the mail labeled "birth control for that girl's slutty friend" or "electric cars for the DoD.

Funding one ridiculous thing would be bad, but funding a billion ridiculous things is OK?


I'm saying people should have priorities if they're going to biatch about their tax dollars. This isn't even the worst thing the DoD spends money on, much less the entire government.
 
2012-09-12 11:39:54 AM

Mugato: serial_crusher: Mugato: It's always amusing when people cry about their precious tax dollars and the trivial things the gov't spends "their" money on, given all the truly wasteful gov't spending on bullshiat and the fact that the whole thing is abstract anyway given the size of the debt. You would think people literally get bills in the mail labeled "birth control for that girl's slutty friend" or "electric cars for the DoD.

Funding one ridiculous thing would be bad, but funding a billion ridiculous things is OK?

I'm saying people should have priorities if they're going to biatch about their tax dollars. This isn't even the worst thing the DoD spends money on, much less the entire government.


If the cars are fully used off the generator, it means there is less demand for gasoline at that base, reducing the amount of supply needed there. Since airlifting gasoline is hideously expensive, this could be quite a bit cheaper.
 
2012-09-12 12:22:19 PM
I'm okay with this.
 
2012-09-12 12:23:17 PM
meh, i'd rather see the military take the volt engine out of the car and put it in one of these bad boys
 
2012-09-12 12:24:00 PM

sweetmelissa31: Department of Defense employees should all be driving around in Hummers. Worst. President. Ever.


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2012-09-12 12:24:17 PM

vernonFL: I bet the taxpayers pay for a lawncare company to mow the lawn at the Pentagon too.


Do-nothing president for you...
 
2012-09-12 12:26:24 PM
It ain't easy being green....
rickmanelius.com
 
2012-09-12 12:26:31 PM
So, the pentagon orders a bunch of cars that are good for the environment...from an American company... and this is a bad thing.

Could someone tell me what part is actually outrage-inducing? Maybe I missed a critical detail in there.
 
2012-09-12 12:26:34 PM
Coal-powered cars. Yay!
 
2012-09-12 12:26:45 PM
Oh so now we care about excessive DoD spending? Tomorrow do we go back to "unlimited spending or you hate the troops"?
 
2012-09-12 12:26:55 PM

Mugato: The Department of Defense is planning to purchase 1,500 electric cars

So what does that equal, almost one ICBM that we'll never fire?


If shooting sparks out of our bureacrats' asses was somehow a favorable outcome for the will of the people, it certainly would be more beneficial than the production and use of an ICBM.

Unless you're Romney (praise his retarded name).
 
2012-09-12 12:27:44 PM
Anyone have a problem with this?
*Looks around thread*
Nope, didn't think so... back to your outrage factory, subby, you need a new product, no one is buying this one.
 
2012-09-12 12:27:53 PM

Infernalist: Could someone tell me what part is actually outrage-inducing?


The green part. That's enough for the GOP.
 
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